George RR Martin on Sex and Violence in Game of Thrones

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  • Опубликовано: 24 окт 2024

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  • @ArmandtheWise
    @ArmandtheWise 6 лет назад +935

    Can you imagine how butchered the story would have been if it aired on ABC or NBC instead?

    • @shortstuff780
      @shortstuff780 6 лет назад +80

      Jesus. I can only imagine. The wildfire epicness of Cersei would have been mentioned not shown. tommen would have been mentioned in passage that he ran away. Aryas time in Bravo's would have been happy.
      Ned would still be alive and the red wedding wouldn't have happened

    • @anasss1197
      @anasss1197 6 лет назад +50

      @@shortstuff780 and it would've been like every other boring tv show, no surprises no nothing

    • @moseszero3281
      @moseszero3281 6 лет назад +5

      I saw Desperado on USA network one time. It was 7 min long.

    • @kungmatte7
      @kungmatte7 6 лет назад +49

      Lmao, the story is butchered enough as it is. Season 5 and forward has been an abomination compared to season 1 to 4, when the show was actually good, even though they butchered my boy Stannis in those seasons too.

    • @subutaynoyan5372
      @subutaynoyan5372 6 лет назад +7

      The show had butchered the story spectacularly with its current network anyway.
      Ever since season 3, they started to cut off insane amounts of story and with season 4 and 5, you can count on that they discluded more than half of the storyline, and completely ruined the parts they had included.

  • @LastGleaming8
    @LastGleaming8 6 лет назад +324

    i miss when he wrote episodes. some of his are the best of the show

    • @daredevil3979
      @daredevil3979 5 лет назад +7

      Which ones did he write

    • @FyuyuR
      @FyuyuR 5 лет назад +26

      I'm pretty sure he wrote the Purple Wedding one (4x02 - Joffrey's death). Not sure about the others, there must be like three or four more. You'll have no trouble finding the other ones with a quick google search though.

    • @SuperCosty2010
      @SuperCosty2010 5 лет назад +27

      @@daredevil3979 The Battle of Blackwater for instance, 2x09. I'm not remembering which else

    • @bigboylad1253
      @bigboylad1253 5 лет назад +26

      @@daredevil3979 He wrote season 1 episode 8, season 2 episode 9, season 3 episode 7, season 4 episode 2.

    • @mutoneon
      @mutoneon 5 лет назад +32

      s1e8 "The Pointy End"
      s2e9 "Blackwater"
      s3e7 "The Bear and the Maiden Fair"
      s4e2 "The Lion and the Rose"

  • @zakarihandsman4100
    @zakarihandsman4100 5 лет назад +250

    The White Walkers who have existed for eons, can raise the dead to fight for them and nearly wiped out Humanity once before are dead. Now it's time to face our true enemy a snarky drunk woman.

    • @freakonaleash8848
      @freakonaleash8848 5 лет назад +10

      Fuck the show

    • @carlostrump9076
      @carlostrump9076 5 лет назад +1

      Zakari Handsman who has the iron fleet and 10k soldiers

    • @ezcoreg759
      @ezcoreg759 5 лет назад +2

      @@carlostrump9076 18k-20k in the Golden company alone and the Lannister Army which is like 20k before Drogon burned alot of them down. So probably 30k units for Cersei.

    • @thesprawl2361
      @thesprawl2361 5 лет назад +8

      I usually hate online pile-ons but fuck me this show has just committed suicide this season.
      I though season 6 was dumb but still had plenty of good moments, then s7 was _really_ dumb and had some huge moments that made it crap but fun.
      S8? It's not even fun any more, it's just beyond idiotic. Like a really bad daytime soap opera.

    • @ezcoreg759
      @ezcoreg759 5 лет назад

      @@thesprawl2361 IMO it went from the BEST TV show to a GOOD TV show, it's not bad at all but still not as good as it was S1-S4. Still love GOT and am stoked this Sunday to see what goes down on S8E5.
      I just want my boy Jon to be King!

  • @DarkSolace33
    @DarkSolace33 6 лет назад +203

    This is why George R.R Martin is such a great author!

