One of the Heroes of Yore? [Hyness] | Canon or Cannot?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 янв 2025

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  • @Meteorz
    @Meteorz  4 года назад +138

    Alright, well I hope the first two episodes of this series gave everyone a good idea as to how the series works! (It will definitely give ME a good idea at how the reception is…)
    I will note, that I will try to make each episode as different as possible, so if you want to hear a theory, please avoid stuff like “(Thing) Was created by the Ancients” or “(Character) is one of the Heroes of Yore!”
    As for now, I’m going to start working on my next Kirby Canon, probably the last one that will get into DEEP lore. (At least until the next game, which I’m sure will be announced very soon… right?...) Look forward to that! I must admit, I look forward to doing a couple lighthearted episodes for a change…

    • @cozmactudioz9924
      @cozmactudioz9924 4 года назад

      That was a good intro :D

    • @chinyereudeh3405
      @chinyereudeh3405 4 года назад

      Great work as always Meteorz! I can't wait for the next Kirby canon video, because I know for sure it'll be great! I'll also see if I could submit one of my own theories in the past videos.
      Also, if you makes you feel any better, HAL has already confirmed that a new Kirby game is in development (it has been for roughly a year now). So we might see an announcement in a year or two. We'll have to see what they have planned for us!

    • @avi8aviate
      @avi8aviate 4 года назад

      If Void was the origin of the Kirby universe, then what made Void?

    • @mittycommitspizzatime92
      @mittycommitspizzatime92 4 года назад

      oof, mine was that Dedede was one of the 4 heroes of yore 😔

    • @avi8aviate
      @avi8aviate 4 года назад

      @@scorpionc31c54 You do realize you don't have to delete your comments and replies to edit them, right?

  • @memerio1458
    @memerio1458 4 года назад +253

    I didn’t comment on the last episode of this series, so I wanna say this now: Kimi’s animations are a great touch to this series.

  • @iliakazakov5947
    @iliakazakov5947 4 года назад +109

    Fun fact: In Super Kirby Clash, the music that is played when Parallel Nightmare summons Aeon Hero, the name of that music is "Nightmare of the galactic crisis".

    • @xabi7772
      @xabi7772 4 года назад +12

      Underrated comment.

    • @Meteorz
      @Meteorz  4 года назад +69

      Wow, that's a pretty cool fact! HAL's hiding lore in music titles now? 😋

    • @xabi7772
      @xabi7772 4 года назад +19

      @@Meteorz Yes, I also noticed lore in Void's theme being called "Sparkling Star".

    • @xabi7772
      @xabi7772 4 года назад +1

      Where did you find the title of that song? It isn't titled in the Kirby Wiki.
      kirby.fandom.com/ja/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%93%E3%82%A3%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA/%E9%9F%B3%E6%A5%BD

    • @iliakazakov5947
      @iliakazakov5947 4 года назад +4

      @@xabi7772 I found it on youtube ruclips.net/video/K-6gNOG8NNY/видео.html

  • @ArchbowMistress
    @ArchbowMistress 4 года назад +178

    At 1:54, it explicitly states that, "All that was written about Void Termina in the ancient scrolls was that the progenitor of darkness was vanquished BY THE FOUR HEROES OF YORE.
    Hyness HAD to read these scrolls, meaning he was not even there when Void Termina was sealed! That's already huge evidence that Hyness ain't a hero of yore.
    (also I have a theory of my own regarding Galacta Knight and his representation in the Kirby crew. There are 4 heroes right? The main Kirby crew has four members: Kirby, Bandana Waddle Dee, King Dedede and Meta Knight. I'd like to think that Galacta Knight had a similar team line up and he is the "Meta Knight" of his group. NOT the Kirby of the group. There is really not much meat about this but I'd like to think it is a piece to a bigger puzzle. Thankd for reading!)

    • @bluebytheohwow
      @bluebytheohwow 4 года назад +27

      I agree with that, and I've thought the exact same thing about the four heroes of Yore being similar to the Kirby crew! I also think that one of them was a previous incarnation of Kirby himself, if we consider the Void = Kirby theory is true, which I find likely.

    • @aedaniammx7559
      @aedaniammx7559 4 года назад +28

      Considering his title in Super Kirby Clash, Aeon Hero, I always thought his team would be more similar to Team Kirby from those games. A sword HERO, followed by three others of the same species with different abilities.

    • @eyeccantseeyouu
      @eyeccantseeyouu 4 года назад +8

      I would say something like kirbs rag tag team being descendants of funny aeon heros team but we will have to wait a bit for that

    • @brian_Austin27
      @brian_Austin27 4 года назад +1

      Yeah I agree

    • @knifepony
      @knifepony 2 года назад

      If that's true, then Fecto Elifis makes for a good Bandana Dee.

  • @Elixer
    @Elixer 4 года назад +7

    I really adore this series already and you're only two episodes in!! Can't wait for more dude.

  • @CyanicCore
    @CyanicCore 4 года назад +25

    1:10 I think Hyness attempted to search another dimension, and Galacta Knight took advantage of the portal to come back.

  • @pappyg3187
    @pappyg3187 4 года назад +31

    I have a theory that Dark Nebula is actually Zero's soul. I commented this before, but I wanted to see what happens if I type this closer to a video's release.
    In Japan, Dark Nebula is actually called Dark Zero, so there is a connection between them beyond them both just being Dark Matter. Dark Nebula is also called the ruler of the underworld. What if the reason for that title is because Zero's soul was plunged into the underworld after being killed by Kirby, but Zero was able to take over the underworld due to his immense power. He then somehow escaped the underworld, but was imprisoned again in a chest. Now it's important to remember that 02 isn't an undead Zero, 02 is the reconstructed white ball that the original Zero departed from. This would also explain why Dark Nebula is so weak without possessing anyone. The main eyeball of Zero the gouged itself out from the rest of the body was also destroyed easily after a few hits. Perhaps Necrodeus was the original ruler of the underworld that was overthrown by Zero after Kirby killed them. It would explain why Necrodeus doesn't appear as a villain until the game right after Squeak Squad.

