And they got away with it more pre Internet when not everyone knows all their b.s zenue stuff.whats really puzzling is how they STILL do it.when it doesn't take spending 250gs to figure out now they fullnof shit.
Everyone please press the like button we need this information out far and wide, not only on cults but also having critical thinking or we are going to loose our language, and right to free thinking. Thanks andrew good vibes to the universe 🙏 for you at this stressful (understatement) time.
I am wearing my hail xenu hoodie and a string of ghost lights around my neck, representing my body thetans. I think I might wear this for Halloween 😂😂😂❤
@@ninjawizard3865 lots I imagine, but there's only around a hundred of them in Ireland so the chance of meeting one would be most unlikely. They're an endangered species. We'll have to put a few in the zoo for posterity 😂😂😂❤️
@@ugoakusoba4094 not sure about that, jehovah has infinitely more death and destruction on his bloody hands than scientology's paltry numbers. All organised religion is a scam to abuse and rip off the little people and keep them under control.
I still don’t understand how anyone could get caught into this. Celebrities with their noses in the air completely baffle me because now I know how absolutely dumb they really are
And just think how intelligent Tom Cruise considers himself, his definitely got little man's syndrome & Miscavige has as well. NUTTERS, but dangerous nutters.🤯🤯🤯🤯
It starts as therapy, self improvement. Mastering your emotions. Getting your shit together. You're brought along little by little. One level at a time. They don't get told about Xenu and all that space shit until they've been in for years and years. And it was a tightly held secret. (The internet ruined all that for them!) It works like Mormonism or Masonry or the ancient mystery religions. Incrementally. Advancing from level to level slowly. With the carrot of "secret knowledge" dangled before you.
I wouldn't need to do that,@@FRDOMFGTHR , because the xenu story is allegorical of what is found in the cosmology of many world religions, and in fact it was presented that way, and if you paid attention to what I'm saying in this thread I exited that Faith in goodwill and have moved on to activism, often defending those who are not present to or are too kind-hearted to defend themselves, you fukinNormie ignorant sprig
Wow.. great segment. I'm fascinated by this cult. I can't bring myself to ever refer to it as a church. Lafayette Ronald Hubbard.. I'd never heard his first name... no wonder they went with LRH. He developed a competitive cult. It's so hard to get out, I hope those who are stuck and need help find The Aftermath and get away. I'm subscribing to Jon, great work. Knowledge is power and truth matters. Thank you 🙏
I'm starting to wonder if we have scientologists in the highest part of our government, as well as different segments of our government. Somebody in power is helping Scientology existand keeping it from being shut down! The nationalists remind me alot of Scientology.
Interesting comment. I find it just as strange and fascinating that people can believe in god and the Bible, as I do the fact that people believe in Xenu and scientology. As someone who did not get indoctrinated in either belief system from childhood, both creeds are similarly weird to me. It's funny that we know that every culture and corner of the globe made up their own beliefs and still everyone still believes they are the only ones who are right.
@@Ginnilini If you belong to a church and decide you want to leave and the church literally will lock you up or chase you down and take you back, that's not a church, it's a cult. I admit I don't go to church as often as I should. I don't fear someone coming to look for me and forcing me to go to a building that I can't get out of.
This gentleman explains why my son's father behaved the way he did. Closes a lot of doors on the pain my son and I experienced. I have learned to forgive him for his involvement with this cult.
Sergeant Peppers Lonely Heart Band by the Beatles, look up the cover. The bald guy at the top, second person on the top left, is Aleister Crowley. His symbolism has been used by the Beatles. (and other bands...) He also influenced LRon Hubbard. If you are a narcissist, his methods will turn you into something much worse. One example already given by the guest speaker is Charles Manson. Another example is Jimmy Savile.
Jon is just great! I love his voice. He speaks concisely and clearly. He talks in a way you can understand! And, boy, does he know his stuff! He read a book or books for this interview alone!
Andrew I really loved this interview!! It was incredibly informative, and I found it to be fascinating lol - the way he was able to simplify/condense/present in layman’s terms the last 50 years of research he’s done into Scientology, Hubbard, Hubbard’s manuscripts (and all the comparative studies he’s done with those writings), and even his interviews with former Scientologists!! I believe you have a gift for interviewing people, and it takes more than simply being able to ask the right questions… You are an effective communicator - a good listener - and I really enjoy watching your channel. Thank you!
