The song Jinx is listening to in her hideout is actually her theme song from her debut trailer. Jinx has been my favorite character since she debuted in 2013
Silco is one fire of an antagonist! Note that to the end, he fell for the same thing Vander did. Caring, really caring for someone else. Silco became "weak" like Vander in the end.
Especially the scene when he talks to vanders statue and acknowledges/understands how vander must’ve felt not wanting to throw jinx under the bus cause he really does love her but at the same time his whole thing has been stopping at nothing to get his nation of zaun
In my opinion, the crux of arcane can be described as: The bonds of love cannot be unbroken no matter how hard you try. Real unconditional love will be both your greatest downfall and your saving grace, and you’ll be powerless to stop it. You see this theme in every single relationship in Arcane, some more obvious than others. Love is what makes and breaks almost every character. Love is what forges all of us, and love also hurts and scars us deeply. Warlord Ambessa’s realises that her love for her daughter makes her weak, and sends Mel away. Despite whatever walls and distance she keeps between them though, they love each other in a way that is unbreakable and ever lasting. Vi admits to Jinx (or perhaps Powder?) that there is nothing that she can say or do that can stop her from loving her, and break the care Vi has for her. Even in that scene where Cait and Vi break up for the first time on the bridge (having two break ups before you’re even together in the span of 2 days is the most certified lesbian moment but anyway) that bond similarly can’t be broken, and you even for a moment see Cait putting herself in the line of fire to protect Vi (Vi is such a damsel in distress but you don’t even notice it lol). That could have killed her. Her growing affection for Vi could have killed her and it didn’t. And finally, Silco and Jinx’s relationship concludes with silco literally dying for the love he has for his daughter. He sacrifices his life goal for her. Even after she shoots him accidentally (“jinxing” her fathers life, leading to her accepting her identity as a jinx) he cannot stop loving her. There is nothing she could do (murdering innocent people, hurting others seemingly for the fuck of it, even killing him, indirectly “jinxing” the cause he’s fought his entire life for) that bond can’t be broken. Idk sorry I got really into it
I feel like a lot of people misunderstand Silco cause yeah there is a level of manipulation but at the end of it all he did love Jinx. To make it easier think of Silco and Jinx like Thanos and Gamora
That's How I Saw It, But People Won't Understand That Because I Didn't Spell It Out For Them And Because I Was Never On Silcos Side. I Didn't Care That He Actually Loved Her. I Cared About Powder, Her Actual Sister, And Her Mental Health. Silco Is Evil, I Will Never Side With Him, No Matter How Good The Voice Acting Was And How Complex The Character Is. Throughout The Whole Show I Only Cared About Powder, Could've Cared Less For Anyone Else. Silco Was Manipulative... So Manipulative Infact, I Guess You Can Say He Even Manipulated Some Of The Fans Lmao.
Silco's whole deal was the end justifies the means, which is why he fought Vander. Vanders peace was stalling and not moving the goal forward. In his mind, anything can be sacrificed for a free Zaun... until it was his daughters turn to be sacrificed. He finally found something he cared for more than his revolution. He did care for her, but was also a evil, deceitful, manipulative terrorist. I found him interesting because he actually changed. I feel that's rather rare for a villain. Jinx by the end of the show is just broken. Its sad. I don't think she could come back and even if she could; she has at minimum, killed a dozen enforcers, caused massive property damage, and attacked the council. The last of which we don't yet know the results of. I sympathized with jinx, wished she could be saved, but she needs to be locked up. She is too far gone.
I see it less like Thanos and Gamora, and more like a dark Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson. Silco saw a familiar pain, the betrayal of a sibling-figure, abandonment, not being valued for your commitment to do what’s necessary for freedom… a kindred spirit. He loved her the way he wanted to be loved. He trained her to have the strength and fearlessness that he needed to develop in himself. He taught her to never trust anybody but him, because he was the only one that he himself trusted. He never sought to manipulate her with the goal of manipulation. He manipulated her with the goal of protecting her from the pain he’s felt, and from the world as he’s experienced it. Yes, he’s the bad guy. Yes he does evil things, but a major point of this show is to point out that darkness exists on both sides as a response to evil acts of the other. Silco was made out of the necessity to survive the oppression of the Upper City, as was Vander. Vander wasn’t willing to go to the lengths Silco was, but both became who they became out of the need to protect a daughter they saw as a reflection of themselves. You’re free to hate him. I hate him too. He’s a very hate-able character. But don’t outright refuse to understand a character or see the depth and reasoning they poses, just because you don’t like them. That’s the literal definition of willful ignorance, and you’re depriving yourself of experiencing a massive portion of the story that the series has to tell.
My favorite character, bar none, is Ekko. Schnee did a really outstanding breakdown of the character, and it really catapulted him into being my favorite character of the entire series. Piltover is corrupt, Zaun is corrupt, but Ekko is 100% about caring for those in need, and providing a safe place for the vulnerable. He isn't about politics... the only politics that he cares about are whether or not you are trying to help his people or hurt his people. Heck, the only reason they were going after Silco's shipment of shimmer at the beginning was because he was actively seeking them out to destroy them. So... anything that diminishes Silco's power is something that diminishes his ability to harm them. It is a messed-up kind of setting when that is a valid criteria for the "purest" faction in the series.
Yeah! I REALLY love the way they developed his character. I already loved his league counterpart, but arcane took the essence of the character and fine tuned every aspect perfectly to the new setting (I especially love the way they updated his hairstyle, keeping the white Mohawk shape while taking away the extra silliness of the original design and adding a hair texture that suits him was such a great little tweak. He still absolutely looks like himself, but more grown up and easy to take seriously.) And he is really the new heart of zaun, after the loss of vander. I can't wait to see him get his rewind device too, the bridge fight was such a perfect way to showcase that he already has the mindset of learning from his mistakes and anticipating other's next move
@@Drake844221 the league designs are effective for what they are, they wanted to learn harder into a punk vibe and the tall Mohawk gave him a clear silhouette that can be recognized even when the character is very small on a screen- I totally understand why they chose it. But the arcane design fits much better into the more serious setting where the silhouette aspect isn't as much of an issue. I love the way arcane took the base looks of the characters and then developed them into believable, real people
@@ijornhribrudkrvir No, you are right that quick recognizability on a screen from a distance is an important factor for League. It just doesn't help that it _does_ leave him looking a little silly when seen more up close XD Still, between Arcane and Seconds... the absolute pathos of the guy is glorious.
It’s interesting that earlier Ekko says that Powder is far gone but in that scene where he looks into Jinx’s eyes thinking that powder is still in there that there’s hope for the girl he loves. Yeaaaaa so In League there was voice monologues of both Jink and Ekko hinting that Ekko had a crush on Jinx before she went insane. Like the line “I had a crush… till you started talking to the gun” insinuating he’s seen her talking to her inner demons
Also, in "Legends of Runeterra" Ekko was the first person to call her by her birthname Powder and it`s implied at some point Ekko reminded Vi who was previously amnesiac that Jinx was originally her baby sister Powder.
Also, although Jinx often claims "Jinx stands for Jinx", there are hints that her past innocent self is still buried deep in her fucked-up, schizophrenic, scattered mind such as naming her minigun "Pow-Pow"(After Vi`s childhood nickname for her), "Fishbones", her one-eyed shark rocket launcher serving as her conscience and father figure(Hmm, what relationship in "Arcane" might have influenced that, I wonder?)and her tendency to end sentences with "der" as an alternative to "duh". Not to mention "I have the best intentions."
He's a complex character but objectively speaking, he's killed Vander, Milo and Claggor- seperated Vi and Powder, flooded the Undercity with Shimmer and enforced his rules by sheer force. Not to mention how he transferred his rage against Vander to Jinx - who is messed up by her trauma, to say the least. She suffers from her villainy because it will always lead her back to the turning point of the show - Jinx is a character with deep guilt, trauma and insecurity - and what did Silco do? He taught her how to weaponize all of that and she grew up to kill scores of people just to prove a point or show her loyalty to Silco. She never had any strong opinions about Piltover and The Undercity before or after she became Jinx - all she's ever cared about is acceptance.
52:40 Vi: Powder, it's okay. Jinx: It's Jinx now. Powder fell down a well! Mell: Well, then let her help you get out! Me: Lmao! That's a good response, man! 🤣
It's also to show that Jinx does not act like her age. She's mentally still the little gitl she was. So basically kids don't understand how to act appropriate and are more cuddly and carefree.
Just to point out, Jinx only wanted Vi to love Jinx, not Powder. As she kept calling her Powder, Jinx decided to have her life as a criminal so she says to Vi “I thought you could love me like you used to, even tho I am different” and shoots the rocket towards the Council. Maybe if Vi called her Jinx, none of that would have happened.
This series is definitely one to rewatch to catch everything. The music video for Enemy was great as a backstory, too. Love your reactions! Aloha from Hawaii! 🌺
Imma also say this, Jinx once again killed someone she loved on accident. Her brain heard the click of the gun and went immediately into fight mode so she grabbed her gun and shot at whoever caused the gun to click which happened to have been Silco. Milo was right, Jinx is a jinx and she realized it after killing Silco. Her kneeling in front of Silco like a small child and the light completely gone from her eyes just broke my heart. And then her accepting she’s a jinx, god this show pulls my heart strings. Also, she’s not wrong about Vi not loving her like she use to or how they’ve both changed. Before the events of ep 3 Violet would’ve seriously injured or killed Caitlyn, hell she wanted to go to war to fight the enforcers. Now she has feelings for Caitlyn, big enough feelings to pick her over “getting Powder back”. Also, Vi refused to call Jinx by her name except for one time to the council. That’s a sign of Vi not accepting Jinx because she’s not Powder. Jinx wanted to be accepted as who she was even if she’s crazy, she just wanted affection and a sense of comfort.
A lot of people tend to forget that Caitlyn is an enforcer and Vi would have never have been caught dead doing anything with an enforcer beforehand. Way too many people say that Vi didn't change, but that is a very fundamental change of her character.
I think after episode 3, Vi realised that her deadliest enemy was Silco - not Topsiders. She didn't even know much about him initially and in one night, he led to the death of three family members and changed her life. She was forced to partner up with Caitlyn because she wanted to find Powder and defeat Silco but after meeting Powder - she understood that her sister is part of the problem. During that time, of course she got to know Caitlyn and predictably, started caring about her as well. For Vi, there is no point in liberating the undercity if it means Silco's the one in control. He's already made the place much worse with Shimmer and the only pocket of resistance left is Ekko and the Firelights. She hasn't actually changed, because she was always capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong, even if the right thing means cooperating with people you've always hated. (Not dissimilar to the way Vander kept the Lanes free of enforcers, thanks to his agreement with Marcus' predecessor).I think both Vi and Jinx mirror Vander and Silco as characters. People love Silco and Jinx as characters (which is completely understandable) but that doesn't change the fact hat these two are objectively bad for the undercity. You don't fix a bad situation by making it worse. Silco and Jinx value loyalty, victory at any cost whereas Vander and Vi end up changing sides or cooperating with the other side in order to do the right thing.
