The block number on the blue block D2AE-CA is the same as mine. It came up as 4 mains ,high out put ,cobra jet ,boss. Could you confirm that's correct,it'd have me feeling pretty good if that's the case 😊
@@thclevoking mine is a XE218940. I sonic tested it and it doesn’t have any core shifting. It’s a 4 bolt main. Has had a weld repair at the right rear lifter galley where they usually crack. I’ve had it for 30 years and am finally getting it built
Those 2 bolt pillow blocks are very common in zk fairlanes and ltd and xe falcons most were 302c i have had plenty of them in the past but yeah hard to find these days.
Thank you clevo brothers, my clevo has been in the shed parked for 5 years while I put my kids thrru private school. You have inspired me to go ALL IN and make it AWESOME. My F150 clevo is my dream. Thank you Thank you thank you. I'll get the money together and do it, I think I can do $30k on my engine, I have C6 and 9inch Already. Might need your help. Happy 2 pay. Love the channel. Thank 2 you I'm going to do this. 2022 is my Clevo year. Keep up the good work. Legends
@@thclevoking i dont know how to i have learnt most of my stuff from you guys seeing i was left in the lerch with my mechanic. I fully enjoy learning more cant wait to see next video on this cheers
Amazing the knowledge you are able to share with us brilliant outstanding video. I thought a pillow for your nut to rest on. Impressive I'll be checking mine soon.🙂🦘🇦🇺👍.🤞🤞🤞🤞.
Great stuff read a lot on this. You Brothers are on it. Also what do You think off the oil line bottom left front to the sender to the back off the block is it worth fitting Clevo street Engine Stroker 408ci Scat gear 4340 crank H beam rods SRP forged pistons rev it to about 5500 lot more work done on it. Sveno Mick XB Falcon on RUclips You will see it. great site You Boys have would love to see Your opinion on factory Heads have a good one. Ps all street work is what I do Thanks.
I bought a block with a 4ma crank in it and I noticed also that the top of the bores are ground out for the valves, l'm interested to know if it's a particular casting, l know that nascar blocks are cut aswell...
Am very happy with the compression at 165 consistently, bottom end seems very good, no leaks etc, we have had a few props over time and are told this 3 blade one is about as good as we can do for out of the hole performance with an Argo V-Drive @ 17% step up and soft clutch? She’s just a bit tired and wondering if a cam and set of heads might give it the extra pep for towing big boys out on a single ski? 🤔🤔
Awesome vid as always guys, i love the info & footage. Ive read about the pillow/nascar blocks in one of my ford books. Didnt some of the returned blocks from usa get sent to italy for the de tomasso pantera? or maybe that was a different batch
@@thclevoking Thanks for that mate. I don't plan to build a crazy huge Clevo anyway, probably around 400-450 HP if that. It's plenty enough for the street.
I'm surprised that the Nascar blocks didn't have screw in freeze plugs. Also have you noticed the Cleveland having cracking problems at the rear cam bearing? I have found 3 blocks that were cracked like that. It be an american made blocks with the problems.
Thanks for the info and keep those videos coming. Is it possible for me to order some cylinder heads from Australia and have them shipped to America or is it not worth it
@@thclevoking Do we really need 4 bolt anyway ? For a street engine ? I don't plan to thrash the life out of it and I'm sure the 2 bolt can take some punishment right ?
@@thclevoking You're a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for that. I am planning to finish my XD at some point and I will probably have a go at building my Cleveland myself. I am mechanically inclined and don't mind having a go. Just need to watch more awesome videos from guys like you and plan it all out and ask all the right questions. I wish you were in Sydney.
Hi boys, will be checking all 4 clevos now for pillow blocks!! 😂😂 Question, have a 302 in a speedboat, 165 compression across all cylinders but lacks a little down low punch, runs like a dream just not enough oooomf, can you recommend some mods to get it out of the hole better without a full rebuild??? Heads, cam, intake? Not sure just don’t have the $6k/$7k for a full rebuild, any advice would be apprecited? 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
MATE i dont care what anyone says,but for a boat you need cubic inchs,stroke it,for a 302 the more mods you do to it,[this goes for all motors]bigger cam and single plane manifold you take from the bottom to make more power up in the rev range.IF you didnt want to stroke then supercharge it
I hear you, she’s a social ski boat, rear mount, so blower deletes the engine cover and not safe for kiddies to get in and out of, have a couple of 351’s as an option but also a couple of XD’s that could use a stroker so might just do the swap for an already cammed 351 and stroke current 302 out to 393 and chuck that in the old XD? Was just hoping that a cam upgrade with some heads and/or intake manifold might be a cheaper option for a boat that only goes out 8/10 times a year? 🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@aussiesupersnake6642 Along with displacement comes torque. To get a boat on plane quickly requires torque. If the engine isn't turning (due to giant prop), it can't make torque. Sounds like the boat is propped for speed.
