I also quit my job as a developer. Sure the pay was good but it's not worth the stress and being stuck inside all day. I'm now working as a photographer and enjoy it far more. I don't get paid as much but I don't even care.
mhm at least u are now living insted of chasing something u don't like ..for me i love games and i love making concepts and looking for ways to make games eficent and all game related topics like drawing sprites and music and concepts on how to make the game i felt bad cuz i couldn't program those parts even tho i can do stuff like drawing which ppl feel like its extremly hard for them to do but ig not everyone should be a programmer to be usefull in the game industry there is stuff like manegment
@@kyonas6047 Yeah it's not for everyone, I was doing web development and it's just become ridiculously over-engineered and not fun at all to work with. I don't think it's a long term job for many people, within 5 or 10 years most people will burn out and quit. I'm so glad I quit, best decision I've ever made!
@@jaspercaelan4998 I was thinking of learning to code but I find out its kinda stressful so I am thinking about digital marketing, what do you say? Is this stressful too?
I've been a developer for 13 years now, I am not enjoying it at all now, also Im a great cook, I make great pulled pork and burgers, Im looking for a foodtruck to buy or rent so I can try it, want it to be a mixed dark kitchen and to go place
Been a programming for 22 years. Tech is so toxic in Australia, specially the last 3 years became very ethnocentric. So glad you guys found you passion elsewhere
Thanks for sharing. I Am 24 and a C# software engineer but I already feel exhausted. I feel I have just entered into the rat's race. The routine and always working under orders and instructions is something I can't bear for many years. There are many things I want to do with my life and time but cannot do them. I am working on my 'prison break' in the next 6 months. I think you made the best decision. Thanks for sharing.
We all have things that work and motivate us and a lot of times we take the easy route because it the known or the safe route. Me leaving my job is not something that was easy to do, but looking back to 7 month ago, I grew up so much and I learned so much that I was not longer able to do at work. Hopefully you find what you like and get to do that. Best regards!
Same, sitting in front of a screen for 30 years auto pilot your life away, but I still gotta pay bill. Until I have an alternative income then I can't quit. I know I'm not the only one feeling this.
These kind of realistic sincere "testimonies" are needed in this world. I feel like IT is too much for me at middle age. Always learning, doing so much meetings and so many administrative stuff to take care of that your mind is just spinning as crazy. After a while it's too much.
I feel that I got your point. I perceive that the issue lies in unrealistic timelines to achieve higher progress. This is one thing that makes me upset all the time. When I was a beginner, I was only given 3-4 weeks to learn a new technology from end-end.
After 20 years of experience in IT field I learned one thing. You don't have to be the hero of the day, week or month. It's about the money. It's the companies right to make as much as they can and so should you.
Thanks for sharing your story. Burning out is exactly what I feel as a software engineer too. The fear of job market uncertainty and desire of taking a career break are battling inside of me. Hope I can be more brave.
It is important to take care of yourself, if you are feeling burnt out, do something to solve the situation, maybe a vacation, change of course, project... anything that you think might help. You are brave and you can do anything you put your mind to. Best of luck.
@@HolisticDeveloper 23 years ago I was a Microsoft Orange Card Software test Engineer and I was burned out working 13 hours a day. I made lots of money ...and WISHED I kept my amazon stock at 20 dollars a hour, I would be a millionaire and retired but nope, sold after I was let go from the group and had no work for a year, and my car broke down.
@@LK-pc4sq its okay brother, sometimes the things you like is not good for you... I heard many rich people are not happy, after all who will take drugs and alcohol if they are happy? If money will snatch your good days and happiness, and lead you to stress and ungodly things then seek refuge in God from that, but yes, we have to do that much thing where we have to live happily with whatever we got... Too much money ain't bad thing unless it won't drive you crazy but with some money where you are living a stress-less life is a good thing
Employers are always there to abuse & rip off the employees one way or the other. Ever thought is the company respecting your loyalty? Dont be so emotional in life. You will do everything & the company wont even think to pull the trigger on you. If you are in a job you are selling your skills. Take it that way. And yes no job is to be taken for granted. Its there today might disappear the next day.
Job is like a relationship and modern companies are like modern dating, netflix and chill instead of life long partners. I approached several jobs thinking "ill work here till I retire" eventually the managers/company/owners treating you like trash pushes you out. You can bring your absolute best, and theyll shit on you. Now i approach jobs like they have a definitive end. Sad :(
The relationship analogy is a good one. to continue the relationship analogy, you need to look inside yourself, because you will find the problem and the solution :) trust me, my life changed when I changed on the inside. it hasn't been easy but after 3 years I have more money and more confidence and satisfaction. I lifted my brother out of depression and took financial pressure off my mom, my life is of a different quality now. maybe you couldn't tell from looking at me but it feels different. look up David Hawkins letting go, good luck!
You are so humble. I can imagine that environment where you have to handle a lot of things and also be responsible for your children, its no easy indeed. It was a wisely decision. Hopefully everything is alright :)
You are correct it was not easy, a lot of things were going on in my life, with my health, with my family and with my career. The decision was not easy, but it was necessary. Thank you for your kindness. How are you and what are you doing for a better tomorrow?
After 15 years with many ups and downs, Software Engineering has absolutely sucked my soul dry. I'm so tired and lost, not to mention addicted to unhealthy coping mechanisms.
I am in first year of Computer Science. I thought I would like programming , but I don t like. I feel so stressed coding and I thought mental heath is more important than a job that pay you lots of money.
I didn't work in software development, but I worked 10 years on the IT side of things as a systems engineer. It's even worse. I just don't enjoy technology like I used to. It started as a hobby, and then working in the industry made me hate working on it, even as a hobby. I left my job without notice and now I'm partnering with a friend doing remodeling (demolition is pretty fun), garage doors, framing, and making almost as much as I did at my last job since there's very little overhead. We're only 7-8 months into this company, so hoping it just gets better.