Silco is my favorite character in Arcane. He was betrayed and almost killed by a man he regarded as his own brother, when all he really wanted to do, was to make an independent civilization, where they could live in peace. He truly did love Jinx, since he saw himself in her. (betrayed by a sibling). That is why my favorite line in Arcane is "We'll show them." Their relationship might've been toxic as hell, but it was real.
This dude is so messed up 😅 Same like silco lol. Vander there, obviously choose peace over civil war. Imagine there are two nations or city states that actually roughly on the same land. It's just top and bottom. It gonna be chaos. Better they need to improve the relation between the two ESPECIALLY, I talk about heimerdinger here. He is the founder. What stuff that forbid him to not unites the two places? 😅 What undercity need is simply just some security stuff. Wealth security, crime security, health stuff, etc. Some quality of life stuff. It's not about a new government in that city. And in fact, undercity dont have any resources except for the mining region maybe? Idk where is this mining area. But for sure it is underground, right? If this zaun nation thing created, they need to import like 90% of their stuff 😅. Especially from piltover above. Food, wood, water, and even air! Yes air. They need to open up some air ventilation to piltover.
@@DBT1007 Dude, you do understand that there was an East and West Berlin, right? It was only unified due to the collapse of the USSR. Piltover and Zaun are separated by a river too. Piltover also treat the people of the under-city like shit because they didn't care about them, that's why Vander (and likely Silco) revolted against Piltover. It's hinted at when Silco has the "meeting" with the chem barons. He says; "Do you not remember where we came from? The mines they had us in? Air so thick it clogged your throat, stuck in your eyes.." Piltover used those people and they eventually had enough, and when they revolted, and Piltover put them down, brutally. (Bonus titbit: Heimerdinger was head of the council, so he knew. Did he order such brutal force to be used? Why not talk to those people?) Its already too late to unify both sides, Jayce says that himself; "I’m not fit to govern the people who live there, and neither are you. Our opportunity to demonstrate our compassion, our dedication, our solidarity, has passed." With Silco in charge and keeping people in line (with force) there was a chance of peace, even if it came about by Jayce giving Silco what he wanted and letting everything that has previously happened slide. The only conditions were to stop the production of Shimmer, Hand back the Gemstone and to give up Jinx. The latter proving impossible for Silco and him finally realising why Vander gave up. It’s probably also the reason why Vander tried to kill Silco, Vander wanted peace to protect Vi and Powder (and likely others), but Silco wanted to keep going, to keep fighting.
"Let go of her mind" You really didn't understand Silco's motivations xD Silco literally says in episode 8 "A thousand times I've imagined this moment. All we've ever wanted-- the boy didn't even haggle. And what do I lose but problems. Oh it all makes sense now brother. Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?" as he sits near Vander's statue. He finally understands why Vander chose to make peace with Piltover. Because he sees Jinx as a daughter. He genuinely cares for her. In his mind he's not manipulating her at all, he genuinely feels a connection with her.
Plus Jinx was already having mental health issues before Silco, so a huge part of her obviously loved Silco back without having to be manipulated into it
I think it also boggles my mind how people think Silco MADE Jinx crazy. Jinx is literally at her most mentally stable when she's with him. The only time she had a breakdown around him as right before he died. I think people see the good guy and bag guy and read into things too much through that lense. They act like Vi and Vander were perfect and never handed her, and Silco was evil and never did anything right. Everyone who cared for Jinx did good things for her and hut her. All of them. Vi was living in the past, Jinx didn't feel loved as herself she felt like Vi wanted a part of her that simply doesn't exist anymore. People tend to conflate it with her being mentally well, but she can be mentally well without being Powder. Jinx is not a symbol of her mental illness, Jinx is a symbol of her embracing who she always was, an intellectual sharpshooter and gadget whiz. For Vi to deny Jinx, although not meaning too, does not read as her wanting wanting her sister to be happy, but be the version of he that was meek, and didn't live up to her potential. As for Silco, he was a bad person and a crimelord so OBVIOUSLY not the ideal father. But he did demonstrate excellent parenting skills in many ways. The first time we see him talk to grown Jinx in Progress Day was excellently handled. He asked her for her side, he didn't insult her or make her feel bad for making a mistake, he told her that he believes in her and he knows she's capable while also not glossing over the seriousness of her error, and told her to take a mental health break. That was excellent. He also clearly isn't afraid to discipline her if he believes she crosses a line. He does talk her down. Both "sides" harmed AND hurt. He didn't have a grip on her mind, she listened to him because she WANTED to and she stopped listening and soon as she didn't want to anymore. Most of the time he manipulated her, he wasn't actually even lying to her. It's still bad don't get me wrong, but he's not this mastermind trying to control her like people paint her as, he could NEVER control Jinx if she didn't want to help. He is manipulative, but to keep her with him because he loves her so much. Again, still bad, but not the 10000% pure evil people act like he is.
@@HelloMellowXVI He was literally gonna give up his dream of the free nation of Zaun ONLY for her.. And Vi was the one making her worse because she wasn't able to accept Powder for who she is and trying to push someone she no longer is on her
@@HelloMellowXVI The writers said on twitter that Silco was a bad guy but he did really love her more than anything. And in his final moments he was telling the truth. He's a bad dude, but never really intentionally lied to her at any point. He did manipulate her, to get her to stay with him, but he either misunderstood things himself or made incorrect assumptions but he never lied. He was working to free the underground his WHOLE life, but look at his face Jayce asked for Jinx. Listen to what he said to Vander. Vander also worked to keep the undercity safe and was willing to risk it by going to jail to protect Vi. He was talking to Vander because Vander was the only one who understood everything they did for the Undercity, and how they'd both give it up for their daughters. He meant it. He was never going to give her to them. She just misunderstood because she always assumes the worst due to her insecurities and she sees herself as easy to abandon so she couldn't believe that he'd give everything up for her. But he would.
You heard wrong, Arcane has a lot to do with the game. The world of LoL/Runeterra has a lot of lore to it, every character has a story, not all fully fleshed out just yet but still plenty of interesting ones. This show has only just begun, it could run a good number of seasons if they choose to do so!
They meant it in the fact that league virtually has no story in game outside of crumbs of lore with interactions and references. League the game isn't exactly synonymous to Runeterra
One thing I love about Arcane is that there is never a clear villain. It’s not just one villain and the “heros” trying to stop them, everyone has their flaws.
It's a lot like the Last Of Us. Everyone is doing what they think is right for what they think is the right reasons. No villains, no heroes. Just people, trying to survive.
Ekko might be the one true "hero" in this morally grey world. Hell, based on the non-lethal weapons used by the Firelights, he might even have a no-killing rule. Combine that with his Edenic hideaway for the Firelights, he feels like your typical comic book hero. IDK how realistic that is in a story like this, but he (and maybe Caitlyn) feel like the purest characters.
Also, “villians” are justified. Silco is an awesome villian because in principle, most people agree with his cause. Zaun needs its independence. It’s his means that make him villainous, and the way he exerts his power and leadership through fear
Episode 3 man. When the show really says "Let me turn this shit up real quick" and never looked back. That ending scene of Episode 3 is still probably my favorite
Heres the thing i think you maybe misudnerstood is that while u did understand silco loves jinx you still think vi was the on powder shoudlve went to and that vi loved her more etc. However this is incorrect as yes vi loves powder but vi doesent love jinx. At the end of the day while its the same phyiscal person jinx is to far gone to ever be powder again thats what silcos your perfect meant. Jinxs big character arc is being torn between powder and jinx and who she really is. Vi wants her to just go back back to being who she was and just ebcome her sweet innocent little sister again but at this point jinx cant shes too broken emotionally and has done so many horrible things she can never go back to being powder. Thats why at the end she chose silco, because at the end of the day his final words even though he has every right to hate her at that moment. His first instinct wasnt hate or regret but love and trying to make sure she will be ok. He was willing to give up zaun the thing he worked his entire life for, for her. THats why jinx chose him and her new identity. Where as vi only loved the powder from before and the way she used to be. silco showed love for her no matter what or who she was no matter what she did he always would love her more than anything. Is silco a good guy, absoloutely not, did he do horrible things? fuck yeah, hell is he even the best dad- def not. But at the end of the day where as vi was stuck in the past of who jinx used to be, silco showed love for her no matter what she was, to him she was perfect. Vi maybe could love jinx the way she is now but the entire show shes only ever bringing up how powder used to be and their lives before shwoing no effort to understand the way she is now so even if she can love jinx now she doesent show it, thus making the choice for jinx to choose silco easier for her as she knows she would be loved no matter what in that chair.
It's not about misunderstanding, it's about simply disagreeing with you. Vi only met Jinx for a few hours, of course she doesn't know her yet, it takes time to get to know someone again, but even after she saw she was different, she wanted to stay by her side. Silco however, has been with her for so long and he never accepted her, telling her she needs to kill powder, he wanted to build her up to become his own vision of Zaun, he didn't actually accept her as she was, he didn't like Powder, only Jinx, when up until the last episode, she is both. Even with his baptism, Silco couldn't kill Powder. Both of them truly loved her and wanted the best for her in their own ways, both are so flawed, but trying to say Vi didn't love her as much as Silco? And that Silco was the better option? lmao please.
