If you can't control the flow of information, you can't control the narrative completely, and that's a key part of the fascist program. It's the reason that they either want to close the schools, or force them to teach what they say is the truth.
South Africans have made great strides to make a fairer society, it's not becoming of you to paint with a wide brush an entire ethnic group with the past. I'm assuming you're American, does Jim Crow ring any bells?
A reasonable assumption, but just to say we're not all like that. White South Africans did in the majority vote for the referendum to end apartheid. Some white South Africans even died fighting against apartheid. Can't stand the man. From white South African.
@@francessimmonds5784 You don't care about truth if you think Wikipedia needs to go away. That's the opposite of caring about the truth. Trying to undermine/detroy wikipedia is basically like burning books because you don't like what's in it. Elon simply is undermining wikipedia because he doesn't like the articles about himself on there, because they're telling the actual truth.
They spent 30 million dollars of that donation money they spammed on dei initiative. So the money meant to keep the site running is going to other things than what they said it was for.
@@knowvoid9958, I'm curious . . . did you actually _listen_ to the explanation of what "safety and inclusion" was? Did you _read_ the text? One other question . . . when did Wikipedia "spam" anyone? I've never received an email from an unknown source claiming to be Wikipedia and soliciting donations. For that matter, I've never received an email claiming to be from another non-profit asking for donations that actually went to Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is one of the best things to ever happen to humanity, it must not be harmed
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It was harmed when Wikimedia behind it started leveraging it for politics. As indicated by Katherine Maher and her speeches, and her running of npr also saying the same thing.
"It was harmed when Wikimedia behind it started leveraging it for politics. As indicated by Katherine Maher and her speeches, and her running of npr also saying the same thing." It's perfectly legitimate and ordinary for any organisation be it a charitable foundation, nonprofit, commercial enterprise, NGO, etc to represent and promote political positions that support its aims. What makes you see Wikipedia doing so as somehow inappropropriate?
cuz it's one of the few remaining things that's good about the internet and musk is a vindictive, destructive baby boy. i always make donations to wikipedia. I am a postdoctoral researacher and use wikipedia whenever i need a quick refresher on a topic, need a quick primer on a new topic or just feel curious about something. The references are a gold mine for new topics. I owe it a lot
I used to be a researcher, changed careers and I am now retired. I love Wikipedia. I use it often to refresh my memory or catch up with the newest developments. In 2016 I became interested in American politics (I am Dutch) and Wikipedia has been very helpful in getting more background knowledge. Just check out the Wikipedia page of a politician or another person exerting power and you know the basics of their background. I don't need to check then all the references. I would need to do that if I wanted to write an article about this person. There are so many ways to use it. If accuracy is important for your purpose, you need to dive deeper, just as with any other source. If accuracy on all details is not relevant for your goal, then it is sufficient to use your common sense and logical mind.
Musk is also NOT an engineer. He just plays one on TV. He does not have an engineering degree, he has never practiced as an engineer and what he knows about engineering could be written on the head of a very small pin in very large letters. Musk HIRES engineers and then takes credit for what they accomplish. To call Musk an engineer of any kind is a grave insult to engineers who worked hard to achieve their skills and who take their profession very seriously, because they know that to screw up as an engineer would most likely endanger the lives of people depending on their professionalism. An idiot who repeatedly insists that "full self driving" is here now, despite the fact that actual engineers have repeatedly said "No, it's not" is not an engineer. He's a snake-oil salesman.
As someone in his 60s, I can remember the days of trying to research a subject without the incredible benefits that Wikipedia offers. It’s just amazing the fountain of information that we have our fingertips now, and the fact that it’s a living database that’s updated continually. Wikipedia is an absolute treasure. We must defend it.
Wikipedia is so useful. I keep a salt shaker on hand, and double check the info I read, but it is wonderfully useful and available. Better than any stupid "AI" Musk&Co ever tried to think up.
I also donate to Wikipedia regularly. I even flipped the script on my first college writing assignment which was supposed to be about why you shouldn't use Wikipedia for college work. I flipped that around and explained how you could use it as long as you understand the limitations. Exactly like you said, a gateway tool.
As I frequently tell my own students, it's a fantastic tool. It's not a good source most of the time, since it's always best to find the original information, but a great tool because they point you to the originals.
I can relate. For years I've told my university students that the couldn't quote Wikipedia directly. Then a student did a persuasive speech about how they should be able to do so. It didn't convince me, but perhaps I should reconsider.
I use it to learn the vocabulary i don't have or can't remember to get more scholarly articles after. Or just to refresh my memory and to see if the knowledge has evolved, after a year or 2..
Not entirely TRUE - rather it's FACTUAL, not adoring STUPID STORIES crafted for sycophants and stouges - we are GOD err mahaps be Gawd Awful, but Elon is WORSE
No Wikipedia is now controlled garbage that's why it needs to go and get replaced. Anyone can edit it now and are getting false information, this is why you can't use it to write your thesis in university, they will throw it out!
I'm 76 years of age in Australia. Before computers we had books such as dictionaries, atlas', encyclopedias and borrowed from libraries. As I was trained in shorthand, I even had a shorthand dictionary which I kept beside me in my desk at work. People read the daily newspapers and listened to the wireless (radio) before we had television. If Elon Musk told me not to do something. that would make me want to do it all the more.
They'll get around to eliminating dictionaries, atlases, encyclopedias, and eventually the very libraries themselves. They are Republicans. It's what they do, after all.
We also had 'books of facts' (i.e., almanacs) that we could quickly reference during conversations. They didn't always have the particular fact you were looking for but they had plenty of info and large glossaries.
I'm only 71 and in the USA. But I still remember the same thing here;-). I used to sit in the library looking up information. All the information I needed was in the library making it easy to follow up on things I didn't understand. And in the library, librarians wouldn't take any talking or goofing around. Social media seems to be the opposite. Social media seems to be constant distractions. Wickipedia seems to be the closest we have today to the library I spent so much time in.
My first real exposure to Musk was when he went on the Colbert Report. They really fluffed up this guy when he was at the height of everyone saying he was a tech genius and a real life Tony Stark and all that. I decided to see if he had a wiki page and after going through it I realized this guy was full of crap. Wikipedia had a whole section about all of his government hand outs and his anarchocapitalist bullshit and I knew from a reading very little that he was full of crap. This was in the mid 00's, I can only imagine how it looks now.
If he opposed it he wouldn't have offer a billion dollars, your talking about the guy who want AI to be op source who built chat gpt and lets you use it for free, the dude is funny he has his own sense of humor but he is genuinely giving it a billion dollars if you let him have his joke like
@@hskajdhf5907my comrade in luigi, musk _hires people_ to build those things, he doesn't _actually_ work on them himself. did you fall out of a time warp that opened in a showing of the first iron man movie?
It's hard to see Elon Musk stopping Wikipedia by suggesting its defunding, b/c the only ones who will listen to him are MAGA and the uninformed and they would never fund or appreciate Wikipedia to begin with. However, seating Musk at the White House does make it more likely that Wikipedia could be shutdown.
For whatever reason when I read your comment I read "Donald Musk". I do agree with the general sentiment of this comment though. Elon is arguably the biggest enemy of the good of humanity, along with the USA current political apparatus (And the EU isn't far behind with their deeply fked up strong armed unfair trade agreements, and neither is China or India and fk these assholes governments want to achieve luxury at the expense of other nations and/or certain populations within their own nations)
@@remrad4315 There is also a "Conservapedia", which is just a deeply bigoted and hateful version of Wikipedia full of conspiracy theories that puts acts as if the US is the only nation of value to exist
But you're wrong too. Wikipedia must strive for neutrality and impartiality; facts vs opinions. It's NOT a democracy and it was never conceived as such, more like a meritocracy, but ultimately immune to politics and worse things. At least acknowledge that threats can come from both sides. Most people agree that more and more diverse content is better, as long as standards are maintained.
As the old saying goes: "If you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power. Any man can stand adversity - only a great man can stand prosperity." (Note that this was not said by Abraham Lincoln despite everyone thinking it was attributed to him - but it was apparently first said by Robert G Ingersoll, who indeed was talking about Lincoln.)
Don't forget that the donations also keep the website ad free, which for most people is becoming a rarity, a website where you can find information without dozens of ads.
the donations are for something entirely separate, the wikimedia foundation is different than the website, they are not the same organization, the website has plenty of resources. the donations they solicit are for jimmy wells to be a libertarian and dodge taxes
@@TheFamousMockingbird so what. Trump also dodged taxes but I don’t see y’all screeching abt it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon also dodges taxes. To think that rich people and those in politics don’t dodge taxes and are super clean and honest is just naive and foolish.
