I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
*Text to Speech(1968):* "I'm sure our descendants will find this very useful!" *Text to Speech(2022):* "Guys!! Spy doesn't think big chunggus is funny!"
@@Spo0kl I watched the Phoenix Wright and the Voiceless voice acting video from him, and the House Of the Dead 2 video as well, pretty good stuff. And now I nhave realized he has 4 other besides that, I think I will watch it sometime in the future.
I'd like to add on that AI is best used in tandem with normal actors. In Wall-E for example, most every robot was voiced by a human. Auto, the evil steering wheel, was intentionally voiced by an AI. This made it cold and uncaring, compared to the lively other robots, who had emotion and personality. If Auto was voiced by a human VA, then it would feel a lot more sympathetic. If every robot was voiced by an AI, then the movie would be a nightmare to sit through.
@@GameyRaccoon sure but “artificial intelligence” still gets the point across about the use of text-to-speech to give a colder, less human tone as opposed to real voice actors. I think it is still clear the point that is being made regardless of whether or not they used the correct term.
*Those Damn Alien Bastards Stole My Voice* Hey man sorry I'm two weeks late to this, I actually didn't even know it went up for a week and then it took another week for me to muster the attention span to watch something for more than 60 seconds. But you killed it, this is even better than I thought it was gonna be when you told me about it, and I already knew it was gonna be pretty good. I'm really glad to see you doing stuff other than shitposts - not that there's anything wrong with shitposts - but you're a truly brilliant mind and incredible talent and one of the things I'm looking forward to the most in the future is seeing all the things you will do and achieve. People don't realize how much of a real one you are, because you don't even try to make sure they know, that's how much of a real one you are. You don't aspire for greatness, you aspire to do something you like and to not be an asshole. To me, that's infinitely more valuable, and I think other people will feel that way too as they see more of you in the field. As for the subject itself in the video - you covered it brilliantly. I learned a lot from this video. I know we already talked but my take on the whole thing is, perhaps a bit reckless, but I just don't worry about it too much. Not saying other people should all do that, I mean I personally just kinda checked out. I've been hearing "aren't you scared this is gonna kill ur job" for years as I continue to do VO, at a certain point you just get bored of waiting to be killed off and just get back to work. I mean I recognize the threat, and the problems, but as you said, it's a whole lotta If. The way I see it is, it's really only a matter of time til the wrong companies smell money and realize that memberships are being sold for literally hundreds of dollars a month made with shit they own, and I reckon a whole legal shitstorm is gonna hit the fan. I'm kinda just waiting til I can call a 1800 number on my TV to get $20 from a lawsuit. I'm not interested in fully stopping technological development, but I definitely do think this kind of thing is gonna need to see some regulation from folks who know a whole lot better than I do. Hell, I hope you'll be one of them. But you know how lumbering law and companies can be. They'll show up 15 years late to the news, slam their dick on the table and ask for a paycheck. You might've mentioned it in the video but I'll say it here for the girl reading this - any amateur creator with no money who wants voices, there are plenty of places to get voice actors for free (provided your project isn't making income either). Newgrounds, Voice Acting Club, and the Casting Call Club just to name a few. Many good folks with great voices very eager to work on projects of all budgets and sizes, all the way down to $0. It's fun, it builds some portfolio, a bit of networking, and most of all, experience, everyone wins. It's opportunities like those that helped me build the career I am lucky enough to have today. Luke, I am so glad you're around. Videos or not, you just keep being you. Thank you.
too be honest, I think ai and human voice actors will probably just co-exist without one replacing the other. both has its uses, pros and cons. but only time will tell if they really could co-exist.
this man actively posted funny voiceovers of memes for almost 4 years, disappeared, came back and proceeded to post one of the most easy to understand video essays that manage to look very presentable without trading away quality of explanation. got damn!!
@@revolver265 i feel bad for never actually replying back but i recently got titanfall and will totally watch that one after i finish it, thanks for the reccomendation man
The only synthesised voice I can think of that has a recognisable presence and perhaps even equal standing to real voice actors (or actors in general) is Hatsune Miku of Vocaloid fame. However, the only reason Miku trumps other vocal programs is because it still has that "human element". Miku not only has a set design and personality, but using her program to create music still requires effort and skill. Unlike AIs, it's not just a single prompt or button press that produces a Vocaloid song. Vocaloids are a program that require knowledge and skill when it comes to music and technology. Additionally, the community around them is generally in agreement on the "themes" or "personality" of each Vocaloid, such as Miku, and generally think carefully before selecting certain voices for the production of certain songs. Of course, the argument that creators of the Vocaloid songs should have more prominent presence in credits is a big and ongoing one, as the Vocaloids themselves are usually credited boldly as the "artists" on official releases. However, due to the celebrity-like reputation of a Vocaloid like Hatsune Miku, it can also be argued that simply successfully using the program (or "electronic/vocal instrument") is an advertisement of the skill of the human creator behind it. Because of this and the continuous community efforts that fuel synthetically-voiced music, the "art" produced retains a human "heart" of sorts and thus naturally has more appeal than algorithm-based music/voices.
Plus, I think that part of the appeal of Vocaloids is that they sound somewhat robotic. If they tried to make Miku sound super realistic, I think people would be turned off.
@@heartbeat4atinman Maybe. I appreciate the ones that are closer to real singers too. There is a control over the voice vocaloid creators have that humans do not have, because they do not need to breathe. They make music creation more accessible and opens up avenues. The robotic voices have their own charm and appeal, but I do not think the community has been or will outright reject advances that improve the overall stability or clarity of the voices.
@@RoachOverlord My favorite is actually GUMI, since I like the vibe a lot of people add to her songs. ECHO is an absolute classic, and the lyrics are in English to boot. It's no surprise she's popular with western producers and fans.
how did we go from "Robots will do the menial tasks while humans do art and science" to "Robots will do art and science so humans can do menial office jobs"
Basically, an "art" AI only needs a computer to do it's job, while a "physical job" AI needs a way to actually do that job, like a body or shell made specifically for that task. This makes "art" AI easier to program, easier to sell and easier to have access to.
@@DR3ADNOUGHT if the CERN Large Hadron Collider experiments accidentally transferred us to a different universe in 2012, this is probably a result of that. We were promised flying cars and hoverboards a long time ago-instead, we get the same, if not even shittier, circumstances and now AI that we must slave to maintain, and they’re not even truly conscious or self-actualizing…yet.
Time Stamps Intro 0:00 Part 1 Progress 2:35 Part 2 Imitation / flattery 7:27 Part 3 Fun and games 13:06 Part 4 / Conclusion It will happen to you 20:02 Outro 28:06
I don’t really comment a lot, but I wanted to say thanks for making this video. 100% worth the wait. I’m no voice actor, but I am an artist, and the rise of AI in general has been stressing me to no end lately. You discussion on AI voices and it’s practicality, though, has eased me a bit on the subject. I’m still terrified of the future, but this made me feel… a little better. Super informative video. Love your stuff, Luke. Keep up the good work 👍
Tbh people are just freaking out about new technology. People said art was dead when the camera came about. They thought it'd completely take over. Same complaints when digital art arose too. This time, we just have social media so people are being collectively smooth brain
@@buildman126 You're not wrong, but you are missing the point a little bit. I used to make similar arguments and insist that John Henry was wrong - he may have beaten the steam engine, but he lost in the end anyway. Innovation always wins, etc. And don't get me wrong, I do believe machine learning is a good thing, and will do wonders for art and music and whatever else it's applied to. But I don't think it's necessarily irrational for artists to fear it either. Yes, it's good for society. But is it good for THEM? Was "well, the steam engine is much better than you" really any comfort for the people who lost their jobs in the 1800s and were plunged into the brink of starvation? Probably not. But that said, I don't think machine learning is really all that bad for artists, except insofar as it lowers the barrier for entry and allows more to participate with less training. Raw imagination becomes more important than technical skill. It's a tool like any other, and the good artists will adopt it quickly and use it to make better art than ever before. Artists are right perhaps to feel worried and insecure, but there's reason for optimism and excitement too, I think.
@@mikewaters2126 your right AI can be used as a tool and like any tool it can also be misused and abused, Ai art in its current form is not being used like a tool, it's beginning used by people who either have no understanding of art or no appreciation for it either Ai art current is used by techbros and techheads as a way to "replace" artists when that's not, nor is it possible. At least not for a few more decades or more so. Ai art isn't the same as how art is made by a human, maybe it's pure basic form but that's it, when it comes to art humans will still have a need and place, as for Ai art it can be in its own categorie and help artists with the initial stages of coming up with concepts but really that's it. I've used it a few times with a few different sites and so far it's neat and I can see it working as help so I'm not against it just how it's currently being used by taking people's copyright work.
i wrote a bit ago regarding AI Art in the way it seems to be very much "novelty"-based. The issue I found is being inside the community a lot of it doesn't really *aim* to be "art" when you accept the premise of it, and the outcome is very chaotic in such a way it feels you need to spend more time fixing it than getting results. Plus a current critique that it has no real sense of continuity like many other a-artists (but this is "what is art" territory which i wanted to avoid mainly to have a productive conversation). It's novel and accessible, like you say, but doesn't really bode as a serious thing to use. The point of "the people using AI to "replace" were not going to use real people anyways" was a good point as well.