Right, that`s the beautiful thing about "Arcane": All the "heroes" are flawed as fuck(Vi lacks accountability for her mistakes until she`s already made them and then just keeps making them anyways and pities herself for the unwanted consequences that result but doesn`t really empathize with Powder/Jinx and yet somehow expects by some miracle her baby sister to be less selfish and more empathic than herself even though she does little to set that example and what she does do in that respect is all very superficial, idealizes the past failing to see how it traumatizes others despite being somewhat traumatized herself and punches first ,asks questions later, Caitlyn is not as prejudiced as most Pilties towards the Zaunites but her upper class privilege still colors how she views them and their customs , Mylo has zero patience for Powder a little girl making mistakes, Claggor despite being the most physically imposing of the younger Lanes hates physical confrontation and carrying his weight unless he absolutely has to which is why although he disagrees with Mylo`s cynicism about Powder he never challenges him on it unlike Vi who`s her big sister and yet even she doesn`t challenge it whilst Powder is in earshot at any point ,Vander doesn`t want to repeat the sins of his past but he`s so afraid of losing his adoptive family or them making the same mistakes he fails to properly educate them or prepare them for the dirty and violent politics of Piltover and Zaun, Heimerdinger`s age and paranoia about magic which makes him a hypocrite considering magic is the reason Yordles like him can live so much longer than humans to begin with makes him unempathetic of the struggles of the Zaunites until he befriends Viktor and Ekko and even then it`s in a very shallow way, Jayce and Marcus blindly buy into the Council`s anti-Zaunite prejudices yet exploit Silco and Viktor`s patient natures, both selling out their own people in essence yet naturally only the Zaunites get judged for it even though Silco doesn`t even follow through with the deal in the end because he cannot bring himself to give up Jinx) and the "villains" all have very human motivations of wanting to be seen as equals or as worthwhile as their neighbors above, wanting to be feared instead of in fear, not wanting to feel worthless, not wanting to die, be seen as weak, lose money or be left behind.
So for those of you that also don't know, fixing a leg in no way fixes the lungs that are coughing up blood and leaving this man in a hospital bed. Of course he needs to change more.
Mell, a conversation won't cut it to improve things, Jinx just went ful schizo with visual and auditory hallucinations + lots of murder, just like cait said, she is too far gone
@@HelloMellowXVI It's easy to say, Vi has no home and is basically wanted topside and undercity, she has 0 means to help Jinx and keep her by her side or even stop her from going to see silco. I mean there is just nothing she can do about it she can barely take care of herself. Thinking otherwise at this point is just self-righteous bullsh*t
The thing is, jinx likes to be jinx. She doesnt want to be powder again, where everything she did or built in the past was a failure. She wants Vi to love her as jinx, like she loved powder. "I thought maybe u can love me like u used to, even tho im different.". Its difficult to help someone who believes nothing is wrong with them. Where they like the way they are.
Vi is one of the strongest characters in the Arcane, Not only physically strong, but also psychologically strong. She endured all this pain from the death of her family, the loss of her sister, and her imprisonment and torture for years. All this and she is still steadfast as Vander said to her, "You have a good heart, do not lose it, no matter how hard the world tries to break you." Yes, Vi did not let circumstances define her character, like the rest of the characters. And another thing I will argue day and night against those who say she abandoned Powder. They are obviously blind and need glasses more than I do.
One thing I like about Vi is that the creators made her a badass but not invincible. She takes almost as much damage as she dishes out and blocks with her face.
@@ericjohnson6120I also like how much emotion she expresses. When writing a masculine woman, writers often make them emotionless and somewhat inhuman. But Vi is one of the most expressive characters in the show. She wears her heart on her sleeve a lot of the time and doesn’t hesitate to express love for those around her
Vi is very strong, but I would argue she's far from the psychologically strongest. Vi is honestly helped by the fact that she is a very simple person. Not as in stupid, but straight-forward: if there is a problem, hit it. And we see in the show there are times where that's the correct way to do things, and times where it doesn't work. And when it doesn't work she really doesn't know what to do. Personally I think Ekko is the strongest character and best leader in the show. He experienced tragedy just like Vi and Powder, but at the end of episode 3 he's completely on his own. Somehow, alone, he managed to create a community of people, especially those who were worst affected by Silco's reign. Despite everything, he's still a good person. An incredibly and justifiably angry and mistrusting person, but a good one.
This is honestly one of best animated series and series in general ever. 👍 The animation, the voice acting, the story, the characters, direction, music - everything is so well done. 💙💗 10/10 imo and one of my favourite shows. Thanks be to Riot Games and Fortiche. And Thank You for the reaction! ♥
Man i think you missed a lot of how bad things are in Zaun like the people there have better choices than Silco. Those kids in the factory don't have parents, jobs, orphanages or a social security check lol. There are no doctors giving out medical care for anything less than your entire savings, only mad scientists hiding away from Enforcers. Vander kept Zaun in stasis out of his own guilt, it may mean peace for now but kids are still being born stillborn from the toxic fumes, enforcers roam the streets beating people for fun, people getting cheated and not being able to move up in the world or have their talents shine. Silco on the other hand introduced survival of the fittest. Now there are entrepreneurs and industry leaders, Enforcers don't dare tread the streets and for the first time Zaunites are making demands from Piltovers. Heck the only reason Silco was able to even bargain for Zaun was because of Jinx's Terrorism...
Aw, Mell, you're just hatin' on Viktor because he has a sorta Russian accent. Don't blame him for that. It's just that, like Trevor Noah pointed out in his special, everything sounds evil in Russian.accent. "Hello, good morning to you" sounds like the start of an international crime.
As a Russian I bursted out laughing when he said that, but yeah people more than ever now have a pre made thoughts (justified I guess…) when they hear me speak English so thanks for defending us
While I enjoyed your reaction, but I disliked that you simply discarded Silco as a character, I know he's evil, he's manipulative, but he cared for Jinx.
i think sevika is simply loyal to zaun. she wants zaun to be independent and successful, so she called out vander’s avoidant stance and sided with silco. silco did establish power and made loads of money so she remained at his side, especially when he was about to get zaun to independence. finn had no chance. i think in s2 she’ll try to take over silco’s throne and save zaun!
For me Silico cared for powder the moment she jumped into his arms because he understood her situation. Wish that never happened but it did and that messed up father daughter relationship grew and it created JINX. The story could have been so damn happier but this one was the chosen inevitable path. Sucks but a great watch.
Imo mel is most misunderstood because she is so commonly placed within the evil manipulative box even though technically heimendinger and Silko are the most manipulative members and the ones who actually let everything go to shit. So much easier to say she's pretty and she's smart so she's plotting something when whole time her objectives literally matched Jace what about elevation and protection while there may have been a time skip the two characters have been giving each other do me eyes when they appear on screen together and she's been there day one just like Victor just as a benefactor instead of a fellow scientist
"I thought, maybe you could love me like you used to, but you've changed to" ~ Jinx. As father as daughter. Vi represents Vander, and Jinx represents Silco, two brothers, and two sisters. Vander and Silco fought together to create the undercity and be independent, after failing, Vander retired but Silco wanted to stay. Even though Vander betrayed Silco, he kept the respect for him, until he made an Enforcer friend (Grayson) to keep peace. Jinx and Vi's story is kinda similar. After Vi left Powder in episode 3 (Marcus stopped her from comming back), Powder was left alone with Silco, his ideals now became hers. So, when she saw Vi made an enforcer friend (Caitlyn) she felt betrayed. Those last words she said to Vi meant that, it's impossible to go back from Jinx to Powder. She will never heal, she's been damaged for a long time, but Vi only sees her as Powder, she doesn't like the new Persona of Jinx. What Silco said is right, she's gonna turn her back on Jinx when she realizes she's not that little girl anymore.
The guy you were saying wanted to change his whole body, he has a terminal disease. Whatever he did with his leg didn’t fix that, so he was still trying to save his life.
What Jinx needs is someone who is happy with her being a mix of Powder and Jinx. That person is not Vi. Vi sees her as Powder, the little sister that she needs to protect.
It has to do with the game, is just that it is an adaptation. And like with many adaptations they change some stuff, the same way MCU movies are not completely 100% the same as the comics.
@@HelloMellowXVI yeah, Viktor, Jayce, Ekko, Singed, Heimer, Jinx, Vi, Caitlyn and another one that I can't say to avoid possible season 2 spoilers, in fact, if you go to the Runeterra Interactive Map you'll see Piltover and Zaun compared to the rest of the world
I dont think it counts as manipulation when he actually believe what he is telling her. Which I absolutely think he does. Silco is a seriously damaged person too. His very narrow world view is the lessons life as an oppressed victim of perpetual war has tought him. He is wrong, on most accounts, but he actually believe its true... Thats not manipulation, nor lying. There is no malicious intent to misslead. He genuinly love Jinx.
I've seen a lot of people get confused by the moon at the end... but like... the moon is millions of miles away, like man it would take a year for that rocket to fly to the moon lol, even with the hextech engine
Silco loved Jinx. He wasn't trying to manipulate her, the things he was saying was just based off his personal experiences. Everybody he knew did betray him and stabbed him in the back that's all he knows.
the best way to look at the show is it’s more of a tragedy and a warning of what could happen It’s a commentary on inaction lack of cooperation, and forced division and what would happen if you let these problems fester
"Just take them both, the head will be replaced." That's the problem, though: you don't know who will replace the head. It might be someone who isn't willing to negotiate and who might be even worse than Silco. This is actually the smartest thing Jace does the whole season.
Exactly! Not to mention the dramatic turn of events necessary to even make Silco come to surface.Topside never knew about him in the first place, and now that they did, they might never would be able to control him, but at least they could adapt to him and his now come true independent nation of Zhaun. If it weren't for Jinx and all that... Now just imagine a certain mob boss, for example, rising from the once again pitch-black shadows of the trenches and claiming his place as the snake's head, who is built like a retail shelf, armed like a 60t tank, and - eventually - walks like a giant bionic man-spider with SHOTGUN KNEES! I'd be terrified for both Piltover and Zhaun!
Not your best reaction but enjoyed it anyway! Really liked the way you empathized with Powder/Jinx where other reactors were just hating, shame you didn't perhaps understand Silco's journey. ( In the end he became like Vander, prioritized his "kid" over the cause however twisted he was ). Fire show! Season 2 confirmed but we'll have to wait years again 😢
A lot of the characters from this show are characters straight from League of Legends, and they do have a lot of written lore about the characters, but they don't strictly adhere to every single tiny thing (they've changed lore over the years). Heimerdinger, Jayce, Viktor, Vi, Jinx, Ekko, and Singed (the doctor) are all characters from the game. And I think (don't hold me to this) they may make Vander a character from the game that is an experiment of Singed. Also, the Jinx song (Get Jinxed) was a song from when the character was released in the game.
The whole point of Jinx and her name is that she jinxes everything she does, she killed both her fathers, if she didn’t show up vander would’ve been saved. She shoots at the council starting a war while they were agreeing on peace so if she hadn’t shot, Silco would’ve won his nation of zaun (independent undercity). Everything about her character is that all the terrible things that happen in this show could’ve been avoided if she followed one simple instruction from vi. She jinxes everything she does. Also silco was feeling the same way as vander when talking to the statue since he was so close to freeing the undercity but now understands vanders perspective on loving jinx like his daughter how vander loved vi and in the end he couldn’t give her up either. Other than that he was in power the entire time and was an outstanding villain that has a real arc idk why u don’t like him
Favorite character in League of Legends, who I mained for years before quitting League, is Jayce. It was so nice to see him in this show and in such extent.
