Devialet Phantom Reactor 600 pair sounds really good. I have a very limited space for speakers in my room and I got a pair for my pc running trough a Topping D50S dac (32 bit 768KHz signal) and AudioQuest golden gate cables for a wired connection and they sound so amazing to me. Some of my friends was blown away when they heard how realistic and powerful these speakers sounds for it's size. It definitely made a huge hole in my wallet for a few months but it's the best I can get with the limited space I have available to me and they sound so good that I will keep them for a very long time so the investment will last a long time for me.
Having the graphs is great. Thanks a lot. This is way better than many of the reviews I've seen where people will play music and record audio with their iPhones or Webcams and try to show you the sound quality difference on a youtube video while you are using your laptop or desktop computer with a far away cheaper set of speakers (or headphones).
Great review overall, except one thing!!!?!?!!! The phantom is not a push-pull setup. both go out or both go in. This is what is so special about this speaker. It can do this without destroying itself!! This leads to cancelation at the speaker, so it barely even vibrates!! It also leads to internal pressures over 1000lbs and giant simulated volumes inside the speaker, hence the very crazy bass. Very impressive accomplishment!
u can actually check out the specs.....Devialet has a larger sound stage as compared to Ls50 or LS50 Meta and Devialet's freq response is much lower ....thus u r the type going for a balanced and mid -high music solo listener....go for LS 50 but if u are the type going for a overall balanced to a bassy group listeners....go for a pair of devialet reactors....
Agreed with Bok wei’s evaluation. I usually won’t judge a speaker just through the specs sheet alone but in this case, the ls50w definitely is favoured for more balanced listening and better vocals and accuracy. The phantom reactors are really great for a specific music genre. Think loud electronic or rock concerts.
How about Sonos ARC and Sub vs two Reactor 600 ? Do they blow away the Sonos? I briefly had Arc, flagship Sub and two Era 300s. Returned them and got a class D amp, KEF q150s and SVS Micro 3000 Sub ... The kef system blows away the Sonos for stereo music.
Hey Peter, very nice review. Question for you, between the phantom reactor and sonos 5, which has better sound quality? Money aside... which do you think sounds more clear? And is the difference really worth the extra $1000? I'm looking to stream Master quality hi res audio from tidal. Thank you!!
If you want to stream MQA from Tidal, the Sonos won't cut it. The Phantom yes you can do hi-res. The difference is another matter, I am just commenting from the streaming capability point of view. If you ask me, price aside, I'd get the Phantom Reactor. The bass is godly. But then you asked about whether it is worth the extra $1K, no it is not.
I'm wondering if the Powerline issues with the Phantom Reactor might be due to a surge protector? Usually they have to be taken out of the circuit for data to work with household wiring. btw, love the review.
Could be. But while I have removed most of the dedicated surge protectors, I might have some of the higher quality multi socket outputs that have some degree of surge protection inside.
I am wondering what the difference would be with the Sonos Five + Sub compared with the Devialet Reactor. I think you did that test already? I am going to look for the video right away. Love your channel. Keep up the good work and thank you 🙏
Thanks for the support! I did a test with the Sonos five with sub. The sub does little more for the fives. The fives are already quite amazing on their own.
Hello Peter! Your videos are amazing! I kindly ask your advise…. I have a full Sonos system (x2 5’s x2 1’s x1 playbar x2 moves x2 Symfonisk x1 booster x1 amp). Few days ago they offered me two Devialet phantom II 98db and I am wondering before unpacking them if I should turn them back or connect to the existing Sonos system. If I connect them am I gonna messing up the quality of sound? Are they compatible with Sonos? Are they louder than Sonos 5s? Shall I use the credit and buy something else? Thank you for your time
If you have more money than sense and live in a detached property get a pair of Phantom Golds. Software sucks. But you will always be impressed by the 14Hz bass and floor standing speaker level performance in an egg! Always get stereo over mono and if going for multi room or surround sound don't wait for Devialet to come to the the table.
I have been wondering, should I get a Sonos Sub or a Sonos Beam? I have a stereo pair of Sonos One's and I want to connect them to my TV. To do so currently, I use AirPlay 2 to broadcast a stereo signal to my Sonos pair from my Apple TV. This works for movie, youtube and obviously music. However, it does not work for gaming and there is a strange latency and problems with consistency. If I could, I would buy the entire Sonos line but that's not in my budget. I have to choose between great bass or a great surround sound system that lacks in bass. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Galasity
I would like to give my opinion that latency will kill the enjoyment. I would like you to seriously consider the Beam as the latency wouldn’t be an issue and connection is easy. Not dependent on the Apple TV anymore.
Hi Peter, great vid.... in your opinion if you could afford a pair of reactors (or if you have more money than sense...lol) would the extra outlay be worth it over a pair of 5s, based purely on sound quality ?
