The Pinnacle of Mini PC Servers - Minisforum MS-01
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- We review the most anticipated Core i9 mini PC of the year the Minisforum MS-01 with SFP+ 10GbE networking, a PCIe slot, and 3x M.2 slots. This has almost everything for the Windows, Proxmox VE, Ubuntu, and Linux users. VMware users may take pause. We tested a ton of cards in this system as well to see how it would work in a homelab.
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Timestamps
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00:00 Introduction to the Minisforum MS-01
02:11 External Hardware Overview
05:12 Internal Hardware Overview
05:53 Intel Core i9 and DDR5 Area
07:01 The Low Profile PCIe Plot
08:13 3x M.2 Storage Options
10:49 U.2 Storage in a M.2 Slot and the Switch Warning Label
13:24 Performance with Intel Core i9-13900H
16:29 Power Consumption and Noise in Proxmox VE
20:00 Key Lessons Learned as a Windows Mini PC
20:29 Networking PCIe Card Plug Fest Testing for making a Firewall
24:49 Storage PCIe Card Plug Fest Testing for Making a NAS or VM host
26:34 Adding 8x 18TB Hard Drives for 144TB of Storage
26:54 PCIe Card Challenges
28:20 Wrap-up 
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That feeling when random small chinese OEMs actually listen to customers while bic corporations still make the same NUC clones 10 years later
They listen but sometimes don't understand.. Case and point the R86s now has USB-C power, but it isn't standard USB-C PD power it is some funky direct wire that doesn't seem to work with a bunch of power supplies. The point of users asking for USB-C on it was so they could use standard high quality power supplies easily.
@@YKSGuythis is probably due to cost constraints.
@@weifengmao cost constraints? Do you know how cheap it is to get a little PCB that just requests the right voltage from a PD supply? Costs a couple of dollars, probably way less if you're an OEM
@@fallow_ sure a PD trigger is cheap... but you cannot just slap a port like that on the machine....
@@nhansgoofyvideos7581 but that appears to be what they did, but without the PD part, they just swapped the barrel with a USB-C physical port that does not seem to quite work with most USB-C power sources.. Slapping the PD board in there would probably have been more reliable or SIMPLY not changing from the barrel jack.. IN some ways a non standard USB-C is WORSE than a barrel jack.
Enterprise PC makers: “Customers get what they get.” Mini PC makers: “sure we can make that perfect homelab pc for you.”
13:00 They could have made that voltage switch safe by design. Meaning, if you want to install the U.2 adapter, place the switch in a way that the adapter can only be installed when it’s switched „out of the way“. Same goes for the M.2 slot. Chance is, that it could be placed that both the U.2 and M.2 could only be installed when the switch is set to the correct voltage (position).
agree, they can use some NC pins to do auto-detection for required voltage supply instead of doing the "killswitch" method. The idea being atleast there's 2 NC pin on SSD that arent being used, both by SATA and NVMe protocol on M.2 M key, and if the user plug the M.2 to U.2 adapter, this two separate NC pins is shorted, thus telling the system to send 5/12V signal instead of 3.3V
my problem with the switch is that it makes the standard connector none standard, installing a small jumper cable to bring the correct voltage to the adapter would have been much better in terms of safe i think.
@pingtime that could work, although, I wonder if there's standards compliance issues preventing this, and if they want to sell the M.2 to U.2 adapter board as a separate SKU and be universal with other systems from other OEMs. Maybe the switch could have a plastic barrier that physically blocks the M.2 port when set to U.2 mode, that may be better. Having said that, a better design is certainly desirable and needed.
@@blkhackror have a power connector on the motherboard that the adapter board slots into in the same way as it connects to the M.2 slot that provides the correct power.
@@technerd9655 From what I know working as ODM engineer, no, atleast PCI-SIG didnt really enforce it. For example, M.2 E key should have 2x1 PCIe lanes + USB coming off it, (yes, not PCIe x2, but 2 separate x1 lanes), but most manufacturer didn't bother, and when google released their dual coral TPU on M.2 E key form factor, almost all customer that tried it on their off the shelf M.2 E key slot only can use 1 of 2 TPU chip, since the second one routed to non-existent 2nd PCIe x1 lane.
Patrick, the newest rev of the MS-01 with the 13900H, the U.2 or M.2 switch is now labeled higher on the board, so when you have that adapter installed, you can now see the mode the switch is set to.