@@Ryan-mx4ll good for you! Yours is sadly a familiar tale in tech: kid who likes tech as a hobby, gets skills/education, turns their passion into a job, then slowly gets the passion squeezed out of them. In the UK the BCS did research and found that 25% of men leave the tech sector totally after 10 years, and 40% of women leave after 20 years. Tech drains people until you are a husk. Long hours, on call, heavy work loads, and in top of that staring at screens hours in end in work rots your eyesight. If I could do it again, I'd be a gardener.
The point about having to meet higher expectations is interesting. I can totally relate to this. I also hear lot of female engineers speak about the opposite, that they're not expected to be as smart as their male co workers. I don't know which one is a better situation, they both sound like less than ideal.
in my experience on average (as there are exceptions) the women on the team are given a fairly easy time by the team leads (given the more enjoyable less pressure work) in part cuz of that perception but also cuz of the strong push for more women in tech and the belief that they need to be cushioned all the way. it's kinda depressing when you see them get a pass while you're being expected to do the heavy lifting and stay late fix technical issues etc. it makes me want to leave the profession and say "ladies, if you want it you can have it but you have to have all the job, not just the nice parts"
Thank you a lot. You just speak my heart thinking. After learning something as a web developer and applying it I just move forward without taking a deep breath and asking my self why I have learned it and what benefit does it provide to me. You know, I just keep forgetting those things. From know on I will look forward to the concept not the rules. Your talking just give me an aim. I want to be a reason follower.
I always love the days when I am on bench or when I don't have to work even when in a project. -_- I gave my best in the first 2-3 years and then I experienced a burnout at one point. It's almost been 4.8 years now since I started and I still try to do my best but I've stopped trying to overexert myself now. Nice video and a good decision. Wish you all the best. 👍 Namaste.
Yes, the bench day that was indeed a history now... I miss those days too... Anyway are you quitting your job bhai? I was thinking of learning to code but I find out its kinda stressful so I am thinking about digital marketing, what do you say? Is this stressful too? Kindly reply bhai I am an Indian too
I left software as well. After having worked for a variety of MNCs as a cloud engineer such as IBM, amazon etc im exhausted and perpelxed by how annoyed i am at fhe system ! Its really draining dull and too grey for me. Im 27 years old and have decided to quit IT to become a pilot. Lifes too short
I studied computer science but I could not keep my interest in becoming a programmer, so after I graduated I just worked as a technical support advisor, it's not that bad in the beginning, because it helps me improve my communication and English skills. But in the long run, I need to get into a real career and I feel bad that I can't get into something related to what I studied. Also I'm interested in moving to another country as you did (Canada). Need an advise from you
thinking about leaving job as developer as i m sick of unending cycle of researching coding etc and becoming simple school teacher i would bee paid less bt i would be happy as i love interacting, socializing
I m so Stuck in work & yes not getting time to breathe & I have a 3year kid .I was so happy before but after coming to this new project to get visa,I feel I made a mistake. Because there's no one happy in this project.... everyone works more than 9hours & getting more works without knowing how to get it done & in a very short deadline. Before watching this video I was blaming my self that I m not able to manage things but now I understood that the issue is in the project selection.Not sure what to do because I want to earn & keep learning.
The first time you complete a task in 2 weeks, they say "Oh Yalcin, that is great. This task generally takes 3 weeks." After some time you are given a similar task but this time you may not deliver it in 2 weeks. They will question "Hey dude, you still didn't deliver it. Be quicker please". So, even if you have close relationships with your employer, you are still a tool to them to make money. They will try to utilize you as much as possible. They don't care about your personal development, mental situation etc. most of the times. The only criteria to stay some where: Are you happy or not? If you are not happy, will you be able to support yourself financially for some time if you quit? Every developer should analyze their own situation and make a decision. Don't make it complex.
I am about to quit as well. I've had enough. I want to be able to enjoy programming again and do it without someone criticising my code every pull request.
I suspect that you did not have a good manager to provide you a safe and comfortable environment as you grew and progressed in your career at your past company. Picking a good manager/mentor is very important when considering switching jobs.
im a .net developer also with angular front end and im starting my first job in a month and im very nervous .....goodluck on your new career and im sure u will do fine!
@@charlesm.2604 im doing good man got a new job with the goverment great position the boss took a chance on me and now im learning and trying to grow with this job.
@@adamsc9049 hey adam im on a 6 month contract about to expire in 2 months then they will let me know if i got the job as a full time. One of the hardest jobs i. have done so far but im sticking with it not a quitter.
ive been working as a developer for a year within networking. My team does very basic scripts. Nothing interesting. I feel like quitting but I haven’t found another job yet. I HATE my job.
As you are now a senior developer, would like to know your journey. Like what makes different from a jnr developer and if you can get into specifics in the knowledge gap, that would make for a good video as well.
what bothers me in my current job (8 hours a day) : it degrades my vision (and maybe my health too), no ambiance (and no future because the mediocre/traitors political leaders of France/EU will destroy many businesses because of their global death agenda, aka the great reset), coworkers always staring at their screens. in general what bothers me in coding is the bad quality code/complexity of the projects I have to maintain. Personally, I think that we should use patterns that make programs predictable and deterministic, for example, prefer message passing to communicate between threads, in other words don't let a method/object to be used by different threads (even if you use locks). I don't like languages that use garbage collection, I prefer using smart pointers like the ones the Qt C++ framework offer. GUIs should be simple, at this time, I'm using WPF and I don't like it.
Like with everything in software engineering. Yes, I can be 10 seconds to say exactly what you said however your if want to provide a bit more context, then you take a bit more time to elaborate.
@@HolisticDeveloper Nice to hear from you again ... Time to get back on track ... With tools like GitHub co pilot you will gain your previous productivity levels and even surpass it in no time ... Let me know what you think ...