It's good! BTW, what does "deadset" mean in the context you used it? I've only heard it being used, as in, "I'm dead-set against it," or dead-set against something 🫠
@@Julia-uh4li Its Australian slang lol, so you got it right in your last paragraph, so basically it just means like “seriously” or “honestly” or “no word of a lie”. So for example “I honestly just realised 8 minutes…..”
I love John Atack! He is making me ROFLMAO! I think he should be a prerequisite course in high school and university! 😂😂 Keep up the good work Andrew and John! 👍😊
Would love to hear more about New Age religious cults etc , seems like anyone can be a cult leader with social media and some predatory skills Everyone wants to be a “Healer” aka special Just fascinating! Thanks for your investigative journalism!
Remember when I was a kid in the 70s and you know we didn’t have cable they used to advertise L Ron Hubbard’s book Dianetics all the Time on TV. My parents just said it was junk. It sounds like Elron Hubbard was on a constant acid trip really.
Hello Andrew if you think about it Scientology has been emotionally 🖤been murdering families since it started , shame is a word which should be tattooed on their foreheads by the people who have lied as a way of life , I ask myself FOR WHAT!!!!!
You’re absolutely right there , when a child falls over at a young age , does your mum or dad say , there there you’ll be alright , And the mother says nothing of the father says nothing. This behaviour or example , of no empathy toward a child creates problems in the child’s head which creates problems for the new adult that the child does become. Terrible problems.
Scientology is sort of like Mormonism. Mormonism teaches that you, too, can become a god, if you do all the right things and learn all the right secret words and handshakes.
Hello Jon and Andrew, I absolutely loved this episode. Jon you are the only ex-Scientologist a level 25. Who knows now, it’s is all the most ridiculous BS! You are the only X-SCI, that I have understood. Meaning you do not act, like you are an X-SCI. Because of all the interviews, I have tried to listen to with Andrew and others. That gave me an explanation of, true Scientology 😮 without feeling that you are being lied to. Or that had the whole story, you broke this down perfectly. With facts and a lot of experience. Thank you!
I could honestly accept the Xenu, volcano, reincarnation, "crazy" ideas more than I can understand how they treat people in their "church" now. Afterall, it's not really crazier than things we find in our mainstream religious stories. I just can't wrap my head around abusing people, and destroying families.
SHARE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS 🙏🇬🇧🇺🇸 join the dots.THANKYOU Andrew and Jon because it sounds crazy but seriously look around you 🙏 this is present still and we do walk amongst monsters 👿
Great information about this ludicrous so-called religion. All religions do have some "out there" beliefs and practices, but Scientology is in a class all on it's own. Scientology would definitely categorize me, thankfully, as a suppressive.
One of the best guests you could have. His book is brilliant. For a hot minute, Amazon stopped selling the book. B&N continued to sell them. I bought ten because I was so scared it would be gone! This man is brilliant!
