2 of the greatest and most devastating Heavyweights of all time! Sonny Liston was George Foreman's idol, they had many sparring sessions together and Foreman was once quoted in saying "Liston stood up to me and actually made me give ground. No one has ever done that to me before or since." Big George and The Big Bear! www.patreon.com/haNZAgod
I am not putting down Liston at all he truly was a frightening fighter but the fact is Big George was only 19 years old at the time they were sparring.
Excellent video.Sonny Liston and George Foreman were the two most naturally strong men in heavyweight history.They were also the two most heavy-fisted punchers. I would back Liston to beat Foreman in an absolutely brutal fight as Sonny was also an excellent technician,
They don’t make heavyweight like that anymore . Men would be terrified to fight either of these complete savages the most brutal and intimated heavyweights of all time
I think that a lot of todays heavyweights still have that “killer instinct”. What they lack however is the will to go in the ring with someone they know can destroy them. Ali, Foreman, Liston, Frazier all those men took on absolute titans just to prove that they don’t back down from a challenge. I mean just the thrilla in Manila probably shortened both Ali’s and Frazier’s lives with atleast 10 years. If you do something like that you’re dead set on showing yourself and the world that you’re not scared of anything.
@@DeathWithinTenSteps the farther you go back into boxing, you realize how its changed from "fighting" to just sport. early 1900s boxers were animals, fighting 50-100 rounds. 5-20 fights every month. mid 1900s boxers became more "civilized", late 1900s boxing was a clear change in entertainment vs fighting, but boxers were still dogs. now early 2000s boxing is purely about entertainment and money. sad to see
@@irishscience580 Exactly. In Thaiboxing a lot of fighters are still real gladiators. It’s awe inspiring to see someone face an opponent that they know will bring a difficult and dangerous fight.
@@DeathWithinTenSteps tho the problem with Thai kickboxing is its somewhat corrupt organizations, there’s a reason Saenchai decided to fight else where. Tho I still give credit the Muay Thai and Dutch style kickboxers, truely terrfiying
Liston was a beast! Easily one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, cleared up the top 10 of the division before he even won the belt & had to wait that long he was last his prime when he finally got his shot & despatched Patterson inside a round.
@@lordburlap4514 doesn't matter lol Liston was never in his prime. He didn't train for fights properly. In and out of Jail. Bad style matchup,. There the 2nd fight. Injured his shoulder. Ali respected him more than Foreman
The two most intimidating fighters of all time. They have men beat before they got in the ring. Just looking into Liston's eyes was like being at the gates of Hell.
@@tikkitikkitembo148the fact that Patterson accepted the fight is also interesting. Everyone was telling him it was suicide and that Sonny didnt deserve a shot because he was a thug. Patterson told them "Everyone deserves a shot." and went in even though he knows he cant win.
@@wasabi5338 Insane how many people didn't want that fight to happen, Cus Damato spent ages denying that fight on grounds of Listons mafia connections, even Kennedy was telling Patterson not to take the fight. He got destroyed both times, but I've got huge respect for taking a fight he didn't have to, just on principle
I'm not taking anything away from Ali but people tend to forget that Liston was old as hell when he fought Ali. Liston's true age has always been a topic of debate but most historians have him around 40 years of age, while Ali was entering his prime. Again, I'm not trying to take away anything from The Greatest, just food for thought.
@@ReservoirPunk Yeah it always amazes me when people and medias say Sonny died at 32 of age. Like come on look at his rude face there is no way he was 32 at this time. There are pictures of him young u can tell right there he was at his early 30's, late 20's
Good video, song, and editing. The song fits the video pretty good. It sounds good and fits the theme. Forman and Liston are two legendary boxers. They were a couple of bad tough dudes. Good video.
These two looked like they broke something every time they landed a punch, even if it landed on their opponents' guard. They must have been some of the most physically powerful human beings of all time. These guys were knocking people out with glancing jabs that were harder than most people's power punches. Foreman winning a title at 45 years old is still one of the most significant accomplishments in sports. He retired with a record of 76-5 with 68 knockouts.
Both had power no modern fighter has. When you see these guys punching the heavybags, just compare them to the modern guys and you can see what real power is. They had freakish, nearly inhuman strength and power.
I don't think there's ever been a heavyweight of whom you could say, "Oh, he'd make light work of Sonny or George." Crazy to see what they do to those heavy bags, and then see them get in the ring knowing they're about to do that to a human being.