From someone who has watched this show about 17 + times I’m still seeing things that strike me as impressive story telling. In the opening scene of episode one you see an enforcer shooting someone point blank and then the scene starts to get scrambled and scratchy… That’s because this is powder’s perspective and that was her mother getting shot execution style in front of her. This causes her mind to start to break and hallucinate as she looks at the dead people around her. And another detail just from episode one is the cleaver reveal of what valuable currency looks like. When the kids are just about to get shook down for their haul, Deckard is rolling a somewhat silver coin in his hand. This becomes important in a coming up scene where Huck is getting scammed by two thugs and they show a bronze looking coin (Ofc bronze being a value that all league players are quite familiar with 😂). But the ability to show more information about the world and setting without directly explaining it with dialog, is something that I see this show do with absolute mastery. I wish other writers could replicate such remarkable storytelling.
"People be leavin' food out..." It is based in a videogame, Mell. How else are you going to get your health back otherwise? Also, at least the food isn't in trash cans as in Metro City. Those boys in the are eating turkey and burgers out of barrels and trash cans. Mike Haggar was a champion pro-wrestler AND city mayor and he still had to punch trash cans for his food.
To answer your question, Marcus is undoubtedly the most annoying character in this show….and you should check out the music video for Imagine Dragons “Enemy”
You should watch the league of legend animation they are so good and you can see why the animation styles are the way that they are. League already has backstories for pretty much everyone so thats why it seemed like the stories were everywhere, even the areas involved.
I watched almost all Arcane reactions, a dozen of deep dives, and watched the show about 10+ times. I never saw or speak to anyone that understood this little of this masterpiece of a show..
the best way I can describe Arcane is beautifully chaotic. Normally having all these different subplots wouldn't work but the writing is so tight and good it all comes together
In reaction to Melo asking if there’s a League of Legends battle royal. There’s actually a League of Legends fighting game in the works. Not sure when it’ll be released though
"didn't care about caitlyn" "didn't care silco loved jinx" just cared about the cool fight scenes and different hair colored people i guess. i don't even know what you even understood while watching this show? just because you didn't "care" doesn't mean it's not well written and canon. putting characters in a trope box is exactly what the writers avoided & that's exactly what you did. 😐
Lmao really butt hurt I see 🤣 you acting like I said the show was terrible. I liked the show just didn't care about the characters but you're in your feelings about it.
The reason why Silco pointed the gun at Vi in that moment was because Vi was forcing Jinx to remember so she can be 'Powder' again. In Vi's defense, she didn't know that for Jinx; remembering Vander, Mylo and Claggor causes her PTSD to trigger because she had blamed herself with their death and the auditory hallucinations were definitely not helping. Silco IS the main villain and the antagonist of this season don't get me wrong, not saying he's just misunderstood, man did kill people and did shady things after all. But just like Vander, he was willing to give up what he believes in to save his daughter. The pinnacle scene was with Silco and Vander's statue and his quote 'Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?' It parallels Vander's decision with leaving the rebellion to take care of the sisters. And for others saying it: No, he's not like Thanos in that regard because he tortured Nebula and killed Gamora to get what he wants.
Can't believe you did it all in one go! You're a hard, mean, watching machine!😮 @the voice acting is top notch! The Americans have the adapt too, cuz the Japanese break the fking records!👊
Because as the villian he ain't do shit expect for the first act. Everything else was powder. But it is what is. Appreciate the view and engagement anyway
In episode 3 I could actually see them all getting away if powder didn’t show up cause they had the wall and Vander was free they were about to leave then it blew up
Think about that longer than the five seconds you took to write it and it'll sound ridiculous. Silco already set the trap, spreading the rumor that Vander "fled town with his kids and was never heard from again". He had a juiced-up Deckard right on their tails. We're even blatantly shown that he was about to cave in the door (both my the massive dents at the top and bottom, as well as ripping it off after the blast), meaning he'd have been on top of them in just a minute longer. Claggor breaking the wall would have done... what exactly? They weren't on the ground floor and had no way to shimmy down--we saw Vander leap out a multi-story window with Vi to prove that. Even if they HAD miraculously escaped Deckard and all the guards everywhere, who was going to stop Deckard from catching them moments later? They can't fight him. They can't outrun him. If Vander was busy trying to "escape" with the kids, who would have held off Deckard? Who would have taken the shimmer to stop him? You have to form credible thoughts based on the context presented, not make-believe scenarios you cooked up out of nowhere. Escaping was never an option. They were all going to die. Powder's intervention ended up saving her and Vi's lives, but also tragically shifted the "blame" onto herself. There was no possible scenario in which that escape worked.
@@LockeNarshe Vander almost 1 v 1 him while beeing hurt by the explosion. With him freed their chance of surviving woulld be high. Also at this point Silco doesn t have much influence he has just his crew and Sevika's crew which were mostly defeated by vi while Vander was still the ruler of the undercity.
Damn, I get that not everyone is open-minded... but Mell over here not even trying to see the layered nuances at play. It's like watching someone eat a meticulously handcrafted pizza with fresh, homegrown ingredients and your grandma's secret sauce only to go--yeah, I mean, it's just like any other pizza; what about it?
so if you had a daughter and she shot you bc she had a misunderstanding that made her hate you, you would stay silent while you died and not clear up the misunderstanding bc you have to "let go of her mind?" what a bizzare thought process.
@@HelloMellowXVI You didnt "understand" him, you placed him in a trope box and are trying to justify that he is evil. He is doing the best he can to save the undercity and be a hero. Its like where you make comments about sivika being a bum and vi been wooping ass, dude sivika is running the streets and fighting power and vi has been in jail her whole life getting wooped by guards... not a big deal at face value but shows you cant look past the surface level.
@ygkemosabi8280 tried to save the undercity yet he didn't. Didn't make not one damn move. And he used everyone. So try again, and you really assume shit about me over a damn fight? Lmao just a wanna be high and mighty know it all, chill with that. You know nothing about me and you obviously not smart enough to know what trash talk, sarcasm, and jokes are....
@@HelloMellowXVI >not one move We literally see the Council not only acknowledge the undercity but also be ready to give them independence. This all happened under Silco's rule. When Vander was around, the Council didn't even know the undercity was a thing.
(maybe spoilers) i feel kind of bad that you are this late to the show but its good and bad, ive seen the show 6 times now and i'm so keen for season 2 but your over a year late to the show so you don't have to wait as long as the day 1 warchers haha (played league 2011-2016) i got some of my non animation watching friends into arcane told them they only need to start episodde 3 3 and they will be hooked i was right every time in a week i would have messages like i finished it that was insane, but no one truly appreciated the ending. i cried the first time i watched just heard you wonder if their are small things players would understand there absolutely are but the main reason i got others to watch is because if they don't play the game they don't know who the characters from the game are or what to predict but the players get the most immersive experience seeing all of the details that just click (10/10 show for everyone)
So there no current plan to make a league of legends battle Royal game but they are working on a MMORPG game set in the league of legends universe. Also sense people do pay to buy skins in league of legends they did make skins for the characters in this show that are champions in the game
i appreciate this shows- no RIOT'S (Producers of Arcane, League of Legends and Valorant) attention to detail with how they design characters specifically how they design and portray POC in their works.. although this isn't anywhere near a race discussion i appreciate them for going out of their way to put in effort into thing's like POC'S hair designs.. its beautiful.
The song Jinx is listening to in her hideout is actually her theme song from her debut trailer. Jinx has been my favorite character since she debuted in 2013
It's called Get Jinxed, it's a pretty fun song!
mine too
@@Fez135 For real as long as she gets therapy I feel like Jinx would really be a really fun friend to hang out with.
Silco is one fire of an antagonist!
Note that to the end, he fell for the same thing Vander did.
Caring, really caring for someone else. Silco became "weak" like Vander in the end.
Especially the scene when he talks to vanders statue and acknowledges/understands how vander must’ve felt not wanting to throw jinx under the bus cause he really does love her but at the same time his whole thing has been stopping at nothing to get his nation of zaun
@@benrosenberg9467 Until he found the one thing he was not willing to sacrifice for Zaun.
In my opinion, the crux of arcane can be described as: The bonds of love cannot be unbroken no matter how hard you try. Real unconditional love will be both your greatest downfall and your saving grace, and you’ll be powerless to stop it.
You see this theme in every single relationship in Arcane, some more obvious than others. Love is what makes and breaks almost every character. Love is what forges all of us, and love also hurts and scars us deeply.
Warlord Ambessa’s realises that her love for her daughter makes her weak, and sends Mel away. Despite whatever walls and distance she keeps between them though, they love each other in a way that is unbreakable and ever lasting.
Vi admits to Jinx (or perhaps Powder?) that there is nothing that she can say or do that can stop her from loving her, and break the care Vi has for her.
Even in that scene where Cait and Vi break up for the first time on the bridge (having two break ups before you’re even together in the span of 2 days is the most certified lesbian moment but anyway) that bond similarly can’t be broken, and you even for a moment see Cait putting herself in the line of fire to protect Vi (Vi is such a damsel in distress but you don’t even notice it lol). That could have killed her. Her growing affection for Vi could have killed her and it didn’t.
And finally, Silco and Jinx’s relationship concludes with silco literally dying for the love he has for his daughter. He sacrifices his life goal for her. Even after she shoots him accidentally (“jinxing” her fathers life, leading to her accepting her identity as a jinx) he cannot stop loving her. There is nothing she could do (murdering innocent people, hurting others seemingly for the fuck of it, even killing him, indirectly “jinxing” the cause he’s fought his entire life for) that bond can’t be broken.
Idk sorry I got really into it
I feel like a lot of people misunderstand Silco cause yeah there is a level of manipulation but at the end of it all he did love Jinx. To make it easier think of Silco and Jinx like Thanos and Gamora
That's How I Saw It, But People Won't Understand That Because I Didn't Spell It Out For Them And Because I Was Never On Silcos Side. I Didn't Care That He Actually Loved Her. I Cared About Powder, Her Actual Sister, And Her Mental Health. Silco Is Evil, I Will Never Side With Him, No Matter How Good The Voice Acting Was And How Complex The Character Is. Throughout The Whole Show I Only Cared About Powder, Could've Cared Less For Anyone Else. Silco Was Manipulative... So Manipulative Infact, I Guess You Can Say He Even Manipulated Some Of The Fans Lmao.
