Muivah’s home in this Tangkhul Naga village in Manipur plays a key role in India’s oldest insurgency
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
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Located in the Western Range of the Tangkhul Naga-dominated Ukhrul district in Manipur, Somdal village has played a crucial role in India’s oldest insurgency. The village has contributed several leaders to the Naga movement and is the home of the current NSCN(I-M) general secretary Thuingaleng Muivah. Muivah was born here in 1934, but hasn’t set foot in the village since 1963 after leaving to join the Naga political movement. ThePrint's Yimkumla Longkumer and Angana Chakrabarti visited the village and met Muivah's family and villagers to understand what they think of the current status of the Naga peace talks.
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fighting for the Rights is all ok
but illegal tax collections, extortions, kidnapping, killing Govt Servants and Genocides it's not the way one should practice...
Peace
Correct
You're right
The NSCN which form to protect You.,is now killing You GuYs
ManY Groups are there like, NSCN=IM,K,R,RS ETC
FOR WHAT.??
THIS SUCKS.,THEY'RE NOT YOUR FREEDOM FIGHTERS.,
IF EVERY
YOUR FREEDOM FIGHTERS ARE KILLING EACH OTHER.
AND YOU NEED A GREATER #NAGALIM BUT WE WON'T SHARE A PENNY ACRE TO YOU
If such pastors spread only hate and every one goes to church you know what his disciples will be - only hate mongers
Without knowing please don't say it ok.
This old man saying that Meiteis don't care about Naga (tangkhul) and hence no development. It was a tangkhul who served as CM of Manipur for 4 terms, 1980 to 1998. Mr.Rishang Keishing.
Yangmaso Saiza ... another tangkhul CM. He was brutally murdered by NSCN in front of his own family. So sad. NSCN kills even their own and then blame others.
Yes i would like to add to that! they live in their own lil bubble and seems to blame any little mishaps on the meiteis.
First thing they have the ST reservation and land protection which means they can stand as a candidate not just from the reserved 10 seats but the remaining 40 seats are open for all (not reserved 4 meitei) which is evident from lishang keishing reign.
MLR act severely restricts meitei settlement beyond the valley where there's free passage n settlement with little to no consideration for the native meitei.
Then if we are gonna talk bout budgetary allocation please don't get me started with the Autonomous district Council for god knows who's pocket all the budget seeps into. For if their people's leaders were all that sincere who are the meitei bureaucrats to say otherwise.
Lastly if we checked the demographic profile of the top govt. employees. It literally screams reservation privilege.... for god's sake please practice christianity rather than propagating it
Including Yangmaso Shaiza, another Chief Minister of Manipur, who worked for unity and development but was killed by NSCN
Feeling happy that the print is doing ground reporting and giving space to North East India.keep it up.❤️
J. K
Uhm I'm a Naga and I believe in Unity and coexistence. Peace be with you all 🙏🙏
Thank you sir ..i have very deeply fallen in love with a nagamese boy ..we both have confessed feelings for each other ..i am trying to learn the language and even willing to serve his family and our family ..in case we marry ...i really do love nagaland please don't part from us ..each star has its own diff history .. that's what makes the whole nation beautiful..
Also in between nagaland itself there is lack of unity ..each tribe wants to outshine the others ..and show itself superior .. believe me be careful for what you wish for ...if u get a separate nation your land will have even more for inter tribe attacks
It's so sad😔, there's still deep hatred amongst people using tribe's or race for politicals Ends.
Yes mee roooo😟
Imphal can never be compared with Guwahati or Delhi, blaming for all the ills of Imphal to Delhi is just a futile exercise.This is slowly creeping in among the valley dwellers and now they are slowly trying to stand on their own legs.Similarly ukhrul can never be compared with Imphal, this is the way world works.Quicker you accept this, better it is for you all🙄
Yes delhi is more polluted
I don't know about the concept of 'Naga' but I do know that the tangkhuls are a fierce tribe which has a much older history and an ancestry than afore mentioned concept and hence, if their fight is for their identity and right,much respect to them but extortion, illegal taxation, etc. in the name of freedom struggle puts the righteous, humble movement of the tangkhuls in a bad limelight.
We are feeling very sad for our people of Nagas divided & broken into piecies in manipur, Assam, Nagaland, Arunchal Pradesh and Myanmar (Burma).
The God of Nagas plan to bring NAGA people into one family.
Naga is not a single ethnic groups ,it is a political terms for a combination of several ethinicities. Those you called Nagas from Manipur ,Assam ,etc are ethinicity of their own respective lands but joined the group under gun point mostly.
@@precisionz6181 Tangkhuls too?
@@precisionz6181stop yapping no body point gun at us
Nice to see ground report from North East........never seen in Any mainstream media........ Keep it up The Print
Hi Umang. Always our endeavour to report from all corners of the country! So happy to hear that you appreciate that!
