I have a huge feeling that he's going to find a way out of the magic spell that caged him in one spot. But maybe, I really hope that Sun realizes that he's probably going too far...I just hope Sun, Moon, Earth, and Lunar (+) are able to have some sort of day or 2 off of what's happening, cause they seriously need a break.
What if someone stumbles into there (via the hole monty dug awhile ago because idk if he would have actually filled it) and sun gets the idea to strike a deal with them to help him get out of the magic square?! Wait- what if it's shadow freddy that finds him??? (if anyone ever finds him there while he's stuck)
@@rnd0m437 shadow Bonnie. Shadow Bonnie has already made a deal by appearing randomly in glitchtraps house. It could also be balloon boy looking for batteries.
I'm so proud of Moon! He didn't know them but he understood BloodMoon wasn't able to help it! I never thought Moon would say this about Bloody and Scythe! They are gone forever because of Sun and have no chance to change because of that! *applauding*
@@SideSun Im pretty sure what Mavis is trying to say is that Moon understood why BM was the way he was, because he was exactly like them. Though Moon was able to change from his homicidal ways, BM never got the chance to, and most likely never will because Sun killed him. Was it deserved? Yes, I can agree with Sun on that, but, at the same time, Moon is right. Sun is usually the more reasonable one out of the two, so im sure he would have somehow got through to BM and make him see the error of his ways.
I didn't ignore that. Sun always felt like that. But Moon has never seen Sun's feelings. He never acknowledged them. And it hurts... I think that Sun was planning on never going back home... after his "mission"... I think that Sun wanted to die trying to kill Eclipse... Or maybe he only wanted to kill himself... after all he acts and sounds like Eclipse... which I think Sun fully realises... And I think that Sun is afraid of himself because he feels like he's (and always was) evil... he sees himself as a monster... And he's afraid that if he'll keep being with his brothers they'll end up hurt like always... because he blames himself for everything... which sadly not many people realise...
@@katarzynamedynska1682 Exactly,and the fact that right before he killed blood moon he was trying to get help. not to mention he doesn’t know what eclipse is or what he’s capable of right now but he doesn’t care he has no self preservation, and I don’t think him being alone and self reflecting is a good idea for him right now it’s probably going to make sun feel worse
As much as I am happy that Moon stopped Sun, and as much as I respect that Sun is his own person who can make his own decisions and such despite his current decisions being terrible choices, I feel that a confrontation between Eclipse and Sun is inevitable. With Eclipse gaining a new body and a means of deceiving everyone around him, it’s likely that Sun will catch a slip up and possibly go feral, lol. I also don’t think killing Eclipse will make Sun feel any better, at all. I think Sun forgets that revenge solves nothing and is only there to satisfy his selfish desire to feel like he’s making things right. Small edit: And I understand how both sides are feeling, I have siblings, I’ve been in both positions before. Sun feels betrayed and extremely hurt that his brother is doing this to him, not understanding why Moon won’t just let him do that “one small task” of Killing Eclipse, and Moon feels exhausted and out of options, also extremely hurt by the fact that he had no choice *but* to confine Sun to that space for his own good and in the hopes that Sun will come to his senses and see that his actions are foolish
I’m gonna be honest, Moon did the worst thing to trap Sun in beta 10, not only because it’s a place where a chunk of suns trama is, but because Eclipse is going to beta 10 at the minute. And with Eclipse having a body, I think they will both run into each other, it will not end well if they see each other. And everyone always sees sun as an energetic and friendly animatronic which wouldent ever hurt a fly. Now Sun is actually starting to express himself and when he finally did Moon just traps him in an invisible prison which will only make Sun lose his sanity even more, At the end sun looks at his reflection and says “pathetic” obviously talking about himself. At one point he says “SCREW BEING A HERO!” Suns just fed up, he wants to express himself but nobody likes his true self. I want Sun to get out of moons prison, I just want sun to be himself for once and not force himself to be the animatronic who never would hurt a fly, he thinks he’s weak and moons making it worse.
i honestly hope this trap of Moon backfires cause sun does need to express, even negatively, surpressing him with his thoughts will make this way worse than it is already but i do hope sun get a chance to at least express and then find a safier way to do it
I agree! Moon's idea of trapping Sun isn't the best choice at all! Sun is breaking, loosing his sanity and wants to help as much as possible, but Moon is like, 'nope' and traps Sun like that. He told Sun to look at himself in the mirror, as if Sun wasn't himself and obviously Moon doesn't like Sun being different. Nobody likes Sun being different. I want Sun to express his emotions more, instead of being a sitting duck, watching the commotion, listening and feeling it happen, and do nothing about it. I want Sun to fix this, and save everyone. Sun is a hero, and forever will be. The others just don't believe it yet.
Oh, wow... Really heavy stuff. And you can see how much stress both of them are under. Sun was definitely trying to hit Moon where it hurt. I hope this does work, though, and get Sun to come back to his senses. ...Also that Moon left some defenses and failsafes in place in case Eclipse comes skulking around while Sun is still immobile. It really was fitting for this to be the showdown location though. Moon's thoughts on Bloodmoon were interesting, and they do make a lot of sense. It also makes me feel even worse for them since they themselves also admitted they had problems and hated the compulsions Eclipse programmed into them. Also I am glad Moon got the chance to tell his brother how much he loved hom, even if his actions here had to be hash and Sun isn't in a mindset where he can believe him right now.
I agree and also I just remembered something I think I know what's eclipse plan he's going to use circus baby device the one at the wedding and an eclipse is going to reprogram it
Two lore videos in a row! It's been a while, and I'm very nervous-excited. :'D Oh gosh, Beta 10 is *that* bunker! It's really has been a while since we last saw this abysmal place. How fitting for an argument between Sun and Moon... Yeah, this episode broke my heart. It still hurts to see Moon and Sun fighting, even after all this time. I just wish Sun would calm down and *listen* to what Moon is saying- he seems so focused on the fact that everyone is telling him to stop that he won't acknowledge *why* they're telling him to! Moon is trying to *protect you,* Sun! I bet you feel stronger than ever since you killed Bloodmoon, but the truth is that your a glass pane spider-webbed with cracks, and with one tap, you'll *shatter.* And then you can never be put back together to be who you truly are.
3:25 YES!!! finally someone addressed this! The Bloodmoons were PROGRAMED to be homicidal so they couldn't control it very well and now they can't even HAVE a redemption arc because they were murdered it's like Moon's killcode but probably way stronger since his purpose was to make Moon witness brutal murders and I personally think Moon's killcode might've a security code gone bad or something of the sort and Bloodmoons killcode was purposeful
Am I the only one who heard what sounds like a meow before it cuts to the outro? Aside from that, I found it was nice for Moon to keep repeating I love you to Sun so Sun knows that Moon cares about him. (Edit) I keep seeing people saying it was a cat and ye I'm aware. I found itfunny after a serious moment you just hear a meow 😂 Also when Moon said "I love you" I kept saying aw. I usually feel the emotions in the lore but this one I couldn't cause of Moon saying I live you to Sun.
I WANT THE CAT TO FREE HIM, THAT WOULD BE HILARUOUS. WHAT IF THE CAT BECOMES PART OF SUN RAMPAGE. THAT WOULD BE HILARIOUS. ( But seriously I could imagine that there might be some cameras there. And, Moon checks one, and see’s Sun and his cat walking out.
I'm starting to realize.... Sun wanting to kill Eclipse.... is basically saying that if given another chance, another choice.... He would have killed Moon if they never separated. Moon and Kill code are interchangeable back in the day. Sun thinks Moon is being unfair with a double standard right now, but by saying that Sun is just going to kill the people who hurt them and killed people..... Moon thinks he falls into that category. The last confrontation Sun described KillCode as a "sociopathic murderer living in his head." and that "he dealt with it before" ..... I don't think Sun realizes how much that those words can actually hurt his brother. Cause that's who he used to be.
I see what you mean, but I'm wondering if it was possible about Eclipse, because- well, Eclipse WAS a psychopathic murderer living in his head that could take over at any time.
I’ve never stopped what I was doing so fast before- GREAT JOB MOON!! I know sun is starting to act more like Eclipse but when you pay attention to his tone he’s starting to sound more like him too… I’m really hoping Sun spends his time reflecting and not plotting for when he’s let out… 6:22 AHHH HE SAID IT!! 8:26 I think Sun brought his cat along 🧍♀️
That's Moons problom theough, his whole lack of attention to to Sun and his trauma, stress, neglect and loneliness, self esteem, overwhelming responsibilities to the daycare, PTSD from July 16th, depression and his Insults and mistreatment of Sun didn't help either. The orginal reason he went after Sun was so Sun would be there for HIM and his emotional needs but not be there for Sun's. Moon needs to reflect on how a lost of his actions cause that and take resonabity instead of just blowing it off and treating Sun like he doest matter unless it's to Moons benifit. Words are all well and good but he never ACTS or SHOWS he means what he says or keeps his promises of being better.
Finally! Moon is beginning to use his mistakes as a learning experience not a hindrance! He only used them to really make a point, not get down on himself! Also, I got instant flashbacks in that bunker, but in my opinion THIS was the way Moon needed to show tough love to Sun. Also Sun is really intimidating right now, and it really well written. Edit: Okay little correction it was good on Moon's treatment to Sun getting better, not that it is good that Eclipse is heading to Beta 10 also-
Wait, sun trapped?! HUH- also, 2 LORES IN A ROW?! This whole episode has been a huge mess, I never thought I would see Sun Act like this until now. I'm happy Moon understands that bloodmoon couldn't help how they were. 7:00 Sun calling Moon a hypocrite is the last thing I would think Sun would say - 7:23 That's precious! Even tho they were going back and forth with each other, they would still love each other. They are both doing this for one another. 8:27 Did anyone else hear a meow? That was probably Davis' cat.