I think I'm near burnout, because I'm completely dread to "go" to work everyday even WFH. I'm in an interview process and I hope I pass, if this happens I'll feel like a giant burden will be removed from me, especially in my mind. Otherwise, if this doesn't happen I'm thinking about quit, I think it is much more ethical than the way I'm behaving now and I believe I can find a new job in some months, even if it doesn't pay the same amount.
I think secretly this is a near universal experience for software devs. But if you speak up about burnout managers who aren't in the position of having to do the work themselves will just insist "just give it another week we're nearly there" and on it goes forever.
In the end I didn't quit at that time, but this month I left the company and I'll start tomorrow in a new one. Unfortunately I couldn't rest a full month before I start, but I had to leave, also for this new job I had to set up my own company, now it is funny because I want to grow my company but I still worry a lot about not having enough free time, anyway time will tell the path I'll choose. Good luck if you are feeling the same I was about my job, I hope you find your ideal place in the industry.
I love math, I love doing math, math is my passion and my life and my love. But, just as much as I love math, I hate coding/programming. Computer programming is my antichrist.
Takes a long time to get to the point, but it's this, yes, you have to keep learning. I think the problem with most programmers is the thought that you have to be incredibly myopic and you want to accomplish everything over night. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
I think today young people are expecting too much from their jobs. At the end of the day it is simply your duty to fulfill. If you have a young family to bring up that is enough in itself to occupy a lot of your time. All the workplace socializing is more for the single people. People need to downsize their expectations, and concentrate on what is most important. You can't just keep changing your life plans because your mood has changed.
Software development is always about pushing your limit forward, you are never good enough. Everyday appears some new technology you have to learn or you will be a fossil. I hate that too. It exhausts a lot. If you are a company founder only then you can rest and not work
I am also a wordpress developer, somewhere i am also facing the same situation, I have decided to quite a job and start freelancing, the reasons are in have 3 years of baby and he needs me, at the same time the whenever i am thinking that i achieve my goal to complete something ,the situations are comes with something higher from company end.
in general corporations do not reciprocate loyalty these days. there's just too many layers between stakeholders and employees for anyone to care or incentivize loyalty if they do. don't sell yourself short for legal entities setup purely for financial profit.
The job is very complex very hard and you need to do and know a million thing.. Some people answer phone calls and do some paper work and get paid almost the same salary..
I heard something that I liked today from one of the @ThePrimeagen shorts, and it goes something like: There are people who say programming is easy, and not true programming is simple but not easy. Simple and easy are completely different things
I just came across your channel today. I'd love to understand how you quit your job 3 years ago (during the pandemic) and then joined AppAcademy 2 years later??? anyway, thanks for the content
Hi @Leonardo. Here is the timeline hopefully it will clarify things: 1. Left my job last day of February 2020 2. Joined AppAcademy March 23rd 2020 Does that answer your question?
@@HolisticDeveloper Oh okay.. You posted the review video a year ago so I thought you had this 2 year gap in between which was making me wonder "why" (since you were already a SE). Thanks for clarifying it, though. Im just about to join a bootcamp and so I've searching about people's experiences on it.. from what I understood from your other video you probably recommend avoiding them altogether and going the self-taught route instead? Thnaks again
@Leonardo Ragazini what I am trying to say is that you need to research your bootcamp very well and know what you are paying for exactly. If you know that you can succeed with a self-taught rought then do it, bootcamp is a bit more organized and keeps you accountable. Ask yourself is that worth the high cost?
I have started my career as a software engineer before 3 months. But I am not enjoying my work, due to lack of interest. I have so many plan to implement in my life but don't know how to do that. I don't have any backup 😕
@@HolisticDeveloper my pleasure you caught me on a good day. I unplugged from all social media and computers for 2 weeks straight 😮👍 up until today brain needed it
the endless chase for the carrot is exactly the rat race of corporate salaried work. unfortunately software dev is on the receiving end of decisions made by others in the company. you're at the mercy of their whims and beliefs. it's why managers enjoy the process while software devs burnout time and time again. cuz you're the rat on the wheel and they're there to maximize the speed you run on that wheel, endlessly.
You should have fun and feel like being in a flow when you are programming. Not thinking about goal and higher goals or pressure. Perhaps think a bit parallel on the way where you are heading, but it is about enjoying the ride. If you are not enjoying it after a while it is not for you.
I was thinking of learning to code but I find out its kinda stressful so I am thinking about digital marketing, what do you say? Is this stressful too?
so why did she quit? why cant she just give some simple and concise answers rather than annoucing it for several videos and not providing a clear and simple answer. After hearing all this, the only clue i got was that she wanted to do something different, and then she goes on and say there wasnt any work, and then she says she worked too much and not had pause, so which one is it??? why on earth is it so difficult to pin point something easy and simple, but she's not providing anything concret. some poeple are just complicated...
English is not her first language. It seemed like she was trying her best to explain her situation in another language. So basically from what I got, the company was not doing well anyways so it gave her a reason to leave. She probably was stressed sometimes and had moments where she thought that something else would be better for her since coding is always overworking you.
What is the difference between a software developer and a software engineer? I’m going to the University of Mobile in Mobile, Alabama in the Fall. They have a software developer major. Will that be a good choice for me?
It depends on who you will ask, but in my opinion, they do similar things. It might be that you start as a software developer and as you get more experience you become a software engineer, however, at the core they are the same things. Best of luck with your studies, a career in tech can be challenging at times and really rewarding.
You have mix it up lash out get wreckless with the shit. Keep people guessing be unpredictable. Helps to lie all time about any little thing. Don't ever be scared walk out or leave company hanging. I've had many dead end jobs. Out of blue be helpful caring they won't know what hit them. All company wants for you make them 3 times as much as they pay you. make demands come up missing for weeks on end. Loyalty cool but not if it's one-sided.
neither is not having a house, future or legacy. this job could be so much better if companies didnt suck ass, werent stingy and treated people fairly. no one accomodates for juniors. so the industry is a mess. 7 years ive been trying to get my foot in the door and that is After university.