@@ThePrintIndia keep it up!
Fed up of outsiders representing native people. We need native reporters giving ground report from natives. Keep it up.
Nagas think they are special , having own culture , custom etc but what they don't know is that every state in India is unique language , culture , customs .
Nagas haven't fully come out of tribal mindset that the place they live is country and having indian Constitution with special naga article considered ruled by an outsider . Nagaland joining India as a STATE , means that ruling nagaland lies with people of nagaland . People of nagaland can exercise right over entire India but people from other part of India can't do so because of the special provision allowed for nagas .
India is one of few countries that protects tribal culture. Being part of India is not bad thing that can happen to nagas .
@AGASTHYA lol Im a Naga and I pay tax. Get your facts right.
From your name I assume you are from Tamil Nadu. Look at the people in TN and our Dravidian parties. Recently Stalin said he would be open to an independent Tamil Nadu. Just like Tamilians have nothing to do with the rest of India, Nagas have nothing to do with the rest of India and both must asserts their independence.
It is ok for different people to form a union as one country, dissolving their uniqueness but there should be a gain from it. What has the Indian Union gained from being a unified entity of vas differences? Zero. It’s a disgrace to humanity as a whole and a laughing stock of the world. Would it not be better if the different people go their separate ways and govern themselves?
@AGASTHYA That's just your assumption.
I have never paid taxes to the Nscn Im, I have only paid taxes to the Govt.
Why should we be okay with colonization?
It's the 21st century, why can't India just leave?
@AGASTHYA You're correct, no other Indian or Non Nagas born there can buy land.
And we are not interested to set up businessess or buy property in other states.
There is a huge presence of Assam Rifles which the public hates.
I couldn't care less if Kashmir or Tamil Nadu leaves the Union, why do you want us to be with India?
I mean the people doesn't wanna be a part of India.
Everything us divisible into smaller parts even families and atoms. At what point does it stop ? I am sure within the Nagas there are subdivisions that are "unique"
Iam from Andhra Pradesh. I had my own culture, tradition, customs , language, literature and history. I submitted everything for my country India. Which gave identity and citizenship as indian.today I'm wearing dress made by some other state in India. rice we grown is exported to other parts of my country.my country is protecting me and my family and my friends.
Who said you don't have it? You have your own culture and you have agreed to be part of India but Nagas had not and that is the differences. Our traditions are poles apart, our ways of administration are poles apart too
@@zingtai7426sorry. From above video most repeated words are our culture, our customs our tradition. What does it mean rest of country don't had those?
@@agopalakrishna3898 who said they don't have it. We are stating the fact that there is no relationship whatsoever with the rest of Indians. Nor we join the Indian Union by concent or merger agreement.
@@zingtai7426 not only nagaland. 500+ territories merged into Indian union with agreement. Those 500+ are benefited and they are loyalty to integrity of country.
@@agopalakrishna3898 who told you Nagaland merge with India? Nagas have sovereign villages coming together forming a Nation and declaring Independence before India did. India curved out a small land to form a state called Nagaland state and divide the rest in Assam, Manipur and Arunachal. Likewise Myanmar divided the Nagas into different states and divisions. Get your fact rights.
Nagas living in Manipur is not living in Manipur land we are living in Manipur in our own ancestral land.The land which we are living now is our ancestral land.
Does any one see any of the points made in favor of separatism stand ground? I really don't, even if I tried to.
Aren't we all very different from each other with very varied cultures, languages food and lifestyle? Yet, amicable talks and self improvement is important to grow as a society.
You're correct mate.
No culture or group of people is more important than the other.
The thing is though, we never wanted to be a part of India, we were forced and colonized.
@@indiegenre9333 Any good source for validating what you spoke?
@@indiegenre9333 Do you even know what colonisation even means? You are just a bunch of lazy bums who are quick to blame others for all your misfortunes instead of fixing it. Anyone who has visited Nagaland can see the pathetic infrastructure all over the state. Compared to Manipur its like 20 yrs backward. But the Nagas are shameless enough to accept govt grants and want independence for reasons which even God can't justify. And good luck sorting tensions amongst the Naga tribes after achieving your la la land. Although most of you are educated on paper, but in reality are irrational dumbfucks.
@@shenanigans4177 lol yes you're partly correct.
Im not even a Naga from Nagaland.
Im a naga from Ukhrul Dist which is in Manipur.
Yes our Naga leaders are corrupt and we love grants from the Govt but that doesn't change the fact that we were forced to be Indians.
Why do you want us to be a part of India so bad?
@@x3nn0n You can simply read about the History of Nagas on Wiki or read books such as Kuknalim, Naga Armed Resistance: Testimonies of Leaders, Pastors, Healers and Soldiers and The History of Nagas.