Silco's whole deal was the end justifies the means, which is why he fought Vander. Vanders peace was stalling and not moving the goal forward. In his mind, anything can be sacrificed for a free Zaun... until it was his daughters turn to be sacrificed. He finally found something he cared for more than his revolution. He did care for her, but was also a evil, deceitful, manipulative terrorist. I found him interesting because he actually changed. I feel that's rather rare for a villain.
Jinx by the end of the show is just broken. Its sad. I don't think she could come back and even if she could; she has at minimum, killed a dozen enforcers, caused massive property damage, and attacked the council. The last of which we don't yet know the results of. I sympathized with jinx, wished she could be saved, but she needs to be locked up. She is too far gone.
I'm pretty sure abusers love their partners in their own way too
I see it less like Thanos and Gamora, and more like a dark Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson. Silco saw a familiar pain, the betrayal of a sibling-figure, abandonment, not being valued for your commitment to do what’s necessary for freedom… a kindred spirit. He loved her the way he wanted to be loved. He trained her to have the strength and fearlessness that he needed to develop in himself. He taught her to never trust anybody but him, because he was the only one that he himself trusted. He never sought to manipulate her with the goal of manipulation. He manipulated her with the goal of protecting her from the pain he’s felt, and from the world as he’s experienced it.
Yes, he’s the bad guy. Yes he does evil things, but a major point of this show is to point out that darkness exists on both sides as a response to evil acts of the other. Silco was made out of the necessity to survive the oppression of the Upper City, as was Vander. Vander wasn’t willing to go to the lengths Silco was, but both became who they became out of the need to protect a daughter they saw as a reflection of themselves.
You’re free to hate him. I hate him too. He’s a very hate-able character. But don’t outright refuse to understand a character or see the depth and reasoning they poses, just because you don’t like them. That’s the literal definition of willful ignorance, and you’re depriving yourself of experiencing a massive portion of the story that the series has to tell.
Bro respect silco is dad
I can’t praise it enough, Arcane deserves all the love it gets and all the awards it won. It earned it! I can’t wait till season 2!
My favorite character, bar none, is Ekko. Schnee did a really outstanding breakdown of the character, and it really catapulted him into being my favorite character of the entire series. Piltover is corrupt, Zaun is corrupt, but Ekko is 100% about caring for those in need, and providing a safe place for the vulnerable. He isn't about politics... the only politics that he cares about are whether or not you are trying to help his people or hurt his people. Heck, the only reason they were going after Silco's shipment of shimmer at the beginning was because he was actively seeking them out to destroy them. So... anything that diminishes Silco's power is something that diminishes his ability to harm them. It is a messed-up kind of setting when that is a valid criteria for the "purest" faction in the series.
Yeah! I REALLY love the way they developed his character. I already loved his league counterpart, but arcane took the essence of the character and fine tuned every aspect perfectly to the new setting (I especially love the way they updated his hairstyle, keeping the white Mohawk shape while taking away the extra silliness of the original design and adding a hair texture that suits him was such a great little tweak. He still absolutely looks like himself, but more grown up and easy to take seriously.) And he is really the new heart of zaun, after the loss of vander. I can't wait to see him get his rewind device too, the bridge fight was such a perfect way to showcase that he already has the mindset of learning from his mistakes and anticipating other's next move
@ijornhribrudkrvir yeah, the League "shard of glass" mowhawk... doesn't look great...
@@Drake844221 the league designs are effective for what they are, they wanted to learn harder into a punk vibe and the tall Mohawk gave him a clear silhouette that can be recognized even when the character is very small on a screen- I totally understand why they chose it. But the arcane design fits much better into the more serious setting where the silhouette aspect isn't as much of an issue. I love the way arcane took the base looks of the characters and then developed them into believable, real people
@@ijornhribrudkrvir No, you are right that quick recognizability on a screen from a distance is an important factor for League. It just doesn't help that it _does_ leave him looking a little silly when seen more up close XD Still, between Arcane and Seconds... the absolute pathos of the guy is glorious.
Ah, the absence of politics in running a commune
It’s interesting that earlier Ekko says that Powder is far gone but in that scene where he looks into Jinx’s eyes thinking that powder is still in there that there’s hope for the girl he loves. Yeaaaaa so In League there was voice monologues of both Jink and Ekko hinting that Ekko had a crush on Jinx before she went insane. Like the line “I had a crush… till you started talking to the gun” insinuating he’s seen her talking to her inner demons
Also, in "Legends of Runeterra" Ekko was the first person to call her by her birthname Powder and it`s implied at some point Ekko reminded Vi who was previously amnesiac that Jinx was originally her baby sister Powder.
Also, although Jinx often claims "Jinx stands for Jinx", there are hints that her past innocent self is still buried deep in her fucked-up, schizophrenic, scattered mind such as naming her minigun "Pow-Pow"(After Vi`s childhood nickname for her), "Fishbones", her one-eyed shark rocket launcher serving as her conscience and father figure(Hmm, what relationship in "Arcane" might have influenced that, I wonder?)and her tendency to end sentences with "der" as an alternative to "duh". Not to mention "I have the best intentions."
The true beauty of Silco is that he does heavily divide opinions and everyone is kinda valid in their views imo.
He's a complex character but objectively speaking, he's killed Vander, Milo and Claggor- seperated Vi and Powder, flooded the Undercity with Shimmer and enforced his rules by sheer force. Not to mention how he transferred his rage against Vander to Jinx - who is messed up by her trauma, to say the least. She suffers from her villainy because it will always lead her back to the turning point of the show - Jinx is a character with deep guilt, trauma and insecurity - and what did Silco do? He taught her how to weaponize all of that and she grew up to kill scores of people just to prove a point or show her loyalty to Silco. She never had any strong opinions about Piltover and The Undercity before or after she became Jinx - all she's ever cared about is acceptance.
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Vi: Powder, it's okay.
Jinx: It's Jinx now. Powder fell down a well!
Mell: Well, then let her help you get out!
Me: Lmao! That's a good response, man! 🤣
Jinx's last speech is probably one of my favorite moments in the show. It really captures how exhausted she truly is
Fun fact: The scenes of Jinx and Silco is supposed to make us uncomfortable, however its nothing but a daughter-father relationship between em
It's also to show that Jinx does not act like her age. She's mentally still the little gitl she was. So basically kids don't understand how to act appropriate and are more cuddly and carefree.
Just to point out, Jinx only wanted Vi to love Jinx, not Powder.
As she kept calling her Powder, Jinx decided to have her life as a criminal so she says to Vi “I thought you could love me like you used to, even tho I am different” and shoots the rocket towards the Council.
Maybe if Vi called her Jinx, none of that would have happened.
This series is definitely one to rewatch to catch everything. The music video for Enemy was great as a backstory, too. Love your reactions! Aloha from Hawaii! 🌺
Imma also say this, Jinx once again killed someone she loved on accident. Her brain heard the click of the gun and went immediately into fight mode so she grabbed her gun and shot at whoever caused the gun to click which happened to have been Silco. Milo was right, Jinx is a jinx and she realized it after killing Silco. Her kneeling in front of Silco like a small child and the light completely gone from her eyes just broke my heart. And then her accepting she’s a jinx, god this show pulls my heart strings.
Also, she’s not wrong about Vi not loving her like she use to or how they’ve both changed. Before the events of ep 3 Violet would’ve seriously injured or killed Caitlyn, hell she wanted to go to war to fight the enforcers. Now she has feelings for Caitlyn, big enough feelings to pick her over “getting Powder back”. Also, Vi refused to call Jinx by her name except for one time to the council. That’s a sign of Vi not accepting Jinx because she’s not Powder. Jinx wanted to be accepted as who she was even if she’s crazy, she just wanted affection and a sense of comfort.
A lot of people tend to forget that Caitlyn is an enforcer and Vi would have never have been caught dead doing anything with an enforcer beforehand. Way too many people say that Vi didn't change, but that is a very fundamental change of her character.
I think after episode 3, Vi realised that her deadliest enemy was Silco - not Topsiders. She didn't even know much about him initially and in one night, he led to the death of three family members and changed her life. She was forced to partner up with Caitlyn because she wanted to find Powder and defeat Silco but after meeting Powder - she understood that her sister is part of the problem. During that time, of course she got to know Caitlyn and predictably, started caring about her as well. For Vi, there is no point in liberating the undercity if it means Silco's the one in control. He's already made the place much worse with Shimmer and the only pocket of resistance left is Ekko and the Firelights. She hasn't actually changed, because she was always capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong, even if the right thing means cooperating with people you've always hated. (Not dissimilar to the way Vander kept the Lanes free of enforcers, thanks to his agreement with Marcus' predecessor).I think both Vi and Jinx mirror Vander and Silco as characters. People love Silco and Jinx as characters (which is completely understandable) but that doesn't change the fact hat these two are objectively bad for the undercity. You don't fix a bad situation by making it worse. Silco and Jinx value loyalty, victory at any cost whereas Vander and Vi end up changing sides or cooperating with the other side in order to do the right thing.
Silco is my favorite character in Arcane. He was betrayed and almost killed by a man he regarded as his own brother, when all he really wanted to do, was to make an independent civilization, where they could live in peace. He truly did love Jinx, since he saw himself in her. (betrayed by a sibling). That is why my favorite line in Arcane is "We'll show them." Their relationship might've been toxic as hell, but it was real.
This dude is so messed up 😅
Same like silco lol.
Vander there, obviously choose peace over civil war.
Imagine there are two nations or city states that actually roughly on the same land. It's just top and bottom.
It gonna be chaos.
Better they need to improve the relation between the two
ESPECIALLY, I talk about heimerdinger here. He is the founder. What stuff that forbid him to not unites the two places? 😅
What undercity need is simply just some security stuff. Wealth security, crime security, health stuff, etc. Some quality of life stuff. It's not about a new government in that city.
And in fact, undercity dont have any resources except for the mining region maybe? Idk where is this mining area. But for sure it is underground, right?
If this zaun nation thing created, they need to import like 90% of their stuff 😅. Especially from piltover above.
Food, wood, water, and even air! Yes air. They need to open up some air ventilation to piltover.
@@DBT1007 Dude, you do understand that there was an East and West Berlin, right? It was only unified due to the collapse of the USSR.
Piltover and Zaun are separated by a river too. Piltover also treat the people of the under-city like shit because they didn't care about them, that's why Vander (and likely Silco) revolted against Piltover.
It's hinted at when Silco has the "meeting" with the chem barons. He says;
"Do you not remember where we came from? The mines they had us in? Air so thick it clogged your throat, stuck in your eyes.."
