I live in Russia, we have prices R5 2600 costs $ 37 more than the i3 8100. I think it is better to pay extra and get a more productive Ryzen. Sorry, I don't speak English very good.
It's $118 and almost matches the performance of a $200 cpu so I'd say it's worth the buy. And before you mention it z370 boards can go for as little as $100 nowadays.
Well, it depends, where you live. In my country the cost difference is less than $20. So I really wouldn't buy an i3-8100, but that's just my opinion. P. S. Intel stocks are out, many shops in my country have stopped selling them so Core i3-8100 is impossible to buy.
AirsoftAddicted Agreed. Look at the CPU usage. The i3 is essentially pegged out the whole time and the Ryzen barely ever breaks 50%. Very similar performance with lots of CPU headroom left over--Ryzen all day long.
Witcher 3 can use up to 32 cores. Basically as much you throw at it - as much it will use. Looks same with Kingdom Come. Since both - AMD and Ryzen can run games in decent FPS, I think taking the CPU with more cores is simply smarter, especially taking in to account motherboard prices, temperatures and future support of platform... AMD is really smart choice right now. I own 7700k with a decent motherboard... and if I can be honest, I feel how it's lacking with just those 4 cores :(
I know this video is around 5 months old but at the end of october 2018 prices for both cpus hover around 170-180€ in europe. The times of "4c/4t is all you need for gaming" are definetly over. Even my 4690k@4.7GHz paired with a rx480 nitro+ 8gb (1060 6gb level of gaming performance) occasionally bottlenecks in RotTR Geothermal Valley, don't even mention DRM crippled titles like AC:Origins. 4c/8t, better 6c/6t is the new entry level standard in gaming.
came from a 4690k@4.4ghz to a 2600x with a 1060 feels like a sidegrade but i did notice that my games dont ever stutter like they use to because my cpu often reached 100%
Core i3 8100 or 9100f both cost around $110 to $170 in some countries such as the U.S. Amd ryzen 5 2600 costs around $20 more than the i3, so the ryzen 5 2600 is worth buying it now with 6 cores and 12 threads compared to the i3
well its double the cpu usage at half the price of the 2600(where i live anyway), so i think its fair, and since im poor and i don't do anything on a pc except gaming and youtube i would buy the i3 8100. but no hate here i understand your point and i think you're right, so yes lol... :D
Ryzen will get obsolete never achieving 90% usage in gaming, games just don't use all those threads. Intel i5 is more future proof because their single core performance can handle stronger GPUs., that matters more than threads.
David Duarte i can play at decent frames above 70 on some games with the FX6300 stock and 1060, on 1080p of course no all settings on ultra or high. 7 years old cpu.
i3-8100 has better single thread performance which is why it showed better FPS in some games. And by the way, if your CPU doesn't show high load it doesn't mean that it's not bottlenecking your GPU. The video should show the highest core load instead of the whole CPU load, which would really show when the CPU is bottlenecking (whenever this indicator reaches 100%). Also, people in the comments are right saying that Ryzen requires high frequency RAM for any good performance. But the additional cores of Ryzen could still help a lot in large scale games like Battlefield or World of Warcraft.
@danskebankken So you test CPU benchmarks on a substandard definition? You gotta' explain that one. I don't know if you're just trolling me but when testing either CPU, RAM, or Vid Cards, you always max out the graphics. If he showed this in 1080p then I would say it was a fair assessment lmao
@danskebankken I never said it didn't. I don't even know if that's true really. I just wanted to know why he didn't test in 1080p. Is that an irrational question? Scattervolt did a test in 1080p for a cpu. I guess it's my personal preference. Perhaps you're supposed to do CPU benchmarks in 720p. I will always go with the benchmarks in 1080p though.
The 8100 sucks simply because it has 4 cores, 4 threads and around the same price of a CPU with 2 more cores, 8 more threads, and has lower chances of bottlenecking mid to high end GPUs (that CPU being the Ryzen 2600). Also, notice how the 8100 has a usage of 80-90% while the 2600 only at about 20-40%.
By steam statistics, main resolution for gamers is 1080p, with that information CPU -s test should be tested at that resolution. Some will say that this is a CPU test, that true, with that opinions why are GPU-s tested at 1080p, shouldn t be "normal" to test it only on 4k. 1080p is strong enough resolution for good CPU stress testing. If this was tested on 480p every Intel CPU-s would be at 100% usage and therefor we would see constant bottleneck and stuttering. I wouldn t be suprised that Intel stand behind this channel tests, something like "please test it at lower resolution so that our CPU-s looks much better"
The i3 8100 has got to be the best value-for-money CPU you can buy in 2018. The 2600 is certainly faster, but it's far more expensive. ($200 vs $120 as of the time of this writing) If you want 144 frames per second, the 2600 is a reasonable choice, but if you're building your first gaming PC and you just want a stable 60 frames per second, I can't think of a better choice than the 8100. That said, AMD's 2200G APU is a fantastic choice for gamers building an ultra budget system.