@@m0ng00se2 I respect Fury a little more because he does have the size the reach the ring IQ and decent punching power especially against guys from past decades who are so much smaller than him. Fury can actually get on his toes and box and be elusive. Tyson does not have that luxury. Fury has a 14 inch and 10 inch height advantage against Mike. Those are hard obstacles to overcome if they were pitted against each other in their primes.
@@m0ng00se2 I will say this I think big George walks right through Tyson fury and most likely kos him within six rounds. Styles make fights and fury if he stands his ground as Taylor made for big George.
When they sparred George was fresh out the Olympics with very limited amateur experience and Sonny was a seasoned former champion. Don't think it would have been what we would hope for but still would have been interesting 🤔
Man that is some scary stuff. No way anyone can face them head on at their primes. Would be an interesting matchup to see them face off but I put Sonny over Foreman if that did happen. Both are great though imho
Two of the scariest men you dont want to do business with in the ring.. orrr more like, you don't want them to give YOU the business...the monster checks under his bed for Liston, and his closet for Foreman..before he goes to bed with two eyes open
Sonny Liston was so technical. He was the first modern size heavyweight. He has the reach of Tyson Fury and he is very hard to hit. He puts so much pressure on you. I really think he would dominate today. He was way better than everyone of his era. Too bad he wasnt 10 years younger because if he were young in the 70s he would have gone down as one of the best ever.
They don’t know boxing …George was not slow ..it’s just his signature punches were throwing them very hard with all his force so it looked slow because it was his signature go too because he not tryna go rounds he tryna literally take your head off to where they can’t do nothing but stop the fight too find it
@@Theking-es9ie fr he wasn’t always putting on combinations he had that one hitta quitta so he had to lay it down sometimes in a few shots sometimes in just one, with how heavy them hands were man… it would be a crime to be real fast
They compare who the best puncher was. Liston was more scientific so he would hit you flush with more power. Foreman's punches were more wild and would knock you off your feet Foreman's more powerful but liston would hurt you more... George was faster on his feet. Like a fast moving mummy moving around the ring that would stalk and parry you with wild punches. Liston would pick his shots and hurt you better We never saw a younger Liston...but his first fights he was quick. Not as quick as foreman but could pick his shots better and win. Both intimidating in their era. Luckily George never went down the road liston did. The skill of Jimmy young is thanked for that
Speaking hypothetically I think that Liston would have beaten Foreman in a fight. Because Foreman in his prime didn’t have the conditioning Sonny Liston had. Foreman and Liston both had incredible power but Foreman’s punches were way too wide and wild in other words he would telegraph his punches and that would do no good against Liston who had a longer reach and his punches were more precise and accurate . Foreman would just go in the ring with the goal of demolishing his opponents and getting the fight over as quickly as possible but Liston would take his time and wait for the right moment to strike. It would have been a great fight if it happened but I believe that Liston would have won by knockout.
Agreed 100% he was basically just an advanced version of George Foreman not to mention how he was the original, He had much more skill his Battle IQ was greater his reflexes were significantly better, His footwork, Timing, Precision, And practically everything else was better they both had really similiar power but Sonny Liston exceeds Foreman in everything else by a significant amount.
Who do y’all think would win George or Liston ? My answer would be by decision ..because they both would extremely go at it I think they would give each other both a beating
I would say Foreman in a similar fight to him vs Lyle. Huge explosive brawl, multiple knockdowns, pure aggression, and little defense. But I don't know. It could also be a victory for Sonny too. It's a very hard fight to call, but in another universe where they were to face each other in their primes, I could definitely see it being Foreman vs Lyle-ish.
I think Sonny is the 2nd greatest heavyweight of all time behind Ali. I didn’t say greatest heavyweight champion…That goes to Joe Louis at #1 & Larry Holmes at #2 because of their actual TITLE REIGNS….And I think Sonny would’ve beaten George had they fought in their primes.Although both had power & could take punishment as well as trade blows,Sonny was a better boxer
Iron chin as well what can you do with a guy that can take your hardest punch but keeps coming at hitting with unbelievable power it must be frightening knowing no matter what you do he can smash you up. He was also a much better technician than what people thought
I don’t know who would win,but someone is going to get KNOCKED OUT! I might give Liston the slight edge because of his jab and superior reach (7 feet)!
It's a 50/50 fight but I'd give the slight edge to Liston because he was the more well-rounded of the 2 and generally had better boxing skills. Foreman could have stopped him though it's just a tough one to call.
To my knowledge there is no true documentation of how old Liston was , I wish he had fought Marciano, now that would of been tasty. I would of gone for Liston to win that one.
