Bought one $12,570 out the door. I’m an “older guy”.I knew I wasn’t going to buy another dirtbike for a looong time if ever again. I wanted something nice looking and not what everyone has. It’s probably way over my head but I’m not going to be battling anyone on the track just on the bench.
Shhhhiii - it takes me 2 - 3 years just to save for a bike! Just no way that I'd get rid of a bike within 1-3 years now!!! Haha Bought my TM Racing EN300ES and won't be able to purchase a 450 until another 3 years or so, and will probably hold onto them forever...bikes are just too darn expensive for this man's blue collar dollar! 10k+Reg & Title fees + sales tax + ~6k in aftermarkets for tailoring ergos, performance, handling, and power delivery!!!! Basically the price of a new street vehicle, so you definetly want to take your time researching what you want vs. What the manufacturers offer, cause normal errday people can't buy this stuff every year. But I'm not gonna lie, the experience you get makes the price worth every single penny! 💪👌👍🤘
Excellent bike other than the LTX rims, the KX450 comes standard with DLC forks and STX rims. The works edition should come with a GET ECU and Wifi tuning so you can dial in ignition and fueling.
Glad to see Honda actually put something into these Works editions. The '19 WE was basically a stock bike with graphics and a slip on. That being said, im still not paying $13K for a dirt bike.
i want to know if this bike has actual a-kit suspension on it? because apparently stock bike has 49mm forks according to a shootout video i watched and this bike does have the 18mm shock shaft. so if you buy the works addition and you get coatings on your forks and shock and there the bigger size, are the internals the same as the a-kit? is it a-kit? or just a lookalike? has anyone ever took it apart to check and see? does anyone know???
Great point!! I seriously doubt it is A kit level suspension, but hopefully the valving has been changed? Or at least the spread of potential damping adjustment should be broad enough to effect meaningful changes.....
@@robertrishel3685 I did alot of searching and reading to find out it is revalved but the spring on the Shock is stock so I assume valves on forks are redone but springs probably stock it's touched up lookalike suspension still better than stock tho :)
Yes keefer the 3s is a lot better tire. I was disappointed when they changed the 33 front to how it is now. I prefer the 3s with the tall middle knobs top tire.
How does thie suspension on the works edition bike compare to the Factory KYB suspension that any retail customer can purchase? I see the fork leg is coated and year shock shaft but what about other internals?
No billet triple lamps for that price? Also, I just looked at an HRC walk around of Sexton's bike... that also has a Yoshi exhaust, the WE's muffler looks bigger, so I'm guessing the factory guys are use a custom one? Thanks!
I’ve got an ‘07 RM 250. I’ll never get rid of it but would really love to have a 350 or 450 just for the smooth power and ease of everything. I’m getting older.
@@paulbricklebank4050 dude, I will NEVER sell the bike. I wouldn’t trade it for a brand new WE/FE even. I’ve got a couple videos on my channel. Nothing great though 👍🏼
Heard from who? Keefer is a straight up dude and he also help with testing and R&D for these 21 Honda 450s . I highly doubt they would be brave enough to lie about it having ported heads because it quickly would come out that they are only polished
I know for a FACT because I have personally had a 2021 CRF450RWE brand new and bare cylinder head in my hands. The intake and the exhaust ports are smoothed and ported at the transitions points from the steel valve seats to the aluminum. This improves flow tremendously! They are not fully ported throughout the entire intake or exhaust ports and they are in no way polished. The ECU on every 450RWE is remapped to match the ported cylinder head to increase performance. I personally own one and it's absolutely incredible!
@@ttm3311 Well since I can't reply to everyone who comments on my original comment just know this, one I am not saying that Keefer is wrong, I am no dummy and I realize he know's his shit. He is simply repeating what the honda engineers have said about the "ported and polished" head on the crf450rwe since honda introduced its first iteration. I also feel as if I misspoke and will take the blame fully for that, however I got my facts from MXA which I also trust greatly. After looking up there words exactly they said the engines receive a mild milling which is neither porting nor polishing.
@@fox13z400 they never claimed anywhere that it was polished if you heard that someone just included it in their sentence. The milling of the head regardless to how big or small is still porting. Same thing with cars you can street port race port and so on. It’s all porting just different amounts.
Hi there, 2 questions for you guys. Do you feel like this WE has better suspension settings than the R, like better valving, more friendly and smooth to ride ? And i just bought a 450 CRF 2021, i'm 143pds so a bit light compare to other riders, do you think i should change the spring on the suspensions and get rid of the arsh feeling at the top ? Thanks a lot, love your channel !
