Stephen K Hayes, the American Ninja tells his story of finding the Grand Master in Japan

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  • @LoneStarRocker
    @LoneStarRocker 3 года назад +14

    I still have my Ninja magazines from the 80's. Foot sweep!

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      @InfernoCast  3 года назад

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    • @shogun_arasaka
      @shogun_arasaka 3 года назад

      That's how Hayes told all his bullshit.

    • @jf6414
      @jf6414 3 года назад

      Me 2....

  • @beelthazus
    @beelthazus 4 года назад +11

    This has gotta be my favorite episode so far. I definitely was one of those kids back in the early 2000s who was inspired by Stephen Hayes books and insights into the very shadowy, esoteric underbelly of the Ninjutsu world. He's so humble and forthcoming with his knowledge. You can see he is embodying the change he wants to see in the martial arts community, especially within ninjutsu.

    • @Kthomasritchie
      @Kthomasritchie 2 года назад +1

      He's a fucking fraud. But, congratulations on helping make him a very wealthy man.

  • @unknown_amazing_chap4480
    @unknown_amazing_chap4480 3 года назад +11

    Stephen Hayes is great! I have studied Bujinkan Ninjutsu for 11 years. His books has started it all for me years ago. They are great on the teachings of Ninpo. He is an awesome Ninja teacher. However he is the first American IGA Ninja. But There were also American Koga Ninja back in those days. Ronald Duncan was also one of the first Koga Ninja.
    I have studied Bujinkan/Togakure Ryu Ninjutsu for years and have also studied a bit of Koga Ryu Ninjutsu for a while and have discovered the secret that most of our Bujinkan people don't even know: Koga Ryu Ninjutsu is real, it exists and they study the same technique that we do! Exactly the same! Taijutsu, Dakentaijutsu, Koppojutsu, koshijutsu, taihenjutsu, jutaijutsu, hiken-juroppo, Shoten no jutsu, sui-ren, shurikenjutsu, intonjutsu, gotonpo and everything else! Koga is real and it must be respected!

    • @EyeSawItToo
      @EyeSawItToo 2 года назад +1

      Facts

    • @Kthomasritchie
      @Kthomasritchie 2 года назад

      Wouldn't you rather learn how to fight?

    • @unknown_amazing_chap4480
      @unknown_amazing_chap4480 2 года назад

      @@Kthomasritchie , that depends on what fighting is to you. Maybe you think it's in an MMA ring or in a boxing ring. That's fine. You are entitled to your own opinion. But to me, a fight is a matter of life and death, not for fun nor sports. If someone is a threat, l will do what must be done to survive and l will do it quickly.
      I am not interested in winning a trophy nor in being a champion. Just to survive and to live and see another day.
      l live in a neighborhood where there are gangsters and drug addicts lurking around. People get mugged. So to me, a fight means to finish off an attacker quickly and head home to see my loved ones.Thats all. I was once attacked by a few thugs and l finished them off in the street within a few minutes, using what we call "Taisabaki and Taijutsu" which is evasion and unarmed combat skills. I then just walked away calmly, without a scratch. To me the whole thing felt like everything happened in slow motion. However, a friend approached and saw the whole thing and said l moved with blinding speed. He asked me "How where you able to move so fast, why couldn't they hold or grab you?". I just said "Evade and be sensitive to the flow of energy."
      A few years ago l was also attacked by an aggressor who was so strong, in fact, that he lifted me right up into the air, with his two hands as he choked my neck as he stood in front of me. I hung like a rag doll. I calmly grabbed onto his hair with my one hand, so that he couldn't throw me because if he moved, he would suffer more pain on the scalp, and with the other hand, l gouged his eye. I stuck my thumb right into his eye socket and actually felt the inside of his skull, as my thumb moved his eyeball to the side. He fell to the ground, screaming in pain. Holding on to his eye socket and trying to keep the eye ball inside of his head. I calmly walked away and survived another attack and l did not even have to break his leg or dislocate his shoulder. Just using a finger was enough.
      I always carry some shuriken throwing stars in my wallet, for self defense and a weighted fighting chain tucked in my belt, under my denim jacket, but l did not even have to take those out to defend myself.
      So, to me, it's about survival and doing the most amount of damage, with the least amount of effort. And that is what l have learned in Ninjutsu.
      So, to answer your question: I never wanted to learn how to fight but rather how to quickly end a fight and send an attacker on his way to the hospital, while at the same time teaching him that being a mugger or attacker is not as beneficial as it seems. In other words, To disable his body while changing his mindset about messing with people who are minding their own business.
      You see the truth is that on the streets, you never know whom you are dealing with. Just because l don't walk around in a Ninja suit in public, doesn't mean that l don't have the years of training!
      To see what my personal opinion and my view of a fight is, click this link. You will see that it has absolutely nothing to do with fighting or competing in a ring:
      ruclips.net/video/kiWMhwctsms/видео.html