1:00:39 Very interesting to hear that Manson was involved with Scientology. Especially considering that he was seemingly using hypnotic techniques on his cult members. I would LOVE to read Jon’s book once it comes out! I’ve read Tom O’Neil’s book ‘Chaos’ about Manson’s involvement with Jolly West, the CIA & MKUltra etc. and I’d love to learn more about the Scientology aspect. It seems as though a lot of these players are very much intertwined with one another. 1:01:49 The 1946 Babalon Working ritual that L Ron Hubbard participated in with Jack Parsons (rocket scientist) has always intrigued me. Jack Parsons was also a member of the Ordo Templi Orientis (Crowley’s cult.) Clearly both Parsons and Hubbard were fans of Aleister Crowley. Ekk 😣 *Side-note: Does anyone know if Scientology has any additional connections with OTO other than Hubbard’s work being heavily inspired by Crowley? Do these cults have any crossover?* I remember reading a story about 15 years ago written by a guy who had a one night stand with Peaches Geldof (daughter of singer Bob Geldof) and unfortunately for her he had some x-rated photos to prove it. They shot up heroin together, slept together, hung out etc. At around 8am she asks him to drive her somewhere, he did but barely remembers doing so. At 1pm he awakes in a sauna, throwing up everywhere and starts freaking out. He looks around and sees her outside of the sauna on an exercise machine, he’s extremely confused. He then reads some pamphlets and realizes he’s in Scientology’s Celebrity Center in LA doing the purification rundown aka ‘Purif.’ _(Yikes! The purification rundown sounds like absolute torture on its own, doing it all whilst going through opiate withdrawal would be pure hell!)_ *TLDR: Guy does heroin with & sleeps with Peaches Geldof (socialite), wakes up in a Scientology purification center.* *I bring this story up as I find it interesting that Peaches was openly involved in Scientology for awhile, but not long after she then joins Ordo Templi Orientis and even she gets the letters “O.T.O.” inside a heart tattooed on her arm. Many of her Instagram photos are of stacks of Crowley’s books etc.* *I’m curious to know if OTO (or any other occult “secret societies”) crosses over with Scientologists? If anyone knows or has any theories please leave a reply* 😊❤️
All roads lead to Rome (Vatican) all famous cults operate the same way.look them up and remember the names.This is prevalent today and still operates. I believe Freemasonry is the biggest worldwide cult.Research The club of Rome,The knights Templer,skull of bones.Luciferians,Cabala,all connected to the light barer SATAN.Very powerful people are involved and their symbolism is everywhere!!
Nobody IN Scientology can know more about it than than someone like Jon. An ex-Scientologist who’s learned nearly everything about it from the inside, only to eventually realize the truth and dedicate their lives to learning everything those still on the inside are banned from even knowing exists.
Hi I’m sorry to tell you, that I have to leave your channel. It’s not because I don’t like you anymore, it’s just because RUclips have decided that the Premium Lite membership that I have enjoyed to much, is no longer available. Now it’s only possible to get the standard Premium membership, which means a price increase of 73%. Sure, they throw a bunch of other stuff into the membership, but I don’t care about that. If I did, I would have chosen that membership from the beginning. This change from RUclips means that you will lose subscribers = income. Unless RUclips has increased payment to you now that they are charging paying members more money, then this should be a problem for you. It has been a pleasure following you.
Re Jon's comment of famous people having narcissistic traits, we all have a level of narcissism in us, though mostly in healthy ways. Famous people with healthy narcissism to give 3 examples is Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and Jen Aniston. Then you get the problematic narcissism in people like Cruise and Miscavige. Narcissism can also be genetic. My maternal side have a narcissism streak. Not everyone is affected, but my female sibling (refuse to call her my sister) is a mid range covert narcissist (think Rachel (Meghan) Markle. My brother is also a narcissist. I'm finding this podcast extremely informative and psychologically interesting.
Scientology rather is enslaving for sure. Whether or not you believe in Jesus, Christianity as reflected in the Bible has the intention of setting one free.
Discussions like this are great because of the potential of the human imagination, especially under the influence of some stressor of some kind, like an ancient herb for example. I often find myself wondering about the greed that started off many of the most successful civilizations. War is a form of greed that causes great shifts in society. I wish it weren't necessary, but often, it seems to be. Why can't we just learn from our mistakes? What is stopping us from reaching our full potential? Is greed the problem? Why can't we abolish it? Scientology is an expression of greed.
wow first I've heard of the Manson/Scientology Tate connection, I always thought because Manson got slated by Melcher and went looking for him and came across Tate and being the jealous narcissist he was ordered their killings.
