The Market IS NOT BROKEN in Diablo Immortal
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Let me explain how these markets aren't broken...
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"Selling other things for max plat..." For true F2P players, great advice. For people who spend any amount of money at all, kind of awful advice. So let's see - it's not pets, runes, or skill stones since they don't sell for max - so you're talking about some regular gems, and possibly terror essence (not that since that's capped at about 4K per week).
So you're talking about selling primarily blue, and some yellow gems - in which case you're literally sabotaging/bricking your own account lol. At a certain point it's no longer realistic to upgrade legendary gems at all, and your focus shifts to normal gems. Secondary attributes are everything. You can be low res. and absolutely demolish your opponents of higher res. if your secondaries are nice. I can't think of a worse thing to do than to sell sapphires and aqua's for some platinum scraps to buy an ultimately meaningless dupe for a lego upgrade haha.
Do you wonder why regular gems haven't been impacted by the server merges, by Susan, etc.? Because they hold true value unlike legendary gems where at some point upgrades aren't possible, and small resonance jumps are useless anyway. Folks.. take some alternate advice and don't sell your blues for chump change. Or do, and watch them be consumed by the true power players, and I don't just mean whales.
finally some sense is spoken
THIS!!! Secondaries are key, I fully regret selling the (not-so-many) normal gems that I did when I first started. You do not want to be high reso with shit secondaries, but can do very well with lower reso and decent secondaries. I am just shy of 3k reso with secondaries just shy of 4k, and can dance with folks double my reso no problem. DO NOT SELL YOUR NORMAL GEMS.
@@Phyto. Yep, you get it - and those are some great secondaries. I guarantee you can go toe-to-toe with with many 4.5K to even 5K res. players with trash secondaries. Maybe even Misery if he keeps offloading normals lol
@@sgoodman72 I think it’s funny he couldn’t comment back to you with anything logical, dudes spreading so much shit information
@@levithirsk5447 I mean, most content creators will reply back to comments that are getting more traction and discussion yeah. Who knows why he hasn't, all i know is that this is pretty bad advice to anyone other than an entry-level player just starting or pure F2P.
i used to make 100k plat easily and now i can barely make 10k.
dont sell the legendary gems. sell everything else and you can still make that plat.
@@MiseryHatesCompanyI used to farm normal gems on alts to make plat. I could sell everything except rubies for 400 plat each. After the merge, only blue gems can still sell for 400 plat. The rest are half their previous value, and rubies I could sell for 150 plat now won't sell at all even at the 100 plat minimum.
@@MiseryHatesCompanyhahahahhahahahasgha bro please dont eger give economy advice to anyone. 😂
the devs just need to give their player base more ways to accumulate platinum, no one will want to spend their platinum (which is already difficult to make) on things in the market that they cannot sell themselves. i usually do not like to present game issues without some form of solution, so one way they can help the community do so is to allow us to convert our useless gold into platinum or introduce a feature where a percentage of platinum can be rewarded while grinding the game whether that be bounties, dungeons, or elder rifts. 300 platinum daily is not enough to incentivize hard working people to log into the game imo. once the community can generate platinum more expansively, the market will begin to reconstruct.
I actually would like to have a conversation with you about this. I really have to disagree, but I think that there are some points that you're not well informed on. They might give you some insight as to why many of us think the market is broken. It is not broken for everyone. It caters right now to free to play and low spenders because they typically make their Platinum through selling normal gems, runes, skill Stones, occasional legendary gems etc.. making Platinum has not changed for them. Where it has changed is for the people who are spending more. We are the ones running rifts, selling gems, and trying to buy the normals, runes, etc. for us, it no longer makes sense to run those rifts because the Platinum that we're getting is insubstantial. It makes more sense at this point to buy platinum outright with orbs. It may be a buyer's market right now, but ultimately it's not sustainable even for the lower folks because eventually those gems are going to run out. There are also some other things that I will not post here, but we'll talk to you about in private in terms of why you're seeing such low numbers.on the legendary gems. Tldr: it's not broken for everyone but definitely broken for the higher spenders.