It's novel for now. As it becomes more normalized other facets in the creative world will slowly see a decrease in human involvement with studios opting for the easier option of AI. It's going to suck, but if it's somewhat good and it sells, it could very well signal an end of an era. Just like how talkies replaced silents and not every silent star had a voice for them.
Well... We *have* seen an artist (don't remember her name sadly) get her art used as the training for an AI in order to make art that is *very* similar to her own, which is a bit fucked up in my opinion
It’s the unfairness the art community is feeling, their collective work is being plugged into a machine and used it to churn out gazillions of images. They are not being commentated for it which is important since the ultimate goal of these softwares is to replace artists working in the industry. It’s an important issue to address since this won’t just be limited to artists, VAs or programmers who’s data is the most accessible making it easier to train ML models, this applies to almost any field which uses digital software and can store data. Companies are already selling data cuz they know how precious this stuff is, people have been warned about data privacy for sooo long. Now imagine companies monitoring their employees and collecting their data to plug it into a ML software and ultimately replace a big chunk of the workforce. That is very likely where’s the future is heading. I know ubi and all will be implemented but that does not prevent the short term mass disparity and lay offs people are gonna experience. If government isn’t pushed now, people WILL suffer worldwide the rich will get richer and poor poorer. The working class is gonna have a read hard time catching up then
@@me-ry9ee There will be no UBI, only politicians complaining about people not wanting to push themselves to be better than machines while the same politicians receive kickbacks from AI work.
there's a youtube comment from a professional translator that said that his job had lost a lot of economic viability after machine translation became popular, because in spite of the translation being vastly inferior the average commissioner had no idea of the efforts it took to actually translate something so they'd lowball the amount of money they're willing to spend on a translator because "they can get something similar for free" regardless of how much worse or nonsensical this "similar" translation was they'd even get people coming to them with awful machine translations and try to pay them less than half of his usual commission price because "they just had to fix it" ignoring that the translation was so bad the professional would often have to start from scratch with the raw material and i think that's gonna happen to art too, the average commissioner is going to produce something shitty with AI and then demand artists give them a cheaper price because "the job is already half done" when it would take far more effort to fix up the thing instead of redrawing it from scratch (especially with the amount of people who use someone else's AI and call themselves artists in spite of not being involved in the development of the AI or the input of the learning content)
It's weird that it's suddenly such a popular joke now, particularly the second half. I feel like the whole "this sure is a thing that exists" joke has been around forever but is spiking now
Never have I ever imagined the idea of Luke going from short, and punchy videos of memes, to a 30 minute documentary of AI, and maybe a voice acting future. Has time stretched liked the rings of Saturn?
@@DR3ADNOUGHTthey weren’t initially made to replace artists, but back in the day, there were legitimately tons of people who believed that Vocaloids would replace real singers because of how “easy” it was to use (which if you know anything about Vocaloids, you would know why that statement is completely false), or they believed that people would just make Vocaloids instead of hiring real singers. The only issue I have with the above comment is that Vocaloids don’t generate music. They’re voice synthesizers and technically are just no different to an actual musical instrument. You still need outside, human help to make a Vocaloid song, but you don’t really have to do that with generated art.
@@Trecherousbeast that's the big fallacy with any digital art form like take 3d animation for example. you can argue that because you don't have to learn how to draw to make smooth 3d animations, therefore it killed 2d animation. but that's not true because there are appeals still within 2d animation that aren't matched well within 3d, and 3d animation also takes a lot of effort to learn and perform really well on the other hand AI unironically can do these things much FASTER and WELL. ignoring the fact that it makes plausibly great art half the time and horrendous art the other, the issue is that it is an automated process of which can create WELL nice images, and that's terrifying cuz up to this point every advancement we've made there was still learning and a lot of trial and error to fully perfect it but AI is self improving (literally, sooner or later idk i am not well versed in that just yet) and considering how important it is in general, it is terrifyingly yet unsurprising that it will start to replicate and produce really great art at an astonishing rate one thing i wanted to say though is, how far can AI be subjective in its creations? again i only know about AI doing voice acting and art (like images and animations), but what about music? that's not something you can necessarily calculate really easily (ok there is music theory alongside genre conventions) and it's not necessarily something that LOGIC can necessarily recreate over and over again even the most delicate and fine tuned genres (basically anything within classical standards) still requires immense creativity. imo just wanted to put that out there
@@The_Jazziest_Coffee immediately I want to point out that you DO need to learn how to draw, or use 2D art to some degree to make 3D character and animation. 3D animations are still built on 2D frameworks through storyboards, animatics and even character sheets and you need to learn how to look at that and translate it to 3D. Not to mention that 3D animators still follow the 12 basic principles of animation to do their work. 3D software might be able to generate frames that go from point A to point B, but the animators themselves have to make frames A and B so that it knows where it’s going. While A.I is quick to generate full images, I still think that what makes art interesting is the thought process behind those images, and while A.I is good at faking a thought, it will never really be able to “think”. A.I has ALWAYS been a good helping tool, but it has NEVER and SHOULD NEVER be used to create an end product. That’s what I find weird about the “A.I art will replace real people art” mentality out there. We’ve been using A.I to help with certain processes for years, but no one who ACTUALLY uses A.I as a tool in their workplace would ever tell you that whatever an A.I generated should be used as a final product. It’s also this weird surface level look at art too. Everyone sees that the A.I made an interesting looking product, and they instantly believe it’s better than humans because it did it faster, even though speed isn’t really an important factor to art. A.I generated art WILL eventually look more consistent (five fingers instead of the weird sevens and eights), but that’s not really the same as consistently making good or interesting art to me. I like seeing the thought and inspiration behind art, but the only thing A.I can really do is effectively copy. Also, there are music generators out there. Only one I know about (I don’t remember its name) would generate extra music off of anything you fed to it. Pretty much, you give it a sample of Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley and you can have it generate NEW music based off of the sample you gave it. But it’s only basing its generations on patterns that it sees. It’s not basing its generations off of any knowledge about how music theory works, and it doesn’t understand the thought process behind the song, so what you get is a generation that sounds LIKE Never Gonna Give You Up, but it doesn’t necessarily sound like a continuation of the song as it claims. There’s a video on RUclips called “The HUGE Problem with ChatGPT” by Kyle Hill that perfectly describes why A.I is a “somewhat” effective tool, but why it also REALLY shouldn’t be taken so seriously as to REPLACE people.
I studied a bit of sentimental analysis and training AI to generate texts, voices and even music (which was my final project of the machine learning course I took), and I just wanna say: this video is amazing. I never knew that TTS dated back so long, and it's amazing to hear about all the different technologies that were involved. I will definitely share this video with my teacher. Thanks for creating such a gem, and don't worry about the time you took to post this. Have a nice one Luke, and thanks for the great content, as always!
Ai is stressing me out rn. 4 years ago I saw “this is not a real person” and thought, soon this will be graphic design and art in a few years. I really hope I’ll still be able to work as a 3D and graphic designer in another 4.
Honestly perfectly put. No artist in their right mind would rather have an AI voice or "act" in a project rather than a real professional. Hell, even for a basic pitch, I personally fell like i'd rather do temporary voices than that.
In my opinion ai is going to shake up the "art" landscape, same way google translate did, but it will eventually settle down into a complicated balance. You can see this in pixiv and deviant art at the moment. It STARTED as a very neat thing, seeing art that a robot was able to make. However both platforms are now starting to hate ai art with a passion. with artists getting pissed cause they can basically steal their art style without credit, and lurkers getting pissed cause their feed is getting choked by ai generated art. Same goes for voiceacting. We like the novelty of being able to make handsome jack read the bee movie script, or making shrek read porn, but it wont replace the actual voiceactors behind them. The only cases i personally think ai-voice acting can replace human voice acting is either with robot characters or backround characters that dont matter.
@@MrMoron-qn5rx i also like the fact on how the people who spam AI art on sides defend it first if you say to them that AI machine is not creative and steals art they will call that program glados or Skynet but then if you say that AI art should only be credited to the machine they immidieatly back off and say that it's just a machine and that *they* are only allowed to own the images they "made"
@@eliescobis9922 yeah, i dont really understand the "oh robots made it... but i asked for it so its mine" argument... when a artist makes your commision you dont say you made it, you say you bought it. why not the same with ai art?