Hi. I checking in on you.I glad you are good. Title is confusing for me. You a quit the company but you are still software engineer. As far as I understood you want to learn some promising areas and your company didn't allow you do that. Because when I see that title I think people want to change position, like became team lead, manager or something, didn't you think or try that?
Привет Иван. Я ушла с моей работы программиста. Я не оставила программирование. Я уже было team lead, dev lead, technical project manager, project manager. Я дошла до уровня где я не учила практически нечего нового, не делала ничего нового и хотела выучить что-то новое и интересное за своё время но мне не разрешили на работе и через несколько месяцев решила уйти когда на работе перестали прибывать проекты.
20+ years coding, it sucks royal donkee. Arrogance, lack of support, horribly written systems, increasing complexity, throwing out technologies and adopting new ones just cause... (see Angular), forcing you to work on technologies you don't care about or want to do.. Companies will not allow time off/sabbatical etc. You are a cog in the wheel. No matter how good a job you do, no one cares...here's your next project. No thanks, no bonus, just here's the next thing. Imagine that forever, now, do you care anymore about doing a great job?
Since you haven't posted any new videos in 11 months, I guess it didn't work out that well. My turn to code myself into oblivion. I expect similar lack of results.
Would be nice to give your husband a credit instead of saying "quit my job without a backup plan". Other than that it all sounds very familiar and relatable.
Wow, Vitaly apparently you know better what is going on in my life, one thing should be clear out my husband is not a backup plan he is my partner in life.
*I would suggest you skip the fake emotional apologetic acting and speak concisely and stay focussed whilst being succinct. Viewer time is precious and you are forcing us to skip through your video. The first five minutes are just fluff. Very disappointing acting and poor presentation.*
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. - Mark 1:15 KJV The Gospel aka the Good News Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: - 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. - Romans 10:9-11 KJV
Trust me living in white man's world / country is not that easy .. financially or stable ... regards from poor but fascinating India ...at least we don't have these problems as loca Economics are great and cost of living is cheaper + u can scale your business plan s and career at international level !!!
There a lot of things that are not easy and I am interested of what exactly are you referring to when you say living in a white man's world/country? Can you elaborate with an example?
@@HolisticDeveloper , well .. In the sence.. cost of living ../ here in India for family of 3 it's less than 150 doller per month / with good housing / and in USA / EUROPE u know it better. So if u have big business dreams it's easy in India compare to west and u can scale up internationally..!!!
@@HolisticDeveloper , well I can't suggest but why not u try as a software developer in India n firm / or India / may be that interest ING / there are lot of big business Indian software firms there !!!
That is the case where I am coming from too, and many more places. I was working tones of hours per month and getting a salary of $30 a month on good months, as per cost of living the salary did not cover even the bills for electricity, gas and water... so I know about this, I grew up there, and it is the really for many counties in the worlds and it has nothing to do with the color, race or religion.
@@HolisticDeveloper , colour / race / religion / well please check on u tube / money prienting , QE quantitative easing / assets inflation in first world countries / and $ 30 a month u must be joking where u are getting such salery ?? / In white country this problem is whorse and not every where in the world !!!
I also quit my job as a developer. Sure the pay was good but it's not worth the stress and being stuck inside all day. I'm now working as a photographer and enjoy it far more. I don't get paid as much but I don't even care.
mhm at least u are now living insted of chasing something u don't like ..for me i love games and i love making concepts and looking for ways to make games eficent and all game related topics like drawing sprites and music and concepts on how to make the game i felt bad cuz i couldn't program those parts even tho i can do stuff like drawing which ppl feel like its extremly hard for them to do but ig not everyone should be a programmer to be usefull in the game industry there is stuff like manegment
@@kyonas6047 Yeah it's not for everyone, I was doing web development and it's just become ridiculously over-engineered and not fun at all to work with. I don't think it's a long term job for many people, within 5 or 10 years most people will burn out and quit. I'm so glad I quit, best decision I've ever made!
Same happened to me, now I’m a photographer/social media manager and enjoy it way more
@@jaspercaelan4998 how about becoming a manager after 5-6 years?
@@jaspercaelan4998 I was thinking of learning to code but I find out its kinda stressful so I am thinking about digital marketing, what do you say? Is this stressful too?
I left my job because of the pressure in Sprints as a Java Developer. Now I'm an electrician, making less money but living happily.
Electrician make serious bank, at least in Australia.
I've been a developer for 13 years now, I am not enjoying it at all now, also Im a great cook, I make great pulled pork and burgers, Im looking for a foodtruck to buy or rent so I can try it, want it to be a mixed dark kitchen and to go place
Been a programming for 22 years. Tech is so toxic in Australia, specially the last 3 years became very ethnocentric. So glad you guys found you passion elsewhere
@@account-369 Indians only
Thanks for sharing. I Am 24 and a C# software engineer but I already feel exhausted. I feel I have just entered into the rat's race. The routine and always working under orders and instructions is something I can't bear for many years. There are many things I want to do with my life and time but cannot do them. I am working on my 'prison break' in the next 6 months. I think you made the best decision. Thanks for sharing.
We all have things that work and motivate us and a lot of times we take the easy route because it the known or the safe route. Me leaving my job is not something that was easy to do, but looking back to 7 month ago, I grew up so much and I learned so much that I was not longer able to do at work. Hopefully you find what you like and get to do that. Best regards!
Same, sitting in front of a screen for 30 years auto pilot your life away, but I still gotta pay bill. Until I have an alternative income then I can't quit. I know I'm not the only one feeling this.
Its called predatory capitalism. may I suggest you interview over seas were labor laws are much stricter?
@@LK-pc4sq Yes please
Is it a development role or maintenance?