Thanks to the print for wonderfull journalism ....In the time commando comic channels as famously quoted by the great SG
“We have our own identity, culture, identity, religion ...” You can say that about most of the states in India. We are still living in the Indian Union where nobody stops us from following our practices, barring the occasional effort to push Hindi.
What stops Nagas from being like the 28 other states?
It's not just about that. We were never under the Indian or the britishers. That's the difference between them and us.
@@range4114 Nagaland was very much under the British rule. That's how Nagaland became part of the Indian Union.
Are you disputing this? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagaland#British_India
Nagas were invaded
@@ErenYeager-jp4gc Of course. That was the case with the rest of India, and most of Asia & Africa. Nobody invited the British.
@@patmclaughlin107
Only Naga hills district was under British administration, rest of areas like erstwhile Tuensang and neighbouring areas were beyond the British administration. These regions came under Indian control only in 60s.
Thank for Ur wisdom sir ..love from Nagaland 💕
*@PRINT* Ms. Longkumer, SG has earlier excellently decluttered Muviah and the surrounding issues. It is great to see this video report that gives so much more texture and layering to SG's by adding local sights, sounds & voices and views of people. *Thanks for this fantastic report! Well done!*
Some facts: The name tangkhul was given by meeteis during time immemorials. In meetei dialect tangkhul means preciuos locality where meetei and tangkhul had very close relations, it is said that some tribes goes to the plain (imphal valley) first and it came to be known as the meeteis and the one living behind at the hills were the tangkhul. Even we meeteis performed occasion every year like mera wayungba which means lifting up a pole with touch on the top to let the brothers know that we are okay. Even in meeteis ancestral holy festive times known as lai haraoba, there is always a dance know as tangkhul jagoi practice from times immemorial. The term Naga came very recently. These brothers are just threatened or brainwased by the terror or looter groups nscnim led by Muivah.
So true
The name Meetei was given by Tangkhul since time immemorial. In Tangkhul Language Meetei means People who separated. Which means the Meiteis were Tangkhuls who left them and mixed with other people and became separated from them. The ancestors of Meeteis went to valley and mixed with Bengalis, Bishnupriyas, Brahmins, Muslims, Shans, Kukis, Burmese, Chinese, Tripuris etc and became different.
Nagas were naga only since time immemorial ..... There' s nothing to confuse ...the only thing is we got separated to different states and Myanmar...
I don:t know why we are called naga... Moving out of states, i m more closer to my meitei brothers & sisters.. Might be we have many things in common.
Very important note 👍 a very true resource indeed
Where are the meiteis benefits? We are not having the opportunity of 4grade job too
Muivah was not Naga when he was Born in Manipur. Because there is no Naga in the history of Manipur either in the ... BCE/CE Civilization of Kangleipak. Some hills minority community has been forced with Gun-point by NSCM-IM to become Naga in many part of Manipur, shame on you.
But I do respect the pure Naga of Nagaland.
You r are naga living in manipur dont forget . If u support naga that's ok.. Naga and meitei are blood brother.. You are a pastor without knowing the relationship of forefather.. No reason to be a pastour
A Christian tangkhul pastor saying "we have our own religion". 😄
😁 knew somebody would pick up on that
Yes we nagas have our own religion .but now as Christians comes most of them converted to christianity
@@Therock-tx9bw *had
If anything cultural is not practiced, then its dead. An analogy would be Latin, although the language isn't used today but the Latin script is still widely used.
@@shenanigans4177 he is talking about in cultural term but he is talking about religion .
He means to say, his religion is different from mainstream Indians who are Hindus and Muslims.
We are nagas as one❤
Thank you Ma'am for letting know about this... especially for we the Naga youngsters.
Subscribed it....waiting for more.
I support Naga independence if majority of naga don't want to consider themselves Indian.
I appreciate you for your rational thinking
I love the speech of our pastor.
Problem is not with frontier states but with delhi...who want to impose their value on this people...
Yes
Its high time for all factions and naga tribes to come together
As a Pastor??
Do you think Killing the innocent people is the right thing for movement???..
Do you really think God will accept it..
Very true. Demanding freedom through killing innocent people/ extortion is not fair.
I respect to naga people they are humble and respect people
It's time to reunite we will fight for our rights don't fall in one time lolipop my dear Nagas. There is no kaccha or paka Naga there is only one Naga
Love from Nagaland ❤️❤️❤️
kuknalim
@Neha Khan ya
Lmao you still alive? You are Meitei , Naga's will never comment like this 😂, They are more to Action than talking sht 😂😂😂😂😂
Fighting for you rights is all good. But killing innocent people, kidnappings, extortion and threatening people with serious consequences for going against their words, how will they justify it?
Even if agreements takes place between the faction and GOI , I am sceptical about their deeds and motives. May the best come out of this mess!!