I am gonna need to re-watch this a few times because holy cow- *Paragraph warning. Gonna be analyzing, read if you want.* Okay. After a few re-watches, I am still winded. So much happened in just 9 minutes. ~ I had a feeling Beta 10 would be the bunker. THE bunker. It also explains why Eclipse was so familiar with it, he's been there before while still inside Sun. It's almost poetic that things would unravel here. Not necessarily where everything began, but it holds a very bittersweet sentiment. "This was meant to hide from problems." Ironically, hiding from them in and of itself, IS the problem. The fact that Sun was hesitant and asked if a trap had been set shows how on edge he is, with everyone including Moon trying to stop him. And soon as he sees his target isn't there, he's ready to go. He's getting more desperate. "I want my brother back." "I'm right. HERE." Sun is fed up with everyone seeing him like he is changing for the worse, or seeing him as somebody else. Identity crisis through the roof already. "Ohh yes, that's what all those pessimistic comments of yours ALWAYS make it feel like. Right?...You have a real funny way of showing it, don't you?" I love that Sun brought this up. It's obvious that Moon isn't the best with emotions, that much is clear. And sadly, it has had an effect on Sun, who is EXTREMELY emotionally-driven. Right now, he is driven by anger. He's tired of Moon's "talks" because he knows they will lead to nowhere, so why bother sticking around? "Let me clue you in a little bit, Moon. You don't know JACK about me, right now. You really don't." Sun is right, in a way. Moon really doesn't know much about Sun, and this is due to the severe lack of communication between the two. 'Sun doesn't lie, Sun is the good one, Sun is the happy one'. Moon might have noticed behavioral changes in Sun, but he didn't see how far it'd gone until it was too late. "Going on a homicidal rampage...You killed Blood Moon!" Odd, coming from Moon. When did one death become a "rampage"? "HE...was someone, that DESERVED IT!!!" I knew that would be Sun's reasoning. BM was someone Sun saw who deserved what they got (and let's be fair they had it coming). Sun sounds fed up with having to defend himself. And it's odd, hearing Moon defend Blood Moon. Considering we as the audience know how BM's and Sun's last exchange went down. Regardless, something about it doesn't sit right with me. Even though Moon does have a point. Whether or not BM could've been capable of changing for the better, I have no idea honestly. The way Moon explains it to Sun, though, it's like he is trying to get Sun to be aware of his actions, or get him to "wake up". "Did anything bad happen besides Lunar leaving? What, did I hurt his feelings a little bit too hard?" "Boy, that sure sounds like Sun and not Eclipse!" Not gonna lie, I gasped when Moon said this. Now, someone else is comparing Sun to Eclipse. Which is definitely not what Sun wants or needs to hear, considering the next thing he says is for Moon to get out of the way. Honestly, I'm rooting for bitter Sun. Let him be bitter. "What, gonna beat me up again?...We're in the same place anyways!" I LOVE THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT UP. It shows that what happened STILL affects Sun to this day! Moon may have apologized for punching Sun, but that doesn't take away the pain and shock of what happened. And even then, Sun is still so desperate to try and help Moon. "I'm trying to PROTECT you. I'm trying to HELP, in SOME way!" "I'm not gonna beat you up, because I don't need to. You forget WHAT you are, and what I know how to do." This also didn't sit right with me. It feels very controlling. Moon is so desperate to keep Sun that his desire for control is slipping through. And using the word "what" also sounds very dehumanizing and demeaning, even if that's not what Moon meant. "I'm gonna have to do something that I probably don't wanna do!" I know this is in reference to Eclipse's deal. In Moon's defense, he does have a lot on his plate. His deal with KC, the schematics from Solar Flare, and Eclipse's deal. He's busy with his own stuff, and yes, Sun's actions do make things difficult. If Moon does decide to accept Eclipse's deal, Sun can't get involved. Moon doesn't want to lose Sun. He's losing him emotionally and mentally, but at the very least he can keep him physically, by keeping him in the bunker. I do worry that trapping him via magic will only worsen things. I think Sun still has that "Magic for Dummies" book Moon gave him, so he might be able to get himself out. "Sun, I love you. You are my brother. I care about you. And I want us both safe as much as the next person. But you killing people is not gonna help us." "Sure...sure...sure...get out..." Sun muttering this while Moon talks shows just how DONE he is. I also feel like he actually has had doubts about whether or not Moon cares about him. "I'm tired of your semantics already, there is nothing else for you to tell me, either get out, or just shut. up." "You're a hypocrite...you're such a hypocrite..." He isn't wrong. In Sun's eyes, Moon is acting like a hypocrite. "Yeah, go ahead and pout." I can't blame Moon for feeling frustrated, he couldn't reach through to his brother a second time, but the fact that he calls it "pouting", left me feeling iffy. Still seeing his brother in a childish way. "Now I have to go pick a deal, and that'll result in one of the people you want to kill being gone." Moon sees this as a way of helping Sun. He has the means of taking out either Eclipse or KC, without his brother's involvement. But this is him once again shouldering everything, making things his responsibility. Making Sun feel useless even more, as he turns away from Moon not wanting to even look at him. "I'll get out...I'll get out..." Certainly sounds like both a promise and wishful thinking. Sun is determined and desperate enough to want to reach his goal, he'll do just about anything. Let's just hope in the meantime he doesn't develop claustrophobia. It's also worth mentioning he is now trapped inside the place where a good chunk of his trauma took place... "...You're pretty pathetic, aren't you?" He says to his own reflection. He knows he's reached a low point, and he knows no one around him likes it. No one likes how he's handling things. Especially with all the comparisons between him and Eclipse. To the point of self-loathing. It's telling he acknowledges it, though. ~ aight, analysis done for now. I'll likely add more if other thoughts arise. Hope you enjoyed the read if you made it this far
Text walls like this are why I bother reading the comments. I'm so happy that there are more people taking Suns side. Like okay, Moons not exactly WRONG and Sun isnt exactly doing the right thing, but EVEYTHING that we've been seeing with Sun even before BloodMoons death HAS BEEN BUILDING UP. As much as we needed to focus on Moon and his issues, especially once KillCode came back, Sun hasnt recieved one break or recuperation SINCE ECLIPSE MANIFESTED. And again, Moon makes good points and Sun certainly needs to time out and calm down, but good god it's really troubling seeing people, in and out of the show, acting like Sun is "going through a villian arc". Sun is DESPERATE. Sun is HURTING. Sun HATES HIMSELF. And Sun HASNT HAD ANYONE SUPPORTING HIM. And sure, Moon has tried, but as we've seen since BloodMoon died, Moon hasnt actually been letting Sun really express what he needed to. THATS the tradegy of this arc. Sun ISNT BECOMING ECLIPSE, his family is just convinced he is. And now hes having to lash out because no one let's him do what HE thinks will fix it, and instead tries to stop him while they haven't actually fixed anything. The issue of this arc (besides the actual homicidal maniacs ofc) is one of repressed emotions and lack of communication. What is gonna fix this is communicating and FINALLY LETTING IT ALL OUT. #SunNeedsTherapy
Okay at 8:26 listen to the sound after Sun sighs. I could have sworn I heard his cat. The Cat has followed him AS FOR THE REST OF THIS VIDEO THIS IS THE MOST TIMES MOON HAS SAID HE LOVES HIS BROTHER AND I AM HERE FOR IT!! I love when Moon uses magic cause it shows how freaking BOSS he can be. I had chills when he said LOCK. Love how Moon doesn't need to say much when casting spells. Now Sun is the equivalent of having his nose in the corner until he's thought about what hes done. I hope this helps Sun.
Moon really did put Sun in the timeout corner. If Sun is anything like I used to be when I was little, timeout will just cause more rage and aggression. I didn't reflect when someone told me to. I had to do it on my own. And I'm sure Sun will be the same way. But at least he isn't roaming around unhinged ig.
I am so worried about sunny! I understand that this was necessary, though it might make them go a bit more crazy, but it’s better than having crazy sun on the loose, I really hope sun and moon can figure this out. They’ve gone through so much and I hope that soon everything will go back to normal for them.
Yeah leaving sun to himself doesn't really sound like a good idea, yeah on one had there's room to reflect on what he's doing, but this will probably make him think more bad thoughts too
Now I was not expecting this. After the last lore video, I expected moon to maybe take a break for a bit. I can’t help but be disappointed sun is doing this, but I understand how mad he is. He thinks he’s never done anything for his brother, but when he simply exists, THAT is what you’re doing for your brother. SUN👏NEEDS👏THERAPY Edit: That’s it. Bloody is gone for good. Maybe he was a problem, but he’ll always be deep in our hearts. ❤R.I.P our smol vampire❤
I saw the title and immediately freaked out. Oh moon... Sun is so gonna hate you for this... OHH SUNS IN TIME OUT!!! 6:23 MOON SAID THE THING! HE SAID THE THING! Sun villain arc?
This is the first time crying on this show because it reminds me of my childhood trama but 5:38 made me laugh and can't stop replaying that part- Hopefully sun gets a lot of therapy ima hugging my sun plushie so much and never let them go, sun I really really really hope you get therapy your my favorite character in this show! Hope you guys feel better!
3:33 "he. Was someone who deserved it." "Who couldn't control it!!" This really broke my heart.. Moon has a point, BloodMoon was just doing what he was programmed to do. He was a good boy who followed orders.. he was basically like a misunderstood child.. correction. They *were* misunderstood children. 3:49 "the difference is that you changed. He never-" "he couldn't change!! HE'S DEAD!!!" Once again Moon is right.. if they'd of kept him alive perhaps Moon could've done something about his programming.. perhaps Bloody could've joined the good team but now they're gone for good..
Oh no Sun is trapped by Moon in VRCHAT! Wow I wonder how this is gonna go.. Hello Sun and Moon Show, hope you guys are very well, just wanted too say this too Sun:(The Invisible Davis) and Moon:(EC_UNIVERSAL) thank you for your personality and content and support, it's been a blast seeing Sun and Moon reactions on gaming videos and the VR's like it's been amazing so thank you so so much, and Sun and Moon Show if you get this reply can I plz hug you guys, I would love a hug, I would appreciate it, love ya guys so so much, your channel is the best! 0:05 I noticed the mat on the floor and then I had a closer look and it's that place again, Moon hasn't been there in a while.. 0:22 or 0:23 YAY IT'S SUN ^^ 0:33 oh no Sun has noticed Moon, ow this is gonna be good! 2:18 OH NO, MOON GET OF OFF HIM BEFORE IT GET'S WORSE!!!!! 8:20 I feel bad for Sun just standing there waiting top get out! And I was stressed out today and I wanted Sun and Moon Show too do VR today and they did, wow your so great Sun and Moon!!
I hope Sun doesn't stay isolated long- And I hope he and Moon will be able to talk soon... I wonder if he was lying about hearing anything though... AND WHO'S TAKING CARE OF THE KIT!?
@@ordinarystranger6667 I would think that but didn't they basically write her out (Intro wise) because of issues with the model's creator so they have to make a new intro for her meaning she isn't there yet?
@@flowerchild7027 the two lore videos right after the Earth one alluded to Earth and the interactions a few times meaning that it still happened. She just won’t have that design.
@@_.hybrids._1680 yeah, someone was saying that the Solar Flare episode was them trying to retcon, but I checked the episodes before and after and they're still acting like Earth is in the daycare.
Jestem szczęśliwa, że Moon w końcu powiedział Sun'owi, że go kocha i troszczy się o niego. Niestety martwi mnie to co zrobił... zamykając go samego jest dość duża szansa, że stan Sun się pogorszy zamiast się polepszyć. Współczuję tej dwójce
What zuszab said was: I'm happy that moon finally told sun that he loves and cares for him. Unfortunately, I'm worried about what he did... locking hin up alone, there's a pretty good chance that sun's condition will get worse instead of better. I sympathize with these two
i wasnt expecting a lore video after another lore video. hopefully Sun sits there and really thinks about what he's doing. especially after killing Bloodmoon.