@@archmage_of_the_aetherI’m completely okay with a site advertising itself, especially when it’s a voluntary donation rather than a paywalled subscription, since they’re advertising something I already want or need to use. It’s the companies that advertise things I don’t need that I have a problem with, especially doing so in unrelated contexts.
I tried to correct a Wikipedia article, but my changes kept getting undone. After discussing it with those who were undoing my changes, they said they would rather have the article simple and inaccurate rather than complex and accurate. I gave up trying to fix the errors. Accuracy was not their priority. They agreed that the info was not accurate but the only way to make it accurate was to complicate it.
I'm not sure I believe this. See the Talk section for discussion of why Wikipedia editors reversed an edit. I know of a problematic entry, but at some point, no one person knows all the details. I am registered as a Wikipedia editor. I don't touch articles by people I know personally.
Not saying you're lying, but I will admit that I have a hard time believing this. A claim this large really ought to be backed up with some direct evidence.
Is this a question of what reading level / educational level is aimed at? Like those videos where an expert explains something on five different levels, first to a child and eventually as to a fellow specialist? A very high level of specificity can be hard to understand for most people, and there is a tradeoff between an explanation which is less accurate but more comphrensible and the reverse.
If it's any consolation, the kind of people who set store by what Elon Musk has to say are unlikely to be the kind of people who donate to Wikipedia. Personally, I consider Wikipedia a supreme achievement of humankind, the greatest repository of human knowledge ever created.
@johnnzboy ~ I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but, unfortunately, it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks of Elon Musk. He has unlimited wealth (comparatively speaking), and he has just bought the American Presidency and will do exactly what he wants. Tragically and dangerously, t#### is insecure and easily manipulated. I don't think Elon Musk would've been allowed to get this far with other Presidents.
If you look to the history of political calamities,it always includes the fanatical vanity of one man. Blaming the masses is too easy, we can all be swayed by promises to lead us to the life we wish for ourselves.
I wouldn't say they're quite successful yet. Well on their way but over 50% of the population does not believe what they are saying and likely never will. And once they start implementing their ideas, they will further alienate their own base. This fight isn't over yet. @@WaningGibbous
I think the funny part is(not really) is on Twitter, I would constantly get ads for trump or his merchandise during the election, and I don’t really follow politics stuff on Twitter since I mainly use it to follow RUclipsrs and art, I didn’t got anything for Kamala Harris, but my friend did but only once.
@@arijuju7303 He's been a con-man all along. Maybe even better than Trump, and like Trump, he has the entire media, corporate and MAGA, on his side. They love them the fascist billionaires.
because when you're a billionaire, you buy what you can and burn what you can't. it's dumb and it's childish but it's part of the process if you were never forced to learn a lesson in your life.
here's the thang... Elon is a SOCIOPATH, just he just DOES NOT CARE about you nor your thoughts - but you surprised me - NOM! *I AM 97 👍* === also if you're a dude who likes dudes - ALL THE👍your butt - I WUV YOU long time from afar! _don't get it? buy a butt plug and jo.... it's just so easy_
Wikipedia said that a few dollars per year per user would be enough to keep the lights on. So I gave $50 in a single donation to cover the rest of my years of usage.
Saying that you are "fighting for the future of humanity" is an empty phrase. What future are you fighting for? What does that future entail? Is it one where the only scarce resource is time, which is sort of what Star Trek tries to portray? Is it one where the wealthiest of the wealthy (like Elon) are free to do as they please, which is sort of what Cyberpunk tries to portray? The great selling point of saying that you are "fighting for the future of humanity", is that a huge segment of your audience are going to fill in their own ideas of what that means.
It’s always best to choose a monthly subscription donation, even if it’s low, because regular monthly donations allow organisations like Wikipedia to have a steady income and plan for future expenses.
I'm a regular contributor to Wikipedia now. When I made my most recent contribution, I thought to myself that this is exactly the kind of resource that that idiot Musk would try to tear down. And here we are! 🙄
Elon was raised in South Africa during Apartheid. It ended there. He just bought the American Presidency so that he can help recreate it here. Welcome to your new oligarchy
new, sure, but america has been an oligarchy for a very long time. im not saying that both sides are equally as bad, but they sure are leashed by the same, evil masters.
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Thank goodness China is running Africa now. It'll finally give the left a new group to blame and unleash their anger on.
I have donated to Wiki in the past. I was going to skip it this year because money is tight, but to flip a middle finger to Elon, I can spare a couple dollars. Just donated. Thanks Steve!
It's quite easy to set up a recurring monthly donation. Just $4 or $5 per month can be easier than $50 or $60 annually. (And charities generally prefer that way, because it gives them a more predictable budget.)
And saying “All politicians and political parties are the same.” is code for “I’m too lazy/uninformed to know the differences and the impact they have on my life.”
I saw a recommendation recently that suggested on January 20 during the inauguration, we should cancel Twitter memberships. Just passing the idea along in case it also appeals to others.
I remember this guy now, it's been many years, and this video showed me exactly why i never took him seriously. Didn't take long before he started throwing the buzzwords for those who disagree.
Never donated to Wikipedia before. Happened to have other charities. But the second I saw musk's post, I set up monthly donations. It didn't hurt financially, though, because I just canceled all my Amazon services, since Bezos bowed down and tithed to Trump. Not saying all this to virtue signal or whatever. I'm just hoping everybody else is paying attention to where they are putting their money right now. We have to make sure that these things backfire for Trump and Musk. Support the people they are trying to hurt and punish those who curry their favor.
This!!! If people continue giving their money to the likes of Bozos and Musk, we enslave ourselves further. Express your freedom of choice and shift your consumption habits to local businesses. With the shitstorm that is coming, you'll have to make sacrifices anyway, why not make them while supporting your neighbors at the same time. The average american spends $91 dollars a month with Amazon, so just think about how we could transform local/state economies if we shifted most of those dollars to local businesses. 68 cents of every dollar you spend with a local business/product stays in the community/state, versus only 40-42 cents of each dollar spent with a corporate chain/Amazon.
Libraries are often stopping weekend and evening hours. College libraries charge non students a subscription fee. Many public libraries don't have research material. NYC Public Library had amazing books but required use of older or more specialized books in the Library. National Archives tend to be marvelous (UK National Archives have downloadable PDFs of released government files, not sure what the US National Archives has on-line.
They're complementary, not replacements of one another. A LOT of people all over the world don't have access to a good local library for various reasons. But basically everyone now has a smartphone, and Wikipedia exists in a huge number of languages. (plus AI translation, which for all its issues is still a net good for basic access to information)
Woke started in the Black community as a way to describe us learning mutiple things like: Addressing our truma via therapy, acknowledging out part in our own oppression amongst many other cultural revelations. Racists MAGA got wind of us trying our best to heal and grow via Wokeism and they turned the term into something they could debate about and spit on. Edit: The Woke saga is the best and most recent example of the mechanisms of oppression of POC. Most people don't even know where it started but they now have an opnion on it.
Woke comes from the African American community. It means to be aware. As in stay woke. Stay alert. Know what is going on around you. It is not what it has been captured to be. It is not all the things that other people are trying to turn it into. It is not the golden rule. So yes woke is a good thing to be. But it's not about doing to others as they do unto you, that is a golden rule. Stay woke. And keep your head on a swivel. You're going to need that with Trump in the White House. And all these clowns in the cabinet.
Dude didn't even read Wikipedia's own report on the topic. Single source Andy over here. "Let me humbly suggest" - Says the man behaving in the most self-righteous and least humble manner possible. You'll never be able to see anything outside of your own personal political viewpoint if you keep behaving like this and believing the first article you read on a topic.
Minor correction. Money doesn't turn people into assholes. It's just that the kinds of people who would do the exploitive things it takes to make that much money, kinda have to assholes. Good people who actually treat their employes fairly, can't get that obscenely rich in the first place, and even if they somehow did, they'd most likely donate most of it to charities or otherwise invest in publicly funded projects which help make the world a better place for everyone, not just themselves. As a saying I've grown quite fond of goes, power doesn't corrupt, it just reveals whatever corruption was already there all along.
Maybe there's some substantive evolution here. I remember in the RayGun years of the 80s, it was LITERALLY believed that the more lucre you obtained for yourself the better a person you were. All sorts of adulation was bestowed upon "biznezmin", and people scored upper-moral- ground points along the lines of what their bottom lines were. Well....at least we have created SOME distance (small as it may be) from that!
@@Thousandaire-n7o: The 80's was the decade of Reganomics, of course it glorified the wealthy elites, and the legacy of that decade is why working-class conservatives to this day still vote against their own interests in favor politicians that have been so thoroughly bought out by corporate interests.