Hardly a reasonable choice for 144hz either. For 180$ you have the faster 8400, and at the same 200$ the 2600 costs you have an i5 8500 to match whatever OC you can get out of 2600, that shoots up in power usage once OCed. I see no reason why'd upgrade to Ryzen outside maybe being a productivity buff, and even then, only on occasion, as i just watched hardwarecanucks have to switch from ryzen to intel since ryzen is poop at adobe.
Update: The Ryzen 5 2600 is now being sold on both Amazon and Newegg for just $170, while the i3 8100 is still selling for $120 and the i5 8400 is either out of stock or selling at $200. At this point, I'm changing my stance. If I were building a gaming system today, the 2600 is the only CPU I would consider. It's just way too good to ignore at that price.
I am upgrading...from i3 6100+Z170 and surprise i can have 8100+Z370 or 2600+X370 at the same price dude.... 4c/4t vs 6c/12t really dude... i go for amd
B450 in the case you are looking for a solid but not expensive PC, there are several options out there, but i, as a gamer,i recomend you to wait for the new ryzen 3000 series, they will be avilable soon (1 month), and, based on the data given by AMD in the Computex, the performance will be something interesting to look at, not talking about it´s next gen... have a good day.
@@Marko-xn4kq Indeed, both 3600 and 3600X between $200 and $250, it is, certanily, more expensive than a 2600 currently specially now with all the discounts on second gen Ryzen, but is worth it to sacrifice ram or fans in the pc case or storage, parts that you could buy later, for having a third gen Ryzen. If you want some help with your gamer pc, send me a message.
Simple as saying if you are only interested in gaming and want the best performance then go for Intel, but if you are interested in streaming, rendering, multitasking and also gaming then go for ryzen, even though you will obviously not get the same performance as Intel for gaming. At the end depends on what the user needs.
last year, Intel 4c/4t CPUs were winning by large difference vs Ryzen. this year, Intel 4c/4t CPUs are dead. that sweet 100% usage... i5's 6c/6t are next...
i dont understand people who builds top of the line gaming pc's and skimps on i5 instead of i7, i had 4670k it choked on rise of the tomb rider with my gtx 1070, now i have 4790k and every game is smooth as butter because of 8 threads.
Not even close to "dead", 99% of games still use 1-4 threads/cores and that's why ryzen's threads can't be utilized, which is bad. 100€ cpu vs 200€ cpu and similar FPS doesn't look that convincing to me either. :/
@@razmuzen1090 that's bullshit. Like every Tripple a title uses at least 6 cores. Most titles use 8. That's why the 8700k has more power in games than the 8600k even when they have the same clock speed. That's the the 8700 non k with 4.6ghz is as powerful in games as the i5 8600k 5ghz overclocked. Cuz most games already use 8 cores/threads
I3 = 144 dls. R5=152 dls I3 4c 4t R5 6c 12t R5 only pulls about 20-30 two with 3 times more threads and i3 can better move 1080 in addition to the generational difference, that i3 is a beast
A CPU is the electronic circuitry within a computer that carries out the instructions of a computer program by performing the basic arithmetic, logical, control and input/output (I/O) operations specified by the instructions. The computer industry has used the term "central processing unit" at least since the early 1960s.[1] Traditionally, the term "CPU" refers to a processor, more specifically to its processing unit and control unit (CU), distinguishing these core elements of a computer from external components such as main memory and I/O circuitry. The form, design, and implementation of CPUs have changed over the course of their history, but their fundamental operation remains almost unchanged. Principal components of a CPU include the arithmetic logic unit (ALU) that performs arithmetic and logic operations, processor registers that supply operands to the ALU and store the results of ALU operations and a control unit that orchestrates the fetching (from memory) and execution of instructions by directing the coordinated operations of the ALU, registers and other components. Most modern CPUs are microprocessors, meaning they are contained on a single integrated circuit (IC) chip. An IC that contains a CPU may also contain memory, peripheral interfaces, and other components of a computer; such integrated devices are variously called microcontrollers or systems on a chip (SoC). Some computers employ a multi-core processor, which is a single chip containing two or more CPUs called "cores"; in that context, one can speak of such single chips as "sockets". Array processors or vector processors have multiple processors that operate in parallel, with no unit considered central. There also exists the concept of virtual CPUs which are an abstraction of dynamical aggregated computational resources.
Cpu utilization so low on ryzen... like it's not even trying.. but... it should try.. because the frames aren't that good..?? Memory bottleneck? Or ryzen just sucks? What is happening?