@@MrMoron-qn5rxYeah, my exact thought. I hate people that call themselves AI artists. No, you're not. You're essentially claiming the chimera result of various other artists' actual work basically being stolen.
helped cool down any fears i had about the future of vo + was a great history lesson to boot. great, great stuff. never thought id see your video essay arc, but im LOVIN it 🍻
Thank you for this. As someone who's just starting in voice acting work, it's really nice to see someone take a more objective look at the development and history of AI voice work, as well as a positive outlook on the future therein
You, Gianni, and Wes have inspired me to want to practice voice acting, and I dearly hope that no artist can get replaced by ai anytime soon; not painters, not digital artists, and certainly not voice actors. Having a video like this come from you was a bit of a shock, but it was very insightful and I really appreciate it; thank you
"These act as alternatives to *nothing*, not as alternatives to professionals." Just all of this. This line hit the hardest but I'd just like to politely go off about how inspiring content like yours is, especially with this video (that youtube only just now showed me thanks). As someone who wants to be a voice actor but doesn't have a demo reel or anything but a blue snowball or who hasn't even tried recording anything yet, the real world is scary. And it's only half of mine. The other half is the internet, which is also increadibly scary. And both worlds can be cruel. Extremely cruel. Messing up could mean getting grinded to dust, so I've developed a crippling fear of failure. So with that in mind, seeing professionals like you and Gianni spend 24/7 being meme lords for us and (hopefully) for yourselves, is extremely uplifting. I outside of youtube I have no social media presence, so you guys using all of yours to show your talent by being funny haha helps a lot. And I'm not gonna act like you guys aren't afraid cause I'm sure it's scary for you guys as well, but seeing you push past it and pulling jokes is not only comforting, it helps me get back some of my drive. VA's have always been my favorite people ever, cause at least all the one's I've seen, you and Gianni, Matthew Mercer and the Critical Roll gang, SungWon Cho (ProZD), all of them seem like super chill guys that would just be riots to mess around with. So the idea that any of that could be threatened for even one second really shocked my system for a little bit and styfled my drive. After watching this video, the quote at the top of this post really hit my core. Human voices aren't going to go away. At least not as long as the people behind them, the people who love them, and the people who only watch shows to hear them have anything to say about it. All this to just say, Thanks for the video and your amazing work. Hopefully I can join in on some of the fun one day.
Dear Luke Correia. You're doing as much as you're doing and that's far more than enough. It doesn't matter if you think that maybe you could have been doing more, don't let yourself get burnt on what-ifs or what's next. You're voice brings entertainment to so many people, even if it's just a silly 5-10 second clip of some silly nonsense, and it's enough to bring a smile to tens or hundreds of thousands of people at a time. You help fundraise for amazing charities that save the lives of countless people in need, innocent people who suffer for things they have no power over but can get by because of the kindness of strangers who want to make a difference. You help make that difference. So anytime you might think to yourself, "I need to be doing more" or "this isn't enough" please, please remember that what you do is enough to make people happy. If three weeks from now, you decide upload a 7 second clip of a chubby rat on a plate of spaghetti saying "I could never..." but then saying "but maybe?" as some garlic bread pixelates into existence, remember that that those 7 silly seconds of a rat having room for more garlic bread will have made people smile, and some of those people might donate to a good cause if you ask them to. You're a good person Luke, and that's more than enough.
Another thing I’ve found recently is that there are entire programs now that allow people to convincingly change their entire voice. Some bloke on Twitter did it for an NSFW video to make himself sound like a woman and no-one knew until he straight up said “it was me lol”. It feels like something as such could snowball into something much larger and much more destructive to the industry tbh
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 Stable Diffusion algorithms don’t work like that, dude. It’s no more theft then a human making a collage. The whole picture is now a new creation and has separate identity away from the original artists.
@@JamesP7 copyright infringement is a literal crime punishable by a maximum of 10 years imprisonment, a $250,000 fine, or both. Mid journey is going to be sued sooner or later
*I'm glad that you're doing ok, posting videos or not. This one was a great watch and I really appreciate the long content!* *Happy new year, merry holidays, and may the next year be calm and boring (unlike the previous ones)*
I want to thank you for this video. I was getting absolutely disheartened about ai copying and shadowing artists, voice actors, music producers. And yes there's still a chance things go downhill. But your explanation really helps to ease my soul in these scary times. It reminded me back in the 2000s people saying downloading mp3s would absolutely destroy music and no one would afford to make creative work again. This didn't happen. Of course AI stuff needs to be regulated and hopefully there's people working on it. It just also hurts a bit on the existential dread of "can a machine do what I'd do? What humanity is worth now?". Thanks!
Highly suggest you make a followup video considering every new development that's come out with AI voice technology. It's gotten a lot more serious as of late.
I really hope that AI voices aren't completely replaced by mimics. I prefer the robotic voices of Sam and others like it, it really gives them a unique personality that a normal human can't reproduce.
Welp. I hope there’s a followup to this video, because it’s already aging very poorly in the face of AI stealing the identity of voice actors in a very serious way…
While this video is about voice actors, it did help calm me a bit with my fears over AI art. It's a good reminder that the average person who doesn't want to pay for art (or can't) isn't the one holding the job offer in the first place. While it doesn't excuse the rude behavior AI art bros have when it comes to interacting with real artists (read: spitting on their hard earned skills), it's a very good reminder to hear that they aren't the ones who will pay the bills anyhow ALSO I really enjoyed hearing your voice again Luke! You have a fantastic voice for video essays like this, but please take care of yourself. I will be here if you continue to create content and I'll still be here if you don't. I love your fun meme videos, they've brought me so much joy. Thank you for all of your hard work, man
Nice to see someone is talking about this from this point of view. When talking about art and artists people always think of the ones who draw and paint, but nobody thought of the other types of art. There's AI mimicking voices, making music out of samples (though still quite primitive, for now), and even writing full length novels. It's scary tbh
So this is what you’ve been toiling on in your dungeon. I now demand a funny within the next week. But in all seriousness this is an insanely entertaining and well informed dive into artificial speech that I never thought I’d find interesting. People like you and Gianni have made me and others respect and appreciate voice actors in ways we never considered. The fears behind the rise of AI in art have always seemed overstated to me before but I now really understand why many creators fear the heart and soul of their craft disappearing in Lou of something cheap and soulless. While that seems to be a problem for the far future for now, I can only hope we do our best to keep the human soul and creativity in art. It would be a tragedy for you and other passionate people like you to be lost forever in seas of corporate profits. Please keep doing what you do, your passion and love for the craft is palpable and always enjoyable.
I didn't expect the funny meme voice acting guy to make a serious video on AI but it has made me feel a lot better about the future regarding it. The past while I've been feeling quite cynical and pessimistic about AI, especially regarding AI art, but you've given me some perspective and hope that things won't all go to sh*t. You're right, the people using these technologies were likely never going to commission an artist or hire a voice actor in the first place, and poeple who have a creative vision would not settle for AI. I'm still uncertain about our future with AI, but you've made me feel a bit more hopeful about it. Thanks you, funny internet meme voice acting dude
Luke, I have to say you've really outdone yourself here. I definitely saw you as the funny meme man like I do Gianni, but this is a fascinating video on the level of Ahoy. Good job man.
As a concerned artist, thank you greatly. A lot of the arguments I've heard around Ai replacing different kinds of artists have been almost entirely emotional. This video is far more practically minded, and brought up some good points.
Very thought-provoking topic. I find AIs fascinating, although the thought of them replacing human ingenuity is terrifying. I suppose we'll see. Many concepts and ideas our ancestors deemed _ridiculous_ if not _impossible_ ended up not only becoming real, but mainstream. Much as I'd like to believe in the sweet fantasy of "artificial life can't ever fully replace/take over humanity, humans are special and stuff", it'd be extremely naive of me to pretend what personally comforts me cannot be misinformed or misleading. Merry Christmas btw. At least pure H2O will always be what it is, refreshing and awesome, which I'm drinking rn. Stay hydrated you guys. 👍
AI can only replace people if they become people. Art is the emergent result of consciousness, which is the emergent result of biomechanics. In order to compete with artists AI must first become capable of being artists. And if any AI achieves a level of consciousness indistinguishable from that of a human - or even a raven or an elephant or a dolphin - the correct terms to refer to that AI are "person" and "artist".
@@FelisImpurrator Last part is iffy. You wouldn't refer to a dolphin or raven as a "person." But I get what you're saying. My point was, I can't be certain of future advancements and how advanced AI will become, say, 200 years from now. I will obviously be long dead by then probably, but it's still fun to think about. People in the 20th century had lots of fun fantasizing about the 21st too. It's crazy reading _futuristic_ sci-fi from the 50s and seeing what people thought the future would probably look like lol.
@@howdypartner8326 Of course I would. Because the science is very clear that they have sufficient intelligence to be considered people. What more could possibly matter in that context? Just as an example. The average raven is at least as smart and communicative as a human child. They have theory of mind, which means they can process the idea of other animals existing and having different motives from them. They can use tools, communicate in sophisticated ways, learn the face and gait of a human (which is impressive considering how shit humans are at telling apart nonhumans) and pass that knowledge across generations... What part of that is insufficient to be considered a person?
@@FelisImpurrator That's fascinating. I remember hearing of crows being remarkably intelligent for animals, but them (along with dolphins and whales apparently) actually being sapient is mind-blowing news to me. Now that I think about it, my dog is _technically_ a person. She may not have the freedom that I do, as she isn't an independent citizen, but she's registered legally under me, has a name and is clearly capable of retaining information, thinking, passing it on and being self-aware. I suppose yes, you're right, they are people in a way. More like uneducated, primitive people (like certain tribes that still exist) but still people. It's obvious their perception and experience would be different from ours due to our different biology, but if being sapient alone is sufficient for something (or someone in this case) to become a person, then you'd be right. Unfortunately I'm no expert in this field, but I'm aware that sapience is probably the biggest part of what makes us "people." I believe Chimpanzees were still the closest to humans in intelligence, however, and the numerous attempts to integrate them into human society (especially after adulthood) have produced numerous catastrophic failures. Then again, I suppose being _human_ isn't a necessity to be a person. Otherwise any race that lives differently than humans despite being equals if not surpassing humans in intelligence and perception would also not be people. Humans that fail their humanity by acting uncivilized and animalistic would also not be considered people. That last part actually doesn't sound that bad in all honesty. TL;DR: Apologies for the text wall. In summary, you're right. I suppose they could be considered people, and what I was thinking of was more along the lines of being considered human, rather than being considered a person.