Did Cruise not learn the bit about controlling emotions? Just wondering as someone who has never been in a cult. This is so good I've actually created a Scientology folder and saved it. Might actually take notes from it for some university research paper if given the chance. I'm completing my 9th and final degree (the only one for pure enjoyment and not career). I'm completing my BA with a double major in Ancient History and Philosophy. I might be able to use it in a Philosophy argumentative essay or a research paper in one of my final year of study assessments. People have asked how people get into cults: cults will prey on the vulnerable in some way. You often find cults (in disguise) on university campuses in O Week. For those not Australian, I don't know what your terminology is, but O Week is the week when new students turn up on campus if interested, to look around the campus, and attend information 'classes' in the lecture theatres to show what that unit will be about etc. There are also food/drink stands and stands were different groups can hand out pamphlets. I'm sure the States have these weeks or days, but I apologise for not knowing your terminology for it. The subject of Trump followers has been compared to blindly following people. As an Aussie, it has always been the general consensus here that the Trump supporters we've viewed as, and it has been many because they always made the news in Australia, people who have a few kangaroos loose in the top paddock. Just FYI, I'm not a christian, I'm a spiritualist. My heritage is Celtic Druid and I believe in the old ways. My wee Scottish grandma started teaching me ' the old ways' when I was 4 in age appropriate ways, which is normal. Science is continuously proving spiritualist teachings to be correct. The Christian community get their noses out of joint because it debunks the lies and exaggerations in the chirstian bibles. I wish everyone the best in life, and hope that everyone finds balanced peace within their lives. Much love from the tropics, by the ocean, from summer in Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺
This subject doesn't interest me but the "Ars-Liccus" thumbnail is irresistible! Haven't watched the whole video but I expect the reference is somewhere in the vicinity of Cacasmentalis.
The big question that emerges here is : HOW can people believe all this insanity ??
How can people believe in Donald Trump???
@@richardbierman9856 really scary
@@richardbierman9856 maybe some believe what DT is saying, but not in the depth of religion belief ..
still terrible , though ;))
@@Ana_Sor4ever you do realise some of the evangelical types think God has sent Trump, right?
@@richardbierman9856 maybe some people would think that , but a true christian wouldn’t.
Jon is a terrific guest and he is so informative.
YES ma'am, agreed 👍, love from Texas ❣️
YES ma'am, agreed 👍, love from Texas ❣️
Amazing. I could listen to him talk all day
I have been astounded at this guests knowledge and how he shares it so that I can easily understand it.
"Until Ron Hubbard came along and told us what to think." 😂😂 Classic!
How can people believe this? I'm dumbfounded.
They don't know this until they are $250,000+ in. It's a pay to learn "religion" 🤦♂️
@@kelliintexas3575 it's so crazy and dishonest
Imagine learning this exactly after having spent all that time and money.
@ninjawizard3865 it could cause a depression and anger. If you have extra money, give it to a food bank or take a trip.
And they got away with it more pre Internet when not everyone knows all their b.s zenue stuff.whats really puzzling is how they STILL do it.when it doesn't take spending 250gs to figure out now they fullnof shit.
Jon deconstructs scientology so well.
Alexander Hamilton said, "if you don't believe in something, you'll believe anything."
Jon Atack is a very interesting man. Thank you,Andrew.
Everyone please press the like button we need this information out far and wide, not only on cults but also having critical thinking or we are going to loose our language, and right to free thinking. Thanks andrew good vibes to the universe 🙏 for you at this stressful (understatement) time.
Jon is hilarious, entertaining, and super interesting. Thank you!
Jon would have been the best History and Religion teacher ever 👍
Ok but not mejority it's western countries not all over world mind it's first sir
This is one of the most interesting and eloquent guests! Thanks Andrew, really enjoyed all of it. His knowledge and delivery of it is riveting.
And funny
What incredible nonsense is Scientology! Very interesting interview.
Bro world not perfect what about Israel vs pilphinse so don't compare anyone wrong all r equal
@@r.k.m9801what 💀💀💀
I am wearing my hail xenu hoodie and a string of ghost lights around my neck, representing my body thetans. I think I might wear this for Halloween 😂😂😂❤
😂😂😂
I wonder how many scoentologists that would freak out on halloween. 👻
@@ninjawizard3865 lots I imagine, but there's only around a hundred of them in Ireland so the chance of meeting one would be most unlikely. They're an endangered species. We'll have to put a few in the zoo for posterity 😂😂😂❤️
Hail Yashua JEHOVAH only
@@ugoakusoba4094 not sure about that, jehovah has infinitely more death and destruction on his bloody hands than scientology's paltry numbers. All organised religion is a scam to abuse and rip off the little people and keep them under control.
I still don’t understand how anyone could get caught into this. Celebrities with their noses in the air completely baffle me because now I know how absolutely dumb they really are
And just think how intelligent Tom Cruise considers himself, his definitely got little man's syndrome & Miscavige has as well. NUTTERS, but dangerous nutters.🤯🤯🤯🤯
It starts as therapy, self improvement. Mastering your emotions. Getting your shit together.