still runs a shit oiling system , so before you pay 1k and up for a lump of cast crap look at buying a Dart , the main advantage on the pillow block over a stock cleveland block that he fails to mention is they have thick sleeves and can be bored out 60 and sometimes 80 thou over , but they still are junk if you want revs
It depends what doing with it,these oem blocks were only meant for 300 hp as GT even with oiling system were not a problem,but with restrictors in a thick block they are good for 650 hp and 7500 rpm,after that you need a Dart/Arrow or Tim Meyer boss Cleveland block,if you have genuine 351 car for resale value,you better sticking to oem block
It’s just a std Cleveland block with pillows on the side they don’t even increase the coolant capacity if you had checked inside the water jacket you would have seen/felt that it’s no different to a std Cleveland I have one down the shed and have checked it. nothing to be excited about and worth no more than a std block... The XE block that had the full thickness pan rail and bulkhead are worth a lot more. The reason these pillows found there way onto the side of these late std castings could simply be, that the sand molding pattern was modified for the XE block and that Modified part to make the sand moldings was simply use in the production bock from then on
Yeah, maybe so - but the cool thing about them is that it showed how much Ford Australia was tinkering away with a discontinued US design with slow incremental improvements. It's a shame the clevo didn't get half the love the xflow six did back then with their alloy heads. 👍
Can't wait
Interesting!
i have a standard bore Nascar pilliow block 4 bolt mains XE192540
Well, well. Didn't know that.
The block number on the blue block D2AE-CA is the same as mine. It came up as 4 mains ,high out put ,cobra jet ,boss.
Could you confirm that's correct,it'd have me feeling pretty good if that's the case 😊
Cool video guys, love those Clevelands
I have a XE block and it’s at the machine shop now.
Nice mate they are pretty cool blocks did yours only have the two bolts in the four bolt main caps?
@@thclevoking mine is a XE218940. I sonic tested it and it doesn’t have any core shifting. It’s a 4 bolt main. Has had a weld repair at the right rear lifter galley where they usually crack. I’ve had it for 30 years and am finally getting it built
Number 2 and I think I have hit the jack pot. Great weekend to you all.
Those 2 bolt pillow blocks are very common in zk fairlanes and ltd and xe falcons most were 302c i have had plenty of them in the past but yeah hard to find these days.
Awesome video bro plenty of helpful information and tips as usual 👌
Thanks for that lesson mate,, we learn something new every day,,👍👍👍
Thanks for the history lesson! 👍
Cool video fellas.
I learn something new every time I watch a video of yours.
Iv got a 351 v4 cleavland 4 bolt mains bock numbers are d2ae ca and is 4 bolt mains
I would love to meet these guys in person great info learn more every vid keep it coming !!!
Thank you clevo brothers, my clevo has been in the shed parked for 5 years while I put my kids thrru private school. You have inspired me to go ALL IN and make it AWESOME. My F150 clevo is my dream. Thank you Thank you thank you. I'll get the money together and do it, I think I can do $30k on my engine, I have C6 and 9inch Already. Might need your help. Happy 2 pay. Love the channel. Thank 2 you I'm going to do this. 2022 is my Clevo year. Keep up the good work. Legends
Great video again thanks boys
Thanks to you guys i just found my 302 Cleveland is a d block sweet as
Pretty sure they don’t make a 302 D block you should check the stroke. We plan to make a video on the very shortly
@@thclevoking i dont know how to i have learnt most of my stuff from you guys seeing i was left in the lerch with my mechanic. I fully enjoy learning more cant wait to see next video on this cheers
Amazing the knowledge you are able to share with us brilliant outstanding video. I thought a pillow for your nut to rest on. Impressive I'll be checking mine soon.🙂🦘🇦🇺👍.🤞🤞🤞🤞.
There's plenty of meat there to drill and tap and make it four bolt mains
Great stuff read a lot on this. You Brothers are on it. Also what do You think off the oil line bottom left front to the sender to the back off the block is it worth fitting Clevo street Engine Stroker 408ci Scat gear 4340 crank H beam rods SRP forged pistons rev it to about 5500 lot more work done on it. Sveno Mick XB Falcon on RUclips You will see it. great site You Boys have would love to see Your opinion on factory Heads have a good one. Ps all street work is what I do Thanks.
Thanks mate, appreciate it. They are used on a lot of builds we have done in the past, but I haven’t used one personally yet.
Ohhhh yessss😁
I bought a block with a 4ma crank in it and I noticed also that the top of the bores are ground out for the valves, l'm interested to know if it's a particular casting, l know that nascar blocks are cut aswell...
Good info bro 🤙
What’s the other channel link?
The Brisbane brothers!
@@thclevoking champion that Holley setup vid be perfect
Thanks Clevoking. Do the pillow blocks have a different distributor shaft size at the bottom part of the dizzy?
Yes any clevo cast after 1979 had a small 12.5mm or metric dizzy shaft the earlier were 12.9mm or half inch
Am very happy with the compression at 165 consistently, bottom end seems very good, no leaks etc, we have had a few props over time and are told this 3 blade one is about as good as we can do for out of the hole performance with an Argo V-Drive @ 17% step up and soft clutch? She’s just a bit tired and wondering if a cam and set of heads might give it the extra pep for towing big boys out on a single ski? 🤔🤔
Awesome vid as always guys, i love the info & footage. Ive read about the pillow/nascar blocks in one of my ford books. Didnt some of the returned blocks from usa get sent to italy for the de tomasso pantera? or maybe that was a different batch
You lucky dogs! ;)
So what's the reason about not running the block with the offset cam tunnel machining ?
