Air Jordan 4 Fire Red
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Air Jordan 4 OG “Fire Red”
Style Code: DC7770-160
Color: White/Black-Tech Grey-Fire Red
Release Date: November 28th, 2020
Price: $200
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I got my pair yesterday, had some creases too but Im happy with them. I can care less about the creases cuz i’m wearing them today.
*Can’t care less
Exactly I thought the same thing
If you’re really worried about it, you can always remove the creases by the ironing method!
Right! People, still complaining about the natural creasing from actual real cow hide leather used for their $200 pair of jordans. Those concerns baffle me when the shoes are going to crease when walking in them anyway. That’s a clear partial indication of how authentic the quality of the shoe is. Now if stitching is off, or glue stains, paint issues or even build and shape of the shoes is the main concern then I get it. I can care dafuq less about creasing that will occur once you rock em. They’re mass produced so the resale value is literally “a dollar over lunch money”....not by much!
Not uncommon for 4's to crease though.
"There is not one shoe that is an OG colorway that Jordan wore on the court that's not gonna be worth somethin." FACTSSS
For the prices Jordan brand need to treat us better with quality control I remember when Jordan’s was great quality in the early 90’s and Jordan’s was 99$-120$ how prices go up an quality go down 🤦🏽♂️
Inflation, dollar is worth less
Wrong!!!!!!! Jordans has never ever been "great quality" JB has been using cheap ass materials since day one! I got all of the 99 4s DS and I can tell you right now saying that any of them are great quality would be a crime! Any and every pair of Jordan that's ever been made has never been "great quality" if you ever stored them you would know where I'm coming from.
@@C0bbler_J0nes all the jordan 4s used that closed or open cell poly that would crumble even if it was never used and jordan 1s really ain’t all that. You pay for style on top but you have a similar rubber gum sole like a vans shoe lol ik still baffled at the general cost of the shoes, they just got everyone sucker hyped
@@C0bbler_J0nes so you saying the 80’s leather quality wasn’t better than the last 10yrs ? They make tumble look like it’s genuine or better leather that’s an illusion homie the leather on the Jordan 1 retro ( OG) was great quality now paint from then I must say no they didn’t get it right but leather quality is what I’m speaking on
Rediculous. All the $ we pay. They should get the sh!t right. Take there time don't put so many sneaker out in one year. We used to get one model a year. Maybe 3 to 4 colorways. I remember quality back then. Probably cause they weren't overdoing the sh!t.
They shock dropped all the defective sneakers first. Whoops.
Not true whoops 🤡
@@robgotti___ yeah, tell that to all the people who paid full price for sneakers with various issues. yeah ummmm whoops
My pair of shoes are defective too
😂 at least I’m not the only one
These are mass produced. They will have defects. This type of leather wrinkles and creases very fast.
Just a heads up before people drop $200.
If that stuff doesn’t bother you, go for it.
Kinda sad the youth sizing didn’t come with hangtag :(
Minor creasing and little glue spots don’t bother me, creasing gonna happen anyway with wear but if it’s a big ass crease or scuffed big noticeable differences I’d be upset other than that it’s a cop cause I know every pair isn’t going to be superb
Exactly. I dont care creases on all my Js. Otherwise no point having shoes only for display hahaha
They charge an arm and leg for these shoes anymore, Nike step the quality-control up please!!! You don't know how sad it is being broke, saving some cash for some shoes, and then you get them and there all f***** up☹
Faxxxxxx 😭😭
Stop buyin then
@@chazhawthorne102 bro what??
@@papasaiyan11 Which word u didn't undastand?
@@chazhawthorne102 u sounded dumb bro stop buying like bruh
I think the extra tight cuts, especially the toe being much more sleek than any recent 4 I can think of must make production more difficult, which is why we're seeing more flaws. As for B-grades being shocked dropped. You could be right. It's also possible that since its such a mass release with so many pairs, production was rushed. GR's tend to be going this way lately.
