That analogy works with fish, but not with people. The difference is a fish can’t tell you what it wants, and also wouldn’t tell you because it wouldn’t want to get fished and killed. Dating isn’t like a hunt, so this analogy seems logical but isn’t the greatest. Sure, you can get dating advice from other guys, but also considering dating advice from women is very beneficial. I’ve seen lots of guys who say that even if a girl says “no” to still try to pursue a relationship. But every woman I know, including myself hates when a guy doesn’t leave us alone if we tell them we are not interested. That’s an example when taking advice from a woman is better. However that doesn’t mean men don’t give good advice! You just need to be careful about whose advice you take and take everything with a grain of salt. I would say the people that have some of the greatest dating/love advice are the people who have been married for years/decades. (But that’s my opinion) I just personally really dislike the fish analogy because it kind of dismisses what woman want/like in relationships. But the most important part is that everyone is different. So if one guy gives dating advice it might not work for you and might not attract the girl your trying to attract. Same goes with advice from girls. I might give advice based on my preferences, but the girl your trying to attract could have completely different preferences.
@@lelouchvibritannia4235 OMG thank you for saying this. I'm horrified by the comments section. They actually think that manipulating women's emotions is a flex. It isn't. Its not cool to women. We don't feel good to know that there are guys who want to control what we feel or how we react. Ross used a very famous manipulation tactic that works on all people regardless of their gender. And there are so many men acting like they all know what women are supposed to feel like making us feel like we are supposed to some objects or machines that are supposed to be controlled by them. Is that supposed to make us feel good? Or even safe? Are we like supposed to be okay with men trying to use us for whatever they need without being even reassured of our own safety? How about we all COMMUNICATE and accept the fact that all women don't have the same type? And instead just go for women who are actually into them from the starting.
Bruh, I hate to break it to you. But unfortunately, we, the women, don't resemble the fishes in the slightest manner. We are not fishes. The analogy is just too much of a cringe.
He got all the applause when he said anything. The other two guys didn't give him much of a chance to talk because controversy makes for better television. People don't like to see things they agree with. Just look at the daily news cycle. Fox intentionally cooks up stories designed to offend Trumpists, while CNN or NBC writes up stories that will be concerning to left-wingers. Just because the audience responds it doesn't mean they agree or like what is being said.
american society was much more libertine and free in speech in the 80s for a mainstream popular tv to allow that today this is unspeakable or unthinkable to allow jeffries or any other to tak about thisss decay of democracy and individual freedsoms
The audience proved Ross's point every step of the way. He produced the most emotion and response from them. While you could see the glazed eyes and disinterest whenever the male feminist spoke without a soundbite included like he's running for office.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction course mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions I got phone numbers and soon I will get dates as well
Trying to make a point by wearing a dress does the opposite but the only one who made any sense was Mel Feig, this pedestalizing of sex has made men so pathetic in the west and caused its downfall. When men do not focus on being strong same as with Rome or Samson in the Bible,.they go to their doom along with the women and children in their society. Mel should not have demeaned, dehumanized and degraded himself/all men by wearing a dress.
was just a show with humurous and enterntainment purposes while also indirectly promoting RJ and the other two dudes I used some of SS (speed seduction) in real life but the results vary a lot depending on whom you encounter in streets or other public places and how vivid or life experienced the woman is
I watched this video 5 times, and it is still interesting how Ross was right about women in the era that there was no flow of information like today, and he was absolutely right👏
@@highgatehandyman64796479 Actually, if you go further back, you will see that it is the African Americans who had to face feminism first. Listen to some of the rap songs from the 80's and you will assess it for yourself. Cheers.
I love how Ross' point is being made. He doesn't care what women say they want, or think they want. He's interested in what they respond to, and it clearly shows, these women are responding, to that statement. They don't even know what they're walking into.
Ostensibly, I agree that they were testing him - and their attention was most definitely zeroed in on him. I would imagine that none of them felt turned on per say, but it probably had more to do with the alpha-chick on the mic openly ridiculing him than anything about Ross, or what he said.
The third guy was completely invisible on this discussion and the point was completely proven. It's ridiculous that they still couldn't see the point the two were trying to make.
Bruce was the perfect advocatus diaboli. I'd bet he found the RP after his dieworse and said to himself: i should have listened to the two guys at that NBC show years ago.
what do you think that means? youtube's full of interviews of people like dahmer, manson and richard kuklinkski, and they get millions of views. do you think that means people want to befriend them, sleep with them, or something? i want to know why when this guy's focused on by the crowd it means one thing, but when a mob hitman is so talked about in American culture that he's practically a celebrity, you (and this goes for anyone who backs this jeffres guy since i doubt the op still visits this video) draw a different meaning. his ideas, and they're not really his ideas, just ideas he used, but the idea of neuro-linguistic programming is nothing more than a pseudoscience. in fact, he really reminds me of a lot of other crackpots of the era. People like Frank Dux, George Dillon. They'd go around on TV, make ridiculous claims, use pseudoscience for their claims, dupe a few chumps into forking over some money.
The black lady that said "Without your mothers you wouldn't be here." There you go, classic shaming tactic from women, especially black women. Kevin Samuels, RIP, mentioned this many times.
The same crowd of women would have been applauding to everything Ross said if he was a woman, and she would be considerate an indipendent, self-fulfilled, sexually empowered woman
Nowadays? Nah. Plus women used the promiscuity thing because they thought it would "empower" them. I don't think normal women think that being promiscuous is a good thing in 2024.
Ross did great. Dude literally explained to the women how he gets them to react and they did exactly that. Shout out to the MRA though, that portion where he was talking about women ridiculing men for how they feel and then the host making him stand up cause of his Outfit was the best moment of the show. They really exposed female nature here.
@@cosmos7427 He was explaining to the audience of women that the things they SAY they want are not nearly as important as to what they react to. From his experience, getting a woman’s reaction has garnered him more success with them. He then proves this by simply saying that same thing differently throughout the show and eliciting greater reactions from the women . Meanwhile the guy talking about female empowerment was so unimportant he could’ve just not been there and the women wouldn’t have noticed.
@@cosmos7427 Ross said: when it comes to women do what works, not what they say works. Judge them by their actions not words"...you can tell Ross was very secure in himself and they had the most interest in him than in the male feminist
Jesus, dude. The reason women don't like you is this BS attitude of yours. It's not their fault you're a crappy man. Fix yourself instead of blaming an entire gender.
The best part of this was when all of the women in the audience reacted *exactly* the way both the MRA and PUA predicted, just moments before the reaction manifested.
@@DeathFromAboveGames Women are smitten by courage and those willing to speak the discomfiting truth. They know how they are and they can barely stand each other. Most of the women in the audience were well past their expiry date too.
society(a few dominant elite familes) want to wage war on men since only men can truly fight technocratic totalitarianism women by their verry nature is to submit to authority see the plandemic of 2020 how sheep got vaxxed with that poison in their bodies
@@opreadumitru1 The choice is up to the man of course. Porn keeps men from a far more dangerous option....relationships with real women or worse, marriage.
They all say they hate Ross, but he's the one who got them excited and engaged, because he's a wild card which intrigues them. They're desperately trying to shame him and tame him, bcuz women are intrinsically programmed to tame and control men, either through charming them or shaming them, but when they fail at both that's when they fall hard for the guy. Unlike the feminist guy who is completely domesticated and utterly uninteresting to them!
No. It's politics and it is controversial/repulsive to them. They are not falling for him. Have you seen a video where a Nazi giving a speech on the street corner gets people "excited, engaged"? That's the kind of reaction controversial things get. It's like a plane crash on the news. It causes us to look and aghast. I say this not to attack you, but because I have to correct the faulty thinking of every man who believes this. Honest conversation. You are so delusional that you twisted a normal reaction into thinking, "She will fall for me/Ross."
All three of these guys know what works for what they want to achieve. One wants to get laid, one wants to feel equal, and one wants to feel heard by women. One adapts and overcomes, one reacts and feels hurt, and one just goes with the flow because it's the path of least resistance. It's like anything in life: work hard, learn from your mistakes, adapt, don't be emotional, and most importantly, don't be afraid to ruffle a few feathers along the way.
Finely described. They differ in how they view the human being and their wants, needs, and desires. I think with long-term thinking and with reverse engineering couples' experiences, those that have been in a lasting relationship with a certain degree of success, you notice that thay all agree that those instinctual animal drives and passions are not enough in the longterm. A fulfillment on a deeper level is required, and you have to figure out whether that potential is seen within eachother and that they can be influential and bring that out in one another. The first guest is talking for the guys that cannot even get a woman's attention, thus a level of manipulation or behavoiral psychology is involved to get it but he did not have the time to say his strategies for the long run (ruffled some feathers and got the emotions and tribal instincts going), the other one is pointing out the faults in woman's thoughts (being in his view creative and wearing a skirt), and the third is owning up to some of the faults men might have had through histroy. Based on personal experience good intentions and honesty is honestly the best policy, and a mature man with genuine self-esteem does not require such short cuts to partner up with someone he thinks he can be a good match for. He instead of starting with the wrong question and rotten strategy of how to get the woman has started with the correct issues of how to be the good man and is on the virtuous path of working on the self.
Great insight. If you only apply the PUA manipulation you're often left with shallow short relationships and it won't lead in to a family if that what he wants. On the other spectrum if you listen to the male feminist this leads to never getting your foot in the door and toxic behavior in the form of entitlement. The male feminist spends his youth conforming to the demands of his romantic interests believing that he's building equity and will deserve her love. when it isn't reciprocated he's becomes angry and bitter.
White Knight in full effect. Secretly driven by a desire for approval for what he thinks women want to hear. Meanwhile, every woman in that audience is responding to Ross. Not that Ross was some epic PUA, but he probably was getting laid a fair amount.