@@Thousandaire-n7o In The U.S.A. it is currently referred to as Prosperity Gospel. Which is essentially the idea that God gives good people money. If you don't have money you're just not good enough, and those with money are the best people (or agents of the Devil). There are a lot of interesting video's examining it if you are curious about additional information.
Worded wisely. I like tp say ‚money only brings out what‘s inside you already‘. In that regard it‘s similar to alcohol. You have the people that get funny, those that get the blues and the aggressive ones..
I never bothered donating to Wikipedia, I always figured someone else would do it. I honestly didn't particularly care when I started your video, but five minutes in, and I'm convinced. Totally reversed my perspective on the subject, thank you!
I'm leaving it there (with a final "f this" and a shameless self-promotion of my tumblr) to drain whatever resources it drains by being hosted on a server somewhere. That does cost money, it's one reason sites like photobucket went back on their original promises to keep stuff free forever.
No school does. No University does. The information is usually accurate - but it isn't reliable. They aren't actually synonymous. I always advise students to start with Wikipedia, but never end there; and never ever quote it as a source.
My favourite Wikipedia fact is that for a while now it has banned using the Daily Mail (a hard right wing mainstream UK newspaper) as a cited source for its articles, as it does not consider it a reliable source of impartial and accurate information.
@@ZuluRomeo I use that page (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources) all the time as a quick way to determine whether or not a news article is likely trustworthy. So incredibly useful. It goes into detail about why a source is dodgy, including specifics like “source is generally reliable but has a conflict of interest around this one specific topic”
The Daily Mail and the Daily Express lie, so openly, so blatantly and so obviously, and often so ludicrously that there cam be no doubt that it is their intention to encourage the growth of fascism. And yet too many people, especially working-class people, think of reading these papers as being part of their daily routines.
I grew up in Venezuela (I was a dual citizen, living in the U.S. when I wrote this), and around 2010 I was shocked at how little information concerning my Latin American childhood and earliest adolescence I could find online-not just in Wikipedia, but ANYWHERE-and what a contrast that was to the surfeit of information regarding the U.S., or to a secondary extent Western Europe, there was, gumming up the tubes. Specifically, I was trying to find the radio pop charts for Caracas in the late 1970s … turned out, I couldn’t even find a record of such basic information as what t.v. stations we’d had, or what their broadcast channels had been! (If you’re curious: 2 - RCTV; 4 - Venevisión; 5 - TVN 5, more commonly just called Canal Cinco; 8 - VTV; I could’ve sworn there was a channel 10 or 11, too, sporadically, but I never could quite recall the details.) So I went down a rabbit hole then, and realized that, had I wanted to know when a particular Chuck E. Cheese in rural Wyoming had closed, I would’ve found a date, its exact address, its menu, who had serviced the robot mouse, a list of inspection dates … anything and everything! Had I wanted to know who Venezuela’s most famous pop singer of the late 1970s was, I’d have come up the goose egg. (It was Jose Luis Rodriguez, by the way … or “El Puma,” rawr.) The situation got better in the ensuing years, but you’d be surprised at how tilted the playing field remained. It’s one thing to intellectually appreciate how heavily the Internet privileges the world’s robber baron nations over the rest of us, but quite another to have viscerally apprehended the fact of one’s erasure. And it’s rather a big deal: I was in my (cough) early fifties (cough) as I wrote this, and in not too long I would be dead … followed, inevitably and over time, by my entire cohort. One day, it’ll have been as if the 1970s occurred only in the U.S.A. and across Western Europe … but not in Latin America, OR across the African continent, OR in Southeast Asia! The details of all these lives, forgotten; the struggle against both colonialism and empire, not only lost, but … erased; the liberation struggles of the decade-of women, of queer people, of people of color, of the poor, of the disabled, of the disenfranchised writ large, obliterated, and rewritten solely from the perspective of the victors. I didn’t want that to happen. To whoever reads this: it can still be avoided, but complacency won’t get the job done. It’s good that Wikipedia actively pursue inclusion … if only more organizations would! Sorry for the long monologue, but this topic was closer to me than anyone who’d known me ever seemed to guess.
I love these people who claim to be the "true Americans" yet don't realize that the Declaration of Independence was the ultimate form of "woke DEI". We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
@@NikolaHoward To be fair Man had several uses back then. There is also a it's where their should be an its because it's used to be the possessive. IT was for it's time though super woke cause even saying all males was super woke for the time of literal people sanctioned by god herself.
The appendix of Nineteen Eighty Four that describes the history of Newspeak famously suggested that this entire passage from the Declaration of Independence would be reduced to the single word "crimethink" because its ideas were completely counter to those of The Party and of Big Brother.
@@archmage_of_the_aether Musk did almost shut down the government by showing his disapproval and threatening politicians for passing a simple funding bill.
I use Wikipedia. I found some errors in themes I know. For example, what it says about the University of Puerto Rico, Mayagüez Campus. So, I don't trust it 100%.
Ah, good ol steve, it's been a while, the biggest anita sarkesian defender that ever lived. that should let anyone competent know how credible this guy is, if the video didn't already discredit him before that. Certified clown status.
One of the many good things about Wiki is the complete absence of all those irritating , intrusive and, frankly, insulting advertisements. As a result of your excellent video here, my donations to Wiki will double in future.
@@Jaina1971 damn that's wild. So much of a control freak that he can't even handle right wing critique of his actions existing. And so, he made it so "verification" is now not a marker of being functionally verified by the public as accurate, but now: 1. Bought 2. Revoked to his personal convenience (hint, neona**s don't get theirs revoked)
He needs to be "adjusted" as he will never stop or be restrained by morality / laws. One hopes he adjusts himself, but history shows that does not happen.
It's time to recognize that Elon is not an honorable American Citizen. He has failed to follow the rules governing his request to stay in America by violating the terms of his visa. It's time to revoke his citizenship and deport him. Oh yeah, do not forget to fine him heavily.
1:25 Well said. Speaking as an academic librarian, I encourage students to do their preliminary research using Wikipedia and Google, among other tools, to get a general idea about their topic before they dive into the university's databases. It really helps to see the entries themselves, but also the citations and links to other articles. I donate to Wikipedia a couple of times a year, and muskRat's tweet to the contrary made me donate more than I usually would.
Exactly. Elon is against anything that proves he's wrong. Incredibly stupid considering SpaceX and Tesla are successful only because of their effective interaction with reality.
between RUclips for general processes and Wikipedia for specific details I have learned how to hunt, surf, build surfboards, build and wire guitars, overhaul old Porsche engines, work on newer Japanese engines finding details like bullet sizes, bolt sizes, engine displacements, definitions, I mean Wikipedia is the promise of the INFORMATION AGE
Wikipedia is the reason why the internet was invented. Not literally, but it very much is in the spirit of the internet's invention. Without credible information sharing sites such as Wikipedia, then what would the internet really be doing for society? I can only look at so many cat videos & porn in a day. We need something more in our lives than frivolous entertainment. In my mind, Wikipedia goes a long way in validating the internet's place in our society.
Interestingly, you generally don't see conspiracy theorists quoting Wikipedia. That's more of an endorsement than anything else, and I am 100% positive that people who use the term "do the research" DON'T mean "using Wikipedia"
If I had billions of dollaroos, I too would rarely be out of the news, but mostly for my fantastic humanitarian work and using my money to help society where the state is failing, not for being a wank.
Sadly the mindset required to acquire that wealth necessarily means you would not be generous. Its why id way most multi-millionaires are some degree of psychopathic because it requires the lack of empathy for the lower classes.
And Musk would hate that, which is why he continuously complains about the charitable efforts of Bezos' ex-wife who is trying to do good with her half of the business.
Hes mad that Wikipedia exposes him for the fraud he is, as a man that came from extraordinary wealth who likes to pass himself off as a hardworking, self made genius.
I have never donated to Wikipedia , but I will from now on , as much as I possibly can , let’s flood wiki pedia with donations . If I have learned anything in the last few weeks , is to do the exact opposite of what the new CEO of the USA INC . Musk. Wants me to do .
I think a lot of that comes from “Prosperity Doctrine”, the fallacious idea that since God blesses the good, the seemingly blessed (e.g. rich and/or famous) must be good. The idea (already in opposition to the Bible by the way; see Matthew 5:45) worked its way into the general consciousness and merged with “He’s smart, he must know everything!” to form the modern idea that because someone looks like they know how to do something, they must have a valid and useful opinion on every subject.
they went with "equality of opportunity instead of equality of outcome" for a few years; ie. if 2 people are able to apply for the same CEO position, then equality must exist. Analysing who gets the job in any way is communism and evil. End of argument.