    • @NSPBWii
      @NSPBWii 4 года назад +4

      Sounds Plausible

    • @LordJanenmba
      @LordJanenmba 4 года назад +1

      Sorry, but actually it was stated that 02 and Dark Zero are both different person from Zero

    • @sbyrd1495
      @sbyrd1495 4 года назад +1

      @@LordJanenmba I mean Zero and 02 are basically the same person but they are different

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 4 года назад +1

      I thought the japanese title of dark nebula is just lord of the dark or something like that. I doubt the underworld even exists in the kirby universe. And because of the title of lord implying being a leader and we never actually see dark nebula command the darkness, I buy into the theory that he is some kind of sealed remnant of miracle matter that was entrusted to dedede with knowledge being disclosed to metaknight in case anything goes wrong.

  • @Diego-cs2bf
    @Diego-cs2bf 4 года назад +62

    King Dedede might be an Ancient
    One noticeable thing about Dedede is his signature logo on the back of his royal garb. A blue circle with two floppy blue ears (Kind of like a bunny). I know it’s meant to be the peace sign with his hands, but the reason I mention this is because it was originally yellow (like his glove), but was changed to blue after Kirby’s Return to Dreamland. I’m probably looking way too deep into this, but I wanted to mention it. Also, he has blue skin like Hyness, and we have never seen what is under his hat.
    One other thing to note is his connection to the Star Rod, a magic weapon created by the Ancients. He noticed Nightmare’s presence around the Star Rod even before Meta Knight and he knows how to fully use its power and combine it with his hammer. The Star Rod is a mythical weapon, designed specifically for Star Warriors like Kirby, so for Dedede to know how to use its full power is very impressive. I know that the fight in Kirby Fighters Deluxe is most likely not canon, but these non-canon side games are still worth mentioning, as it looks like they flesh out the lore.
    Other smaller indications is his remarkable intelligence. He knows how to build inventions like the Dededestroyer Z, Dededetour shows how he would’ve destroyed the Dimensional Mirror, and he even shows properties of magic through his machines, specifically the Masked Dedede Hammer.
    And as a bonus (This doesn’t really count), he’s the one who literally saved everyone during the Subspace War. He was the one to capture all some of the trophies and created an invention that would literally save them. Without him and his intellect, Tabuu would’ve won. But this isn’t canon in any form to Kirby so it doesn’t count.
    I recognize that a lot of these are just far reaches and guesses, and I’m most likely wrong in a few places, but I still wanted to question Dedede, as he has no canonical backstory.
    “Hehehe! I am a supah stah warriah!”

    • @scorpionc31c54
      @scorpionc31c54 4 года назад +34

      Right! or at least his ancestors.. In the great cave offensive, an ancient cave that has replicated artifacts.. we can find a cape that is said to belong to a king. King dedede knows alot about the fountain of dreams, how did he know about nightmare in adventure or how to make clones of himself in kirby fighters deluxe? Sure it says, he is a self proclaimed king but considering he has a FORGOTTEN CHEST, has a mask of unknown orgin, a robot based off him, and also has his symbol on void terminas body.. king dedede may truly have something to do with the ancients.

    • @Mooffgamesgamer
      @Mooffgamesgamer 4 года назад +3

      scorpionC31 c I didn’t see king dedede’s symbol in void, lol. Maybe it’s because I’m more on killing him than being attentive to the design

    • @scorpionc31c54
      @scorpionc31c54 4 года назад +14

      @@Mooffgamesgamer understandable. It is hard to spot. You can see on the wiki page on void termina, it shows the symbols on his body. All sorts of symbols. Not just king dedede, but meta knight, dark nebula, and etc. It's pretty weird. ( also it's not the symbol he has on his back, it's a glove )

    • @Mooffgamesgamer
      @Mooffgamesgamer 4 года назад +5

      scorpionC31 c this is fascinating info, and this really does make me have questions

    • @scorpionc31c54
      @scorpionc31c54 4 года назад +6

      @@Mooffgamesgamer haha! Yeah I know right! I've been researching kirby lore like crazy. If you wanna hear more on some of the information, I've gathered on the whole thing, I have a video talking about king dedede if your interested.

  • @enderknight1442
    @enderknight1442 4 года назад +8

    I personally think that the four heroes of yore were based on the classes in Kirby Clash. Galacta Knight is the swordsman class for example. The others are Hammer, Alchemist, and Mage.

    • @carloscastellanosdarkeyesi6126
      @carloscastellanosdarkeyesi6126 4 года назад +3

      Yeah, like the Kirbys are some sort of placeholder for them. Maybe those were not their actual adventures, but i think it would make sense.

    • @mittycommitspizzatime92
      @mittycommitspizzatime92 4 года назад +2

      Always thought of it that way. Maybe that’s the reason I thought Dedede could be one of the Heroes.

    • @enderknight1442
      @enderknight1442 4 года назад

      Mitty Commits Pizza Time Not sure that Dedede could be one of the Heroes of Yore. He’d have a white beard as long as the Dreamstalk if that were the case. Though I do think that the Heroes of Yore may still be alive (possibly preserved the same way Galacta Knight was) and are yet to be seen.

    • @dereklucks4549
      @dereklucks4549 3 года назад +1

      @@enderknight1442 I think someone related to Dedede can be a hero of yore technically.

    • @enderknight1442
      @enderknight1442 3 года назад

      @@dereklucks4549 Perhaps.

  • @LeviChurch
    @LeviChurch 4 года назад +8

    02:09 ooo, I just noticed you can see a DNA strand on the Jamba Heart in the opening cut scene.

    • @novinovi-
      @novinovi- 4 года назад +3

      Yeah! I saw the jambastion symbol on it... if only we could translate the Halcandran runes.