Good to see they are taking my feedback.
Hell yeah! Love sth content, right in time for lunch.
As always, Patrick’s enthusiasm is infectious
Have an awesome day!
This is awesome! I wish this was available a year ago when I upgraded my NUC server. This product line is now on the top of my list for the next upgrade!
I don't usually buy anything on impulse, but I immediately pre-ordered one of these as a barebone system when I saw the announcement as I had been looking for something *exactly* like this to both upgrade and downscale my aging 12U homelab. Glad there's no major faults and just a few quirks. Thanks for the thorough review!
Great review as always. Thank you for the time you take. There is obviously so much work that goes into what you present, an effort to be thorough and a desire to be informative. Keep up the great work, I look forward to your future content.
Love the new studio. Not as intimate as the old one due to the format but looks awesome and I look forward to the content you guys will produce there!
Yep. Not bad, but the lighting and the audio were a bit flat. Both need to be sharper in terms of mixing, color, also bokeh/depth. That's something that GN really gets right, and I'm sure it'll get fixed up eventually. :)
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I have been on the watch for this one all week now.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the excellent review, and for the community space to share ideas and problems! Currently waiting for my MS-01 with the 13900H. Should be here in a couple of weeks. Can’t wait to get my hands on it!
I like the thin client form factor a lot more than the typical mini-PC form factor. It's similar to ATX cases where you can just pop off the side panel to swap parts, and also looks sleeker while taking up less horizontal space when it's setup vertically. When it comes to thermals though I'm not sure which one is better.
Amazing video as always! I was eyeing this little box as an app server, but judging by what is written in the main site review and the lack of mention here, it does not support in-line ECC? Kinda feared that when I saw the 12900H/13900H CPU options. Oh well, with SFP+, U.2, a PCIe slot and all that, it really feels like it should be there.
Awesome! Was waiting for this review 😄
Thanks for trying the QNAP adapter cards. That's exactly the use case I'm looking at. :-)
Glad to hear it helped. I thought that would be something I wanted with this system.
I just purchased to minisforum : a venus and a Neptune series unit. Very impressed with the quality, and we will standardized on these as Linux boxed for power users in our business. What I really want is a unit like this to run over the top of my NAS.
Based on STH's positive review (as well as several other RUclipsrs), I took the plunge and ordered one of Miniforum's MS-01 barebone systems (i9-12900H) on January 13th. Based on the website's clear labeling, I figured it wouldn't even ship until March 29th. You can imagine my pleasant surprise, however, when it arrived two days ago (January 24th). The last components should arrive tomorrow, so soon I'll be building my own home server!
I don't mind that the fan assembly is screwed in. Like how often is an end user realistically going to change the RAM? Once? I'm not convinced that a more convenient, toolless mechanism would be worth the accompanying bump in price.
This is a really nice, versatile system. Totally wish I had an extra $700 laying around.
So curious to see what people do with this hardware in your forum thread. - Great video and great resource with the forum!
Impressive little box. They should look into GPU modules using mobile GPUs/power supplies in the same case, would be neat to be able to stack them and connect over USB4 with it looking quite neat.
I love your content and have watch thise several times. I guess I will wait for the MS-02 and hope they make it bigger and with more airflow.
side note: I'm not surprised the QNAP card didn't work; Minisforum rushes their BIOSes out the door. the option ROM on my Broadcom 10G cards screwed with the ability of my BD710is to POST and I bet the PCIe switch on the QNAP card triggered something in the Minisforum BIOS that caused it to have an aneurysm every time it tried to boot.
I think this video should be a must for all Minisforum MS-01 team. I think you did more R&D than they did. Great video. You didn't trash the unit but you did give some Real-time Knowledge Base to the people considering using the product. Thanks for the work involved in this review. Very informative.
Impressive little box. I want to see how much external storage this thing can handle. It would make a great VM server with something like proxmox and truenas. It should have enough horsepower to handle a bunch of external drives, all the switching, and still have plenty left over for a few Windows VM's.
Anither amazing indepth review from sth. Keep up the amazjng work. This tiny pc seens like an amazing homrlab platforrm
Glad you liked it!
7940HS would have been cool so we had built in AV1 encoding. The Arc Pro A40 is still MIA over a year later.
