Margery is not the brain it’s Olena Tyrell, she is behind Joffrey’s purple wedding necklace ploy. Her and Littlefinger played the game well. Can’t wait for Winds from the far North but it’s been a decade and a half almost. And G🐢🐢M isn’t in a hurry.
And here we have Cersei, not Daenerys, compared directly to Aerys in the joy of watching things burn. I have no doubt in my mind she’ll attempt to ‘burn them all’ rather than let Aegon have Kings Landing
I think Danaerys will fire a warning shot only meant for the castle, but the wildfire she doesn't know about will set off a chain reaction that'll burn the city and send her mad with grief and guilt.
So did Tywin's dying but some serious edge on Kevan, cause WOW he is more ruthless than a Thanksgiving dinner on his niece and nephew, like damn! I see why Varys did what he did
Kevan is my favourite Lannister! Just as sharp as the others,but a genuinely decent person. It's touching to see how much he loved his brother,even though it was tywin.
Well, since he knows about their little 'secret', Kevan probably assumes Jaime is with Cersei in everything... note how he immediately interprets Jaime's suggestion as a possible threat.
Thanks! And I really really like all of MustaMirri’s ASoIaF stuff, which is why I frequently use their art for chapter images! Some artists,, you look at their ASoIaF stuff and you just think, “nailed it. That’s what Jaime looks like. Without a doubt,” and MustaMirti is definitely one. You can find a link to their other work in the video description!
It's official: I'm addicted to David's audiobooks! I've listened to every single chapter at least 10 times, and I still can't get enough❤️ I used to think there was nothing better than READING ASOIAF, but then David's performances gave completely new dimensions to it, and now, to my mind, there's no ASOIAF without Ser David.
Fully agreed, I almost dread the day Winds of Winter might ever be released because then I will not be able to immediately listen to the whole book being narrated by our good and talented David, but must wait and hope that he will slay another Goliath by GRRM.
Anyone else notice Viserys always told Dany they were whist away in the middle of the night to dragon stone but Jamie clearly tell the events with them leaving in the morning in her royal wheelhouse . This just shows me another example that all Danys accounts from her brother are either false or outright lies plus her early memories are definitely off and confused. I think this is why she thinks the red door was in Bravos between her brothers lies and her memory being off she may believe the house with the red door was in Bravos but who knows for certain she definitely doesn't.
Now that Jamie is being forced to use his brain a little bit and stretching the old muscles, the brain muscles, he’s actually kind of clever, I can’t believe he guessed Tyrion right away
I see how knowledge of history is becoming important in the book leading to the queenmaker chapter, though hearing about cole from these books and watching the house of dragon show is quite confusing, I know that martin retconned a couple of things in his fire book, but the show has went a step even further
The period of time known as the dance of dragons is talked about in ASOIAF, world of ice and fire, fire and blood, and the TV show House of the Dragon. In each one, many details and some major plot points are different. Drawing knowledge of one of these sources from another is a task that will only confuse
That's an interesting take on Loras' accent. I didn't realize he was a southern belle. Which part of Westeros speaks American English with Georgia accent?
The Dornish Master Plan: fart around the sand dunes for a little while, read the dumbest dialogue in the history of fiction from a dungeon cell, poison princess, die. Brilliant. My only criticism is that maybe the books should have been adapted by showrunners who knew how to read, but hindsight’s 20/20
That “kingmaker” guy crowned his king’s son instead of the daughter that the king had wanted to become the next ruler on his death bed Because of this action, it created a civil war and caused much death and destruction (I’m pretty sure this was House of the dragon stuff) There’s a later chapter called “The Queenmaker” and I’m pretty sure it was meant to parallel this as well
In ASoIaT? I haven’t thought about who my favorite character overall is but my favorite POV is Cersei. Followed closely by Theon, and then Sansa Jaime and Brienne. I found the Cersei POV chapters really eye opening when I first read them years ago because I hadn’t really encountered evil fictional characters depicted the way Cersei is in Feast. Today I might compare her to some of the characters in The Sopranos (particularly Livia!), a show treat accomplishes a similar fear of having you empathize with evil people in their pain and vulnerability, without feeling the need to justify that empathy with mush-mouth moral equivalence or cynicism. It also, I think, is one of the best POVs at really immersing the reader in how a character thinks. The resentful paranoia and rage is just everywhere and lends the chapters an oppressive feeling that you end up sharing with Cersei. AND this is one of the POVs where George starts leaning quite heavily into the horror genre stuff in a new way, which I always appreciate. That’s part of the reason why Theon is my second favorite POV: the incredibly gothic, frightening way the North appears through his Dance POVs.