  • @thundermarisol
    @thundermarisol 4 года назад +6

    HOOOO BOY!
    Didn't expect this again, but doesn't matter! Great work as always!

  • @drain1718
    @drain1718 4 года назад +15

    Alternate title: meteorz roasting a theory for three minutes

  • @nathanielzuranski
    @nathanielzuranski 4 года назад +1

    I just came here to say I love Kirby lore, probably my favorite lore of any video game. It's just so bleak and mysterious.
    Oh and that I love your channel and all that you do, keep up the great work.

  • @a_person5668
    @a_person5668 4 года назад +6

    This doesn’t exactly count, but I remember someone saying you could see the Mirror from Amazing Mirror in the background of the space world map thing in Star allies. Having a confirmed location of the Mirror would be interesting...

  • @justjames4
    @justjames4 4 года назад +6

    I saw Void Termina's seal floating while in the ripped space-time created by Aeon Hero Dark. I don't have a scan, so try to find it! This doesn't seem to change anything about this video though.

    • @vortex7926
      @vortex7926 4 года назад +3

      Actually it does change something. He assumed that the heart was sealed in the altar a long time ago, but this would imply that it was floating out in space, and Hyness found it and brought it too the altar.
      Also meteorz has already seen the picture.

    • @Meteorz
      @Meteorz  4 года назад +6

      That was a single Jamba Heart in the ripped time, not the entirety of the seal.

    • @justjames4
      @justjames4 4 года назад +3

      @@Meteorz Oh, I guess I didn't inspect it thoroughly enough due to focusing on the battle. Thanks!

  • @flutterflyer849
    @flutterflyer849 4 года назад +2

    It's probably not worth making a video on, but I always imagined that the flower petal at the end of the Soul of Sectonia fight is what Star Dream uses in Robobot to make the clone of her.

  • @edolasgemerald8307
    @edolasgemerald8307 4 года назад +2

    Hey awesome work on these videos!
    Super fun to dive into this stuff, glad you're able to make content like this when there's not many other people willing to talk about Kirby lore lol
    I personally enjoy looking into the potential for crossovers Kirby can have, though this 'theory' may not work very well for your style of videos. The 'theory' that the stories of Kirby and Metroid (and other series) are connected.
    Of course, Samus Aran shows up in Dreamland 3 along with some Metroids, but I question if this is actually possible. Though there's not many contradictions between the universes these games take place in, we know that the 'Earth" in Kirby's universe is currently frozen over, but in the Metroid universe, the Galactic Federations capital planet is Earth itself. Also, PNF-404 AKA the Pikmin Planet, is believed to be an Earth where humans have gone extinct, so these games taking place at the same time might be a stretch.
    There's also the planets from Milky Way Wishes being referenced in the Star Fox Zero animated short. As well as Mario & co. physically showing up to Dedede's Castle during Spring Breeze; Seems weird at first, but I don't think it's out of the question for Mario to travel to different planets after Galaxy.

  • @johnofonett8036
    @johnofonett8036 4 года назад +3

    I really wanna know. What the hell is with Ripple Star?
    Why does Queen Ripple look so different from Ribbon and the other fairies?
    Why are they the guardians of the Crystal Shard (a weapon strong enough to defeat ZERO)?
    We know basically nothing about the planet or it’s people!

  • @drakath5727
    @drakath5727 4 года назад +10

    Could "another dimension" have been destroyed by Void Termina in a forgotten era, and the Lor Starcutter was used as a means to evacuate to Halcandra?

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 4 года назад +2

      What do you mean by "destroyed"? It's still there, but it's just weird an abstract, and home of the Sphere Doomers, which are similarly weird, but not as abstract. Hell, I'm pretty sure Halcandra is IN Another Dimension.

    • @bestaround3323
      @bestaround3323 4 года назад +1

      @@syweb2 It is in a different dimension, not another dimension. Another dimension is like a sub space.

  • @pawmotmasuku
    @pawmotmasuku 4 года назад +3

    I have a friend who thinks that Max Profit Haltmann and Susanna Patrya Haltmann are part of the same species as Magolor. I would love to hear someone's opinion on this.

  • @skylerwoods7392
    @skylerwoods7392 4 года назад +4

    Ah yes the 4 legendary heroes nova, parallel nightmare, star dream, and hyness.

  • @tanman7568
    @tanman7568 4 года назад +2

    Clever name for the new series.

  • @rainbowarchivesseeaboutsec6006
    @rainbowarchivesseeaboutsec6006 4 года назад +1

    That picture of Kirby at the end just screams "How did you come to THAT conclusion in the first place? Evidence is stacked against you, bub."

  • @cpwcomputerplayerwill
    @cpwcomputerplayerwill 4 года назад +7

    Random thing I thought of yesterday: is there a reason Halcandran Bouncy has Voids face? And star dream has a similar looking pattern

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 4 года назад +1

      I see your point about Halcan Bouncy, but what about Star Dream? I don't see any connection there.

    • @cpwcomputerplayerwill
      @cpwcomputerplayerwill 4 года назад +1

      syweb2 The lines on the front look like a heart with two dots like void

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 4 года назад +3

      @@cpwcomputerplayerwill I see the heart, but that's because Star Dream generally has a heart theme. You see it there, in the portals it makes, in the bombs it uses on Phase 1, and in other places.

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom 4 года назад +7

    I'm really excited for Meteorz to make another Kirby theory and try to theorize when exactly HAL will remember that they used to make Kirby games

    • @FedoraKirb
      @FedoraKirb 4 года назад +6

      I think it’s OK that they’re taking their time, if that “next phase” and “lots of Kirby in the future” quotes were anything to go by.

    • @kagaillard
      @kagaillard 4 года назад +1

      I See YOU everywhere

    • @Mooffgamesgamer
      @Mooffgamesgamer 4 года назад

      Earthbound Fan Z for reals lol, but who cares?