I got a W on these and they’re 🔥, but the PSG 4s leather quality feels better.
damn deadass? i wanted those but since i hit on the fire reds i was thinkin maybe i dont need em. you think there better? still a valid cop even though i got the fire reds?
seanosx I was wondering was the psg 4 quality better. Thx for that info and I will be going after those instead of these fire 4’s that almost everyone I know has bad defects.
@@nxxxck yeah still valid cop. Fire Reds are still a classic, but 1 to 1 PSGs quality is definitely better hands down.
@@RocStewart86 Yeah I won Fire reds for adults and toddlers foe shock drop and the official release and quality still questionable. PSGs hands down.
My box lid came with a huge hole in it. Looks like a fire extinguisher landed on it.
Call Nike and send that back!
@@abowolewa I actually just did and they can't or won't do anything about it.
@@DeonMitchel That's some BS ❗
@@abowolewa Yeah but the shoes are fine. If these were my size I wouldn't care but now I have to secure another pair and swap the lid.
@@DeonMitchel that's a lot of work to be done over a damaged box while shipping
I’m happy with my pair. The slight creases of the “baby calf leather” used for upper gives the shoe more character. The leather used for these have a natural broken in look due to the soft texture and pre treatment process the leather went through before building the upper around the foot mold. Nike wouldn’t release B grade Quality products without indicating that as it would violate quality control standards & regulations upon shipment from the supply chain. This is also why the leather would have a smooth appearance on one shoe but possibly have the creasing wrinkled look on another due the leather’s natural structure. I work in leather goods and men’s designer shoes so it’s easy for me to distinguish the difference between full grain leather (a slither of real calf on top of man made materials) vs baby calf (very soft and wrinkly structured leather) to the high quality elder calf leather used in top end shoes which appears to be more firmer and stiffer or harder.....PAUSE ....to break in.
Hi there, how would I be able to see if a shoe has synthetic leather from online, and also instore?
@@harishkugathasan7087 most shoe brands online have to indicate what materials are used for their products. It’s the law. Also for in store inquiries, you would need to talk to someone who works in high end leather goods because there’s emphasis on quality of build & knowing the different grade leather textures, age & how to treat it which is super important. Nowadays for hardcore vegans It’s challenging because brands know that synthetic leathers deteriorate and lose durability in their quality very quickly. And most brands now are moving away from the synthetics and settling for cloth/vegan friendly fabrics to substitute for those customers. A lot of these sneakers are made with a blend of full grain leather but supported by some man made leather like materials to give structure. But with Jordan’s, it’s mostly built with higher quality calf leather uppers. It all depends on which age calf is used for that model. Nike know this and would much rather supple and demand with quality products. This will partially explain why Nike/Jordan’s and any other premium products price point has creeped up a bit over the years.
@@Sgtgee Really appreciate this knowledge. Thank you!
The fact this shock drop batch might be B grades makes me feel better about missing out and having to wait on the official release.
This batch...let’s see maybe 50-60 thousand pairs made for the early release are certainly not B grades, or otherwise for Nike, it would go against domestic and international quality control regulations & standards. and by governed QC law requirements Nike has to indicate that by stamping B grade in their footwear or any other products of said case.
And the leather used for these is baby calfskin hide leather. By the soft and already wrinkled characteristics of baby calfskin leather, it’s mildly treated once cut, dried then painted over and dried again, hung and then precut and fitted around a foot mold to build the upper which stretches and distorts the texture of the leather a bit but gives the finished product a slightly broken in look.
Let’s face it, if you’re buying and rockin them, they’re gonna crease anyway. 🤷🏽♂️unless you one of those types to either walk weird and shit to avoid creasing even more or put those stupid ass crease protectors in them fucking up the shoes and your feet overtime. 🤦🏽♂️
@@Sgtgee right! You see what they did with the adult Melo 13s sent them right to the outlets
@@RonniedonnieBrown right, I remember that. And shoe and sneaker connoisseurs like myself can spot fakes, UA’s and B grades a mile away. and to be honest, some of them UA’s be having better quality standards than some of the authentic versions or B grades alone, but when you in the industry you see things differently. If you got just rock and have no fucks about the creasing unless you flippin! ✌🏽
Mine came in grade A+, rocked them today, big stepping. People looking like how?!?!?