I love your video. Well done. Its objective but also reasonable. I really like how you put the results up front. I've been wanting a Devialet for a while but cant justify spending thousands for a couple. I would love to know the difference between two reactors 900 vs two gold phantoms.
Thanks for the compliment! The difference between the reactor 900 and Phantom Gold is VAST. Huge difference. If money is not so much of a concern and you have the space for them, the Gold will definitely perform much better.
Very interesting, thanks for the info. Looks like a significant dip in the response of the Reactors around 160Hz & 500Hz. I wonder how much that comes through in the impression of the sound they make?
@@PeterPee you prefer ONE single Sonos 5 instead or TWO HomePod in pair configuration? I’m asking because that’s about the same amount of money to spend. Thanks!
Very good question but I do prefer one sonos five. The quality of the sound is great. And bear in mind that the Sonos Five is capable of stereo with just one speaker.
Thank you for the Comparison!! I love your videos. Thanks a lot for your passion and time doing them. I have 2 Sonos One Gen 2 (240€ As well as new on eBay), 1 move (350€ new) and 1 sub Gen 2 (450€ as well as new on EBay) And today I have heart a pair of Cabasse The pearl (3000 € each). Well I did heard a lot of more power on the high and middle range from the Cabasse The pearl but the Bass was not very different. The sub is a very incredible Bass. Could you make a comparison between Sonos and Cabasse? Greetings!
Thanks for another timely video review! I was attracted to the Devialet Reactors' design and amazing sound performance. I was contemplating to get a pair of Reactors for my open dinning and kitchen layout (about 348sqft) but having to be independent from the Sonos system in my living, I can't play the same music simultaneously together makes me rethink. I do not have space for a pair of Fives but only one. Would it be insufficient to cover this area?
Can. The Sonos Five can cover the space. Quite a big space but at least you can easily add another in the future if you need to. And yes, the Reactors... they kept saying Airplay 2 coming but... never come..
I have a stereo pair of HomePods and thinking of upgrading to stereo reactors but I usually listen at 25-30 percent volume. Will I still get the sweet spot sound from reactors at that volume?
hey Peter! great reviews! I'm thinking if I should be getting a pair reactor for my 3 room BTO. Will be placing it in the living room. my common room's wall is also hacked so its relatively bigger living area. do you think it will be good? or is there any other alternatives you can recommend other than the sonos.
Hi Peter, shout out from SG! Great Videos! Just want some advice on my purchase for a pair of speakers for my master room. I do play my music loud at times and from diff genre. Am considering a pair of Sonos five or Kef LSX. I tried the KEF LS50W2 and B&W Formation Duo, those were really sweet, but am looking for something close to them but at a better price range. Which would be better off for me? Pair of Sonos or LSX? My concern is the LSX may sound a bit “thin”. Is the Sonos fuller, more natural and depth? Which would sound better? Thank you Sir!
If you are not going to pair the LSX with the sub, then definitely go for the pair of Sonos Fives. They are FAR richer and goes much deeper than the LSX.
Have you tried connecting the Devialet with Sonos AMP and playing music thru the Sonos App? I have multiple Sonos speakers at home, but keen on adding some superpower like the Devialet to my home.
When you stream airplay 2 (now that you finally can) to both are they in full sync with each other? My HomePods are slightly out of sync with the phantoms, which is only noticeable with talking and less so with music.
Hi Peter, I know it's kind of late for comment but I like your opinion on the reactor now called phantom 2. It's freq response goes all the way to 18hz which is subwoofer territory. Would it be possible to use it as a subwoofer with a soundbar? You can use a rca to 3.5mm cable or even 3.5 to 3.5 like in the bose 900. So the phantom now has 2 functions. A sub and a Bluetooth speaker. Can that work? Thanks!
Hi Peter, I have the Sonos Arc, the Gen 3 sub and 2 Sonos 1s, I find the base quite disappointing specially when I listen to music. I did the software upgrade and didn’t make much of a difference. Is there any other options available to increase the base.
At the end of the day, a soundbar has limited physical abilities to produce base. Although what I am hearing now, is that the playbar sounds better. I am really beginning to suspect there could be different versions. Check out my recording for the arc. Does it sound like what you’re experiencing?
Thanks for the great comparison, very concise and informative. I have a question, I have a single Play Five and thinking about getting a second for stereo pair. Is the difference that noticeable?
Oh. My. God. Yes. That’s what you’re going to be saying when you do get the second. and the only thing you’d be doing to kicking yourself for not doing it earlier. The difference is vast.
If the reactors are $300 each, I’d get a pair of them. They are great little Soeakers. But bear in mind you will only get stereo. For music, they will perform incredibly well. If you are only into movies, then get the arc although I don’t think it is as great a value as the reactors at $300 each.