    • @carloscastellanosdarkeyesi6126
      @carloscastellanosdarkeyesi6126 4 года назад

      Maybe it's just the pandemic. They should be finished by the end of the year.

    • @xabi7772
      @xabi7772 4 года назад +1

      Well, in later 2019 HAL was searching people to work in the next Kirby game. If we consider that they also started the development in later 2019, a brand new Kirby game would be released in later 2022 or early 2023.

  • @Matias-fh2hf
    @Matias-fh2hf 4 года назад +2

    METEORZ NEW KIRBY GE

  • @manteiga6522
    @manteiga6522 4 года назад +4

    Hyness was part of the cult that praised Void Termina, if anything he was probably an enemy of the heroes of yore, maybe even their biggest enemy

    • @Murr248
      @Murr248 3 года назад

      Actually, he learned about Void after he was banished

    • @manteiga6522
      @manteiga6522 3 года назад

      How could he have learned about void after being banished if he was banished for worshipping void?

    • @Murr248
      @Murr248 3 года назад

      @@manteiga6522 that’s the thing. He wasn’t banished for worshipping void. He was banished first, and according to an interview he had a dream in which case a being invited him to a new world. He studied and found void to look like the god in his dream. Though based on Void’s final form he could’ve mistaken Void for *someone else*

    • @manteiga6522
      @manteiga6522 3 года назад

      That's odd, do you have a link to that interview?

    • @Murr248
      @Murr248 3 года назад

      @@manteiga6522 I have a link to the wiki page kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Hyness#History

  • @fruitsalad7404
    @fruitsalad7404 4 года назад +1

    I got a theory. Maybe every kirby single kirby game all takes place in kirby's dreams which is why his home is called dreamland and why there is a fountain of dreams and a final boss named Nightmare. This is probably a dumb theory but oh well. Btw I love the new series😁.

  • @vortex7926
    @vortex7926 4 года назад +15

    Okay, this may be a bit of a stretch, but let me explain. During Hyness' rant when's he's talking about being banished to the edge of the galaxy, he says "They tried to erase us from existence!" That is the exact same thing that happened to Haltmann when he misused stardream, except in his case it was accidental because he didn't know how to control star dream properly. So my theory is that the ancients used star dream to try to erase the heroes of yore and anyone else they were afraid of. That might also explain why Hyness lost his memories of void termina and had to rely on the scrolls. Haltmann also slowly lost his memories whenever he used star dream. Although the memory loss might also be tied to the heart spears. They're litteraly called heart spears, so it's a possibility that the heroes used their own heart to create the spear and seal void termina, and then afterwards they had no heart left. They didn't necessarily become corrupted, they just lost all heart. That might also explain why galacta Knight became so power hungry.
    Anyway, even though rarely anybody reads my comments, I just have fun writing them down. It's so much fun theorizing about things.

    • @chinyereudeh3405
      @chinyereudeh3405 4 года назад +6

      Interesting, while I don't believe that Hyness is a hero of yore, nor do I think Star Dream had anything to do with his banishment and the four heroes, I think your theory that the four heroes of yore gave up their hearts to seal him is plausible.
      In the Japanese version of the game, it notes that Hyness gave up his heart (specifically "forsakened" it) to Void Termina. This was what causes his spiral into insanity and also the corruption in his heart that would eventually explode and transform him into Corrupt Hyness. There is also the fact that he sacrificed himself and the Three Mage Sisters in order to ressurect VT. It was literally eating up hearts of corruption (basically concentrated evil energy) so it isn't too much of a stretch to say that VT took their corrupted hearts away in order to ressurrect (the reason the Mage Sisters are corrupt is likely because they also worshipped VT). This is more supported by how the Mage Sisters look in HiAD; they look corrupted like Corrupt Hyness (it also similar to their look when Hyness drained them of their life force in the main game, which only more supports that they may have had their source of "life" taken away: their hearts), and in order to save them you have to hit them with a Friend Heart, essentially restoring their hearts. And this is the same for Hyness too!
      Oh my gosh, looking at it now, this theory really holds up. I hope this gets Meteorz attention, because I honestly think the potential for a canon theory is there!

    • @alexbaribeault
      @alexbaribeault 3 года назад

      Commenting to bring more attention to this

    • @dereklucks4549
      @dereklucks4549 3 года назад +2

      @@chinyereudeh3405 Very late but yes in the novels from Mie Takase it is noted that Meta Knight stated that the four spears each technically have a soul of the four heroes and Galacta Knight never spoke and only acted based on "primal instinct" regarded as cold and cruel.

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber 4 года назад +17

    One counterpoint - it's possible to know how to do something without knowing how to undo that thing if undoing it isn't as simple as just following the instructions in reverse. For example, you can't just simply undo nuclear fusion or fission reactions. Certain chemical reactions (any form of combustion, for example) also can't just be undone in reverse. It's possible the sealing spell is the same way, especially if if wasn't intended to be undone in the first place.
    Also, it's kinda implied that Hyness went insane due to his banishment at some point and decided to use Void Termina for revenge.
    I have to agree with you on the connection between Hyness and Galacta Knight, though. There's really not any evidence that Galacta Knight was involved in Void's sealing apart from that one attack in a game of dubious canonicity.

    • @chinyereudeh3405
      @chinyereudeh3405 4 года назад +8

      Your first point is a great point. You're right on that. But I have to disagree with your second point. While it makes sense Hyness used VT for revenge, it still doesn't explain why he is so highly worshiped by Hyness, nor why Hyness so deeply believes in the "Jambastion Clan" (I have no other name for the magic using ancients) that he went on to become its new leader and restore it to former glory as prophecised in the book of legend.
      Moreover, in an interview Kumazaki said that Hyness had a vision of a god telling him to follow him to paradise, and after researching Hyness came to the conclusion that this god was Void Termina. So that only points to the fact that Hyness actually had faith in VT, even more so when we know that Hyness gave up everything for him (I believe the Japanese version of the game says that Hyness "forsakened/abandoned his heart to VT).