Piltover used those people and they eventually had enough, and when they revolted, and Piltover put them down, brutally. (Bonus titbit: Heimerdinger was head of the council, so he knew. Did he order such brutal force to be used? Why not talk to those people?)
Its already too late to unify both sides, Jayce says that himself;
"I’m not fit to govern the people who live there, and neither are you. Our opportunity to demonstrate our compassion, our dedication, our solidarity, has passed."
With Silco in charge and keeping people in line (with force) there was a chance of peace, even if it came about by Jayce giving Silco what he wanted and letting everything that has previously happened slide. The only conditions were to stop the production of Shimmer, Hand back the Gemstone and to give up Jinx. The latter proving impossible for Silco and him finally realising why Vander gave up.
It’s probably also the reason why Vander tried to kill Silco, Vander wanted peace to protect Vi and Powder (and likely others), but Silco wanted to keep going, to keep fighting.
My other favorite line is “is there anything so undoing as a daughter?”. I think about that line every day. Genius writing.
"Let go of her mind"
You really didn't understand Silco's motivations xD
Silco literally says in episode 8 "A thousand times I've imagined this moment. All we've ever wanted-- the boy didn't even haggle. And what do I lose but problems. Oh it all makes sense now brother. Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?" as he sits near Vander's statue. He finally understands why Vander chose to make peace with Piltover. Because he sees Jinx as a daughter. He genuinely cares for her. In his mind he's not manipulating her at all, he genuinely feels a connection with her.
Plus Jinx was already having mental health issues before Silco, so a huge part of her obviously loved Silco back without having to be manipulated into it
He took advantage of that... you can clearly see that in the first interaction, how are yall this gullible?! Silco was a manipulator
I think it also boggles my mind how people think Silco MADE Jinx crazy. Jinx is literally at her most mentally stable when she's with him. The only time she had a breakdown around him as right before he died.
I think people see the good guy and bag guy and read into things too much through that lense. They act like Vi and Vander were perfect and never handed her, and Silco was evil and never did anything right. Everyone who cared for Jinx did good things for her and hut her. All of them.
Vi was living in the past, Jinx didn't feel loved as herself she felt like Vi wanted a part of her that simply doesn't exist anymore. People tend to conflate it with her being mentally well, but she can be mentally well without being Powder. Jinx is not a symbol of her mental illness, Jinx is a symbol of her embracing who she always was, an intellectual sharpshooter and gadget whiz. For Vi to deny Jinx, although not meaning too, does not read as her wanting wanting her sister to be happy, but be the version of he that was meek, and didn't live up to her potential.
As for Silco, he was a bad person and a crimelord so OBVIOUSLY not the ideal father. But he did demonstrate excellent parenting skills in many ways. The first time we see him talk to grown Jinx in Progress Day was excellently handled. He asked her for her side, he didn't insult her or make her feel bad for making a mistake, he told her that he believes in her and he knows she's capable while also not glossing over the seriousness of her error, and told her to take a mental health break. That was excellent. He also clearly isn't afraid to discipline her if he believes she crosses a line. He does talk her down.
Both "sides" harmed AND hurt. He didn't have a grip on her mind, she listened to him because she WANTED to and she stopped listening and soon as she didn't want to anymore. Most of the time he manipulated her, he wasn't actually even lying to her. It's still bad don't get me wrong, but he's not this mastermind trying to control her like people paint her as, he could NEVER control Jinx if she didn't want to help. He is manipulative, but to keep her with him because he loves her so much. Again, still bad, but not the 10000% pure evil people act like he is.
@@HelloMellowXVI He was literally gonna give up his dream of the free nation of Zaun ONLY for her.. And Vi was the one making her worse because she wasn't able to accept Powder for who she is and trying to push someone she no longer is on her
@@HelloMellowXVI The writers said on twitter that Silco was a bad guy but he did really love her more than anything. And in his final moments he was telling the truth.
He's a bad dude, but never really intentionally lied to her at any point. He did manipulate her, to get her to stay with him, but he either misunderstood things himself or made incorrect assumptions but he never lied. He was working to free the underground his WHOLE life, but look at his face Jayce asked for Jinx. Listen to what he said to Vander. Vander also worked to keep the undercity safe and was willing to risk it by going to jail to protect Vi. He was talking to Vander because Vander was the only one who understood everything they did for the Undercity, and how they'd both give it up for their daughters.
He meant it. He was never going to give her to them. She just misunderstood because she always assumes the worst due to her insecurities and she sees herself as easy to abandon so she couldn't believe that he'd give everything up for her. But he would.
You heard wrong, Arcane has a lot to do with the game. The world of LoL/Runeterra has a lot of lore to it, every character has a story, not all fully fleshed out just yet but still plenty of interesting ones. This show has only just begun, it could run a good number of seasons if they choose to do so!
They meant it in the fact that league virtually has no story in game outside of crumbs of lore with interactions and references.
League the game isn't exactly synonymous to Runeterra
@@mango-float I guess, but it's a bit like Dark Souls in that there is plenty of deep lore, you just have to go look for it.
One thing I love about Arcane is that there is never a clear villain. It’s not just one villain and the “heros” trying to stop them, everyone has their flaws.
It's a lot like the Last Of Us. Everyone is doing what they think is right for what they think is the right reasons. No villains, no heroes. Just people, trying to survive.
Ekko might be the one true "hero" in this morally grey world. Hell, based on the non-lethal weapons used by the Firelights, he might even have a no-killing rule. Combine that with his Edenic hideaway for the Firelights, he feels like your typical comic book hero. IDK how realistic that is in a story like this, but he (and maybe Caitlyn) feel like the purest characters.
Also, “villians” are justified. Silco is an awesome villian because in principle, most people agree with his cause. Zaun needs its independence. It’s his means that make him villainous, and the way he exerts his power and leadership through fear
@@The_IsaiahnatorVi to a certain extent too. But even she straight up excuses her sister for being a murderer and an arsonist because she loves her
heavy disagree. silco is definitely a clear villain, and ekko, Cait, and vi to an extent could and would be considered heroes.
Episode 3 man. When the show really says "Let me turn this shit up real quick" and never looked back. That ending scene of Episode 3 is still probably my favorite
One of the greatest shows to be released in the last decade, this show is a work of art.
You should watch the behind the scenes “bridging the rift” of how they made the show . It’s a masterpiece as well and super inspirational
Heres the thing i think you maybe misudnerstood is that while u did understand silco loves jinx you still think vi was the on powder shoudlve went to and that vi loved her more etc. However this is incorrect as yes vi loves powder but vi doesent love jinx. At the end of the day while its the same phyiscal person jinx is to far gone to ever be powder again thats what silcos your perfect meant. Jinxs big character arc is being torn between powder and jinx and who she really is. Vi wants her to just go back back to being who she was and just ebcome her sweet innocent little sister again but at this point jinx cant shes too broken emotionally and has done so many horrible things she can never go back to being powder. Thats why at the end she chose silco, because at the end of the day his final words even though he has every right to hate her at that moment. His first instinct wasnt hate or regret but love and trying to make sure she will be ok. He was willing to give up zaun the thing he worked his entire life for, for her. THats why jinx chose him and her new identity. Where as vi only loved the powder from before and the way she used to be. silco showed love for her no matter what or who she was no matter what she did he always would love her more than anything. Is silco a good guy, absoloutely not, did he do horrible things? fuck yeah, hell is he even the best dad- def not. But at the end of the day where as vi was stuck in the past of who jinx used to be, silco showed love for her no matter what she was, to him she was perfect. Vi maybe could love jinx the way she is now but the entire show shes only ever bringing up how powder used to be and their lives before shwoing no effort to understand the way she is now so even if she can love jinx now she doesent show it, thus making the choice for jinx to choose silco easier for her as she knows she would be loved no matter what in that chair.
It's not about misunderstanding, it's about simply disagreeing with you.
Vi only met Jinx for a few hours, of course she doesn't know her yet, it takes time to get to know someone again, but even after she saw she was different, she wanted to stay by her side. Silco however, has been with her for so long and he never accepted her, telling her she needs to kill powder, he wanted to build her up to become his own vision of Zaun, he didn't actually accept her as she was, he didn't like Powder, only Jinx, when up until the last episode, she is both. Even with his baptism, Silco couldn't kill Powder.
Both of them truly loved her and wanted the best for her in their own ways, both are so flawed, but trying to say Vi didn't love her as much as Silco? And that Silco was the better option? lmao please.
Right, that`s the beautiful thing about "Arcane": All the "heroes" are flawed as fuck(Vi lacks accountability for her mistakes until she`s already made them and then just keeps making them anyways and pities herself for the unwanted consequences that result but doesn`t really empathize with Powder/Jinx and yet somehow expects by some miracle her baby sister to be less selfish and more empathic than herself even though she does little to set that example and what she does do in that respect is all very superficial, idealizes the past failing to see how it traumatizes others despite being somewhat traumatized herself and punches first ,asks questions later, Caitlyn is not as prejudiced as most Pilties towards the Zaunites but her upper class privilege still colors how she views them and their customs , Mylo has zero patience for Powder a little girl making mistakes, Claggor despite being the most physically imposing of the younger Lanes hates physical confrontation and carrying his weight unless he absolutely has to which is why although he disagrees with Mylo`s cynicism about Powder he never challenges him on it unlike Vi who`s her big sister and yet even she doesn`t challenge it whilst Powder is in earshot at any point ,Vander doesn`t want to repeat the sins of his past but he`s so afraid of losing his adoptive family or them making the same mistakes he fails to properly educate them or prepare them for the dirty and violent politics of Piltover and Zaun, Heimerdinger`s age and paranoia about magic which makes him a hypocrite considering magic is the reason Yordles like him can live so much longer than humans to begin with makes him unempathetic of the struggles of the Zaunites until he befriends Viktor and Ekko and even then it`s in a very shallow way, Jayce and Marcus blindly buy into the Council`s anti-Zaunite prejudices yet exploit Silco and Viktor`s patient natures, both selling out their own people in essence yet naturally only the Zaunites get judged for it even though Silco doesn`t even follow through with the deal in the end because he cannot bring himself to give up Jinx) and the "villains" all have very human motivations of wanting to be seen as equals or as worthwhile as their neighbors above, wanting to be feared instead of in fear, not wanting to feel worthless, not wanting to die, be seen as weak, lose money or be left behind.
So for those of you that also don't know, fixing a leg in no way fixes the lungs that are coughing up blood and leaving this man in a hospital bed. Of course he needs to change more.
It’s sweet hearing how you worry about jinx rather than being a fan girl over how crazy she is.