Ok so imagine this, You killed someone in self defense who was pretending to be your brother, you find out that a person who forcefully took over your body for months is still alive and planning something shortly after what made your brother kill people is around and is collaborating with the same guy who’s been torturing you. Now you have reason to believe that the psychopaths are going to hurt you or your friends and family, so you want to kill one of them because you do not feel safe. Your brother wants to stop you because he believes that you aren’t acting like yourself. Your brother has a box or set of behaviors that you can’t leave or stray away from or else he will try to force you back into it. Your brother also try’s to say you shouldn’t of killed that person in self defense because they couldn’t control it. Now please remember you are one of two people in this weird ass family that ISNT a serial killer or a person who has attempted what essentially amounts to genocide. So your brother basically paralyzes you and leaves you in solitary confinement, which (if it lasts for more than 15 days), is torture and a very very fucked up thing to do yo someone who you apparently love. I’m sorry but what moon did and is doing is not a justifiable way to treat someone. Sun needed to be stopped yes, he was a danger to himself and others, but moon didn’t need to leave him in a concrete underground bunker alone. He could of had Monty stay with him, or found a way to move him back to the daycare, or not of just left him there. Try standing still for 30 minutes with nothing to listen to or do. Sun is very obviously having a mental breakdown and is not is a stable state of mind. Being completely alone with only his thoughts can only make this situation worse for him. Bloodmoon was threatening sun and in the episode (or one before) he says to the other one that they want to torture sun. Sun has been forced to be a voice of a reason and NO ONE ever considers that maybe, just maybe, not being allowed to express any form of aggression or anger or upset has a negative impact on someone. Moon is allowed to be aggressive and angry, Eclipse can be angry and try to kill everyone, kill codes entire existence is being a murderer, but that second Sun is even a little more aggressive than usual he’s ‘turning into eclipse’ which is bullshit. Sun shouldn’t act the way he did towards lunar, that was extremely unjustified and bad and I will not argue that, but how is moon better than sun? Killing eclipse isn’t a bad thing to do. He’s not going to give up on trying to hurt sun and moon as long as he’s alive. I don’t think he can be redeemed because 1. He tried to kill EVERYONE and 2. He doesn’t want to change. Sun shouldn’t of been trapped the way he was and I don’t get how people can watch this and think ‘yes good job moon’. Anything short of murder is better than what moon does in this episode. Sun needed to be stoped but why like this? This wasn’t a reasonable thing to do and it’s not a reasonable way to treat anyone.
After this is sorted out (Sun not on a murderous rampage and back at the daycare), Sun needs at least 3 therapy episodes and then everyone needs therapy with a LICENCED therapist, not just talking with Monty or another anamatronic, a LICENCED HUMAN therapist. This is what needs to happen but probably won't and I am sad because of it...
I thought about it for a bit… The Bloodmoons seem to be highly smart from having transferred themselves in a little body until later on making the deal with Lunar and getting their nano machine body,and having turned off the failsafe that Eclipse made for them during their origin. Moon confirmed that they have no backup nor anything but… what if they do have a backup? Their little body is still around so they could just use that or they possibly cloned so their other clone is still around there. They’re still a Moon so… they do have a very low probability of still being around since they are smart. I still wanna have high hopes that they’ll come back, NGL I am hoping that they’re gonna make an appearance in the accident day (that certain July) whether they are talked about or literally come back. But for right now R.I.P BloodMoon you two were a very scary kind of adorable. Also I am highly scared of the fact that Eclipse and Sun are going to be meeting each other. I hope it doesn’t go horribly wrong.
Yes moon!! I feel like sun will get better moon or Monty needs to scan sun and see what’s going on with him if eclipses code is still there or something like that!
. . .Wow, we have really come a loooooong way, I remember seeing this bunker back in what, July? Jesus christ- Also, Sun has completely lost it. Even though he hasn't done anything yet besides kill BM, i'm sure he was ready to do more killing, even if it wasn't Eclipse. But, I'm extremely thankful that Moon was able to trap him and is still trying to do whatever he can to get through to his brother. Also, 6:22. . .😭🤍
I’m glad Moon put Sun in time out as well! Sun needs to calm down to realize he is ruining his life by doing what he’s doing. It’s so sad that he doesn’t care to be a hero! It makes it sound he’d be happy becoming a villain which would make his broken family very sad. It was beautiful that Moon reminded Sun that even in his upset state, he still loves his brother! Sun was too much of a brat to listen still. Yet maybe, hopefully Sun being stuck there will make Sun realize he doesn’t want to be evil and rather work with his family instead of against his family! It’s so sad because Sun used to be so worried for Lunar, and now he had managed to make Lunar afraid of him! That is gonna time so much time to reverse! I’m glad Moon stood up for BloodMoon even though he didn’t know them. He still understood they were trapped by their programming. Moon is just as guilty as BloodMoon for killings. And even though Sun killed a bad individual, that doesn’t erase that he had killed. Sun is a killer, he has to deal with the aftermath of that! And I can only guess that possibly Sun is haunted by the blood brothers yet has believed he had ignored them the whole time. Seriously if it’s been several days from Sun running away, and not going home from his own fears such as night time darkness; then it’s probably some lingering aggression that the blood brothers have with wanting Eclipse dead. So if Sun is haunted by BloodMoon, then I can argue that he would have more of a fighting chance! BloodMoon are a skilled fighter and will protect themselves. Yet I’m sure they would want to fight their abuser pretty dirty to finish the unfinished fight from before!
Just gotta say Sun is going through a mix of self deprecation, need for "justice", and a WHOLE bunch of other things Sun has a problem where he wants to prove himself and just- put an end to all this stress. He also has a point in how Moon treats him, while Moon doesn't mean to, he really contributes quite a bit to Sun's self-worth issues, but at the same time Sun never said that he wasnt okay with it. I only just now think Moon realizes how his words have impacted sun
Okay so, I have a head canon/hunch of what I think might happen, what if something happens and moon leaves sun in the prison for years because moon just forgot that his brother was there, remembers, and comes back to see sun in like and almost insane state of mind? I think it would be pretty cool if like Daybreaker spawned from that and sun is like almost eclipse looking, but instead of orange and black, its red or purple and black with like bigger rays or more rays. I'm not saying that this is what will happen exactly, but I think it would be cool if it did happen and we get some kind of villain arc for sun while moon has to try to figure out how to get his brother back to normal. (An idea I had at like 3 AM so sorry if its bad)
Sun didn't sound like he was reflecting on his actions towards the end, but I'm hoping he'll cool down a bit. I understand his anger and desire to hurt Eclipse. He feels responsible, he wants to help Moon like Moon helped him, and feels useless when he can't help or when someone stops him. It is also possible that deep down he thinks that others consider him too incompetent to help, to which he subconsciously begins to react with aggression. Sun just wants to help, he has taken the most radical measures he can and has lost himself in it. He was consumed by hatred and a thirst for revenge. It's hard to be surprised by him....
Oh, poor Moon. Poor *everyone* honestly. I feel so bad for everyone and words can’t even express how bad I feel for everyone! I wish they could finally get a well-deserved break. Poor things.
Sun doesn’t like looking at himself in the mirror. Much like Moon hated looking at himself, Sun hates looking himself in the eye now. That’s proof enough that he has guilt, he’s seeing himself as a monster and he truly felt something after he killed BM. When the bloody twins were taunting him, Sun heard Eclipse. He didn’t think he was talking too two separate people but, he thought he was talking to someone he has already tried to get through too, Eclipse. When Moon said that he killed BM, Sun hesitated. You could tell he is having a harder time justifying himself killing BM. Sun is cracking, Moon is getting through to him, that’s why Sun told Moon to shut up or leave. Moon is slowly chipping away at this shell of hatred, revenge and pain that Sun has put around himself. Moon, I think you need to stay by Sun’s side but, you’re going to need to be patient. Do not push him to reveal his emotions and just sit quietly by. Sun has a habit of talking to himself out loud, he doesn’t like silence when there is someone to talk to, he might let something finally slip. When he does, gently push the subject, don’t force him. Get him to think about what you’re saying and sooner or later, Sun will probably crack. Let him vent, it’s not going to be pleasant but, he needs it. Give Sun gentle reminders that you love him and you want to support him. Give him that insurance that you will always and forever be there. You just have to be patient. Sun is probably going to say some stuff that isn’t very fun to hear when you are sitting there but, this is him venting as well. A question that you could ask, when you believe it is the right time to do so, is what is Sun planning on doing after he kills Eclipse. This will get him thinking because, I don’t think he even knows what he’s really going to do after he kills Eclipse. Sun never truly denied that you know him the best, Moon. Only that you don’t know him the best right now. Sun knows you are the only one that can talk reason to him, that’s why he wanted you to leave. You need to go back to him once you make your decision on the deal. For one, you can make sure Sun doesn’t find a way out of his invisible box and two, so you can catch something he might say to himself. Encourage that it’s okay to let your emotions out, just in a lot more healthier ways than, murder. I don’t think Sun truly wants to do this to an extent, more that he feels he has to. Suns resolve is cracking and you are going to have be the one to give the final hit as well as, be the one to help pick up the pieces. You got this, Mooney!
Honestly, I understand what Sun is doing, and I get what he’s trying to accomplish. Eclipse is a bot that has physically and emotionally and mentally hurt Sun a lot, and he thinks Moon is assisting in Eclipse still being allowed to live by not doing anything. I think Sun needs help, and to reflect, but I do understand. I hope Sun gets better, weather it’s through passive, or not so passive ways.
It's an extreme measure, but I understand why Moon used the "lock" spell on Sun. Sun needs a timeout to hopefully think things through. BUT now Sun is trapped while Eclipse is on his way to Beta10! Hopefully, he'll run into Moon instead of going into the bunker.
Moon had made a really good point out about Bloodmoon with Sun, the twins were brought into something they didn’t care about and had this uncontrollable urge to do what they did. I still often think to that video where they first discover Eclipse making a back-up in them, the one where they roam Chinatown and wonder why they had this urge to kill and thirst for blood. I was so hopeful for them in that moment to have some form of redemption or something, but then came that moment Sun killed them. When that happened, Killcode expressed a sense of grief when he lost them, kind of says a lot if you think about it. Sun is trying to do this within good reason, yes, but his behavior/attitude is no longer the cheery Sun we once knew and loved. I agree with the rest of the comments here, he definitely needs therapy, but seeing how things have been going.. therapy session is gonna take a long while. If Eclipse appears now, Sun is gonna be very livid and drama is gonna definitely kick off. (It’s been ages since we’ve seen this bunker, boy.. some tense and emotional moments were had there in the past, and now we got another that’s recent added to the pile.)
Holy shit! Was not expecting that, but to be fair, what Moon did was reasonable. Sun is losing himself to homicide, I just hope the boys are gonna be ok
yeah but we herar that ecileps was going to beta 10 so there is 6 chense ecilips hurt sun realy bad ecileps going into sun again sun kiling/hurting ecilips but l dont think sun can even tuch him do to the fact that he is trept ecilips just standing there and madeding sun insene ecileps making sun free with some kind of secrefize or ecileps can act like slor flare or just see moon in the way of beta 10
I honestly am not gonna be surprised if Sun lets Eclipse take over, not caring who he hurts till he possibly nearly kills Moon or Lunar, Roxanne or even Monty, and then realizes what he is doing is wrong. Sure hope Sun comes to reason soon......Before its too late...