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 4 года назад +5

      @@chinyereudeh3405
      That doesn't necessarily disprove the possibility of him having been involved with the sealing of Void Termina in the first place, though. The idea of someone completely turning around like that isn't entirely unrealistic.
      It's possible that the research he did was to see if Void Termina matched his visions.

    • @chinyereudeh3405
      @chinyereudeh3405 4 года назад +6

      @@VestedUTuber True, I was just making a point that it seems unlikely. For me personally, it just doesn't seem all too possible when it makes more sense that he's not one of the four heroes. But you're right, it's still a possibility. The next game could prove me wrong.
      If Hyness really is one of the four heroes---and one of the original Jambastions---it's really sad that Hyness is the only one left...

    • @Mooffgamesgamer
      @Mooffgamesgamer 4 года назад +3

      VestedUTuber actually, it’s officially confirmed that Galacta is a hero of yore considering that his light form represents him being good before things went south.And we all know the sheer power the guy does to bosses.Remember that in Robobot, his laser move can show a Lor starcutter (and that was made by the ancients at one point).And in Kirby super clash, it seems everyone is more focused with the spear attack rather than the same laser move despite it showing a JAMBA HEART.
      So yeah, Galacta knight without a doubt is one of the heroes of yore.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 4 года назад

      @@Mooffgamesgamer
      "actually, it’s officially confirmed that Galacta is a hero of yore considering that his light form represents him being good before things went south"
      Assuming Team Kirby Clash Deluxe is canon. That's still unconfirmed, since it deviates too far from the series lore as-is.

  • @mshehab22
    @mshehab22 4 года назад

    0:00 did anybody hear that Zan boss music at the start?

  • @redonyx9281
    @redonyx9281 4 года назад +1

    Another eggtastic video !

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 4 года назад +1

    Depending on what the theory is and what ones personal idea of the canon is, a lot of threats were sealed or repelled from multiple parts of the people back then. So idk why people think galacta knight and hyness have to have been banished by the same people at the same time.

  • @oimenamesrick
    @oimenamesrick 4 года назад

    So excited for these vids!

  • @rosypher
    @rosypher 4 года назад +2

    Hyness is one of my favorite characters

  • @ddp9941
    @ddp9941 4 года назад +3

    I thought that animation at the beginning of the video looked familiar.

  • @thefunwashere6221
    @thefunwashere6221 4 года назад +1

    Coily rattler is actually a deity(possibly an Ancient?) Based on Triple Deluxe pause screens its know to be worshiped by the people of the sky (ironically) so yea this is the third time I've said this theory so I hope you see this ^_^

  • @potatoefanner2098
    @potatoefanner2098 4 года назад +1

    In Kirby Mass Attack, Dedede releases a puff of smoke that unlocks the next island. Whispy does this too. Is Necrozma treading on Dark Matter’s turf?

    • @novinovi-
      @novinovi- 4 года назад

      I think it’s the fear of thier presence that caused the smoke... but that’s just what I see it as.

    • @potatoefanner2098
      @potatoefanner2098 4 года назад

      Marxs Wish, that’s an interesting thought. I see it as, the bosses trying to protect their... kingdom? Realm? World?

  • @firehat5126
    @firehat5126 3 года назад +4

    Hyness isn't a hero of yore. *He is the one sealed Galacta Knight away*. Let me explain:
    So basically Void reincarnated into Void Termina after having some really negative emotions and the ancients (which included Hyness) sent four heroes of yore after the beast to defeat it. One of these heroes being Galacta Knight. Galacta Knight and the other three heroes of yore managed to seal Void Termina successfully in a prison called the Jamba Heart.
    Then the ancients began to fear Galacta Knight because of his immense power, so they sealed him away. Then the science guys began to fear the ancients as they sealed away Galacta Knight who sealed away Void Termina. So they banished the ancients from their civilization. And the ancients got really upset about this so they started making plans to resurrect the Dark Lord, Void Termina. Much, much later, Hyness manages to revive Void Termina but Kirby ends up defeating Void Termina.
    If Hyness was a hero of yore, he would have known how to properly break Void Termina's seal as he'd have already sealed him away in the past. But he didn't. Also, as he *did* seal Galacta Knight away, he *did* know how to resummon him as he'd already done so in the past.

  • @Lucinderace
    @Lucinderace 2 месяца назад

    My personal guess is that hyness sealed away galacta knight, so that's why he knew how to release galacta knight in guest star, but hyness was sealed after using a simillar method because he was strong enough to seal galacta

  • @ToxicPea
    @ToxicPea 4 года назад +2

    This is a very popular theory that I've seen running around. I definitely object to the idea, but I'll let this video prove me right or wrong when I watch it.
    Finished watching the video, and I definitely agree with all of Meteorz points here. It's more likely that there were 2 ages in the ancient-era. One was by the time Galacta Knight and the other heroes sealed Void away. The second was Galactic Crisis and the splitting of the two ancient factions. Hyness himself being sealed was part of the latter event, not the former.

  • @Yipper64
    @Yipper64 4 года назад +1

    I dont know if this theory has been proposed or not, but what if Galact Knight is Kirby from a different timeline? Mostly going off the fact both are pink, but also now metaknight is definitely the same species as Kirby.

  • @shadowboi8620
    @shadowboi8620 4 года назад +2

    How about Magalor. Magalor is the only other character with ears like hyness. That means Magalor was telling the truth about him being a descendant of the ancients.

    • @dereklucks4549
      @dereklucks4549 3 года назад

      Magolor is probably not a hero of yore or descended from them but I do think he descended from the ancients. He doesn't show a ridiculously outstanding trait technically.

  • @kingdedetree2230
    @kingdedetree2230 4 года назад

    I didn't know KimiOmega did your animations intro. No wonder the art style looked familiar.