Why does it matter what anyone else thinks? I mean not to be rude but you can get all this information yourself. Go to race tech use their spring weight calculator they’ll tell you what you need to buy and then you go and buy them. It will also tell you what stock is but if you are really worried about it send your suspension off to someone.
@@Ry_Pox yep thanks, i've already tried that and Racetech say that i need softer springs, i just wanted to know if somebody light as me have found any other solution ;)
6:35 if you are old and want the factory to make you a mellow bike , just stop , you can’t handle a 450 , get a 250 , all the old folks saying 450s are too powerful hahahahaha 40 horse at the rear wheel grow an upper body and get some testosterone
Bought one $12,570 out the door. I’m an “older guy”.I knew I wasn’t going to buy another dirtbike for a looong time if ever again. I wanted something nice looking and not what everyone has. It’s probably way over my head but I’m not going to be battling anyone on the track just on the bench.
I like honda Crf 450
Where did you buy it from? What state?
@@zachhoward8868 Mandan, North Dakota there's a Honda Dealership there.
Keefer > one of the best parts of RacerX are these technical reviews, love 'em! Impressed with the Honda.
This bike it's absolutely amazing
Shhhhiii - it takes me 2 - 3 years just to save for a bike! Just no way that I'd get rid of a bike within 1-3 years now!!! Haha Bought my TM Racing EN300ES and won't be able to purchase a 450 until another 3 years or so, and will probably hold onto them forever...bikes are just too darn expensive for this man's blue collar dollar! 10k+Reg & Title fees + sales tax + ~6k in aftermarkets for tailoring ergos, performance, handling, and power delivery!!!! Basically the price of a new street vehicle, so you definetly want to take your time researching what you want vs. What the manufacturers offer, cause normal errday people can't buy this stuff every year.
But I'm not gonna lie, the experience you get makes the price worth every single penny! 💪👌👍🤘
Your comment wins!... that passion, that, Working man reality!, ✊
Excellent job Kris, kove your evals!
The pipe looks great! The pre production models didn’t look this good.
Keefer is so damn cool. Really great reviews on everything he does.
I have a 19 works edition unreal bike Im jealous of the upgrades the 21s have over mine
Save up and get a 22 or 23 to have both types of engine platforms!!! That would be rad to ride and collect them for the rest of your life! 🤘
Exactly- we’re older and have a money 💰 We want to have fun. 👌
Excellent bike other than the LTX rims, the KX450 comes standard with DLC forks and STX rims. The works edition should come with a GET ECU and Wifi tuning so you can dial in ignition and fueling.
Glad to see Honda actually put something into these Works editions. The '19 WE was basically a stock bike with graphics and a slip on. That being said, im still not paying $13K for a dirt bike.
I need a WE in my life.
Keefer you are definitely a good dude. You made me subscribe.
Love keefer!
Awesome review. Thanks bro.
i want to know if this bike has actual a-kit suspension on it? because apparently stock bike has 49mm forks according to a shootout video i watched and this bike does have the 18mm shock shaft. so if you buy the works addition and you get coatings on your forks and shock and there the bigger size, are the internals the same as the a-kit? is it a-kit? or just a lookalike? has anyone ever took it apart to check and see? does anyone know???
Great point!! I seriously doubt it is A kit level suspension, but hopefully the valving has been changed? Or at least the spread of potential damping adjustment should be broad enough to effect meaningful changes.....
@@robertrishel3685 I did alot of searching and reading to find out it is revalved but the spring on the Shock is stock so I assume valves on forks are redone but springs probably stock it's touched up lookalike suspension still better than stock tho :)
damn thats a badass bike.. "babe i promise this is the last one, I promise!"
Brilliant honest and entertaining
Yes keefer the 3s is a lot better tire. I was disappointed when they changed the 33 front to how it is now. I prefer the 3s with the tall middle knobs top tire.
What sort of horsepower is this thing putting out compared to the top factory worx bikes?
If Keefer says it’s good, it’s good. #FAHQfamily. Worth every penny
“It screams race ready”
All of the KTM employees: 🤔🤔🤔
so cool
Why dont you ever test 2 strokes ?
How does thie suspension on the works edition bike compare to the Factory KYB suspension that any retail customer can purchase? I see the fork leg is coated and year shock shaft but what about other internals?
No billet triple lamps for that price? Also, I just looked at an HRC walk around of Sexton's bike... that also has a Yoshi exhaust, the WE's muffler looks bigger, so I'm guessing the factory guys are use a custom one? Thanks!
Is it possible to have titanium alloy rims and forks for weight saving?
Wish I could race still....
Do you recommend changing springs on this bike for 200 plus pound riders?