You're brought along little by little. One level at a time. They don't get told about Xenu and all that space shit until they've been in for years and years. And it was a tightly held secret. (The internet ruined all that for them!)
It works like Mormonism or Masonry or the ancient mystery religions. Incrementally. Advancing from level to level slowly. With the carrot of "secret knowledge" dangled before you.
Because it works and it allows you to feel better about your life and who you are. The critics are cowards in the face that which may be different
@@Vibeagainlol say hi to xenu for me buddy
I wouldn't need to do that,@@FRDOMFGTHR , because the xenu story is allegorical of what is found in the cosmology of many world religions, and in fact it was presented that way, and if you paid attention to what I'm saying in this thread I exited that Faith in goodwill and have moved on to activism, often defending those who are not present to or are too kind-hearted to defend themselves, you fukinNormie ignorant sprig
Absolutely adore Jon Atack so interesting and informed, completely entertaining at the same time👍👍👍❤️🤷♀️
This gentleman has a wealth of knowledge and beyond. Thank you.
Andrew, you look so tired in this video! Don’t overwork yourself, take some time so you don’t burn out! Fantastic interview, great job! ❤️
Wow.. great segment. I'm fascinated by this cult. I can't bring myself to ever refer to it as a church.
Lafayette Ronald Hubbard.. I'd never heard his first name... no wonder they went with LRH. He developed a competitive cult. It's so hard to get out, I hope those who are stuck and need help find The Aftermath and get away. I'm subscribing to Jon, great work. Knowledge is power and truth matters. Thank you 🙏
I'm starting to wonder if we have scientologists in the highest part of our government, as well as different segments of our government. Somebody in power is helping Scientology existand keeping it from being shut down! The nationalists remind me alot of Scientology.
Wow i had never heard his first name either…. Not at all what i wouldve expected! Lol
This is as crazy as a nomad sitting in a desert cave and hearing voices in his head telling him to kill anyone who doesn't want to join his club.
These ideas are ludicrous even for science fiction let alone a “belief system”.
Unless I am wrong and a lot of times I am, Jon Attack is the real deal.
Jon is one of my fave guests & is incredibly informative. Awesome interview yet again Andrew 🙌🏽
I find it strange that people will believe what this sci-fi writer wrote but don't believe a word of the Bible and what God says.
Amen to that!!
Interesting comment. I find it just as strange and fascinating that people can believe in god and the Bible, as I do the fact that people believe in Xenu and scientology. As someone who did not get indoctrinated in either belief system from childhood, both creeds are similarly weird to me. It's funny that we know that every culture and corner of the globe made up their own beliefs and still everyone still believes they are the only ones who are right.
@@Ginnilini If you belong to a church and decide you want to leave and the church literally will lock you up or chase you down and take you back, that's not a church, it's a cult. I admit I don't go to church as often as I should. I don't fear someone coming to look for me and forcing me to go to a building that I can't get out of.
Men wrote that book too though, maybe they weren't as whack as Hubbard?
People will believe absolutely any old crap.
Awesome! Jon Atack is fantastic! Thank you!🌠🎆⭐️
Absolutely FASCINATING!!!! It is a composite lesson of the Craziness of Scientology beginnings.
This gentleman explains why my son's father behaved the way he did. Closes a lot of doors on the pain my son and I experienced. I have learned to forgive him for his involvement with this cult.
I can't wait for this!
Sergeant Peppers Lonely Heart Band by the Beatles, look up the cover. The bald guy at the top, second person on the top left, is Aleister Crowley. His symbolism has been used by the Beatles. (and other bands...)
He also influenced LRon Hubbard.
If you are a narcissist, his methods will turn you into something much worse. One example already given by the guest speaker is Charles Manson. Another example is Jimmy Savile.
Jon is just great! I love his voice. He speaks concisely and clearly. He talks in a way you can understand! And, boy, does he know his stuff! He read a book or books for this interview alone!
LRH believed in everything but dentistry it looks like. In all his photos he looks like an ad for halitosis cures.
There is only one ending for the devil and his followers
Andrew I really loved this interview!! It was incredibly informative, and I found it to be fascinating lol - the way he was able to simplify/condense/present in layman’s terms the last 50 years of research he’s done into Scientology, Hubbard, Hubbard’s manuscripts (and all the comparative studies he’s done with those writings), and even his interviews with former Scientologists!!