Time and time again, every single woman in that audience proved the point made by the 2 men on the left. With every single comment they made, every single audible laugh and smug grin, every single sassy body action. And STILL they cannot see it. The denial is incredible.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
massive cope. go ahead and post a Tinmdr profile of an overweight 80 year old wimum. watch as 500 matches pile up in 5 minutes of posting it. dudes out here are T.H.I.R.S.T.Y and desperate. wimmin will always have more options for men to date than they know what to do with.
he did say some stupid shit too, like without his tips you won't get any women, whereas a lot of wimpos actually do get married, and just end up being pussywipped
@@VeganCossack thats the thing about Ross, he says some great stuff along with a lot of malakies. Its just a matter of filtering through the rubbish and holding onto the good stuff.
It's weird how men do not value friendship at all. Nobody wants to associate with men for the sole purpose of sex. That's the last thing women want you for.
@@lumiere4460 Men absolutely value friendship, but not when it is used as a placeholder for keeping a guy around and setting him on the back burner. Do not mistake a mans feelings about the friend zone for his feelings about true platonic friendship. Is a guy is interested in a woman as a possible partner, then he isn't after a friendship in that one, and to push that interest into the friend zone is not something he's going to feel anything positive toward.
He's not being a placeholder. Are you trying to say that "a few guys don't want to be friends with someone they have a crush on"? If so, that's their prerogative, and a normal human being would just communicate their boundaries. That's between you two. They wouldn't come up with these bizarre models of the world (friendzone) and they wouldn't be so hostile to all friendship, on behalf of all men. @@root1657
@@lumiere4460 you are completely missing the entire thing here.... It is absolutely normal for men to hate the friend zone. Do guys want to be friends with a crush? No, they wanna crush it... Do some end up being stuck in the friend zone with a crush? Yeah, and they need to man up and be clear about their actual motivation, cause the friend zone is just a path to misery.
It's very interesting to hear the first two guys.. the feminist guy was just pathetic. The MRA did a very good job of pointing out the tactics of the women were to ridicule any man who tried to buck the system.. even to the point where women enforced gender-stereotyping on men as to what sort of clothes they could wear while simultaneously claiming complete freedom for themselves. The audience booed the non-conformists, cheered the lapdog, and wished doom on the pick-up artist, when all he was saying was that he wanted to have as much sexual power as a woman had. They do everything to ignore or override whatever the men say about their feelings.
The young guy is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Ross Jeffries is absolutely right. "I make no excuses for what I want. I don't need you - you need me." Maintained a neutral attitude. Mel Feit comes across as angry and looks very weird - hard to take him seriously. Bruce Weinstein - feminist mangina, pandering to women. Typical "nice guy."
Bill Sanders ..Ross and Mel both agree on the fundamentals: women either ignore or take advantage of decent blue pill guys.. and they want to fuck the dominant guy who doesn't give a shit..The guy in a skirt made the most sense! ..If he wasn't being a goofball, he could fuck bitches, too.. you know damn well if he exercised for a year and went out to start fucking that he COULD..but he likes being a goofy slob!
The reason they hate him is because this is a talk show and Ross had to explain his strategy, he specifically said that if you talk about it then it makes you look bad, you have to act on it and not explain it. Women won't get it if you do not explain it to them. So he is absolutely right. He is by no means good looking but he sure has a bad guy attitude that many women fall for.
@@NoName-dc5df If he was a bit better looking I probably would, but he is way too ugly for me. Like the bad guy persona works to a degree but he doesn't even look intimidating or boss-like, like he is dressed worse than the feminist of that group, he puts no effort at all in his appearance because he accepted he is not good looking but he could still upgrade a few things and make him look far better.
@@NoName-dc5df Late reply but the reality is not really. He is a little bit too ugly for me, if he had some more charisma and with his fierce personality then yes I would. Women want a good looking guy but a strong will one as well. The male feminist was adorable but what a wuss!
Ross was a pioneer for all would-be jestermaxxing "bad boys" indeed. Mel was the most based...but if he was truly based, he wouldn't even bother going on a woman's tv show to talk about this stuff because he would realize there's no point.
@@johnsampson6387 If just _one Man_ was watching the show at home and suddenly understood more about how Men are controlled... Then Mel's time was worth it.
***** Why do you idiots always assume not being able to get a women is better than a few bad relationships. It isnt. Ive experienced both sides and being rejected over and over and even avoiding it altogether was hell.
+Hubert Applebaum YEP 35 HERE STILL A VIRGIN !! im a sucsessful artist ive won chess tournaments im smart and ive done modelling, hahaha 35 yr old virgin amazing, women have thought tooth and nail to pretend they don't like PUA ! they really hate it but its their problem, but they make it mens problem when they pretend you have to be nice ! they really are awful #!
Tommy Boy no not at all ive got a huge sex rive and im a 35 yr old virgin, we just unfortunately believed women when they said be nice e.t.c, we were lied to by women who seemed to be good people, like my friends and my mother, why would anyone thin their own mother would lie to them, o course I believed her and followed her terrible advice, truth is women lie, if it ruins your life they don't care because at least they loo like delecate little angels while you believe their lies, but it is dat because when we realize we were lied to by supposedly good women, then we realize not only are all women cheap as uck, bhut they luie about it to anyone, and will be happy to ruin someones life just to keep up the lies ! of course its too late to try and start being overly confident arrogant and sleezy, ater you've been the total opposite all your lie its dificult to change to get the right personality to get women so we remain alone forever !
Tommy Boy no not religious ! but I have a lot of anxiety issues because ive got aspergers ! its kind o hard for me to ask or say anything to anyone, even ordering a take out is difficult and sometimes I miss out cuz I cant ggo in the store, so being over confident with women is kind o tricky ! but im very handsome wich helps a little !
Wow, these women are demolished by the 2 guys on stage. They constantly display all of the characteristics that they are talking about, and somehow do not even realize it, even when it is pointed out to them. Amazing.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Never heard of the Ross guy, but his actual assessment of women and their true mentality is dead on accurate. He was obviously putting on a show to get reactions from the audience, but his first few statements, you could tell he greatly knew what he was talking about and had figured something out in the female psyche.
HOLY FUCK 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m only 6 minutes in and this is BY FAR BEST, MOST ENTERTAINING TALKSHOW I’VE EVER WATCHED!!! Holy shit Ross Jeffries, you have some BALLS 🙌🙌😂
@@spacep0d Yea, fair. I guess though, if I were in that situation, I’d be scared of having the entire audience turn on me and just being the subject of ridicule for the next 30 mins….!
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Ross basically was a student in late 80s of Bandler during one of Bandler's seminars who cocreated NLP in the middle of 70s and Jeffries wich is Ross focused NLP specifically for dating and flirting which what basically is about speed seduction a sum of verbal patterns and more importantly working principles that if applied efficiently in a social setting can make wonders into that situation
The three men here PERFECTLY represent all the archetypes of masculinity throughout history: Bruce is owned by the system, Ross is working the system, and Mel has transcended the system. Actually Ross and Mel are two sides of the same coin, but they don't know it yet...in the case of Ross...he also must have transcended the system in order to work it, but he's come back to get his. Mel has also transcended the system but he's put himself in a place where he can operate independently of all systems, now that's some serious power there! I have been looking for material that perfectly capture the state of things between the sexes and all the sides of this issue, this is it! It's amazing how much cultural insight you can get from this. Which reminds me of my motto: "we're so screwed!".
I think you’re right but have different thoughts. The mra Mel did transcend in a sense. But what is the cost to him? He’s frustrated, bitter, angry all dedicated to a cause that hasn’t come to fruition ALL OF THESE YEARS. He has lost his vitality for something that never panned out. He might be right but it came at a very high cost to himself, so what’s the point? Ross to me isn’t completely right but he gets the girls (what he wants), keeps his values, and he looks happier than the mra. Plus he gets what the feminist man can’t. The feminist is whipped and serving a group of people who don’t even care about him. Do not serve people who don’t care whether you’re alive or not. The girls in the audience obviously don’t care about him at all-they probably care more about the mra than him- attention. Moral of the story it’s good to transcend, but don’t do so at the cost of yourself. If you do what’s the point of rising higher?
very good analysis. I would say Ross and Bruce are two sides of the same coin because both are behaving in a way to get attention from women. Mel is the one who has transcended because he doesn't rely on women.
The feminist on the right gets applause by the women like a zoo keeper does when he throws fish to a seal. Goes to show you the motivations of typical women and how *EASY* it is to stroke their vanity driven ego. It was never about equality but chiefly about their varying feelings.
it's a show most women if you do those speed seduction patterns or hypnosis properly can't see what's happening since it is disguised as a normal convo with normal words the tone of voice and the topics you talk about affect the female psyche to spark that sexual feelings for many women icecream is a pleasure or chocolate cake just by casually mentioning them into a long descriptive conversation verbal pattern its near the part of the brain or memory where sex is nearby or a hot bath with vivid descriptions or watching a sunset or a back massage you can talk about all these normal topics socially acceptable and get away with since the process will take care of itself in your favour she will be turned on even if not immediately for some it is delayed a couple of hours or days women want these mental phantasies anyways they dream about these stories they want to live them
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Did y’all notice how the women were fascinated by Ross, interested in his opinion and tried to convince him to “love women” because deep down, they knew he was speaking the truth and they knew that they were attracted to men like him. They were disgusted by the inc£l in the dress because he was emotional and throwing a tantrum. They didn’t pay attention to the $imp other than clapping for him ( “good boy-good boy”)🧒
@@AppleJacksCereal The only thing the MRA did wrong was caring too much about winning a losing battle. When you're a young man, you'll probably look up to Ross and when you're older, you'll probably realize that Mel is the one to admire of the 3... (Speaking for myself, anyways).