From The Statesman, a Kolkota based newspaper ... an excerpt
Last year I met two important Nagas of Manipur. One hailed from Ukhrul and was an academic before becoming a minister and the other was a cabinet minister in numerous ministries in Manipur. To the second one, who hailed from Senapati district, I asked “Tell me what wrong have the Meiteis have done to the Nagas so as to blame them for all the ills of the community. And as a former PWD minister you know that there exists a Tribal Sub-Plan in the planning documents of the state and also that all contract works in the Naga areas were only given to the Nagas.” He laughed and said, “If we don’t blame the Meiteis for our plight what else can we tell them while asking for votes.”
To the academic-turned-politician, I recollected how during my tenure as a member of the State Human Rights Commission, I had toured Ukhrul and registered over 20 cases in two days all relating to cases of non-completion of school buildings, road constructions abandoned half-way and, dispensary buildings left incomplete. And while issuing notices to the state authorities over these issues relating to Right to Education, Healthcare, good communication, sanitation and safe drinking water, we had specifically asked them to include the names of the contractors concerned to whom these tasks were initially handed over to. Then, I told him that all the contractors turned out to be local Tangkhuls who had made their fast bucks and left the area to settle down in Imphal.
100%true.
Love from naga true word❤❤
These days, there are certain section of community and individual from Nagaland who don't favor our Tangkhul brothers in Naga National Cause, maybe due to leadership issue or some personal grudges and even tagging them as Manipuris/non-Naga.
As of my observation, Tangkhuls and other fellow Naga tribes in Manipur seem much patriotic and values about ethnic brotherhood of Nagas regardless of divided political boundaries.
As a concern individual to say, it's not fair to undermine any tribe or community base on different sentiment one may have over the other so long as Naganess is concern for a common goal and aspiration.
Whatever the differences, each one exist due to significant other as a Naga. External forces are vast, unity is strength. Kuknalim!
Much ❤fm Kohima!!
This is what NSCN does to its own tribe. Read some news ....
Activist abducted, tortured by NSCN-Isak Muivah faction for filing RTI application in Manipur
An attempt to expose the misappropriation of development funds in Senapati district, proved very costly for Kh. Enoch, a social activist from lower Phaibung village of Manipur.
Enoch along with P. Johnson of Taphon Phymai Village in Senapati district had sought information under RTI act on the dispersal of funds for various development projects, carried out by Autonomous District Council.
A sizable chunk of the funds meant for all Nagas were allegedly embezzled by some corrupt ADC members in collusion with senior leaders of NSCN/Isak-Muivah faction, and used for personal gain.
On January 20, armed cadres of the NSCN-Isak Muivah faction abducted Enoch and tortured him for daring to file an RTI in the matter. They kept him locked up for around 10 days at some unknown location and pressured him with death threats to withdraw the RTI.
Great
If we're a Christian we not need freedom. In the name of Jesus we are old ready free from this world
If you need freedom in this world
You will never be free went you Die 💔 love your neighbour .
If you one free . Your family yourself and your beloveding sister . Brother. And your wife will
Never found you again 😔 in this
World. so how enjoy your life with your family ❤️ and your friends ❤️😊. If you one free you will kill human being . If you kill human being you will never ever go to 💔 Haven 💯. Brother naga we are the children's of God Jesus 😇 don't such freedom in this world 🙏 thanks
We all are Indians. Then why a separate country? We respect all.
True we do respect each and every culture.
It's just that we were colonized and forced to be a part of India.
Imagine India being still colonized by the Brits.
@Mark ego this might have happened in some isolated case in past.. in my lifetime I didn't see or hear a single incident of this sort.. its just that you people want all freebies from us.. feed on our money, you all come and roam in whole country and settle wherever you want but in the end you cry foul and want exclusivity over your land.. how hypocritical you people are..you should change your attitude otherwise people like us who support the development of North East will simply throw you out of our land and break your bones and have the north east for ourselves..
Don't cross your limits or else you shall not exist..
@@amitmishra-ob8vf 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😂😭😭
@Mark ego surely u r left alone that is why people with your ideology hide in Myanmar and indian army doesn't let you breathe there as well
@Mark ego I haven't visited true..but your people from Nagaland come to Delhi..you want education in our institution, you also demand respect and security which we take into consideration and help them with..but mostly they are ungreatful selfish people who take everything from everybody but when it comes to their state they come up with bullshit as usual.. do you people let other state people settle peacefully in your region ..nope...
Very weird that the only people who were interviewed were old and related to Muivah or Chruch.
There are young people whose future is at stake. Should have interviewed them too. Old people with their old ideology are going to have the same separatist mentality and they would want to keep it alive. What matters is the youth. In Naga problem, Chruch and foreign missionaries have a huge role. These people are entitled to their opinion but it isn't a complete picture.