@@rainpuppy14 Bloodmoon technically was close to being canon and Eclipse as well. It's still very possible but due to them being programs, there is a chance that somewhere there is copy codes of all of them hidden someplace in case they need it.
@@zeldagamelover24 well, you need to see where Sun is coming from, just like Moon and Lunar, he suffered trauma too, yet unlike the two, he never got someone to talk to, mush less someone who could listen and not judge him.. Sun carries anger from the past, his actions are the effect of being abused and feeling useless, so much so that now he cant stand to watch Moon lose his mind for a 3rd time.. yes, his way to get revenge are not ideal, since he doesnt ever have a weapong, but its not suddent nor a mistery why he is doing this..
Neither brother is listening to the other. I know Moon has good intentions but he's a bit oblivious to how Sun is feeling. There's a lot going on and as much as he wants to understand, he's not asking the right questions. Instead of wondering why Sun is doing this for him, he needs to ask why Sun thinks he needs to be 'useful' and why he currently doesn't feel useful, I think that might help. I swear, I get more worried, the more I hear Sun's angry voice because now he's starting to sound just like Eclipse in tone and pitch. I keep expecting him to say something that fully breaks his relationship with Moon and tips him into the evil category but the little self deprecating jab at the end really drives home that it's not as simple as good and evil.
I'm a little scared of what might happen since eclipse has a body for him and he knows how to use magic and Sun is trapped, I'm scared Eclipse will do something to Sun because he's trapped😥
It all went from Moon calmy trying to reason with Sun, to the point of locking him in a invisible square I mean, that's a good way to do that, for now, Sun's stuck, and either losing his mind slowly, or recovering Only time will tell
I think with Eclipse getting a new body and everything else that's going is making Sun go insane as he wants to help Moon and get revenge but revenge won't solve anything. Sun has basically almost lost it because of everything that is happening and Sun just is trying to keep himself from going insane and trying to help but only fail on keeping himself from going insane..
My theory of Bloodmoon not being dead has been updated. I believe that because of the spell lunar casted to give Bloodmoon his body instead of putting him into the body like Monty did with Lunars body, that it saved him. The spell was most likely reversed after all the nanos in the body got destroyed by the canon and turned back into the small body he had when they first met Lunar. We most likely did not see this because they most likely blasted into the wall near the theater on the upper floor outside the daycare. All the magic they had was all in the nano body, but now that it's destroyed, they can't teleport home to the base. They were too nervous to go near the daycare, so they hid in the theater until they knew Sun was gone. I like to think that between that time that no one's at the daycare, a provider for Lunars bean bag factory is on the phone with Monty going over the property which is really old so it's really rat infested. Bloodmoon would overheard this but not care a huge amount until they heard it was, in fact, lunars and hear the location. So they went there for 3 reasons, 1: to eat the rats. 2: it's a safe place, and no one would ever expect them to be there, so it's a very good hiding spot. 3: they could finally reunite with Lunar if he decides to finally check out the factory of that location because Bloodmoon has missed Lunar more than they want to admit. Maybe lunar might go there, and my theory will be correct. If my theory becomes canon, I will literally lose my mind, and I had to think so much about all the element like where they could be, how they could have survived and it makes sense to me, I hope this theory makes sense to everyone who reads this theory of mine.
I feel like trapping Sun is a good idea bc who knows what was bound to happen if he got to Eclipse. Idk if it's just me, but I feel like this isn't actually Sun, the whole time, I've felt like his overflowing emotions were fully in control and not the actual Sun there's supposed to be. IMMA ACTUALLY BE SCARED IF HE MANAGES TO ESCAPE 😭😭😭☠☠
im crying... im in tears right now... moons off to make a deal, suns trapped... and hes been left alone... and i heard what sounded to be eclipses voice around the end of the video... i can only pray that this will all be resolved soon...
My personal theory is that Sun is going to dig his way out of the trap bc moon might not have thought to put a force field below him and Monty already dug through that area once showing it is possible for animatronics to do so and Sun is currently just unhinged enough to pull it off, even if he is less strong than Monty. I mean, he was strong enough to drag Lunar to Golden Freddy’s and was able to push Monty into a wall, so it’s not impossible.
But he does have rays on his head that are made of metal. It’s possible he’d use those, but he might not go that far. Your opinion really got me thinking! Thanks for adding on!
I remember perfectly the last time they've been here and now I realized the difference between now and before it's deeper then I thought, way WAY deeper. I hardly recognized Sun and that hurt my soul, I'm just happy and proud Moon has changed for the better. The one time I saw a sparkle of hope, that I DID recognized Sun even if only slightly was. at the very end of the video when he said under his breath "you're pretty pathetic aren't you?" looking straight at his reflection
Sun and Moon NEED family therapy! I think this 'timeout' might be the right thing for Sun even though he is Not happy right now. It's hard to think clearly and rationally when you're running on a single motive, thinking this is the only way to help or do something. Moon did the right thing in making Sun sit still and take a breath.
I'm mad at Sun for all of this but I also just.... Can't be mad at him? He has every right to be doing this, his trauma and stress has been neglected so much to the point it broke him it's really not his fault for the way he's acting he's just lost genuine control because no one has been willing to help him and he hasn't tried to get help, I saw a tiktok talking about how Suns trauma is so belitted and pushed off to the side, it really frustrates me seeing how it happens so much, also, Bloodmoon had it coming, he teased Sun and sent him over his limit, I feel no remorse for him and I'm glad he's gone.
As much as I am proud of Moon taking a stand… wasn’t Eclipse heading towards the same place Moon was? So if he was… and Moon came here to confront Sun…
This episode was so sad I know moon is trying to help sun but this might just push sun more over the edge…- but I do enjoy how moon said he loved sun their brotherly love is so adorable and chaotic at the same time… 😢😅
I think that's sun is acting on his emotions which is something that Moon did in the past so maybe moon should try what's sun and try to talk him out of him instead of trapping him in a cage where he feels like he's done something wrong and and should be reassured that he's okay and it was not his fault
This reminds me of that one old episode that every one animated “the fight” and kinda ironic since it’s in the same place just the characters are flip flopped
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The fact that Moon finally admitted he loved Sun is so heart warming.He isn't usually the guy to express his emotions so him saying that made my day
He admitted it on the day when they "died" too
bro he says it on a regular basis at this point, Sun's the one who doesn't.
@@CharaAndAsrielShow Yeah..he should definitely start doing that more often
I have a huge feeling that he's going to find a way out of the magic spell that caged him in one spot. But maybe, I really hope that Sun realizes that he's probably going too far...I just hope Sun, Moon, Earth, and Lunar (+) are able to have some sort of day or 2 off of what's happening, cause they seriously need a break.
What if someone stumbles into there (via the hole monty dug awhile ago because idk if he would have actually filled it) and sun gets the idea to strike a deal with them to help him get out of the magic square?! Wait- what if it's shadow freddy that finds him??? (if anyone ever finds him there while he's stuck)
@@rnd0m437 I highly doubt that shadow Freddy would be finding sun
@@rnd0m437 shadow Bonnie. Shadow Bonnie has already made a deal by appearing randomly in glitchtraps house. It could also be balloon boy looking for batteries.
I would be more concerned that Eclipse is on his way to where Sun it trapped at Beta10
Lmao didn't earth get deleted or smth
Edit: I didn't water that episode, but their discord said it was deleted, so.
I'm so proud of Moon! He didn't know them but he understood BloodMoon wasn't able to help it! I never thought Moon would say this about Bloody and Scythe! They are gone forever because of Sun and have no chance to change because of that! *applauding*
So-
Its Sun's fault they were berating him and he snapped cuz he's not doing well mentally-?
Is what I'm gathering from this comment.
Right? Loved hearing that from him- ♡
@@SideSun Im pretty sure what Mavis is trying to say is that Moon understood why BM was the way he was, because he was exactly like them. Though Moon was able to change from his homicidal ways, BM never got the chance to, and most likely never will because Sun killed him.
Was it deserved? Yes, I can agree with Sun on that, but, at the same time, Moon is right. Sun is usually the more reasonable one out of the two, so im sure he would have somehow got through to BM and make him see the error of his ways.
@@Saydee51 question how did bloodmoon became violent part moon and sun or moon and eclipse or moon and kc moon
@@SideSun Sun still killed BloodMoon, mentally ill or not! He still caused their deaths. Sun is a killer! Face the facts!
So are we all going to ignore the fact that Sun called himself pathetic at 8:21?
That line hit hard bro.
Wow he starting to reflect or he just going crazy because that's could happen being alone for too long
I didn't ignore that. Sun always felt like that. But Moon has never seen Sun's feelings. He never acknowledged them. And it hurts... I think that Sun was planning on never going back home... after his "mission"... I think that Sun wanted to die trying to kill Eclipse... Or maybe he only wanted to kill himself... after all he acts and sounds like Eclipse... which I think Sun fully realises... And I think that Sun is afraid of himself because he feels like he's (and always was) evil... he sees himself as a monster... And he's afraid that if he'll keep being with his brothers they'll end up hurt like always... because he blames himself for everything... which sadly not many people realise...
@@katarzynamedynska1682 Exactly,and the fact that right before he killed blood moon he was trying to get help. not to mention he doesn’t know what eclipse is or what he’s capable of right now but he doesn’t care he has no self preservation, and I don’t think him being alone and self reflecting is a good idea for him right now it’s probably going to make sun feel worse
@@ivy-ghost221 exactly! ; _ ;
As much as I am happy that Moon stopped Sun, and as much as I respect that Sun is his own person who can make his own decisions and such despite his current decisions being terrible choices, I feel that a confrontation between Eclipse and Sun is inevitable. With Eclipse gaining a new body and a means of deceiving everyone around him, it’s likely that Sun will catch a slip up and possibly go feral, lol.
I also don’t think killing Eclipse will make Sun feel any better, at all. I think Sun forgets that revenge solves nothing and is only there to satisfy his selfish desire to feel like he’s making things right.
Small edit: And I understand how both sides are feeling, I have siblings, I’ve been in both positions before. Sun feels betrayed and extremely hurt that his brother is doing this to him, not understanding why Moon won’t just let him do that “one small task” of Killing Eclipse, and Moon feels exhausted and out of options, also extremely hurt by the fact that he had no choice *but* to confine Sun to that space for his own good and in the hopes that Sun will come to his senses and see that his actions are foolish
I love your pfp
@@CharaAndAsrielShow thanks!
Don't have children.
@@thequeenofdarkness-dn2pr ok...?