25:51 Even though cars have replaced horses as daily transportation, horses and equestrianism have not disappeared from society. They're just relegated to competitive, ceremonial, and recreational uses. The same could be said about steam trains, antique cars, typewriters, early computers, or any other form of "outdated" technology: there will always be people who continue using older tech simply because they like to.
Or because they can't, the entire third world including South Asia (my ancestral home) and Africa. A lot of these countries have way too much on their hands, whether it be wars or dumb ideologies and weak currencies and science sectors make it difficult to advance that far
@@PasscodeAdvance Very true. I have Caribbean ancestry, and they still drive oxcarts on some islands. (In my original comment, I was specifically focusing on Europe and North America, but I know the rest of the world isn't always the same.)
This was a great video! One thing I’ve been worried about with AI is the people who want to just do something small. Quick D&D character art, a quick inside joke, it doesn’t matter what it is. The point you made about AI art often being an alternative to nothing really hit home. Sorry if this is incoherent, just wanted to express my appreciation for a well-researched video that took a reasonable stance on AI art as a whole.
"... while they tend to vary pretty wildly between genres..." *COMDEY / COMEDY / HORROR / HORROR* come on you had to have laughed at that at least once in the editing process
I'm really glad this got recommended to me after your upload break! It's nice to see a video essay from a channel I thought just did memes. I value your perspective as a voice actor -- great job!
With singing synthesizers, like vocaloid, you can manually tune the tone of the voice to be realistic, unlike typical text to speech (a technique called talkloid) but it takes a lot of practice to make natural sounding talking speech.
you're not trying to make realistic speech with a vocaloid though? vocal synths in music production are chosen over human singers normally as a deliberate design choice, because they are *different*. the vocals are clearly not human, and the "artist" is an established celebrity of sorts that producers can utilise the fame of to their advantage
@user-dl5gy6lc2n you are so wrong lol, you clearly haven't looked at much of the vocal synth community. Some people prefer robotic synths like utau but more companies that are more relevant than vocaloid now are deliberatley made to be realistic as possible with AI like Cevio and SynthV. Some animators like to use vocal synths for voice acting because it's fun and we like the novelty of making a character sing.
@@scatmanjohnfan22 yes the end point of vocaloid is that it's a novelty. it's not mimicking any existing person and it isn't trying to be human. I'm pretty sure we fully agree on the matter and it's just an error of phrasing so sorry if that's the case
Love this. I noticed this being a topic of discussion a couple months back, but the visual art debacle drowned it out. Glad to get some actual info on it.
Thanks for putting this out. Its really thoughtful and well put together. AI art can still freak me out a little bit but at least AI VA won't for a while.
Having seen a few creators burn out on the regular upload schedule problem, seeing you go for less frequent, longer form content, if that's a plan to stick with it in the future, I'm all for it ♥️
Automation is kinda scary, but unlike with self-driving cars where the best driver for insurance companies is "one who never gets in an accident and pays their small insurance fees" (from CGP Grey's "Humans Need Not Apply", a great video) voice actors have an ease of access and humanity that is eye-opening. They are currently easier to instruct and as long as that always remains so, you all will have a job. I also suspect that'll be the case for a long while, because AIs just aren't there yet to grasp the way people want something said. I wanted to wait a little while till I found a good time to watch this with my full attention, so sorry for being late to the party. Your essays are still as great as ever. And remember: those of us who are here aren't "sticking with it". We're here "sticking with you". We're may be here for your content but we're also here for you.
First off, thanks for the Vid! Good stuffa Secondly, I can see it AI voices being utilized in voice acting in three ways: quick and dirty ADR work (need Jon Johnson to scream onions for a scene, but he's already on another project?), small bit lines where a background character is saying hello or something, and most importantly, for games with super advanced dialog trees. Before voice acting in video games became the mainstay that it is, certain western RPGs and adventure games could have these seemingly massive (for the time) conversation trees, where you could go so far as to to ask about something you learned in the game, barter with npcs, etc. Once voice acting became more and more important in triple A gaming, conversations had to become more streamlined. Gone are the days of selecting a noun to talk about, now all you can talk about is reduced to four or less options. And God forbid you have a part voiced, part text game! The humanity! This is what AI voices would finally usher in, a return to simply typing out "ask about onions" and having a voice respond, or perhaps even better, saying it outloud into your headset. The player gets a super advanced game and the actor doesn't have to spend 40 hours n a recording booth talking about the different types of onions
This is a really wonderful video, amazing editing and a good voice. It's great to see how you pick at all the different views on the topic. Hope you continue making these videos, they're really special.
this video is extremely well done. i normally cant sit through videos like this, but i had no problem with this video. its not just the topic, its the talent and time spent into this video. 10/10
It's funny that now eleven labs had released their AI voice generator, which is hilariously closer to the human voice. So, maybe just a year before it gets completely indistinguishable? Idk
This was a well put together video. It covered almost every point on the subject, and gave a spectacular answer to the question. Well done funny voice man
A lot of the worries with vocaloid early on was that it would replace the celebrities whom it was sourced from On an unrelated side note there is a mashup of that original ibm singing “Daisy, Daisy” along with Hatsune Miku and it’s adorable. Great video Mr. Correia, well worth the wait!
Was thinking about this a few days ago while downloading skyrim mods that use xVASynth and how people felt about text to speech and AI voicing. The quality of line delivery is kinda spotty but I think its way better then the no voice acting at all days. Still doesn't beat good ol' line splicing. Watching this video also reminded me of the text to speech mod for Stardew Valley (Pelican TTS). It really did add something to my playthrough experience. Anyways, Great Video.
Sorry for the wait.
It’s good man, we love everything you do
No worries. This is probably the best Christmas gift we never deserved
Thank you luke korea
I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
it feels weird seeing the funny meme voice actor guy talking seriously
i like it. i hope he does more
It’s kind of funny seeing that he doesn’t do a "the voice".
If drink gas, you are car.
ok?
It also feels good.
*Text to Speech(1968):* "I'm sure our descendants will find this very useful!"
*Text to Speech(2022):* "Guys!! Spy doesn't think big chunggus is funny!"
*descendents, not predecessor
*Commotion of disbelief*
"Yep, Spy doesn't think that Big Chungus is funny."
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter Thank you for correcting me
what beautiful history
That spoy isn't one of us
Luke’s making documentaries now. I love this world.
well, he did make that documentary on Titanfall 2 a long LONG while back
@@Spo0kl I watched the Phoenix Wright and the Voiceless voice acting video from him, and the House Of the Dead 2 video as well, pretty good stuff. And now I nhave realized he has 4 other besides that, I think I will watch it sometime in the future.
@@attilasedon9593 And the Oblivion voice acting video.
He's always been making documentaries, it's just that they weren't viewed as much.
I'd like to add on that AI is best used in tandem with normal actors.
In Wall-E for example, most every robot was voiced by a human. Auto, the evil steering wheel, was intentionally voiced by an AI. This made it cold and uncaring, compared to the lively other robots, who had emotion and personality. If Auto was voiced by a human VA, then it would feel a lot more sympathetic. If every robot was voiced by an AI, then the movie would be a nightmare to sit through.
It's not an 'ai' it's just regular-ass text to speech.
@@GameyRaccoon shush
glados is proof that audio filters can do anything
@@GameyRaccoon everyone knew what they meant buddy
@@GameyRaccoon sure but “artificial intelligence” still gets the point across about the use of text-to-speech to give a colder, less human tone as opposed to real voice actors. I think it is still clear the point that is being made regardless of whether or not they used the correct term.
*Those Damn Alien Bastards Stole My Voice*
Hey man sorry I'm two weeks late to this, I actually didn't even know it went up for a week and then it took another week for me to muster the attention span to watch something for more than 60 seconds. But you killed it, this is even better than I thought it was gonna be when you told me about it, and I already knew it was gonna be pretty good. I'm really glad to see you doing stuff other than shitposts - not that there's anything wrong with shitposts - but you're a truly brilliant mind and incredible talent and one of the things I'm looking forward to the most in the future is seeing all the things you will do and achieve. People don't realize how much of a real one you are, because you don't even try to make sure they know, that's how much of a real one you are. You don't aspire for greatness, you aspire to do something you like and to not be an asshole. To me, that's infinitely more valuable, and I think other people will feel that way too as they see more of you in the field.
As for the subject itself in the video - you covered it brilliantly. I learned a lot from this video. I know we already talked but my take on the whole thing is, perhaps a bit reckless, but I just don't worry about it too much. Not saying other people should all do that, I mean I personally just kinda checked out. I've been hearing "aren't you scared this is gonna kill ur job" for years as I continue to do VO, at a certain point you just get bored of waiting to be killed off and just get back to work. I mean I recognize the threat, and the problems, but as you said, it's a whole lotta If. The way I see it is, it's really only a matter of time til the wrong companies smell money and realize that memberships are being sold for literally hundreds of dollars a month made with shit they own, and I reckon a whole legal shitstorm is gonna hit the fan. I'm kinda just waiting til I can call a 1800 number on my TV to get $20 from a lawsuit. I'm not interested in fully stopping technological development, but I definitely do think this kind of thing is gonna need to see some regulation from folks who know a whole lot better than I do. Hell, I hope you'll be one of them. But you know how lumbering law and companies can be. They'll show up 15 years late to the news, slam their dick on the table and ask for a paycheck.