  • @nicholasjackson5809
    @nicholasjackson5809 4 года назад

    Hey uh question. So you know how the jamba heart broke and scattered into a bunch of tiny jamba hearts and after collecting them it wasn't enough to put it back together so hyness sacrificed himself and the three mage sisters to complete it. So what happened to the other jamba hearts like did they miss some or something?

  • @stargazerjuniper
    @stargazerjuniper 4 года назад

    I believe that while Hyness himself was not one of the four heroes, one of his ancestors were, and that's why Hyness even _has_ the ancient scrolls. Eventually, Hyness or his ancestors got sealed away for fear of their power, and started trying to break the seal on Void, to take revenge. Later, all of Hyness' ancestors died out (or nothing happened at this point if only Hyness was sealed), and only Hyness himself was left, still trying to free Void. Eventually, he tried to do the spell, but did it incorrectly and the events of Star Allies play out.

  • @moltenhollow2436
    @moltenhollow2436 4 года назад

    I LOVE THE ANIMATION OF KIRB OMG MY HEART STOP

  • @RTDelete
    @RTDelete 3 года назад +2

    Why can’t we get a: ‘Kirby Ancient Heroes’ game?

  • @TalExe666
    @TalExe666 4 года назад

    I have a theory for the next canon or can not video:
    The ancients actually took Galacta Knight's light and dark powers from him before sealing him away, Because Galacta Knight never showed those powers for Meta Knight and while it's unknown if Aeon Hero is the same guy did showed those forms but for Kirbys not for Meta Knight.

  • @ArtimisArcher
    @ArtimisArcher 4 года назад +1

    Fan theory: what if bandanna dee was the first ever waddle dee king dedede loved

  • @roaringthunder115
    @roaringthunder115 4 года назад

    The animations was amazing

  • @marcoasturias8520
    @marcoasturias8520 4 года назад +1

    The missing hearts will create new dark matter

    • @novinovi-
      @novinovi- 4 года назад

      What if dark nebula came to be from one! They have very similar powers...

  • @silber9501
    @silber9501 4 года назад

    What is the music at the end i cant find it lol

  • @novinovi-
    @novinovi- 4 года назад

    I have a theory as to why the dark nebula battle is so easy, most dark matter uses the host for their powers but doesn’t enhance it, Dark nebula does. Maybe it’s weaker in it’s normal form and relies on this ability, it would make more sense. Also interesting to note, the triplestar has 3 elements to fight dark nebula with, and dark nebula uses all 3 of those elements. That really reminds me of miracle matter. Anyway hope you guys agree!

  • @SpiderManNintendoFan
    @SpiderManNintendoFan 4 года назад +2

    Yeah I expected the result. Hyness ain't no hero(Prior to him being reformed that is). I once even convinced someone that he's a scarier villain than Zero

  • @idont1311
    @idont1311 Год назад

    Imagine if [[only human on pop star that can paint]] was one of the ancients and originally owned the brush.

  • @SquishMTR
    @SquishMTR 4 года назад +26

    Probably an easy theory but
    Waddle Dee in Kirby 64 became Bandana Dee

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 4 года назад +8

      I think that’s literally just canon at this point

    • @Mooffgamesgamer
      @Mooffgamesgamer 4 года назад +3

      I don’t think that’s canon, because since Bandana Dee is one of Kirby’s closest friends, explain as to why you would have to fight him in KSSU in Revenge of the king (especially the fact that you just can’t fight a regular waddle Dee in the arena)? That doesn’t make sense unless your telling me that Bandana Dee likes to be with King Dedede more than Kirby?
      And it’s not really confirmed, but I also want to believe that’s the case though.

    • @Mooffgamesgamer
      @Mooffgamesgamer 4 года назад +2

      Competition For LOST But remember, Revenge of the king takes place directly after the first game. So that cannot be Bandana Dee in Kirby 64 since you technically meet him beforehand

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 4 года назад +8

      Mooffgamesgamer/Fourfatsgamer Kirby 64 was made before Bandana Dee had been introduced as a character, so it’s very likely that HAL just had the vision of “Waddle Dee but friend” in Kirby 64, and then realized they should probably distinguish the special Waddle Dee from regular ones. In other words, I think that if Kirby 64 was remade on Switch, they’d give Waddle Dee the bandana.

    • @Mooffgamesgamer
      @Mooffgamesgamer 4 года назад +1

      Edgeperor interesting, but Bandana Dee appeared in the og kss before 64

  • @justinukah7441
    @justinukah7441 4 года назад

    2nd video and our first CanNOT. Wonder what’s the next topic gonna be?🤔

  • @hielum1337
    @hielum1337 4 года назад +1

    Yes

  • @nabbit66
    @nabbit66 4 года назад

    I wonder if any other characters we know so far were hero’s of yore?

  • @Vulnresati
    @Vulnresati 4 года назад

    I cannot wait for more!

  • @badonkadong1625
    @badonkadong1625 4 года назад

    I LOVE YUOR VIDEOSSS

  • @carloscastellanosdarkeyesi6126
    @carloscastellanosdarkeyesi6126 4 года назад