@@DavidReadsASoIaF Brienne for me because she was a female fighting representative character who was not forced in. George was ahead of his time when he came up with her. All her life it seems she fights. Sometimes she has to fight to be able to fight. She sets out to make good on her promise to Jaime and Catelyn to find Sansa. I can't help but just feel really bad for whats about to happen to her. She's about to almost get hanged when she's among the few who remained loyal to Catelyn after that she is set to kill Jaime. I just pity her and I rarely pity people.
IDK where people are reading that Jaime is becoming a better man... "strife between Lannister and Lannister can only help the enemies of our house"?? but Jaime, was it not YOU who freed Tyrion with Varys then lied about it to Cersei, stoking her paranoia and now letting her thrash about???? He can think what she is doing is wrong and he may not be aiding her, but he sure as hell is abetting her by forcing her to play with an incomplete deck Literally Jaime CREATED the opportunity for Varys, who is clearly Taena's benefactor, to manipulate Cersei and lock her into Tyrion and Tyrell suspicion (who are in fact two of the culprits)... as shown later in this chapter with the gold hands from Highgarden and the coin in Rugen's cell its rather astounding how many factors are working against Cersei here and playing into her worst flaws, the queen raised as Tywin's pawn, who now can only play like a pawn Cersei will recall that Varys played her as "no truer friend at court" but she will fall for the same song and dance with Taena, in part because Jaime refuses to own his role in his own father's murder anything to shunt blame off himself and onto anyone else, particularly Cersei... definite Goldenhand the Just material right there, not a massive hypocrite at all 😂 even over Tywin's dead body, he didnt admit anything
i dont think jaime was even thinking of cersei and tywin when he freed tyrion tho bc that interaction was not about them. jaime freeing tyrion was between them only and the truth about that tysha that burdened them both. jaime couldn’t account for cersei’s paranoia when he has no idea about the prophecy that haunts her and he certainly isnt going to fuel it even worse by telling her the truth. why is it jaime’s fault and his responsibility to control cersei’s absurd and prejudicial aversion to her own brother because hes a dwarf.
@@aishah7730oh no no i am not saying its his responsibility to control Cersei, i said "own his role" Its the spiral of self-destruction, as you point out with the prophesy BOTH Lannister twins withhold whatever pleases them but demand all from each other Lannister implosion is fuelled by every Lannister, even including Jaime and Kevan, who think and treat one another, especially Cersei (who GRRM has intentionally shown as a universal scapegoat), with increasing malice
Bron is such a beast for naming his son that. Weird you won't fight the mountain but you'll anger cersei?? Idk which has better odds. Or a less horrific death.
Jaime's accepting reality pretty well, past Jaime would have shat on Kevan, but now he has learned to bite his tongue... many other men would still be as cocky as before but Jaime has accepted that he no longer has sword skills he once had, he can't back his quips and mockery anymore, better to find ways with diplomacy... So, basically, Cersei is paranoid petty tyrant... she's filling council with "yes-men" who never question her (like Qyburn), and yet is blind to their manipulation, they just give her half good council and never question her and she trusts them for that... she lacks wisdom and I have a bad feeling on what all of her bad decisions will cause... (maybe Highgarden betrayal?) yet she's making enemies from people who actually are her allies (Kevan, Jaime)... Kingmaker... So someone who has bad nickname is still remembered (King's guard should protect king, yet that name suggests betrayal), I guess Jaime derives hope from that, despite being called Kingslayer he could still be remembered...
ASOIAF makes me mistrust all rulers. They make laws and codes to protect themselves and harm those their meant to lead. Jaime was right to end the mad king Aerys. Even honorable men like Robert and Stannis are corrupted by the throne. Robert gave in to drinking and whoring, while Stannis was driven to witchcraft to murder his brother. Hopefully Queen Daenerys learns from Mereen and becomes an effective leader who gives power to the people of Westeros.