You might've mentioned it in the video but I'll say it here for the girl reading this - any amateur creator with no money who wants voices, there are plenty of places to get voice actors for free (provided your project isn't making income either). Newgrounds, Voice Acting Club, and the Casting Call Club just to name a few. Many good folks with great voices very eager to work on projects of all budgets and sizes, all the way down to $0. It's fun, it builds some portfolio, a bit of networking, and most of all, experience, everyone wins. It's opportunities like those that helped me build the career I am lucky enough to have today.
Luke, I am so glad you're around. Videos or not, you just keep being you. Thank you.
too be honest, I think ai and human voice actors will probably just co-exist without one replacing the other. both has its uses, pros and cons. but only time will tell if they really could co-exist.
Fun fact: Gianni likes writing essays.
Bro spitting facts
hey Gianni you should do a fraggy friday type thing for titanfall I think that would be pretty cool
Lmao I not reading that
this man actively posted funny voiceovers of memes for almost 4 years, disappeared, came back and proceeded to post one of the most easy to understand video essays that manage to look very presentable without trading away quality of explanation. got damn!!
He has done video essays before, if you want more check out the essay about Titanfall's acting making you feel :)
@@revolver265 i feel bad for never actually replying back but i recently got titanfall and will totally watch that one after i finish it, thanks for the reccomendation man
Well, now Luke’s long absence makes sense.
The only synthesised voice I can think of that has a recognisable presence and perhaps even equal standing to real voice actors (or actors in general) is Hatsune Miku of Vocaloid fame. However, the only reason Miku trumps other vocal programs is because it still has that "human element". Miku not only has a set design and personality, but using her program to create music still requires effort and skill. Unlike AIs, it's not just a single prompt or button press that produces a Vocaloid song. Vocaloids are a program that require knowledge and skill when it comes to music and technology. Additionally, the community around them is generally in agreement on the "themes" or "personality" of each Vocaloid, such as Miku, and generally think carefully before selecting certain voices for the production of certain songs.
Of course, the argument that creators of the Vocaloid songs should have more prominent presence in credits is a big and ongoing one, as the Vocaloids themselves are usually credited boldly as the "artists" on official releases. However, due to the celebrity-like reputation of a Vocaloid like Hatsune Miku, it can also be argued that simply successfully using the program (or "electronic/vocal instrument") is an advertisement of the skill of the human creator behind it. Because of this and the continuous community efforts that fuel synthetically-voiced music, the "art" produced retains a human "heart" of sorts and thus naturally has more appeal than algorithm-based music/voices.
vocaloid slays
Plus, I think that part of the appeal of Vocaloids is that they sound somewhat robotic. If they tried to make Miku sound super realistic, I think people would be turned off.
@@heartbeat4atinman Maybe. I appreciate the ones that are closer to real singers too. There is a control over the voice vocaloid creators have that humans do not have, because they do not need to breathe. They make music creation more accessible and opens up avenues. The robotic voices have their own charm and appeal, but I do not think the community has been or will outright reject advances that improve the overall stability or clarity of the voices.
I'm more of a Luka fan myself
@@RoachOverlord My favorite is actually GUMI, since I like the vibe a lot of people add to her songs. ECHO is an absolute classic, and the lyrics are in English to boot. It's no surprise she's popular with western producers and fans.
how did we go from "Robots will do the menial tasks while humans do art and science" to "Robots will do art and science so humans can do menial office jobs"
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Basically, an "art" AI only needs a computer to do it's job, while a "physical job" AI needs a way to actually do that job, like a body or shell made specifically for that task. This makes "art" AI easier to program, easier to sell and easier to have access to.
@@DR3ADNOUGHT It’s still completely f**ked.
@@thelouster5815 Never said it wasn't. This whole situation is making me fucking paranoid.
@@DR3ADNOUGHT if the CERN Large Hadron Collider experiments accidentally transferred us to a different universe in 2012, this is probably a result of that. We were promised flying cars and hoverboards a long time ago-instead, we get the same, if not even shittier, circumstances and now AI that we must slave to maintain, and they’re not even truly conscious or self-actualizing…yet.
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Intro 0:00
Part 1 Progress 2:35
Part 2 Imitation / flattery 7:27
Part 3 Fun and games 13:06
Part 4 / Conclusion It will happen to you 20:02
Outro 28:06
hi frank
Thank you frank.
Yoooooo frank :D
I don’t really comment a lot, but I wanted to say thanks for making this video. 100% worth the wait. I’m no voice actor, but I am an artist, and the rise of AI in general has been stressing me to no end lately. You discussion on AI voices and it’s practicality, though, has eased me a bit on the subject. I’m still terrified of the future, but this made me feel… a little better.
Super informative video. Love your stuff, Luke. Keep up the good work 👍
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Tbh people are just freaking out about new technology. People said art was dead when the camera came about. They thought it'd completely take over. Same complaints when digital art arose too. This time, we just have social media so people are being collectively smooth brain
@@buildman126 ok green text anon
@@buildman126 You're not wrong, but you are missing the point a little bit. I used to make similar arguments and insist that John Henry was wrong - he may have beaten the steam engine, but he lost in the end anyway. Innovation always wins, etc.
And don't get me wrong, I do believe machine learning is a good thing, and will do wonders for art and music and whatever else it's applied to. But I don't think it's necessarily irrational for artists to fear it either. Yes, it's good for society. But is it good for THEM? Was "well, the steam engine is much better than you" really any comfort for the people who lost their jobs in the 1800s and were plunged into the brink of starvation? Probably not.
But that said, I don't think machine learning is really all that bad for artists, except insofar as it lowers the barrier for entry and allows more to participate with less training. Raw imagination becomes more important than technical skill. It's a tool like any other, and the good artists will adopt it quickly and use it to make better art than ever before. Artists are right perhaps to feel worried and insecure, but there's reason for optimism and excitement too, I think.
@@mikewaters2126 your right AI can be used as a tool and like any tool it can also be misused and abused, Ai art in its current form is not being used like a tool, it's beginning used by people who either have no understanding of art or no appreciation for it either Ai art current is used by techbros and techheads as a way to "replace" artists when that's not, nor is it possible. At least not for a few more decades or more so.
Ai art isn't the same as how art is made by a human, maybe it's pure basic form but that's it, when it comes to art humans will still have a need and place, as for Ai art it can be in its own categorie and help artists with the initial stages of coming up with concepts but really that's it. I've used it a few times with a few different sites and so far it's neat and I can see it working as help so I'm not against it just how it's currently being used by taking people's copyright work.
>releases 30 minute banger
>refuses to elaborate
>vanishes again
A.I found him. It's too late. He may be lucky to post ever again.
You know it's gonna be wild when Luke drops a 30min video
i wrote a bit ago regarding AI Art in the way it seems to be very much "novelty"-based. The issue I found is being inside the community a lot of it doesn't really *aim* to be "art" when you accept the premise of it, and the outcome is very chaotic in such a way it feels you need to spend more time fixing it than getting results. Plus a current critique that it has no real sense of continuity like many other a-artists (but this is "what is art" territory which i wanted to avoid mainly to have a productive conversation).
It's novel and accessible, like you say, but doesn't really bode as a serious thing to use. The point of "the people using AI to "replace" were not going to use real people anyways" was a good point as well.
It's novel for now. As it becomes more normalized other facets in the creative world will slowly see a decrease in human involvement with studios opting for the easier option of AI.
It's going to suck, but if it's somewhat good and it sells, it could very well signal an end of an era. Just like how talkies replaced silents and not every silent star had a voice for them.
Well... We *have* seen an artist (don't remember her name sadly) get her art used as the training for an AI in order to make art that is *very* similar to her own, which is a bit fucked up in my opinion
It’s the unfairness the art community is feeling, their collective work is being plugged into a machine and used it to churn out gazillions of images. They are not being commentated for it which is important since the ultimate goal of these softwares is to replace artists working in the industry.
It’s an important issue to address since this won’t just be limited to artists, VAs or programmers who’s data is the most accessible making it easier to train ML models, this applies to almost any field which uses digital software and can store data. Companies are already selling data cuz they know how precious this stuff is, people have been warned about data privacy for sooo long. Now imagine companies monitoring their employees and collecting their data to plug it into a ML software and ultimately replace a big chunk of the workforce. That is very likely where’s the future is heading.