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What meiteis getting ..dont blame to meitei..why so angry grandpa..... The governance system is fail... But the relationship between meitei and naga can't seperate by muivah
EXACTLY MY THOUGHT WE MEITEI HAVE BEEN BLAMED AS THE ROOT CAUSE FOR EVERY MISMANAGEMENT ON THEIR PART . LIKE for god's sake ADC is operated by their own people
"Twinkling Muivah" 🙂 I love it!!!
Many sentences are lost in translation
NSCN IM a Tangkhul dominated group? You don't even know how ridiculous that statement is, do you?
Because it is....
@@wlong787 Do Nagaland want independence??
NSCN IM is indeed a Tangkhul dominated group. No denial in that and it's been a headache to people of Nagaland.
But its true..
@@ErenYeager-jp4gc lol we love NSCN( IM)we nagas from Nagaland are united with them.
@ThePrint these so called "freedom fighters" are nothing more than leeches. I request The Print to stop giving them air time.
And to be honest, we don't want "Naga independence". All we care about is preserving our dignity as Indians which, sadly, has never been accorded to us by other Indians.
Living a very simple life and home...waw!! Else can you imagine their riches...
This is one sided report.. Openly supporting the fractionalism.. This will disturb the peace in the State of Manipur.. Giving negative comments about metei.. Please delete this post..
I m so glad to see a story like this . National media doesn't have time to cover subject like this
I live in Jammu. According to me,Its better leave kashmir valley ,Nagaland & Mizoram for betterment of rest of India . Better demand complete Siachen from pakistan. Kashmiri, Naga & Mizo will never consider themselves Indian even if valley one day peaceful. Better to invest fund in people & region which consider themselves Indian like Ladakh, Sikkim, arunachal, Meghalaya, Manipur, Tripura, Jammu and rest of India.
@@hemangshrivastava9561 mizoram is peaceful now..... Problem is Manipur. Get your facts right.
@@sng2260 yes that's true ... But regarding Manipur, people in the valley have accepted coexisting with Indian union... The major problem lies with the Nagas inhabiting Manipur which constitute more than 60% of the total geographical area of Manipur
@@tangshang6858 I hope that everything becomes peaceful. All the demands and other things must be negotiated peacefully with dialogue.
My heart goes with you Nagans brothers and sisters gro Igorot Philippines who have similarities in culture with you ❤
10:26 mama said it right. There was no border before the british or french or japanese came to northe east. Infact jawaharlala nehru didnt even know manipur existed untill the british. God dammed greedy nehru wanted take over the north eastern hills and valleys and under his command there were genocides in nagaland because all the nagas dont want to be part of india. He said" even if sky falls down or the earth breaks and swallows i will never let go of the nagas". Well here we fighting and killing each other...nehru must be smilling in hell right now.
Henced proved : "The print" tries to divide Indians.
Sharmaji: You are Indian by choice. Nagas are Indian by force.
He spoke v well
Here you are all criticising the demands of the Nagas. If the government of India deemed the demand unreasonable it would have dismissed it a long time ago. Other communities in India also has similar demands as the Nagas but GOI did not take heed so maybe you should instead of thrashing their passionate demand for freedom, look into the history of the Nagas in depth.
State of that village and whole naga dominated areas would hv been better if there was a people movement against corruption,against gun culture.. killing innocents will only lead to this kind of pathetic state.
Indeed, its time for nagas and kukis to come together fight for the common causes. Note only the two but all the tribals living in the region.
Print, you haven't heard anything of the majority people living in Manipur. Yes, it's true history are even darker when you see from d other side of the winner. Hope to see more insight from Manipur n other North-east states
Do people of Manipur wants independence???
Please tell me!!!
@@hemangshrivastava9561 Maybe, because our king was forced to sign the mergence with India and just after mergence, India gave away our Kabou valley to Myanmar for Andaman and Nicobar islands.
To anyone watching this apart from Nagas... You really don't know about us so what I urge you people is please shut your mouth and be quiet.. We are Nagas and will be Nagas forever....
Ma,am, your video is like devide and rule policy between communities.
How??😆😆 Ask your Chief minister FoH .KKL etc you'll find out more
The Meeteis, Nagas and the Kukis live together peacefully from the past. But in late 1990s the NSCN I-M lead by Th. Muivah carried a genocide activities on the Kukis, killing more than 1000 innocent civilians ,turning 360+ villages to ashes and leaving 1.5 lakhs homeless.
That's why the Kukis observe 13 Sept. as BLACK DAY every year.
The ethnic cleansing campaign by T.h Muivah has to be dealt seriously. The Kukis need justice....
We need justice... 🙏🙏🙏
You mean peacefully like your people using British provided guns terrorizing smaller Tangkhul villages in the past? Tenants with guns trying to grab our lands.
Len
Indian cultural connect extended upto thailand and indonesia. Even today the king of thailand is called Rama X. Further myanmar too has a shared buddhist heritage. The cultural ties extended upto even china.