My buddy’s manager has one. He is about 230 and the stock stuff was too soft. He recommends factory connection or race tech.
@@alejandrodill1214 thanks man. I will be sending it to factory connection as soon as my bike comes in.
@@bgzz5146 your welcome! And definitely do the ecu. His bike had that problem and it was fixed with the re-flash.
@@alejandrodill1214 will do that for sure. Thanks for the info.
Yes even for keefer it was soft
Is that tapered swinging arm standard? Looks like the two stroke works 500 job from back in the day .
Honda rules
I'd rather have the Husky FE, but I'd rather just have a new 2 stroke over any of em.
I miss my 450 and the grunt of it! I got rid of it for a 2 stroke. Love it but still missing my honda 450 especially for the soft sand etc
@@alexandrakingi8502 I sold my KTM 350 for a YZ250 and don't regret a thing
I’ve got an ‘07 RM 250. I’ll never get rid of it but would really love to have a 350 or 450 just for the smooth power and ease of everything. I’m getting older.
@@jcobra09 that RM is exactly what I’m after fella!....
@@paulbricklebank4050 dude, I will NEVER sell the bike. I wouldn’t trade it for a brand new WE/FE even. I’ve got a couple videos on my channel. Nothing great though 👍🏼
🔥🤘👍💪
I've heard the heads are not ported, only polished.
Nobody polishes heads
Heard from who? Keefer is a straight up dude and he also help with testing and R&D for these 21 Honda 450s . I highly doubt they would be brave enough to lie about it having ported heads because it quickly would come out that they are only polished
I know for a FACT because I have personally had a 2021 CRF450RWE brand new and bare cylinder head in my hands. The intake and the exhaust ports are smoothed and ported at the transitions points from the steel valve seats to the aluminum. This improves flow tremendously! They are not fully ported throughout the entire intake or exhaust ports and they are in no way polished. The ECU on every 450RWE is remapped to match the ported cylinder head to increase performance. I personally own one and it's absolutely incredible!
@@ttm3311 Well since I can't reply to everyone who comments on my original comment just know this, one I am not saying that Keefer is wrong, I am no dummy and I realize he know's his shit. He is simply repeating what the honda engineers have said about the "ported and polished" head on the crf450rwe since honda introduced its first iteration. I also feel as if I misspoke and will take the blame fully for that, however I got my facts from MXA which I also trust greatly. After looking up there words exactly they said the engines receive a mild milling which is neither porting nor polishing.
@@fox13z400 they never claimed anywhere that it was polished if you heard that someone just included it in their sentence. The milling of the head regardless to how big or small is still porting. Same thing with cars you can street port race port and so on. It’s all porting just different amounts.
Does this bike make sense for trail riding?
Should've had a powder coated frame for this price imo...
And as soon as a little paint comes off it would look like shit .
Hi there, 2 questions for you guys. Do you feel like this WE has better suspension settings than the R, like better valving, more friendly and smooth to ride ?
And i just bought a 450 CRF 2021, i'm 143pds so a bit light compare to other riders, do you think i should change the spring on the suspensions and get rid of the arsh feeling at the top ?
Thanks a lot, love your channel !
Why does it matter what anyone else thinks? I mean not to be rude but you can get all this information yourself. Go to race tech use their spring weight calculator they’ll tell you what you need to buy and then you go and buy them. It will also tell you what stock is but if you are really worried about it send your suspension off to someone.
@@Ry_Pox yep thanks, i've already tried that and Racetech say that i need softer springs, i just wanted to know if somebody light as me have found any other solution ;)
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Husqy this ktm that. I’m dumping money into my 99 cr and not looking back.
I really want to have that motorbike, but I can't afford it, please give me sir😔
6:35 if you are old and want the factory to make you a mellow bike , just stop , you can’t handle a 450 , get a 250 , all the old folks saying 450s are too powerful hahahahaha 40 horse at the rear wheel grow an upper body and get some testosterone
Only $39,995.99
Kind of embarrassing it needs to be flashed right out of the factory lol
what is embarrassing with that? if you fail with something, fix it and be open about it, don't push it under a chair and pretend it didn't happened.
They took care of it already. Fast. Great response from Honda.
Black clamps , nice cast marks , next time grind them off what a waste
I still think my 19 works edition looks better
Agreed. Love the look of my ‘20 compared to the 21
Kris great info test but too much bum info man, I am scared for life like your bum! Ha! Haaa!
Ugliest Honda in a long time. 2021 450 looks lame.
Lol
No comparison at all. Husky is better in every way.
Quality analysis.
@@dr187mx 🤣🤣
Ummm, gonna have to disagree