And it's so much more than an encyclopedia. It's a truly living document. Literally millions of documents. I remember when I first discovered it, a few years into its life and as a massive geek I thought, "It's the 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!'" The reality is that it has become more than that. Any human being on earth, with literacy and a network connection can add to the document. It may be the most democratic entity to ever exist on planet earth. When discussing the positives and negatives of the internet, there are many, many cons. But I honestly believe that Wikipedia on its own may end of being the one pro that offsets every single con. It's that valuable to us. And I've given many times, small amounts, over the years.
I mean if President Musk wants Twitter to compete with Wikipedia, he should start requiring source citations for “facts”’posted there. Although we all know already how much the right has an aversion to actual research and source citations.
I agree, the richest person on the planet owning the most visited information source on the planet is unhinged. Let’s all hope Wikipedia stays free from his political bias.
Me too, I'm almost 45, and I remember how it was before Wikipedia, when you went to the library, trying to find informations on a subject inside a small collection of books that were almost always already way outdated when you opened them... if they were available. So, my 2025 New Year's Resolution will be to make a monthly contribution to Wikipedia, and it will be thanks to you 😉
Im 34 and I remember using the old books to write papers. It was terrible. I always laughed when teachers were all you can't trust wikipedia, use this 80 year old encyclopedia instead.
Just donated $10, wish there was a function where I could write in a certain someone's name or write a message. They'd probably have to hide mine due to profanity.
Have been donating my $25 each bear since 2017. Balanced information needed support even back when Elon wasn’t quite as terrible as he’s today. More so today.
Because accessible information is the enemy of fascism.
There's the answer.
If you can't control the flow of information, you can't control the narrative completely, and that's a key part of the fascist program. It's the reason that they either want to close the schools, or force them to teach what they say is the truth.
education is the future, or NOTHING
yo, come visit the skagit
All this anti-wokeness is nothing but a sham and distraction they don't wantnyou to look aat the real problem
Gosh, I am SHOCKED that the White South African born and raised in apartheid South Africa is not a fan of DEI. Shocked I tell you.
South Africans have made great strides to make a fairer society, it's not becoming of you to paint with a wide brush an entire ethnic group with the past. I'm assuming you're American, does Jim Crow ring any bells?
Very funny, but not about DEI it’s about the truth.
A reasonable assumption, but just to say we're not all like that. White South Africans did in the majority vote for the referendum to end apartheid. Some white South Africans even died fighting against apartheid. Can't stand the man. From white South African.
A very nice reference to that glorious line from Claude Rains in "Casablanca"
@@francessimmonds5784 You don't care about truth if you think Wikipedia needs to go away. That's the opposite of caring about the truth. Trying to undermine/detroy wikipedia is basically like burning books because you don't like what's in it.
Elon simply is undermining wikipedia because he doesn't like the articles about himself on there, because they're telling the actual truth.
1. He didn't discover it. 2. He didhn't invent it. 3. He doesn't own it. 4. He can't buy it. 5. He can't understand the point of it. 6. It's free.
They spent 30 million dollars of that donation money they spammed on dei initiative. So the money meant to keep the site running is going to other things than what they said it was for.
That sixth point is _why_ Musk can't understand Wikipedia!
Don't forget you can download the contents of it, and put it back up if it goes away
@@knowvoid9958, I'm curious . . . did you actually _listen_ to the explanation of what "safety and inclusion" was? Did you _read_ the text?
One other question . . . when did Wikipedia "spam" anyone? I've never received an email from an unknown source claiming to be Wikipedia and soliciting donations. For that matter, I've never received an email claiming to be from another non-profit asking for donations that actually went to Wikipedia.
Spot on, even in correct order!
Wikipedia is one of the best things to ever happen to humanity, it must not be harmed
It was harmed when Wikimedia behind it started leveraging it for politics. As indicated by Katherine Maher and her speeches, and her running of npr also saying the same thing.
It can be biased on things though...
"You have said the actual truth"
-Elongated Muskrat
If there is any harm to be done between Wikipedia and Elon Musk, I say protect Wikipedia!
"It was harmed when Wikimedia behind it started leveraging it for politics. As indicated by Katherine Maher and her speeches, and her running of npr also saying the same thing."
It's perfectly legitimate and ordinary for any organisation be it a charitable foundation, nonprofit, commercial enterprise, NGO, etc to represent and promote political positions that support its aims. What makes you see Wikipedia doing so as somehow inappropropriate?
Wikipedia is one of my life lines for information. I always donate yearly.
the brain rot from this video has severally damaged my IQ
the seeting hatred of musk is strong in this one
cuz it's one of the few remaining things that's good about the internet and musk is a vindictive, destructive baby boy. i always make donations to wikipedia. I am a postdoctoral researacher and use wikipedia whenever i need a quick refresher on a topic, need a quick primer on a new topic or just feel curious about something. The references are a gold mine for new topics. I owe it a lot
Yup. You can't cite it in a peer reviewed paper but it will get you started.
Fecker destroys everything - all that money and still not happy!!!
I used to be a researcher, changed careers and I am now retired.
I love Wikipedia. I use it often to refresh my memory or catch up with the newest developments.
In 2016 I became interested in American politics (I am Dutch) and Wikipedia has been very helpful in getting more background knowledge. Just check out the Wikipedia page of a politician or another person exerting power and you know the basics of their background. I don't need to check then all the references. I would need to do that if I wanted to write an article about this person.
There are so many ways to use it. If accuracy is important for your purpose, you need to dive deeper, just as with any other source. If accuracy on all details is not relevant for your goal, then it is sufficient to use your common sense and logical mind.
@@okkietrooy6841 Yes, it is like having a full set of dictionaries at your fingertips.
@@ToCraunchAMarmoset Of course not. It is its references and citations that are important and useful.
Wikipedia provides bibliographies too sometimes.
Musk is also NOT an engineer. He just plays one on TV. He does not have an engineering degree, he has never practiced as an engineer and what he knows about engineering could be written on the head of a very small pin in very large letters. Musk HIRES engineers and then takes credit for what they accomplish. To call Musk an engineer of any kind is a grave insult to engineers who worked hard to achieve their skills and who take their profession very seriously, because they know that to screw up as an engineer would most likely endanger the lives of people depending on their professionalism. An idiot who repeatedly insists that "full self driving" is here now, despite the fact that actual engineers have repeatedly said "No, it's not" is not an engineer. He's a snake-oil salesman.
Oh no! Because of this defamatory yet true comment, now butt-hurt Elon Musk will attempt to destroy the Steve Shives RUclips channel!
@@michaelmeichtry316That should boost Steve's fame and popularity immensely! Bring it on!
Musk is an idiot but a dangerous one just like Drumph
So he’s Maxwell lord.
The only thing he's invented is the list of things he's invented.
As someone in his 60s, I can remember the days of trying to research a subject without the incredible benefits that Wikipedia offers. It’s just amazing the fountain of information that we have our fingertips now, and the fact that it’s a living database that’s updated continually. Wikipedia is an absolute treasure. We must defend it.
Wikipedia is so useful. I keep a salt shaker on hand, and double check the info I read, but it is wonderfully useful and available. Better than any stupid "AI" Musk&Co ever tried to think up.
I also donate to Wikipedia regularly. I even flipped the script on my first college writing assignment which was supposed to be about why you shouldn't use Wikipedia for college work. I flipped that around and explained how you could use it as long as you understand the limitations. Exactly like you said, a gateway tool.
As I frequently tell my own students, it's a fantastic tool. It's not a good source most of the time, since it's always best to find the original information, but a great tool because they point you to the originals.
I can relate. For years I've told my university students that the couldn't quote Wikipedia directly. Then a student did a persuasive speech about how they should be able to do so. It didn't convince me, but perhaps I should reconsider.
@dctrevett I don't think they should cite Wikipedia as a source, you should never use tertiary sources in rigorous academic writing.
@@dcviper985 It's not rigorous academic writing on the public speaking side, but the Intro to Rhetoric part...
I use it to learn the vocabulary i don't have or can't remember to get more scholarly articles after. Or just to refresh my memory and to see if the knowledge has evolved, after a year or 2..
It's a gate to knowledge and allows ppl to think. This is why Musk doesn't like it.
I really freaking hate that guy.
Bingo
Not entirely TRUE - rather it's FACTUAL, not adoring STUPID STORIES crafted for sycophants and stouges - we are GOD
err mahaps be Gawd Awful, but Elon is WORSE
@@annjepsen1621the party of rapists has taught us how to hate.
No Wikipedia is now controlled garbage that's why it needs to go and get replaced.
Anyone can edit it now and are getting false information, this is why you can't use it to write your thesis in university, they will throw it out!
Last Christmas he offered them $1bill to sell. This year he demands no one donate. If this doesn't show folks how important Wikipedia is...