Cercei is a poison, the more Time Jaime is away from her the more Jaime heals, finds his honor and reverts To his Goldenhand persona.
Yeah
"Margery is not half as clever as she thinks"
The only problem is that Cersei is not a quarter as clever as she thinks 😅
Cersei:" You think I am stupid" Tyrion:"I think you posess average inreligence"😆😆👍
Margery is not the brain it’s Olena Tyrell, she is behind Joffrey’s purple wedding necklace ploy. Her and Littlefinger played the game well. Can’t wait for Winds from the far North but it’s been a decade and a half almost. And G🐢🐢M isn’t in a hurry.
Kevans saltiness doesn’t get enough credit.
So far, he seems like he's got a stick up his arse to me. Maybe something changes, but at least he's used that stick for a spine...so far.
And here we have Cersei, not Daenerys, compared directly to Aerys in the joy of watching things burn. I have no doubt in my mind she’ll attempt to ‘burn them all’ rather than let Aegon have Kings Landing
The spoilers, plz
I think Danaerys will fire a warning shot only meant for the castle, but the wildfire she doesn't know about will set off a chain reaction that'll burn the city and send her mad with grief and guilt.
Another reason GRRM writers block is real. If Aegon is real then here we go with another Targ civil war.
"Tywin was a lion, yes, but he knew he wasn't a god"
Five minutes later
"Why does Cersei need the Warrior? She has me."
lol
That’s our Jaime! 🙃
Pretty sure he was posturing with the latter statement, and being truthful with the former.
I like how they keep bringing up Sir Criston Cole.
He is one of the best examples of a disonorable kingsguard who soiled his white cloak
This is the only time they bring him up
@@Monk_Chud He was mentioned three chapters before this one.
Bron naming his step son Tyrion warmed my heart. It shows that he rlly did care for tyrion
Lol, does it? He just did it to piss Cersei off.
Man put a target on his step child for a laugh lol
@@aerystargaryenii2565 worth it
@@aerystargaryenii2565I don't think Bronn would care too much for bastard born of a gang rape.
@@aerystargaryenii2565 He´s the one who suggested the whole Symon thing to Tyrion. He's a psycho.
Yes, we've been blessed with two chapters today.
Brooooo
You did it😂 good shit
So did Tywin's dying but some serious edge on Kevan, cause WOW he is more ruthless than a Thanksgiving dinner on his niece and nephew, like damn!
I see why Varys did what he did
Kevan is my favourite Lannister! Just as sharp as the others,but a genuinely decent person. It's touching to see how much he loved his brother,even though it was tywin.
Well, since he knows about their little 'secret', Kevan probably assumes Jaime is with Cersei in everything... note how he immediately interprets Jaime's suggestion as a possible threat.
Please don’t stop doing these, you’re a great narrator
Once Tyrion told Jamie that cersi has been sleeping with kettlatback and lancel he began to slowly see her for who she truely was
That picture of Jaime is just perfect.
Great work again 👏
Thanks! And I really really like all of MustaMirri’s ASoIaF stuff, which is why I frequently use their art for chapter images! Some artists,, you look at their ASoIaF stuff and you just think, “nailed it. That’s what Jaime looks like. Without a doubt,” and MustaMirti is definitely one. You can find a link to their other work in the video description!
Mathia Arkoniel's Jaime Lannister is the best of all.
It's official: I'm addicted to David's audiobooks! I've listened to every single chapter at least 10 times, and I still can't get enough❤️
I used to think there was nothing better than READING ASOIAF, but then David's performances gave completely new dimensions to it, and now, to my mind, there's no ASOIAF without Ser David.
Fully agreed, I almost dread the day Winds of Winter might ever be released because then I will not be able to immediately listen to the whole book being narrated by our good and talented David, but must wait and hope that he will slay another Goliath by GRRM.
Anyone else notice Viserys always told Dany they were whist away in the middle of the night to dragon stone but Jamie clearly tell the events with them leaving in the morning in her royal wheelhouse . This just shows me another example that all Danys accounts from her brother are either false or outright lies plus her early memories are definitely off and confused. I think this is why she thinks the red door was in Bravos between her brothers lies and her memory being off she may believe the house with the red door was in Bravos but who knows for certain she definitely doesn't.