I’m gonna be honest, Moon did the worst thing to trap Sun in beta 10, not only because it’s a place where a chunk of suns trama is, but because Eclipse is going to beta 10 at the minute. And with Eclipse having a body, I think they will both run into each other, it will not end well if they see each other. And everyone always sees sun as an energetic and friendly animatronic which wouldent ever hurt a fly. Now Sun is actually starting to express himself and when he finally did Moon just traps him in an invisible prison which will only make Sun lose his sanity even more, At the end sun looks at his reflection and says “pathetic” obviously talking about himself. At one point he says “SCREW BEING A HERO!” Suns just fed up, he wants to express himself but nobody likes his true self. I want Sun to get out of moons prison, I just want sun to be himself for once and not force himself to be the animatronic who never would hurt a fly, he thinks he’s weak and moons making it worse.
Why can’t he do both Express his feelings but still have his happy personality
i honestly hope this trap of Moon backfires cause sun does need to express, even negatively, surpressing him with his thoughts will make this way worse than it is already but i do hope sun get a chance to at least express and then find a safier way to do it
I agree! Moon's idea of trapping Sun isn't the best choice at all! Sun is breaking, loosing his sanity and wants to help as much as possible, but Moon is like, 'nope' and traps Sun like that. He told Sun to look at himself in the mirror, as if Sun wasn't himself and obviously Moon doesn't like Sun being different. Nobody likes Sun being different. I want Sun to express his emotions more, instead of being a sitting duck, watching the commotion, listening and feeling it happen, and do nothing about it. I want Sun to fix this, and save everyone. Sun is a hero, and forever will be. The others just don't believe it yet.
Oh, wow... Really heavy stuff. And you can see how much stress both of them are under. Sun was definitely trying to hit Moon where it hurt. I hope this does work, though, and get Sun to come back to his senses. ...Also that Moon left some defenses and failsafes in place in case Eclipse comes skulking around while Sun is still immobile. It really was fitting for this to be the showdown location though.
Moon's thoughts on Bloodmoon were interesting, and they do make a lot of sense. It also makes me feel even worse for them since they themselves also admitted they had problems and hated the compulsions Eclipse programmed into them.
Also I am glad Moon got the chance to tell his brother how much he loved hom, even if his actions here had to be hash and Sun isn't in a mindset where he can believe him right now.
I agree and also I just remembered something I think I know what's eclipse plan he's going to use circus baby device the one at the wedding and an eclipse is going to reprogram it
I agree with ya on that.
Two lore videos in a row! It's been a while, and I'm very nervous-excited. :'D
Oh gosh, Beta 10 is *that* bunker! It's really has been a while since we last saw this abysmal place. How fitting for an argument between Sun and Moon...
Yeah, this episode broke my heart. It still hurts to see Moon and Sun fighting, even after all this time. I just wish Sun would calm down and *listen* to what Moon is saying- he seems so focused on the fact that everyone is telling him to stop that he won't acknowledge *why* they're telling him to! Moon is trying to *protect you,* Sun! I bet you feel stronger than ever since you killed Bloodmoon, but the truth is that your a glass pane spider-webbed with cracks, and with one tap, you'll *shatter.* And then you can never be put back together to be who you truly are.
That last statement was extremely poetic! I applaud you!
@@indodinoyoutube Thank you! :3
3:25 YES!!! finally someone addressed this! The Bloodmoons were PROGRAMED to be homicidal so they couldn't control it very well and now they can't even HAVE a redemption arc because they were murdered it's like Moon's killcode but probably way stronger since his purpose was to make Moon witness brutal murders and I personally think Moon's killcode might've a security code gone bad or something of the sort and Bloodmoons killcode was purposeful
THIS LITEATEARLY THIS!!
Am I the only one who heard what sounds like a meow before it cuts to the outro? Aside from that, I found it was nice for Moon to keep repeating I love you to Sun so Sun knows that Moon cares about him.
(Edit) I keep seeing people saying it was a cat and ye I'm aware. I found itfunny after a serious moment you just hear a meow 😂 Also when Moon said "I love you" I kept saying aw. I usually feel the emotions in the lore but this one I couldn't cause of Moon saying I live you to Sun.
I HEARD THAT TOO-
Davis couldn't keep his cat out 🤣
CAT!!!
it didn't sound like a cat. more a squeaky door
I WANT THE CAT TO FREE HIM, THAT WOULD BE HILARUOUS. WHAT IF THE CAT BECOMES PART OF SUN RAMPAGE. THAT WOULD BE HILARIOUS. ( But seriously I could imagine that there might be some cameras there. And, Moon checks one, and see’s Sun and his cat walking out.
It sounded like someone talked but idk what-
I'm starting to realize.... Sun wanting to kill Eclipse.... is basically saying that if given another chance, another choice.... He would have killed Moon if they never separated. Moon and Kill code are interchangeable back in the day. Sun thinks Moon is being unfair with a double standard right now, but by saying that Sun is just going to kill the people who hurt them and killed people..... Moon thinks he falls into that category. The last confrontation Sun described KillCode as a "sociopathic murderer living in his head." and that "he dealt with it before" ..... I don't think Sun realizes how much that those words can actually hurt his brother. Cause that's who he used to be.
I see what you mean, but I'm wondering if it was possible about Eclipse, because- well, Eclipse WAS a psychopathic murderer living in his head that could take over at any time.
I’ve never stopped what I was doing so fast before- GREAT JOB MOON!! I know sun is starting to act more like Eclipse but when you pay attention to his tone he’s starting to sound more like him too… I’m really hoping Sun spends his time reflecting and not plotting for when he’s let out…
6:22 AHHH HE SAID IT!!
8:26 I think Sun brought his cat along 🧍♀️
sunnys cat just in the background-
That's Moons problom theough, his whole lack of attention to to Sun and his trauma, stress, neglect and loneliness, self esteem, overwhelming responsibilities to the daycare, PTSD from July 16th, depression and his Insults and mistreatment of Sun didn't help either. The orginal reason he went after Sun was so Sun would be there for HIM and his emotional needs but not be there for Sun's. Moon needs to reflect on how a lost of his actions cause that and take resonabity instead of just blowing it off and treating Sun like he doest matter unless it's to Moons benifit. Words are all well and good but he never ACTS or SHOWS he means what he says or keeps his promises of being better.
or….moon brought suns cat to him…that way he wouldn’t be alone in there
I don’t see the cat 🥲
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who heard that 😭
Finally! Moon is beginning to use his mistakes as a learning experience not a hindrance! He only used them to really make a point, not get down on himself! Also, I got instant flashbacks in that bunker, but in my opinion THIS was the way Moon needed to show tough love to Sun. Also Sun is really intimidating right now, and it really well written.
Edit: Okay little correction it was good on Moon's treatment to Sun getting better, not that it is good that Eclipse is heading to Beta 10 also-
Wait, sun trapped?! HUH- also, 2 LORES IN A ROW?! This whole episode has been a huge mess, I never thought I would see Sun Act like this until now. I'm happy Moon understands that bloodmoon couldn't help how they were.
7:00 Sun calling Moon a hypocrite is the last thing I would think Sun would say -
7:23 That's precious! Even tho they were going back and forth with each other, they would still love each other. They are both doing this for one another.
8:27 Did anyone else hear a meow? That was probably Davis' cat.
8:27 Yeah, I heard a faint meow.
IM NOT GHE ONLY ONE WHO HEARD OMG
lol yeah
Cat on drugs fr
I am gonna need to re-watch this a few times because holy cow-
*Paragraph warning. Gonna be analyzing, read if you want.*
Okay. After a few re-watches, I am still winded. So much happened in just 9 minutes.
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I had a feeling Beta 10 would be the bunker. THE bunker. It also explains why Eclipse was so familiar with it, he's been there before while still inside Sun. It's almost poetic that things would unravel here. Not necessarily where everything began, but it holds a very bittersweet sentiment. "This was meant to hide from problems." Ironically, hiding from them in and of itself, IS the problem.
The fact that Sun was hesitant and asked if a trap had been set shows how on edge he is, with everyone including Moon trying to stop him. And soon as he sees his target isn't there, he's ready to go. He's getting more desperate.
"I want my brother back."
"I'm right. HERE." Sun is fed up with everyone seeing him like he is changing for the worse, or seeing him as somebody else. Identity crisis through the roof already.
"Ohh yes, that's what all those pessimistic comments of yours ALWAYS make it feel like. Right?...You have a real funny way of showing it, don't you?" I love that Sun brought this up. It's obvious that Moon isn't the best with emotions, that much is clear. And sadly, it has had an effect on Sun, who is EXTREMELY emotionally-driven. Right now, he is driven by anger. He's tired of Moon's "talks" because he knows they will lead to nowhere, so why bother sticking around?
"Let me clue you in a little bit, Moon. You don't know JACK about me, right now. You really don't." Sun is right, in a way. Moon really doesn't know much about Sun, and this is due to the severe lack of communication between the two. 'Sun doesn't lie, Sun is the good one, Sun is the happy one'. Moon might have noticed behavioral changes in Sun, but he didn't see how far it'd gone until it was too late.
"Going on a homicidal rampage...You killed Blood Moon!" Odd, coming from Moon. When did one death become a "rampage"?
"HE...was someone, that DESERVED IT!!!" I knew that would be Sun's reasoning. BM was someone Sun saw who deserved what they got (and let's be fair they had it coming). Sun sounds fed up with having to defend himself. And it's odd, hearing Moon defend Blood Moon. Considering we as the audience know how BM's and Sun's last exchange went down. Regardless, something about it doesn't sit right with me. Even though Moon does have a point. Whether or not BM could've been capable of changing for the better, I have no idea honestly. The way Moon explains it to Sun, though, it's like he is trying to get Sun to be aware of his actions, or get him to "wake up".
"Did anything bad happen besides Lunar leaving? What, did I hurt his feelings a little bit too hard?"
"Boy, that sure sounds like Sun and not Eclipse!"
Not gonna lie, I gasped when Moon said this. Now, someone else is comparing Sun to Eclipse. Which is definitely not what Sun wants or needs to hear, considering the next thing he says is for Moon to get out of the way. Honestly, I'm rooting for bitter Sun. Let him be bitter.
"What, gonna beat me up again?...We're in the same place anyways!" I LOVE THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT UP. It shows that what happened STILL affects Sun to this day! Moon may have apologized for punching Sun, but that doesn't take away the pain and shock of what happened. And even then, Sun is still so desperate to try and help Moon. "I'm trying to PROTECT you. I'm trying to HELP, in SOME way!"
"I'm not gonna beat you up, because I don't need to. You forget WHAT you are, and what I know how to do." This also didn't sit right with me. It feels very controlling. Moon is so desperate to keep Sun that his desire for control is slipping through. And using the word "what" also sounds very dehumanizing and demeaning, even if that's not what Moon meant.
"I'm gonna have to do something that I probably don't wanna do!" I know this is in reference to Eclipse's deal. In Moon's defense, he does have a lot on his plate. His deal with KC, the schematics from Solar Flare, and Eclipse's deal. He's busy with his own stuff, and yes, Sun's actions do make things difficult. If Moon does decide to accept Eclipse's deal, Sun can't get involved.