VERY INTRIGUING match up. I assume we are talking young George here. I don't know how to call this one. They are even in about everything except I feel Sonny was more seasoned, more polished and a better defensive fighter. George a little bigger and Stronger physically. Both had telephone Jabs and the devastating power of each goes without saying. Both are mean intimidators. I really can't call this one. Put a gun to my head I may lean slightly towards Liston because in my view he is a bit less likely to unravel and keep his composure and stamina if the fight gets out of the first 3 rounds and he has better skills on the inside, defense and rolling with punches, but I don't make this pick lightly. Could go either way.
IDK about that strength part. Both Foreman and Liston used to take turns pushing up a wheel barrow full of '100 pounds of cement' up a long inclined hill. Foreman was only able do it 1 time. Liston was able to do it not once but 3 times. Foreman said he was in shock by Listons strength who was very much old by that time. While some may argue that was a young Foreman, Liston on the other hand was pretty old. Also, Muhammad Ali, Chuck Wepner, and George Johnson all stated that Liston hit harder than Foreman. I think Foreman's advantage is his heart. He's been shown to be able to recover after being floored.
@@brendanfrost2475 that's an interesting story about the wheelbarrow one that I've never heard before I would not sell liston short on heart. If you disregard the fights with ali, it is said that he fought the second half of a fight with Marty Marshall with a broken jaw. That takes a lot of heart.
@@dmt9582 Nah the 2nd fight with Ali is obviously questionable. As great as Ali is, he is not known for his punching power nor one punch kos. Liston has an ATG chin, you have to wear him down to ko him.
@@brendanfrost2475 couple things about that. If you watch closely and I mean very closely at the end of the second fight Sonny Liston is definitely dizzy. When they are announcing the winner the camera is on him he goes to take a step forward and loses his balance slightly. I'm not saying that right hand was enough to knock him out because it didn't. He got up and was fighting before Walcott stopped it. I agreed there is something fishy with that fight but it does not need to be a crushing punch as much as one that you don't see. Liston was lunging with a jab and had one foot off the canvas and did not see the right hand that hit him right on the temple. I've had this debate hundreds of times. Not to mention there is always a dispute at how old Sonny Liston was. I've heard rumors that he was as old as mid-40s by that fight.
The thing is no one truly knows as their power was immensely similar not to mention how it has yet to be confirmed as to who hits harder than who so it's safe to say it's either a stalemate or a close call.
@@hanzagod foremen destroys any Heavyweight at his best vs their best outside of Ali. Jimmy young woulda lost a rematch, just like Ali would have lost a rematch. Foreman wouldn’t make the same mistake twice tiring himself out plus Ali wasn’t in his prime. Joe Louis Tyson Lennox sonny Liston rocky All of lose to foreman their best vs foreman’s best.
They were real monsters.however Mike Tyson impresses me more for three reasons: 1 same power with much more speed 2 tonnage: they were physically giants compared to their opponents Tyson no 3 reach Tyson had a reach of 180 cm and was very good at shortening the distance like Joe Frazier or Marciano with thedifference that could hit you hard even from medium distance.
There's always one in the comments that believes Tyson is better than Foreman and Liston. It never fails. Tyson was made perfect stylistically for both of them especially Big George.
@@msw8966 Instead for me Foreman was perfect for Iron Mike. Make the mistake of comparing Tyson to Frazier.frazier was advancing with his head back and forth, Tyson advancing compactly with the whole body, Frazier was very strong at very short distance, Tyson was very strong even from medium distance, he could strike you from a distance, look at the first right with which he KO Holmes from where it has begun. Plus Tyson changed the sagittal plane, hit from unusual angles and was more powerful and faster than Frazier. In addition to the left hook he had the combination hook to the body and uppercut to the chin with the right.
@@97iron64 Completely disagree. The fact is Big George had a much better chin then Larry Holmes and Tyson opening up I'm bored would have only encouraged towards to keep punching and hurting - eventually koing him. Cus said it himself he told Mike when he was a teenager that George Foreman style was all wrong for the peekaboo defense. Cus never dream that foreman would make a comeback. In 1990 the biggest fight in boxing history that could be made at the time was Foreman versus Tyson! Why do you think that never happened? Big George wanted it he wanted that more than anything that's why he came back he saw a man who was Taylor made for him. George Foreman is the most underrated heavyweight of all time.