Thanks a ton, Peter! I can only get 1 reactor phantom for $300 but that's fine. Based on your video and reco, I'll be going for the one phantom! The novelty's there too. Not everyday do people see a phantom reactor. haha!
Hi @peter! Just wanted to update you. I got my first phantom reactor for $300 and I found another deal for $500! Picking it up in 2 weeks and can’t wait
thanks for another amazing video! I have a question concerning the Sonos Five. Will the sound output on a pair be delayed from the tv if its connected trough a sonos beam connected with hdmi arc? Or is the delay only trough 3,5mm connection?
What about sound quality: treble, highs, medium? Loudness is a thing but sound quality is another. I understand this can be quite subjective but what’s your preference? Thanks
The devialet reactor has an impecable way of producing corect sound it s a pure joy , i have a pair of reactor 2 , the 600w versIon and i m in love with them. The sound is clear , very fast , and dynamic . I use the for a space that is 33 mp.
Peter upgrade to devialet phantom 1 specifically the 108db version. You Might even get away with buying just one. Check out the clarity and bass of them! I own one myself!
Hi 🙋🏽♂️ mate love your work. Can you do a compare with Sonos 1 n 5 vs the KEF LSX pair. I’m looking at tidal for use. I’m a Sonos fan and have decked out the home 🏡 with SONOS but keen to hear your view on the LSX
From my own preference, Sonos 1 < KEF LSX < Sonos 5. Assuming you’re all talking about stereo configuration. The lsx bass is a little anaemic to me and lacks depth. Punch yes but no depth and not layered enough for me.
Seriously I'm telling the transfusion that companies are just trying to rip people off they literally have convinced you only need one speaker which is false you have to have a pair because it's that much better even if it's $100 Bluetooth speaker if you can pair them in a stereo pair get an extra one
A very specific use case which I can possibly do in the future but I’d say the priority is Low. To share with you, the sonic ability changes little but the output volume is greatly improved. And I mean greatly.
Hey! Big fan of Your videos! I think i would buy two fives and sub for that price haha i think it would be way better than reactors, what do You think ?
Thank you for the support! I would say yes, that'll be what I'd do for the same price. But really, you don't need the sub with the fives unless you are really really a bass head. The bass coming out of the Fives is really powerful already.
Now then I note my sweet spot is about 40% -50% volume too... But the bass diff significantly because my work place is at a corner, the bass amplified significantly
@@PeterPee I did the Trueplay, the bass was pulled down. I also notice that my old TV sub did output some bass passively because I put my Five on top of it. I turn off the loudness, it sound very natural and clean.. due to space constraints, I would have to invest some furniture before I could get another Five for pairing. Currently, it works as powerful background music for WFH.
Kejul Patel there’s a video from Peter, that add sub to fives actually do more bad then good. The crossover dip happen at mid bass. Just a pair of Fives would be suffice
I can't speak to the Reactors .. I've got a pair of gold phantoms and and loads of Sonos gear. Devialet really screwed their software recently but just recently it's all come good. I use Roon to drive my devices if I'm listing to my local library or a high def stream. Recently Sonos have started supporting FLAC for your local library but you are not going to get hi-def streaming. I think you are really misleading you viewers if you don't cover the signal processing side ... you're only telling part of the story. I'll also take a poke at the Sonos apps .. they aren't that good. It can only index a tiny local library and it is effectively a lowest common denominator feature set to the various streaming services. Devialet focus on the high end of the market, Sonos on the mid to low end. ... obviously you're going to pay more for the reactors even though they're the bottom of the Devialet range. If the foundation to your entire review is some arbitrary percentage volume setting and not audio quality I can't see how you justify your frankly insulting conclusion!
You explanation about the Devialet drivers is not true. If one driver is going in the other isn't going out, it's the opposite, either both go in or both go out.
The devialet only sounds good at high volume. At low volume it sounds bad. No bass and tiny sound. But the sound is a bit flat… superb bass but overall flat sound.
@@PeterPee oh that sad to hear there is slight lag, then I think only apple HomePod able to airplay from Apple TV without delay. Thank you for the answer
I thought it was 5.5! That bass in every speaker. They don't tell you what is included. 5 Reactors (600W 5000USD, 900W 6500USB) that leaves 4000USB for the connecting and controlling bits. I assume some USB/Multi socket to five Toslink outputs for 5 speakers but then where is the 5+1 sub woofer output being sent? Web site says there is a way of using Phantom Gold but Devialet support say Golds are stereo only. Three Golds and two Reactors (or basic Phantoms) would make for a more sensible cost solution. Surround carries a lot in centre and subwoofer and stereo in the left and right channels. The rear are usually sonic placement. Costs are into where Meridian basically start off at 2000GBP for a single M6.
@@Cornwall1888 Does that require Analogue to digital convertor for front, rear and centre/subwoofer? Lots of digital input choices and lots of analogue outputs but not digital.