I thought I was the only one with a bad pair 😂 Definitely returning! My mid soles are even fckd up. The black part is uneven with dips and scratches all around.
Next day edit: I called Nike for an exchange, same pair/same size. They said as soon as they get the noti that I shipped back the pair I have now, then they’ll send the exchange.
I feel like they’re trying to confirm real manual accounts with this drop, to identify potential bots.
It is not the same leather tho- psgs way better quality! They still 🔥 tho!
The Fire Red 4's are my favorite Jordan shoe. Just so happens that this is the first DNA vid I've seen. I'm really happy to run into your video today. I really appreciate your much detailed look at these shoes. I am waiting on these pair for Black Friday and I have learned a lot about what people are saying about the shoe. Proud subscriber and looking forward to more. Thanks.
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I love this shoe but I don’t like that the netting yellows but there is nothing I can do abt it. It’s a cop for me tho
It’ll look like that off-white Jordan 5 at some point lol
They needa start making the netting black or red on these and all the others
@@jewsh519 Then it doesn't match the OG which is the whole point.
@@kurtasa3884 don't care bruh they needa do something about the netting
@@jewsh519 just wear them as much as you can before they yellow. They’re gonna crumble eventually anyway
OGs KNOW.
THESE ARE GRAILS KIDS
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Maybe they shock dropped the pairs that have some QC control? Probably not but when you have glue stains and flaws like that, it might mean they had to make a ton of pairs and had to get them done quickly. Hopefully everyone will be able to get them in November. Cool video and review man.
at least it’s better than the breds midsole’s red and grey areas bleeding on each other , i can’t get over that
One more complaint: Started my return Friday because Nike told me that they cannot replace the shoe because it’s sold out and that they would have to refund me my money. My issue was scuff marks on the back right heel and glue separation on the front right midsole. As well as little black glue specs around the edges... I don’t understand but I do believe what you said the shock drop was to get rid of B grade shoes??! Again glad to know that I’m not alone😕🤷🏽♂️
I think the size 13 back tab is just bigger. I like the black stripe behind the laces. Breaking up the white makes it looks better on toe for me. But man.. these defects aren't flying with me. I am also "nit-picky". Lol Big ups DJ, you the man!
My right shoe has a toe scuff and creasing and looked like syrup all over it as well... wtf
Managed to win a raffle man. Just hoping the QC is good and not flimsy bruh. Wish they would start doing the retro cards again.
Can’t wait to receive mine they look really good
That “black line” between the leather is on the 1989 fire reds.
Well there ya go 🙌🏽 I just like that seamless look with the all white.
My left toe box has creases but when I put the shoe on you can Hardly tell they’re even there. I’m not mad at it!
@DNASHOW I just got mine and they came out good no glue marks or creases so maybe QC on some pairs were missed. Great vid.
Got my pair. They are perfect! ✌️
Those joints are 🔥🔥🔥I missed out on the shock drop but I have a pre order secured!!! A lot of people mentioned the defects they had on their sneakers, it's almost like they shock dropped B Grade or defective sneakers, so NOT COOL for the price. Great detailed review 👊🏾💪🏾💯 and I hope I get mine out of the good inspected batch release lol
Your vids are always dope DJ! The quality control on the shock drop is highly unfortunate which makes me a little less upset about taking the L lol. Hopefully the actual release pairs are better. Keep grinding! 🙏🏾💯
3 for 3 this week after not hitting on snkrs since the fire red 5s. Red 4 of white 5s and mocha 1s. Didnt really notice anything off with my pair but will do another once over to check them out
Great vid bro hopefully I can hit for retail on Black Friday these are a must
your intro makes me always watch all your videos.🔥🔥🔥
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I got my pair from Snkrs early last Friday. 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Great vid ! Glad I'm not the only one who had defects on my pair
Came here just to find out if the leather was the same as the psg...thanks as always...not worried about the creasing now...just treat it like skin condition periodically.