Same sentiments. I'd probably hold out for the V2/next release.
AMD AV1 encoder is worse than QSV and NVENC, and if you are doing AV1 for archival purpose then CPU encoding is still far better.
Streaming wise QSV h265 is already blazing fast so idk why there is this craze about AV1 hardware encoder
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True. It would just be a nice to have if you use your server to encode streams in real time, assuming your other devices support AV1. Doesn't really matter, but being able to stream a movie from outside your home in just a tiny bit better quality at the same bitrate is worth it to some people. Would be great if the Arc A40 was actually available or if Nvidia cared about the low-power market. The last half-height, single-slot card we got from Nvidia was the GT 1030, and it doesn't even have an encoder. And the T1000 uses Pascal's NVENC.
@@n0k0m3From what I've read so far, the gap between AMF AV1 encoder and QSV and NVENC ones is far smaller then the gap between H.264 and HEVC encoders.
@@offspringfan89 ur right, my bias was from EposVox video 3-4 years ago, just got updated with the Tom's Hardware video encoding benchmark.
Apparently gaps between AV1 encoders (NVENC, QSV, AMF, CPU) are between 1-2 VMAF points now and in some cases they are equal. Also FPS for QSV is a little bit lower as well so having the 7940HS will be indeed beneficial
Bonus points from me for supporting 22110 format NVMe drives! I fear to go and look at the CDN price on this...
Great video review as always -- appreciate the in depth coverage. I've been waiting for this video since you teased the MS-01 in the short.
I know you recommended keeping below 25w, but the Minisforum website claims it can support a RTX A2000 Mobile so I'd have loved to see that claim tested. While you have a lot of server/IT fans, there's probably a lot of crossover for people who like gaming/workstation content and would like to see at least one or two cards tried out in that realm with the results documented. Thanks again, keep up the good work!
I talked about it a bit more in the main site's review today. RTX A2000 Mobile support is modders in China. We could not get a LP single slot A2000 Mobile. You also need enough power for it (240-250W power brick) and it will drop the CPU power limits and performance by adding the A2000 Mobile.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo will double back to the article, thanks.
Any other low profile half height graphics card would have sufficed. Tracking on the reduced power available and the bigger brick need. If you guys didn't have a bigger power supply for testing purposes I understand - just know there will probably be many comments asking about it (which is always good for the algorithm :V). Thanks!
4:50 I'm glad you showed the powerbrick. The website only gives you an option for a US power adapter but it doesn't say you could easily switch out the cable to suite your country.
Thank you for a more detailed clip....appreciated
Finally getting hardware that can do everything we need. Will be back for more research when I get time.
You had me at dual 10gb spf+.
Three M2 slots and a pcie, just further seals the deal.
I would like you to run your power tests in a low power configuration. Most people want a system like this as a home server. In a home server application, the idle power consumption is key and the max performance is almost irrelevant.
Yhe the 10 watt is way to much. Power is expensive and everything above 8 watt is a no no. Would love to see how low it can go.
I'd love a version with ECC support. The 13900H doesn't support it, but the HX or HRE suffixed versions would. Or perhaps something from AMD? But then we'd lose vPro.
ECC overrated for non-NAS machines anyway
@@Wahinies A multipurpose NAS is exactly what I have in mind
@@Wahinies ECC is love, ECC is life
Great report, I’ve been looking for a VM test lab hardware, the product designers can fix the voltage switch by modifying the drive bracket, such that it cannot be installed unless the U.2 is selected, simple fix with sheet metal.
I just ended up pulling the trigger and pre-ordering one of these. I already got the Quotom unit previously reviewed (Q20332G9-S10 now sold out) and mentioned in this video. With the pair of SFP+ ports, it will be an easy path to 10Gb networking. I'm not moving over on day one, so i'm glad there's still a pair of 2.5Gb ports as well. This box will be perfect for any sort of transcoding and even some AI LLM use. Can't wait to get it.
Sold out? I hope that product line isn’t dead.