As a spender I love the present market. I just buy orbs and convert to plat, it's amazing. The only thing Blizz needs to be mindful of is the lack of incentive to run crests, this will eventually lead to a supply side issue. No doubt Blizz will introduce drop rate tables or something to re incentivise crest runs
Sorry MHC, but @elisandre_di is right here
@@elisandre_di misery is a goof and will never admit when he’s wrong 😂 the community cares about the game but all he cares about are views lolll so he spreads whatever he can as frequently as he can regardless of content quality, I don’t come here for info, just to laugh
The market is broken. There is no way to generate plat because of the undercutting. The reason is that there is lower demand is because there are not enough people earning plat or willing to buy orbs to convert to plat. If they fixed the conversion rate people would start buying.
Devs can also raise the min of gems and broaden the range to the max and stop the % based on recent purchases.
Buy low sell high. Problem is nobody is buying low.
Devs can implement a direct sell for plat to bypass the market. Something like you can sell any gem for plat for 500plat per gem power. This would maybe get Susan out of the market and let the market supply and demand work itself out.
Hope they will include weapons & armors at market terror rift drops should be random class & sellable
Silly question what stops you from buying the cheap gem and waiting to sell for inflated price hence earning you free plat?
Hey misery. I watch all your vids but never had time to respond till now. You are absolutely right! I trade stocks on the stock market and I can see clearly that this is a recession inside diablo immortal. Everything is connected and the fear drives down the price of all these amazing lego gems. Recessions don't last forever and one day, people will be talking about what an amazing opportunity the DI recession was. But right now it's hard to see for these players. I'm absolutely enjoying the market right now as I saved up a ton of plat months ago when the market was expensive. As a low spender, this is a huge opportunity. Thanks for all the great content.
pet market is equally dead..eg. i got a pet with 3 legend 2 rare and the lowest price i can put is 210k+ and cant even sell. Nobody has that much extra plat to buy pets anymore
normal gems are only going for 150 to 200 now, if they even sell! Skill stones don't sell, runes don't sell, pets don't sell, so please enlighten us as to what your great secret is. I call bull on that, there is nothing selling for max plat, and if you can't make plat you can't take advantage of the great deals, which in turn makes the market a complete joke!
you bring up an interesting point, but haven't you noticed a huge uptick in market, and rift bots on your cluster?
The problem its not the legendary but the normal, here are all 100 plat except the blue, so i cant farm decent plat as before
It's not supply and demand, not when there only 2 BSJ listed an they are posted 15k. It's not like other markets at all : 1. there is infinite supply from Susan, 2. You can only buy lowest price, 3. You can only list at -50% +100%. Most players can't list their item because even at +100% the price would be unacceptable.
Once everyone has spent all their money on these ridiculous prices, they won't be able to make any plat. Who's selling at dirt cheap ? It's Susan, so that's where everyone's plat is going. Which means in the end the only players who will profit are the cheaters that buy from Susan.
Brother your looking at this as a person who spends money, of course this is a buyer's market, not necessarily a market for those who don't spend, if you don't have plat, them you can't purchase even these AWESOME deals that you and echo keep talking about. And with Blizzard doing nothing about the Susan's and 3rd party sellers, Blizz makes money either way so what do they even care about stopping this,
as a F2P this is the best market for you.. you can sell other items for max plat and buy legendary gems for cheaper. It's pretty simple market watching bud
@@MiseryHatesCompany on my server everything is at half price just about, but the only ones buying are possible whales or those that had plat before this insane market crash,nothing is moving for anyone I talk to, so I can watch the market all I want but if my things aren't selling like for most on our server, what exactly is the point of watching the market, lol
I didnt sell (gems, runes, skillstone, pets) anything even with low prices in weeks!
'throws chair' I'm angry! 😁
Yeah, its cheaper to buy leg gem right now if you spend alot to buy orb. For small medium spender is difference case.
"Your mind is broken" 😅😅 agreed! And appreciate your take on games Miz! Been watching since MFR... keep up the great content! 👍🏾
The only items on the market that you can make a ROI is familiars, and they don't sell for max or fast. Runes aren't even farmable enough to actually make a decent amount of platinum, and ROI is so small, not even worth it. Can't even make platinum on skill stones they go for under 1k platinum. When i need platinum for 5* dups. I just sell rank5 normal gems, usually get a small ROI and ppl wanna lvl gems fast and dont have time to farm so they buy it.