    I have this really long theory about how the Soul forms are possessed by Dark Matter, but I don't think I have enough proof. I will post it here, anyways.
    Firstly, we can see that most bosses with soul forms have had contact with ancient artifacts or Dark Matter itself. Drawcia had the paintbrush (which we previously stated was made by the ancients), Marx absorbed the energy from the Galactic Nova, Magolor wore the Master Crown, Sectonia used the Dimensional Mirror (which contained Dark Meta Knight who was made by Dark Mind, which I hope we can someday prove he is some sort of Dark Matter), Star Dream was an Ancient machine itself, and Void Termina was part of Dark Matter itself.
    Now, every one of them seem to have the same attacks, the paintball attack, the "turn into a ball" attack, the diagonal cutter, the para-matters, etc.
    An important fact is that the description for one of Void Termina's phases says "Hatred, obsession, jealousy, greed. (...)". This ties Dark Matter to these emotions. Guess who could harbor these! Well, the characters I've just mentioned.
    Drawcia was specifically stated in the ending to have hatred against the world for ignoring her for so long, and likely jealousy of other paintings for being better appreciated than her.
    We don't know a lot about Marx, so I can't really say anything about him.
    Magolor seems to be kind of greedy, and before being beaten, he directed this greed towards the Master Crown and the Lor.
    Sectonia was greedy for beauty and obsessed with it, that point was made very clear.
    The theory gets somewhat thin when we get to Star Dream. By the time it activates its Soul OS, it no longer has a soul, ironically. I don't know if a being that had a soul previously can still have emotions. Maybe it's not Star Dream itself, but what little of Haltmann's soul was still in there, who was obsessed with finding his daughter, and as he was forgetting her, he got obsessed with Star Dream.
    And finally, Void Termina. It probably had a combination of all of these, considering the negative energy it collected, and how it's the progenitor of all Dark Matter.
    What happens in the end with their emotions? In many first phases (Magolor, Drawcia, Star Dream) they appear to have a deadpan expression, the same expression as Zero Two had. But the most common trait is that they all devolve into deranged laughter and horrible screeches, as if the emotions they were feeling had fully consumed them and they could only emit the sounds allowed by their stress...
    As you can see this theory not only ties Souls with Dark Matter and Ancient artifacts, it links them together, ties the Dimensional Mirror with the Ancients and basically could shake a big part of what we know as of now. I will correct myself with some things and make it so that this theory can be discussed.

  • @robertlupa8273
    @robertlupa8273 4 года назад

    3:24 Grumpy Kirbo. It kinda reminds me of Shroomish's face.

  • @chaos4654
    @chaos4654 4 года назад

    I mean, it's possible they changed their clothes as a pledge of their new allegiance to Void Termina.

  • @CocoThunder568
    @CocoThunder568 4 года назад +1

    Here's a wild card for your kirby cannon or not.
    Team kirby Clash is just a mini game on computer virus.
    Evidence 1: the way you fight your enemy's is in an RPG like setting like when you first fight him in super star.
    Evidence 2: You can see special text when you level up in kirby clash like "your kindness went up by 4 (not that it matters)" the same text said after you defeat him.
    And before you say how would he know about the jamba sisters and others, computer virus isn't a physical person. He could of seen all of kirby's fights for all we know. Anyway I hope you consider this one to analyze.

  • @Astraphenex
    @Astraphenex Год назад

    2:18 that sounds an awful lot like Dark Matter

  • @edgynickname1056
    @edgynickname1056 4 года назад +1

    It seems more likely that Morpho Knight was a Hero of Yore

  • @romandelrosario
    @romandelrosario 4 года назад

    If you look closley in the force field youal see DNA

  • @sadpikachu5116
    @sadpikachu5116 4 года назад

    Maybe stardream costa galactic prices when it was program from the engine blueprints

  • @Kirbo14
    @Kirbo14 4 года назад

    Me: hmm that animation looks familiar
    Me: Oh look a new Kirby Guardian episode
    Also Me: wait a second

  • @squidsofty8507
    @squidsofty8507 4 года назад +1

    SENPAI NOTICED ME

  • @cozmiccozmogamin8907
    @cozmiccozmogamin8907 3 года назад

    R.i.p that Kirby in the intro :(

  • @mRmAN-jl1jh
    @mRmAN-jl1jh 4 года назад

    Your literally game theory but only kirby. Pretty cool👍

  • @AquaticArtist2011
    @AquaticArtist2011 4 года назад

    Vividira is magulors sister because they both have the same eye and skin color

  • @RogelioALoya
    @RogelioALoya 4 года назад +1

    Maybe the sphere doomers are connected to void

  • @pewdiepiesubbot8672
    @pewdiepiesubbot8672 4 года назад +1

    cool

  • @wut939
    @wut939 4 года назад

    Ok off-topic but have we had any actually canon games besides star allies recently

  • @FoxGalahArtStuff
    @FoxGalahArtStuff 9 месяцев назад

    Here's my theory to make a Canon or Cannot episode on.
    Adeleine's species are the people from the New World.
    Evidence: Not only is she a human and came from another world, but her name also sounds similar to a New World word! The word is "アドゥレシア" and what does it translate into? That's right! It means "Canvas" in the New World language. Don't forget Adeleine loves to paint and she paints on a canvas. Even if she didn't paint on a canvas, it'll still work as canvases are associated with art. I know there are human measurements in the New World but that was a long time ago and the New World people probably evolved to be smaller. Also, if the theory of the Ancients being the New World inhabitants is true, does that mean Adeleine is an Ancient?

  • @Goober353
    @Goober353 4 года назад

    Theory: Dedede/his race are an Ancients? Link to the thread:www.reddit.com/r/Kirby/comments/h8d07w/a_thing_i_noticed/?

  • @ceruledge7934
    @ceruledge7934 4 года назад

    Another great kirby video

  • @spidey5108
    @spidey5108 3 года назад

    We know Galacta to seal Void, then be sealed, and Hyness sealed as well? Simple: Galacta beat Void, but everyone was scared of his power. Hyness sealed him to protect everyone, only to make everyone fearful of _his_ power. So Void was lost to legends, Galacta safekept by a construct of Wishpower (guess who?), and Hyness banished to Galaxy's end (...huh. What a coincidence), where he couldn't interact with any more gods... or so they thought.
    If Hyness made multiple portals into Another Dimension, then why wouldn't Galacta fly out of them? I think it was happenstance while trying to bring back Void.
    I think the forcefield is just a game mechanic so that you don't skip the final world, and they certainly had to look somewhere to find Void's prison. But, the fact Hyness' group reveres Void does suggest that they did not fight him in days of yore.

  • @ethantreadway9478
    @ethantreadway9478 4 года назад

    I agree with the 3:17
    Anyways I need to come up with a fan theroy.