I was about to buy the rack version of the R86 when I saw the announcement of this, the connectivity on this is insane! I wonder how hard it is to attach a pikvm to this (the ATX part), then it would be the perfect machine for a small cluster. The one thing that was holding me back from that unit was that I would want both SFP+ and a fast link to the rest of my network. With this I can run QFSP28 since it's PCIe 4.0 x8
Do you really need pikvm here? As far as I understood it has some sort of ipmi already in it ( on the right 2.5gb nic)
Awesome review Patrick! 👍
Rubber bands on SSD heat sinks are generally to accommodate double or single sides SSDs and allow placement to accommodate various SSD layouts. Clips or wires on a 3rd party SSD may short something.
The sound is better on the old set, some tweaking to be done.
I hope they build this with an amd 8700g. I would buy that..
Thank you.. THIS IS A PERFECT little mini pc for various uses...
The PC is neat and all, but I NEED to know why the bottom right corner of the talking head segments had a bit of the background pasted over it! Your hand passed behind it at 4:53 and it's driving me crazy wondering what could have been there that had to be edited out in post!
Thks & solves my 10Gbps problem with my Synology NAS
From a network performance point of view, which do you think it’s better?
This one or the other that we’ve seen in the last review?
The m.2 slots are pcie 5.0 compatibles?
Do they comunicate directly with the CPU or they pass through the chipset?
Is there any RAID support?
Thank you
As far as that X710 issue goes, I recently received 14 new servers at work with a similar issue. While the cards install, there is no way to populate all the SFP ports, as the top port always has some obstacle. This would not work with any SFP module nor any SFP cable. So, we were stuck with just 3 ports actually being usable. Since it is just a test/education lab environment, it didn't really matter that much, but it still brings up that there are issues with any quad SFP port card and low profile. There just isn't enough room.
Very thorough and fair review, thank you Patrick.
Glad it was helpful!
When I first saw this advertised I looked at the amount of stuff you could plug in and wondered if the number of PCIE lanes would be a problem. Is that what has slowed down the SSDs? If it is, would that affect the cards going into the slot?
Quality production for the review. Interesting product, very versatile for home services. Hopefully they listen to the constructive criticism.
I wish you would do actual tests on deep packet inspection throughput. That is a far higher demanding workload for using this as a modern firewall than just routing and stateful inspection. That other mini PC you talked about in this vid for comparison doesnt even come close to 10gb routing through the firewall to WAN when running something like Surricata or ZenArmor. This one *might*, but it would be nice to see some testing and see for sure just what it can do. This one may have more cores, but it is still only 200-400MHz faster (depending on if you have the 3758R or non-R), so single traffic stream performance likely wont be more than around 1gb faster. Coming from not only the bit of extra core speed but also more IPC in this CPU.
FWIW I run Suricata on an i3-8100 which is probably considerably slower than the i9-13900H, and it only uses about 25-30% CPU for 1gbit/s down. I’ve only ever checked global CPU utilization though, so I have no idea how well spread out it is over the cores. Still, I’d be confident in this machine being able to do well above 1 gbit. Will it manage 10 gbit? I’m not sure.
Do you want to do deep packet inspection on your 10G traffic? IDS/IPS only ever made sense to me on a WAN interface to hostile external environments (aka the Internet), and those aren’t usually more than 1G links.
Love this minisforum...wish it had gen 14 so we could use it for gaming too 🙂
Thanks for the thorough review and noticing that the SSD doesn't fit
I'd be curious if you could forsake wifi and stick in a 2230 m.2 size drive to host your VM hyperadvisor or OS on (Proxmox, Truenas, Windows Server HypervV, etc) then have the 3 full sized built in m.2 drives in a RAID config.
That was part of my thought watching this. I'm searching for servers to run my office's proxmox cluster (we are moving off of VMWare after a recent renewal that almost didn't happen) I think 4 of these with a 128gb drive in the wifi slot and 3 2tb intel nvme drives would work perfect for running CEPH. 6tb usable space and the ability to run a melanox dual 25gb card is pretty tempting since I only need to store 2tb of data, just need it up all the time for medical work.
Would love to see them do more models in the same case, perhaps lower power than i9
Patrick was right. The clearance under the heat dissipation bracket and fan is so tight that you can’t even fit an ultra-thin heatsink (I.e., a .5mm silica gel pad and 1mm copper plate) on the second or third SSD (although placing it on the first SSD, which isn’t encumbered by the fan, isn’t a problem).