They are more prone to core shift and not very suitable for those real high power builds.
@@thclevoking Thanks for that mate. I don't plan to build a crazy huge Clevo anyway, probably around 400-450 HP if that. It's plenty enough for the street.
I like the Chinese safety boots mate
I'm surprised that the Nascar blocks didn't have screw in freeze plugs. Also have you noticed the Cleveland having cracking problems at the rear cam bearing? I have found 3 blocks that were cracked like that. It be an american made blocks with the problems.
Fuckin hell.. no offset on the cam tunnel?
Take it or leave it
Were Cleveland's made between 70-75?
After that are m blocks,?
We made clevelands in Aus from 1971 to 1982 and fitted them in f trucks and broncos until 1985
Thanks for the info and keep those videos coming. Is it possible for me to order some cylinder heads from Australia and have them shipped to America or is it not worth it
A few guys have asked when I priced up shipping options it wasn’t really viable for only one set
👌👌👌👌👌
Pillow blocks are little overrated. A clevo’s weekness is it’s cylinder and the ‘pillowing’ does very little to enhance strength.
Very good info mate. Can you convert a two bolt mains into a four bolt ??
Yes you can mate finding original four bolt main caps isn’t so easy in Aus best to search the us market for some.
@@thclevoking Do we really need 4 bolt anyway ? For a street engine ? I don't plan to thrash the life out of it and I'm sure the 2 bolt can take some punishment right ?
The 4 bolts are not any better then 2 bolts just some of the 4 bolt blocks have heavier main webs and pan rails
@@thclevoking You're a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for that. I am planning to finish my XD at some point and I will probably have a go at building my Cleveland myself. I am mechanically inclined and don't mind having a go. Just need to watch more awesome videos from guys like you and plan it all out and ask all the right questions. I wish you were in Sydney.
Got 1 in a 83 bronco 500 thousand ks on it
Hi boys, will be checking all 4 clevos now for pillow blocks!! 😂😂 Question, have a 302 in a speedboat, 165 compression across all cylinders but lacks a little down low punch, runs like a dream just not enough oooomf, can you recommend some mods to get it out of the hole better without a full rebuild??? Heads, cam, intake? Not sure just don’t have the $6k/$7k for a full rebuild, any advice would be apprecited? 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
165 seems pretty reasonable, what were you expecting?
I find most boats slow to plane tend to be over propped. FWIW
MATE i dont care what anyone says,but for a boat you need cubic inchs,stroke it,for a 302 the more mods you do to it,[this goes for all motors]bigger cam and single plane manifold you take from the bottom to make more power up in the rev range.IF you didnt want to stroke then supercharge it
I hear you, she’s a social ski boat, rear mount, so blower deletes the engine cover and not safe for kiddies to get in and out of, have a couple of 351’s as an option but also a couple of XD’s that could use a stroker so might just do the swap for an already cammed 351 and stroke current 302 out to 393 and chuck that in the old XD? Was just hoping that a cam upgrade with some heads and/or intake manifold might be a cheaper option for a boat that only goes out 8/10 times a year? 🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@aussiesupersnake6642 Along with displacement comes torque. To get a boat on plane quickly requires torque. If the engine isn't turning (due to giant prop), it can't make torque.
Sounds like the boat is propped for speed.
whats a pillow block worth these days
I saw this block on Gumtree recently for $750 ! A few I seen a year ago were going for $1500 😱👍
still runs a shit oiling system , so before you pay 1k and up for a lump of cast crap look at buying a Dart , the main advantage on the pillow block over a stock cleveland block that he fails to mention is they have thick sleeves and can be bored out 60 and sometimes 80 thou over , but they still are junk if you want revs
It depends what doing with it,these oem blocks were only meant for 300 hp as GT even with oiling system were not a problem,but with restrictors in a thick block they are good for 650 hp and 7500 rpm,after that you need a Dart/Arrow or Tim Meyer boss Cleveland block,if you have genuine 351 car for resale value,you better sticking to oem block
It’s just a std Cleveland block with pillows on the side they don’t even increase the coolant capacity if you had checked inside the water jacket you would have seen/felt that it’s no different to a std Cleveland I have one down the shed and have checked it.
nothing to be excited about and worth no more than a std block...
The XE block that had the full thickness pan rail and bulkhead are worth a lot more.
The reason these pillows found there way onto the side of these late std castings could simply be, that the sand molding pattern was modified for the XE block and that Modified part to make the sand moldings was simply use in the production bock from then on
Yeah, maybe so - but the cool thing about them is that it showed how much Ford Australia was tinkering away with a discontinued US design with slow incremental improvements. It's a shame the clevo didn't get half the love the xflow six did back then with their alloy heads. 👍
Cleveland something.. king's a bit of a stretch
You don’t give yourself nicknames mate it’s what people have called me for years that know me, cheers for your input though