Mell, a conversation won't cut it to improve things, Jinx just went ful schizo with visual and auditory hallucinations + lots of murder, just like cait said, she is too far gone
You never give up on your family in situations like that.
@@HelloMellowXVI It's easy to say, Vi has no home and is basically wanted topside and undercity, she has 0 means to help Jinx and keep her by her side or even stop her from going to see silco. I mean there is just nothing she can do about it she can barely take care of herself. Thinking otherwise at this point is just self-righteous bullsh*t
The thing is, jinx likes to be jinx. She doesnt want to be powder again, where everything she did or built in the past was a failure. She wants Vi to love her as jinx, like she loved powder. "I thought maybe u can love me like u used to, even tho im different.". Its difficult to help someone who believes nothing is wrong with them. Where they like the way they are.
@@HelloMellowXVI bitch in denial 😂
Vi is one of the strongest characters in the Arcane, Not only physically strong, but also psychologically strong. She endured all this pain from the death of her family, the loss of her sister, and her imprisonment and torture for years. All this and she is still steadfast as Vander said to her, "You have a good heart, do not lose it, no matter how hard the world tries to break you." Yes, Vi did not let circumstances define her character, like the rest of the characters.
And another thing I will argue day and night against those who say she abandoned Powder. They are obviously blind and need glasses more than I do.
One thing I like about Vi is that the creators made her a badass but not invincible. She takes almost as much damage as she dishes out and blocks with her face.
lore wise victor is most overpowered
dis they skipped the part where MARCOS takes her that night?
@@ericjohnson6120I also like how much emotion she expresses. When writing a masculine woman, writers often make them emotionless and somewhat inhuman. But Vi is one of the most expressive characters in the show. She wears her heart on her sleeve a lot of the time and doesn’t hesitate to express love for those around her
Vi is very strong, but I would argue she's far from the psychologically strongest. Vi is honestly helped by the fact that she is a very simple person. Not as in stupid, but straight-forward: if there is a problem, hit it. And we see in the show there are times where that's the correct way to do things, and times where it doesn't work. And when it doesn't work she really doesn't know what to do.
Personally I think Ekko is the strongest character and best leader in the show. He experienced tragedy just like Vi and Powder, but at the end of episode 3 he's completely on his own. Somehow, alone, he managed to create a community of people, especially those who were worst affected by Silco's reign. Despite everything, he's still a good person. An incredibly and justifiably angry and mistrusting person, but a good one.
This is honestly one of best animated series and series in general ever. 👍 The animation, the voice acting, the story, the characters, direction, music - everything is so well done. 💙💗 10/10 imo and one of my favourite shows. Thanks be to Riot Games and Fortiche. And Thank You for the reaction! ♥
Man i think you missed a lot of how bad things are in Zaun like the people there have better choices than Silco. Those kids in the factory don't have parents, jobs, orphanages or a social security check lol. There are no doctors giving out medical care for anything less than your entire savings, only mad scientists hiding away from Enforcers. Vander kept Zaun in stasis out of his own guilt, it may mean peace for now but kids are still being born stillborn from the toxic fumes, enforcers roam the streets beating people for fun, people getting cheated and not being able to move up in the world or have their talents shine. Silco on the other hand introduced survival of the fittest. Now there are entrepreneurs and industry leaders, Enforcers don't dare tread the streets and for the first time Zaunites are making demands from Piltovers. Heck the only reason Silco was able to even bargain for Zaun was because of Jinx's Terrorism...
Aw, Mell, you're just hatin' on Viktor because he has a sorta Russian accent. Don't blame him for that. It's just that, like Trevor Noah pointed out in his special, everything sounds evil in Russian.accent. "Hello, good morning to you" sounds like the start of an international crime.
As a Russian I bursted out laughing when he said that, but yeah people more than ever now have a pre made thoughts (justified I guess…) when they hear me speak English so thanks for defending us
While I enjoyed your reaction, but I disliked that you simply discarded Silco as a character, I know he's evil, he's manipulative, but he cared for Jinx.
The show is a masterpiece, let me sit and watch this with you 😌.
i think sevika is simply loyal to zaun. she wants zaun to be independent and successful, so she called out vander’s avoidant stance and sided with silco. silco did establish power and made loads of money so she remained at his side, especially when he was about to get zaun to independence. finn had no chance. i think in s2 she’ll try to take over silco’s throne and save zaun!
Apparently you can hear Echo knock the grenade away before it explodes.
ARCANE!! This show is amazing! I can't wait for season 2.
For me Silico cared for powder the moment she jumped into his arms because he understood her situation. Wish that never happened but it did and that messed up father daughter relationship grew and it created JINX. The story could have been so damn happier but this one was the chosen inevitable path. Sucks but a great watch.
Silco didn't create Jinx, Vi did (Jinx herself said lol)
wow way to not understand so many characters, its like you are not paying attention at all
I was, I just didn't care about any of them except powder.
@@HelloMellowXVI you mean jinx ?
@@HelloMellowXVISry Im late, but if you watch a show, isn’t it like really important to pay attention to the characters?
Imo mel is most misunderstood because she is so commonly placed within the evil manipulative box even though technically heimendinger and Silko are the most manipulative members and the ones who actually let everything go to shit. So much easier to say she's pretty and she's smart so she's plotting something when whole time her objectives literally matched Jace what about elevation and protection while there may have been a time skip the two characters have been giving each other do me eyes when they appear on screen together and she's been there day one just like Victor just as a benefactor instead of a fellow scientist
"I thought, maybe you could love me like you used to, but you've changed to" ~ Jinx.
As father as daughter. Vi represents Vander, and Jinx represents Silco, two brothers, and two sisters.
Vander and Silco fought together to create the undercity and be independent, after failing, Vander retired but Silco wanted to stay. Even though Vander betrayed Silco, he kept the respect for him, until he made an Enforcer friend (Grayson) to keep peace.
Jinx and Vi's story is kinda similar. After Vi left Powder in episode 3 (Marcus stopped her from comming back), Powder was left alone with Silco, his ideals now became hers. So, when she saw Vi made an enforcer friend (Caitlyn) she felt betrayed.
Those last words she said to Vi meant that, it's impossible to go back from Jinx to Powder. She will never heal, she's been damaged for a long time, but Vi only sees her as Powder, she doesn't like the new Persona of Jinx. What Silco said is right, she's gonna turn her back on Jinx when she realizes she's not that little girl anymore.
The guy you were saying wanted to change his whole body, he has a terminal disease. Whatever he did with his leg didn’t fix that, so he was still trying to save his life.
This show is truly amazing. I will never play LoL but they knocked this show out of the park
What Jinx needs is someone who is happy with her being a mix of Powder and Jinx. That person is not Vi. Vi sees her as Powder, the little sister that she needs to protect.
It has to do with the game, is just that it is an adaptation.
And like with many adaptations they change some stuff, the same way MCU movies are not completely 100% the same as the comics.
So were any of these characters in the game before the show came out???
@@HelloMellowXVI yeah, Viktor, Jayce, Ekko, Singed, Heimer, Jinx, Vi, Caitlyn and another one that I can't say to avoid possible season 2 spoilers, in fact, if you go to the Runeterra Interactive Map you'll see Piltover and Zaun compared to the rest of the world
I dont think it counts as manipulation when he actually believe what he is telling her.
Which I absolutely think he does.
Silco is a seriously damaged person too.
His very narrow world view is the lessons life as an oppressed victim of perpetual war has tought him.
He is wrong, on most accounts, but he actually believe its true...
Thats not manipulation, nor lying.
There is no malicious intent to misslead.
He genuinly love Jinx.
He complaining about Silco being underwhelming when he's one of the best antagonists I've seen in years.
I've seen a lot of people get confused by the moon at the end... but like... the moon is millions of miles away, like man it would take a year for that rocket to fly to the moon lol, even with the hextech engine
Silco loved Jinx. He wasn't trying to manipulate her, the things he was saying was just based off his personal experiences. Everybody he knew did betray him and stabbed him in the back that's all he knows.
the best way to look at the show is it’s more of a tragedy and a warning of what could happen
It’s a commentary on inaction lack of cooperation, and forced division and what would happen if you let these problems fester
Viktor wanted to change more than his leg cause he was you know DYING, it seems you forgot his body was breaking down, and he collapsed in ep 6
"Just take them both, the head will be replaced."
That's the problem, though: you don't know who will replace the head. It might be someone who isn't willing to negotiate and who might be even worse than Silco. This is actually the smartest thing Jace does the whole season.
Exactly! Not to mention the dramatic turn of events necessary to even make Silco come to surface.Topside never knew about him in the first place, and now that they did, they might never would be able to control him, but at least they could adapt to him and his now come true independent nation of Zhaun. If it weren't for Jinx and all that...
Now just imagine a certain mob boss, for example, rising from the once again pitch-black shadows of the trenches and claiming his place as the snake's head, who is built like a retail shelf, armed like a 60t tank, and - eventually - walks like a giant bionic man-spider with SHOTGUN KNEES! I'd be terrified for both Piltover and Zhaun!
Not your best reaction but enjoyed it anyway! Really liked the way you empathized with Powder/Jinx where other reactors were just hating, shame you didn't perhaps understand Silco's journey. ( In the end he became like Vander, prioritized his "kid" over the cause however twisted he was ).
Fire show! Season 2 confirmed but we'll have to wait years again 😢
41:11, d*mn, you GOT it! Only half, but still.
A lot of the characters from this show are characters straight from League of Legends, and they do have a lot of written lore about the characters, but they don't strictly adhere to every single tiny thing (they've changed lore over the years). Heimerdinger, Jayce, Viktor, Vi, Jinx, Ekko, and Singed (the doctor) are all characters from the game. And I think (don't hold me to this) they may make Vander a character from the game that is an experiment of Singed. Also, the Jinx song (Get Jinxed) was a song from when the character was released in the game.
Great choice, this is one of my favorite shows of all time. Other favorites lately are Andor and Cyberpunk Edgerunners
1:03:15 in that moment you can see powder peeking out & Ekko knew, that’s probably why he smiled a bit
Savika been a G ... She's a real one and has been as good as Vi the whole time. Both fights were fair ones with a surprise at the end.
All the fight scenes were unique & amazing. That being said, my favorite was the Vi/Sevika back-alley scrap from Ep.5. That choreo was so good!!
The 90 degree spin of the camera when Sevika picks Vi up to slam her is so cool and creative.