I surprise my five music don’t penetrate the walls... closing the door is good enough.. May be my house design is quite good.. I don’t have shared walls to any neighbors. My ceiling equipped with false ceiling.... not sure unit above me and below feels though... but ever since I bought my give I can hear some bass from others.... may be try to protest? Haha
6430 Follower 👀 And the Rest of the World stay stupid 🙈 Sorry for that, but you are Awesome and all Users from Sonos Things have to see you nice Videos ☝️ Thank You for that 🙏
Thank you jack. My intention is to just share what I know. There are others who don’t have to know. But they still enjoy whatever they have. It’s also a good place to be. For me, I am a small channel. It’s a couple of months old. And I have lots and lots to learn. I am not even the most confident in front of the camera but I’ll try to improve over time. Thank you for your support!
appreciate the summary! what a lovely gesture
Thanks for the information Peter, always more than reliable...
Devialet Phantom Reactor 600 pair sounds really good.
I have a very limited space for speakers in my room and I got a pair for my pc running trough a Topping D50S dac (32 bit 768KHz signal) and AudioQuest golden gate cables for a wired connection and they sound so amazing to me.
Some of my friends was blown away when they heard how realistic and powerful these speakers sounds for it's size.
It definitely made a huge hole in my wallet for a few months but it's the best I can get with the limited space I have available to me and they sound so good that I will keep them for a very long time so the investment will last a long time for me.
I agree with you. The sound for the space that it occupies, it's mindblowing.
hahaha,. Love your video Peter! "if you have more money than sense, buy a Devialet Reactor"! nice summary!
Glad you liked it!
"Always get a pair"
~ words of wisdom from Mr. Pee
I loved it. Explaination, comparison, analysis was great, I started hearing and decided to go all the way of the video.
I respect how u jus get to the point 💯
Thank you! I try to!
Thank you so much. I got the FIVE today, and it is a blast... love it. Sounds, software, wireless, , all what I needed, your videos helped a lot!!!
Glad I could help! I love the Fives to bits and glad you feel the same too!
What a thorough, genuinely helpful video. Thank you so much!!
Glad it was helpful!
Having the graphs is great. Thanks a lot. This is way better than many of the reviews I've seen where people will play music and record audio with their iPhones or Webcams and try to show you the sound quality difference on a youtube video while you are using your laptop or desktop computer with a far away cheaper set of speakers (or headphones).
Thank you for your support!
just play them
Thanks for doing this extensive comparison for us!
Great review. Bought a Matte Black Phantom reactor months ago and i love it.
Welcome to the club! It's truly awesome that.
love your videos. very concise reviews
Thank you!
You are great. I enjoyed your review and learned a lot. I was dying laughing when you talked about which one to buy. Thank you! :-)
Hey michael, thanks for dropping by and That lovely comment!
Great video. Nice mix of opinion and facts. Thank you.
Thanks Peter for this video.
Great review overall, except one thing!!!?!?!!! The phantom is not a push-pull setup. both go out or both go in. This is what is so special about this speaker. It can do this without destroying itself!! This leads to cancelation at the speaker, so it barely even vibrates!! It also leads to internal pressures over 1000lbs and giant simulated volumes inside the speaker, hence the very crazy bass. Very impressive accomplishment!
Can you compare the Devialet to the LS50 wireless?
u can actually check out the specs.....Devialet has a larger sound stage as compared to Ls50 or LS50 Meta and Devialet's freq response is much lower ....thus u r the type going for a balanced and mid -high music solo listener....go for LS 50 but if u are the type going for a overall balanced to a bassy group listeners....go for a pair of devialet reactors....
Agreed with Bok wei’s evaluation. I usually won’t judge a speaker just through the specs sheet alone but in this case, the ls50w definitely is favoured for more balanced listening and better vocals and accuracy.
The phantom reactors are really great for a specific music genre. Think loud electronic or rock concerts.
@@PeterPee Agreed. If you need outright sound quality and the bass the Phantom Gold's are the way to go
Very good review! I found that compared to the Ones the Fives also need to be turned up more to get something out of them
Amazing video bro! Very logical explanations.
Thanks!
thnks for the information Peter pea
You're most welcome!
Nice comparison! Helped me make my decision, get both Sonos and Devialet for different purposes 😂
Same thoughts. Hahaha. I am loving both of them.
How about Sonos ARC and Sub vs two Reactor 600 ? Do they blow away the Sonos? I briefly had Arc, flagship Sub and two Era 300s. Returned them and got a class D amp, KEF q150s and SVS Micro 3000 Sub ... The kef system blows away the Sonos for stereo music.
Love your videos!! Thank you very much Peter
Glad you like them!
Hey Peter, very nice review. Question for you, between the phantom reactor and sonos 5, which has better sound quality? Money aside... which do you think sounds more clear? And is the difference really worth the extra $1000? I'm looking to stream Master quality hi res audio from tidal. Thank you!!