@@msw8966 Cus worked on Mike's psychology and also said Foreman's head was an easy-to-hit lantern in the dark. Plus, in the 90's they didn't fight because Foreman turned down Don King's $ 5 million offer because he didn't trust Don. then also Tyson had a good chin look what he kept from Ruddock who in my opinion was almost as strong as a young Big George. Foreman in the second half of his career did not meet the strongest punches in the division. Plus when he was young Foreman went down with Jimmy Young and Ron Lyle thinks if he was hit by Mike. Holmes has an incredible chin he lost by KO only to Mike and this gives an idea of Mike's power.
Liston was not in his prime and Foreman was not hurt; he was tired and his corner told him to stay down, by the time he got up at the count of 8, the ref said it's over.
I guess the true story of how foreman hit sonny in the groin and sonny told Dick Sadler tell him not to do that again. He did it again and sonny put him on the canvas That’s from Dick Sadler
2 of the greatest and most devastating Heavyweights of all time! Sonny Liston was George Foreman's idol, they had many sparring sessions together and Foreman was once quoted in saying "Liston stood up to me and actually made me give ground. No one has ever done that to me before or since." Big George and The Big Bear! www.patreon.com/haNZAgod
I am not putting down Liston at all he truly was a frightening fighter but the fact is Big George was only 19 years old at the time they were sparring.
Devastating punchers both of them. That quote from George must of been before he fought Ronnie Lyle .
Is it any footage of they sparring?
Excellent video.Sonny Liston and George Foreman were the two most naturally strong men in heavyweight history.They were also the two most heavy-fisted punchers.
I would back Liston to beat Foreman in an absolutely brutal fight as Sonny was also an excellent technician,
@TurnedLeftAtTheRockyMountains Ali always maintained that Rocky Marciano would have given him his toughest fight. Cus D'Amato thought the same as well
They don’t make heavyweight like that anymore . Men would be terrified to fight either of these complete savages the most brutal and intimated heavyweights of all time
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I think that a lot of todays heavyweights still have that “killer instinct”. What they lack however is the will to go in the ring with someone they know can destroy them. Ali, Foreman, Liston, Frazier all those men took on absolute titans just to prove that they don’t back down from a challenge. I mean just the thrilla in Manila probably shortened both Ali’s and Frazier’s lives with atleast 10 years. If you do something like that you’re dead set on showing yourself and the world that you’re not scared of anything.
@@DeathWithinTenSteps the farther you go back into boxing, you realize how its changed from "fighting" to just sport. early 1900s boxers were animals, fighting 50-100 rounds. 5-20 fights every month. mid 1900s boxers became more "civilized", late 1900s boxing was a clear change in entertainment vs fighting, but boxers were still dogs. now early 2000s boxing is purely about entertainment and money. sad to see
@@irishscience580 Exactly. In Thaiboxing a lot of fighters are still real gladiators. It’s awe inspiring to see someone face an opponent that they know will bring a difficult and dangerous fight.
@@DeathWithinTenSteps tho the problem with Thai kickboxing is its somewhat corrupt organizations, there’s a reason Saenchai decided to fight else where.
Tho I still give credit the Muay Thai and Dutch style kickboxers, truely terrfiying
Two Heavyweight juggernauts
Liston was a beast! Easily one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, cleared up the top 10 of the division before he even won the belt & had to wait that long he was last his prime when he finally got his shot & despatched Patterson inside a round.
Two of the baddest men to ever walk the EARTH.
If you had these two guys at your side there isn’t a place on this planet that you would feel a sense of fear. My god they got your back.
It's just insane to me how easily George Foreman dispatched both Norton and Frazier in just 2 Rounds
That shows how powerful the man could hit.
And also how liston destroys floyd Patterson
And how Ali beat him.
@@lordburlap4514 doesn't matter lol Liston was never in his prime. He didn't train for fights properly. In and out of Jail. Bad style matchup,. There the 2nd fight. Injured his shoulder. Ali respected him more than Foreman
It matters a lot....Ali beat Liston twice...excuses are for losers.
The two most intimidating fighters of all time. They have men beat before they got in the ring. Just looking into Liston's eyes was like being at the gates of Hell.
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you look on him and you know he will give you DAMAGE
The shot of Liston and Paterson shaking hands is super interesting. Looks like an adult holding an infant's hand...
Theres a great picture of his fist next to one of the Monkees hands and it's just astounding to see the stark difference between the two
@@tikkitikkitembo148the fact that Patterson accepted the fight is also interesting.
Everyone was telling him it was suicide and that Sonny didnt deserve a shot because he was a thug. Patterson told them "Everyone deserves a shot." and went in even though he knows he cant win.