The 2600 beats the 8100 in most games and buying the i3 8100 right now isn’t really worth it. With the upcoming games and 2020 games, the i3 8100 will struggle, might as well get the 2600. Less stuttering as well and lower CPU usage. The i3 8100 has a bad multi core score and you’re better off with a kaby lake i5 or coffee lake i5 or just a Ryzen 5
amd is really close to neck to neck with intel now on the same clock speed, well done, I'm glad cpu market is now exciting again, personally I'll choose amd on this one, seem like a nice future proof
When you use a high end GPU i3 will be bottleneck. Its a good CPU with gtx 1060 6gb combo. I search it from google.And I'm buying it in December 12 on my birthday😉 with gtx 1060 6gb
thats the point of the video dumbass to show the limits of both cpu is to bottleneck them at 1080p and a 1060 6gb with a 8100??? thats a bad pair, the 1060 WILL bottleneck the 8100 in some games..... trust me, that is my build now and i hated my decision, i shouldve gotten a 8400 or waited for the 2600x....... the 8100 should better be paired with a 1050 ti, 1060 3gb or rx 570
This is a 100€ cpu compared with a 200€ cpu. Get i5-8400 if you want performance for that ryzen price tag and in my country i5-8400 is 20€ cheaper than worse 2600.
I used my old i5-4460 for around 5 years and it still rekts some of these ryzens but when I upgraded to i5-8600k, it would be stupid to even talk about ryzens.
Cpu usage to high for Intel. I’ll take the 2600 any day. I do more the just game at times. Download and edit, more cores the better. And AMD gives me those cores for much cheaper. Thus my money is better spent.
Bad thread utilization and single-core performance as 95% here are getting a gaming pc for gaming. 100€ cpu vs 200€ cpu and similar FPS doesn't look that convincing to me either. :/
Raiden Sorry bud. Intel has delayed 10nm till 2019. There process has seen to many delays already. And it’s in low process mode already. I couldn’t care less about a few frames in gaming. I’ll take the mass computing over head any day. You know the 32 core monster AMD just released. And didn’t require 1200 watt cooler to stay stable. Be my guest and stay with Shintel. BWAHAHAHA. FPS is the only argument you have left.
Just get the Ryzen 5 2600 rather than spending a load on your CPU when u can allocate all that money you saved from buying an AMD cpu to put an extra 100 bucks to your graphics card and ram AMD CPUs are more future proof. Older games use less cores and are not as optimized but current new games are looking for more cores and threads. 🤷🏽♂️ If you are worried about the fact AMD doesn't have a high CPU usage just overclock it and spend a bit on a CPU cooler to replace the stock cooler
people dont understand cpu's... and dont understand gaming should be an EASY task to a real cpu... like most games uses 4 cores.... so even a fucking pentium will have a good performance in game... now when shit gets real... rendering... multi tasking... streaming... certain type of games who uses basically all the core that a cpu has (they arent many tho) thats where shit gets real... imagine a car and a truck... both have to take like a 50kg cargo from point A to popint B... both will do it... and the car will be actually faster (in this case intel is the car) now... when u have to take a 20 ton cargo... even if the car make 4 trips while the truck makes one still wont be aible to move the entire cargo... while the truck finish first easiily (even tho that is slower) thats exactly the intel vs amd right now... intel = fast car aka amazing in easy tasks like gaming... and amd is the truck amazing at the render stuff... BTW you can put a 2700x against an i3... game will use only 4 core and 2700x will, possibly, losse however usage will be 20 to one side and 98 to the other...
There's more to it than that , in any system there exists some bottleneck , mild or severe . What he has done here is take a very good gpu , and made it so that it doesn't really have to flex at all with either cpu , thus highlighting the difference in the CPUs , by combining the high end graphics with a low resolution test he intentionally made both cpus on both sides of the test the bottleneck to show how their performance differs.
I live in Russia, we have prices R5 2600 costs $ 37 more than the i3 8100. I think it is better to pay extra and get a more productive Ryzen. Sorry, I don't speak English very good.
Great. Enjoy Gaming !!!
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@@АртемийКонь Он сказал тебе. "Великолепно, приятного гейминга (игры)."
@@АртемийКонь Ну значит он одобряет твой выбор (У меня Ryzen R5 1600)
@@АртемийКонь Что? теперь понял ?
Quick answer: Don't buy i3 8100
Long answer: Do not buy i3 8100
Vladimír Kučák lol
It's $118 and almost matches the performance of a $200 cpu so I'd say it's worth the buy. And before you mention it z370 boards can go for as little as $100 nowadays.
Anon.jpg less expensive b360 Mobos are also available
Well, it depends, where you live. In my country the cost difference is less than $20. So I really wouldn't buy an i3-8100, but that's just my opinion.
P. S. Intel stocks are out, many shops in my country have stopped selling them so Core i3-8100 is impossible to buy.
The 4 core i3 is only $40 less than a 6 core 12 thread processor
I'm happy that with Ryzen AMD finally is competitive when it comes to gaming.
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Dennis the real mvp.thanks man
ooh a whole 20 fps difference between the two
sparten6 the ryzen has way less usage meaning when you tab out it won’t be super slow and laggy
the time stamps are in the description.
no senpi points for you...