If you want to stream MQA from Tidal, the Sonos won't cut it. The Phantom yes you can do hi-res. The difference is another matter, I am just commenting from the streaming capability point of view.
If you ask me, price aside, I'd get the Phantom Reactor. The bass is godly. But then you asked about whether it is worth the extra $1K, no it is not.
I'm wondering if the Powerline issues with the Phantom Reactor might be due to a surge protector? Usually they have to be taken out of the circuit for data to work with household wiring. btw, love the review.
Could be. But while I have removed most of the dedicated surge protectors, I might have some of the higher quality multi socket outputs that have some degree of surge protection inside.
thank you for the video. great work!
Actually the devialet phantoms are not configured in a push pull config but instead a back to back so it cancels out vibrations.
Yes you are right. I was corrected on that. It has to be that way to cancel out the vibrations.
Hey Peter, I’ve been binging on your videos, great stuff. With this one, would you get 2 Phantoms or 2 Fives and the Sonos sub?
I am wondering what the difference would be with the Sonos Five + Sub compared with the Devialet Reactor. I think you did that test already? I am going to look for the video right away. Love your channel. Keep up the good work and thank you 🙏
Thanks for the support! I did a test with the Sonos five with sub. The sub does little more for the fives. The fives are already quite amazing on their own.
Thanks for a fair practical review!
you are sharp! and to the point
very good review , thank you
Thanks for the compliment!
Hello Peter! Your videos are amazing! I kindly ask your advise…. I have a full Sonos system (x2 5’s x2 1’s x1 playbar x2 moves x2 Symfonisk x1 booster x1 amp). Few days ago they offered me two Devialet phantom II 98db and I am wondering before unpacking them if I should turn them back or connect to the existing Sonos system.
If I connect them am I gonna messing up the quality of sound? Are they compatible with Sonos? Are they louder than Sonos 5s? Shall I use the credit and buy something else?
Thank you for your time
If you have more money than sense and live in a detached property get a pair of Phantom Golds. Software sucks. But you will always be impressed by the 14Hz bass and floor standing speaker level performance in an egg!
Always get stereo over mono and if going for multi room or surround sound don't wait for Devialet to come to the the table.
100% in agreement.
@@PeterPee bonjour pouvez-vous me dire la meilleure entre sonos five et Devialet reactor 900 ????
I have been wondering, should I get a Sonos Sub or a Sonos Beam? I have a stereo pair of Sonos One's and I want to connect them to my TV. To do so currently, I use AirPlay 2 to broadcast a stereo signal to my Sonos pair from my Apple TV. This works for movie, youtube and obviously music. However, it does not work for gaming and there is a strange latency and problems with consistency. If I could, I would buy the entire Sonos line but that's not in my budget. I have to choose between great bass or a great surround sound system that lacks in bass. What are your thoughts?
Thanks,
Galasity
I would like to give my opinion that latency will kill the enjoyment. I would like you to seriously consider the Beam as the latency wouldn’t be an issue and connection is easy. Not dependent on the Apple TV anymore.
Hi Peter, great vid.... in your opinion if you could afford a pair of reactors (or if you have more money than sense...lol) would the extra outlay be worth it over a pair of 5s, based purely on sound quality ?
I love your video. Well done. Its objective but also reasonable. I really like how you put the results up front. I've been wanting a Devialet for a while but cant justify spending thousands for a couple. I would love to know the difference between two reactors 900 vs two gold phantoms.
Thanks for the compliment! The difference between the reactor 900 and Phantom Gold is VAST. Huge difference. If money is not so much of a concern and you have the space for them, the Gold will definitely perform much better.
Very interesting, thanks for the info. Looks like a significant dip in the response of the Reactors around 160Hz & 500Hz. I wonder how much that comes through in the impression of the sound they make?
I like the vocals coming out of the Fives better and I suspect that's what I am hearing as the lower outputs at those frequencies.
Nice video!! Thanks!
Quick question: what do you think about one Sonos 5 vs 2 Apple HomePod (US$400) ??
Thanks!
No fight. I would go for the Sonos 5 anytime. I sold my Homepods.
@@PeterPee you prefer ONE single Sonos 5 instead or TWO HomePod in pair configuration?
I’m asking because that’s about the same amount of money to spend.
Thanks!
Very good question but I do prefer one sonos five. The quality of the sound is great. And bear in mind that the Sonos Five is capable of stereo with just one speaker.
Is a single Devialet Phantom Reactor 600 more versatile?
1. As a soundbar+subwoofer replacement to connect to TV
2. As a portable music speaker
Portable music speaker. I feel TV needs stereo more than music!
Love the review.
Thank you! Enjoy the video!
Thank you for the Comparison!!