@@wasabi5338 Insane how many people didn't want that fight to happen, Cus Damato spent ages denying that fight on grounds of Listons mafia connections, even Kennedy was telling Patterson not to take the fight. He got destroyed both times, but I've got huge respect for taking a fight he didn't have to, just on principle
Says a lot about Ail's resume that he holds knockout victories against these 2 All Time greats
Fake victories
I'm not taking anything away from Ali but people tend to forget that Liston was old as hell when he fought Ali. Liston's true age has always been a topic of debate but most historians have him around 40 years of age, while Ali was entering his prime. Again, I'm not trying to take away anything from The Greatest, just food for thought.
@@ReservoirPunk And ali was a little bit older when he BEAT Foreman
@@magnus263 not taking anything from Ali either but people forget how hard earned was that win.
@@ReservoirPunk Yeah it always amazes me when people and medias say Sonny died at 32 of age. Like come on look at his rude face there is no way he was 32 at this time. There are pictures of him young u can tell right there he was at his early 30's, late 20's
Just imagine if these two men fought eachother.... the ferocity of the bout and the power of their hits would have been enough to split atoms.
Haha great description
My two favorite boxers!! RIP Sonny...
To me George foreman is the only man that sent chills down my spine well looking at his stare down with Joe.
They’re not Boxing. They’re performing an amputation. Spiritually demoralizing striking power.
You’re edits are a boon to the sport. Love you bro 💯
i believe Liston was a mentor to Foreman, but also, Foreman said Liston was the scariest, most intimidating man he ever met
And the strongest too
Liston - A Legend
1.Liston 2.Foreman 3.Tyson are the most intimidating heavyweights of all time, Sonny beats them all in my opinion.
Tyson and Foreman both said the same thing.
Jack dempshy?
Agree
I agree u can throw in Dempsey also
Pure Destroyers.
Another jewel of a vid, Hanzagod!
Destructors and destroyers. The most frightening sluggers in modern boxing history.
Good video, song, and editing. The song fits the video pretty good. It sounds good and fits the theme. Forman and Liston are two legendary boxers. They were a couple of bad tough dudes. Good video.
Patterson looked at Liston's hands and said oh shit! 🤣
Most People have no idea of The power that Liston and Foreman had in their fists,it was something out of this world!
If it were possible to intimidate a heavy bag, I believe these 2 guys could pull it off.👍🏿🥊
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I’d hate to be in Patterson or Frazier shoes getting hit with that power✨😵💫🥊 Great highlights 👍👍
Prime Frazier is really tough
And just to think when he was very young Foreman was a Liston sparring partner.
These two looked like they broke something every time they landed a punch, even if it landed on their opponents' guard. They must have been some of the most physically powerful human beings of all time. These guys were knocking people out with glancing jabs that were harder than most people's power punches. Foreman winning a title at 45 years old is still one of the most significant accomplishments in sports. He retired with a record of 76-5 with 68 knockouts.
Two great champions. Two of the most powerful boxers in the boxing history.
My two most favourite fighters of all time.
THIS IS BRILLIANT, GREAT JOB 👍🏻
two greatest intimidators 😈🥊
My number one all time fantasy fight
Same here.
Mike Tyson vs Young George Foreman.... Think Tyson vs Razor Rudduck but MORE vicious!! If that's possible
@@dmt9582 Boxing's nuclear war !
Great vid. Thank you 🙏
Two great champions, characterized by fightening power!
they are born to fight, i never saw better body and mind to doing boxing :D they are real life superman
Both had power no modern fighter has. When you see these guys punching the heavybags, just compare them to the modern guys and you can see what real power is. They had freakish, nearly inhuman strength and power.
foreman vs frazier looking identical to liston vs patterson :D
Just amazing❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥🥊 hard way
Oh yeah another old school video!
Sonny Liston reach was not normal dudes arms go past his knees
84 inch wingspan at 6’1 lol, Tyson Fury 6’9 with an 85
Please make more vids on Sonny Liston your edits are the best
I've got sooo many there's not much more I can do haha
Quality reels
I don't think there's ever been a heavyweight of whom you could say, "Oh, he'd make light work of Sonny or George."
Crazy to see what they do to those heavy bags, and then see them get in the ring knowing they're about to do that to a human being.
I hear it from delusional fans about Mike Tyson constantly.
@@m0ng00se2 I respect Fury a little more because he does have the size the reach the ring IQ and decent punching power especially against guys from past decades who are so much smaller than him. Fury can actually get on his toes and box and be elusive. Tyson does not have that luxury. Fury has a 14 inch and 10 inch height advantage against Mike. Those are hard obstacles to overcome if they were pitted against each other in their primes.