@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks for the review ! Could you test if ECC memory is properly recognized and used ? If so, this mini server should be a dream machine for building ZFS NAS !
no ecc
I subscribed because of the quality of your video 🎥 thank you
I'd really love to see comparision with Lenovo ThinkStation P3 Ultra and HP Z2 Mini, when they've got a decent 2.5G/SFP+ update
That might be interesting one day.
Well done!! Studio lookin' good!
Come see it again soon and check out this unit at the same time! I am around tomorrow
Thank you for evaluating this system, I am looking to purchase those to make a xcpng or pro mod cluster. And evaluate if I make a nas with it or build a custom pc.
3:47 Intel NUCs, especially those with vPro give you the option to emulate a display when none is connected. It would be nice if Minisforum could program their BIOS in a similar way.
Will the 8-bay QNAP DAS you showed work with the MS-01 running Unraid? I've heard the 16-bay version of the card does not play nicely with Unraid, but there seem to be success stories with the 8-bay...
About the PCIE slot inconvenient coverage, I have a Dremel :)
It is probably easier just to take the faceplates off, but it is a pain.
This is on sale $679 direct, that seems like a steal for this hardware. thanks for the review
New studios looking great!
You said you put the qnap card that came with the TL-D800S but it's not listed on the forum. Do you have any pics of that setup?
I wonder if a video IO would work like a BM Intensity 4K card, this would be a nice little network attached streaming/capture box with that i9 proc & iGPU.
I had hoped you would tease integrated Management (remote kvm) and BIOS (has it BIOS or is it EFI?)
PLEASE SOMEONE MAKE ONE WITH ECC MEMORY! So many mini PCs, so many good options, yet none support ECC :/ I'll take ECC over quad NICs any day.
... Why?
get a used Dell, HP, or Lenovo workstation. They are as cheap as this and can support everything you need.
@@deanwilliams433 Power consumption is the problem. 7w vs 200w is all that matters for 24/7 use when electricity is 40c/kwh
Doesn't DDR5 have ECC or will it be DDR6
I think it would be neat to see how many drives you could fill a jbod with using a 3.5" sbc so it can be a drive and fan only system. I have a wafer-adl-p that can support 32 drives.
Would adding a warning label that’s visible even when a SATA drive is installed be enough to address the concern regarding the M.2 port voltage setting?
I would very much like to know if you can boot off the m.2 E key (wifi) slot? I would like to install a IDSDMs in that slot as the target for the OS, use the PCIE slot to put 2 more m.2 drives in there and run a 20TB Unraid box that hosts my pfsense, my NAS and services. I just wish I could fit more m.2 SSDs, but can only figure 5 total.
Great review! Since the 2.5Gb ports are different (Intel i226-V/i226LM), would they still work fine (supported) on OPNSense as a router for WAN/LAN? ProxMox? Thanks!
Edit: Yes, I am aware this unit is probably overkill for such a basic scenario, just curious about compatibility.
They have been supported since the driver was first introduced 3 years ago.
I have not been able to hand out dhcp leases using the i226LM nic for some reason using a NUC12, running pfsense/proxmox. The i226-V works fine, I have not worked out why.
@@0bsmith0 i226-V is no problem of course, but the i226LM is my concern.
@@le4fkicker That was my concern, thanks for clarifying. Not sure why that would happen, especially if the hardware is detected. Maybe a setting. I have read something about AMT needs to be disabled by SMBus or CSME settings in order to get DHCP Server working, but not sure if that would apply here. Also, have heard this specific problem on pfSense, so maybe a setting/driver issue. Curious if OPNSense has this problem...
@@terminalvelocity4858 yeah its not great as I have to run pfsense on a different port. I have AMT enabled with dedicated static ip set in the bios on the i226LM interface. I guess I could fire up a opnsense vm when I have some time...
what's the usecase for this? the cpu is overkill for networking and the networking is overkill for generic homelab use
Have you seen any mini pc that is capable of running ECC memory?
Wonder if they could make some 1u rack fins for it. didn't check the dimensions but it looks like it is about the size of some of those half width switches.
On their webpage they show it as 48mm and Google shows that 1U is 44.45mm. Frustratingly close
I've ordered this and waiting for the delivery. Thanks for the review. I was waiting for it.
What program were you using to display the info on the TV?
What if you inserted a PCIe to OCuLink card in there?