You're destroying your account if you're selling regular gems, later on they became more valuable than even legendary gems when there's nothing left to reasonably upgrade. Secondary stats are everything
@sgoodman72 I figure I need to increase my resonance higher, before continuing to upgrading normal gems, I have 11/20 rank 7s.
@@chrisdasilva7082 If you're any amount of a spender, to be on a reasonable playing field you should pretty much have each gem at Rank 7 - or at least close to it and working on getting there. I guess it depends on your current resonance, but if you're anywhere in the mid-4K's and up, you need to focus on regular gems too.
@sgoodman72 I'm at 2368 for resonance. I spent money early on, but haven't spent a penny in the last 10 months. In the next few weeks I should have enough to make a rank 8 tour, rank 7 tour and my 3rd rank 7 sapphire. Normal gems pre much go for under 200 platinum on my server cluster, so that's under 150k pre rank 7.
@@chrisdasilva7082 nice, not bad man. at your resonance yeah there could be some balance between legendary and normal gems. be lucky, my server all blues are always 400 max plat
The market is a buyers market. It's not dead. No doubt people held on to some gems to flood the market post merger.
Like you said people want to sell their gems and will undercut to make the sale. I can find a stupid video where auto pricing can make prices go crazy. It will normalize
That's actually true.I just bought a savior pet
for 20k which was earlier not less than 60k
Devs should give everyone 100k plat to stimulate the market. You listening devs… give me yo plat!
Whatvare you saying?
Market is down because of DI trying to stop ALT npt SUSAN.
platinum from susan are from orb, while platinum from ALT are from purely farming.
SUSAN BUYERS don't buy max price, ALT DOES.
hence even joining HL are hard for alt.
Yeah I agree everything is cheaper, on my server only leg gems are selling nothing else I had normal gems up for weeks that didn't sell, only way to make Plat is the daily quests, we have a ton of whales but they aren't buying alot of stuff atm, I went from making 20k+ Plat a week to barely 4k plat
The Market is not Broken is correct, it was just manipulated by SUSANS for a long time. The "buy the lowest" feature should've been implemented from the beginning.
I agree
I’d be 8k plus reso if we had these sale prices back in the day.
Haha. Talk about liking the adrenaline on walking in thin ice heheh. Well to be fair its just supply and demand thing. If there is more stock the value is less. Market is dependent on those who participate, hard to accurately sum it but can be reasonably predict. It will stabalize. People are just antsy to have things now than later thats reason for undercutting.
I'm happy with the market right now I'm just trying to hit 5k reso and it's easier now because I can just buy play to buy gems.
The market is going through a buyer's market
The market is dead and impossible for f2p to make any platinum to buy gem power. Everything is super cheap for you mid to high spenders that can buy plat/orbs but literally can't make a profit as a f2p
I'm playing from SEA and I cannot make any platinum. The gems are selling for 100, with the exception of sapphire and aquamarine which are slightly higher. Rubies literally don't sell AT ALL. 1* legendary gems are around 480. Skill stones are on the market for LESS than they cost to CREATE...
Dunno about your particular server, but it is really bad over here.
Market is indeed super broken and dead,and can u enlight us how u make plat these days buddy ?
you can make platinum by selling literally anything other than legendary gems... and then use the plat to buy those cheaper legendary gems.
@@MiseryHatesCompany Sorry but i have to somehow dissagree.On my server all sellable normal gems goes for 100 plat except aquamarines and sapphires which goes from the range 160 to 200 .What we have else terror rift essence we can sell for amazing 400 plat ,runes which are a joke non droppable and the gray ones bcs the blue are a mirage atleast for me from 100-300 plat max .Pets goes for 500 plat the and the legendaries who have saviour for example foes for 20 k which is dirty cheap however people do not get PLAT to buy them .As for the 5* star yes they are cheap and same sitiation no plat to buy .And last but not least will tell you that as low spender when i get some 5* which i can sell the market makes me to drop the prices and get miserable plat for it because this is the reality now.Please tell me where i am wrong to start make 15-20 k weekly as i was doing before the recent updates :) And thank you for replying so fast Buddy .Cheers !
Why would you buy market gems when it’s cheaper to buy crests
so you can get a gem you want rather than a random one. its better for people that are trying to upgrade their gems. but if you dont care what gems you get, its better to run crests.