I know ubi and all will be implemented but that does not prevent the short term mass disparity and lay offs people are gonna experience. If government isn’t pushed now, people WILL suffer worldwide the rich will get richer and poor poorer. The working class is gonna have a read hard time catching up then
@@me-ry9ee There will be no UBI, only politicians complaining about people not wanting to push themselves to be better than machines while the same politicians receive kickbacks from AI work.
there's a youtube comment from a professional translator that said that his job had lost a lot of economic viability after machine translation became popular,
because in spite of the translation being vastly inferior the average commissioner had no idea of the efforts it took to actually translate something so they'd lowball the amount of money they're willing to spend on a translator because "they can get something similar for free" regardless of how much worse or nonsensical this "similar" translation was
they'd even get people coming to them with awful machine translations and try to pay them less than half of his usual commission price because "they just had to fix it" ignoring that the translation was so bad the professional would often have to start from scratch with the raw material
and i think that's gonna happen to art too, the average commissioner is going to produce something shitty with AI and then demand artists give them a cheaper price because "the job is already half done" when it would take far more effort to fix up the thing instead of redrawing it from scratch
(especially with the amount of people who use someone else's AI and call themselves artists in spite of not being involved in the development of the AI or the input of the learning content)
Luke dropping this absolute gem is the probably the best Christmas present ever
*I love when Luke said "It's acting time!" and acted all over the voice. Truly one of the Voice Actors of all time.*
i have seen this joke so fucking much
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@@george1248 This isn't a joke. It's true.
It's weird that it's suddenly such a popular joke now, particularly the second half. I feel like the whole "this sure is a thing that exists" joke has been around forever but is spiking now
@@george1248 it’s not a joke
jokes are supposed to be funny
Never have I ever imagined the idea of Luke going from short, and punchy videos of memes, to a 30 minute documentary of AI, and maybe a voice acting future. Has time stretched liked the rings of Saturn?
Time is a flat circle, so yes.
Utauloid and Vocaloid haven't replaced singers, they've given composers a voice to use.
Also vocaloids don't try to replace singers either. (At least for me) part of the appeal is the slight robotic-ness in their voices
They weren't made to replace singers in the first place.
@@DR3ADNOUGHTthey weren’t initially made to replace artists, but back in the day, there were legitimately tons of people who believed that Vocaloids would replace real singers because of how “easy” it was to use (which if you know anything about Vocaloids, you would know why that statement is completely false), or they believed that people would just make Vocaloids instead of hiring real singers.
The only issue I have with the above comment is that Vocaloids don’t generate music. They’re voice synthesizers and technically are just no different to an actual musical instrument. You still need outside, human help to make a Vocaloid song, but you don’t really have to do that with generated art.
@@Trecherousbeast that's the big fallacy with any digital art form
like take 3d animation for example. you can argue that because you don't have to learn how to draw to make smooth 3d animations, therefore it killed 2d animation. but that's not true because there are appeals still within 2d animation that aren't matched well within 3d, and 3d animation also takes a lot of effort to learn and perform really well
on the other hand AI unironically can do these things much FASTER and WELL. ignoring the fact that it makes plausibly great art half the time and horrendous art the other, the issue is that it is an automated process of which can create WELL nice images, and that's terrifying cuz up to this point every advancement we've made there was still learning and a lot of trial and error to fully perfect it
but AI is self improving (literally, sooner or later idk i am not well versed in that just yet) and considering how important it is in general, it is terrifyingly yet unsurprising that it will start to replicate and produce really great art at an astonishing rate
one thing i wanted to say though is, how far can AI be subjective in its creations?
again i only know about AI doing voice acting and art (like images and animations), but what about music? that's not something you can necessarily calculate really easily (ok there is music theory alongside genre conventions) and it's not necessarily something that LOGIC can necessarily recreate over and over again
even the most delicate and fine tuned genres (basically anything within classical standards) still requires immense creativity.
imo just wanted to put that out there
@@The_Jazziest_Coffee immediately I want to point out that you DO need to learn how to draw, or use 2D art to some degree to make 3D character and animation. 3D animations are still built on 2D frameworks through storyboards, animatics and even character sheets and you need to learn how to look at that and translate it to 3D. Not to mention that 3D animators still follow the 12 basic principles of animation to do their work. 3D software might be able to generate frames that go from point A to point B, but the animators themselves have to make frames A and B so that it knows where it’s going.
While A.I is quick to generate full images, I still think that what makes art interesting is the thought process behind those images, and while A.I is good at faking a thought, it will never really be able to “think”.
A.I has ALWAYS been a good helping tool, but it has NEVER and SHOULD NEVER be used to create an end product. That’s what I find weird about the “A.I art will replace real people art” mentality out there. We’ve been using A.I to help with certain processes for years, but no one who ACTUALLY uses A.I as a tool in their workplace would ever tell you that whatever an A.I generated should be used as a final product.
It’s also this weird surface level look at art too. Everyone sees that the A.I made an interesting looking product, and they instantly believe it’s better than humans because it did it faster, even though speed isn’t really an important factor to art.
A.I generated art WILL eventually look more consistent (five fingers instead of the weird sevens and eights), but that’s not really the same as consistently making good or interesting art to me. I like seeing the thought and inspiration behind art, but the only thing A.I can really do is effectively copy.
Also, there are music generators out there. Only one I know about (I don’t remember its name) would generate extra music off of anything you fed to it. Pretty much, you give it a sample of Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley and you can have it generate NEW music based off of the sample you gave it. But it’s only basing its generations on patterns that it sees. It’s not basing its generations off of any knowledge about how music theory works, and it doesn’t understand the thought process behind the song, so what you get is a generation that sounds LIKE Never Gonna Give You Up, but it doesn’t necessarily sound like a continuation of the song as it claims.
There’s a video on RUclips called “The HUGE Problem with ChatGPT” by Kyle Hill that perfectly describes why A.I is a “somewhat” effective tool, but why it also REALLY shouldn’t be taken so seriously as to REPLACE people.
I studied a bit of sentimental analysis and training AI to generate texts, voices and even music (which was my final project of the machine learning course I took), and I just wanna say: this video is amazing. I never knew that TTS dated back so long, and it's amazing to hear about all the different technologies that were involved. I will definitely share this video with my teacher. Thanks for creating such a gem, and don't worry about the time you took to post this. Have a nice one Luke, and thanks for the great content, as always!
Ai is stressing me out rn. 4 years ago I saw “this is not a real person” and thought, soon this will be graphic design and art in a few years. I really hope I’ll still be able to work as a 3D and graphic designer in another 4.
I've been feeling pretty doom and gloom about AI and Voice Acting lately, I really appreciate this video it was such a breath of fresh air.
Honestly perfectly put. No artist in their right mind would rather have an AI voice or "act" in a project rather than a real professional. Hell, even for a basic pitch, I personally fell like i'd rather do temporary voices than that.
In my opinion ai is going to shake up the "art" landscape, same way google translate did, but it will eventually settle down into a complicated balance.
You can see this in pixiv and deviant art at the moment. It STARTED as a very neat thing, seeing art that a robot was able to make. However both platforms are now starting to hate ai art with a passion. with artists getting pissed cause they can basically steal their art style without credit, and lurkers getting pissed cause their feed is getting choked by ai generated art.
Same goes for voiceacting. We like the novelty of being able to make handsome jack read the bee movie script, or making shrek read porn, but it wont replace the actual voiceactors behind them.
The only cases i personally think ai-voice acting can replace human voice acting is either with robot characters or backround characters that dont matter.
@@MrMoron-qn5rx i also like the fact on how the people who spam AI art on sides defend it
first if you say to them that AI machine is not creative and steals art they will call that program glados or Skynet
but then if you say that AI art should only be credited to the machine they immidieatly back off and say that it's just a machine and that *they* are only allowed to own the images they "made"
@@eliescobis9922 yeah, i dont really understand the "oh robots made it... but i asked for it so its mine" argument... when a artist makes your commision you dont say you made it, you say you bought it. why not the same with ai art?
@@MrMoron-qn5rxYeah, my exact thought. I hate people that call themselves AI artists. No, you're not. You're essentially claiming the chimera result of various other artists' actual work basically being stolen.
helped cool down any fears i had about the future of vo + was a great history lesson to boot. great, great stuff. never thought id see your video essay arc, but im LOVIN it 🍻
I did not expect a 30-minute Luke Correia upload but I am pleasantly surprised
Thank you for this. As someone who's just starting in voice acting work, it's really nice to see someone take a more objective look at the development and history of AI voice work, as well as a positive outlook on the future therein
You, Gianni, and Wes have inspired me to want to practice voice acting, and I dearly hope that no artist can get replaced by ai anytime soon; not painters, not digital artists, and certainly not voice actors. Having a video like this come from you was a bit of a shock, but it was very insightful and I really appreciate it; thank you
"These act as alternatives to *nothing*, not as alternatives to professionals."
Just all of this. This line hit the hardest but I'd just like to politely go off about how inspiring content like yours is, especially with this video (that youtube only just now showed me thanks). As someone who wants to be a voice actor but doesn't have a demo reel or anything but a blue snowball or who hasn't even tried recording anything yet, the real world is scary. And it's only half of mine. The other half is the internet, which is also increadibly scary. And both worlds can be cruel. Extremely cruel. Messing up could mean getting grinded to dust, so I've developed a crippling fear of failure.
So with that in mind, seeing professionals like you and Gianni spend 24/7 being meme lords for us and (hopefully) for yourselves, is extremely uplifting. I outside of youtube I have no social media presence, so you guys using all of yours to show your talent by being funny haha helps a lot. And I'm not gonna act like you guys aren't afraid cause I'm sure it's scary for you guys as well, but seeing you push past it and pulling jokes is not only comforting, it helps me get back some of my drive.
VA's have always been my favorite people ever, cause at least all the one's I've seen, you and Gianni, Matthew Mercer and the Critical Roll gang, SungWon Cho (ProZD), all of them seem like super chill guys that would just be riots to mess around with.