Moon doesn't want to lose Sun. He's losing him emotionally and mentally, but at the very least he can keep him physically, by keeping him in the bunker. I do worry that trapping him via magic will only worsen things. I think Sun still has that "Magic for Dummies" book Moon gave him, so he might be able to get himself out.
"Sun, I love you. You are my brother. I care about you. And I want us both safe as much as the next person. But you killing people is not gonna help us."
"Sure...sure...sure...get out..." Sun muttering this while Moon talks shows just how DONE he is. I also feel like he actually has had doubts about whether or not Moon cares about him. "I'm tired of your semantics already, there is nothing else for you to tell me, either get out, or just shut. up."
"You're a hypocrite...you're such a hypocrite..." He isn't wrong. In Sun's eyes, Moon is acting like a hypocrite.
"Yeah, go ahead and pout." I can't blame Moon for feeling frustrated, he couldn't reach through to his brother a second time, but the fact that he calls it "pouting", left me feeling iffy. Still seeing his brother in a childish way.
"Now I have to go pick a deal, and that'll result in one of the people you want to kill being gone." Moon sees this as a way of helping Sun. He has the means of taking out either Eclipse or KC, without his brother's involvement. But this is him once again shouldering everything, making things his responsibility. Making Sun feel useless even more, as he turns away from Moon not wanting to even look at him.
"I'll get out...I'll get out..." Certainly sounds like both a promise and wishful thinking. Sun is determined and desperate enough to want to reach his goal, he'll do just about anything. Let's just hope in the meantime he doesn't develop claustrophobia. It's also worth mentioning he is now trapped inside the place where a good chunk of his trauma took place...
"...You're pretty pathetic, aren't you?" He says to his own reflection. He knows he's reached a low point, and he knows no one around him likes it. No one likes how he's handling things. Especially with all the comparisons between him and Eclipse. To the point of self-loathing. It's telling he acknowledges it, though.
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aight, analysis done for now. I'll likely add more if other thoughts arise. Hope you enjoyed the read if you made it this far
We're all gonna need to take at least 50 years to process this Ninja ✋😭
@@SideSun lmao
BEEG WALL OF TEXT I LIKE EYYEEYEYYEY
Text walls like this are why I bother reading the comments.
I'm so happy that there are more people taking Suns side. Like okay, Moons not exactly WRONG and Sun isnt exactly doing the right thing, but EVEYTHING that we've been seeing with Sun even before BloodMoons death HAS BEEN BUILDING UP.
As much as we needed to focus on Moon and his issues, especially once KillCode came back, Sun hasnt recieved one break or recuperation SINCE ECLIPSE MANIFESTED. And again, Moon makes good points and Sun certainly needs to time out and calm down, but good god it's really troubling seeing people, in and out of the show, acting like Sun is "going through a villian arc".
Sun is DESPERATE. Sun is HURTING. Sun HATES HIMSELF. And Sun HASNT HAD ANYONE SUPPORTING HIM. And sure, Moon has tried, but as we've seen since BloodMoon died, Moon hasnt actually been letting Sun really express what he needed to. THATS the tradegy of this arc. Sun ISNT BECOMING ECLIPSE, his family is just convinced he is. And now hes having to lash out because no one let's him do what HE thinks will fix it, and instead tries to stop him while they haven't actually fixed anything.
The issue of this arc (besides the actual homicidal maniacs ofc) is one of repressed emotions and lack of communication. What is gonna fix this is communicating and FINALLY LETTING IT ALL OUT.
#SunNeedsTherapy
@@juliewhite5085 Holy sweet bjesus you are a billion percent correct.
Okay at 8:26 listen to the sound after Sun sighs. I could have sworn I heard his cat. The Cat has followed him
AS FOR THE REST OF THIS VIDEO THIS IS THE MOST TIMES MOON HAS SAID HE LOVES HIS BROTHER AND I AM HERE FOR IT!! I love when Moon uses magic cause it shows how freaking BOSS he can be. I had chills when he said LOCK. Love how Moon doesn't need to say much when casting spells.
Now Sun is the equivalent of having his nose in the corner until he's thought about what hes done. I hope this helps Sun.
Moon really did put Sun in the timeout corner.
If Sun is anything like I used to be when I was little, timeout will just cause more rage and aggression. I didn't reflect when someone told me to. I had to do it on my own. And I'm sure Sun will be the same way.
But at least he isn't roaming around unhinged ig.
I am so worried about sunny! I understand that this was necessary, though it might make them go a bit more crazy, but it’s better than having crazy sun on the loose, I really hope sun and moon can figure this out. They’ve gone through so much and I hope that soon everything will go back to normal for them.
Yeah leaving sun to himself doesn't really sound like a good idea, yeah on one had there's room to reflect on what he's doing, but this will probably make him think more bad thoughts too
Yeah,a TEENIE WEENIE,bit. Just a LITTLE BITSY BIT. DEFINETLY won't piss him off more!Noooo.... Why would you say that...
Now I was not expecting this. After the last lore video, I expected moon to maybe take a break for a bit. I can’t help but be disappointed sun is doing this, but I understand how mad he is. He thinks he’s never done anything for his brother, but when he simply exists, THAT is what you’re doing for your brother.
SUN👏NEEDS👏THERAPY
Edit: That’s it. Bloody is gone for good. Maybe he was a problem, but he’ll always be deep in our hearts. ❤R.I.P our smol vampire❤
👏SUN👏NEEDS👏THERAPY👏
WE'RE GIVING THERAPY
Sun need so much therapy mabye but let’s hope they are going to be a happy family again
I MISS BLOODMOON SO MUCH 😭😭 I LOVE THEM SO MUCH PLS S.A.M.S MAKE THEM ALIVE AGAIN-
They all need therapy
I saw the title and immediately freaked out. Oh moon... Sun is so gonna hate you for this...
OHH SUNS IN TIME OUT!!!
6:23 MOON SAID THE THING! HE SAID THE THING!
Sun villain arc?
YES MOON SAID IT!!!!!! @6:23
YESSSSS
Yes he will hate moon for that hope so also he hates being compared to eclipse
2:18 mad e me laugh cuz sun said "GET OF ME" 🤣😭
Same sun said GeT OF MeH
This is the first time crying on this show because it reminds me of my childhood trama but 5:38 made me laugh and can't stop replaying that part-
Hopefully sun gets a lot of therapy ima hugging my sun plushie so much and never let them go, sun I really really really hope you get therapy your my favorite character in this show! Hope you guys feel better!
3:33 "he. Was someone who deserved it."
"Who couldn't control it!!"
This really broke my heart.. Moon has a point, BloodMoon was just doing what he was programmed to do. He was a good boy who followed orders.. he was basically like a misunderstood child.. correction. They *were* misunderstood children.
3:49 "the difference is that you changed. He never-" "he couldn't change!! HE'S DEAD!!!"
Once again Moon is right.. if they'd of kept him alive perhaps Moon could've done something about his programming.. perhaps Bloody could've joined the good team but now they're gone for good..
So much stuff going on! Wow! It’s hard to miss an episode of the Sun and Moon Show
Right on 😅😅😅😅
Agreed! 🥺🥺🥺
Oh no Sun is trapped by Moon in VRCHAT!
Wow I wonder how this is gonna go..
Hello Sun and Moon Show, hope you guys are very well, just wanted too say this too Sun:(The Invisible Davis) and Moon:(EC_UNIVERSAL) thank you for your personality and content and support, it's been a blast seeing Sun and Moon reactions on gaming videos and the VR's like it's been amazing so thank you so so much, and Sun and Moon Show if you get this reply can I plz hug you guys, I would love a hug, I would appreciate it, love ya guys so so much, your channel is the best!
0:05 I noticed the mat on the floor and then I had a closer look and it's that place again, Moon hasn't been there in a while..
0:22 or 0:23 YAY IT'S SUN ^^
0:33 oh no Sun has noticed Moon, ow this is gonna be good!
2:18 OH NO, MOON GET OF OFF HIM BEFORE IT GET'S WORSE!!!!!
8:20 I feel bad for Sun just standing there waiting top get out!
And I was stressed out today and I wanted Sun and Moon Show too do VR today and they did, wow your so great Sun and Moon!!
A new S.A.M.S episode AND A NEW HELLUVA BOSS EPISODE IN ONE DAY!! Best day so far of this month
Thank god I read this because I didn't notice there was a new HB episode
The part where Sun just hit his face into the invisible barrier is funny 😭 * bonk *
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT HOW MOON MADE A PUN AT 6:00 ?????
BAHAHAHAH
I hope Sun doesn't stay isolated long- And I hope he and Moon will be able to talk soon... I wonder if he was lying about hearing anything though... AND WHO'S TAKING CARE OF THE KIT!?
Earth, she loves all nature so I bet she will take nice care of the lil kitty :)
@@ordinarystranger6667 I would think that but didn't they basically write her out (Intro wise) because of issues with the model's creator so they have to make a new intro for her meaning she isn't there yet?
@@flowerchild7027 Oh yeah that’s right, they might redo the earth episode or something idk
@@flowerchild7027 the two lore videos right after the Earth one alluded to Earth and the interactions a few times meaning that it still happened. She just won’t have that design.
@@_.hybrids._1680 yeah, someone was saying that the Solar Flare episode was them trying to retcon, but I checked the episodes before and after and they're still acting like Earth is in the daycare.
"Nothing happened to me. I've always been like this. You're just seeing it for the first time." -Sayori
Jestem szczęśliwa, że Moon w końcu powiedział Sun'owi, że go kocha i troszczy się o niego. Niestety martwi mnie to co zrobił... zamykając go samego jest dość duża szansa, że stan Sun się pogorszy zamiast się polepszyć. Współczuję tej dwójce
English please
You can use translate.
English bro english
What zuszab said was: I'm happy that moon finally told sun that he loves and cares for him. Unfortunately, I'm worried about what he did... locking hin up alone, there's a pretty good chance that sun's condition will get worse instead of better. I sympathize with these two
Yep me too probably will get worse then better
Moon saying "I love you, Sun" is just so perfect. It shows just how much Moon really loves Sun
I loved this so much- I love the lore expanding-
0:57 and I especially this part-
i wasnt expecting a lore video after another lore video. hopefully Sun sits there and really thinks about what he's doing. especially after killing Bloodmoon.
The fact we had a lore episode after another lore episode- ITS A JACKPOT FOR ME!! THIS MUST BE VERY INTERESTING-
Ok so imagine this,
You killed someone in self defense who was pretending to be your brother, you find out that a person who forcefully took over your body for months is still alive and planning something shortly after what made your brother kill people is around and is collaborating with the same guy who’s been torturing you. Now you have reason to believe that the psychopaths are going to hurt you or your friends and family, so you want to kill one of them because you do not feel safe. Your brother wants to stop you because he believes that you aren’t acting like yourself. Your brother has a box or set of behaviors that you can’t leave or stray away from or else he will try to force you back into it. Your brother also try’s to say you shouldn’t of killed that person in self defense because they couldn’t control it. Now please remember you are one of two people in this weird ass family that ISNT a serial killer or a person who has attempted what essentially amounts to genocide.