I believe you have a gift for interviewing people, and it takes more than simply being able to ask the right questions… You are an effective communicator - a good listener - and I really enjoy watching your channel. Thank you!
I deadset just realised 8 minutes in that my mouth had a huge smile on it cause i was giggling so much - great video you guys
It's good!
BTW, what does "deadset" mean in the context you used it?
I've only heard it being used, as in, "I'm dead-set against it," or dead-set against something 🫠
@@Julia-uh4li Its Australian slang lol, so you got it right in your last paragraph, so basically it just means like “seriously” or “honestly” or “no word of a lie”. So for example “I honestly just realised 8 minutes…..”
I love John Atack! He is making me ROFLMAO! I think he should be a prerequisite course in high school and university! 😂😂 Keep up the good work Andrew and John! 👍😊
Unbelievable! Thank you for this Andrew and Jon! 👌🏻🙏🏻👏🏻
I saw your last interview with Mr.Atack. It was a great interview. So glad you have him back again. Great guy! Good sense of humor. Love him.
WOW! I could listen to Jon forever. Fascinating research and delightful delivery. :)
Would love to hear more about New Age religious cults etc , seems like anyone can be a cult leader with social media and some predatory skills Everyone wants to be a “Healer” aka special Just fascinating! Thanks for your investigative journalism!
Best guest ever, love this guy!
Big Jon Atack fan here. Great discussion.
First time I’ve heard anything about Jon Atack…very interesting!👍
Great to have Jon Atack back! :)
love Jon. great conversation Andrew
Remember when I was a kid in the 70s and you know we didn’t have cable they used to advertise L Ron Hubbard’s book Dianetics all the Time on TV. My parents just said it was junk. It sounds like Elron Hubbard was on a constant acid trip really.
I love this Guy👍👏👏Jon has so much Humor😂🤣
At the End Jon talks about all the victums of Scientology and I am
feeling very sorry for all the victums 😥
Hello Andrew if you think about it Scientology has been emotionally 🖤been murdering families since it started , shame is a word which should be tattooed on their foreheads by the people who have lied as a way of life , I ask myself
FOR WHAT!!!!!
I love Jon and Andrew! Ty❤
Great interview Andrew .This man exudes knowledge and intelligence for starters. Bery informative and enjoyable
The things that people will say and do to deny that God exists!
You’re absolutely right there , when a child falls over at a young age , does your mum or dad say , there there you’ll be alright , And the mother says nothing of the father says nothing. This behaviour or example , of no empathy toward a child creates problems in the child’s head which creates problems for the new adult that the child does become. Terrible problems.
Wish a filmdirector would make a horror movie about Scientology , mountain traps and volcanos 🧪🦠⚔️🧨⚰️💸📡📽️🏦🌋🚀🎟️🤹🏾🥚☄️💥🌚👽
Scientology is sort of like Mormonism. Mormonism teaches that you, too, can become a god, if you do all the right things and learn all the right secret words and handshakes.
Mormonism is also a cult
Thank you. I finally know where my many and persistent internal voices came from.😁
Hello Jon and Andrew, I absolutely loved this episode. Jon you are the only ex-Scientologist a level 25. Who knows now, it’s is all the most ridiculous BS! You are the only X-SCI, that I have understood. Meaning you do not act, like you are an X-SCI. Because of all the interviews, I have tried to listen to with Andrew and others. That gave me an explanation of, true Scientology 😮 without feeling that you are being lied to. Or that had the whole story, you broke this down perfectly. With facts and a lot of experience. Thank you!
The abilities that they promised, are possible elsewhere and otherwise, without their seamy organization.
I could honestly accept the Xenu, volcano, reincarnation, "crazy" ideas more than I can understand how they treat people in their "church" now. Afterall, it's not really crazier than things we find in our mainstream religious stories. I just can't wrap my head around abusing people, and destroying families.
All religions destroy peoples lives, they live a lie, no matter what religion it is. It’s sad
Scientology is much crazier!
Sounds like you’re a candidate to join up.
@@Desertflower743 😂
And, sadly, that's what they do.
Andrew, get on Marc to have Jon on. He’s a wealth of knowledge!😂❤
What’s frightening is that Tom C and those on the higher OT levels know the fiction/lies and continue to push the cult on those in and recruited.