    • @Kthomasritchie
      @Kthomasritchie 2 года назад

      @@unknown_amazing_chap4480 1. I don't believe you. 2. I watched your clip. Looks like typical moves you'd see down any McDojo. Oh what a surprise, the attacker just stands there like a dummy, while the ninja dances around him with all the time in the world. None of it resembles anything close to a real fight. The only way to learn how to fight is by fighting. You need to at least spar. Funnily enough, that's not something ninjutsu does. Why don't you post some clips of hard sparring in ninjutsu???

  • @dianecenteno5275
    @dianecenteno5275 3 года назад +5

    Started attending his seminars in the late 80's and still listen to him today! Great episode!

  • @mysterybodhi
    @mysterybodhi 3 года назад +5

    This is excellent people. Great questions from the interviewer for Stephen, and some honest answers by Stephen for the audience. I think Master Stephen has aged well and shown some wisdom for younger people learning martial arts and ninpo. Great job from the interviewer for asking critical questions to Master Hayes.

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      @InfernoCast  3 года назад

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  • @alancalleja
    @alancalleja 3 года назад +1

    Never get tired of mr. Hayes stories and wisdom.

  • @dartharid3778
    @dartharid3778 3 года назад +5

    I’m learning ninjitsu right now from two of his students

  • @jameshopkins5702
    @jameshopkins5702 3 года назад

    How are you doing sir. I am the son of grandmaster Hopkins. I believe you know my father I have your book. I just wanted to let you know my father passed away. It was great having you as a guest

  • @gregoryshrader8911
    @gregoryshrader8911 2 года назад

    Congratulations sensei I've learned more from you and dr. Hatsumi than I will ever be able to repay the both of you for its..great to see ya and hear of your latest success my friend.

  • @johnlee4249
    @johnlee4249 3 года назад +2

    Great interview with An-Shu Hayes, thank you InfernoCast for sharing.

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  • @seraphinaaizen6278
    @seraphinaaizen6278 3 года назад +4

    Ninjutsu is essentially a modern invention. As a martial art, it doesn't really "exist" as such. Ninjutsu is famous for having no coherent of consistent structure. Some ninjutsu schools will teach techniques lifted from judo or karate and call it "ninjutsu", while most simply amount to enthusiastic cosplay. The reason being that everyone teaching it is essentially making it up as they go along. It isn't reviving any kind of ancient knowledge or techniques, it's largely the individual teacher's interpretation of what they THINK those ancient techniques might have been. There's a reason why it's almost impossible to find anyone demonstrating alleged techniques from ninjutsu in a practical setting. I'm curious, for example, why none of the alleged bouts where he proved ninjutsu's efficacy over other martial arts have been caught on film. Or, for that matter, why no other ninjutsu practitioner has been shown doing the same.
    I've seen lots of footage of Hayes at work. And every single thing I've ever seen him do is the same compliant demonstrations against unresisting students, where they will throw a single slow motion punch or at most a choreographed one-two combination, and then stand there like a mannequin while he demonstrates a technique that the student dutifully cooperates with and offers no resistance against. Just like you see in every other style of bullshido out there.
    There's a reason for that.
    Literally the only footage I can think of where a ninjutsu practitioner is shown trying to use their style practically, it's in a gym challenge against a TKD fighter, where the TKD fighter wins overwhelmingly.
    Bujinkan, the martial art that Mr Hayes learned in Japan, was founded in 1970 with a backstory that was essentially lifted from pop culture rather than reality (it's worth noting that there's no version of ninjutsu that can trace it's roots to before the 20th century. Although they ALL claim to be using techniques preserved over the centuries).