I'm 76 years of age in Australia. Before computers we had books such as dictionaries, atlas', encyclopedias and borrowed from libraries. As I was trained in shorthand, I even had a shorthand dictionary which I kept beside me in my desk at work. People read the daily newspapers and listened to the wireless (radio) before we had television. If Elon Musk told me not to do something. that would make me want to do it all the more.
Many of those resources were full of misinformation, and disinformation.
They'll get around to eliminating dictionaries, atlases, encyclopedias, and eventually the very libraries themselves.
They are Republicans. It's what they do, after all.
I just donated to wikipedia after having watched this video. Hope Elon´s statement inspires more ppl to do so!
We also had 'books of facts' (i.e., almanacs) that we could quickly reference during conversations. They didn't always have the particular fact you were looking for but they had plenty of info and large glossaries.
I'm only 71 and in the USA. But I still remember the same thing here;-). I used to sit in the library looking up information. All the information I needed was in the library making it easy to follow up on things I didn't understand. And in the library, librarians wouldn't take any talking or goofing around. Social media seems to be the opposite. Social media seems to be constant distractions. Wickipedia seems to be the closest we have today to the library I spent so much time in.
I'm so tired of Elon Musk!
I think many thinking people are.
Luigi showed the only way that people like Elon will ever be stopped. Which is actually horrible.
Same here. And he's not even president yet.
By now I think that might be his tactic: annoying everyone to wear them down
Hate to say it but you could be on to something here!@joesiemoneit2787
My first real exposure to Musk was when he went on the Colbert Report. They really fluffed up this guy when he was at the height of everyone saying he was a tech genius and a real life Tony Stark and all that. I decided to see if he had a wiki page and after going through it I realized this guy was full of crap. Wikipedia had a whole section about all of his government hand outs and his anarchocapitalist bullshit and I knew from a reading very little that he was full of crap. This was in the mid 00's, I can only imagine how it looks now.
Right wing extremists opposing it is actually a pretty good argument for donating to Wikipedia.
Every month…I donate 2 bucks every month. I think I’ll increase it.
If he opposed it he wouldn't have offer a billion dollars, your talking about the guy who want AI to be op source who built chat gpt and lets you use it for free, the dude is funny he has his own sense of humor but he is genuinely giving it a billion dollars if you let him have his joke like
@@hskajdhf5907my comrade in luigi, musk _hires people_ to build those things, he doesn't _actually_ work on them himself. did you fall out of a time warp that opened in a showing of the first iron man movie?
@@LexYeen remember, these people genuinely believe marvel movies are real, and Musk is Tony Stark. Pity them for they do not know better.
It's hard to see Elon Musk stopping Wikipedia by suggesting its defunding, b/c the only ones who will listen to him are MAGA and the uninformed and they would never fund or appreciate Wikipedia to begin with. However, seating Musk at the White House does make it more likely that Wikipedia could be shutdown.
Whenever Elon Musk or Donald Trump say do this or don't do that then my immediate reaction is to do the exact opposite.
Well there is no Woke-apedia. But there is Wikipedia.
For whatever reason when I read your comment I read "Donald Musk". I do agree with the general sentiment of this comment though. Elon is arguably the biggest enemy of the good of humanity, along with the USA current political apparatus (And the EU isn't far behind with their deeply fked up strong armed unfair trade agreements, and neither is China or India and fk these assholes governments want to achieve luxury at the expense of other nations and/or certain populations within their own nations)
@@remrad4315 There is also a "Conservapedia", which is just a deeply bigoted and hateful version of Wikipedia full of conspiracy theories that puts acts as if the US is the only nation of value to exist
I donate every year. In 2025 I will double it. I won’t lease a Tesla or buy any thing dat will make Elton a cent richer
Indeed. This news was a good reminder that I should donate so I did.
But you're wrong too. Wikipedia must strive for neutrality and impartiality; facts vs opinions. It's NOT a democracy and it was never conceived as such, more like a meritocracy, but ultimately immune to politics and worse things. At least acknowledge that threats can come from both sides. Most people agree that more and more diverse content is better, as long as standards are maintained.
Money doesnt turn people into A-holes. It allows them to be what they already were without fear of consequences.
TRUE
No. It turns people into psychopaths. If you think you could be a good person if you had that much wealth you are fooling yourself.
But one doesn’t become a billionaire without being a major asshole.
Yes. It's the "without fear of consequences" that's tge key
As the old saying goes:
"If you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power. Any man can stand adversity - only a great man can stand prosperity."
(Note that this was not said by Abraham Lincoln despite everyone thinking it was attributed to him - but it was apparently first said by Robert G Ingersoll, who indeed was talking about Lincoln.)
Don't forget that the donations also keep the website ad free, which for most people is becoming a rarity, a website where you can find information without dozens of ads.
Except for the ads for itself 😉
the donations are for something entirely separate, the wikimedia foundation is different than the website, they are not the same organization, the website has plenty of resources. the donations they solicit are for jimmy wells to be a libertarian and dodge taxes
And the investors of the add's have ideological interests so if wikipedia need the ads, wikipedia will be forced into the investors wills.
@@TheFamousMockingbird so what. Trump also dodged taxes but I don’t see y’all screeching abt it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon also dodges taxes. To think that rich people and those in politics don’t dodge taxes and are super clean and honest is just naive and foolish.
@@archmage_of_the_aetherI’m completely okay with a site advertising itself, especially when it’s a voluntary donation rather than a paywalled subscription, since they’re advertising something I already want or need to use. It’s the companies that advertise things I don’t need that I have a problem with, especially doing so in unrelated contexts.
I tried to correct a Wikipedia article, but my changes kept getting undone. After discussing it with those who were undoing my changes, they said they would rather have the article simple and inaccurate rather than complex and accurate. I gave up trying to fix the errors. Accuracy was not their priority. They agreed that the info was not accurate but the only way to make it accurate was to complicate it.
I'm not sure I believe this. See the Talk section for discussion of why Wikipedia editors reversed an edit. I know of a problematic entry, but at some point, no one person knows all the details. I am registered as a Wikipedia editor. I don't touch articles by people I know personally.
Not saying you're lying, but I will admit that I have a hard time believing this. A claim this large really ought to be backed up with some direct evidence.
What were you trying to edit?
Is this a question of what reading level / educational level is aimed at? Like those videos where an expert explains something on five different levels, first to a child and eventually as to a fellow specialist? A very high level of specificity can be hard to understand for most people, and there is a tradeoff between an explanation which is less accurate but more comphrensible and the reverse.
If it's any consolation, the kind of people who set store by what Elon Musk has to say are unlikely to be the kind of people who donate to Wikipedia. Personally, I consider Wikipedia a supreme achievement of humankind, the greatest repository of human knowledge ever created.
@johnnzboy ~ I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but, unfortunately, it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks of Elon Musk. He has unlimited wealth (comparatively speaking), and he has just bought the American Presidency and will do exactly what he wants. Tragically and dangerously, t#### is insecure and easily manipulated.
I don't think Elon Musk would've been allowed to get this far with other Presidents.
It is our modern day Library of Alexandria, the history of which Leon wants to replicate.
@@PaleRider54 Makes sense that a bafoon wants to burn it down. History, and rhyming.
Fascism, how does it happen. -They first fool the ignorant, and then they silence the opponent.
Well, looks like they are successful on the first one...
If you look to the history of political calamities,it always includes the fanatical vanity of one man.
Blaming the masses is too easy, we can all be swayed by promises to lead us to the life we wish for ourselves.
I go with Plutocracy, but yeah.
I wouldn't say they're quite successful yet. Well on their way but over 50% of the population does not believe what they are saying and likely never will. And once they start implementing their ideas, they will further alienate their own base. This fight isn't over yet. @@WaningGibbous
I think the funny part is(not really) is on Twitter, I would constantly get ads for trump or his merchandise during the election, and I don’t really follow politics stuff on Twitter since I mainly use it to follow RUclipsrs and art, I didn’t got anything for Kamala Harris, but my friend did but only once.
“Money destroys character.” No one demonstrates this more clearly than Elon Musk.
That’s assuming he had good character to begin with….. have you seen his mother?
@@arijuju7303 He's been a con-man all along. Maybe even better than Trump, and like Trump, he has the entire media, corporate and MAGA, on his side. They love them the fascist billionaires.
because when you're a billionaire, you buy what you can and burn what you can't. it's dumb and it's childish but it's part of the process if you were never forced to learn a lesson in your life.
@summerlovinxx ~ I would say that it's calculating and vile rather than dumb and childish. Musk knows *EXACTLY* what he is doing.