It all boils down to what we wish to see; the differences or the commons. Further it's about aspirations. Identity though is a complex issue. Many in nagaland itself identify more with south Korea. That's how saranghai and oppa entered the lingua franca.
Peace must be the first prerequisite. Rest everything can be discussed. With peace every solution is plausible. And i do support ACAUT movement 👍.
Lastly two cheers to rani gaidinliu 👍👍
It really doesn’t extend to Naga areas though.
Suggestions to media the print Remove mic from old people. Old people will say Stories. Ask young people who had dreams
Good point
Well said.
Old people have stories of Indian invasion. You can't hide the truth.
@@ErenYeager-jp4gc go back to few hundred years back in history . U will know who invaded and who occupied and settled
@@ErenYeager-jp4gc Come on then seperate from India. Thats much better, you guys are creating hate,envy between us.
Self-centred tribe... Shameless
They are already in an Independent Nation-State called India of which they are equal citizens. The state does provide them with the basics of life, the rest they have earn for themselves. Let them think beyond Tribal affiliations.
I pray that god will help us gain our freedom back from India.
@Baljinder Singh 🙄
Wat freedom do you want...you are living peacely at your state ....who torture you ....
India support free Nagaland
@@hemangshrivastava9561 why should India support the terrorist state Nagaland....do you know how many indian soldiers lost their lives at Nagaland by this fucking Nagaland NSCN IM...You must know these
How Long India will keep many states like Kashmir ,Naga & many more states by army might, a day has to come .The states that just hate to be part of india will definitely get independence .
Yes , Naga is not indian because of culture, livelihood and people mind totally different from mainland of india. After independence still northeast people neglected by indian so why not asking for separate country. .
Yes bit now we dont neglect them . They are now being connected to maimlamd
Thank
If people of Nagaland themselves don't wanna be a part of India why force them...?
Because of Indian constitution and only few people were interviewed and all of them were old
When Chanakya failed to get consensus among fragmented kingdoms to stand up and put united front to upcoming invasion by Alexander that's when he decided enough of fragmented existence .
@@islandsunset Its a matter of "Who actually wants to consider themselves Indian vs Not wants to consider themselves Indian". Better India keep & invest fund in letter ones. Like Tamil Nadu,Jammu, Ladakh, kerala, Sikkim, Meghalaya etc.
India consist of emotionally connected States would be more stable and developed. Rest should be leave & be friendly neighbors.
@@hemangshrivastava9561 that would be a playground of people with vested interests. India is a emotionally connected states but tomorrow someone will try to wedge a difference in that emotion. We also need a strong mechanism to protect national integrity.
@Ayush: Brilliant question!
Gandhiji was great and Naga people loves him much because of this same question he had for the Nagas!
You nagas are from Mars 😂😂 very unique
3:00 That old man slammed the Meiteis very nicely.
Brainwashed old man just like some of those Brainwashed Meitei hypocrites who only blame Indian Govt when its their people who are betraying them...
Typical old man of Ukhrul (Yukhul) high on country liquor.
The country liquor known as ‘Yu” was abundant in the village and the villagers were found mostly drunk. Afterwards, neighborsYukhul came the word Ukhrul.
our population is 40 times higher than the Nagas and are one of the most enriched ethnicity in India although we demanded more autonomy for our state yet we never demanded such things.
But is it ri8 to force Nagas to be part of yje country if they themselves wanna separate
@@ayushsrivastava4623 yes it is right
No state has the right to secede from india
Who are you?
It is not about Population. Before India got Independent Nagas are free and they have their own land. But after 1947 India invaded Nagas Land and burnt down many villages. Indian army rap women & torture many innocent people and many were died. Nagas are not demanding anything. Nagas have their right to live free. Nagas wants to be a free country not under Indian constitution. Nagas Land is not belong to India.
You're wrong about them being independent my friend. They were never been free historically they were under the suzerainty of the burmese kings after that they became part of Bengal Presidency , so you got the first part wrong. But I agree with you about the army's treatment towards our Naga brothers and sisters but isn't that criminalized since 2017 ?
Even though there will never be a separate constitution or flag but other problems of the people should be taken care of. They are our own after all.
Now a days S. Gupta was not a true journalist, his style of reporting is in favour of the present government and all the time he is taking the role of a villian by reporting/narrating indirectly to divide and rule policy among the peoples of North East India. His aim is nothing but to abolished the idea seven sisters. He is very itching to heard the name of "seven sisters". He could not sold 100 copies of "The Print" in a month. If you purchase daily newspaper, you will get one copy of the Print on free of cost. If the paid journalist like Mr. Gupta increases many - folds, what is the faith of "India"? India will be divided into 6(six) Independent countries namely : 1. South India 2. Bangal Province 3. North East 4. MADHYA Bharat 5 . Punjab and 6.Jamu & Kashmir.
Longkumer👍 S Gupta and you can fetch a Nobel prize if you start doing stories on NH-2 since 31 January 1980. Eagerly waiting.