So the idea that any of that could be threatened for even one second really shocked my system for a little bit and styfled my drive. After watching this video, the quote at the top of this post really hit my core. Human voices aren't going to go away. At least not as long as the people behind them, the people who love them, and the people who only watch shows to hear them have anything to say about it.
All this to just say, Thanks for the video and your amazing work.
Hopefully I can join in on some of the fun one day.
Dear Luke Correia. You're doing as much as you're doing and that's far more than enough. It doesn't matter if you think that maybe you could have been doing more, don't let yourself get burnt on what-ifs or what's next. You're voice brings entertainment to so many people, even if it's just a silly 5-10 second clip of some silly nonsense, and it's enough to bring a smile to tens or hundreds of thousands of people at a time. You help fundraise for amazing charities that save the lives of countless people in need, innocent people who suffer for things they have no power over but can get by because of the kindness of strangers who want to make a difference. You help make that difference. So anytime you might think to yourself, "I need to be doing more" or "this isn't enough" please, please remember that what you do is enough to make people happy. If three weeks from now, you decide upload a 7 second clip of a chubby rat on a plate of spaghetti saying "I could never..." but then saying "but maybe?" as some garlic bread pixelates into existence, remember that that those 7 silly seconds of a rat having room for more garlic bread will have made people smile, and some of those people might donate to a good cause if you ask them to. You're a good person Luke, and that's more than enough.
Wasn’t expecting a documentary type video from you but man I’m loving it, would love to see more like it
Another thing I’ve found recently is that there are entire programs now that allow people to convincingly change their entire voice. Some bloke on Twitter did it for an NSFW video to make himself sound like a woman and no-one knew until he straight up said “it was me lol”.
It feels like something as such could snowball into something much larger and much more destructive to the industry tbh
what program did they use
@@athy8763 apparently it was just something tiktok offers on its own
Sauce to the video or is it not on this site?
@@maximilianklinger2712 it’s twitter and no I can’t find it anymore
@13. Ghani Ziyad Sagiansyah I’m sorry could you explain what you mean by that? I don’t quite understand
Nice to hear a take on this sort of AI spoop that isn't just "AI bad kill it" - seemed very even-handed to me. :)
Yeah, I got sick of people just hating on it for no reason, I guess it's just uncanny valley situation
@@AggressiveSpaghetti it's right for ai art to be hated when it's stealing and ripping off their human art and selling it
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 Stable Diffusion algorithms don’t work like that, dude. It’s no more theft then a human making a collage. The whole picture is now a new creation and has separate identity away from the original artists.
@@JamesP7 copyright infringement is a literal crime punishable by a maximum of 10 years imprisonment, a $250,000 fine, or both. Mid journey is going to be sued sooner or later
@@joVeeNoise Good thing this isn’t copyright infringement then.
And here I thought Luke was TOILING AWAY in his gamer dungeon.....
...LIKE ALWAYS!
*I'm glad that you're doing ok, posting videos or not. This one was a great watch and I really appreciate the long content!*
*Happy new year, merry holidays, and may the next year be calm and boring (unlike the previous ones)*
@fumikumi *I live in your walls.*
@@FederalBulgeInvestigator ok but I’m the biggest bird
lukesplaining gonna work overtime on this one
I want to thank you for this video. I was getting absolutely disheartened about ai copying and shadowing artists, voice actors, music producers. And yes there's still a chance things go downhill. But your explanation really helps to ease my soul in these scary times. It reminded me back in the 2000s people saying downloading mp3s would absolutely destroy music and no one would afford to make creative work again. This didn't happen.
Of course AI stuff needs to be regulated and hopefully there's people working on it. It just also hurts a bit on the existential dread of "can a machine do what I'd do? What humanity is worth now?".
Thanks!
Highly suggest you make a followup video considering every new development that's come out with AI voice technology. It's gotten a lot more serious as of late.
Also the Scooby-Doo drama
This is an incredibly well written essay. It's on my list for the best essay videos I've watched this year.
please do more of these its ironic that the voice actor would have a voice thats good to listen to for an extended period of time
A half an hour video of Luke feels like heaven to see.
aaaaaaaand then elevenlabs happened
we are doomed
elevenlabs can't simulate realistic emotions, it can just sound like people. that's it
@@user-dl5gy6lc2n It can simulate emotions, oh it does.
amazing video. the editing is simple, yet very visually pleasing, and you did a great job!
I really hope that AI voices aren't completely replaced by mimics. I prefer the robotic voices of Sam and others like it, it really gives them a unique personality that a normal human can't reproduce.
Welp. I hope there’s a followup to this video, because it’s already aging very poorly in the face of AI stealing the identity of voice actors in a very serious way…
You mean the Scooby-Doo animation?😊
While this video is about voice actors, it did help calm me a bit with my fears over AI art. It's a good reminder that the average person who doesn't want to pay for art (or can't) isn't the one holding the job offer in the first place. While it doesn't excuse the rude behavior AI art bros have when it comes to interacting with real artists (read: spitting on their hard earned skills), it's a very good reminder to hear that they aren't the ones who will pay the bills anyhow
ALSO I really enjoyed hearing your voice again Luke! You have a fantastic voice for video essays like this, but please take care of yourself. I will be here if you continue to create content and I'll still be here if you don't. I love your fun meme videos, they've brought me so much joy. Thank you for all of your hard work, man
20:15 This was the best joke of the entire video.
I miss his content.. I miss this content in general!
Now every meme is just so goofy it breaks my humor every time!
This is an extremely good ass documentary and explanation of the whole situation. Thanks for making it!
I love how Luke said fusion reactors are permanently 20 years away 4 days before we achieved nuclear fusion
Thats not a reactor
As an aspiring voice actor, I appreciate this video and it gives me hope for the future and having a possible career in voice acting!
How I see the crazy advancements with ai is that it’s like Pandora’s box
Nice to see someone is talking about this from this point of view. When talking about art and artists people always think of the ones who draw and paint, but nobody thought of the other types of art.
There's AI mimicking voices, making music out of samples (though still quite primitive, for now), and even writing full length novels.
It's scary tbh
So this is what you’ve been toiling on in your dungeon. I now demand a funny within the next week.
But in all seriousness this is an insanely entertaining and well informed dive into artificial speech that I never thought I’d find interesting. People like you and Gianni have made me and others respect and appreciate voice actors in ways we never considered. The fears behind the rise of AI in art have always seemed overstated to me before but I now really understand why many creators fear the heart and soul of their craft disappearing in Lou of something cheap and soulless. While that seems to be a problem for the far future for now, I can only hope we do our best to keep the human soul and creativity in art. It would be a tragedy for you and other passionate people like you to be lost forever in seas of corporate profits. Please keep doing what you do, your passion and love for the craft is palpable and always enjoyable.
Whoooo!!!! New luke correia video, and it’s thirty freaking minutes?!??!? Heck yeah!
I never expected you were able to make such amazing videos, and being so good at covering stuff so well and efficiently! :)
i miss you luke, we all do.
Wow, this is a really long meme, still waiting for the punchline
I loved the way you structured and presented this.
Really great job!
I didn't expect the funny meme voice acting guy to make a serious video on AI but it has made me feel a lot better about the future regarding it. The past while I've been feeling quite cynical and pessimistic about AI, especially regarding AI art, but you've given me some perspective and hope that things won't all go to sh*t. You're right, the people using these technologies were likely never going to commission an artist or hire a voice actor in the first place, and poeple who have a creative vision would not settle for AI. I'm still uncertain about our future with AI, but you've made me feel a bit more hopeful about it. Thanks you, funny internet meme voice acting dude
Luke, I have to say you've really outdone yourself here. I definitely saw you as the funny meme man like I do Gianni, but this is a fascinating video on the level of Ahoy. Good job man.
EYYY. Didn’t think I’d see anyone mention Ahoy here.
As a concerned artist, thank you greatly. A lot of the arguments I've heard around Ai replacing different kinds of artists have been almost entirely emotional. This video is far more practically minded, and brought up some good points.
I love the references of I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM, You have a pretty good taste in stories luke!
This is what the gamer dungeon toiling was about. Was really enjoy it
Very thought-provoking topic. I find AIs fascinating, although the thought of them replacing human ingenuity is terrifying. I suppose we'll see. Many concepts and ideas our ancestors deemed _ridiculous_ if not _impossible_ ended up not only becoming real, but mainstream.
Much as I'd like to believe in the sweet fantasy of "artificial life can't ever fully replace/take over humanity, humans are special and stuff", it'd be extremely naive of me to pretend what personally comforts me cannot be misinformed or misleading.
Merry Christmas btw. At least pure H2O will always be what it is, refreshing and awesome, which I'm drinking rn. Stay hydrated you guys. 👍
AI can only replace people if they become people. Art is the emergent result of consciousness, which is the emergent result of biomechanics. In order to compete with artists AI must first become capable of being artists.
And if any AI achieves a level of consciousness indistinguishable from that of a human - or even a raven or an elephant or a dolphin - the correct terms to refer to that AI are "person" and "artist".
@@FelisImpurrator Last part is iffy. You wouldn't refer to a dolphin or raven as a "person." But I get what you're saying.
My point was, I can't be certain of future advancements and how advanced AI will become, say, 200 years from now. I will obviously be long dead by then probably, but it's still fun to think about. People in the 20th century had lots of fun fantasizing about the 21st too.