    • @TheMelloMunsta5
      @TheMelloMunsta5 2 года назад +1

      I can understand this standpoint. And yet, Im currently learning from one of his students...but wait a sec...MY teacher, served in the millitary, fought in Iraq, and was high ranking in psychological warfare...has taught police academies other military personel etc...he learned ToShinDo BEFORE serving in the millitary and teaches other martial arts such as Silat, Tomoi kickboxing, Kali...He even brings in other masters of arts, such as BJJ as well as others...So if he is aware and has experienced and mastered arts that people agree are "legit"...Why would my Sensei SWEAR BY and still teach ToShinDo?? Keep in mind this doesn't even involve the other retired military and MARINES that are Sensei's of mine and train in this. I find myself saying this alot: ITS OK! at 28 and training, when I gain the credentials to teach, I plan to legitimately prove the self defense value of this art via RUclips! Since being a combat veteran that has used this against people trying to kill him doesn't seem to be enough lol smh

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 2 года назад +1

      @@TheMelloMunsta5 "Why would my Sensei SWEAR BY and still teach ToShinDo??"
      Because it is perfectly possible for otherwise rational people to hold wholly irrational positions on a particular subject; especially if that subject is near and dear to their heart.
      Your teacher might have an irrational view of ToShinDo, and think it's more legitimate than it is. Or YOU might have an irrational view of your teacher, and think H'ES more legitimate than he is.
      "But my sensie..." is one of the most common phrases in the apologist handbook. Where the egregiously brainwashed student will offer up excuses for how effective their style is based on no other reason than the supposed efficacy of their hero worshipped teacher. And the extreme lack of any actual foundation of evidence of any style of ninjutsu being....well....real, frankly....doesn't sway them.
      "Since being a combat veteran that has used this against people trying to kill him doesn't seem to be enough"
      I don't believe you.

    • @Kthomasritchie
      @Kthomasritchie 2 года назад +1

      @@TheMelloMunsta5 Life in the McDojo.

  • @milanmilicev
    @milanmilicev 3 года назад +1

    Hi Caleb, just wanted to say that you are one of the best interviewers I've seen, really great questions and comments. I've been practicing ninjutsu for 19 years and I've really enjoyed this talk you did with Stephen Hayes. Keep up the good work.

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  • @kellzfargo9639
    @kellzfargo9639 3 года назад +2

    If you liked this interview it’s only right you research Ronald Duncan. Great interview!

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  • @mikezaino9137
    @mikezaino9137 3 года назад +2

    Excellent interview. Great questions.

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  • @kennithdupree7534
    @kennithdupree7534 3 года назад +2

    I thought Ronald Duncan was the first American Ninja. 🤔

  • @funclubchannel3003
    @funclubchannel3003 3 года назад

    Mantra that is in the mind is humble. Comments in context are humble. Mandala the context for your retinue, consort, and you. The noble idea is the material world mandala for yourself as the deity. In words other than in Bodhichitta it would be written as this the personal context of the self experience and my things are the only thing that I have responsibly valued, this value vs street demeaning is I am not the only one of value to think I am the only one to be happy.

  • @thabuloodles9209
    @thabuloodles9209 3 года назад +1

    Legend

  • @theslimemolds5099
    @theslimemolds5099 3 года назад +2

    Hayes is really an icon. However not the 1st American Ninja. Ninjutsu can be dated back to the 30s and Vietnam. I began training Koga in 1975 before the big 80s Ninja boom. No one knew what "Ninja was" Fantastic interview.

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    • @dianecenteno5275
      @dianecenteno5275 3 года назад +1

      Very cool! I have been cross training with the Koga guys for a while now. Good stuff! Who were your teachers?

  • @darkwolf4830
    @darkwolf4830 3 года назад

    I would like to meet Mr. Hayes. Get a pic with him and have him sign on of my book I have of him.

  • @chitorichristmas8252
    @chitorichristmas8252 3 года назад +1

    Shinobi the best 💯

  • @jameshightowerjr.8139
    @jameshightowerjr.8139 3 года назад +2

    He's not the first. It was Ronald Duncan. He's one of the first I'll give you that but, he's not the first. So, let's get the story straight.