@@AJ-ht7ms oh trust me they were, even if they might claim or even believed otherwise. Women are very contradictory mentally. They say they’re attracted to something and then completely chase after the exact opposite of what they say. I’ve slept with too many girls after being purposely rude and obnoxious to them, at the same time I watched them relegate their nice friends ( who clearly had feelings for them) to the friend zone.
@@learn1718The reality is that you didn't pay fucking attention, Ross said else if looks isn't good so you must increase the attitude that attracs them
The guy wore a skirt and they ask “doesn’t this invite harrassment?” Imagine asking a woman if her skirt “invites harrassment.” That’s *literally* what happens in this video.
I can't believe this is from 1992. Mel is by far the most ahead of his time person on this panel. He's literally mgtow before it was even a vague concept without a name.
After watching a crowd of women punctuate their argument with a shaming practice I couldn't watch anymore. Switch the audience to men and the speakers to women and this would be a harassment case. It's disgusting.
And a second thought that I forgot in my frustration, and recall now that I have calmed down. What value was it to flash an add for a men's center, that aids men in bad situations, immediately after the entirely, female audience had just made trash of male honor? Seems counter productive.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Canary in the coal mine. They had no response for what he was saying because they all knew it was the truth. They would rather argue with Ross then have to face Mel's truths.
@@Thor-Orion Ross is just a clown they could easily throw pies at. It's fun for them. Mel is the grim reality that they don't even want to touch because it's too difficult.
Isn't this the guy who wrote the very first pickup artist book? He literally coined the phrase "pickup artist". Now I feel like buying and reading his book.
pua word was invented by Mystery Ross is teaching NLP with his speed seduction he is an old venerable man today i don't think he still teaches seduction he retired kind of due to old age
The guy on the left seems like the red pill. The guy in the middle is like a mgtow/black pill. The guy on the right is like a blue pill (play into the system and you'll get rewarded). This was really interesting.
Blue pill is being the male best friend and self avowed male feminist because you think women will like you more by being a male ally. They will only tolerate you but won't actually find you attractive. The system doesn't reward you for playing into it, it surgically removes your masculinity.
This is one of the greatest videos I've seen. Mel is a genius, he speaks so well and thinks so quickly. Ross's outburst about the pedestal joke was fucking hilarious too.
I love it honestly. Mel is WAY more intelligent than that trained parrot with a phd. And even he is like "fuck I like Ross more than everyone else in this room combined."
This was very interesting to watch, because the comments we are getting today from women via 2016 HAS NOT CHANGED 1 BIT IN 1992. That means women's answers has not changed or evolved in the slightest. Men are still if not more so, ignored today than as they were in the past. Which leads me to conclude one thing: DO NOT CARE WHAT THEY SAY, WATCH WHAT THEY DO.
which is why these "incel" and "mgtow" movements are so flawed. if they tried to go PUA or at least tried to get better with women they'd learn this. Totally dead on comment! Also, a lot of things are cyclical. In 1992, 93, we were talking about "political correctness", Camille Paglia was saying much of the same shit Jordan Peterson says now (And there were a lot of differing cultural forces that are similar), etc
Ive made the mistake of verbalizing the attitude in the past..... I got so deep into game, I got overconfident and would start blabbing on about why what I did worked, etc..... These skills are for YOU to use as a man, women dont always need to know the WHY, of why theyre attracted to you....
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Damn, you just look at that hair and that wardrobe. Not even a cross over from the end of the 80's era. That's how you know you're in the 90's. But wait a minute what about all those women who were writing all those articles on how to get men to do what you want. Even I've read those. Beauty tips, weight loss, how to drive your man wild and how to get them to do what you want.
I’m 58 years old now and retired from the Army. My family has genetics that makes us age a lot slower than the average person in our ethnic group (Northern European) so we appear an average of 13 years younger, it’s nice now but when I was 20 years old it was annoying. About 10 years ago I noticed a couple young ladies flirting with me which stunned me and it was pretty obvious on what they wanted. Men today are in a bad position since they’ve been indoctrinated by society that it’s fine to be fat, lazy and basically useless. So that means the pool of potential husbands/mates for women is smaller but to be fair, women are in the same boat as men. Once a man knows a couple ways on how women think, it makes things a lot easier. Women are motivated and stimulated by what they hear where men are stimulated by what we see. African Americans are very good at convincing women to sleep with them because the man doesn’t give up and he stays focused on his goal. If a man has a deeper voice and is able to orate with ease, women find that very attractive because she knows what his social standing will be and how productive his career will be. In my case, I served as an Infantryman for 26 years and women (especially female Soldiers) are attracted to Grunts like me because we have a very manly profession. When I would visit a girlfriend who lived in the barracks and was in the Army, I would be approached by women while waiting in the hallway, it got to the point where I had to go wait in the stairwell. Think about it, if we have two men of equal intelligence, looks and income, which man would the woman choose if one was an Infantryman and the other was a cook? God bless our cooks but it’s safe to say which way she’ll go. I had 25 girlfriends from age 19 to 25 and that’s just the ones I was intimate with. I somehow got lucky and met a 21 year old lady from Puerto Rico and was a virgin. I put a ring on her finger 5 months after meeting her, we’ve been married for 33 years now and we get along great. After a woman has around 5 failed relationships, her chances of being able to function as a wife drops greatly. I almost got snagged by a single mother….twice but I learned my lesson and avoided them big time. Years later a couple of my old girlfriends contacted me on Facebook and they apologized for declining to marry me, it shocked me since I wasn’t expecting that. One of them would have two failed marriages and no children and lives with her mother and works from home. I wouldn’t wish her plight on anyone but that’s the result of her thinking there will be something better around the corner but by the time she figures it out, it’s too late, she’s no longer a young and beautiful lady and no decent man wants an old woman when the man can find a woman 15-20 years younger than him if he wanted.
I love this comment. Thank you for sharing. I'm currently 36, have money, and own a home that will be paid off next year. No kids, never married, 6 foot tall, broad shoulders, popular guy, and I have a deep voice. I no longer have any real desire to date near-infertile over the hill women, my age or older,💍anymore. Like you said, I can go lower in age with the women I date. I can still have a happy and healthy family.
@@jesseforce9933 Hello Jesse, I’m trying to picture what demographic/ethnic group you’re in so I’m going with traditional American (Western European/Nordic) like myself. You’re in a great position and I can see that if a woman knew your holdings and financial position, she’ll fake it to get you to put a ring on her finger. I grew up in southern Oregon where it’s still 85% conservative due to the harsh winters and local economy. But I retired in San Antonio, TX in 2009 and I’ve seen tons of fat, low IQ and useless women who’re brainwashed in liberalism so if there were great ladies here, they’re long gone after the brainwashing. The good ones are equally frustrated about good men since the same indoctrination that destroys the women, affect men the same way. Going online to find someone is usually problematic since you don’t know if she’s being honest. And on top of that, most good women will already have a “fuck trophy” aka; child. And no man should be saddled to raise another man’s kid and women know this so they’ll hide that little detail until she decides to explain. It may sound crazy to you but what I found success in was my Puerto Rican wife, they don’t get the same indoctrination there and she was a virgin (I’m not lying, I basically had to get a box of crayolas and a Big Chief pad and draw the logistics involved in sex, lol.). We all look for a Diamond in the rough but it’s damn tough. There are some single women that’re worth your time but, you’ll always be facing a huge issue that most women do, they won’t let the new step father discipline the child as a father but she’ll happily let you babysit and do fun things with the kids but the moment you speak up about a shady new friend or dropping out of high school without consequences and she’ll attack you and threaten to leave/divorce. This is the norm with single mothers. I almost married a single mother and I dodged a huge bullet with that chick. And you have to watch out for some women that age rapidly and I mean RAPIDLY! A lot of women will look hot in their 20’s since they “bloomed” at a younger age due to her DNA but when they hit 35, oh god, who did I marry starts crossing your mind, my wife is still good looking and at 125lbs and also has slow aging DNA like me. But it really boils down to who you can see being a friend with for the rest of your life, what makes you smile when you’re around her, is she a self starter and takes on projects that she always does well and never quits? No smokers by the way, they rarely quit and if they do, the damage is already set in and she’ll have serious medical issues later on and not to mention what it does to their face, turns their skin into shoe leather. If time permits, go visit another small city that’s more rural and conservative than most and hit their county fair, other similar events, etc but avoid the bars/clubs. You’ll need to look for a lady in her early 20’s, no older than 25 and has a low body count of no more than 3-4. Finding a virgin at that age is near impossible today. If you’re of Hispanic decent, there’s some hot chicks in Mexico whose families held their Spanish bloodlines pure over the centuries so they appear white and it’ll kind of confuse you at first. There’s also a large group of Irish Mexicans that immigrated there in the early 1800’s as well as some Mormons (Mormons are nice but it’s a cult to be avoided at all costs). Maybe just take a month and go load up a camper or RV and go travel and explore areas you like and meat people, you’d be amazed at what you’ll learn and who you’ll meet. And always smile when you’re out and about, dress like a man, keep your hair well cut and beard under control, chicks focus on those things. And if you have difficulty approaching ladies, just use humor. Learn the body language women will display when they’re interested in you, they all do the same things, there’s videos on RUclips that can help you on that topic. When you go to a restaurant to eat alone, always bring a book or magazine to read as you wait since you may start to feel awkward as you wait for the food and women will pick that up. Women will often pretend to be talking on their cell phone if they don’t want to look or talk with you so keep that in mind, it’s kind of fun if they’re a liberal with orange hair, you can hurl hilarious insults at them and they’ll ignore it, lol. I’ll stop for now but please ask any questions and I’ll do my best to help since a good man shouldn’t be alone if he doesn’t want to.
@@jesseforce9933The larger the age gap the higher the chance of divorce according to divorce statistics. Also the majority of women who are into dating men way older then themselves are usually in it for the money, so if you want to be used by a gold digger and then lose half your shit in the divorce go ahead. Not only that, if you keep waiting and getting older your sperm isn't going to be as healthy which can lead to complications in your children. Sperm banks don't take guys over 35 for that reason. Stop thinking you have a lot of time because you are a guy, it won't work out well.