@@MiseryHatesCompanythe one I don’t want are just fuel for the good ones
Did u play the same game.what a joke .spend all the plat and start making it whitout visa
Whatever it is, its not very fun. Oh well..
What a joke, price is getting lower and lower and its really broken due to susanexpress... So many dummies running elder rifts, i once partied with them once but got kicked out on there second run. Imagine buying an alt for about 7-10$ that has 15k orbs, absolutely crazy... I guess the most unbiased content creater I've watch is only VK and the rest is full of crap.
What’s going to happen when no one wants to buy crests anymore??, then what…you are wrong and clearly only care about the company
As mentioned in the video, just because the item you are trying to sell isn't selling at the same price it did originally, doesnt mean the market is dead. It just means the market for that item is chaning. Also like I mentioned in the video... there are several other items outside of gems that are selling for max plat. I have made more plat from this "dead market" than i did off selling legendary gems.
When no one buys crests anymore there will be less legendary gems on the market for sale, and the prices will go back up.
You are super wrong my friend, you should do a little more research before releasing videos like this, 1: The market does not allow us to sell as we want 2: f2p used to use alters to farm platinum since the market was updated it has become impossible to pass platinum (yes you can but very slowly) 3: the price of the gems is not due to the AMOUNT OF PEOPLE there are; but because all the third party sellers farm rifts and everything they get they sell on the market to make platinum profits and sell the platinum. You say that it benefits you because you do not have the need to make alters and also all your platinum is from reselling your gems and even with the amount of legendary gems that are on the market you will not get the real value.
he's a diablo partner so he has to "sell" us something...
You having a different opinion than someone lese doesn't make them wrong bud. This is the best market for a F2P then we have ever had in Diablo Immortal you can sell you normal gems and runes for max plat, utility pets are still selling for decent plat and then you can take that plat and buy really nice 5 star gems for dirt cheap. It's simple economics and it's clear that the people saying the market is dead for F2P don't understand simple market strategy.
You and I are on the same server post-merge, you know you are lying.. only blue gems sell max price (selling them is a bad idea in the first place), runes are dead in the water, utility pets sell for minimum (if at all).
Wasted 8:56 seconds of my life watching this bullcrap
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Buddy likes his skins too much. Get those skins. You’re wrong.
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Game is dieing sadly
This video is totally a joke!The market is dead and the game is heading towards it too
We can agree to disagree. But without any actual facts or example you make it hard to discuss this with you.
Hey slayer…
Let’s just try and be adults in the comments. I know adulting can be hard to do for a lot of us here on the internet, myself included, but if you have nothing nice to say or anything to post to make this an amicable debate instead of vomiting words on a page…give this guy a break man…He’s just trying to help.
And always remember:
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@@MiseryHatesCompanydon’t even bother replying bro I’ll be here watching so enjoy 4skn as your comment section bouncer from now on xD
Enjoy
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Check Izual market = dead
@@carlocruz3531 be patient slayer…
They will fix market soon…
You know what really grinds my foreskins tho?? Like fr fr…
The tax on Plat which is in game fake currency but has real world value im not sure how that’s even legal. If casinos used Diablo Immortal rules and % of drop rate, for things that cost real money… they’d be shut down same day.
“I’ll try anything twice” -4skn
Wrong...To much supply, and not enough demand.. Just wait till the market is almost empty and it will be back to normal pricing..Im sitting on 6 4* BSJ's and they going for 120k right now. I wouldn't even try to sell those at that price.. Let the desperate ones sell.. They'll run out..Then daddy comes and stocks up 🤣🤣
may you go bankrupt with your hoarded gem, How bout don;t sell it anymore and use it yourself. We are fine with cheaper gems
@@nafets6265 hoarded gems..Not gem..🤣🤣
right, they just made it so you cant farm platinum in an effective manner and have to buy crests lmaooo this dude is unhinged
If anything the current markets would prove you shouldn’t buy crests… which I also reference in this video… so who’s really unhinged?
@@MiseryHatesCompany😂 what you aren’t understanding is that the way they implemented things has ruined the way people make money. Nobody has plat to spend. How are you not getting it? I say again. Unhinged
@@levithirsk5447 Im just going to stop trying to explain basic economics to people on the internet lol 😂 I think i am unhinged