*Ryzen 5 2600 Win* 🔥
In Russia i3 8100 - 159$
Ryzen 5 2600 - 159$
В днс 8100 стоит 9200 а 2600 13 тыс врод.
Lol what i3 8100 is 120$, 2600 is 190$
@@MODHIIK да так и есть
@@MODHIIK да тут сравнили видеокарту с видеокартой ,тупой тест .
Misteria i3 8100 ~ 129$
Ryzen 5 2600 ~ 190$
In Russia
Still I would buy 2600. It's simply a better CPU for my taste. 4 cores are not enough anymore.
AirsoftAddicted Agreed. Look at the CPU usage. The i3 is essentially pegged out the whole time and the Ryzen barely ever breaks 50%. Very similar performance with lots of CPU headroom left over--Ryzen all day long.
Its 110$ vs 200$. If i wanted to spend 200$ id just grab the 8400 that is 20$ cheaper and does circles around the 2600 in any of these games.
Joe Allen exactly
Just look at Assassin's Creed Multicore is future. 4 Core is out for future games
Witcher 3 can use up to 32 cores. Basically as much you throw at it - as much it will use. Looks same with Kingdom Come. Since both - AMD and Ryzen can run games in decent FPS, I think taking the CPU with more cores is simply smarter, especially taking in to account motherboard prices, temperatures and future support of platform... AMD is really smart choice right now.
I own 7700k with a decent motherboard... and if I can be honest, I feel how it's lacking with just those 4 cores :(
I love how core i3 is preforming as well as 2600 FPS wise but is using up 60% more power
90% vs 40% cpu usage. *Ok lol*
better utilization per core on intel
AMD WINS!!!
Yepp 6C vs 4C. So funny :'D
3800x vs 9900k amd wins
@Бен Гаррисон lmao that means that i3 is getting bottlenecked by the gpu, so it means that it is less future proofing
I know this video is around 5 months old but at the end of october 2018 prices for both cpus hover around 170-180€ in europe. The times of "4c/4t is all you need for gaming" are definetly over. Even my 4690k@4.7GHz paired with a rx480 nitro+ 8gb (1060 6gb level of gaming performance) occasionally bottlenecks in RotTR Geothermal Valley, don't even mention DRM crippled titles like AC:Origins. 4c/8t, better 6c/6t is the new entry level standard in gaming.
came from a 4690k@4.4ghz to a 2600x with a 1060 feels like a sidegrade but i did notice that my games dont ever stutter like they use to because my cpu often reached 100%
Core i3 8100 or 9100f both cost around $110 to $170 in some countries such as the U.S. Amd ryzen 5 2600 costs around $20 more than the i3, so the ryzen 5 2600 is worth buying it now with 6 cores and 12 threads compared to the i3
Собирал ПК 2 года назад с i3 8100. Думал щас поменять процессор , но понял что смысла мало после этого теста.
Lol big joke intel work at 80 %
And ryzen at 20 %
Are you dumb
6 cores 12 threads vs 4 cores 4 threads...
@@ghanouamr6069 at almost the same price, which one would you pick? You sir is stupid if you choose intel at this point. Results are obvious.
@@TheAriel8833 i explained why ryzen has less cpu usage,i didnt say choose intel or ryzen
why no temperature for 2600?
Cuz it is working in 40-75% not 100% like in i3
How a quad core 4 thread is beating 6 core 12 thread processor and why the ryzen CPU usage is so low, is it not performing to its full potential?
Games don't use so many threads. That's why intel keeps beating amd. Games are not optimised for high thread CPU
It should be i3 8100 vs r3 or 2600 vs i5 8400
And the price ?!!!
idk how old are these tests? cause on my 4 core - i5 4570 gta 5 runs at 100% cpu most of the time.
I think the 2200G is a more fair comparison due to them having a similar price range.
AHMAD H. This is useful to me since the new i3s are basically old i5s and its hard to find something like a 6600k compared to these newer cpus
1 year later and now the 2600x is now cheaper than the 8100...... hows that for price to performance?
Almost the same performance BUT
I3-cpu usage is around 90%
R5-cpu usage is around 50%
Which graphyic card is best with ryzen 5 2600?
What's your budget? I would recommend a rx 580, gtx 1660 ti, or a vega 56
@@DaRaccoon ty
@@DaRaccoon i was thinking about gtx 1660 6 gb
What about MSI Radeon AMD RX 580 ARMOR OC 8GB GDDR5 + I3 8100 ?
I have r1600@3.8 with gtx 1060. It's good.
Very, very good
i3 cpu usage lol
well its double the cpu usage at half the price of the 2600(where i live anyway), so i think its fair, and since im poor and i don't do anything on a pc except gaming and youtube i would buy the i3 8100. but no hate here i understand your point and i think you're right, so yes lol... :D
Ryzen will get obsolete never achieving 90% usage in gaming, games just don't use all those threads. Intel i5 is more future proof because their single core performance can handle stronger GPUs., that matters more than threads.