Psg leather definitely better than the fire reds
Great video DJ. Sorry it took so long to check it out. I missed on these too, had one bar of service at work. I had same quality issue with my Last Dance shock drop Fire Red 5s. Oh well. Can't wait to grab these in a few weeks.
I think they shipped all the B grade shoes out cause I got my pair in store and my shoes were in good condition no scratches just a lil baby crease but I got it out
Hello again, better late then never seeing this video. I plan on picking these up at StockX. I think these are great. So on the orange Nike tag, I would like to share that I slip this on my Nike Air elite golf bag along with my elite XL back pack. Added Nike touch of style for me. Thanks again for the review. Happy holidays !
Yooo those look 👀 🔥 lit tbh I need it now
I bought these off of stock x for 245 i feel like it’s pretty cheap for it being this early
i want to do the same thing but i’m afraid on how the shoe will come
I haven’t got them yet
If they are bad I’ll tell you ig
@@nowakowskiboys6450 thank you !
Heel tab is somewhat suspect. It’s the only flaw on my pair
Yo, tell me about it man, mine had minor creases but when I looked at my left shoe pull tab it was crooked. Smh. What was wrong with yours?
Great analysis Dj. I really appreciate your enthusiasm and insights. Have a nice thanksgiving bro.
I bought a pair of candy cane 14s and sold those the same day. Compared these to my 06 mars and huge difference from the netting, laces, tab height, tongue, in other words il take my 06 mars over these hands down
i hit bc of the shock drop, and mine are creased and have glue stains, also the back of mine hads minor paint chipping spots from the first time i opened it, first pair of fire reds. was hoping the resell was higher so i could sell and buy the cement 4s my grail, but they kinda are flopping and rightfully so, idk how they passed quality at nike
Mine had glue stains and the front of one shoe was scuffed.paint was off on the side also. Nike QC is trach
Resell will eventually go up. They an og Jordan 4
Because dey kno fools will still buy
yo i apreciate the vid great vid keep up the hustle man godbless stay humble man
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Took the L on the shock drop. Most definitely going for them on release day. Must have.
I hope they'll retro military blues
2022 ✅
Mine came with creases like someone was wearing them for months, they’re going back. Plus I hit on the mochas so I could care less for these 4’s
I hope these had as well air bubbles located inside the instep of the midsole part. Back when my 2012 pair went on some crumblin, it went off and it was the reason for some of that bouncy foamy feeling when worn.
The midsoles FELL apart in some cases 20 minutes I just bought a pair used and I’m restoring them. I used a chisel and the midsoles FELL APART just being touched
I just got my pair this January 2021. I stopped by my local Nike and was really shocked to see Fire Red 4s just sitting on the shelves. Apparently they had a restock that same day, and since I was very early and no one else was around, I easily got a pair for retail haha.
I’m just very happy that I got a pair, but even the restock pairs still have the same issues as the shock drop pairs.
The left shoe of my Fire Red 4s is absolutely perfect, but the right shoe is messed up. 1st there were marks for I guess when they were cutting the leather, but it was a very easy clean. 2nd, and this thing still bugs me, is that on the right shoe, the toebox is uneven, like you can see bumps on the leather and when you run your fingers across the toebox you can definitely feel that its uneven and bumpy. The left shoe on my pair definitely looks and feels like a b-grade, made for outlets, sneaker.
I don’t mind creases, cause leather shoes will crease eventually, but having uneven and bumpy leather on the toebox right off the shelves, it just doesn’t look nor feel good. My theory, Nike still had alot of reject pairs so those are the pairs they used for the shock drop last year and the surprise restock this year. Again, I’m still very happy to have gotten a pair after missing out on release, but c’mon Nike, I expect better quality control esp for a $200 sneaker.
Hit on snrkrs for the shock drop. Just got it today as I was watching this review🙌🏼
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got mines yesterday no issues straight fire
Just got a pair from snkrs exclusive access today. Hopefully they do well
my pair was totally fine! and it's fire !