I'm convinced red door was somewhere completely different or Dany is some kind of otherworldly being
Cersi so mad that she wants to kill a new born child just because he’s named Tyrion
Now that Jamie is being forced to use his brain a little bit and stretching the old muscles, the brain muscles, he’s actually kind of clever, I can’t believe he
guessed Tyrion right away
It would be cool to hear you do like theories and other stuff too👀👀
everyone is always so mean to jaime
"Father's death has unmanned him." Yeah well that's called grief Cersei & his death didn't make a man out of you
Seven saves all,you do. I love these lines.
I see how knowledge of history is becoming important in the book leading to the queenmaker chapter, though hearing about cole from these books and watching the house of dragon show is quite confusing, I know that martin retconned a couple of things in his fire book, but the show has went a step even further
The period of time known as the dance of dragons is talked about in ASOIAF, world of ice and fire, fire and blood, and the TV show House of the Dragon. In each one, many details and some major plot points are different. Drawing knowledge of one of these sources from another is a task that will only confuse
@@BigDaddy_Geoff agree, and martin lives to make his history as vague and contradictory as possible as real history might sometimes be
I love this chapter. I think it's where cersi makes the first assumptions about Tana that are gonna lead or play a part in her (Cersi) downfall.
It feels like Tywin has been rotting for over a month in KL.
@@fazediamond5671 You can tell George loves his villains, I doubt he will ever write a better ending for one than Tywin's.
That's an interesting take on Loras' accent. I didn't realize he was a southern belle. Which part of Westeros speaks American English with Georgia accent?
Well highgarden is in the “Deep South” of Westeros and loras is the son of a rich landowner
@@bensonfang1868 And Serfs ain’t that different from slaves
Thank you so much for this ❤!
Whats the chapter where Jaime and Bronn go to dorne, not sun spear to battle with the sand snakes?
😂😂😂😜😜😜🤣🤣
Doesn't happen in the books mate, very funny in the show.
In the books, Ser Ilyn is Jaime’s Bronn and, correct, that doesn’t happen in the books
The Dornish Master Plan: fart around the sand dunes for a little while, read the dumbest dialogue in the history of fiction from a dungeon cell, poison princess, die. Brilliant. My only criticism is that maybe the books should have been adapted by showrunners who knew how to read, but hindsight’s 20/20
What a great chapter!!!!
What was Jaime implying at the end when telling Loras about the former kingsguard
That “kingmaker” guy crowned his king’s son instead of the daughter that the king had wanted to become the next ruler on his death bed
Because of this action, it created a civil war and caused much death and destruction (I’m pretty sure this was House of the dragon stuff)
There’s a later chapter called “The Queenmaker” and I’m pretty sure it was meant to parallel this as well
David, if you have the time, can you explain to me who is your favorite character of all time? If there is a tie you can explain them too.
In ASoIaT? I haven’t thought about who my favorite character overall is but my favorite POV is Cersei. Followed closely by Theon, and then Sansa Jaime and Brienne.
I found the Cersei POV chapters really eye opening when I first read them years ago because I hadn’t really encountered evil fictional characters depicted the way Cersei is in Feast. Today I might compare her to some of the characters in The Sopranos (particularly Livia!), a show treat accomplishes a similar fear of having you empathize with evil people in their pain and vulnerability, without feeling the need to justify that empathy with mush-mouth moral equivalence or cynicism. It also, I think, is one of the best POVs at really immersing the reader in how a character thinks. The resentful paranoia and rage is just everywhere and lends the chapters an oppressive feeling that you end up sharing with Cersei. AND this is one of the POVs where George starts leaning quite heavily into the horror genre stuff in a new way, which I always appreciate. That’s part of the reason why Theon is my second favorite POV: the incredibly gothic, frightening way the North appears through his Dance POVs.
@@DavidReadsASoIaF Brienne for me because she was a female fighting representative character who was not forced in. George was ahead of his time when he came up with her. All her life it seems she fights. Sometimes she has to fight to be able to fight. She sets out to make good on her promise to Jaime and Catelyn to find Sansa. I can't help but just feel really bad for whats about to happen to her. She's about to almost get hanged when she's among the few who remained loyal to Catelyn after that she is set to kill Jaime. I just pity her and I rarely pity people.
@@EnderWarden It's such a classic GRRM move that Brienne embodies all the traits of a "true knight," more than any "Ser" we ever meet.