David Duarte Intel? Future proof? LMAO, in every thread you drop a funny joke..
Shut up AMD fanboy. A 5 year old i5 is still very good for gaming today, where are the FX processors? They're shit! And they have mroe cores!
David Duarte i can play at decent frames above 70 on some games with the FX6300 stock and 1060, on 1080p of course no all settings on ultra or high. 7 years old cpu.
the ryzen was just chilling on 34% usage on that first game lol
But how the fuck does the i3 have 40 degrees
i3-8100 has better single thread performance which is why it showed better FPS in some games. And by the way, if your CPU doesn't show high load it doesn't mean that it's not bottlenecking your GPU. The video should show the highest core load instead of the whole CPU load, which would really show when the CPU is bottlenecking (whenever this indicator reaches 100%). Also, people in the comments are right saying that Ryzen requires high frequency RAM for any good performance. But the additional cores of Ryzen could still help a lot in large scale games like Battlefield or World of Warcraft.
Why are you testing on 720p? Most people play on 1080p now.
@danskebankken So you test CPU benchmarks on a substandard definition? You gotta' explain that one. I don't know if you're just trolling me but when testing either CPU, RAM, or Vid Cards, you always max out the graphics. If he showed this in 1080p then I would say it was a fair assessment lmao
@danskebankken I never said it didn't. I don't even know if that's true really. I just wanted to know why he didn't test in 1080p. Is that an irrational question? Scattervolt did a test in 1080p for a cpu. I guess it's my personal preference. Perhaps you're supposed to do CPU benchmarks in 720p. I will always go with the benchmarks in 1080p though.
Ebony & Ivory, let's live together in harmony xD
Why 3200 RAM? 8100 works on frequency 2400. Most people do not overclock the processors, and RAM. Why don't you do tests at runoff frequencies?
Ryzen needs fast RAM to work properly.
What software do you use to monitor usages?
idan678 it’s MSI afterburner
i remember when you needed a high end pc for gta 5 with 60fps
now its 120 fps with medium end cpu's at 150 bucks
Yea but it is a gtx1080. Cpus got better and cheaper recent years and that was probably caused by the competition from amd.
Gta v never requires a high end pc
thank you.. this video helped me alot. i am getting a pc with the i3 8100
Dont do it
The 8100 sucks simply because it has 4 cores, 4 threads and around the same price of a CPU with 2 more cores, 8 more threads, and has lower chances of bottlenecking mid to high end GPUs (that CPU being the Ryzen 2600). Also, notice how the 8100 has a usage of 80-90% while the 2600 only at about 20-40%.
LUL
Интересный тест!
Большое спасибо!
Можно сделать вывод что для карт GTX1060 и младше i3 8100 просто конфетка! :)
Can you do i5 8400 vs Ryzen 5 2600 SMT off benchmarks ?
It's not fair...
Look if we put GTX 1060 to both i3 8100 would win.
i3 8100 bottlenecks GTX 1080
By steam statistics, main resolution for gamers is 1080p, with that information CPU -s test should be tested at that resolution. Some will say that this is a CPU test, that true, with that opinions why are GPU-s tested at 1080p, shouldn t be "normal" to test it only on 4k. 1080p is strong enough resolution for good CPU stress testing. If this was tested on 480p every Intel CPU-s would be at 100% usage and therefor we would see constant bottleneck and stuttering. I wouldn t be suprised that Intel stand behind this channel tests, something like "please test it at lower resolution so that our CPU-s looks much better"
This is a 100€ cpu against 200€ it should be crystal clear what wins but no. It doesn't really matter in this comparison.
games resolution 720p?
In my country, which is Ukraine, these processors are at the same price tag, guess what would be my choice?
Hmm xd which one u think xd
Porque ustedes siempre están pendientes del uso de la CPU ,si lo que mas importa son los fps que nos puede ofrecer la CPU en los juegos
The i3 8100 has got to be the best value-for-money CPU you can buy in 2018. The 2600 is certainly faster, but it's far more expensive. ($200 vs $120 as of the time of this writing) If you want 144 frames per second, the 2600 is a reasonable choice, but if you're building your first gaming PC and you just want a stable 60 frames per second, I can't think of a better choice than the 8100. That said, AMD's 2200G APU is a fantastic choice for gamers building an ultra budget system.
Hardly a reasonable choice for 144hz either. For 180$ you have the faster 8400, and at the same 200$ the 2600 costs you have an i5 8500 to match whatever OC you can get out of 2600, that shoots up in power usage once OCed. I see no reason why'd upgrade to Ryzen outside maybe being a productivity buff, and even then, only on occasion, as i just watched hardwarecanucks have to switch from ryzen to intel since ryzen is poop at adobe.