  • @Reac2
    @Reac2 2 года назад +28

    "Everything is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power"

  • @evn2787
    @evn2787 4 года назад +17

    i like George he is very passionate and proud about his work and he wasn't gonna get fooled by money or let ABC or NBC butcher his work while he was alive if i like a book i want its author to be like George

  • @idontwantone132
    @idontwantone132 5 лет назад +37

    1:37 listen to that laugh lol

  • @88happiness
    @88happiness 5 лет назад +86

    I think the books have more violence and less sex.

    • @co2_os
      @co2_os 2 года назад +7

      Yeah I'm two thirds in the first book and I'm shocked with how little there was in the books compared to the show. D&D add sex scenes at every chance they get, they liked it a bit too much.

    • @WrangleMcDangle
      @WrangleMcDangle 2 года назад +5

      the books have more violent sex. literally children being raped by the mountain and his men. it's brutal and i find it hard to read at times. still my favorite book series tho

    • @vini6391
      @vini6391 6 месяцев назад

      But they have sex violence instead

  • @blorkpovud1576
    @blorkpovud1576 5 лет назад +59

    The whole adult/child is so weird to me, as even 20 year olds seem like kids to me now!

    • @antonioklaic4839
      @antonioklaic4839 5 лет назад +19

      Yeah it seems that as time goes our perception of age changes.
      I live in a country where it used to be normal to marry at 16 and today noone marries until at least early 20s.
      I am 17 now and before I thought of 18 year olds as adults but seeing myself and my peers we're still just teens but are considered old enough to do mature things.
      Biologically speaking 22 is the age when the body matures.

    • @antonioklaic4839
      @antonioklaic4839 5 лет назад +2

      @@FritoLays1236 ysah there are definately 18 year old children in my class. Aswell as mature teens.

    • @glitterbabe96
      @glitterbabe96 5 лет назад +8

      Antonio Klaic It’s important to understand that this was common in many societies. In Europe, during the medieval era a person’s life expectancy was about 40 years old. You had about 1/3 of all children that were born, dying before they reached adolescence. So in that sense marriages at 16-17 were so important. Plus, women in particular grew up knowing that their purpose in life was to marry and have children. It was how life was. It’s shocking to us now, that this was the norm, because many of us don’t experience this upbringing anymore.

    • @steelbear2063
      @steelbear2063 4 года назад +7

      @@antonioklaic4839
      Biologically speaking maturity is when you're ready to be poppin' out kids. That's what nature is about - try not to die before spreading your genes

    • @antonioklaic4839
      @antonioklaic4839 4 года назад +4

      @@steelbear2063 yeah, I was talking about mental maturity, which is more of an abstract concept.
      Some people never do get mentally "mature"

  • @GeekdomCentral
    @GeekdomCentral 5 лет назад +44

    The thing about the time period is one of my absolute favorite things, and one of my biggest complaints with the show now. The show is injecting modern logic and ideals into this time period, and it just doesn’t work.

    • @stevowilliams8279
      @stevowilliams8279 5 лет назад

      what are some of the modern ideas youve noticed?

    • @ip4501
      @ip4501 5 лет назад +10

      My guess is he is confusing women’s rights and homosexuality for issues that are exclusive to today.

  • @deathfyre6631
    @deathfyre6631 4 года назад +13

    Aw man.. I was looking forward to GOT broadcasting on PBS Kids

  • @claretravels783
    @claretravels783 5 лет назад +79

    I think it's quite right that they don't allow simulated underage sex scenes on TV so I get that it was necessary to age Dany up, but I never even thought about it ageing up everyone else because of the timeline! So complex.

    • @solarflare4240
      @solarflare4240 5 лет назад +12

      yea watching the latest episode was weird because i still think of Arya as child and now she in bed w Gendry. im glad they didnt show too much tho

    • @che3se1495
      @che3se1495 5 лет назад +15

      @Themooselair It's just weird seeing someone that in your head is still 14 nude.

    • @che3se1495
      @che3se1495 5 лет назад +6

      @@FritoLays1236 No one's upset. It's just like seeing someone you knew when they were 14 nude. They're still young in your head.