Love to naga brothers n sisters i want to share is that during independence india was more than 500 princely state or independent areas so its right to demand but if everyone is start asking different constitution I'm not sure which direction india will go
Dear brother other states have joined india willingly but Nagas history are different from other states... We were forced to be part of India by raping , killing innocence, murdered, mother's lost their sons , daughters being raped by those Indian soldiers of those era ...... We declared our independence prior to India... But we were attacked . That's the reality
@@angchekonyak7620 That happened in Manipur as well. In fact, Indian govt gave away Kabou valley to get Andaman and Nicobar islands.
Everyone has their own customs ... own religion...that doesn't mean we need a separate nation a separate flag..this is no correct...
Every part of India was independent before the British. So there's nothing wrong to ask for the same
Then why exist Bhutan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan or Burma etc..all should be India or even England!
This is a nation, everybody lifts the weight equally...
Better leave them
Ask this pastor how "naga" even came to be. That's why we say little knowledge is dangerous. Muivah has successfully brainwashed these poor hill people abusing their simple mindedness. So tragic
U know u r high
When u think u can defeat worlds largest standing force
Just like India did to British
We are not living in Manipur land we are living in our own land pastor
Yep he's confusing himself
cant see one sensible comment from a mainland guy. no wonder why nagas want to be seperated.
What more sensibility do you want?!
I have seen countless here in the comment section though 🤷🏿♀️
Tangkhul are not nagas they are not pucca naga
I support free Nagaland
I am from mainland
@@hemangshrivastava9561 then u too go from india . Traitor
@@ashnikkumar Now a days everyone is traitor . I am proud traitor.😂
We have our oun version of India.
Naga national movement has been hijacked by the tangkhuls long time back in order to further their own agenda. Tangkhul never considered themselves as nagas until late 70s then suddenly they claim themselves to be the pioneers of naga national movement lol.
To be honest I personally think Naga independence at the moment would be irrelevant since there is no development or technological advancement
Yes, people are also very narrow mjnded
If every culture / ethnicity in india demanded "nation", India wont be India. Besides if Nagas ask for self governance within state, or rights to practice their own culture it would make sense and garner support of most Indians. but for new nation? Wth. This does seem like separatist mentality. Besides a special status can help them preserve whatever that nagas want to preserve as well as govern themselves. I really dont get it.
You're correct but we never wanted to be a part of India.
We were colonized.
Will you be happy if India was still under British rule?
@Baljinder Singh we never know who was indian before but we knew after when your people come and occupied our land and divided Naga's even in Myanmar ...
@Baljinder Singhearly 1970s why did India divided naga family in Myanmar???? Tell me
@Baljinder Singh why did India divided naga tell me
@Baljinder Singh from 1947? WTF India and Myanmar made border in 1970s ...high officer just came from both side and made boundary
They live in their own lil bubble and seems to blame any little mishaps on the meiteis.
First thing they have the ST reservation and land protection which means they can stand as a candidate not just from the reserved 10 seats but the remaining 40 seats are open for all (not reserved 4 meitei) which is evident from lishang keishing reign.
MLR act severely restricts meitei settlement beyond the valley where there's free passage n settlement with little to no consideration for the native meitei.
Then if we are gonna talk bout budgetary allocation please don't get me started with the Autonomous district Council for god knows who's pocket all the budget seeps into. For if their people's leaders were all that sincere who are the meitei bureaucrats to say otherwise.
Lastly if we checked the demographic profile of the top govt. employees. It literally screams reservation privilege.... for god's sake please practice christianity rather than propagating it
IT IS A GOOD THING THAT KUKIS HAVE MADE US REALIZE HOW MUCH OSTRACIZED WE ARE IN OUR OWN LAND!
INCLUSION OF MEITEI IN ST IS A MUST
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The Meities are taking everything 😂😂😂
I feel you bro🤣
Naga nation is the Indian nation. Literally every state is so different from each other in terms of culture, language, and tradition. They are starting this for power, not for the people.
We all states are the part of Indian Subcontinent🇮🇳💐💕.
We should be United 👍
This is really wonderful but I am sad by watching Shekhar Gupta's print episode on Naga issues
The report was good at the beginning but at the end it was so stupid. She was trying to mislead the whole Naga.
She didn't went there to mislead but was invited to clearify!
The old man said meitei has taken everything. What are the things meitei have taken? And what about NSCN IM collecting money from the trucks and buses for what?
The blame game will never end. It's like tit for tat.. Many were brainwashed and most of the revolutionary movements were spearheaded by hate agenda.. Even there are bunch of Meiteis who only blame the central govt when its their own people who are looting them.
6th Schedule, ADC and HAC powers and financial benefits.
@@zingtai7426 This is what NSCN does to its own tribe. Read some news ....