@@priscillamoore5736 Just because he is calculating doesn't mean he can also be dumb
@@priscillamoore5736 to be honest, I belive that 'elon knows exactly what he's doing' is one of the greatest myth of the 21th century....
here's the thang... Elon is a SOCIOPATH, just he just DOES NOT CARE about you nor your thoughts - but you surprised me - NOM! *I AM 97 👍*
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also if you're a dude who likes dudes - ALL THE👍your butt - I WUV YOU long time from afar! _don't get it? buy a butt plug and jo.... it's just so easy_
@@tobiasfreitag2182I agree. Elon know whatever the the current drugs lead him to "know" at any given time.
Wikipedia said that a few dollars per year per user would be enough to keep the lights on. So I gave $50 in a single donation to cover the rest of my years of usage.
Thank you. I am poor, I earn $150 a month as a teacher, and I use Wiki often.
Wishing you and others like you Peace & Prosperity in 2025!
I'm not giving jimbo any more money.
They already have the cash to keep the lights on for the next century, stop falling for their "Wikipedia is in danger please donate more" BS tactic.
Saying that you are "fighting for the future of humanity" is an empty phrase.
What future are you fighting for? What does that future entail? Is it one where the only scarce resource is time, which is sort of what Star Trek tries to portray? Is it one where the wealthiest of the wealthy (like Elon) are free to do as they please, which is sort of what Cyberpunk tries to portray?
The great selling point of saying that you are "fighting for the future of humanity", is that a huge segment of your audience are going to fill in their own ideas of what that means.
Never donated to Wikipedia. Going to do so now.
Ditto here from Australia 🤣🇦🇺 FEM 🖕🖕🇦🇺
A friend of mine who usually donates 20 US dollars each year decided to donate 100 this year because of what Elon wrote :-)
I think I’ll read up on the Streisand effect and then I’ll donate for the first time too.
It’s always best to choose a monthly subscription donation, even if it’s low, because regular monthly donations allow organisations like Wikipedia to have a steady income and plan for future expenses.
I don’t use it but I’m donating now
I'm a regular contributor to Wikipedia now. When I made my most recent contribution, I thought to myself that this is exactly the kind of resource that that idiot Musk would try to tear down. And here we are! 🙄
@aerynsunx ~ May I suggest the word "vile" instead of "idiot"? Musk is cold and calculating.
@priscillamoore5736 Better yet, use both.
@@priscillamoore5736 Vile is a good description but diabolical is better.
Musk will try to block anything that says anything negative about him and that includes AI.
@@priscillamoore5736 While you're 100% correct, I'd also argue he is an idiot, thus making him a vile calculating idiot.
Your intellectual dishonesty and bias are showing.
Elon was raised in South Africa during Apartheid. It ended there. He just bought the American Presidency so that he can help recreate it here.
Welcome to your new oligarchy
new, sure, but america has been an oligarchy for a very long time. im not saying that both sides are equally as bad, but they sure are leashed by the same, evil masters.
Thank goodness China is running Africa now. It'll finally give the left a new group to blame and unleash their anger on.
A damn Kleptocracy
St. Luigi's mission isn't done
@tracymetherell8744 If not for censors I could help. But your channels control you here.
I have donated to Wiki in the past. I was going to skip it this year because money is tight, but to flip a middle finger to Elon, I can spare a couple dollars. Just donated. Thanks Steve!
It's quite easy to set up a recurring monthly donation.
Just $4 or $5 per month can be easier than $50 or $60 annually.
(And charities generally prefer that way, because it gives them a more predictable budget.)
Here in Italy we can give 0.5% of my taxes to an 'entity' we choose and I give that money to wikipedia... it's not very much... about €50 per year
That's more than most people give, thanks!
@@fudalefu1 Facts 💯
Spouting "WOKE", as a _random_ definition of _anything,_ is the same as saying "I'm a fascist".
Yep
And saying “All politicians and political parties are the same.” is code for “I’m too lazy/uninformed to know the differences and the impact they have on my life.”
At the very least, it means "I'm an unwoke zombie despot cultist".
I appreciate the irony of using "fascist" which is also broadly applied to things it doesnt describe
@@escape209such as?
I saw a recommendation recently that suggested on January 20 during the inauguration, we should cancel Twitter memberships. Just passing the idea along in case it also appeals to others.
Good idea, wanted to do it but I'll wait for that very day. 😅👍
🎵 It's the fiiiiinal coooouuuntdoooown.... 🎵
Too late, I deleted mine the day that Musk's takeover became official.
If you're still on twitter, you're perpetuating the problem.
I'm gone already
I would love to, but I never stooped to a twit account 🙂
I remember this guy now, it's been many years, and this video showed me exactly why i never took him seriously. Didn't take long before he started throwing the buzzwords for those who disagree.
Never donated to Wikipedia before. Happened to have other charities. But the second I saw musk's post, I set up monthly donations. It didn't hurt financially, though, because I just canceled all my Amazon services, since Bezos bowed down and tithed to Trump.
Not saying all this to virtue signal or whatever. I'm just hoping everybody else is paying attention to where they are putting their money right now. We have to make sure that these things backfire for Trump and Musk. Support the people they are trying to hurt and punish those who curry their favor.
This!!! If people continue giving their money to the likes of Bozos and Musk, we enslave ourselves further. Express your freedom of choice and shift your consumption habits to local businesses. With the shitstorm that is coming, you'll have to make sacrifices anyway, why not make them while supporting your neighbors at the same time. The average american spends $91 dollars a month with Amazon, so just think about how we could transform local/state economies if we shifted most of those dollars to local businesses. 68 cents of every dollar you spend with a local business/product stays in the community/state, versus only 40-42 cents of each dollar spent with a corporate chain/Amazon.
Same
Good plan.
Excellent!
I literally just cancelled all my Amazon subscriptions this morning as well.
This was not the way I expected to learn CRT no longer stands for Cathode Ray Television
Cathode Ray Tube. But close enough.
Ditto
If we can keep our libraries alive and free, we won't have to worry about Wikipedia. And I say IF!
Libraries are often stopping weekend and evening hours. College libraries charge non students a subscription fee. Many public libraries don't have research material. NYC Public Library had amazing books but required use of older or more specialized books in the Library. National Archives tend to be marvelous (UK National Archives have downloadable PDFs of released government files, not sure what the US National Archives has on-line.
They're complementary, not replacements of one another. A LOT of people all over the world don't have access to a good local library for various reasons. But basically everyone now has a smartphone, and Wikipedia exists in a huge number of languages. (plus AI translation, which for all its issues is still a net good for basic access to information)
Woke boils down to just not being an a-hole to other people.
Treat people the way you wish to be treated.
Jesus taught that.
Woke started in the Black community as a way to describe us learning mutiple things like: Addressing our truma via therapy, acknowledging out part in our own oppression amongst many other cultural revelations. Racists MAGA got wind of us trying our best to heal and grow via Wokeism and they turned the term into something they could debate about and spit on.
Edit: The Woke saga is the best and most recent example of the mechanisms of oppression of POC. Most people don't even know where it started but they now have an opnion on it.
Hopefully, your parents taught you that.
Woke comes from the African American community. It means to be aware. As in stay woke. Stay alert. Know what is going on around you. It is not what it has been captured to be. It is not all the things that other people are trying to turn it into. It is not the golden rule. So yes woke is a good thing to be. But it's not about doing to others as they do unto you, that is a golden rule. Stay woke. And keep your head on a swivel. You're going to need that with Trump in the White House. And all these clowns in the cabinet.
Well, Jesus also taught to pay tribute to the occupier.
That makes him kind of a traitor to his people.
@@JZsBFFjesus also drove businesses from places of worship _with a whip._
because its one of the easiest ways to fact check things, which scares any republican.
Scares any *fascist* you mean.
I understand the sentiment, but never forget that the political spectrum is a circle. If you push too far right or left, you end up with fascism.
@evananderson1455 lol no. Stop believing debunked horseshoe theory.
Dude didn't even read Wikipedia's own report on the topic. Single source Andy over here.
"Let me humbly suggest" - Says the man behaving in the most self-righteous and least humble manner possible.
You'll never be able to see anything outside of your own personal political viewpoint if you keep behaving like this and believing the first article you read on a topic.
Minor correction. Money doesn't turn people into assholes. It's just that the kinds of people who would do the exploitive things it takes to make that much money, kinda have to assholes. Good people who actually treat their employes fairly, can't get that obscenely rich in the first place, and even if they somehow did, they'd most likely donate most of it to charities or otherwise invest in publicly funded projects which help make the world a better place for everyone, not just themselves.
As a saying I've grown quite fond of goes, power doesn't corrupt, it just reveals whatever corruption was already there all along.