Wow, the woman saw how the man was dressed and asked him if it didn't invite harassment? You...you mean, a WOMAN, blamed a victim of harassment, because of what he was wearing?! I thought only men did that. Well, luckily we live in a much more civilized time. heh
yeah i love the hypocrisy women are always like are you saying that because i dressed this way i am asking for it and then when the guy wears a skirt they say that he is asking for harassment wow just wow and the worst part is they don't see the irony in that
***** Hey dipshit you just watched a show with an audience of 100% women harassing this guy for what he was wearing. I say again WOMEN harassing him for what he is wearing.
Its funny how women complain of such harassment and shaming, when most is done by other women. I like how the women boo the pua put applaud the femtard, but i,ll bet its the pua that has the most luck with women. Women are driven by emotion, they want the bad guy, they just want him to be nice with them, even better if she can claim she 'changed him'
***** Your 2nd and 3rd (and probably 4th) paragraphs are very true. I don't need to repeat them, but what you stated has been backed up and verified by numerous social and anthropological studies. Regarding your 4th paragraph (in regards to "Felisha"...is that her name?), without knowing her, I'm still about 99.5% sure that's an accurate assessment of her nature and belief system.
This is an interesting debate where three men with different views are able to get along in a civil manner. The male feminists got all the applause for pandering to women but he never received a compliment. The MRA received ridiculed and disdain for expressing men's issues and not abiding to the society's gender norms by wearing a skirt. The PUA was obnoxious and controversial but he ending up getting more attention from the audience than the other two, even thought it wasn't positive.
It's amazing, women's reaction over a societal analysis of men and women relationships has been, is, and will always be " you're sad, you're single, you're hurt " 😆
What's crazy is they didn't even talk to the guy on the right, which just reinforces Ross Jeffries view that nice guys don't get as far with most women.
"He says women would be better off if only women listen to what he has to say." The response to that was a big applause. The response to him actually talking was crickets.
The domineering masculine black chicks show why most men don't like that kind of woman, men want a woman that can argue without yelling at the top of her voice and trying to be dominant over the man. And women don't want a soft submissive man, Ross was 100 percent right.
but yet Ross himself rebelled against the emphasis on "Alpha Males" in the PUA scene later in his career, interestingly enough. He just didn't want his followers to be pushovers which were much of his clientele
Saw this one a few years ago. Just remains pure gold! A PUA and MRA just dropping truthbombs, and the contrast between those 2 on one hand, and the male feminist on the other, really tops it off!
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down He is old now You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Been 32 years and history is proving Ross right.
Can u give out the gogle docs, it's very good
That 3rd guy is a sellout…..come on man….protect the manhood!
Not "is proving", but "has proven".
Frfr
What actually Ross want to say I didn't understand. Can you please explain me ?
"Never ask the fish for fishing advice" ask the fisher man for fishing advice" love this anology
Dude i loved this . I had another thing. Ask a chief how he cook the food. Not a critic
That analogy works with fish, but not with people. The difference is a fish can’t tell you what it wants, and also wouldn’t tell you because it wouldn’t want to get fished and killed. Dating isn’t like a hunt, so this analogy seems logical but isn’t the greatest.
Sure, you can get dating advice from other guys, but also considering dating advice from women is very beneficial. I’ve seen lots of guys who say that even if a girl says “no” to still try to pursue a relationship. But every woman I know, including myself hates when a guy doesn’t leave us alone if we tell them we are not interested. That’s an example when taking advice from a woman is better.
However that doesn’t mean men don’t give good advice! You just need to be careful about whose advice you take and take everything with a grain of salt. I would say the people that have some of the greatest dating/love advice are the people who have been married for years/decades. (But that’s my opinion)
I just personally really dislike the fish analogy because it kind of dismisses what woman want/like in relationships.
But the most important part is that everyone is different. So if one guy gives dating advice it might not work for you and might not attract the girl your trying to attract. Same goes with advice from girls. I might give advice based on my preferences, but the girl your trying to attract could have completely different preferences.
@@lelouchvibritannia4235 OMG thank you for saying this.
I'm horrified by the comments section. They actually think that manipulating women's emotions is a flex. It isn't. Its not cool to women. We don't feel good to know that there are guys who want to control what we feel or how we react.
Ross used a very famous manipulation tactic that works on all people regardless of their gender. And there are so many men acting like they all know what women are supposed to feel like making us feel like we are supposed to some objects or machines that are supposed to be controlled by them.
Is that supposed to make us feel good? Or even safe? Are we like supposed to be okay with men trying to use us for whatever they need without being even reassured of our own safety?
How about we all COMMUNICATE and accept the fact that all women don't have the same type? And instead just go for women who are actually into them from the starting.
Bruh, I hate to break it to you. But unfortunately, we, the women, don't resemble the fishes in the slightest manner. We are not fishes. The analogy is just too much of a cringe.
@@ananyaverma9599 Only self aware women truly know what they want; most women aren't self aware enough
Bruce was so nice he got left out the whole show lol
He got all the applause when he said anything. The other two guys didn't give him much of a chance to talk because controversy makes for better television. People don't like to see things they agree with. Just look at the daily news cycle. Fox intentionally cooks up stories designed to offend Trumpists, while CNN or NBC writes up stories that will be concerning to left-wingers. Just because the audience responds it doesn't mean they agree or like what is being said.
Lol
So True 🤣🤣🤣
Nice guy finished last 😂😂 real time
@@lok6314dude was a phony anyway. Just look at him
The way Ross stayed in frame in the face of non-stop shaming attempts and gaslighting is a thing to admire.
Ross gave women in this audience exactly what they wanted, strong emotions.
american society was much more libertine and free in speech in the 80s for a mainstream popular tv to allow that
today this is unspeakable or unthinkable to allow jeffries or any other to tak about thisss
decay of democracy and individual freedsoms
drama
There are 2 men and a gay
@@topg4400 I can't stop my laugh buddy 😂
@@opreadumitru1it's still the same. As long as you exercise your rights.
The audience proved Ross's point every step of the way.
He produced the most emotion and response from them.
While you could see the glazed eyes and disinterest whenever the male feminist spoke without a soundbite included like he's running for office.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction course mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
I got phone numbers and soon I will get dates as well
Anytime Ross was speaking you could see a lot of those women were checkin this man out
Trying to make a point by wearing a dress does the opposite but the only one who made any sense was Mel Feig, this pedestalizing of sex has made men so pathetic in the west and caused its downfall. When men do not focus on being strong same as with Rome or Samson in the Bible,.they go to their doom along with the women and children in their society. Mel should not have demeaned, dehumanized and degraded himself/all men by wearing a dress.
You need more than one woman in your life to sleep with/see naked.
So many stereotypes confirmed
" I only care about what women respond to " and boy did they respond 😂😂😂
was just a show with humurous and enterntainment purposes while also indirectly promoting RJ and the other two dudes
I used some of SS (speed seduction) in real life but the results vary a lot depending on whom you encounter in streets or other public places and how vivid or life experienced the woman is
I watched this video 5 times, and it is still interesting how Ross was right about women in the era that there was no flow of information like today, and he was absolutely right👏
Smart guy with experience
And he still is, I get them to react and then create mystery and go missing for a few days/ weeks. Works like a Charm.
Ross is like the founding father of manosphere
@@highgatehandyman64796479 Actually, if you go further back, you will see that it is the African Americans who had to face feminism first. Listen to some of the rap songs from the 80's and you will assess it for yourself. Cheers.
Poor guy had NO ONE who listened to him back then, ahead of his time.
I love how Ross' point is being made.
He doesn't care what women say they want, or think they want. He's interested in what they respond to, and it clearly shows, these women are responding, to that statement. They don't even know what they're walking into.
Talk that Talk!!
😂😂😂
Damn I like how the women were attacking Ross, but were really interested in him. That's crazy, it really is about what women emotionally respond to.
Bamaboy123 Right, what they say isn't what they really feel. Those women were very interested in Ross.
Ostensibly, I agree that they were testing him - and their attention was most definitely zeroed in on him. I would imagine that none of them felt turned on per say, but it probably had more to do with the alpha-chick on the mic openly ridiculing him than anything about Ross, or what he said.
The third guy was completely invisible on this discussion and the point was completely proven. It's ridiculous that they still couldn't see the point the two were trying to make.
Kotaro Katzura women are clueless
I didn't feel alot of tension between Faith and Ross, but who thinks they selpt together after all this?
"Women say one thing and mean another" is all the advice you need about women as a male
But remember courts of law and public opinion believe what they 'say' exclusively ---so watch your step!!!
And that women are stupid .
Over 30 years later and I'm sure Bruce is still lurking in the friend zone 🙄
Yup unfortunately
Or not having a clue about how his woman is getting tag teamed and trampolined while he's at work. 😂😂😂
Bruce was the perfect advocatus diaboli. I'd bet he found the RP after his dieworse and said to himself: i should have listened to the two guys at that NBC show years ago.
Haha but seriously Bruce should've gotten a sex change. Absolutely no man should call themselves a feminist
Rumor has it that Bruce became a serial rapist later in life .
Anybody notice how ross was getting all the attention.
Johnie Sears HAHAHAHA.. Ross is such a shit bag(according to the audience) but they ALL wanted to talk to him.... hahahaha.
Johnie Sears Very, very telling...
Not all men are jerks just the ones who realize that's often what it takes to get real results just like Ross says.