Activist abducted, tortured by NSCN-Isak Muivah faction for filing RTI application in Manipur
An attempt to expose the misappropriation of development funds in Senapati district, proved very costly for Kh. Enoch, a social activist from lower Phaibung village of Manipur.
Enoch along with P. Johnson of Taphon Phymai Village in Senapati district had sought information under RTI act on the dispersal of funds for various development projects, carried out by Autonomous District Council.
A sizable chunk of the funds meant for all Nagas were allegedly embezzled by some corrupt ADC members in collusion with senior leaders of NSCN/Isak-Muivah faction, and used for personal gain.
On January 20, armed cadres of the NSCN-Isak Muivah faction abducted Enoch and tortured him for daring to file an RTI in the matter. They kept him locked up for around 10 days at some unknown location and pressured him with death threats to withdraw the RTI.
May be Meitei didn't took anything but destroyed the democracy of Nagas!
I'm really confusing for tangkul people are from were any why meitie people in a ritual ceremony tangkul is also attached with it.call lai houraba ritual.
I believe the context of naga wasn't there in Manipur then. That's why many rituals associated with meitei community with other tribes gave their proper tribe name like kabui. Tankhul etc. The context of naga came to Manipur later on after the naga movement.
@@sarahstiara2802 read my comment sentence by sentence..
"I'm also naga" 🤣🤣🤣
What is the difference between Indian nation and Nagas? India is a union of different peoples and communities like Nagas.Nagas have no common language, boundary or culture, a union of different tribes settled in Nagaland,Arunachal Pradesh, Assam,Manipur and Myanmar. A group of people may aspire to form a nation, its their desire but if it is contradictory to a nation already formed,and as strong as India,I think it will remain as unique history without achieving the ultimate goal without understanding among the people living together in this part of the world.
Are you serious, they are trying to force Sanskrit language in schools, religious intolerance is at the rise. They banned beef meat.
What is difference of Manipur and meitei ?
They were once ethnically same tribal people like tangkhuls and Nagas of Nagaland . But after coming of Bihar pandits and intermarriage with tribals , they are now converted to Hindu or can be called as mayang in local dialect .
Ziro Lol...as if Christian is your ethnic religion... At least we don't force anyone to join our religion like u guys did...
@@Greyhound0111 Inter racial mixing of the meitei is strictly limited to royal falimy and a few surname that doesn't come under the 7 yek salai/clan. That generalisation u r making puts off the interest of pure meitei that still exists to this day. U don't know a thing about lois and the burmese invasion. please don't make baseless assumption for ur interest.
@@suanlsrm6488 lol just accept the fact your original race been mixed and manipulated haha
Harping on a past and being rigid will never bring peace and development to the Thangkul Nagas.India is a nation for all of us.They are as much the owner as any other.
What you are suffered.. Can u tell the name of meitei person what they took from u naga tell me....???? I can cut my hats off
So, lovely, I was there in somdal while I was 10 years old in 1980. the people s are kind and good for. me!! now it seems so develop to compared with at that time.
for assuming the conserned of independent movement, I think there is a mistake, in the eye of God!!
Is this Akumla from Oriental College Kohima??
Hope you could be more lively sis,... It's interesting of course but please improve .. Carry on
"Hindustan zindabaad, Naga regiment zindabaad".NSCN👎👎👎👎🤙🤙🤙
Demanding for something which the constitution doesn't permit. What they r asking is something which you will achieve only if you battle, putting down their arms is not gonna work it's like they have little hope like maybe will get maybe not.
Is they nscn are rebel than done you think he's gonna have interviews in Delhi, Shillong etc...there's a difference between rebels and freedom fighters, rebels kill to spread fear and force others while freedom fighters fight and kill and sacrifice for what's behind them and for their generations to come to preserve the culture and history...Don't misinterprete the NSCN as rebels...Kuknalim
Fake freedom fighters. They are looters ...
This is what NSCN does to its own tribe. Read some news ....
Activist abducted, tortured by NSCN-Isak Muivah faction for filing RTI application in Manipur
An attempt to expose the misappropriation of development funds in Senapati district, proved very costly for Kh. Enoch, a social activist from lower Phaibung village of Manipur.
Enoch along with P. Johnson of Taphon Phymai Village in Senapati district had sought information under RTI act on the dispersal of funds for various development projects, carried out by Autonomous District Council.
A sizable chunk of the funds meant for all Nagas were allegedly embezzled by some corrupt ADC members in collusion with senior leaders of NSCN/Isak-Muivah faction, and used for personal gain.
On January 20, armed cadres of the NSCN-Isak Muivah faction abducted Enoch and tortured him for daring to file an RTI in the matter. They kept him locked up for around 10 days at some unknown location and pressured him with death threats to withdraw the RTI.
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Where there are Missionaries there is Christian Nationalism, they were Converted in last 150 yrs by British missionaries & have lost their Traditions