I just got mine but the toeboxes aren’t identical. Talked to a snkr customer rep yet all they got for an option is a refund. QC on these sucked. Premium materials were used but poor craftsmanship
Been waiting on these since 2012 omg
those joints are fresh
I sent a pair of 2018 Concord 11s back to NIKE they were so flawed knowing they were to sell out and that I would have to pay resale for a replacement, G's I hope I can cop a pair and a decent pair or their going back too SMH.
7:01 my same exact thought
Wonder why some people are saying the leather is trash and some people are saying it’s psg leather? Jeesh hope it’s not inconsistent leather plus glue stains plus creases
Returning my pair the quality was so bad
Yea my jordan 4 fibas creased pretty bad and I only wore them 10 or 15 times. Ugh
I already printed the RETURN LABEL 🏷 jordan gotta get they shit together
U right on the shock drop theory !
Def gon triple up on these joints 💸 gonna be my first ever jordan 4 and it be a OG retro fire red colorway, YES!
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OGS KNOW
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Wish they used the Oreo 4 leathers on all the retros or the pine green/black 1's the buttery leather that you wont care creases is where its at.
mine came friday and i have the smallest scratch on the wing but other than that mine came beau tiful
Oufff your page is blowing up crazzy fam!!!
i gave them a month before i bought them so mine need to be crisp
Toe shape is off too, should be like the white cement which is like the OG
Can you compare these to the air jordan 4 what the ? Thanks !
yup, video drops tomorrow
@@DNASHOW Do one with the air jordan 11 concord breds too lol
Wow this is still a thing. I just got a pair of the retro lightenings. Def trying return them, terrible scuffs, marks, glue, paint out of line on the bottom. Smh
nice video very informative!
What leather is better these fire 4’s or the what the 4’s?
video dropping tomorrow
I have breds, cements that I almost feel I should buy these fire reds
get um man there soo clean and would go great with your collection
THESE ARE GRAIL
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Mine looked good 🤷🏾♂️
I wonder if the shoe comes like this today idk if I should go with the patent bred 1s or the fire red 4s
I bought these yesterday on goat
i got the jordan 4 fire red and hen i opened them. they where creased and they where DS
I feel like the shock drops on these 4 are the shoes that are b grade
I don't mind some minor creases. I had 2 pairs of the what the's and one had a bent back tab and the other one's wings didn't line up with the lace holes.
YO.
can u make a video with all your NIKE AIR versions 🥇
I think that shock drop was all defective shoes because everybody who got a pair shoes had flaws and creased..smh #gotem
I may double up on these I copped early and love em.... some glue on one of my shoes and it’s not size diff being 10s vs 13s for heel tab I wear a 14 and it is smaller from me looking but this is my 1st ever 4 so I wouldn’t have known the diff
Do you buy often off the second hand market?
No
Though it seems like there will be many pairs, what’s the best way to cop a pair, whether on line or at a store?
My psg’s came a lil fucked up also 🤦🏽♂️
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Thank you DNA for making such a great review. I do agree that the quality on the 2012 release was crap. Now the heel tabs and wing tabs on my pair are already cracked up and I don’t have a choice but to dump that shit off. Hoping I could cop one soon. Big fan from the Philippines yo!
You’re being very optimistic about why the shock drop pairs have some defects.
I have a feeling most pairs will be that way on the 28th.
I had the same issues on the White Cement 4s.
I understand they’re shoes and stuff will happen when you wear them but man...for $200 we shouldn’t have these issues out the box.
Can't complain wen u still gon buy
does it matter when it comes to the box with the LOGOS??? i mean every shoould at least 4 of every box by now lol. since they did a shock drop i already knew i was passing. i dont want a shoe full of creases without me wearing BRAND NEW. Do you think the shock drop was the B grades they were selling.
They were selling A- grade shoes 🤣
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Wassup bro do these run big? I’m a size 12. Should I go a half a size up or are they true to size? Dope review!
Get a 12.5 i wear a 12 in most things but Js have to go up a half sz in the new retros