It’s because Ross had testosterone, unlike the other two “men” lmao. Ross was spitting hard knowledge.
what do you think that means? youtube's full of interviews of people like dahmer, manson and richard kuklinkski, and they get millions of views. do you think that means people want to befriend them, sleep with them, or something? i want to know why when this guy's focused on by the crowd it means one thing, but when a mob hitman is so talked about in American culture that he's practically a celebrity, you (and this goes for anyone who backs this jeffres guy since i doubt the op still visits this video) draw a different meaning.
his ideas, and they're not really his ideas, just ideas he used, but the idea of neuro-linguistic programming is nothing more than a pseudoscience. in fact, he really reminds me of a lot of other crackpots of the era. People like Frank Dux, George Dillon. They'd go around on TV, make ridiculous claims, use pseudoscience for their claims, dupe a few chumps into forking over some money.
The black lady that said "Without your mothers you wouldn't be here." There you go, classic shaming tactic from women, especially black women. Kevin Samuels, RIP, mentioned this many times.
Exactly! They forget to think that without a male(fathers), there is no pregnancy.
SHE IS A LADY FIRST. HER RACE IS NOT RELEVANT
GIVE YOUR LIFE TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST
Women are stupid, without sperm there wouldn't be baby either - it's literally called "seed" lol
You know what's amazing....we now have prototype artificial wombs 😂
We now only need men's sperm 😂😂
Suck it
The same crowd of women would have been applauding to everything Ross said if he was a woman, and she would be considerate an indipendent, self-fulfilled, sexually empowered woman
Woman takes charge of her situation and is confident and in your face with no inhibitions. We love it.
Man does same thing. We hate it.
Eh not so sure about that, women love their groupthink and tend to ostracise those who get too based.
@@bleensteen9331 One of the best tested reasons why women shouldn't be leaders in stressful occupations.
Nowadays? Nah. Plus women used the promiscuity thing because they thought it would "empower" them. I don't think normal women think that being promiscuous is a good thing in 2024.
Ross did great. Dude literally explained to the women how he gets them to react and they did exactly that. Shout out to the MRA though, that portion where he was talking about women ridiculing men for how they feel and then the host making him stand up cause of his Outfit was the best moment of the show. They really exposed female nature here.
I didn't understand what ross actually want to say can you please explain this to me?
@@cosmos7427 He was explaining to the audience of women that the things they SAY they want are not nearly as important as to what they react to. From his experience, getting a woman’s reaction has garnered him more success with them. He then proves this by simply saying that same thing differently throughout the show and eliciting greater reactions from the women . Meanwhile the guy talking about female empowerment was so unimportant he could’ve just not been there and the women wouldn’t have noticed.
@@cosmos7427 Ross said: when it comes to women do what works, not what they say works. Judge them by their actions not words"...you can tell Ross was very secure in himself and they had the most interest in him than in the male feminist
Only the MRA guy cares about truth and no to hypocrisy while the POA one cares what works in real world, the last one is a politician
Jesus, dude. The reason women don't like you is this BS attitude of yours. It's not their fault you're a crappy man.
Fix yourself instead of blaming an entire gender.
The best part of this was when all of the women in the audience reacted *exactly* the way both the MRA and PUA predicted, just moments before the reaction manifested.
That's what I thought too. The women were very fascinated with Ross, and held the MRA in contempt, then ignored the feminist almost entirely.
Joseph Them ignoring the Feminist was the best part. A man that acts like a women is only useful as a tampon.
@@DeathFromAboveGames Women are smitten by courage and those willing to speak the discomfiting truth. They know how they are and they can barely stand each other. Most of the women in the audience were well past their expiry date too.
society(a few dominant elite familes) want to wage war on men since only men can truly fight technocratic totalitarianism women by their verry nature is to submit to authority see the plandemic of 2020 how sheep got vaxxed with that poison in their bodies
@@opreadumitru1 The choice is up to the man of course. Porn keeps men from a far more dangerous option....relationships with real women or worse, marriage.
They all say they hate Ross, but he's the one who got them excited and engaged, because he's a wild card which intrigues them. They're desperately trying to shame him and tame him, bcuz women are intrinsically programmed to tame and control men, either through charming them or shaming them, but when they fail at both that's when they fall hard for the guy. Unlike the feminist guy who is completely domesticated and utterly uninteresting to them!
So true
Excellent analysis.
Totally brilliant and apt comment.
So well put.
No. It's politics and it is controversial/repulsive to them. They are not falling for him.
Have you seen a video where a Nazi giving a speech on the street corner gets people "excited, engaged"? That's the kind of reaction controversial things get. It's like a plane crash on the news. It causes us to look and aghast.
I say this not to attack you, but because I have to correct the faulty thinking of every man who believes this. Honest conversation.
You are so delusional that you twisted a normal reaction into thinking, "She will fall for me/Ross."
All three of these guys know what works for what they want to achieve. One wants to get laid, one wants to feel equal, and one wants to feel heard by women. One adapts and overcomes, one reacts and feels hurt, and one just goes with the flow because it's the path of least resistance. It's like anything in life: work hard, learn from your mistakes, adapt, don't be emotional, and most importantly, don't be afraid to ruffle a few feathers along the way.
Finely described.
They differ in how they view the human being and their wants, needs, and desires. I think with long-term thinking and with reverse engineering couples' experiences, those that have been in a lasting relationship with a certain degree of success, you notice that thay all agree that those instinctual animal drives and passions are not enough in the longterm. A fulfillment on a deeper level is required, and you have to figure out whether that potential is seen within eachother and that they can be influential and bring that out in one another. The first guest is talking for the guys that cannot even get a woman's attention, thus a level of manipulation or behavoiral psychology is involved to get it but he did not have the time to say his strategies for the long run (ruffled some feathers and got the emotions and tribal instincts going), the other one is pointing out the faults in woman's thoughts (being in his view creative and wearing a skirt), and the third is owning up to some of the faults men might have had through histroy. Based on personal experience good intentions and honesty is honestly the best policy, and a mature man with genuine self-esteem does not require such short cuts to partner up with someone he thinks he can be a good match for. He instead of starting with the wrong question and rotten strategy of how to get the woman has started with the correct issues of how to be the good man and is on the virtuous path of working on the self.
Amazing insight!
Great insight. If you only apply the PUA manipulation you're often left with shallow short relationships and it won't lead in to a family if that what he wants. On the other spectrum if you listen to the male feminist this leads to never getting your foot in the door and toxic behavior in the form of entitlement. The male feminist spends his youth conforming to the demands of his romantic interests believing that he's building equity and will deserve her love. when it isn't reciprocated he's becomes angry and bitter.
Excellent comment, Brian!
If you think Ross is getting laid you are coping
Ross : Satisfied guy
Mel: Frustrated guy
Bruce: Simp
Fax
Hahaha those are the new terms used in pua
Exactly, well said.
What’s a simp…?
@@Wafaloo The opposite of a pimp
The guy on the right...no words. The desperation is real....
+kcozgrove all he'll get are leftovers
+James Alex he's what you call a "cleaner fish";)
White Knight in full effect. Secretly driven by a desire for approval for what he thinks women want to hear. Meanwhile, every woman in that audience is responding to Ross. Not that Ross was some epic PUA, but he probably was getting laid a fair amount.
The Mangina probably left the room with the angry black lady and went on a date.
Right, he was way more likely to be going home alone than either of the other two guys.
Time and time again, every single woman in that audience proved the point made by the 2 men on the left. With every single comment they made, every single audible laugh and smug grin, every single sassy body action. And STILL they cannot see it. The denial is incredible.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Talk that Talk!
Walk the walk!
Yet here we have generations of women embittered and alone, having been used up and cast aside by all the bad boys. This aged like fine wine
They are not worth of anything else
massive cope. go ahead and post a Tinmdr profile of an overweight 80 year old wimum. watch as 500 matches pile up in 5 minutes of posting it. dudes out here are T.H.I.R.S.T.Y and desperate. wimmin will always have more options for men to date than they know what to do with.
The bad boys don't verbalize their attitude and they are challenges to women.
DAMNNNN ROSS is dropping Bombs like it is Vietnam.
fuck yeah! xp
you mean nagasaki
he did say some stupid shit too, like without his tips you won't get any women, whereas a lot of wimpos actually do get married, and just end up being pussywipped
@@VeganCossack thats the thing about Ross, he says some great stuff along with a lot of malakies. Its just a matter of filtering through the rubbish and holding onto the good stuff.
The MRA guy was spitting facts too. Then we got the other guy...
"You want a friend
Get a dog"- Ross
It's weird how men do not value friendship at all.
Nobody wants to associate with men for the sole purpose of sex. That's the last thing women want you for.
@@lumiere4460 Dogs are far better than you manipulative bitches.
@@lumiere4460 Men absolutely value friendship, but not when it is used as a placeholder for keeping a guy around and setting him on the back burner. Do not mistake a mans feelings about the friend zone for his feelings about true platonic friendship. Is a guy is interested in a woman as a possible partner, then he isn't after a friendship in that one, and to push that interest into the friend zone is not something he's going to feel anything positive toward.
He's not being a placeholder. Are you trying to say that "a few guys don't want to be friends with someone they have a crush on"?
If so, that's their prerogative, and a normal human being would just communicate their boundaries. That's between you two. They wouldn't come up with these bizarre models of the world (friendzone) and they wouldn't be so hostile to all friendship, on behalf of all men. @@root1657
@@lumiere4460 you are completely missing the entire thing here.... It is absolutely normal for men to hate the friend zone. Do guys want to be friends with a crush? No, they wanna crush it... Do some end up being stuck in the friend zone with a crush? Yeah, and they need to man up and be clear about their actual motivation, cause the friend zone is just a path to misery.
Women telling a guy who gets women : 'You don't understand women!' will never get old 🤣🤣🤣
The cherry on top of the cake is that every women wanted to talk to Ross, like he said "They want a guy that's a challenge."
"I wanna put women on a pedestal so I can look up your skirts"
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Then granny bites her lip!
He smoothly pass the shit test mate
I thought it was rude. I would never date a guy who makes comments like that.