How f***n insane.
SHARE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS 🙏🇬🇧🇺🇸 join the dots.THANKYOU Andrew and Jon because it sounds crazy but seriously look around you 🙏 this is present still and we do walk amongst monsters 👿
Freaking LOVE Jon atak!
It's a Cult!
The look on Andrew’s face. 😂😂😂
Great information about this ludicrous so-called religion. All religions do have some "out there" beliefs and practices, but Scientology is in a class all on it's own. Scientology would definitely categorize me, thankfully, as a suppressive.
Why is it I know more about Scientology than I do the religion I was raised in? 😊
Really cool interview, and so informative about the cult of scientology ❤
Just ordered Jon’s book A Piece of Blue Sky.
When Tom Cruise received that big award and wore the metal. He looked like a fool.
One of the best guests you could have. His book is brilliant. For a hot minute, Amazon stopped selling the book. B&N continued to sell them. I bought ten because I was so scared it would be gone! This man is brilliant!
1:00:39 Very interesting to hear that Manson was involved with Scientology. Especially considering that he was seemingly using hypnotic techniques on his cult members. I would LOVE to read Jon’s book once it comes out! I’ve read Tom O’Neil’s book ‘Chaos’ about Manson’s involvement with Jolly West, the CIA & MKUltra etc. and I’d love to learn more about the Scientology aspect. It seems as though a lot of these players are very much intertwined with one another.
1:01:49 The 1946 Babalon Working ritual that L Ron Hubbard participated in with Jack Parsons (rocket scientist) has always intrigued me. Jack Parsons was also a member of the Ordo Templi Orientis (Crowley’s cult.) Clearly both Parsons and Hubbard were fans of Aleister Crowley. Ekk 😣
*Side-note: Does anyone know if Scientology has any additional connections with OTO other than Hubbard’s work being heavily inspired by Crowley? Do these cults have any crossover?*
I remember reading a story about 15 years ago written by a guy who had a one night stand with Peaches Geldof (daughter of singer Bob Geldof) and unfortunately for her he had some x-rated photos to prove it. They shot up heroin together, slept together, hung out etc. At around 8am she asks him to drive her somewhere, he did but barely remembers doing so. At 1pm he awakes in a sauna, throwing up everywhere and starts freaking out. He looks around and sees her outside of the sauna on an exercise machine, he’s extremely confused. He then reads some pamphlets and realizes he’s in Scientology’s Celebrity Center in LA doing the purification rundown aka ‘Purif.’
_(Yikes! The purification rundown sounds like absolute torture on its own, doing it all whilst going through opiate withdrawal would be pure hell!)_
*TLDR: Guy does heroin with & sleeps with Peaches Geldof (socialite), wakes up in a Scientology purification center.*
*I bring this story up as I find it interesting that Peaches was openly involved in Scientology for awhile, but not long after she then joins Ordo Templi Orientis and even she gets the letters “O.T.O.” inside a heart tattooed on her arm. Many of her Instagram photos are of stacks of Crowley’s books etc.*
*I’m curious to know if OTO (or any other occult “secret societies”) crosses over with Scientologists? If anyone knows or has any theories please leave a reply* 😊❤️
All roads lead to Rome (Vatican) all famous cults operate the same way.look them up and remember the names.This is prevalent today and still operates. I believe Freemasonry is the biggest worldwide cult.Research The club of Rome,The knights Templer,skull of bones.Luciferians,Cabala,all connected to the light barer SATAN.Very powerful people are involved and their symbolism is everywhere!!
Scientologist! No thank you!
Loving this interview! Watched the ten minute clip first, was so intriqued HAD to watch full interview. Well done!
How can you sit there with a straight face😂😂😂?
Jon is definitely grinning the whole time, for sure!
Tom has Napoleon Complex, and he's holding the whole thing together 😅😂😅
I love Jon he’s so adorable
Brilliant!
There are zero satanic rituals in Scientology
@blownforgood get Jon Atack on your show!!!!! What a conversation we will enjoy!!!!