I love your videos. Thanks a lot for your passion and time doing them.
I have 2 Sonos One Gen 2 (240€ As well as new on eBay), 1 move (350€ new) and 1 sub Gen 2 (450€ as well as new on EBay) And today I have heart a pair of Cabasse The pearl (3000 € each).
Well I did heard a lot of more power on the high and middle range from the Cabasse The pearl but the Bass was not very different. The sub is a very incredible Bass. Could you make a comparison between Sonos and Cabasse?
Greetings!
Hey! Wow... The Cabasse is something I really can't afford at the moment...
Thank you for your video, what do you think about “phantom reactor and beosound 1 from b&o”
I have not really tried the beosound short of a short listen at the showroom. Not my cup of tea. :)
Thanks for another timely video review! I was attracted to the Devialet Reactors' design and amazing sound performance. I was contemplating to get a pair of Reactors for my open dinning and kitchen layout (about 348sqft) but having to be independent from the Sonos system in my living, I can't play the same music simultaneously together makes me rethink. I do not have space for a pair of Fives but only one. Would it be insufficient to cover this area?
Can. The Sonos Five can cover the space. Quite a big space but at least you can easily add another in the future if you need to.
And yes, the Reactors... they kept saying Airplay 2 coming but... never come..
@@PeterPee , thanks for your feedback!
Hi Peter
Another great video
Could you make comparison between Sonos 5 and Bluesound?
Great suggestion! I have been meaning to do that!
Hello Peter, Please If you can review the FuRy Arcana adapter for Sonos ( ARC - EARC ). Please Thank you for your video
I have a stereo pair of HomePods and thinking of upgrading to stereo reactors but I usually listen at 25-30 percent volume. Will I still get the sweet spot sound from reactors at that volume?
hey Peter! great reviews! I'm thinking if I should be getting a pair reactor for my 3 room BTO. Will be placing it in the living room. my common room's wall is also hacked so its relatively bigger living area. do you think it will be good? or is there any other alternatives you can recommend other than the sonos.
If you need to cover a bit more space, the better choice is a pair of Sonos Fives.
Go with the Kef LS50w ii. Go audition them, the devialets and sonos cant compare at all they literally sound shit next to the kefs
Hi Peter, shout out from SG! Great Videos!
Just want some advice on my purchase for a pair of speakers for my master room. I do play my music loud at times and from diff genre.
Am considering a pair of Sonos five or Kef LSX.
I tried the KEF LS50W2 and B&W Formation Duo, those were really sweet, but am looking for something close to them but at a better price range.
Which would be better off for me? Pair of Sonos or LSX? My concern is the LSX may sound a bit “thin”. Is the Sonos fuller, more natural and depth? Which would sound better?
Thank you Sir!
If you are not going to pair the LSX with the sub, then definitely go for the pair of Sonos Fives. They are FAR richer and goes much deeper than the LSX.
Have you tried connecting the Devialet with Sonos AMP and playing music thru the Sonos App? I have multiple Sonos speakers at home, but keen on adding some superpower like the Devialet to my home.
When you stream airplay 2 (now that you finally can) to both are they in full sync with each other? My HomePods are slightly out of sync with the phantoms, which is only noticeable with talking and less so with music.
Hi Peter, I know it's kind of late for comment but I like your opinion on the reactor now called phantom 2. It's freq response goes all the way to 18hz which is subwoofer territory. Would it be possible to use it as a subwoofer with a soundbar? You can use a rca to 3.5mm cable or even 3.5 to 3.5 like in the bose 900. So the phantom now has 2 functions. A sub and a Bluetooth speaker. Can that work? Thanks!
Thanks for the valuable information. Would you recommend stereo 900 reactors or a mono gold phantom? Using in living room with 22’ high ceilings.
I’d say a stereo pair. A single gold won’t compare to a stereo effect to fill up the whole room.
Hi Peter, I have the Sonos Arc, the Gen 3 sub and 2 Sonos 1s, I find the base quite disappointing specially when I listen to music. I did the software upgrade and didn’t make much of a difference. Is there any other options available to increase the base.
I have the same exact setup and really dislike the way the Arc sounds. I actually moved it to my bedroom and went back to the Playbar instead.
At the end of the day, a soundbar has limited physical abilities to produce base.
Although what I am hearing now, is that the playbar sounds better. I am really beginning to suspect there could be different versions. Check out my recording for the arc. Does it sound like what you’re experiencing?
Thanks for the great comparison, very concise and informative. I have a question, I have a single Play Five and thinking about getting a second for stereo pair. Is the difference that noticeable?
Oh. My. God. Yes. That’s what you’re going to be saying when you do get the second. and the only thing you’d be doing to kicking yourself for not doing it earlier. The difference is vast.
@@PeterPee Awesome! Thanks for your quick reply. Keep up the informative and entertaining work!!