@@m0ng00se2 I will say this I think big George walks right through Tyson fury and most likely kos him within six rounds. Styles make fights and fury if he stands his ground as Taylor made for big George.
@@m0ng00se2 thank you for being realistic.
@@m0ng00se2 TYSON FURY LMFAOOOO
George use to chop trees for training. If you box and you want crushing power. Start chopping trees
Use a sledgehammer or an old good axe or both and you will create punching power from hell
AWESOME 💣
If only there was any footage of them sparring. Jeez.
When they sparred George was fresh out the Olympics with very limited amateur experience and Sonny was a seasoned former champion. Don't think it would have been what we would hope for but still would have been interesting 🤔
two greatest boxers :D
A GREAT TITLE 👍🏻
Man that is some scary stuff. No way anyone can face them head on at their primes. Would be an interesting matchup to see them face off but I put Sonny over Foreman if that did happen. Both are great though imho
Two of the scariest men you dont want to do business with in the ring.. orrr more like, you don't want them to give YOU the business...the monster checks under his bed for Liston, and his closet for Foreman..before he goes to bed with two eyes open
Sonny Liston was so technical. He was the first modern size heavyweight. He has the reach of Tyson Fury and he is very hard to hit. He puts so much pressure on you. I really think he would dominate today. He was way better than everyone of his era. Too bad he wasnt 10 years younger because if he were young in the 70s he would have gone down as one of the best ever.
Brutal
People always say big George is so slow but look at him at 3:48! That is a fighter that when he hurts you he will finish you devastatingly.
They don’t know boxing …George was not slow ..it’s just his signature punches were throwing them very hard with all his force so it looked slow because it was his signature go too because he not tryna go rounds he tryna literally take your head off to where they can’t do nothing but stop the fight too find it
@@Theking-es9ie fr he wasn’t always putting on combinations he had that one hitta quitta so he had to lay it down sometimes in a few shots sometimes in just one, with how heavy them hands were man… it would be a crime to be real fast
They compare who the best puncher was. Liston was more scientific so he would hit you flush with more power. Foreman's punches were more wild and would knock you off your feet
Foreman's more powerful but liston would hurt you more...
George was faster on his feet. Like a fast moving mummy moving around the ring that would stalk and parry you with wild punches. Liston would pick his shots and hurt you better
We never saw a younger Liston...but his first fights he was quick. Not as quick as foreman but could pick his shots better and win.
Both intimidating in their era. Luckily George never went down the road liston did. The skill of Jimmy young is thanked for that
His fists are massive
two the best boxers in history 1. sonny 2. foreman :D
Me hubiera gustado ver a Foreman con veintipocos año peleando con la pausa, técnica y precisión con la que lo hizo en los 90s
Boooooom ❤it
Dawg I need to know the beat
Vicious
BEASTZ!!!
Can you do highlights of juniorwitter
Speaking hypothetically I think that Liston would have beaten Foreman in a fight. Because Foreman in his prime didn’t have the conditioning Sonny Liston had. Foreman and Liston both had incredible power but Foreman’s punches were way too wide and wild in other words he would telegraph his punches and that would do no good against Liston who had a longer reach and his punches were more precise and accurate . Foreman would just go in the ring with the goal of demolishing his opponents and getting the fight over as quickly as possible but Liston would take his time and wait for the right moment to strike. It would have been a great fight if it happened but I believe that Liston would have won by knockout.
100% agreed
Agreed 100% he was basically just an advanced version of George Foreman not to mention how he was the original, He had much more skill his Battle IQ was greater his reflexes were significantly better, His footwork, Timing, Precision, And practically everything else was better they both had really similiar power but Sonny Liston exceeds Foreman in everything else by a significant amount.
Who do y’all think would win George or Liston ?
My answer would be by decision ..because they both would extremely go at it I think they would give each other both a beating
Heart says Foreman,
Brain says Liston.
I would say Foreman in a similar fight to him vs Lyle. Huge explosive brawl, multiple knockdowns, pure aggression, and little defense. But I don't know. It could also be a victory for Sonny too. It's a very hard fight to call, but in another universe where they were to face each other in their primes, I could definitely see it being Foreman vs Lyle-ish.
@@MZ-zu7wk Liston had more in his pocket than Lyle, he wasnt just another slugger.