Remember this video is testing in 720p
For gaming, ya, its an amazing cpu
Update: The Ryzen 5 2600 is now being sold on both Amazon and Newegg for just $170, while the i3 8100 is still selling for $120 and the i5 8400 is either out of stock or selling at $200. At this point, I'm changing my stance. If I were building a gaming system today, the 2600 is the only CPU I would consider. It's just way too good to ignore at that price.
I am upgrading...from i3 6100+Z170 and surprise i can have 8100+Z370 or 2600+X370 at the same price dude.... 4c/4t vs 6c/12t really dude... i go for amd
I wanted to buy i3 8100 but now, I change my mind lol. What motherboard can I use for Ryzen 5 2600 and RX 570?
B450 in the case you are looking for a solid but not expensive PC, there are several options out there, but i, as a gamer,i recomend you to wait for the new ryzen 3000 series, they will be avilable soon (1 month), and, based on the data given by AMD in the Computex, the performance will be something interesting to look at, not talking about it´s next gen... have a good day.
@@SirAbbadon Did they reveal the price?
@@Marko-xn4kq Indeed, both 3600 and 3600X between $200 and $250, it is, certanily, more expensive than a 2600 currently specially now with all the discounts on second gen Ryzen, but is worth it to sacrifice ram or fans in the pc case or storage, parts that you could buy later, for having a third gen Ryzen. If you want some help with your gamer pc, send me a message.
@@SirAbbadon Alright. I will buy the B450 M then. Can it fit in the PC case MS Industrial Pro with the RX 570?
@@Marko-xn4kq It depends on the size of your RX... wich brand is your 570?
$118 VS $200
Dumb Dead1 118 for that shiit? What a theft
200 whole dollars for similar FPS with 118? I'd rather throw my money out of the window.
Raid okay? And the 8400 is also around 200, now let's compare workstation applications and this little 8100 will be squashed
now 200$ vs 195$
@@arzen9835 125€ vs 149€ LOLOLOLOL intel suck
guys this fps counter is on 720p !
Why not 1080p? Would you test it at 1080p a day?
This is a CPU comparison, not GPU.
Hola
con qué programa monitoreas la CPU, GPU etc. Saludos
:V y habla en español cuando ve que en todos los comentarios hablan inglés
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No Temp Data for Ryzen.... That should be some points off right? If your cpu can't report back temp data? I wouldn't buy it...
Why did you use gtx 1080 ? This bottleneck with i3 8100
did they played these games with integrated gpu?
Joke? No, its cpu test, i think there is cool expensive videocard there
@@Adam-Jnsn sorry i lately realized that ryzen 2600 dont have integrated gpu
Simple as saying if you are only interested in gaming and want the best performance then go for Intel, but if you are interested in streaming, rendering, multitasking and also gaming then go for ryzen, even though you will obviously not get the same performance as Intel for gaming. At the end depends on what the user needs.
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the ryzen 2600 have:
price = i5 8400
cores = i7 8700
performance= i3 8100
Ryzen 5 2600: (8100+8300+8700)/3 = 8400
not in Brazil, here price r5 2600 = i3 8100.
In Guatemala there is like 100 dollars of difference
wow.
I hope it was like yours :(
last year, Intel 4c/4t CPUs were winning by large difference vs Ryzen.
this year, Intel 4c/4t CPUs are dead.
that sweet 100% usage... i5's 6c/6t are next...
i dont understand people who builds top of the line gaming pc's and skimps on i5 instead of i7, i had 4670k it choked on rise of the tomb rider with my gtx 1070, now i have 4790k and every game is smooth as butter because of 8 threads.
Not even close to "dead", 99% of games still use 1-4 threads/cores and that's why ryzen's threads can't be utilized, which is bad. 100€ cpu vs 200€ cpu and similar FPS doesn't look that convincing to me either. :/
This year, Intel will release 10nm cannon lake even tho I wouldn't touch to a ryzen even with a long stick but atleast it is amusing
Raid "this year" lol no
Look at bf1 it make use of the threads of the cpu, now i think 2600 wins!
@@razmuzen1090 that's bullshit. Like every Tripple a title uses at least 6 cores. Most titles use 8. That's why the 8700k has more power in games than the 8600k even when they have the same clock speed. That's the the 8700 non k with 4.6ghz is as powerful in games as the i5 8600k 5ghz overclocked. Cuz most games already use 8 cores/threads
I3 = 144 dls.
R5=152 dls
I3 4c 4t
R5 6c 12t
R5 only pulls about 20-30 two with 3 times more threads and i3 can better move 1080
in addition to the generational difference, that i3 is a beast
720p in project?
R5 is a perfect balance, you can use it as a workstation and use playing games!
I wish I brought that instead :'(
LOL, in my country i3 8100 costs 200 bucks, as r5 2600 costs 190. Hmmm.... Which one should I buy?
@@th9667 Serious(x2)? Do you know something about SARCASM? Or ROFL, do u?
R5 2600 definitely
@@Brody1312 That's a rhetorical question.