These kind of realistic sincere "testimonies" are needed in this world. I feel like IT is too much for me at middle age. Always learning, doing so much meetings and so many administrative stuff to take care of that your mind is just spinning as crazy. After a while it's too much.
I feel that I got your point. I perceive that the issue lies in unrealistic timelines to achieve higher progress. This is one thing that makes me upset all the time. When I was a beginner, I was only given 3-4 weeks to learn a new technology from end-end.
Wow!
wow...3-4 weeks????? that is insane!!!
@@LK-pc4sq yes indeed
After 20 years of experience in IT field I learned one thing. You don't have to be the hero of the day, week or month. It's about the money. It's the companies right to make as much as they can and so should you.
Thanks for sharing your story. Burning out is exactly what I feel as a software engineer too. The fear of job market uncertainty and desire of taking a career break are battling inside of me. Hope I can be more brave.
It is important to take care of yourself, if you are feeling burnt out, do something to solve the situation, maybe a vacation, change of course, project... anything that you think might help. You are brave and you can do anything you put your mind to. Best of luck.
@@HolisticDeveloper 23 years ago I was a Microsoft Orange Card Software test Engineer and I was burned out working 13 hours a day. I made lots of money ...and WISHED I kept my amazon stock at 20 dollars a hour, I would be a millionaire and retired but nope, sold after I was let go from the group and had no work for a year, and my car broke down.
@@LK-pc4sq its okay brother, sometimes the things you like is not good for you... I heard many rich people are not happy, after all who will take drugs and alcohol if they are happy? If money will snatch your good days and happiness, and lead you to stress and ungodly things then seek refuge in God from that, but yes, we have to do that much thing where we have to live happily with whatever we got... Too much money ain't bad thing unless it won't drive you crazy but with some money where you are living a stress-less life is a good thing
Employers are always there to abuse & rip off the employees one way or the other. Ever thought is the company respecting your loyalty? Dont be so emotional in life. You will do everything & the company wont even think to pull the trigger on you. If you are in a job you are selling your skills. Take it that way. And yes no job is to be taken for granted. Its there today might disappear the next day.
Job is like a relationship and modern companies are like modern dating, netflix and chill instead of life long partners. I approached several jobs thinking "ill work here till I retire" eventually the managers/company/owners treating you like trash pushes you out. You can bring your absolute best, and theyll shit on you. Now i approach jobs like they have a definitive end. Sad :(
The relationship analogy is a good one. to continue the relationship analogy, you need to look inside yourself, because you will find the problem and the solution :)
trust me, my life changed when I changed on the inside. it hasn't been easy but after 3 years I have more money and more confidence and satisfaction. I lifted my brother out of depression and took financial pressure off my mom, my life is of a different quality now. maybe you couldn't tell from looking at me but it feels different. look up David Hawkins letting go, good luck!
You are so humble. I can imagine that environment where you have to handle a lot of things and also be responsible for your children, its no easy indeed. It was a wisely decision. Hopefully everything is alright :)
You are correct it was not easy, a lot of things were going on in my life, with my health, with my family and with my career. The decision was not easy, but it was necessary. Thank you for your kindness. How are you and what are you doing for a better tomorrow?
After 15 years with many ups and downs, Software Engineering has absolutely sucked my soul dry. I'm so tired and lost, not to mention addicted to unhealthy coping mechanisms.
I am in first year of Computer Science. I thought I would like programming , but I don t like. I feel so stressed coding and I thought mental heath is more important than a job that pay you lots of money.
I didn't work in software development, but I worked 10 years on the IT side of things as a systems engineer. It's even worse. I just don't enjoy technology like I used to. It started as a hobby, and then working in the industry made me hate working on it, even as a hobby. I left my job without notice and now I'm partnering with a friend doing remodeling (demolition is pretty fun), garage doors, framing, and making almost as much as I did at my last job since there's very little overhead. We're only 7-8 months into this company, so hoping it just gets better.
@@Ryan-mx4ll I am happy I am not only who has the same point of view :)
@@Ryan-mx4ll Great to hear!
@@Ryan-mx4ll good for you! Yours is sadly a familiar tale in tech: kid who likes tech as a hobby, gets skills/education, turns their passion into a job, then slowly gets the passion squeezed out of them.
In the UK the BCS did research and found that 25% of men leave the tech sector totally after 10 years, and 40% of women leave after 20 years.
Tech drains people until you are a husk. Long hours, on call, heavy work loads, and in top of that staring at screens hours in end in work rots your eyesight.
If I could do it again, I'd be a gardener.
@@Ryan-mx4ll AND... you can own the house if you wish. Software creates zero tangible assets.
I respect her decision happiness over money
I am glad to hear that you understand the main reason 😊
I'll prefer happiness over money too meaning I won't do that thing which is not for me... But I will be happy if I will get money 🤣🤣🤣
The point about having to meet higher expectations is interesting. I can totally relate to this. I also hear lot of female engineers speak about the opposite, that they're not expected to be as smart as their male co workers. I don't know which one is a better situation, they both sound like less than ideal.
in my experience on average (as there are exceptions) the women on the team are given a fairly easy time by the team leads (given the more enjoyable less pressure work) in part cuz of that perception but also cuz of the strong push for more women in tech and the belief that they need to be cushioned all the way. it's kinda depressing when you see them get a pass while you're being expected to do the heavy lifting and stay late fix technical issues etc. it makes me want to leave the profession and say "ladies, if you want it you can have it but you have to have all the job, not just the nice parts"
@@elcapitan6126 sounds like this is a mistake of the team leads and managers, not entirely within the women’s control
As a female never show your full potential they will always take advantage what you need to do is always show up and give bare minimum 😂😂
I quit too. Congratulations. I created an app and its actually doing pretty well. I spend all my time trading options. :) Good luck.
As long as your decision is leading to a better and happier version of yourself then you make the correct decision 😊
Haha, me too. Quit data science to trade futures.