@@lelouchvibritannia4235 i thought it was funny.
@@lelouchvibritannia4235 I'm not sure he cares what a gay guy thinks
It's very interesting to hear the first two guys.. the feminist guy was just pathetic. The MRA did a very good job of pointing out the tactics of the women were to ridicule any man who tried to buck the system.. even to the point where women enforced gender-stereotyping on men as to what sort of clothes they could wear while simultaneously claiming complete freedom for themselves.
The audience booed the non-conformists, cheered the lapdog, and wished doom on the pick-up artist, when all he was saying was that he wanted to have as much sexual power as a woman had. They do everything to ignore or override whatever the men say about their feelings.
You nailed it
Brett Caton big facts all he’ll Pick up artist ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
The feminist was a heartthrob ♥️
The young guy is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Wow good luck with your romance life
Ross's body language and demeanor just one the debate without words! Pure Alpha 😎
The two on the left are leaning away from the wimp on the right
@@agentolshki1690 I would be too!
This show is the typical women's show, which has NOT changed in 30-50 years!
"Ross, I think you're gona end up a lonely man" lol. She has no clue.
joe bloggs judging from her mannerisms, she digs the Ross guy.
joe bloggs Hahaha exactly
What she is actually saying is "Ross, I HOPE you're gonna end up lonely", pathetically butt hurt.
The Man From Utopia 😂😂😂
That's what my manager at my apt. complex told me this morning!
Ross Jeffries is absolutely right. "I make no excuses for what I want. I don't need you - you need me." Maintained a neutral attitude. Mel Feit comes across as angry and looks very weird - hard to take him seriously. Bruce Weinstein - feminist mangina, pandering to women. Typical "nice guy."
Can't hardly blame Mel as he's angry with women because they don't seem to care about men as they care about themselves.
Bill Sanders ..Ross and Mel both agree on the fundamentals: women either ignore or take advantage of decent blue pill guys.. and they want to fuck the dominant guy who doesn't give a shit..The guy in a skirt made the most sense! ..If he wasn't being a goofball, he could fuck bitches, too.. you know damn well if he exercised for a year and went out to start fucking that he COULD..but he likes being a goofy slob!
..ironic as it is.. Mel is the only one up there with integrity
Weinstein is the prototypical simp.
@@RankedShooter lol best comment by far.
Talk Show Host: Ross, what do women want?
Ross Jeffries: I don’t care what they want, I only care what they respond to.
FACTS 💯💥💥💥
The reason they hate him is because this is a talk show and Ross had to explain his strategy, he specifically said that if you talk about it then it makes you look bad, you have to act on it and not explain it. Women won't get it if you do not explain it to them. So he is absolutely right. He is by no means good looking but he sure has a bad guy attitude that many women fall for.
Because it's supposed to be a secret.
You fell for him too, huh?
@@NoName-dc5df If he was a bit better looking I probably would, but he is way too ugly for me. Like the bad guy persona works to a degree but he doesn't even look intimidating or boss-like, like he is dressed worse than the feminist of that group, he puts no effort at all in his appearance because he accepted he is not good looking but he could still upgrade a few things and make him look far better.
I think he looks pretty good in an unconventional way and hes holds himself really well
@@NoName-dc5df Late reply but the reality is not really. He is a little bit too ugly for me, if he had some more charisma and with his fierce personality then yes I would. Women want a good looking guy but a strong will one as well.
The male feminist was adorable but what a wuss!
It's funny watching this 26 years later seeing how accurate they were. Ross was a pioneer.
Still accurate another 5 years later
And I bet it will be accurate in 2077 still, and long beyond that.
Ross was a pioneer for all would-be jestermaxxing "bad boys" indeed. Mel was the most based...but if he was truly based, he wouldn't even bother going on a woman's tv show to talk about this stuff because he would realize there's no point.
@@johnsampson6387 Yeah Mel was spot on but it's a waste of breath to try and make those women accept the reality
@@johnsampson6387
If just _one Man_ was watching the show at home and suddenly understood more about how Men are controlled...
Then Mel's time was worth it.
I have been a nice guy for 80 years and now I'm still a virgin.
***** Why do you idiots always assume not being able to get a women is better than a few bad relationships. It isnt. Ive experienced both sides and being rejected over and over and even avoiding it altogether was hell.
Check your privilege shitlord
+Hubert Applebaum YEP 35 HERE STILL A VIRGIN !! im a sucsessful artist ive won chess tournaments im smart and ive done modelling, hahaha 35 yr old virgin amazing, women have thought tooth and nail to pretend they don't like PUA ! they really hate it but its their problem, but they make it mens problem when they pretend you have to be nice ! they really are awful #!
Tommy Boy no not at all ive got a huge sex rive and im a 35 yr old virgin, we just unfortunately believed women when they said be nice e.t.c, we were lied to by women who seemed to be good people, like my friends and my mother, why would anyone thin their own mother would lie to them, o course I believed her and followed her terrible advice, truth is women lie, if it ruins your life they don't care because at least they loo like delecate little angels while you believe their lies, but it is dat because when we realize we were lied to by supposedly good women, then we realize not only are all women cheap as uck, bhut they luie about it to anyone, and will be happy to ruin someones life just to keep up the lies ! of course its too late to try and start being overly confident arrogant and sleezy, ater you've been the total opposite all your lie its dificult to change to get the right personality to get women so we remain alone forever !
Tommy Boy no not religious ! but I have a lot of anxiety issues because ive got aspergers ! its kind o hard for me to ask or say anything to anyone, even ordering a take out is difficult and sometimes I miss out cuz I cant ggo in the store, so being over confident with women is kind o tricky ! but im very handsome wich helps a little !
I read Ross' book back in early 2000 and found it fascinating... later on, I applied it, and his methods actually worked...I was out of control😊
What's the name of the book?
@@IrfanKhan-qb6zoHe advertises it. It is also sponsored in the video. Just be patient, pay attention, and read bro; it's not that hard.
Female empowerment in 1992: don’t buy pornography 2021: do buy girls only fans
Not even that. They champion women doing OF, but they shame the men that pay for it. Funny how that goes lol.
@@jayrollo1352
I think that is what you call double standards for girls, am I right?
@@jayrollo1352It was like that way before onlyfools. It just became more mainstream.
If feminists didn’t have double standards they wouldn’t have any standards at all.
Wow, these women are demolished by the 2 guys on stage. They constantly display all of the characteristics that they are talking about, and somehow do not even realize it, even when it is pointed out to them. Amazing.
Solipsism is a characteristic of the female.
It's called irony
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
The purple suit guy is the guy who loses all his money in the divorce whilst his wife is sleeping with Ross.
Accurate
That would be hilarious if he actually poached his wife!
The audience proved actually what Ross was saying..
Never heard of the Ross guy, but his actual assessment of women and their true mentality is dead on accurate. He was obviously putting on a show to get reactions from the audience, but his first few statements, you could tell he greatly knew what he was talking about and had figured something out in the female psyche.
Man He is the one of the founder of the GAME...
He found out women are lunatics who respond to abusive men. Groundbreaking...
HOLY FUCK 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m only 6 minutes in and this is BY FAR BEST, MOST ENTERTAINING TALKSHOW I’VE EVER WATCHED!!! Holy shit Ross Jeffries, you have some BALLS 🙌🙌😂
Well what are they gonna do to him, nag him to death? Not sleep with him? Actually some were probably turned on by his courage.
@@spacep0d Yea, fair. I guess though, if I were in that situation, I’d be scared of having the entire audience turn on me and just being the subject of ridicule for the next 30 mins….!
Ross Jeffries is still kicking ass. He's the best.
And I've known any person who loved his parents more than he does.
@john templeplate sure, in an angry sad frustrated red pilled guy kinda way.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
"Shame, guilt, insults and the need to be right"
Wow. Only discovered this video today. Everything he says is 100% TRUE.
This Ross is like the Steve Jobs of the puas
Damn you're right, I notice that.
HA
🤣🤣🤣🤣
True🤣
Ross basically was a student in late 80s of Bandler during one of Bandler's seminars who cocreated NLP in the middle of 70s and Jeffries wich is Ross focused NLP specifically for dating and flirting which what basically is about speed seduction a sum of verbal patterns and more importantly working principles that if applied efficiently in a social setting can make wonders into that situation
This is great. I love how Ross' frame doesn't buckle.
Masculinity frame and he is grounded
His physical frame is horrible though. With the slumping body and legs crossed, his body posture is feminine.
@@rickyticky3350 i reckon he cast and paid for most of the episode, the guy in the middle is wearing a dress. RJ's ad spots are on the ad break.
@@scottherf i doubt it, Ross wasnt financially well off at that point. Would have cost too much $$$'
@@scottherf there are 3 ad breaks and each one is for each man
Ross is the knight women deserve but dont need. Mel is the one they need but dont deservd.
Ross knows the game is to be sold and not told, but for the purposes of this show, he had to let them have it lmaooo
The three men here PERFECTLY represent all the archetypes of masculinity throughout history:
Bruce is owned by the system, Ross is working the system, and Mel has transcended the system. Actually Ross and Mel are two sides of the same coin, but they don't know it yet...in the case of Ross...he also must have transcended the system in order to work it, but he's come back to get his. Mel has also transcended the system but he's put himself in a place where he can operate independently of all systems, now that's some serious power there!
I have been looking for material that perfectly capture the state of things between the sexes and all the sides of this issue, this is it! It's amazing how much cultural insight you can get from this. Which reminds me of my motto: "we're so screwed!".
Very good insight young man!
you nailed it.
Thats so well put, respect from a mens rights activist!