The whole point of Jinx and her name is that she jinxes everything she does, she killed both her fathers, if she didn’t show up vander would’ve been saved. She shoots at the council starting a war while they were agreeing on peace so if she hadn’t shot, Silco would’ve won his nation of zaun (independent undercity). Everything about her character is that all the terrible things that happen in this show could’ve been avoided if she followed one simple instruction from vi. She jinxes everything she does. Also silco was feeling the same way as vander when talking to the statue since he was so close to freeing the undercity but now understands vanders perspective on loving jinx like his daughter how vander loved vi and in the end he couldn’t give her up either. Other than that he was in power the entire time and was an outstanding villain that has a real arc idk why u don’t like him
Vi's tats are... well, VI - V for 5, I for 1, and VI for 6, her prisoner ID number, as well as her name!
Man Arcane is a gold standard show
Favorite character in League of Legends, who I mained for years before quitting League, is Jayce. It was so nice to see him in this show and in such extent.
From someone who has watched this show about 17 + times I’m still seeing things that strike me as impressive story telling.
In the opening scene of episode one you see an enforcer shooting someone point blank and then the scene starts to get scrambled and scratchy…
That’s because this is powder’s perspective and that was her mother getting shot execution style in front of her. This causes her mind to start to break and hallucinate as she looks at the dead people around her.
And another detail just from episode one is the cleaver reveal of what valuable currency looks like. When the kids are just about to get shook down for their haul, Deckard is rolling a somewhat silver coin in his hand.
This becomes important in a coming up scene where Huck is getting scammed by two thugs and they show a bronze looking coin (Ofc bronze being a value that all league players are quite familiar with 😂).
But the ability to show more information about the world and setting without directly explaining it with dialog, is something that I see this show do with absolute mastery.
I wish other writers could replicate such remarkable storytelling.
you should check out the behind the scenes "Bridging the Rift"
"People be leavin' food out..." It is based in a videogame, Mell. How else are you going to get your health back otherwise? Also, at least the food isn't in trash cans as in Metro City. Those boys in the are eating turkey and burgers out of barrels and trash cans. Mike Haggar was a champion pro-wrestler AND city mayor and he still had to punch trash cans for his food.
Has nothing to do with the game? You are wrong sir. Damn
To answer your question, Marcus is undoubtedly the most annoying character in this show….and you should check out the music video for Imagine Dragons “Enemy”
You should watch the league of legend animation they are so good and you can see why the animation styles are the way that they are. League already has backstories for pretty much everyone so thats why it seemed like the stories were everywhere, even the areas involved.
I watched almost all Arcane reactions, a dozen of deep dives, and watched the show about 10+ times.
I never saw or speak to anyone that understood this little of this masterpiece of a show..
I agree.
the best way I can describe Arcane is beautifully chaotic. Normally having all these different subplots wouldn't work but the writing is so tight and good it all comes together
You could say that Powder is now Jinx
And Sky is the new...... Powder🫢
I….😂
" What made them want to do this? "
Money, Mell. MONEY.
40:55 its funny that you mentioned Mass Effect, Viktor's assistant is voiced by the same actress who played Ashley Williams.
In reaction to Melo asking if there’s a League of Legends battle royal. There’s actually a League of Legends fighting game in the works. Not sure when it’ll be released though
i don't think you understand silco yes he did horrible things but he did care for vander and jinx
"didn't care about caitlyn" "didn't care silco loved jinx" just cared about the cool fight scenes and different hair colored people i guess. i don't even know what you even understood while watching this show? just because you didn't "care" doesn't mean it's not well written and canon. putting characters in a trope box is exactly what the writers avoided & that's exactly what you did. 😐
Lmao really butt hurt I see 🤣 you acting like I said the show was terrible. I liked the show just didn't care about the characters but you're in your feelings about it.
The reason why Silco pointed the gun at Vi in that moment was because Vi was forcing Jinx to remember so she can be 'Powder' again. In Vi's defense, she didn't know that for Jinx; remembering Vander, Mylo and Claggor causes her PTSD to trigger because she had blamed herself with their death and the auditory hallucinations were definitely not helping.
Silco IS the main villain and the antagonist of this season don't get me wrong, not saying he's just misunderstood, man did kill people and did shady things after all. But just like Vander, he was willing to give up what he believes in to save his daughter. The pinnacle scene was with Silco and Vander's statue and his quote 'Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?' It parallels Vander's decision with leaving the rebellion to take care of the sisters. And for others saying it: No, he's not like Thanos in that regard because he tortured Nebula and killed Gamora to get what he wants.
I enjoy yours as well as Mr Videos intros. Tho y’all are the only two I enjoy and actually watch 🤷♂️. So it’s understandable
Can't believe you did it all in one go!
You're a hard, mean, watching machine!😮
@the voice acting is top notch! The Americans have the adapt too, cuz the Japanese break the fking records!👊
*Ep 2* I don't trust this Viktor dude.
*Ep 8* I'd die for my boy Viktor.
Timelapse? Ep8
most of what happened to powder was either caused or mostly made worse by her own actions
Did he just say he thought silco the best villain ever was underwhelming? Oh hell naw instant dislike
Because as the villian he ain't do shit expect for the first act. Everything else was powder. But it is what is. Appreciate the view and engagement anyway
@@HelloMellowXVI because he isn’t your typical villain who wants to watch the world burn dumbass
@@asmodaymomo5780 Her Name Is Effing Powder...
I love this show!!! Can't wait for the next season 😻
Man this video never gets old I swear
34:06. I love how Jinx's negative thoughts manifest in visions of Mylo! That just goes to show how much impact his bullying had on her!
In episode 3 I could actually see them all getting away if powder didn’t show up cause they had the wall and Vander was free they were about to leave then it blew up
Think about that longer than the five seconds you took to write it and it'll sound ridiculous. Silco already set the trap, spreading the rumor that Vander "fled town with his kids and was never heard from again". He had a juiced-up Deckard right on their tails. We're even blatantly shown that he was about to cave in the door (both my the massive dents at the top and bottom, as well as ripping it off after the blast), meaning he'd have been on top of them in just a minute longer. Claggor breaking the wall would have done... what exactly? They weren't on the ground floor and had no way to shimmy down--we saw Vander leap out a multi-story window with Vi to prove that. Even if they HAD miraculously escaped Deckard and all the guards everywhere, who was going to stop Deckard from catching them moments later? They can't fight him. They can't outrun him. If Vander was busy trying to "escape" with the kids, who would have held off Deckard? Who would have taken the shimmer to stop him? You have to form credible thoughts based on the context presented, not make-believe scenarios you cooked up out of nowhere.
Escaping was never an option. They were all going to die. Powder's intervention ended up saving her and Vi's lives, but also tragically shifted the "blame" onto herself. There was no possible scenario in which that escape worked.
@@LockeNarshe Vander almost 1 v 1 him while beeing hurt by the explosion. With him freed their chance of surviving woulld be high. Also at this point Silco doesn t have much influence he has just his crew and Sevika's crew which were mostly defeated by vi while Vander was still the ruler of the undercity.
Bruh, the hextech washing machine falling apart at 32:19 had me WEEPING 😂😂😂
Mellow is the first reactor I’ve seen that said the group should have taken Jinx. I’m kind of impressed.
21:11, well... Time you'll understand, as you get older and older... Or just joint the army and to middle east for one trip.
Damn, I get that not everyone is open-minded... but Mell over here not even trying to see the layered nuances at play. It's like watching someone eat a meticulously handcrafted pizza with fresh, homegrown ingredients and your grandma's secret sauce only to go--yeah, I mean, it's just like any other pizza; what about it?
It is. I will shit it out like any other pizza lmao....
God this is such an amazingly composed and created piece of cinema. Unbelievable. Groundbreaking, and all the other possible nouns for amazing.
so if you had a daughter and she shot you bc she had a misunderstanding that made her hate you, you would stay silent while you died and not clear up the misunderstanding bc you have to "let go of her mind?" what a bizzare thought process.
Arcane is easily imo best tv show of all time ❤
You missed alot definitely re watch it
30:05 Now if we're talking about from the game, Kog'maw, from the show, Vander. Also you should check out the video "get Jinxed".
You didn’t understand Silco at all - he truly loves and cares about Jinx.
No body did at first but it’s only the start it doesn’t go fully into their relationship yet jeez
I did understand, I just didn't like him. I don't give a damn if he loved her.
@@HelloMellowXVI You didnt "understand" him, you placed him in a trope box and are trying to justify that he is evil. He is doing the best he can to save the undercity and be a hero. Its like where you make comments about sivika being a bum and vi been wooping ass, dude sivika is running the streets and fighting power and vi has been in jail her whole life getting wooped by guards... not a big deal at face value but shows you cant look past the surface level.
@ygkemosabi8280 tried to save the undercity yet he didn't. Didn't make not one damn move. And he used everyone. So try again, and you really assume shit about me over a damn fight? Lmao just a wanna be high and mighty know it all, chill with that. You know nothing about me and you obviously not smart enough to know what trash talk, sarcasm, and jokes are....
@@HelloMellowXVI >not one move
We literally see the Council not only acknowledge the undercity but also be ready to give them independence. This all happened under Silco's rule. When Vander was around, the Council didn't even know the undercity was a thing.
(maybe spoilers) i feel kind of bad that you are this late to the show but its good and bad, ive seen the show 6 times now and i'm so keen for season 2 but your over a year late to the show so you don't have to wait as long as the day 1 warchers haha (played league 2011-2016) i got some of my non animation watching friends into arcane told them they only need to start episodde 3 3 and they will be hooked i was right every time in a week i would have messages like i finished it that was insane, but no one truly appreciated the ending. i cried the first time i watched
just heard you wonder if their are small things players would understand there absolutely are but the main reason i got others to watch is because if they don't play the game they don't know who the characters from the game are or what to predict but the players get the most immersive experience seeing all of the details that just click (10/10 show for everyone)
So there no current plan to make a league of legends battle Royal game but they are working on a MMORPG game set in the league of legends universe.
Also sense people do pay to buy skins in league of legends they did make skins for the characters in this show that are champions in the game
That washer meme shouldn't have been funny.
Bro you gotta watch The Apothecary Diaries if you haven't already. It's funny and cute. Or Kaiju No 8, I am really enjoying that right now
i appreciate this shows- no RIOT'S (Producers of Arcane, League of Legends and Valorant) attention to detail with how they design characters specifically how they design and portray POC in their works.. although this isn't anywhere near a race discussion i appreciate them for going out of their way to put in effort into thing's like POC'S hair designs.. its beautiful.
first reaction I seen that don't include Vi's "See this look in my face?"
it amazes me how so many people dont understand Silco at all lol. A lot of people just don't pay attention