I think Sonny is the 2nd greatest heavyweight of all time behind Ali. I didn’t say greatest heavyweight champion…That goes to Joe Louis at #1 & Larry Holmes at #2 because of their actual TITLE REIGNS….And I think Sonny would’ve beaten George had they fought in their primes.Although both had power & could take punishment as well as trade blows,Sonny was a better boxer
2 monsters
two scariest boxers
Iron chin as well what can you do with a guy that can take your hardest punch but keeps coming at hitting with unbelievable power it must be frightening knowing no matter what you do he can smash you up. He was also a much better technician than what people thought
Hey can anyone list some all time great pressure fighters
Henry Armstrong would probably be the best but there are too many to name Chavez, Frazier, Pryor, Duran, Harada etc.
@@hanzagod thank you
Music?
Tor - Drum Therapy
I don’t know who would win,but someone is going to get KNOCKED OUT!
I might give Liston the slight edge because of his jab and superior reach (7 feet)!
I would probably bet George
I would possibly .....beat......George 😂
SONNY LISTON JOE FRAZIER GEORGE FOREMAN AND MIKE TYSON have to be the most hardest hitters in boxing history 💯💯💯
Don't forget Earnie Shavers
Earnie shavers, Julian Jackson, Gerald mcellen, Joe louis list can go on
Lennox Lewis and Joe Louis BOTH big punchers
@@michaelcorvin951 oh hell yeah he hit ali the hardest
@@Tigerjasper yep, but Foreman and Liston were physically strongest men Ali ever fought
not gonna lie foreman punchoing technique was quiet bad, but his punch placement and timing was excellent
Lol. How was his punching technique bad...?
Did Frazier take flight fckin hell
Sonny Liston vs George foreman who wins ?
It's a 50/50 fight but I'd give the slight edge to Liston because he was the more well-rounded of the 2 and generally had better boxing skills. Foreman could have stopped him though it's just a tough one to call.
george to me looks like he fights with oven mitts filled with concrete
Liston VS Marciano-- who you got?
Liston TKO win on cuts in a rough, tough competitive fight.
@@hanzagod It would have been a brutal dog fight, Gatti/ Ward in black and white.
Liston early but Marciano if it goes past 5 and his face can hold up
George foreman & mike tyson vicious intentions
If I was a gambling man I would put everything I own on Liston.
Excellent bet since he was at one point totally controlled by the mob. The man was a gentle giant, actually... until well... obviously.
To my knowledge there is no true documentation of how old Liston was , I wish he had fought
Marciano, now that would of been tasty. I would of gone for Liston to win that one.
Marciano retired before Liston really had any notable fights but in terms of a fantasy fight that's a great one! I'd pick Liston too.
Tyson Fury would have gotten the Gypsy knocked out of him by either of these two Champs 🥊🥊
Ambos foram nocauteados pelo ali
VERY INTRIGUING match up. I assume we are talking young George here. I don't know how to call this one. They are even in about everything except I feel Sonny was more seasoned, more polished and a better defensive fighter. George a little bigger and Stronger physically. Both had telephone Jabs and the devastating power of each goes without saying. Both are mean intimidators. I really can't call this one. Put a gun to my head I may lean slightly towards Liston because in my view he is a bit less likely to unravel and keep his composure and stamina if the fight gets out of the first 3 rounds and he has better skills on the inside, defense and rolling with punches, but I don't make this pick lightly. Could go either way.
IDK about that strength part. Both Foreman and Liston used to take turns pushing up a wheel barrow full of '100 pounds of cement' up a long inclined hill. Foreman was only able do it 1 time. Liston was able to do it not once but 3 times. Foreman said he was in shock by Listons strength who was very much old by that time.
While some may argue that was a young Foreman, Liston on the other hand was pretty old. Also, Muhammad Ali, Chuck Wepner, and George Johnson all stated that Liston hit harder than Foreman.
I think Foreman's advantage is his heart. He's been shown to be able to recover after being floored.
@@brendanfrost2475 that's an interesting story about the wheelbarrow one that I've never heard before I would not sell liston short on heart. If you disregard the fights with ali, it is said that he fought the second half of a fight with Marty Marshall with a broken jaw. That takes a lot of heart.
@@dmt9582 Nah the 2nd fight with Ali is obviously questionable. As great as Ali is, he is not known for his punching power nor one punch kos. Liston has an ATG chin, you have to wear him down to ko him.
@@brendanfrost2475 couple things about that. If you watch closely and I mean very closely at the end of the second fight Sonny Liston is definitely dizzy. When they are announcing the winner the camera is on him he goes to take a step forward and loses his balance slightly. I'm not saying that right hand was enough to knock him out because it didn't. He got up and was fighting before Walcott stopped it. I agreed there is something fishy with that fight but it does not need to be a crushing punch as much as one that you don't see. Liston was lunging with a jab and had one foot off the canvas and did not see the right hand that hit him right on the temple. I've had this debate hundreds of times. Not to mention there is always a dispute at how old Sonny Liston was. I've heard rumors that he was as old as mid-40s by that fight.