я даже знаю в какой стране))
@@МишаняКожин Tut dumat' ne nado)
can you do another benchmark but the games running at 1080p
Upgrade potential
Ryzen 2600 -> 2700
Intel 8100 -> 8400 -> 8700k -> 9700k -> 9900k
2 gn vs 8 gn.
Ryzen will have the third generation with chances to upgrade aswell
@@CristianoNinjapika Its same shit as a 2th generation, but +5% performance
@@jksonRR No it will be better. There will have epyc cpus... Are you saying that 8600k and 8700k are the same?
@@jksonRR 15% not 5
I think that I am switching to ryzen now lol
for pure gaming definitely the core i3, its much cheaper and simply gets the job done.
Так что стоит покупать?
Whats byu?
Make sure you only play at 720p.
Low resolution=more fps=more cpu usage
Why work Ryzen 2600 on 3625Mhz? Boost Clock 3,9 OC clock easy 4.2 ghz!!
CPU 90% vs CPU 38%
low core utilization is a bad thing for gaming
qhy amd no temp ? amd xpu ned temp?
what is cpu
qwaken Processor in your PC... wtf
why cpu?
Where is Cpu?
A CPU is the electronic circuitry within a computer that carries out the instructions of a computer program by performing the basic arithmetic, logical, control and input/output (I/O) operations specified by the instructions. The computer industry has used the term "central processing unit" at least since the early 1960s.[1] Traditionally, the term "CPU" refers to a processor, more specifically to its processing unit and control unit (CU), distinguishing these core elements of a computer from external components such as main memory and I/O circuitry. The form, design, and implementation of CPUs have changed over the course of their history, but their fundamental operation remains almost unchanged. Principal components of a CPU include the arithmetic logic unit (ALU) that performs arithmetic and logic operations, processor registers that supply operands to the ALU and store the results of ALU operations and a control unit that orchestrates the fetching (from memory) and execution of instructions by directing the coordinated operations of the ALU, registers and other components. Most modern CPUs are microprocessors, meaning they are contained on a single integrated circuit (IC) chip. An IC that contains a CPU may also contain memory, peripheral interfaces, and other components of a computer; such integrated devices are variously called microcontrollers or systems on a chip (SoC). Some computers employ a multi-core processor, which is a single chip containing two or more CPUs called "cores"; in that context, one can speak of such single chips as "sockets". Array processors or vector processors have multiple processors that operate in parallel, with no unit considered central. There also exists the concept of virtual CPUs which are an abstraction of dynamical aggregated computational resources.
lol
Посмотрим в 2020-2022 году какой будет фпс в играх на i3 8100)) Достаточно вспомнить fx 8350 в свое время)
now, both are at the same prince (ignoring the fact that amd come with a cooler and intel don´t)
I would like to see at least 1 or 2 DX12 games like Forza Horizon 3.
which should I buy? plz tell me!!
testing GAME!!
I3-8100
Что лучше взять i3 8100 и gtx1050ti или Ryzen 5 2600 и rx570 , комп сугубо для танков и пабг?
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12 threads vs 4/4...
100€ vs 200€...
900 tl vs 850 tl in my country
@@razmuzen1090 its not 200 vs 100
@@ulasklc4539 in my country, it was
Cpu utilization so low on ryzen... like it's not even trying.. but... it should try.. because the frames aren't that good..?? Memory bottleneck? Or ryzen just sucks? What is happening?
What makes gaming better on Intel chipsets
And thats why you can get i5 8400 for 178 euros these days. But i liked it, overall.
Why does the i3 win in some games?
I think upcoming games will be cpu intensive which will use more cores.So,For future proof 2600 is the best.
In 2 or 3 years that ryzen will be useless
@@rey6450 Nah, still have a Ryzen 5 2600, works perfectly fine 60-144 fps in most modern games.
The 2600 beats the 8100 in most games and buying the i3 8100 right now isn’t really worth it. With the upcoming games and 2020 games, the i3 8100 will struggle, might as well get the 2600. Less stuttering as well and lower CPU usage. The i3 8100 has a bad multi core score and you’re better off with a kaby lake i5 or coffee lake i5 or just a Ryzen 5
Temperature of Ryzen 5 2600?
lucas2205alves #EST Truck 60-65°C
2:45 usage i3
sad, its bottlenecking the gpu soo bad
720p resolution= more fps= more cpu usage
amd is really close to neck to neck with intel now on the same clock speed, well done, I'm glad cpu market is now exciting again, personally I'll choose amd on this one, seem like a nice future proof
When you use a high end GPU i3 will be bottleneck. Its a good CPU with gtx 1060 6gb combo. I search it from google.And I'm buying it in December 12 on my birthday😉 with gtx 1060 6gb
thats the point of the video dumbass to show the limits of both cpu is to bottleneck them at 1080p
and a 1060 6gb with a 8100??? thats a bad pair, the 1060 WILL bottleneck the 8100 in some games..... trust me, that is my build now and i hated my decision, i shouldve gotten a 8400 or waited for the 2600x....... the 8100 should better be paired with a 1050 ti, 1060 3gb or rx 570
Which is more better for 2-5 years from now, Ryzen 5 1600 or i3 8100?