Hello! Would you choose a Phantom reactor 600 for $300 USD or Sonos Arc for $600?
I have the chance to buy either at those great prices
If the reactors are $300 each, I’d get a pair of them. They are great little Soeakers. But bear in mind you will only get stereo. For music, they will perform incredibly well.
If you are only into movies, then get the arc although I don’t think it is as great a value as the reactors at $300 each.
Thanks a ton, Peter! I can only get 1 reactor phantom for $300 but that's fine. Based on your video and reco, I'll be going for the one phantom! The novelty's there too. Not everyday do people see a phantom reactor. haha!
Hi @peter! Just wanted to update you. I got my first phantom reactor for $300 and I found another deal for $500! Picking it up in 2 weeks and can’t wait
Hello Peter!
Two fives in stereo or two ones gen2 with sub for a livingroom 25m2 just for music , what sound better?
Thanks
thanks for another amazing video! I have a question concerning the Sonos Five. Will the sound output on a pair be delayed from the tv if its connected trough a sonos beam connected with hdmi arc? Or is the delay only trough 3,5mm connection?
Delay is only through the 3.5mm.
@@PeterPee thanks!
I am itrested in sonos move and naim mu-so 2. How you compare all those 4 products?
What about sound quality: treble, highs, medium? Loudness is a thing but sound quality is another. I understand this can be quite subjective but what’s your preference? Thanks
The devialet reactor has an impecable way of producing corect sound it s a pure joy , i have a pair of reactor 2 , the 600w versIon and i m in love with them. The sound is clear , very fast , and dynamic . I use the for a space that is 33 mp.
Which will shake your heart ?
My mind says Sonos Five. My heart says Phantom.
Stereo setting always beats standalone. I find it crazy how good a pair of google speakers sound when paired together...
Yeah, I agree. Stereo anything is the right way to go.
Peter upgrade to devialet phantom 1 specifically the 108db version. You Might even get away with buying just one. Check out the clarity and bass of them! I own one myself!
Hi 🙋🏽♂️ mate love your work. Can you do a compare with Sonos 1 n 5 vs the KEF LSX pair.
I’m looking at tidal for use. I’m a Sonos fan and have decked out the home 🏡 with SONOS but keen to hear your view on the LSX
From my own preference, Sonos 1 < KEF LSX < Sonos 5. Assuming you’re all talking about stereo configuration.
The lsx bass is a little anaemic to me and lacks depth. Punch yes but no depth and not layered enough for me.
@@PeterPee thank you. Got the 5s
Which one better for music Bluesound pulse 2i or Sonos Five ? & Which one produce more bass ?
The Sonos Fives.
Seriously I'm telling the transfusion that companies are just trying to rip people off they literally have convinced you only need one speaker which is false you have to have a pair because it's that much better even if it's $100 Bluetooth speaker if you can pair them in a stereo pair get an extra one
I really like your style sir.
I appreciate that! Thanks for letting me know!
Oh, not many people know a Kobold today!
whats better a pair of 600s or a set of the ARC plus surrounds plus sub for room viewing of 90% netflix 10% concerts
ARC + Surround + sub. Much better value.
@@PeterPee thanks you!! pulled the trigger and you played a huge role
keep it up
You can get the Play 5 and the Sonos Sub for about the same price as the Devialet.
Oh ya! Now you put it that way.... you are right!
@peter Pete : do you know the amount of watts on the Sonos five?
What’s the chances of getting a Play:1 vs Play:3 comparison as Surround Rears for an Arc + Sub setup?
A very specific use case which I can possibly do in the future but I’d say the priority is Low. To share with you, the sonic ability changes little but the output volume is greatly improved. And I mean greatly.
Hi am i able to set pair of devialet together with a soundbar for TV? And would it be better if it were just a pair of devialet?
Yes you can use a pair of phantoms with a TV. But NOT a soundbar. It doesn't connect that way. Unless your soundbar has optical out?
Great video
Hey! Big fan of Your videos! I think i would buy two fives and sub for that price haha i think it would be way better than reactors, what do You think ?
Thank you for the support! I would say yes, that'll be what I'd do for the same price. But really, you don't need the sub with the fives unless you are really really a bass head. The bass coming out of the Fives is really powerful already.
Now then I note my sweet spot is about 40% -50% volume too... But the bass diff significantly because my work place is at a corner, the bass amplified significantly
Do you run Trueplay? I noticed that Trueplay tames down the Sonos Five quite a bit if it is placed near a wall or corner.
@@PeterPee I did the Trueplay, the bass was pulled down. I also notice that my old TV sub did output some bass passively because I put my Five on top of it. I turn off the loudness, it sound very natural and clean.. due to space constraints, I would have to invest some furniture before I could get another Five for pairing. Currently, it works as powerful background music for WFH.