Maybe there's some substantive evolution here. I remember in the RayGun years of the 80s, it was LITERALLY believed that the more lucre you obtained for yourself the better a person you were. All sorts of adulation was bestowed upon "biznezmin", and people scored upper-moral- ground points along the lines of what their bottom lines were. Well....at least we have created SOME distance (small as it may be) from that!
@@Thousandaire-n7o: The 80's was the decade of Reganomics, of course it glorified the wealthy elites, and the legacy of that decade is why working-class conservatives to this day still vote against their own interests in favor politicians that have been so thoroughly bought out by corporate interests.
@@Thousandaire-n7o In The U.S.A. it is currently referred to as Prosperity Gospel. Which is essentially the idea that God gives good people money. If you don't have money you're just not good enough, and those with money are the best people (or agents of the Devil). There are a lot of interesting video's examining it if you are curious about additional information.
Worded wisely.
I like tp say ‚money only brings out what‘s inside you already‘.
In that regard it‘s similar to alcohol. You have the people that get funny, those that get the blues and the aggressive ones..
Thanks for the reminder to donate.
I never bothered donating to Wikipedia, I always figured someone else would do it. I honestly didn't particularly care when I started your video, but five minutes in, and I'm convinced. Totally reversed my perspective on the subject, thank you!
Mr Free Speech doesn’t really like free speech against him. Funny how that happens
when elon says he likes free speech it is an incredibly thin disguise for his actual thoughts, being that he likes racism
Twitter is the most "free" social media site next to maybe 4chan. Idk why you think he's against free speech.
Also, here's you regularly scheduled reminder to delete your twitter accounts. Don't just leave and move to another platform. Delete it completely.
Check out Malcom Nance and his advice on building a resistance movement. He's got a great plan for x. You won't regret it!
Never had one, never will!
Did it before he took over as I saw the writing on the wall.....
I deleted mine the day he took over but not before tweeting that he's a r*tard.
I'm leaving it there (with a final "f this" and a shameless self-promotion of my tumblr) to drain whatever resources it drains by being hosted on a server somewhere. That does cost money, it's one reason sites like photobucket went back on their original promises to keep stuff free forever.
My daughter's school doesn't allow students to use Wikipedia as a source. I constantly tell her to go to sources listed at the bottom of the page.
No school does. No University does. The information is usually accurate - but it isn't reliable. They aren't actually synonymous. I always advise students to start with Wikipedia, but never end there; and never ever quote it as a source.
I’ve donated a couple of times to Wikipedia. Musky just gave me the incentive for another donation.
Good point, I just decided to donate a second time this year!
Honestly I was tempted to donate but haven't until this video.
@@nancykerrigan and also after this video
They prefer the uneducated. Easier to talk into stupid stuff, like voting against your own interests
Ok, Elon. This is what we'll do.
1. Leave Twitter
2. Donate to Wikipedia
3. Expose fascists
My favourite Wikipedia fact is that for a while now it has banned using the Daily Mail (a hard right wing mainstream UK newspaper) as a cited source for its articles, as it does not consider it a reliable source of impartial and accurate information.
It openly supported Fascism during WWII . Still does .
@@ZuluRomeo I use that page (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources) all the time as a quick way to determine whether or not a news article is likely trustworthy. So incredibly useful. It goes into detail about why a source is dodgy, including specifics like “source is generally reliable but has a conflict of interest around this one specific topic”
The Daily Mail and the Daily Express lie, so openly, so blatantly and so obviously, and often so ludicrously that there cam be no doubt that it is their intention to encourage the growth of fascism. And yet too many people, especially working-class people, think of reading these papers as being part of their daily routines.
Wow that’s awesome 👏
I wouldn't line a birdcage with the Daily Mail.
If your god is against the spread of information, is your god really worth worshipping?
No god, or indeed any being, is worth worshipping.
What does a god need with a starship???
That's why I worship Sobek crocodile god of fertility.
May your sperm be everflowing and your crocodiles plentiful.
@@JJ-qo7th false gods!
@@CathrineMacNiel all gods are false. Always.
An overly emotional rant that hurts your overall message by providing defense for discrimination. L video.
Just donated $20, thank you President Musk for reminding me what a valuable service Wikipedia provides
Musk isn’t the president! He’s the First Lady!!😉
Wikipedia had pages devoted to history and culture from all over the world. OF COURSE IT SHOULD HAVE INCLUSION!
Dam right! It’s not just information for Americans or anglophones, but for as many peoples as possible
I grew up in Venezuela (I was a dual citizen, living in the U.S. when I wrote this), and around 2010 I was shocked at how little information concerning my Latin American childhood and earliest adolescence I could find online-not just in Wikipedia, but ANYWHERE-and what a contrast that was to the surfeit of information regarding the U.S., or to a secondary extent Western Europe, there was, gumming up the tubes.
Specifically, I was trying to find the radio pop charts for Caracas in the late 1970s … turned out, I couldn’t even find a record of such basic information as what t.v. stations we’d had, or what their broadcast channels had been! (If you’re curious: 2 - RCTV; 4 - Venevisión; 5 - TVN 5, more commonly just called Canal Cinco; 8 - VTV; I could’ve sworn there was a channel 10 or 11, too, sporadically, but I never could quite recall the details.)
So I went down a rabbit hole then, and realized that, had I wanted to know when a particular Chuck E. Cheese in rural Wyoming had closed, I would’ve found a date, its exact address, its menu, who had serviced the robot mouse, a list of inspection dates … anything and everything! Had I wanted to know who Venezuela’s most famous pop singer of the late 1970s was, I’d have come up the goose egg. (It was Jose Luis Rodriguez, by the way … or “El Puma,” rawr.)
The situation got better in the ensuing years, but you’d be surprised at how tilted the playing field remained. It’s one thing to intellectually appreciate how heavily the Internet privileges the world’s robber baron nations over the rest of us, but quite another to have viscerally apprehended the fact of one’s erasure.
And it’s rather a big deal: I was in my (cough) early fifties (cough) as I wrote this, and in not too long I would be dead … followed, inevitably and over time, by my entire cohort. One day, it’ll have been as if the 1970s occurred only in the U.S.A. and across Western Europe … but not in Latin America, OR across the African continent, OR in Southeast Asia! The details of all these lives, forgotten; the struggle against both colonialism and empire, not only lost, but … erased; the liberation struggles of the decade-of women, of queer people, of people of color, of the poor, of the disabled, of the disenfranchised writ large, obliterated, and rewritten solely from the perspective of the victors.
I didn’t want that to happen. To whoever reads this: it can still be avoided, but complacency won’t get the job done. It’s good that Wikipedia actively pursue inclusion … if only more organizations would!
Sorry for the long monologue, but this topic was closer to me than anyone who’d known me ever seemed to guess.
Thanks for the information. If E.M. wants people to stop donating to Wikipedia, it is a good reason for me to donate immediately to it!
I just contributed $30 to Wikipedia.
There was nowhere to dedicate my contribution to Elmo, but he inspired me to make a contribution.
This, they said too much criticism of D_Trump led to him getting a lot of free advertising and exposure. Let's hope this helps Wiki to grow a bit!😂
Good job, I'm about to do the same.
Wikipedia is a global treasure.
this guy just hates elon that's it
I just decided to increase my donation to Wikipedia.
I love these people who claim to be the "true Americans" yet don't realize that the Declaration of Independence was the ultimate form of "woke DEI". We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
If it said "all people" you would be spot on.
@@NikolaHoward True
@@NikolaHoward it is fair to understand "men" as humankind, so it is all people
@@NikolaHoward To be fair Man had several uses back then. There is also a it's where their should be an its because it's used to be the possessive.
IT was for it's time though super woke cause even saying all males was super woke for the time of literal people sanctioned by god herself.
The appendix of Nineteen Eighty Four that describes the history of Newspeak famously suggested that this entire passage from the Declaration of Independence would be reduced to the single word "crimethink" because its ideas were completely counter to those of The Party and of Big Brother.
As soon as I even saw the video title, I was thinking, "let me guess, they told the truth about him and it didn't sit well with him."
I am a wiki volunteer editor. I think it’s time to add to the article on President Musk to include his recent failure to shut down the government.
I'm on the left, but you seem biased.
@@archmage_of_the_aether Musk did almost shut down the government by showing his disapproval and threatening politicians for passing a simple funding bill.
@@archmage_of_the_aether well Im male mother and you are wrong.
keep your biases to yourself
I use Wikipedia. I found some errors in themes I know. For example, what it says about the University of Puerto Rico, Mayagüez Campus. So, I don't trust it 100%.
I've donated to Wikipedia three times so far. I can't imagine not having it as a resource.