Great audiobook !!
Thank you!
IDK where people are reading that Jaime is becoming a better man...
"strife between Lannister and Lannister can only help the enemies of our house"??
but Jaime, was it not YOU who freed Tyrion with Varys then lied about it to Cersei, stoking her paranoia and now letting her thrash about????
He can think what she is doing is wrong and he may not be aiding her, but he sure as hell is abetting her by forcing her to play with an incomplete deck
Literally Jaime CREATED the opportunity for Varys, who is clearly Taena's benefactor, to manipulate Cersei and lock her into Tyrion and Tyrell suspicion (who are in fact two of the culprits)... as shown later in this chapter with the gold hands from Highgarden and the coin in Rugen's cell
its rather astounding how many factors are working against Cersei here and playing into her worst flaws, the queen raised as Tywin's pawn, who now can only play like a pawn
Cersei will recall that Varys played her as "no truer friend at court" but she will fall for the same song and dance with Taena, in part because Jaime refuses to own his role in his own father's murder
anything to shunt blame off himself and onto anyone else, particularly Cersei... definite Goldenhand the Just material right there, not a massive hypocrite at all 😂 even over Tywin's dead body, he didnt admit anything
i dont think jaime was even thinking of cersei and tywin when he freed tyrion tho bc that interaction was not about them. jaime freeing tyrion was between them only and the truth about that tysha that burdened them both. jaime couldn’t account for cersei’s paranoia when he has no idea about the prophecy that haunts her and he certainly isnt going to fuel it even worse by telling her the truth. why is it jaime’s fault and his responsibility to control cersei’s absurd and prejudicial aversion to her own brother because hes a dwarf.
@@aishah7730oh no no i am not saying its his responsibility to control Cersei, i said "own his role"
Its the spiral of self-destruction, as you point out with the prophesy BOTH Lannister twins withhold whatever pleases them but demand all from each other
Lannister implosion is fuelled by every Lannister, even including Jaime and Kevan, who think and treat one another, especially Cersei (who GRRM has intentionally shown as a universal scapegoat), with increasing malice
@@我主也how should he “own his role”? What do you mean by that?
Your voice sounds so much like Seth MacFarlane's that I can't help picturing Brian the dog from Family Guy narrating this book.
I truly don;t know what to make of this comment. Possibly a tentative ".........thanks?" possible a strident "how dare you!"
Bron is such a beast for naming his son that. Weird you won't fight the mountain but you'll anger cersei?? Idk which has better odds. Or a less horrific death.
100 more chapters!
LMFAO CERSEI MAKING MARGERY SOUND LIKE THE QUEEN OF THORNS. You are so talented homie
The Criston Cole reference in the end, nahh crazy
Holy shit what a blessing! Thank the 7!
Bronn is very funny for that
why are the tyrels from texas?
Cristin Cole reference 😮❤❤
7:05 I SCREAMED hahaha
That line had me dying kevans a menace
The mad king had 9 inch nails, and loved head-banging, he’s just George in the 90’s
Jaime's accepting reality pretty well, past Jaime would have shat on Kevan, but now he has learned to bite his tongue... many other men would still be as cocky as before but Jaime has accepted that he no longer has sword skills he once had, he can't back his quips and mockery anymore, better to find ways with diplomacy...
So, basically, Cersei is paranoid petty tyrant... she's filling council with "yes-men" who never question her (like Qyburn), and yet is blind to their manipulation, they just give her half good council and never question her and she trusts them for that... she lacks wisdom and I have a bad feeling on what all of her bad decisions will cause... (maybe Highgarden betrayal?) yet she's making enemies from people who actually are her allies (Kevan, Jaime)...
Kingmaker... So someone who has bad nickname is still remembered (King's guard should protect king, yet that name suggests betrayal), I guess Jaime derives hope from that, despite being called Kingslayer he could still be remembered...
ASOIAF makes me mistrust all rulers. They make laws and codes to protect themselves and harm those their meant to lead. Jaime was right to end the mad king Aerys.
Even honorable men like Robert and Stannis are corrupted by the throne. Robert gave in to drinking and whoring, while Stannis was driven to witchcraft to murder his brother.
Hopefully Queen Daenerys learns from Mereen and becomes an effective leader who gives power to the people of Westeros.
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