I think you’re right but have different thoughts. The mra Mel did transcend in a sense. But what is the cost to him? He’s frustrated, bitter, angry all dedicated to a cause that hasn’t come to fruition ALL OF THESE YEARS. He has lost his vitality for something that never panned out. He might be right but it came at a very high cost to himself, so what’s the point? Ross to me isn’t completely right but he gets the girls (what he wants), keeps his values, and he looks happier than the mra. Plus he gets what the feminist man can’t. The feminist is whipped and serving a group of people who don’t even care about him. Do not serve people who don’t care whether you’re alive or not. The girls in the audience obviously don’t care about him at all-they probably care more about the mra than him- attention. Moral of the story it’s good to transcend, but don’t do so at the cost of yourself. If you do what’s the point of rising higher?
very good analysis. I would say Ross and Bruce are two sides of the same coin because both are behaving in a way to get attention from women. Mel is the one who has transcended because he doesn't rely on women.
The feminist on the right gets applause by the women like a zoo keeper does when he throws fish to a seal. Goes to show you the motivations of typical women and how *EASY* it is to stroke their vanity driven ego. It was never about equality but chiefly about their varying feelings.
mavis tweedy Who said here that men don't have feelings? Or are you just thinking with your feelings? ;)
it's a show
most women if you do those speed seduction patterns or hypnosis properly can't see what's happening since it is disguised as a normal convo with normal words the tone of voice and the topics you talk about affect the female psyche to spark that sexual feelings
for many women icecream is a pleasure or chocolate cake just by casually mentioning them into a long descriptive conversation verbal pattern its near the part of the brain or memory where sex is nearby
or a hot bath with vivid descriptions
or watching a sunset
or a back massage
you can talk about all these normal topics socially acceptable and get away with since the process will take care of itself in your favour she will be turned on even if not immediately for some it is delayed a couple of hours or days
women want these mental phantasies anyways they dream about these stories they want to live them
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
Did y’all notice how the women were fascinated by Ross, interested in his opinion and tried to convince him to “love women” because deep down, they knew he was speaking the truth and they knew that they were attracted to men like him. They were disgusted by the inc£l in the dress because he was emotional and throwing a tantrum. They didn’t pay attention to the $imp other than clapping for him ( “good boy-good boy”)🧒
good analysis
Right the MRA was really emotional. The feminist was literally asking for claps like a good boy.
@@AppleJacksCereal The only thing the MRA did wrong was caring too much about winning a losing battle. When you're a young man, you'll probably look up to Ross and when you're older, you'll probably realize that Mel is the one to admire of the 3... (Speaking for myself, anyways).
If you honestly believe the were romatically interested in Ross you know very little about Human beings in general
@@AJ-ht7ms oh trust me they were, even if they might claim or even believed otherwise. Women are very contradictory mentally. They say they’re attracted to something and then completely chase after the exact opposite of what they say. I’ve slept with too many girls after being purposely rude and obnoxious to them, at the same time I watched them relegate their nice friends ( who clearly had feelings for them) to the friend zone.
Almost 30 years later, Ross has proved over and over its true. As well as he shared to other men to do the same!
What did he proved? The reality is that Look matter 😆
@@learn1718The reality is that you didn't pay fucking attention, Ross said else if looks isn't good so you must increase the attitude that attracs them
The guy wore a skirt and they ask “doesn’t this invite harrassment?” Imagine asking a woman if her skirt “invites harrassment.” That’s *literally* what happens in this video.
It's laughable how women struggle with double standards. This is why they struggle with logic.
Exactly, that's the dictionary definition of victim blaming.
I can't believe this is from 1992. Mel is by far the most ahead of his time person on this panel. He's literally mgtow before it was even a vague concept without a name.
After watching a crowd of women punctuate their argument with a shaming practice I couldn't watch anymore. Switch the audience to men and the speakers to women and this would be a harassment case. It's disgusting.
And a second thought that I forgot in my frustration, and recall now that I have calmed down. What value was it to flash an add for a men's center, that aids men in bad situations, immediately after the entirely, female audience had just made trash of male honor? Seems counter productive.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
@@brianhoeksema22856:52 6:52
The man in the middle, Mel Feit, is so sharp. He doesn't miss a beat.
It's a pity that his talents was wasted on that crowd of hypocrites.
Canary in the coal mine. They had no response for what he was saying because they all knew it was the truth. They would rather argue with Ross then have to face Mel's truths.
Yeah mel knows the truth and disgusted by the hypocrisy.
@@Thor-Orion Ross is just a clown they could easily throw pies at. It's fun for them.
Mel is the grim reality that they don't even want to touch because it's too difficult.
whats his name ?
@@steevek2006 Mel Feit. He’s the man. One of my favorite old school MRA’s.
All the old ladies are loving this! 😂😂😂
I know lool, they cracked me up.
This guy is OG...he is the original PUA, grandmasterr! He was a PUA before it became cool to be a PUA. Respect
Isn't this the guy who wrote the very first pickup artist book? He literally coined the phrase "pickup artist". Now I feel like buying and reading his book.
@@simdhaliwal4260 People call it Speed Seduction instead of PUA
Go check out Patrice O'Neal
pua word was invented by Mystery
Ross is teaching NLP with his speed seduction he is an old venerable man today i don't think he still teaches seduction he retired kind of due to old age
The guy on the left seems like the red pill. The guy in the middle is like a mgtow/black pill. The guy on the right is like a blue pill (play into the system and you'll get rewarded). This was really interesting.
💯🎯 way back in 1992. And we're still here.
So blue pill is secretly red pill
@@Hunter-yy4es that isn't blue pill bruh
Blue pill is being the male best friend and self avowed male feminist because you think women will like you more by being a male ally. They will only tolerate you but won't actually find you attractive. The system doesn't reward you for playing into it, it surgically removes your masculinity.
@@Hunter-yy4es That's not the blue-pill, LMAO.
The only proof you need to know Ross has the power in that room: All questions are directed at him! xD
When Ross said I put women on a pedestal to look up their skirts that old lady was loving it! 😂😂😂😂😂. Ross is like if egon stopped being nice 😂😂😂😂😂
This is pure gold
This is one of the greatest videos I've seen. Mel is a genius, he speaks so well and thinks so quickly. Ross's outburst about the pedestal joke was fucking hilarious too.
Well, this is fair. 100% female-based audience. Very completely unbiased and not one-sided.
And it's not like women are fair-minded in the first place. It's not an audience, it's a herd.
Still took them on and proved their point lol
Ross was getting the most attention
They proved his point 😂
Mel Feit is like the kid shouting "the emperor is naked!"
Canary in the coal mine.
Look at the body language of Ross and the dude in the middle. They are leaning away from the nerd
I love it honestly. Mel is WAY more intelligent than that trained parrot with a phd. And even he is like "fuck I like Ross more than everyone else in this room combined."
This was very interesting to watch, because the comments we are getting today from women via 2016 HAS NOT CHANGED 1 BIT IN 1992.
That means women's answers has not changed or evolved in the slightest. Men are still if not more so, ignored today than as they were in the past. Which leads me to conclude one thing:
DO NOT CARE WHAT THEY SAY, WATCH WHAT THEY DO.
100 % percent right conclusion !
2018 here same shit hahaha
Brilliantly deducted Watson.
which is why these "incel" and "mgtow" movements are so flawed. if they tried to go PUA or at least tried to get better with women they'd learn this. Totally dead on comment! Also, a lot of things are cyclical. In 1992, 93, we were talking about "political correctness", Camille Paglia was saying much of the same shit Jordan Peterson says now (And there were a lot of differing cultural forces that are similar), etc
Like you see here how all the attention was on jeff. Its amazing
Informative, historical, and compelling...Thank you for taking the time to post these.
Crazy that at that point in time they were literally able to ban a PUA book lol
Ive made the mistake of verbalizing the attitude in the past..... I got so deep into game, I got overconfident and would start blabbing on about why what I did worked, etc..... These skills are for YOU to use as a man, women dont always need to know the WHY, of why theyre attracted to you....
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions
6:52 "Now doesn't that invite harassment?" - Careful, Sweetheart, you're starting to sound a helluva lot like a victim-blamer, and a rape apologiser.
Damn, you just look at that hair and that wardrobe. Not even a cross over from the end of the 80's era. That's how you know you're in the 90's. But wait a minute what about all those women who were writing all those articles on how to get men to do what you want. Even I've read those. Beauty tips, weight loss, how to drive your man wild and how to get them to do what you want.
19:32
This guy sums up his origin story in a few sentences. This is fucking art.
2021 yet nothing has changed. Those 2 men still spitting facts xD
this man was one of the precursors of what we know now as the art of picking-up girls. He is the real deal. Wish I had known him 20 years ago.
Not a single intelligent person in that audience.
ZootTuber They're all women, what do you expect? :P
That's okay. The dumber, the better. (And easier.)
@[BosS] HITMAN 20 she is a number 1 moron feminist
this was definitely entertaining, we need more of this
I’m 58 years old now and retired from the Army. My family has genetics that makes us age a lot slower than the average person in our ethnic group (Northern European) so we appear an average of 13 years younger, it’s nice now but when I was 20 years old it was annoying. About 10 years ago I noticed a couple young ladies flirting with me which stunned me and it was pretty obvious on what they wanted. Men today are in a bad position since they’ve been indoctrinated by society that it’s fine to be fat, lazy and basically useless. So that means the pool of potential husbands/mates for women is smaller but to be fair, women are in the same boat as men.