@@mishacol I want to do futures, options too. But no time to learn 😭
Thank you a lot. You just speak my heart thinking. After learning something as a web developer and applying it I just move forward without taking a deep breath and asking my self why I have learned it and what benefit does it provide to me. You know, I just keep forgetting those things. From know on I will look forward to the concept not the rules. Your talking just give me an aim. I want to be a reason follower.
Is coding stressful to you too?
I always love the days when I am on bench or when I don't have to work even when in a project. -_-
I gave my best in the first 2-3 years and then I experienced a burnout at one point. It's almost been 4.8 years now since I started and I still try to do my best but I've stopped trying to overexert myself now.
Nice video and a good decision. Wish you all the best. 👍 Namaste.
Yes, the bench day that was indeed a history now... I miss those days too... Anyway are you quitting your job bhai? I was thinking of learning to code but I find out its kinda stressful so I am thinking about digital marketing, what do you say? Is this stressful too? Kindly reply bhai I am an Indian too
So relatable about moving targets and never being able to relish the success
You’re a skilled person. You can use those skills to freelance , working under your own terms. Maybe worth a consideration .
I left software as well. After having worked for a variety of MNCs as a cloud engineer such as IBM, amazon etc im exhausted and perpelxed by how annoyed i am at fhe system ! Its really draining dull and too grey for me. Im 27 years old and have decided to quit IT to become a pilot. Lifes too short
I studied computer science but I could not keep my interest in becoming a programmer, so after I graduated I just worked as a technical support advisor, it's not that bad in the beginning, because it helps me improve my communication and English skills. But in the long run, I need to get into a real career and I feel bad that I can't get into something related to what I studied. Also I'm interested in moving to another country as you did (Canada). Need an advise from you
how much ru getting payed? Look into being a business analyst then
You can go for product manager. Very good job profile which needs people skills.
thinking about leaving job as developer as i m sick of unending cycle of researching coding etc and becoming simple school teacher i would bee paid less bt i would be happy as i love interacting, socializing
Did you do it?!
I m so Stuck in work & yes not getting time to breathe & I have a 3year kid .I was so happy before but after coming to this new project to get visa,I feel I made a mistake. Because there's no one happy in this project.... everyone works more than 9hours & getting more works without knowing how to get it done & in a very short deadline. Before watching this video I was blaming my self that I m not able to manage things but now I understood that the issue is in the project selection.Not sure what to do because I want to earn & keep learning.
The first time you complete a task in 2 weeks, they say "Oh Yalcin, that is great. This task generally takes 3 weeks." After some time you are given a similar task but this time you may not deliver it in 2 weeks. They will question "Hey dude, you still didn't deliver it. Be quicker please". So, even if you have close relationships with your employer, you are still a tool to them to make money. They will try to utilize you as much as possible. They don't care about your personal development, mental situation etc. most of the times. The only criteria to stay some where: Are you happy or not? If you are not happy, will you be able to support yourself financially for some time if you quit? Every developer should analyze their own situation and make a decision. Don't make it complex.
I am about to quit as well. I've had enough. I want to be able to enjoy programming again and do it without someone criticising my code every pull request.
video begins at 2:25
More like @9:11
@@scriptkeeper8243 lol..
I suspect that you did not have a good manager to provide you a safe and comfortable environment as you grew and progressed in your career at your past company. Picking a good manager/mentor is very important when considering switching jobs.
im a .net developer also with angular front end and im starting my first job in a month and im very nervous .....goodluck on your new career and im sure u will do fine!
Thank you so much for you best wishes and good luck at you new job, you will do great things.
@@charlesm.2604 im doing good man got a new job with the goverment great position the boss took a chance on me and now im learning and trying to grow with this job.
@@charlesm.2604 thanks! hope everyything is good with u also!
how did u get the government job???
@@adamsc9049 hey adam im on a 6 month contract about to expire in 2 months then they will let me know if i got the job as a full time. One of the hardest jobs i. have done so far but im sticking with it not a quitter.
loyal to a company ? wtf i hope u changed your view after that
i made that mistake in my last job. never again
Subscribed. You are amazing down to earth.
Wow. Thank you!
Great video. I wish there was more of this type of content on RUclips.
ive been working as a developer for a year within networking. My team does very basic scripts. Nothing interesting. I feel like quitting but I haven’t found another job yet. I HATE my job.
give me your job
Thats the job i need
I would rather be a programmer than a teacher in a public school, which I did for 2 yrs.
What's so bad about a public school teacher?
As you are now a senior developer, would like to know your journey. Like what makes different from a jnr developer and if you can get into specifics in the knowledge gap, that would make for a good video as well.
what bothers me in my current job (8 hours a day) : it degrades my vision (and maybe my health too), no ambiance (and no future because the mediocre/traitors political leaders of France/EU will destroy many businesses because of their global death agenda, aka the great reset), coworkers always staring at their screens. in general what bothers me in coding is the bad quality code/complexity of the projects I have to maintain. Personally, I think that we should use patterns that make programs predictable and deterministic, for example, prefer message passing to communicate between threads, in other words don't let a method/object to be used by different threads (even if you use locks). I don't like languages that use garbage collection, I prefer using smart pointers like the ones the Qt C++ framework offer. GUIs should be simple, at this time, I'm using WPF and I don't like it.
How long does it take to say "I quit because I wanted to learn something, and we were short on projects"
Like with everything in software engineering. Yes, I can be 10 seconds to say exactly what you said however your if want to provide a bit more context, then you take a bit more time to elaborate.
@@HolisticDeveloper
Nice to hear from you again ... Time to get back on track ... With tools like GitHub co pilot you will gain your previous productivity levels and even surpass it in no time ... Let me know what you think ...
I think I'm near burnout, because I'm completely dread to "go" to work everyday even WFH.