So your brother basically paralyzes you and leaves you in solitary confinement, which (if it lasts for more than 15 days), is torture and a very very fucked up thing to do yo someone who you apparently love. I’m sorry but what moon did and is doing is not a justifiable way to treat someone. Sun needed to be stopped yes, he was a danger to himself and others, but moon didn’t need to leave him in a concrete underground bunker alone. He could of had Monty stay with him, or found a way to move him back to the daycare, or not of just left him there.
Try standing still for 30 minutes with nothing to listen to or do. Sun is very obviously having a mental breakdown and is not is a stable state of mind. Being completely alone with only his thoughts can only make this situation worse for him.
Bloodmoon was threatening sun and in the episode (or one before) he says to the other one that they want to torture sun. Sun has been forced to be a voice of a reason and NO ONE ever considers that maybe, just maybe, not being allowed to express any form of aggression or anger or upset has a negative impact on someone. Moon is allowed to be aggressive and angry, Eclipse can be angry and try to kill everyone, kill codes entire existence is being a murderer, but that second Sun is even a little more aggressive than usual he’s ‘turning into eclipse’ which is bullshit.
Sun shouldn’t act the way he did towards lunar, that was extremely unjustified and bad and I will not argue that, but how is moon better than sun? Killing eclipse isn’t a bad thing to do. He’s not going to give up on trying to hurt sun and moon as long as he’s alive. I don’t think he can be redeemed because 1. He tried to kill EVERYONE and 2. He doesn’t want to change.
Sun shouldn’t of been trapped the way he was and I don’t get how people can watch this and think ‘yes good job moon’. Anything short of murder is better than what moon does in this episode. Sun needed to be stoped but why like this? This wasn’t a reasonable thing to do and it’s not a reasonable way to treat anyone.
"You're pretty pathetic, aren't you?" sobbing screaming dying
With every lore episode I get more and more worried about Sun because if he doesn’t stop this he’s gonna lose everyone around him...
THIS IS GETTING SO DRAMATIC I LOVE IT
I live for the drama
I LOVE IT AND HATE IT AT THE SAME TIME
I love but hate this series 😞 I JUST HATE SEEING THEM ACT DIFFERENTLY BUT AT THE SAME TIME MMMMM TEA 🍵
We need earth to help with eclipse now
After this is sorted out (Sun not on a murderous rampage and back at the daycare), Sun needs at least 3 therapy episodes and then everyone needs therapy with a LICENCED therapist, not just talking with Monty or another anamatronic, a LICENCED HUMAN therapist. This is what needs to happen but probably won't and I am sad because of it...
You and me both.....
This gives a new meaning to the word "sunblock". Lol.
LMAO
Bloodmoon threaten Sunrise! I still claim it as self defence.
I thought about it for a bit…
The Bloodmoons seem to be highly smart from having transferred themselves in a little body until later on making the deal with Lunar and getting their nano machine body,and having turned off the failsafe that Eclipse made for them during their origin. Moon confirmed that they have no backup nor anything but… what if they do have a backup? Their little body is still around so they could just use that or they possibly cloned so their other clone is still around there. They’re still a Moon so… they do have a very low probability of still being around since they are smart. I still wanna have high hopes that they’ll come back, NGL I am hoping that they’re gonna make an appearance in the accident day (that certain July) whether they are talked about or literally come back. But for right now R.I.P BloodMoon you two were a very scary kind of adorable.
Also I am highly scared of the fact that Eclipse and Sun are going to be meeting each other. I hope it doesn’t go horribly wrong.
Yes moon!! I feel like sun will get better moon or Monty needs to scan sun and see what’s going on with him if eclipses code is still there or something like that!
8:27 I heard a cat
Moon understanding that blood moon couldn't help it or control it is actually amazing. It hurts me seeing sun like this 🥺
. . .Wow, we have really come a loooooong way, I remember seeing this bunker back in what, July? Jesus christ-
Also, Sun has completely lost it.
Even though he hasn't done anything yet besides kill BM, i'm sure he was ready to do more killing, even if it wasn't Eclipse. But, I'm extremely thankful that Moon was able to trap him and is still trying to do whatever he can to get through to his brother.
Also, 6:22. . .😭🤍
July 16th~I can't even look at sun the same anymore. It's almost the same person then as now, I'm disappointed.
I’m glad Moon put Sun in time out as well! Sun needs to calm down to realize he is ruining his life by doing what he’s doing. It’s so sad that he doesn’t care to be a hero! It makes it sound he’d be happy becoming a villain which would make his broken family very sad. It was beautiful that Moon reminded Sun that even in his upset state, he still loves his brother! Sun was too much of a brat to listen still. Yet maybe, hopefully Sun being stuck there will make Sun realize he doesn’t want to be evil and rather work with his family instead of against his family! It’s so sad because Sun used to be so worried for Lunar, and now he had managed to make Lunar afraid of him! That is gonna time so much time to reverse! I’m glad Moon stood up for BloodMoon even though he didn’t know them. He still understood they were trapped by their programming. Moon is just as guilty as BloodMoon for killings. And even though Sun killed a bad individual, that doesn’t erase that he had killed. Sun is a killer, he has to deal with the aftermath of that! And I can only guess that possibly Sun is haunted by the blood brothers yet has believed he had ignored them the whole time. Seriously if it’s been several days from Sun running away, and not going home from his own fears such as night time darkness; then it’s probably some lingering aggression that the blood brothers have with wanting Eclipse dead. So if Sun is haunted by BloodMoon, then I can argue that he would have more of a fighting chance! BloodMoon are a skilled fighter and will protect themselves. Yet I’m sure they would want to fight their abuser pretty dirty to finish the unfinished fight from before!
8:02 no sun, he does understand. he understands too well, and that’s why he’s doing it.
Just gotta say Sun is going through a mix of self deprecation, need for "justice", and a WHOLE bunch of other things
Sun has a problem where he wants to prove himself and just- put an end to all this stress. He also has a point in how Moon treats him, while Moon doesn't mean to, he really contributes quite a bit to Sun's self-worth issues, but at the same time Sun never said that he wasnt okay with it. I only just now think Moon realizes how his words have impacted sun
Okay so, I have a head canon/hunch of what I think might happen, what if something happens and moon leaves sun in the prison for years because moon just forgot that his brother was there, remembers, and comes back to see sun in like and almost insane state of mind? I think it would be pretty cool if like Daybreaker spawned from that and sun is like almost eclipse looking, but instead of orange and black, its red or purple and black with like bigger rays or more rays. I'm not saying that this is what will happen exactly, but I think it would be cool if it did happen and we get some kind of villain arc for sun while moon has to try to figure out how to get his brother back to normal. (An idea I had at like 3 AM so sorry if its bad)
Sun didn't sound like he was reflecting on his actions towards the end, but I'm hoping he'll cool down a bit. I understand his anger and desire to hurt Eclipse. He feels responsible, he wants to help Moon like Moon helped him, and feels useless when he can't help or when someone stops him. It is also possible that deep down he thinks that others consider him too incompetent to help, to which he subconsciously begins to react with aggression. Sun just wants to help, he has taken the most radical measures he can and has lost himself in it. He was consumed by hatred and a thirst for revenge. It's hard to be surprised by him....
Oh, poor Moon. Poor *everyone* honestly. I feel so bad for everyone and words can’t even express how bad I feel for everyone! I wish they could finally get a well-deserved break. Poor things.
Sun doesn’t like looking at himself in the mirror. Much like Moon hated looking at himself, Sun hates looking himself in the eye now. That’s proof enough that he has guilt, he’s seeing himself as a monster and he truly felt something after he killed BM. When the bloody twins were taunting him, Sun heard Eclipse. He didn’t think he was talking too two separate people but, he thought he was talking to someone he has already tried to get through too, Eclipse. When Moon said that he killed BM, Sun hesitated. You could tell he is having a harder time justifying himself killing BM. Sun is cracking, Moon is getting through to him, that’s why Sun told Moon to shut up or leave. Moon is slowly chipping away at this shell of hatred, revenge and pain that Sun has put around himself. Moon, I think you need to stay by Sun’s side but, you’re going to need to be patient. Do not push him to reveal his emotions and just sit quietly by. Sun has a habit of talking to himself out loud, he doesn’t like silence when there is someone to talk to, he might let something finally slip. When he does, gently push the subject, don’t force him. Get him to think about what you’re saying and sooner or later, Sun will probably crack. Let him vent, it’s not going to be pleasant but, he needs it. Give Sun gentle reminders that you love him and you want to support him. Give him that insurance that you will always and forever be there. You just have to be patient. Sun is probably going to say some stuff that isn’t very fun to hear when you are sitting there but, this is him venting as well. A question that you could ask, when you believe it is the right time to do so, is what is Sun planning on doing after he kills Eclipse. This will get him thinking because, I don’t think he even knows what he’s really going to do after he kills Eclipse. Sun never truly denied that you know him the best, Moon. Only that you don’t know him the best right now. Sun knows you are the only one that can talk reason to him, that’s why he wanted you to leave. You need to go back to him once you make your decision on the deal. For one, you can make sure Sun doesn’t find a way out of his invisible box and two, so you can catch something he might say to himself. Encourage that it’s okay to let your emotions out, just in a lot more healthier ways than, murder. I don’t think Sun truly wants to do this to an extent, more that he feels he has to. Suns resolve is cracking and you are going to have be the one to give the final hit as well as, be the one to help pick up the pieces. You got this, Mooney!
7:07 that’s the first time I see him cross his arms
This was the most I've ever heard Moon say "I love you" in a Sun and Moon Show episode before. ;w;
It’s so heartbreaking.
I really hope things will get better soon .. :(
It really hurt to see Sun like this.
*sobbing*
Damn. This angst vid made me actually cry.
This is probably the episode that solidified my opinion of Moon, the phrase "I'm not gonna beat you up, because I don't need to do that" Is- wow
Honestly, I understand what Sun is doing, and I get what he’s trying to accomplish. Eclipse is a bot that has physically and emotionally and mentally hurt Sun a lot, and he thinks Moon is assisting in Eclipse still being allowed to live by not doing anything. I think Sun needs help, and to reflect, but I do understand. I hope Sun gets better, weather it’s through passive, or not so passive ways.
“You’re pretty pathetic aren’t you?” RIGHT AT THE END, THAT IS ECLIPSES VOICE
No I think it was more like a muffled sun voice
It's an extreme measure, but I understand why Moon used the "lock" spell on Sun. Sun needs a timeout to hopefully think things through. BUT now Sun is trapped while Eclipse is on his way to Beta10! Hopefully, he'll run into Moon instead of going into the bunker.
I don't even want to know what will happen if Eclipse goes into Beta 10...