You should get better external GPU performance than thunderbolt
good video 😀 Do you have any idea if it can use on-die ECC so-dimm
This is super cool. It has basically everything. Only way it could be better, is 1x25G instead of 2x10G. No front facing USB Type-C is a bit meh, but not a big deal. Would definitively be nice to see evolution of this. I am not in a need at the moment, but definitively interesting.
Why one 25Gbs? I see two 10Gbs much more useful for a firewall device or router.
@ServeTheHome maybe is worth to mention ( as a note ) that 96GB of RAM is supported only on the model with the Intel i9-13900H, the one with the i9-12900H only supports 64GB of RAM according to Intel design.
Thank you.
It may be worthwhile to test more than 64 gb on the 12th gen as Intel ark limits on ram isn't always a hard limit. The Intel N305 seems to work well enough with 32gb to have mini PCs ship with it even though it's limited to 16gb according to Intel.
@@Lollllllz I've place the order for Intel 12th gen edition, maybe I can check on mine when arrives. I'll let you know, but I'm not confident it will works
Upon further review, this is no longer as clear. Intel may very well have implanted a hardware block on the H CPUs out of spite for OEMs. Who's got a 12th gen coming that's willing to burn some money?
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STH has tested 12th gen with 48 GB DIMMs, so this is incorrect. ruclips.net/video/HylKpDmwaFA/видео.html
Intel 12th gen absolteuly supports these DIMMs, and the mobos *should* be identical so there's no reason the 12th gen model won't. As always, documented support and actual support are never the same thing.
@@MattNukem that particular CPU is listed to support up to 128GB by Intel, not surprise it works with a single 48GB SODIMM or a total of 96GB in 42GB by 2
Most important information is missing. What are the PCIe speeds of the PCIe and M.2 slots?
Does it have a TPM? Do you know what part numbers are used for the 32GB RAM/1TB option?
I still find it hard to decide what to do. Will the C3758 get 4 Gbit/sec over PPPoE with OPNsense, or do I go for something like this which I'm sure the CPU won't be a bottleneck. the I3-9100 I tried this with had very high CPU usage. My ISPs router must contain some special ASIC to be able to do this. Or do I go with the C3758 and get something like VyOS to be able to get rid of the PPPoE uses only 1 core limit.
This thing seems like a dream. Do you still need ecc with ddr5? I heard it has certain ecc features by design in ddr5?
ddr5 has on die ECC to assist in some error correction due to the shrunk node size, but its not the same as the server grade ECC we're used to. That will still be a separate feature
Wonder when/if ecc memory will become the standard.
is 64GB enough ram for virtualisation? 96 as you tested seems more reasonable, but in only 2 slots this gets expensive.
This is insanely crazy awesome! :D Want one! No wait 40! :D
Anyone tried running this as an OPNsense router bare metal with Suricata/ZenArmor? Was wondering how the 13900h holds up with threat protection... Might make a ncie small router...
Great video, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you! Good job!
Great. Another new device I didn't know I needed. RIP paycheck.
Did you try a pci controller with SFF-8088 connector?
Can be a nice solution for a small backup storage, and proxies generator.
It is in the video. Yes, he tried. It works. Check the forum for the list of cards tested.
power efficiency mode figures would have been interesting, to use as a server
I have heard the qnap m.2 carrier has issues with Phison based nvme drives, not sure what you had in that unit just FYI.
Hey, looks great product !
What happened to that SFP cage? Looks like its slightly mangled.
Wow, the best small server available!! Got all that you want!
So theoretically cpu performance should be enough for becoming a router, nas, firewall, vpn combo?
Hey @ServeTheHome. I've bought exactly same set (MS-01 and QNAP TL-D400S) and MS-01 doesn't see my Qnap controller (I've tried Windows and Linux). Did you set something special in BIOS to have it working or maybe my motherboard is broken?
Strange. It worked out of the box. Did it boot but not show the controller? Usually when cards failed the system did not boot. When we first installed it I thought it was not working but then the drives showed up.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo this is strange. My model doesn’t recognise this QNAP controller, I’ve checked under windows and Linux. lspci doesn’t display it. The only difference is the processor, you had 13900 and mine is 12900. Maybe some differences in BIOS.
And yes, it boots, but no controller. I’ve checked the controller in DELL server and it was recognised and worked.
I just wish there was a racknount version. That could be small enough to mount it into small wallmounted network racks