Scientology feels like
1984 by Orwell
I remember the L Ron Hubbard advertisements on tv for his book it was science fiction I always thought I didn’t know it would start a cult
Nobody IN Scientology can know more about it than than someone like Jon. An ex-Scientologist who’s learned nearly everything about it from the inside, only to eventually realize the truth and dedicate their lives to learning everything those still on the inside are banned from even knowing exists.
I love it when you have John on!
Heaven is like Busch Gardens 😂
If one believes on something, someone and feels happy, satisfy sometimes respected, revered, successful, one doesn't want to just leave it behind.
They could honestly just practice dissociation if they wanted to be three feet behind themselves 🤣
Anyone noticed the overusage of the term Narcissistic ?
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Re Jon's comment of famous people having narcissistic traits, we all have a level of narcissism in us, though mostly in healthy ways.
Famous people with healthy narcissism to give 3 examples is Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and Jen Aniston. Then you get the problematic narcissism in people like Cruise and Miscavige.
Narcissism can also be genetic. My maternal side have a narcissism streak. Not everyone is affected, but my female sibling (refuse to call her my sister) is a mid range covert narcissist (think Rachel (Meghan) Markle. My brother is also a narcissist.
I'm finding this podcast extremely informative and psychologically interesting.
R.O.F.L. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Funniest thing I have watched today! ❤
Scientology rather is enslaving for sure. Whether or not you believe in Jesus, Christianity as reflected in the Bible has the intention of setting one free.
Excellent once again
Jesus is love
Haven't you been listening? Xenu created Jesus.😂
YHWA is GOD The King of creation Jesus Christ died on the cross on Calvary and one day every knee will bow down and ever tongue will confuse ❤🙏🏼
Earth 5,949 years of age
No. 8,888 years. You're welcome.
John Travolta and Tom Cruise believe all this?
Was L Ron Hubbard a Skitzophrenic???
Sin is what is ruining our lives. The only solution is Jesus Christ, who promises that all who believe, and call upon his name will be saved.
Discussions like this are great because of the potential of the human imagination, especially under the influence of some stressor of some kind, like an ancient herb for example. I often find myself wondering about the greed that started off many of the most successful civilizations. War is a form of greed that causes great shifts in society. I wish it weren't necessary, but often, it seems to be. Why can't we just learn from our mistakes? What is stopping us from reaching our full potential? Is greed the problem? Why can't we abolish it? Scientology is an expression of greed.
wow first I've heard of the Manson/Scientology Tate connection, I always thought because Manson got slated by Melcher and went looking for him and came across Tate and being the jealous narcissist he was ordered their killings.
Did Cruise not learn the bit about controlling emotions? Just wondering as someone who has never been in a cult.
This is so good I've actually created a Scientology folder and saved it. Might actually take notes from it for some university research paper if given the chance. I'm completing my 9th and final degree (the only one for pure enjoyment and not career). I'm completing my BA with a double major in Ancient History and Philosophy. I might be able to use it in a Philosophy argumentative essay or a research paper in one of my final year of study assessments.
People have asked how people get into cults: cults will prey on the vulnerable in some way. You often find cults (in disguise) on university campuses in O Week. For those not Australian, I don't know what your terminology is, but O Week is the week when new students turn up on campus if interested, to look around the campus, and attend information 'classes' in the lecture theatres to show what that unit will be about etc. There are also food/drink stands and stands were different groups can hand out pamphlets. I'm sure the States have these weeks or days, but I apologise for not knowing your terminology for it.
The subject of Trump followers has been compared to blindly following people. As an Aussie, it has always been the general consensus here that the Trump supporters we've viewed as, and it has been many because they always made the news in Australia, people who have a few kangaroos loose in the top paddock.
Just FYI, I'm not a christian, I'm a spiritualist. My heritage is Celtic Druid and I believe in the old ways. My wee Scottish grandma started teaching me ' the old ways' when I was 4 in age appropriate ways, which is normal. Science is continuously proving spiritualist teachings to be correct. The Christian community get their noses out of joint because it debunks the lies and exaggerations in the chirstian bibles.
I wish everyone the best in life, and hope that everyone finds balanced peace within their lives.
Much love from the tropics, by the ocean, from summer in Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺
This subject doesn't interest me but the "Ars-Liccus" thumbnail is irresistible! Haven't watched the whole video but I expect the reference is somewhere in the vicinity of Cacasmentalis.