  • @solgaleo3533
    @solgaleo3533 4 года назад +1

    Dark matter swordsman became gooey
    This one is a pretty simple one. A Japanese Kirby encyclopedia by the name of 最新星のカービィ大百科 Saishin Hoshi no Kābyi Ōhyakka ("The Latest Kirby of the Stars Large Encyclopedia") states that Dark Matter targeted Planet Popstar because it grew jealous of Dream Land's lifestyle and suffered from loneliness due to the fact no one wanted to be its friend.
    The information has since been repeated in the January 2019 issue of the Nintendo Dream magazine, implying it was not retconned and is still possibly cannon. Additionally, gooey and dark matter swordsman are the only forms of dark matter that possess free thought. Another possible piece of evidence is that the dark matter swordsman clone uses a sword similar to the rainbow sword despite being weak to the rainbow sword in its debut. This may be because star dream got gooey’s DNA. We know gooey does not have a weakness to positive forces, so the clone of the past gooey may have inherited that resistance. I know there’s not much evidence, but I find this an interesting theory and would love to see it covered.

    • @heatran4109
      @heatran4109 2 года назад

      As much as I like the theory, gooey appears in dream land 2 so it’s sadly not possible

    • @solgaleo3533
      @solgaleo3533 2 года назад

      @@heatran4109 Thanks. Personally, I’m on the fence since I don’t if there are other members of Gooey’s species in the lore, people have said there aren’t but I haven’t been able to find anywhere that says that.

    • @heatran4109
      @heatran4109 2 года назад

      @@solgaleo3533 not sure where anyones getting the multiple gooey thing from, pretty sure there’s only one still

  • @accountoftheultraimaginato4012
    @accountoftheultraimaginato4012 4 года назад

    Perhaps Hyness was a descendant of said hero? I mean, he talks like he has a personal stake when he's on that rant, but all evidence I am aware of says he has no reason to.

  • @kirbyandbandanawaddledee937
    @kirbyandbandanawaddledee937 4 года назад

    Hey meteorz there's a new Kirby game coming out.

  • @badonkadong1625
    @badonkadong1625 4 года назад +5

    PLEASE MAKE MORE WHAT IS KIRBY CANON ITS MY FAVIOURITE IN THE WORLS

    • @Nebbuwu
      @Nebbuwu 4 года назад +1

      According to him, he stated that the canon level in the series is running low, so that's why he's going on to fan theories.
      Maybe in the future he'll continue if there's new lore and stuff. :0

    • @badonkadong1625
      @badonkadong1625 4 года назад

      @@Nebbuwu ;-;

  • @sbyrd1495
    @sbyrd1495 4 года назад

    well it could be canon but I'm not 100% I heard that from RPG Monger and his video talking about all Kirby lore is that Hyness was actually once kind hearted and was one of the reasons why he saved the Mage Sister, and when the ancients banished Hyness and his clan to the edge of the galaxy his once kind heart became with nothing but hatred and obsession which is probably why he treats the Mage Sisters especially Zan poorly plus Francisca in Heroes in Another Dimension did say that his was not the Hyness they once knew, like I said I'm 100% sure it's true but to me it's a theory I just going to go with for now until we get answers in the next Kirby game.

    • @sbyrd1495
      @sbyrd1495 4 года назад

      aww no one answered my comment

  • @dellalahmed9284
    @dellalahmed9284 4 года назад

    I love Kirby ;D

  • @warpath7386
    @warpath7386 4 года назад

    hyness and galcta knight are cousins or brothers becuase they both got sealed.... just a joke

  • @anthonypaglucci2978
    @anthonypaglucci2978 4 года назад

    It should be can because I think he is cuz I think the highest yield void termina because harness was a good at that time then highness turn bad after corrupted with power or something like that and at the end of Heroes in another dimension highness turns good again

    • @BandanaDeeFan28
      @BandanaDeeFan28 3 года назад

      Idk what you're talking about but void was sealed with HEART spears, hyness doesn't use heart spears.

  • @Houndlock643
    @Houndlock643 4 года назад +1

    “Meteorz says that Hyness has to look at scrolls to figure out how to release Void Termina but if he himself was one of the four heroes of yore, then he wouldn’t have forgotten how to release it”
    BUT THATS THE ENTIRE POINT! The four heroes of “yore”, not now!!! He could’ve easily forgotten how to release Void Termina since it had been a long time ago since he sealed him up IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

    • @Houndlock643
      @Houndlock643 4 года назад

      He could be WAY older than Meta Knight, for all we know!

  • @interdimensionlbeing7489
    @interdimensionlbeing7489 4 года назад

    Unnecessary expression

  • @ufokirby
    @ufokirby 4 года назад

    Shug kirby

  • @brendiesel386
    @brendiesel386 4 года назад

    DAMN ITS NOT CANON

  • @epicphantom589
    @epicphantom589 4 года назад

    Star Dream, Nova, Galacta Knight, and Hyness are the 4 heroes... it all makes sense.

    • @heatran4109
      @heatran4109 2 года назад

      It all makes sense
      Expect for the parts it doesn’t

    • @epicphantom589
      @epicphantom589 2 года назад

      I’m pretty sure this was a joke but I don’t even remember
      Edit: Nope this was definitely a joke

  • @iTrapa
    @iTrapa 4 года назад

    I think Hyness is just a descendant of the Ancients, or maybe the heroes?

  • @cosmicspacething3474
    @cosmicspacething3474 4 года назад

    Theory: Meta Knight, and Kirby are different species like Kirby is to Void. He’s more like the planet robobot grunts, who I believe might be descendants of the Ancients.

  • @Regirock_official
    @Regirock_official 4 года назад

    to be fair aeons of aeons would do a toll on hynesses memory, if he cant remember Zan Par's name then who's to say he could remember sealing the thing he calls his "dark lord" aeons ago.

  • @59rlmccormack
    @59rlmccormack 4 года назад

    Not canon huh? Oof!