Moon, make him listen to "Nothing Left To Lose" from the Rapunzel cartoon- Seems fitting atm w/ Sun being Cassandra and you maybe being Varian
8:11 ...Did anyone hear how Sun sighed here? Sounds like a demon. 😰
Moon had made a really good point out about Bloodmoon with Sun, the twins were brought into something they didn’t care about and had this uncontrollable urge to do what they did. I still often think to that video where they first discover Eclipse making a back-up in them, the one where they roam Chinatown and wonder why they had this urge to kill and thirst for blood. I was so hopeful for them in that moment to have some form of redemption or something, but then came that moment Sun killed them. When that happened, Killcode expressed a sense of grief when he lost them, kind of says a lot if you think about it.
Sun is trying to do this within good reason, yes, but his behavior/attitude is no longer the cheery Sun we once knew and loved. I agree with the rest of the comments here, he definitely needs therapy, but seeing how things have been going.. therapy session is gonna take a long while. If Eclipse appears now, Sun is gonna be very livid and drama is gonna definitely kick off.
(It’s been ages since we’ve seen this bunker, boy.. some tense and emotional moments were had there in the past, and now we got another that’s recent added to the pile.)
Holy shit! Was not expecting that, but to be fair, what Moon did was reasonable. Sun is losing himself to homicide, I just hope the boys are gonna be ok
Moon also lost himself to homicide at one point, are we not going to remember how hypocritical this was of Moon?
@@SideSun yeah, but Moon managed to steer away from it and change. Not sure it’ll be the same story for Sun
yeah but we herar that ecileps was going to beta 10 so there is 6 chense ecilips hurt sun realy bad
ecileps going into sun again
sun kiling/hurting ecilips but l dont think sun can even tuch him do to the fact that he is trept
ecilips just standing there and madeding sun insene
ecileps making sun free with some kind of secrefize
or ecileps can act like slor flare
or just see moon in the way of beta 10
8:27 you can here someone laugh very softly in the background before the end card
Lol
That was a cat
Sun took the cat with him lol
Me:*sees the title*
Me after:I KNEW IT WOULD COME TO THIS.
I honestly am not gonna be surprised if Sun lets Eclipse take over, not caring who he hurts till he possibly nearly kills Moon or Lunar, Roxanne or even Monty, and then realizes what he is doing is wrong. Sure hope Sun comes to reason soon......Before its too late...
The only person that can die out of that list is lunar but they won’t let that happen they cannot kill Off Canon characters
what? Sun letting his abuser take over?.. I dont get it..
@@rainpuppy14 Bloodmoon technically was close to being canon and Eclipse as well. It's still very possible but due to them being programs, there is a chance that somewhere there is copy codes of all of them hidden someplace in case they need it.
@@VTFpersonal I mean look how sun's acting now, he isnt even his cheerful happy self, not anywhere near it, its very possible at this rate.
@@zeldagamelover24 well, you need to see where Sun is coming from, just like Moon and Lunar, he suffered trauma too, yet unlike the two, he never got someone to talk to, mush less someone who could listen and not judge him..
Sun carries anger from the past, his actions are the effect of being abused and feeling useless, so much so that now he cant stand to watch Moon lose his mind for a 3rd time..
yes, his way to get revenge are not ideal, since he doesnt ever have a weapong, but its not suddent nor a mistery why he is doing this..
Moon: I want my brother back.
Sun: I'm. Right. HERE.
But you need therapy, Sun. You're not yourself. ;-;
Sun really need therapy. Moon alr got therapy 3 times
LAMO😂
For real he needs therapy
@@FlipFlop5828 yes i totally agree with you😌
@@ieatpeacefullylikeitstheen3068 yes
Neither brother is listening to the other. I know Moon has good intentions but he's a bit oblivious to how Sun is feeling. There's a lot going on and as much as he wants to understand, he's not asking the right questions. Instead of wondering why Sun is doing this for him, he needs to ask why Sun thinks he needs to be 'useful' and why he currently doesn't feel useful, I think that might help. I swear, I get more worried, the more I hear Sun's angry voice because now he's starting to sound just like Eclipse in tone and pitch. I keep expecting him to say something that fully breaks his relationship with Moon and tips him into the evil category but the little self deprecating jab at the end really drives home that it's not as simple as good and evil.
"Wow the rug's a bomb your dead!" Love how moon can make me laugh even though theirs lore.
I'm a little scared of what might happen since eclipse has a body for him and he knows how to use magic and Sun is trapped, I'm scared Eclipse will do something to Sun because he's trapped😥
It all went from Moon calmy trying to reason with Sun, to the point of locking him in a invisible square
I mean, that's a good way to do that, for now, Sun's stuck, and either losing his mind slowly, or recovering
Only time will tell
I think with Eclipse getting a new body and everything else that's going is making Sun go insane as he wants to help Moon and get revenge but revenge won't solve anything. Sun has basically almost lost it because of everything that is happening and Sun just is trying to keep himself from going insane and trying to help but only fail on keeping himself from going insane..
Sunny and moony look like they need all the hugs and maybe when we see lunar again we could all hug him
WELL THIS SEEMS INTERESTING.
IM BUZZING THIS EPISODE IS GONNA BE GOOD.
Sun sounds like Eclipse. His voice gets deeper. This video hits so hard
My theory of Bloodmoon not being dead has been updated.
I believe that because of the spell lunar casted to give Bloodmoon his body instead of putting him into the body like Monty did with Lunars body, that it saved him. The spell was most likely reversed after all the nanos in the body got destroyed by the canon and turned back into the small body he had when they first met Lunar. We most likely did not see this because they most likely blasted into the wall near the theater on the upper floor outside the daycare. All the magic they had was all in the nano body, but now that it's destroyed, they can't teleport home to the base. They were too nervous to go near the daycare, so they hid in the theater until they knew Sun was gone. I like to think that between that time that no one's at the daycare, a provider for Lunars bean bag factory is on the phone with Monty going over the property which is really old so it's really rat infested. Bloodmoon would overheard this but not care a huge amount until they heard it was, in fact, lunars and hear the location. So they went there for 3 reasons, 1: to eat the rats. 2: it's a safe place, and no one would ever expect them to be there, so it's a very good hiding spot. 3: they could finally reunite with Lunar if he decides to finally check out the factory of that location because Bloodmoon has missed Lunar more than they want to admit. Maybe lunar might go there, and my theory will be correct.
If my theory becomes canon, I will literally lose my mind, and I had to think so much about all the element like where they could be, how they could have survived and it makes sense to me, I hope this theory makes sense to everyone who reads this theory of mine.
we gotta love the fact that sun still needs therapy
Moon u gotta get him in therapy
everyone
👏SUN👏NEEDS👏THERAPY👏
Sun!!! Needs!!!! Therapy!!!!!
That’s an understatement, everybody on the show needs therapy, A LOT OF THERAPY
true
“The rugs a bomb! You’re dead!”
I know it’s meant to be a serious episode but damn 😂
They had the chance to make Sun's development even better but no *INVISIBLE PRISON*
I feel like trapping Sun is a good idea bc who knows what was bound to happen if he got to Eclipse. Idk if it's just me, but I feel like this isn't actually Sun, the whole time, I've felt like his overflowing emotions were fully in control and not the actual Sun there's supposed to be. IMMA ACTUALLY BE SCARED IF HE MANAGES TO ESCAPE 😭😭😭☠☠
I've never been so impatient for the next episode. Please hurry 😫 😩 😭
im crying... im in tears right now... moons off to make a deal, suns trapped... and hes been left alone... and i heard what sounded to be eclipses voice around the end of the video... i can only pray that this will all be resolved soon...
My personal theory is that Sun is going to dig his way out of the trap bc moon might not have thought to put a force field below him and Monty already dug through that area once showing it is possible for animatronics to do so and Sun is currently just unhinged enough to pull it off, even if he is less strong than Monty. I mean, he was strong enough to drag Lunar to Golden Freddy’s and was able to push Monty into a wall, so it’s not impossible.
WAIT I REMEMBER THAT DETAIL oh my gosh you have a point!
There’s one little problem with that idea Monty has claws that’s how he was able to dig Sun doesn’t have claws
But he does have rays on his head that are made of metal. It’s possible he’d use those, but he might not go that far. Your opinion really got me thinking! Thanks for adding on!
Moon just expressing his feelings to sun and saying I love you is so wholesome 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Sun is trapped in Beta 10…Moon is leaving Beta 10…
Eclipse is on his way to Beta 10…
*This is not going to end well.*
Yes for sure am just waiting for the cautious here such interesting to know and fun to watch can't wait to see that
No, no it is not...
I remember perfectly the last time they've been here and now I realized the difference between now and before it's deeper then I thought, way WAY deeper. I hardly recognized Sun and that hurt my soul, I'm just happy and proud Moon has changed for the better. The one time I saw a sparkle of hope, that I DID recognized Sun even if only slightly was. at the very end of the video when he said under his breath "you're pretty pathetic aren't you?" looking straight at his reflection
Sun and Moon NEED family therapy! I think this 'timeout' might be the right thing for Sun even though he is Not happy right now. It's hard to think clearly and rationally when you're running on a single motive, thinking this is the only way to help or do something. Moon did the right thing in making Sun sit still and take a breath.
sun :how am i meant to get out of this
Moon:thats the neat part you arent 😄
I'm mad at Sun for all of this but I also just.... Can't be mad at him? He has every right to be doing this, his trauma and stress has been neglected so much to the point it broke him it's really not his fault for the way he's acting he's just lost genuine control because no one has been willing to help him and he hasn't tried to get help, I saw a tiktok talking about how Suns trauma is so belitted and pushed off to the side, it really frustrates me seeing how it happens so much, also, Bloodmoon had it coming, he teased Sun and sent him over his limit, I feel no remorse for him and I'm glad he's gone.
Ooooof. Sun just coldly turning away is... rough
As much as I am proud of Moon taking a stand… wasn’t Eclipse heading towards the same place Moon was?
So if he was… and Moon came here to confront Sun…
Yup...
And I am not looking forward to what's gonna happen when Eclipse gets there.
Mirrored sun and moon looks terrifying
Alternate title: Moon put Sun in time out
"Wow, the rugs a bomb your dead!" had me dead
it's also heartbreaking seeing them fight💔💔💔
This episode was so sad I know moon is trying to help sun but this might just push sun more over the edge…- but I do enjoy how moon said he loved sun their brotherly love is so adorable and chaotic at the same time… 😢😅
Moon is an awful brother. He literally put his brother in isolation while he’s having a mental breakdown.
I think that's sun is acting on his emotions which is something that Moon did in the past so maybe moon should try what's sun and try to talk him out of him instead of trapping him in a cage where he feels like he's done something wrong and and should be reassured that he's okay and it was not his fault
When moon said "sun I love you" MY HEART WARMED SO MUCH!
I love that It was friendly at first then it turns to drama😭
This reminds me of that one old episode that every one animated “the fight” and kinda ironic since it’s in the same place just the characters are flip flopped