    • @howgrosserinoiskripperinos1865
      @howgrosserinoiskripperinos1865 5 лет назад +11

      Themooselair that explains more than you think it does!

    • @che3se1495
      @che3se1495 5 лет назад +4

      @Themooselair Good for you? I think you might be too young to get what I'm on about. Either that or fucked in the head.

  • @PabIoEscobar.
    @PabIoEscobar. 5 лет назад +6

    If god would explain a simple question, it would be like this:

  • @virginiadavila397
    @virginiadavila397 6 лет назад +11

    you can do it

  • @ryanwilliamtempleton8387
    @ryanwilliamtempleton8387 5 лет назад +14

    I don't think I could've watched some of the scenes in GoT had it been 13 year olds. It would be wrong I think although it's just history.

  • @Ed_Lothia
    @Ed_Lothia 5 лет назад +29

    What if people could ask the AUTHOR about the BOOKS smh

    • @angel91485
      @angel91485 4 года назад +2

      he said in one interview, he cant answer much of the books to preserve spoilers...unlike the series which was already done and assumed watched by everybody, so his answers are not limited...

  • @Influx27
    @Influx27 5 лет назад +54

    The dumb thing is when they age up characters who are so completely unrelated to the timeline, like Missandei. She's like 8 years old in the book. Hell, even if they aged her up she'd Still be a little kid.
    They even age up Tomen and Marcella in the middle of nowhere. There was never any sex for those characters in the books (nor Missandei) - they just wanted to insert some BS sex into the story.
    Good lord, they even cut Out sex with Tyrion (in Volantis). I liked Shae as a friend, but they got so invested in her as a romantic partner that they hideously fucked themselves. Not to mention the ton of sex they threw out when they got rid of Arys Oakheart and Arianne Martel. It's like the show had some horrible brain injury and is now trying to piece together its memories and identity from what bits of brain remain.

    • @thesprawl2361
      @thesprawl2361 5 лет назад +14

      I was so surprised when reading the books that Robb and Jon are fourteen at the start. _Fourteen_ and Jon's off to the wall to join the Watch. And Robb would've been...what? sixteen? when leading an army against the Lannisters?

    • @evn2787
      @evn2787 4 года назад +5

      @@thesprawl2361 that's how it was back in the day king henry the 5 was 16 when he had to take up his fathers and 18 when he fought at Agincourt

    • @andymonserud9029
      @andymonserud9029 Год назад

      In fairness, child actors are notoriously hard to cast and work with, and Missandei spends a lot of time with Dany nude on top of that in both books and show, even if it's not sexual nudity. I'd hesitate to cast a child in that role even if you cut those scenes, just because she had such a major role that benefited a lot from the work of the actress they wound up going with.

  • @infidelheretic923
    @infidelheretic923 6 лет назад +3

    I suppose this gives the film makers a bit of leeway and a valid excuse to fall back on.

  • @LuzMaria95
    @LuzMaria95 5 лет назад +1

    D&D/HBO FUCKED IT UP SMH

  • @ducnhu6144
    @ducnhu6144 3 года назад +1

    Aaaaaaaaaahhhhh .

  • @princessazula6679
    @princessazula6679 4 года назад +1

    5:30
    why then does tommen who is 12 or 13 in the tv show have sex?

  • @edgargarcez6098
    @edgargarcez6098 2 года назад +1

    Modern culture looks shocked to past culture. Nothing new…if people cant understand context and apreciate the work on his own merits without the modern bagage, better to just watch another show 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @harmannd7270
    @harmannd7270 5 лет назад +1

    Did George write an episode in season 8 too?

    • @adumsundler4397
      @adumsundler4397 4 года назад +14

      He hasn't written an episode since season 5. Since then he hasn't been involved with the show whatsoever.

  • @asmartistenthusiast3469
    @asmartistenthusiast3469 6 лет назад +30

    has he never seen Lolita? Jesus if that's now one step away from child porn I dunno what is.