Ryzen.
definitively the ryzen, they not get fucked in 100% usage, remember that tests are from 720p
This is a 100€ cpu compared with a 200€ cpu. Get i5-8400 if you want performance for that ryzen price tag and in my country i5-8400 is 20€ cheaper than worse 2600.
Ryzen also has very bad core utilization and single-core performance because 99% of games use 1-4 cores/threads.
I used my old i5-4460 for around 5 years and it still rekts some of these ryzens but when I upgraded to i5-8600k, it would be stupid to even talk about ryzens.
the Ryzen5 2600 is now only $35 more than the i3-8100.... ezpz decision
in my country the ryzen5 2600 is cheaper then the i3 8100
Cpu usage to high for Intel. I’ll take the 2600 any day. I do more the just game at times. Download and edit, more cores the better. And AMD gives me those cores for much cheaper. Thus my money is better spent.
Bad thread utilization and single-core performance as 95% here are getting a gaming pc for gaming. 100€ cpu vs 200€ cpu and similar FPS doesn't look that convincing to me either. :/
Not to mention that coffeelake is older than ryzen "2" and Intel is releasing 10nm cannonlake this year.
Raiden
Sorry bud. Intel has delayed 10nm till 2019. There process has seen to many delays already. And it’s in low process mode already.
I couldn’t care less about a few frames in gaming. I’ll take the mass computing over head any day. You know the 32 core monster AMD just released. And didn’t require 1200 watt cooler to stay stable. Be my guest and stay with Shintel. BWAHAHAHA. FPS is the only argument you have left.
Rusty dude that guy has been copy and pasting on anyone who prefers amd. He's a Intel fanboy 100%
Why pay for 8 threads that you’re barely going to use?
Why 720p
Am i the only one here who notice the 8100 is around 40C
intel pentium g4560 vs intel pentium g4600 pls
Just get the Ryzen 5 2600 rather than spending a load on your CPU when u can allocate all that money you saved from buying an AMD cpu to put an extra 100 bucks to your graphics card and ram
AMD CPUs are more future proof. Older games use less cores and are not as optimized but current new games are looking for more cores and threads. 🤷🏽♂️
If you are worried about the fact AMD doesn't have a high CPU usage just overclock it and spend a bit on a CPU cooler to replace the stock cooler
I bought i3 8100. In the Fortnite works very good, but i think that Ryzen is better to all fps games.
Дак какой лучше???
Good video but it's on 720p.
why 720p not 1080p or 1440
CPU comparison, not GPU.
i3 8100 vs r5 1600 plss, even its the previous generation of ryzen cpu i want to see that comparison pls
Search i3-8100 vs Ryzen 7 1700 on RUclips and you will get the answer.
That cpu usage man oh my
Yeah, ryzens are very bad at core utilization and single-core performance...
people dont understand cpu's... and dont understand gaming should be an EASY task to a real cpu... like most games uses 4 cores.... so even a fucking pentium will have a good performance in game... now when shit gets real... rendering... multi tasking... streaming... certain type of games who uses basically all the core that a cpu has (they arent many tho) thats where shit gets real... imagine a car and a truck... both have to take like a 50kg cargo from point A to popint B... both will do it... and the car will be actually faster (in this case intel is the car) now... when u have to take a 20 ton cargo... even if the car make 4 trips while the truck makes one still wont be aible to move the entire cargo... while the truck finish first easiily (even tho that is slower) thats exactly the intel vs amd right now... intel = fast car aka amazing in easy tasks like gaming... and amd is the truck amazing at the render stuff... BTW you can put a 2700x against an i3... game will use only 4 core and 2700x will, possibly, losse however usage will be 20 to one side and 98 to the other...
In Philippines right now the current price of R5 2600 is ₱6,750 (125$) & i3-9100F is ₱5000 (100$) imma go get ryzen instead
I3 8350k (4.9ghz) vs r5 2600 (4.1ghz)
Step outside the box and show games no one else does! And not the same old Intel Single Threaded and Nvidia Optimized games! Is it that hard?
Usually popular games are tested because more people play popular games more than not-so-popular games. This is my personal opinion of course.
why in 720p?
cpu benchmark video
Why 720p?
Ömer GÖREN because he's testing cpu's, it doesnt matter what res he's using when going for cpu usage testing.
There's more to it than that , in any system there exists some bottleneck , mild or severe . What he has done here is take a very good gpu , and made it so that it doesn't really have to flex at all with either cpu , thus highlighting the difference in the CPUs , by combining the high end graphics with a low resolution test he intentionally made both cpus on both sides of the test the bottleneck to show how their performance differs.
we need an i3 with Ht maybe on i3 9100