I'm in an interview process and I hope I pass, if this happens I'll feel like a giant burden will be removed from me, especially in my mind.
Otherwise, if this doesn't happen I'm thinking about quit, I think it is much more ethical than the way I'm behaving now and I believe I can find a new job in some months, even if it doesn't pay the same amount.
Any updates on your decision
I think secretly this is a near universal experience for software devs. But if you speak up about burnout managers who aren't in the position of having to do the work themselves will just insist "just give it another week we're nearly there" and on it goes forever.
In the end I didn't quit at that time, but this month I left the company and I'll start tomorrow in a new one.
Unfortunately I couldn't rest a full month before I start, but I had to leave, also for this new job I had to set up my own company, now it is funny because I want to grow my company but I still worry a lot about not having enough free time, anyway time will tell the path I'll choose.
Good luck if you are feeling the same I was about my job, I hope you find your ideal place in the industry.
@@iolss I'm glad you have found the ideal place for you :)
I love math, I love doing math, math is my passion and my life and my love.
But, just as much as I love math, I hate coding/programming. Computer programming is my antichrist.
😂
Takes a long time to get to the point, but it's this, yes, you have to keep learning. I think the problem with most programmers is the thought that you have to be incredibly myopic and you want to accomplish everything over night. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
Unless it’s agile
Great video, Anna! Keep them coming. :)
Thank you Jeremy 😊!
I think today young people are expecting too much from their jobs. At the end of the day it is simply your duty to fulfill. If you have a young family to bring up that is enough in itself to occupy a lot of your time. All the workplace socializing is more for the single people. People need to downsize their expectations, and concentrate on what is most important. You can't just keep changing your life plans because your mood has changed.
Software development is always about pushing your limit forward, you are never good enough. Everyday appears some new technology you have to learn or you will be a fossil. I hate that too. It exhausts a lot. If you are a company founder only then you can rest and not work
I think your character is hirable. Sadly, many companies overlook this.
I quit from Data Engineering to a State employee. The toxic environment, death lines, stress and continous learning destroyed my mental health.
I feel you mate. Money isn’t everything at the end of the day
How are you doing? I hope that you had the time and opportunity to recover. What did you decide to do?
I am also a wordpress developer, somewhere i am also facing the same situation, I have decided to quite a job and start freelancing, the reasons are in have 3 years of baby and he needs me, at the same time the whenever i am thinking that i achieve my goal to complete something ,the situations are comes with something higher from company end.
You have taken the decision and even though it must feel scary at the moment, you will be able to do whatever you want to do. Best wishes!
Wordpress developer? that sounds like a plugin engineering title
@@jorgebustillos8469 what is that?
in general corporations do not reciprocate loyalty these days. there's just too many layers between stakeholders and employees for anyone to care or incentivize loyalty if they do. don't sell yourself short for legal entities setup purely for financial profit.
I agree with this lady
5:50 why i left my job
Scrum snd this whole sprint concept made me go burnout. I need some alternatives
Freelance maybe?
@@tacorevenge87 its the same. As long as projects have scrum and an overwhelming amount of job, it doesn’t matter.
@@kayser1722 yeah fair enough. What about creating your own SaaS product?
Doing the same thing over over can lead to undesirable consequences. Is there any chance you can try a different method for a bit and see how it goes?
The job is very complex very hard and you need to do and know a million thing.. Some people answer phone calls and do some paper work and get paid almost the same salary..
I heard something that I liked today from one of the @ThePrimeagen shorts, and it goes something like: There are people who say programming is easy, and not true programming is simple but not easy. Simple and easy are completely different things
dude i love you
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@Jesse Mitchell hahaha you can use dude on anyone
amazing woman
Wow 🤩 thanks!
I just came across your channel today. I'd love to understand how you quit your job 3 years ago (during the pandemic) and then joined AppAcademy 2 years later??? anyway, thanks for the content
Hi @Leonardo. Here is the timeline hopefully it will clarify things:
1. Left my job last day of February 2020
2. Joined AppAcademy March 23rd 2020
Does that answer your question?
@@HolisticDeveloper Oh okay.. You posted the review video a year ago so I thought you had this 2 year gap in between which was making me wonder "why" (since you were already a SE). Thanks for clarifying it, though.
Im just about to join a bootcamp and so I've searching about people's experiences on it.. from what I understood from your other video you probably recommend avoiding them altogether and going the self-taught route instead?
Thnaks again
@Leonardo Ragazini what I am trying to say is that you need to research your bootcamp very well and know what you are paying for exactly. If you know that you can succeed with a self-taught rought then do it, bootcamp is a bit more organized and keeps you accountable. Ask yourself is that worth the high cost?
I have started my career as a software engineer before 3 months. But I am not enjoying my work, due to lack of interest. I have so many plan to implement in my life but don't know how to do that. I don't have any backup 😕
Hi dear!! These are some logical reasons for moving careers. Software engineers, can tend to get burned out more easily.
Your so beautiful 🥰
Thanks for sharing
@@HolisticDeveloper my pleasure you caught me on a good day. I unplugged from all social media and computers for 2 weeks straight 😮👍 up until today brain needed it
I would like to do that too
best of luck
the endless chase for the carrot is exactly the rat race of corporate salaried work. unfortunately software dev is on the receiving end of decisions made by others in the company. you're at the mercy of their whims and beliefs. it's why managers enjoy the process while software devs burnout time and time again. cuz you're the rat on the wheel and they're there to maximize the speed you run on that wheel, endlessly.
You should have fun and feel like being in a flow when you are programming. Not thinking about goal and higher goals or pressure. Perhaps think a bit parallel on the way where you are heading, but it is about enjoying the ride. If you are not enjoying it after a while it is not for you.
I was thinking of learning to code but I find out its kinda stressful so I am thinking about digital marketing, what do you say? Is this stressful too?