How many Watts is the Sonos 5
a pair of Fives + a Sub ... would be a killer combo! and you would still save money compared to a pair of the Reactor 600s
Kejul Patel there’s a video from Peter, that add sub to fives actually do more bad then good. The crossover dip happen at mid bass. Just a pair of Fives would be suffice
Khor Weng Soon yes, I have seen that video, a pair of Fives is great 👍
If I go for a pair of Fives, I’d probably skip the sub and have even more money left over!
@@PeterPee very true ... no need for a sub for music listening on the Fives.
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I can't speak to the Reactors .. I've got a pair of gold phantoms and and loads of Sonos gear. Devialet really screwed their software recently but just recently it's all come good. I use Roon to drive my devices if I'm listing to my local library or a high def stream. Recently Sonos have started supporting FLAC for your local library but you are not going to get hi-def streaming. I think you are really misleading you viewers if you don't cover the signal processing side ... you're only telling part of the story. I'll also take a poke at the Sonos apps .. they aren't that good. It can only index a tiny local library and it is effectively a lowest common denominator feature set to the various streaming services.
Devialet focus on the high end of the market, Sonos on the mid to low end. ... obviously you're going to pay more for the reactors even though they're the bottom of the Devialet range.
If the foundation to your entire review is some arbitrary percentage volume setting and not audio quality I can't see how you justify your frankly insulting conclusion!
Very true !!! 👍🏼
Peter, out of curiousity, which country are you from?
Singapore!
@@PeterPee Figures... cause you have a very familiar accent... Malaysian here btw. LOL!
You explanation about the Devialet drivers is not true. If one driver is going in the other isn't going out, it's the opposite, either both go in or both go out.
Yes Dave. I stand corrected. I learned that after.
The devialet only sounds good at high volume. At low volume it sounds bad. No bass and tiny sound. But the sound is a bit flat… superb bass but overall flat sound.
"If you have more money then sense" LOL
Devialet phantom reactor 600 really loud compare sonos five devialet phantom reactor 600 win
The Sonos 5 when pair together can airplay from Apple TV?
Yes it can. There is a slight lag though.
@@PeterPee oh that sad to hear there is slight lag, then I think only apple HomePod able to airplay from Apple TV without delay. Thank you for the answer
this is the english i know
Great
Sonos é melhor em tudo!
Devialet do a 5.0 home theatre system now for $9000 😲
Almost to the point they are creating something for people with too much money.
I thought it was 5.5! That bass in every speaker. They don't tell you what is included. 5 Reactors (600W 5000USD, 900W 6500USB) that leaves 4000USB for the connecting and controlling bits. I assume some USB/Multi socket to five Toslink outputs for 5 speakers but then where is the 5+1 sub woofer output being sent?
Web site says there is a way of using Phantom Gold but Devialet support say Golds are stereo only. Three Golds and two Reactors (or basic Phantoms) would make for a more sensible cost solution. Surround carries a lot in centre and subwoofer and stereo in the left and right channels. The rear are usually sonic placement. Costs are into where Meridian basically start off at 2000GBP for a single M6.
Gerald McMullon the set up I saw was silver right and left then reactor 600 for centre and rears with a marantz avr
@@Cornwall1888 Does that require Analogue to digital convertor for front, rear and centre/subwoofer? Lots of digital input choices and lots of analogue outputs but not digital.
what about people with no money & no sense lol
for everything else there's mastercard
Basically, if you have neighbours, best not to get the Devialet! Haha!
I surprise my five music don’t penetrate the walls... closing the door is good enough.. May be my house design is quite good.. I don’t have shared walls to any neighbors. My ceiling equipped with false ceiling.... not sure unit above me and below feels though... but ever since I bought my give I can hear some bass from others.... may be try to protest? Haha
@@shukhor3010 I believe they saw your videos and bought them on your recommendation! Also, greetings from a fellow Singaporean!
Emi J haha yeah.. luckily Peter is not my neighbor.
Maybe the bass you’re hearing in protest is from me? Haha. Hey there fellow countrymen!
6430 Follower 👀 And the Rest of the World stay stupid 🙈 Sorry for that, but you are Awesome and all Users from Sonos Things have to see you nice Videos ☝️ Thank You for that 🙏
Thank you jack. My intention is to just share what I know. There are others who don’t have to know. But they still enjoy whatever they have. It’s also a good place to be.
For me, I am a small channel. It’s a couple of months old. And I have lots and lots to learn. I am not even the most confident in front of the camera but I’ll try to improve over time. Thank you for your support!
Both suck compared to the LS50 W
No offence to you but it would be great if you hire a script reader as I can hardly hear what you say due to your heavy accent.
Sorry about that. But the script reader will probably earn more money than what this small channel makes!
@@PeterPee I'm French and I understand you perfectly. Thx 😁
No problem here, not hard to understand at all!