Ah, good ol steve, it's been a while, the biggest anita sarkesian defender that ever lived. that should let anyone competent know how credible this guy is, if the video didn't already discredit him before that.
Certified clown status.
Standard pitch: get involved, edit Wikipedia articles. For techies, contribute to sister project Wikidata
I wish Elon was Trump’s age so he would certainly be gone forever within a few years.
One of the many good things about Wiki is the complete absence of all those irritating , intrusive and, frankly, insulting advertisements. As a result of your excellent video here, my donations to Wiki will double in future.
I am really looking forward to “X” becoming the new “MySpace”.
Yes! It will become lastweeks newspaper.
Getting there fast. Musk has resorted to pulling checkmarks from his far-right critics today.
Check out Malcom Nance and his advice on building a resistance movement. He's got a great suggestion regarding x.
@@Jaina1971 damn that's wild. So much of a control freak that he can't even handle right wing critique of his actions existing.
And so, he made it so "verification" is now not a marker of being functionally verified by the public as accurate, but now:
1. Bought
2. Revoked to his personal convenience (hint, neona**s don't get theirs revoked)
@@Jaina1971 He also forces checkmarks on his more popular left-wing critics.
It's free access to humanity's information and he doesn't want people to have that.
Maybe its a region thing, but i have never heard someone say "wikcy-pedia" ive always said and heard "wicka-pedia" just caught me off guard at first 😅
Elon Musk's suggestions and "decrees" just make me want to do the exact opposite.
Then donate
Elon has worn out his welcome…
He needs to be "adjusted" as he will never stop or be restrained by morality / laws. One hopes he adjusts himself, but history shows that does not happen.
He wore out his welcome a decade ago. I lost all respect for Grimes when she started dating him and let him knock her up.
Money corrupts the weak
It's time to recognize that Elon is not an honorable American
Citizen. He has failed to follow the rules governing his request
to stay in America by violating the terms of his visa.
It's time to revoke his citizenship and deport him.
Oh yeah, do not forget to fine him heavily.
Remember Luigi?
We need another Luigi.
Exactly. it’s a gateway. It’s a place to start the exploration into the pursuit of knowledge. BUT YES CONTRIBUTE TO WIKIPEDIA.
1:25 Well said. Speaking as an academic librarian, I encourage students to do their preliminary research using Wikipedia and Google, among other tools, to get a general idea about their topic before they dive into the university's databases. It really helps to see the entries themselves, but also the citations and links to other articles. I donate to Wikipedia a couple of times a year, and muskRat's tweet to the contrary made me donate more than I usually would.
Elon has gone full fascist, a fascist's enemy is education.
Considering his background that's totally unsurprising.
Exactly. Elon is against anything that proves he's wrong. Incredibly stupid considering SpaceX and Tesla are successful only because of their effective interaction with reality.
Yeah fascist bought twitter and ended censorship.
he also openly endorsed a german far-right wing party. right around the time a sympathizer of that party did a terror oopsie.
@phillip ... ''gone'' ?? Have you been living under a rock ?
I donated to Wiki for the first time last month. I’d really be upset if it does get shut down. No regret
between RUclips for general processes and Wikipedia for specific details
I have learned how to hunt, surf, build surfboards, build and wire guitars, overhaul old Porsche engines, work on newer Japanese engines
finding details like bullet sizes, bolt sizes, engine displacements, definitions, I mean Wikipedia is the promise of the INFORMATION AGE
Wikipedia is the reason why the internet was invented. Not literally, but it very much is in the spirit of the internet's invention. Without credible information sharing sites such as Wikipedia, then what would the internet really be doing for society? I can only look at so many cat videos & porn in a day. We need something more in our lives than frivolous entertainment. In my mind, Wikipedia goes a long way in validating the internet's place in our society.
Interestingly, you generally don't see conspiracy theorists quoting Wikipedia. That's more of an endorsement than anything else, and I am 100% positive that people who use the term "do the research" DON'T mean "using Wikipedia"
If I had billions of dollaroos, I too would rarely be out of the news, but mostly for my fantastic humanitarian work and using my money to help society where the state is failing, not for being a wank.
If he were to stay wanking all day in his grimy bedroom he'd have been so much more liked
If I had that kind of money there would be hundreds of well funded animal shelters.
Sadly the mindset required to acquire that wealth necessarily means you would not be generous. Its why id way most multi-millionaires are some degree of psychopathic because it requires the lack of empathy for the lower classes.
Ah but if you were evil you'd get more strokes.
And Musk would hate that, which is why he continuously complains about the charitable efforts of Bezos' ex-wife who is trying to do good with her half of the business.
Hes mad that Wikipedia exposes him for the fraud he is, as a man that came from extraordinary wealth who likes to pass himself off as a hardworking, self made genius.
I have never donated to Wikipedia , but I will from now on , as much as I possibly can
, let’s flood wiki pedia with donations .
If I have learned anything in the last few weeks ,
is to do the exact opposite of what the new CEO of the USA INC . Musk. Wants me to do .
The world is becoming a worse place because too many people conflate “having a lot of money” with wisdom …
I think a lot of that comes from “Prosperity Doctrine”, the fallacious idea that since God blesses the good, the seemingly blessed (e.g. rich and/or famous) must be good. The idea (already in opposition to the Bible by the way; see Matthew 5:45) worked its way into the general consciousness and merged with “He’s smart, he must know everything!” to form the modern idea that because someone looks like they know how to do something, they must have a valid and useful opinion on every subject.
Before "DEI" the buzzword was "Affirmative Action".
Imho DEI covers much more.
they went with "equality of opportunity instead of equality of outcome" for a few years; ie. if 2 people are able to apply for the same CEO position, then equality must exist. Analysing who gets the job in any way is communism and evil. End of argument.
@ulrikof.2486 it would but affirmative action was a very advanced and needed program when it came out. You wouldn't have DEI without it.
When Redditors get RUclips channels. Easy downvote. Stay at home dad vibe is strong with this one.
I donate to Wikipedia every year. It is a terrific resource since we don't all have Encyclopedia Britannica in our houses any longer.
And it's so much more than an encyclopedia. It's a truly living document. Literally millions of documents. I remember when I first discovered it, a few years into its life and as a massive geek I thought, "It's the 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!'"
The reality is that it has become more than that. Any human being on earth, with literacy and a network connection can add to the document. It may be the most democratic entity to ever exist on planet earth. When discussing the positives and negatives of the internet, there are many, many cons. But I honestly believe that Wikipedia on its own may end of being the one pro that offsets every single con. It's that valuable to us. And I've given many times, small amounts, over the years.
I mean if President Musk wants Twitter to compete with Wikipedia, he should start requiring source citations for “facts”’posted there. Although we all know already how much the right has an aversion to actual research and source citations.
Or facts .
Good take, it should be done.
Sorry, this is pretty unhinged
What is?
Rant about dei being any thing but discrimination.
I agree, the richest person on the planet owning the most visited information source on the planet is unhinged. Let’s all hope Wikipedia stays free from his political bias.
I donated to Wikipedia for the first time this year myself.
me too. Grüße
He better not try to hurt Wikipedia, I've put too much of my time into it for it to just be wiped away
So a lot of things you said are not on his wikipedia so are they not true???
Me too, I'm almost 45, and I remember how it was before Wikipedia, when you went to the library, trying to find informations on a subject inside a small collection of books that were almost always already way outdated when you opened them... if they were available.
So, my 2025 New Year's Resolution will be to make a monthly contribution to Wikipedia, and it will be thanks to you 😉
Im 34 and I remember using the old books to write papers. It was terrible. I always laughed when teachers were all you can't trust wikipedia, use this 80 year old encyclopedia instead.
2014: He's Tony Stark!
Elon Musk is the Tony Stark we ordered from Temu.
@@danwincen1That's even an insult to Temu 😅
Phony Stank!
@@danwincen1 but we have obnoxious rich white guy at home
Anyone calling the idiot who can't even build a car correctly "Tony Stark" should be ashamed of themselves.
Why wouldn't anyone not want to be awake?
The more I hear about Mr Musk the more I feel his belief system is not good for America.
Just gave $30 to Wikipedia. Bite me Elon.
Just donated $10, wish there was a function where I could write in a certain someone's name or write a message. They'd probably have to hide mine due to profanity.
Musk can start singing, "The Way We Were." If you aren't sure of the reference, I've heard about this online encyclopedia where you can look it up. 😅
Just donated $20 as well because of this news.
Have been donating my $25 each bear since 2017. Balanced information needed support even back when Elon wasn’t quite as terrible as he’s today. More so today.
Nice!
lol you really did it with this video. I am going to donate to wikipedia 15 Euros. Grüße
And just to spite Elon Musk, I donated to Wikipedia!
Good job. Wow. Really showed em.