@@brendanfrost2475 also, other than Cleveland Williams, or maybe leotis Martin at the very end whoever had the courage to test Sonny's chin?
Yeah thats right but they never officially fought eachother
Question;
Who is the hardest puncher between the two?
Liston's left hook but Foreman's right hand. It's pretty tough to separate them!
The thing is no one truly knows as their power was immensely similar not to mention how it has yet to be confirmed as to who hits harder than who so it's safe to say it's either a stalemate or a close call.
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2 heavy hitters. 100. Ali beat them both.
George foreman 2nd greatest HW of all times. Flattens any heavyweight in his prime besides Ali
Jimmy Young?
@@hanzagod foremen destroys any Heavyweight at his best vs their best outside of Ali. Jimmy young woulda lost a rematch, just like Ali would have lost a rematch. Foreman wouldn’t make the same mistake twice tiring himself out plus Ali wasn’t in his prime. Joe Louis Tyson Lennox sonny Liston rocky All of lose to foreman their best vs foreman’s best.
@@surveying482 All I'm saying is your theory was wrong because Foreman was still in his prime against Young and lost.
@@hanzagod there’s a reason they didn’t rematch foreman. They woulda lost, he doesn’t make the same mistake twice.
@@surveying482 The reason there wasn't a Young-Foreman rematch is because Foreman retired after the loss. He didn't want it.
And Ali win both of them, that is an idea of how great he was
Mike Tyson who ?
They were real monsters.however Mike Tyson impresses me more for three reasons: 1 same power with much more speed 2 tonnage: they were physically giants compared to their opponents Tyson no 3 reach Tyson had a reach of 180 cm and was very good at shortening the distance like Joe Frazier or Marciano with thedifference that could hit you hard even from medium distance.
Except Forman and Liston had longevity: they carried their power and ability long past their respective primes
There's always one in the comments that believes Tyson is better than Foreman and Liston. It never fails. Tyson was made perfect stylistically for both of them especially Big George.
@@msw8966 Instead for me Foreman was perfect for Iron Mike. Make the mistake of comparing Tyson to Frazier.frazier was advancing with his head back and forth, Tyson advancing compactly with the whole body, Frazier was very strong at very short distance, Tyson was very strong even from medium distance, he could strike you from a distance, look at the first right with which he KO Holmes from where it has begun. Plus Tyson changed the sagittal plane, hit from unusual angles and was more powerful and faster than Frazier. In addition to the left hook he had the combination hook to the body and uppercut to the chin with the right.
@@97iron64 Completely disagree. The fact is Big George had a much better chin then Larry Holmes and Tyson opening up I'm bored would have only encouraged towards to keep punching and hurting - eventually koing him. Cus said it himself he told Mike when he was a teenager that George Foreman style was all wrong for the peekaboo defense. Cus never dream that foreman would make a comeback. In 1990 the biggest fight in boxing history that could be made at the time was Foreman versus Tyson! Why do you think that never happened? Big George wanted it he wanted that more than anything that's why he came back he saw a man who was Taylor made for him. George Foreman is the most underrated heavyweight of all time.
@@msw8966 Cus worked on Mike's psychology and also said Foreman's head was an easy-to-hit lantern in the dark. Plus, in the 90's they didn't fight because Foreman turned down Don King's $ 5 million offer because he didn't trust Don. then also Tyson had a good chin look what he kept from Ruddock who in my opinion was almost as strong as a young Big George. Foreman in the second half of his career did not meet the strongest punches in the division. Plus when he was young Foreman went down with Jimmy Young and Ron Lyle thinks if he was hit by Mike. Holmes has an incredible chin he lost by KO only to Mike and this gives an idea of Mike's power.
And Ali won against by KO to those boxers at their prime. That is why he is the greatest of all times.
Liston was not in his prime and Foreman was not hurt; he was tired and his corner told him to stay down, by the time he got up at the count of 8, the ref said it's over.
I guess the true story of how foreman hit sonny in the groin and sonny told Dick Sadler tell him not to do that again. He did it again and sonny put him on the canvas That’s from Dick Sadler
Dick said a lot about foreman before he died, not much of it nice and not much of it can be proven true. As a fan of both.
Sonny put him on the floor after hitting him in the balls twice