    • @Ryanfinder226
      @Ryanfinder226 6 лет назад +38

      Akrudibum Rum there’s a difference. Lolita actively relishes and fetishizes the sexual activity of a youth while GRRM only includes such young people due to historical precedents of the society’s his world is based around

    • @brokenwave6125
      @brokenwave6125 6 лет назад +11

      That's a movie...not a tv show. Totally different rules.

    • @elliotmcgee8918
      @elliotmcgee8918 5 лет назад

      Different times as well, seeing as there have been more than one film. Standards weren't necessarily then what they are today, either, or had other loopholes.

    • @ahajordon001
      @ahajordon001 5 лет назад +5

      @@Ryanfinder226 The point of Lolita is that it's one of the most poetic books ever written about one of the worst kinds of people. And a great example of a first-person narrator who deceives the reader.

    • @muflon8342
      @muflon8342 4 года назад +1

      @@Ryanfinder226 do you feel like Lolita fetishizes children? Because I sure feel like it doesn't. Granted, I only read the book and didn't watch the adaptation, but the way the story is handled being written from POV of Humbert Humbert who's definitely an unreliable narrator (haebephile and mentally challenged individual), I see it more as a criticism of that as opposed to glorification.

  • @tateld
    @tateld 6 лет назад +102

    Damnit George....stop doing interviews and get to writing!!! :)

    • @michaelotis223
      @michaelotis223 6 лет назад +24

      tateld you can't rush art

    • @theM4R4T
      @theM4R4T 6 лет назад +10

      These are old interviews.

    • @jeebtheweeb
      @jeebtheweeb 6 лет назад +2

      @@michaelotis223 we're not aiming for the truck

    • @kevinlp3951
      @kevinlp3951 6 лет назад +6

      A moron like you doesn´t deserve to read the books

    • @chrisp.snipes9749
      @chrisp.snipes9749 5 лет назад +1

      it was a joke lmao

  • @TheDeathwhish
    @TheDeathwhish 5 лет назад +4

    Netflix would've been better sadly.

    • @ivor749
      @ivor749 5 лет назад +8

      Netflix tend to have a "politically correct" agenda which I really don't think would have suited the show.

    • @TheDeathwhish
      @TheDeathwhish 5 лет назад

      @@ivor749 Didn't think about that. Althou, Stranger Things has done a great job so I am not sure about it.

    • @ivor749
      @ivor749 5 лет назад

      @@TheDeathwhish yeah fair enough, they'd probably have a bigger budget if it was a Netflix original as well.

    • @EvsEntps
      @EvsEntps 4 года назад +3

      Netflix is trash.

    • @hellodigitalworld8224
      @hellodigitalworld8224 2 года назад +1

      Lol no Netflix is hot garbage

  • @dragunov815
    @dragunov815 3 года назад

    Yikes!

  • @Thai101full
    @Thai101full 5 лет назад +6

    I think they should've gone to Netflix , it would've given them so much money.

    • @thenachomagic8034
      @thenachomagic8034 5 лет назад

      Thrones makes $1 billion + a season. Usually takes $70-100 million to produce a season.

    • @diegosotomiranda4107
      @diegosotomiranda4107 5 лет назад +10

      Pls no, it would be wayy more butchered, theres known problems with Netflix adaptations

    • @ninakore
      @ninakore 5 лет назад +3

      Netflix wasn’t a thing 10 years ago. They were a DVD rental company back then.

    • @kennethg1092
      @kennethg1092 4 года назад +2

      They would turn it in to a political agenda shitshow and pg-13 crap. Netflix should never, ever be allowed to handle adult tv-shows. Look at season two of Altered Carbon. BULLCRAP! :D

    • @angel91485
      @angel91485 4 года назад

      netflix wasnt stil big in 2008 when they started negotiations, he said that, well not netflix directly, but HBO was already long established...

  • @maddg7471
    @maddg7471 4 года назад +1

    Nerd

  • @jamesteegardner2273
    @jamesteegardner2273 3 года назад +1

    This man desperately needs a woman at home to pick his outfits for him.