  • @Shinbusan
    @Shinbusan 3 года назад

    One thing I do not get - why ninja / shinobi schools use black uniforms? They are made up for chinese opera, so the actor is barely visible on the background out of the focus of lights. But it makes no sense in spy / recon missions. Also this funny ninja silluette is very opera like, not authentic. No one wants to look suspicious in black pijama and running in strange way. I know movies did some kind of romance idea of ninja / shinobi, but in modern time when we look for autenthic gun play, mma fights, more realism, ninjitsu should be shown in more real way as well.
    Best luck with the spreading the ideas. I loved ninjas when I was teenage and still have some weakness for them.

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 3 года назад +2

      Because ninjutsu is essentially made up. It's a modern invention, and its entire "history" and background lore is drawn from modern pop culture. People claiming to practice ancient ninja techniques are engaging in enthusiastic cosplay.
      Ninjutsu is infamous for having almost no coherent structure. Some ninjutsu schools teach some techniques lifted from judo or karate and call it "ninjutsu", and some just cosplay while doing techniques that they think would look cool in movies during compliant, non-resisting demonstrations. The reason for this is because ninjutsu as a martial art doesn't really exist; everyone teaching it is basically making it up as they go along.

    • @Shinbusan
      @Shinbusan 3 года назад

      @@seraphinaaizen6278 similar thinking here, but what about Jinichi Kawakami? I do not know, if this is some real heritage or another fake. No matter really, as he is not teaching anyone.

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 3 года назад +1

      @@Shinbusan Pretty much anyone claiming to have an authentic ninjutsu legacy is a fraud.
      The last real "ninja" (although he wouldn't have called himself that) was Seiko Fujita. He was educated in Kōga-ryū, which is the closest thing there's ever been to actual "ninjutsu". Although it was less a martial art and more a treatise on military tactics for irregular warfare used by the samurai of Kōka.
      Ninjas as we know them today never existed. "Shinobi" were simply soldiers that specialized in irregular warfare, and rather than some particular class of warrior using a secret martial art, they would have been using regular weapons and fighting skills, but employing tactics like guerilla warfare and living off the land. There was no "ninjutsu" martial art that was specific to them.
      However, Fujita made it clear that he would not teach anyone the skills of Kōga-ryū and he left no heir to the teachings. And none of the men today claiming authentic ninjutsu lineage have any connection to them.
      Everything we know about ninjutsu skills today come from a collection of scrolls written in the 1960s, allegedly compiling word-of-mouth teachings dating back hundreds of years, but the authenticity of which are impossible to verify (and it doesn't hurt that the men advocating for the scrolls all claim to have lineages they don't actually have). Many of these scrolls have never been seen by the public and are allegedly held in the possession of the founders and/or current masters of the various ninja schools.
      Which I find kind of funny. Because it means that ninjutsu shares almost the exact same origin story as Mormonism.

  • @tenguken847
    @tenguken847 3 года назад +1

    🤘👺🤘❤️

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  • @funclubchannel3003
    @funclubchannel3003 3 года назад

    You found your wife from Hatsumi how? How did the Karmic ability make it happen? Muscles, money?
    8th fold wrathful compassionate in one Vajra Guru performance. Just to know this is quintessential Buddha especially for teachers.
    Proper body action Yamantaka is Bodhichitta, Vajra Guru, proper effort is VajraKilaya in Vajra Guru Guru Yoga.

  • @blackfeatherarchery
    @blackfeatherarchery 2 года назад

    Frank W. Dux called Stephen Hayes a fraud,

  • @Masked-Man-Music
    @Masked-Man-Music 3 года назад

    Ronald Duncan was the actual FIRST american ninja....

  • @MrHacken
    @MrHacken 3 года назад

    😂

  • @dennisellis5986
    @dennisellis5986 3 года назад +1

    Tang Soo Do is a Korean Martial Art. A Black man was teaching it way before Stephen Hayes. His name is Ronald Duncan. So much bull stuff going on. In the 1980's Black Martial Artists got no respect. White Martial Artists back then got more credit and respect compare to their counter part. Racism does exist in the Martial arts. Same as racism exist in Hollywood. Jim Kelly dealt with it. Notice how he disappear from Hollywood!! He wasn't falling for it.. Kelly spoke on it more than once. Ron Van Clief is another Black icon in the Martial arts world. Back in the 1980"s . White Martial Artists also got plenty of exposure. Even Asian Martial Artists had more exposure than the Black Martial Artists of that time. Jim Kelly, Ron Van Clief, Carl Scott, Billy Banks, Steven Nasty Anderson, etc