Yes it is
so why did she quit? why cant she just give some simple and concise answers rather than annoucing it for several videos and not providing a clear and simple answer. After hearing all this, the only clue i got was that she wanted to do something different, and then she goes on and say there wasnt any work, and then she says she worked too much and not had pause, so which one is it??? why on earth is it so difficult to pin point something easy and simple, but she's not providing anything concret. some poeple are just complicated...
English is not her first language. It seemed like she was trying her best to explain her situation in another language. So basically from what I got, the company was not doing well anyways so it gave her a reason to leave. She probably was stressed sometimes and had moments where she thought that something else would be better for her since coding is always overworking you.
Your question is good. She quit because of lack of projects. No jobs
You look like supporting actress in movies🤩
Like whom? i am curious to see how much like.
@@HolisticDeveloper like in Hollywood 😍
@@HolisticDeveloper you look like if marion cotillard and selma blair had a baby. Beautiful!!
Wow, I am actually speechless... those are really kind words. Thank you, I really appreciate it and is great to read comments like this.
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What is the difference between a software developer and a software engineer? I’m going to the University of Mobile in Mobile, Alabama in the Fall. They have a software developer major. Will that be a good choice for me?
It depends on who you will ask, but in my opinion, they do similar things. It might be that you start as a software developer and as you get more experience you become a software engineer, however, at the core they are the same things. Best of luck with your studies, a career in tech can be challenging at times and really rewarding.
Thank you a bunch!!! I hope that you are able to find something soon. I also enjoy your tech vids. Can you follow @ashfordhighfca on Instagram?
You have mix it up lash out get wreckless with the shit. Keep people guessing be unpredictable. Helps to lie all time about any little thing. Don't ever be scared walk out or leave company hanging. I've had many dead end jobs. Out of blue be helpful caring they won't know what hit them. All company wants for you make them 3 times as much as they pay you. make demands come up missing for weeks on end. Loyalty cool but not if it's one-sided.
Money isn't happiness, indeed.
neither is not having a house, future or legacy. this job could be so much better if companies didnt suck ass, werent stingy and treated people fairly. no one accomodates for juniors. so the industry is a mess. 7 years ive been trying to get my foot in the door and that is After university.
Hi. I checking in on you.I glad you are good. Title is confusing for me. You a quit the company but you are still software engineer. As far as I understood you want to learn some promising areas and your company didn't allow you do that. Because when I see that title I think people want to change position, like became team lead, manager or something, didn't you think or try that?
Привет Иван. Я ушла с моей работы программиста. Я не оставила программирование. Я уже было team lead, dev lead, technical project manager, project manager. Я дошла до уровня где я не учила практически нечего нового, не делала ничего нового и хотела выучить что-то новое и интересное за своё время но мне не разрешили на работе и через несколько месяцев решила уйти когда на работе перестали прибывать проекты.
Are you Dutch?
I think she might be Russian.
20+ years coding, it sucks royal donkee. Arrogance, lack of support, horribly written systems, increasing complexity, throwing out technologies and adopting new ones just cause... (see Angular), forcing you to work on technologies you don't care about or want to do.. Companies will not allow time off/sabbatical etc. You are a cog in the wheel. No matter how good a job you do, no one cares...here's your next project. No thanks, no bonus, just here's the next thing. Imagine that forever, now, do you care anymore about doing a great job?
Work contracts. How's that different from any other job.
Hola good morning how are you?
Good morning - Hola! Estoy bien. Como estas? Happy Friday!!!
@@HolisticDeveloper muy bien gracias how is your quarantine goi g?
Since you haven't posted any new videos in 11 months, I guess it didn't work out that well. My turn to code myself into oblivion. I expect similar lack of results.
What are you talking about, I am posting on regular basis.
you are a pretty lady
Are you from Ukraine or something like that 🤔
No, but from it's vecenities
@@HolisticDeveloper Poland?🙂
Moldova 🇲🇩
Polska. khorosho
Would be nice to give your husband a credit instead of saying "quit my job without a backup plan". Other than that it all sounds very familiar and relatable.
Wow, Vitaly apparently you know better what is going on in my life, one thing should be clear out my husband is not a backup plan he is my partner in life.
*I would suggest you skip the fake emotional apologetic acting and speak concisely and stay focussed whilst being succinct. Viewer time is precious and you are forcing us to skip through your video. The first five minutes are just fluff. Very disappointing acting and poor presentation.*
wtf
Nervous / Social anxiety
Tldr burn out
You can say ... been in and out of it
So pretty 🤩
Hulapalu
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
- Mark 1:15 KJV
The Gospel aka the Good News
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
- 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
- John 3:16 KJV
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
- Romans 10:9-11 KJV
Trust me living in white man's world / country is not that easy .. financially or stable ... regards from poor but fascinating India ...at least we don't have these problems as loca Economics are great and cost of living is cheaper + u can scale your business plan s and career at international level !!!
There a lot of things that are not easy and I am interested of what exactly are you referring to when you say living in a white man's world/country? Can you elaborate with an example?
@@HolisticDeveloper , well ..
In the sence.. cost of living ../ here in India for family of 3 it's less than 150 doller per month / with good housing / and in USA / EUROPE u know it better. So if u have big business dreams it's easy in India compare to west and u can scale up internationally..!!!
@@HolisticDeveloper , well I can't suggest but why not u try as a software developer in India n firm / or India / may be that interest ING / there are lot of big business Indian software firms there !!!
That is the case where I am coming from too, and many more places. I was working tones of hours per month and getting a salary of $30 a month on good months, as per cost of living the salary did not cover even the bills for electricity, gas and water... so I know about this, I grew up there, and it is the really for many counties in the worlds and it has nothing to do with the color, race or religion.
@@HolisticDeveloper , colour / race / religion / well please check on u tube / money prienting , QE quantitative easing / assets inflation in first world countries / and $ 30 a month u must be joking where u are getting such salery ?? / In white country this problem is whorse and not every where in the world !!!