  • @ChristSaves88
    @ChristSaves88 3 года назад +1

    I have binged GOT for the last couple of weeks. I’m on season 6 and strongly considering skipping to the last episode in season 8 because it’s sooooo violent and overly sexual. It’s just too much !😩😩

  • @DeadLikeMeJ
    @DeadLikeMeJ 6 лет назад +48

    Great author people need to learn about him - shame the TV Show submitted into the feminists ranting and got worse over time

    • @michaelotis223
      @michaelotis223 6 лет назад +56

      DeadLikeMeJ feminist rantings is not the problem. The issue with the latter seasons is that the writers are now making shit up as they go along....

    • @bartimaeusofuruk9681
      @bartimaeusofuruk9681 6 лет назад +4

      They don't. They try to pander to them (look! There's Lyanna Mormont, a female leader! We totally didn't ignore all the others from the books!), but they're still upset about the Sansa rape.
      It's just bad writing, D&D don't know how a complicated story works and they mistake actors making a face with a certain emotion as acting. The Dragon Demands explains all of that very throughout on numerous examples, check out his 1 h videos if you don't believe me.

    • @DeadLikeMeJ
      @DeadLikeMeJ 6 лет назад +1

      +Micheal Otis , well yeah but also the submission to the feminist rhetoric.

    • @DeadLikeMeJ
      @DeadLikeMeJ 6 лет назад +3

      +bartimaeus of Uruk well I think at the start of the show D&D had a clue - so something changed ...
      I won't say D&D are completely out of fault over here because obviously they are not but I feel as if the burden isn't only on them.
      Season 1 was probably the best and while it made some changes , other all it nailed the book pretty good , yeah Renly is portrayed as a wuss and not even looking as he should but that is the type of minor inaccuracies there is in the season.
      Season 2 had more faults on its hands with changing characters such as Rob's wife and dropping out characters which impact others like Ramsy Bolton however it this changes might have occurred due to the lack of assurance on how long the show will run or how much time frame they have to squeeze how many characters.
      Its only the late seasons that truly gone off the rails and started to suck storywise ... but so happens to be its the seasons that have the least nudity and sex and even when there is its void of content and story telling and character development unlike earlier seasons where each occurrence of sex and nudity was to portray the world or the characters that live in it just like Rome (HBO older show) did.

    • @michaelotis223
      @michaelotis223 6 лет назад +31

      DeadLikeMeJ can we all just stop blaming everything on the feminists? They have legitimate concerns if they feel some rape scenes in the show can be overly indulgent rather than thematic. It's their bodies that are the subject, after all - and rape is lyk y'know a thing they have to deal with in real life!!! If there's a sub group to blame, it's the fan theorists that sprang up this decade, filling people's heads with unrealistic expectations that just can't be met.
      The real pandering by the writers is to the masses in general. GoT has become too big for its own good. The whole world arrived late to the party, so what was once a brilliant deconstructing of medieval fantasy slowly became formulaic constructed fantasy

  • @hopmo4004
    @hopmo4004 4 года назад

    if you want God to forgive you dont commet here just go to the church and pray.

  • @juanburgos8176
    @juanburgos8176 5 лет назад

    Is George gonna write a episode in Season 8, and if so which?

    • @Askarcher
      @Askarcher 5 лет назад +16

      No. He’d never touch that garbage fire

  • @lungfish
    @lungfish 5 лет назад +5

    Dany was 13 when she was married off in the books? Haha, GoT is even more degenerate than I thought.

    • @jocao2831
      @jocao2831 4 года назад +13

      Bruh, are you dumb or what?

    • @subutaynoyan5372
      @subutaynoyan5372 4 года назад +17

      It's medieval world. They saw any girl capable of being pregnant as a woman

    • @henryruston9572
      @henryruston9572 4 года назад +15

      Madoka Karamazov it’s realistic, not degenerate

    • @angel91485
      @angel91485 4 года назад +6

      you didnt pay attention to what he said?....

    • @wserthmar8908
      @wserthmar8908 3 года назад

      Weeb talking about GoT is hilarious

  • @CrissCHG
    @CrissCHG 5 лет назад +4

    pretty disgusting actually

  • @アレックス-r5w
    @アレックス-r5w Год назад

    Twow

  • @ThuVo-og8su
    @ThuVo-og8su 3 года назад +1

    Love you.