It's crazy reading _futuristic_ sci-fi from the 50s and seeing what people thought the future would probably look like lol.
@@howdypartner8326 Of course I would. Because the science is very clear that they have sufficient intelligence to be considered people. What more could possibly matter in that context?
Just as an example. The average raven is at least as smart and communicative as a human child. They have theory of mind, which means they can process the idea of other animals existing and having different motives from them. They can use tools, communicate in sophisticated ways, learn the face and gait of a human (which is impressive considering how shit humans are at telling apart nonhumans) and pass that knowledge across generations... What part of that is insufficient to be considered a person?
@@FelisImpurrator That's fascinating. I remember hearing of crows being remarkably intelligent for animals, but them (along with dolphins and whales apparently) actually being sapient is mind-blowing news to me.
Now that I think about it, my dog is _technically_ a person. She may not have the freedom that I do, as she isn't an independent citizen, but she's registered legally under me, has a name and is clearly capable of retaining information, thinking, passing it on and being self-aware.
I suppose yes, you're right, they are people in a way. More like uneducated, primitive people (like certain tribes that still exist) but still people. It's obvious their perception and experience would be different from ours due to our different biology, but if being sapient alone is sufficient for something (or someone in this case) to become a person, then you'd be right.
Unfortunately I'm no expert in this field, but I'm aware that sapience is probably the biggest part of what makes us "people." I believe Chimpanzees were still the closest to humans in intelligence, however, and the numerous attempts to integrate them into human society (especially after adulthood) have produced numerous catastrophic failures.
Then again, I suppose being _human_ isn't a necessity to be a person. Otherwise any race that lives differently than humans despite being equals if not surpassing humans in intelligence and perception would also not be people. Humans that fail their humanity by acting uncivilized and animalistic would also not be considered people.
That last part actually doesn't sound that bad in all honesty.
TL;DR: Apologies for the text wall. In summary, you're right. I suppose they could be considered people, and what I was thinking of was more along the lines of being considered human, rather than being considered a person.
we're running out of water btw
25:51 Even though cars have replaced horses as daily transportation, horses and equestrianism have not disappeared from society. They're just relegated to competitive, ceremonial, and recreational uses. The same could be said about steam trains, antique cars, typewriters, early computers, or any other form of "outdated" technology: there will always be people who continue using older tech simply because they like to.
Or because they can't, the entire third world including South Asia (my ancestral home) and Africa.
A lot of these countries have way too much on their hands, whether it be wars or dumb ideologies and weak currencies and science sectors make it difficult to advance that far
@@PasscodeAdvance Very true. I have Caribbean ancestry, and they still drive oxcarts on some islands. (In my original comment, I was specifically focusing on Europe and North America, but I know the rest of the world isn't always the same.)
This video was excellently put together, props to you man! ❤
The joke is that this entire video was voiced by an AI, and Luke himself died long ago.
This was a great video! One thing I’ve been worried about with AI is the people who want to just do something small. Quick D&D character art, a quick inside joke, it doesn’t matter what it is. The point you made about AI art often being an alternative to nothing really hit home. Sorry if this is incoherent, just wanted to express my appreciation for a well-researched video that took a reasonable stance on AI art as a whole.
"Quick inside joke" it's ok, you can just say meme.
Luke please come back I miss your posts😢
Got recommended this after watching a bunch of Dagoth Ur ai voice acted videos, idk its pretty convincing to me
"... while they tend to vary pretty wildly between genres..."
*COMDEY / COMEDY / HORROR / HORROR*
come on you had to have laughed at that at least once in the editing process
I'm really glad this got recommended to me after your upload break! It's nice to see a video essay from a channel I thought just did memes. I value your perspective as a voice actor -- great job!
Holy sht I didn't expect this type of video from Luke... Still, this is awesome...
Da-aaaamn, it's so good to watch an actual lenghty video done by you. You are more than a meme for us, Luke, you're also an interesting person.
With singing synthesizers, like vocaloid, you can manually tune the tone of the voice to be realistic, unlike typical text to speech (a technique called talkloid) but it takes a lot of practice to make natural sounding talking speech.
you're not trying to make realistic speech with a vocaloid though? vocal synths in music production are chosen over human singers normally as a deliberate design choice, because they are *different*. the vocals are clearly not human, and the "artist" is an established celebrity of sorts that producers can utilise the fame of to their advantage
@user-dl5gy6lc2n you are so wrong lol, you clearly haven't looked at much of the vocal synth community. Some people prefer robotic synths like utau but more companies that are more relevant than vocaloid now are deliberatley made to be realistic as possible with AI like Cevio and SynthV. Some animators like to use vocal synths for voice acting because it's fun and we like the novelty of making a character sing.
@@scatmanjohnfan22 yes the end point of vocaloid is that it's a novelty. it's not mimicking any existing person and it isn't trying to be human. I'm pretty sure we fully agree on the matter and it's just an error of phrasing so sorry if that's the case
@user-dl5gy6lc2n ah i see. Sorry, yeah i agree that at the end of the day vocal synthesizers are mostly about the novelty of making a character sing
Love this. I noticed this being a topic of discussion a couple months back, but the visual art debacle drowned it out. Glad to get some actual info on it.
Thanks for putting this out. Its really thoughtful and well put together. AI art can still freak me out a little bit but at least AI VA won't for a while.
Your normal voice is actually very relaxing
Having seen a few creators burn out on the regular upload schedule problem, seeing you go for less frequent, longer form content, if that's a plan to stick with it in the future, I'm all for it ♥️
Meme man makes my outlook on my voice acting sad. Good video meme man
Automation is kinda scary, but unlike with self-driving cars where the best driver for insurance companies is "one who never gets in an accident and pays their small insurance fees" (from CGP Grey's "Humans Need Not Apply", a great video) voice actors have an ease of access and humanity that is eye-opening. They are currently easier to instruct and as long as that always remains so, you all will have a job. I also suspect that'll be the case for a long while, because AIs just aren't there yet to grasp the way people want something said.
I wanted to wait a little while till I found a good time to watch this with my full attention, so sorry for being late to the party. Your essays are still as great as ever. And remember: those of us who are here aren't "sticking with it". We're here "sticking with you". We're may be here for your content but we're also here for you.
holy shit luke, this is one of the best videos i have ever watched
he gone
When the world needed him most, he disappeared, leaving only his final message.
this is reassuring. i just hope this applies to images and music.
Don’t ask him where he’s been.
He’s been toiling away in his gamer dungeon.
Like always...
I wish we could just have an update because we haven't gotten any news since Luke disappeared to the next dimension.
Excellent video mate, I'd love to see bigger vids like this along side the shorts
things have gotten so much worse so fast oh my god
First off, thanks for the Vid! Good stuffa
Secondly, I can see it AI voices being utilized in voice acting in three ways: quick and dirty ADR work (need Jon Johnson to scream onions for a scene, but he's already on another project?), small bit lines where a background character is saying hello or something, and most importantly, for games with super advanced dialog trees.
Before voice acting in video games became the mainstay that it is, certain western RPGs and adventure games could have these seemingly massive (for the time) conversation trees, where you could go so far as to to ask about something you learned in the game, barter with npcs, etc. Once voice acting became more and more important in triple A gaming, conversations had to become more streamlined. Gone are the days of selecting a noun to talk about, now all you can talk about is reduced to four or less options. And God forbid you have a part voiced, part text game! The humanity!
This is what AI voices would finally usher in, a return to simply typing out "ask about onions" and having a voice respond, or perhaps even better, saying it outloud into your headset. The player gets a super advanced game and the actor doesn't have to spend 40 hours n a recording booth talking about the different types of onions
Luke: Why would independents bother with AI when they can direct people?
Stanley Kubrick: At last, I met my one true equal!
Wow this video was great! I loves the way you explained everything. I hadn’t even realized 30 minutes had passed before it was done!
This is a really wonderful video, amazing editing and a good voice. It's great to see how you pick at all the different views on the topic. Hope you continue making these videos, they're really special.
this video is extremely well done. i normally cant sit through videos like this, but i had no problem with this video. its not just the topic, its the talent and time spent into this video. 10/10
babe wakeup the funny meme man is making longform content
This vid's amazing. Really awesome to see you branch out in your content.
It's funny that now eleven labs had released their AI voice generator, which is hilariously closer to the human voice.
So, maybe just a year before it gets completely indistinguishable? Idk
This was a well put together video. It covered almost every point on the subject, and gave a spectacular answer to the question. Well done funny voice man
A lot of the worries with vocaloid early on was that it would replace the celebrities whom it was sourced from
On an unrelated side note there is a mashup of that original ibm singing “Daisy, Daisy” along with Hatsune Miku and it’s adorable.
Great video Mr. Correia, well worth the wait!
Your meme content is great and all, but this was absolutely amazing! I’d love to see more of this style of content in the future, you do it well!
Was thinking about this a few days ago while downloading skyrim mods that use xVASynth and how people felt about text to speech and AI voicing. The quality of line delivery is kinda spotty but I think its way better then the no voice acting at all days. Still doesn't beat good ol' line splicing. Watching this video also reminded me of the text to speech mod for Stardew Valley (Pelican TTS). It really did add something to my playthrough experience. Anyways, Great Video.
I’d love more videos like this. But also the other ones you do are great