Once a man knows a couple ways on how women think, it makes things a lot easier. Women are motivated and stimulated by what they hear where men are stimulated by what we see. African Americans are very good at convincing women to sleep with them because the man doesn’t give up and he stays focused on his goal. If a man has a deeper voice and is able to orate with ease, women find that very attractive because she knows what his social standing will be and how productive his career will be. In my case, I served as an Infantryman for 26 years and women (especially female Soldiers) are attracted to Grunts like me because we have a very manly profession. When I would visit a girlfriend who lived in the barracks and was in the Army, I would be approached by women while waiting in the hallway, it got to the point where I had to go wait in the stairwell. Think about it, if we have two men of equal intelligence, looks and income, which man would the woman choose if one was an Infantryman and the other was a cook? God bless our cooks but it’s safe to say which way she’ll go. I had 25 girlfriends from age 19 to 25 and that’s just the ones I was intimate with. I somehow got lucky and met a 21 year old lady from Puerto Rico and was a virgin. I put a ring on her finger 5 months after meeting her, we’ve been married for 33 years now and we get along great. After a woman has around 5 failed relationships, her chances of being able to function as a wife drops greatly. I almost got snagged by a single mother….twice but I learned my lesson and avoided them big time. Years later a couple of my old girlfriends contacted me on Facebook and they apologized for declining to marry me, it shocked me since I wasn’t expecting that. One of them would have two failed marriages and no children and lives with her mother and works from home. I wouldn’t wish her plight on anyone but that’s the result of her thinking there will be something better around the corner but by the time she figures it out, it’s too late, she’s no longer a young and beautiful lady and no decent man wants an old woman when the man can find a woman 15-20 years younger than him if he wanted.
Excellent share. Thank you, echohunter. Question: if you were using a dating app back then, would the ladies swipe right or left on you?
@@0volts157 I have no clue, I’m just average but I know I’m not fugly.
I love this comment. Thank you for sharing.
I'm currently 36, have money, and own a home that will be paid off next year. No kids, never married, 6 foot tall, broad shoulders, popular guy, and I have a deep voice.
I no longer have any real desire to date near-infertile over the hill women, my age or older,💍anymore.
Like you said, I can go lower in age with the women I date. I can still have a happy and healthy family.
@@jesseforce9933 Hello Jesse, I’m trying to picture what demographic/ethnic group you’re in so I’m going with traditional American (Western European/Nordic) like myself. You’re in a great position and I can see that if a woman knew your holdings and financial position, she’ll fake it to get you to put a ring on her finger. I grew up in southern Oregon where it’s still 85% conservative due to the harsh winters and local economy. But I retired in San Antonio, TX in 2009 and I’ve seen tons of fat, low IQ and useless women who’re brainwashed in liberalism so if there were great ladies here, they’re long gone after the brainwashing. The good ones are equally frustrated about good men since the same indoctrination that destroys the women, affect men the same way. Going online to find someone is usually problematic since you don’t know if she’s being honest. And on top of that, most good women will already have a “fuck trophy” aka; child. And no man should be saddled to raise another man’s kid and women know this so they’ll hide that little detail until she decides to explain. It may sound crazy to you but what I found success in was my Puerto Rican wife, they don’t get the same indoctrination there and she was a virgin (I’m not lying, I basically had to get a box of crayolas and a Big Chief pad and draw the logistics involved in sex, lol.). We all look for a Diamond in the rough but it’s damn tough. There are some single women that’re worth your time but, you’ll always be facing a huge issue that most women do, they won’t let the new step father discipline the child as a father but she’ll happily let you babysit and do fun things with the kids but the moment you speak up about a shady new friend or dropping out of high school without consequences and she’ll attack you and threaten to leave/divorce. This is the norm with single mothers. I almost married a single mother and I dodged a huge bullet with that chick. And you have to watch out for some women that age rapidly and I mean RAPIDLY! A lot of women will look hot in their 20’s since they “bloomed” at a younger age due to her DNA but when they hit 35, oh god, who did I marry starts crossing your mind, my wife is still good looking and at 125lbs and also has slow aging DNA like me. But it really boils down to who you can see being a friend with for the rest of your life, what makes you smile when you’re around her, is she a self starter and takes on projects that she always does well and never quits? No smokers by the way, they rarely quit and if they do, the damage is already set in and she’ll have serious medical issues later on and not to mention what it does to their face, turns their skin into shoe leather. If time permits, go visit another small city that’s more rural and conservative than most and hit their county fair, other similar events, etc but avoid the bars/clubs. You’ll need to look for a lady in her early 20’s, no older than 25 and has a low body count of no more than 3-4. Finding a virgin at that age is near impossible today. If you’re of Hispanic decent, there’s some hot chicks in Mexico whose families held their Spanish bloodlines pure over the centuries so they appear white and it’ll kind of confuse you at first. There’s also a large group of Irish Mexicans that immigrated there in the early 1800’s as well as some Mormons (Mormons are nice but it’s a cult to be avoided at all costs). Maybe just take a month and go load up a camper or RV and go travel and explore areas you like and meat people, you’d be amazed at what you’ll learn and who you’ll meet. And always smile when you’re out and about, dress like a man, keep your hair well cut and beard under control, chicks focus on those things. And if you have difficulty approaching ladies, just use humor. Learn the body language women will display when they’re interested in you, they all do the same things, there’s videos on RUclips that can help you on that topic. When you go to a restaurant to eat alone, always bring a book or magazine to read as you wait since you may start to feel awkward as you wait for the food and women will pick that up. Women will often pretend to be talking on their cell phone if they don’t want to look or talk with you so keep that in mind, it’s kind of fun if they’re a liberal with orange hair, you can hurl hilarious insults at them and they’ll ignore it, lol.
I’ll stop for now but please ask any questions and I’ll do my best to help since a good man shouldn’t be alone if he doesn’t want to.
@@jesseforce9933The larger the age gap the higher the chance of divorce according to divorce statistics. Also the majority of women who are into dating men way older then themselves are usually in it for the money, so if you want to be used by a gold digger and then lose half your shit in the divorce go ahead. Not only that, if you keep waiting and getting older your sperm isn't going to be as healthy which can lead to complications in your children. Sperm banks don't take guys over 35 for that reason. Stop thinking you have a lot of time because you are a guy, it won't work out well.
6:50 "We feel harassed every day" "Now stand up... (women can't hold in laughs) Doesn't that invite harassment?"
You heard it here first, folks.
This video aged well
Wow, the woman saw how the man was dressed and asked him if it didn't invite harassment?
You...you mean, a WOMAN, blamed a victim of harassment, because of what he was wearing?!
I thought only men did that.
Well, luckily we live in a much more civilized time.
heh
yeah i love the hypocrisy women are always like are you saying that because i dressed this way i am asking for it and then when the guy wears a skirt they say that he is asking for harassment wow just wow and the worst part is they don't see the irony in that
***** Hey dipshit you just watched a show with an audience of 100% women harassing this guy for what he was wearing. I say again WOMEN harassing him for what he is wearing.
Its funny how women complain of such harassment and shaming, when most is done by other women.
I like how the women boo the pua put applaud the femtard, but i,ll bet its the pua that has the most luck with women. Women are driven by emotion, they want the bad guy, they just want him to be nice with them, even better if she can claim she 'changed him'
***** Your 2nd and 3rd (and probably 4th) paragraphs are very true.
I don't need to repeat them, but what you stated has been backed up and verified by numerous social and anthropological studies.
Regarding your 4th paragraph (in regards to "Felisha"...is that her name?), without knowing her, I'm still about 99.5% sure that's an accurate assessment of her nature and belief system.
Yeah... "what were you wearing"... on the night you got sexually harrassed.
this is way better than the podcast format of today..
This is an interesting debate where three men with different views are able to get along in a civil manner. The male feminists got all the applause for pandering to women but he never received a compliment. The MRA received ridiculed and disdain for expressing men's issues and not abiding to the society's gender norms by wearing a skirt. The PUA was obnoxious and controversial but he ending up getting more attention from the audience than the other two, even thought it wasn't positive.
"No such thing as bad publicity!"
The guy on the right does not possess a set of nuts.
+numernine9 ha ha ha
+sidesplitters He probably wears lingerie under his suit.
+sidesplitters He probably wears lingerie under his suit.
+TheTerminatorevo ha ha ha - probably right ;)
The dude in the middle was wearing a dress, but it's the guy on the right who's a pussy.
,"Although I've been with someone I've loved for a long time, me" Priceless
2:04 the "hanging balls" comment completely went over everyone's head 😂
Ross is right. Women Friendzone 'good/ nice' guys. Been like that forever.
Ross: I got 99 problems but a bitch aint one!
lol some of the women there are getting turned on
Ross = Pickup Artist
Mel = MGTOW
Bruce = Nice Guy
It's amazing, women's reaction over a societal analysis of men and women relationships has been, is, and will always be " you're sad, you're single, you're hurt " 😆
What's crazy is they didn't even talk to the guy on the right, which just reinforces Ross Jeffries view that nice guys don't get as far with most women.
Ross Jefries is a BOSS
"I'm booked up for 1993"- Ross Jeffries
"He says women would be better off if only women listen to what he has to say." The response to that was a big applause. The response to him actually talking was crickets.
This looks like a very exaggerated reaction of most males frustrated with dating women. From left to right:
The PUA, the MGTOW, and the Chode
never heard the term "chode"
Believe it or not, Ross Jeffreys got allot of girls back in the day!
The domineering masculine black chicks show why most men don't like that kind of woman, men want a woman that can argue without yelling at the top of her voice and trying to be dominant over the man. And women don't want a soft submissive man, Ross was 100 percent right.
top kek hahaha
but yet Ross himself rebelled against the emphasis on "Alpha Males" in the PUA scene later in his career, interestingly enough. He just didn't want his followers to be pushovers which were much of his clientele
Nailed it.
This episode is fucking classic for this day and age! 🤣
My thoughts exactly
society needs more people like Ross
Saw this one a few years ago. Just remains pure gold!
A PUA and MRA just dropping truthbombs, and the contrast between those 2 on one hand, and the male feminist on the other, really tops it off!
The feminist guy is basically another woman. Probably a lesbian.
The young guy wirth glasses is ROSS JEFFRIES - american jewish man who is the god father of seduction and flirting movement for men
from which all the other nameless and online marketers worldwide have stolen his technology and rebranded it as their own or watered it down
He is old now
You can find him on youtube as well has youtube channel www.youtube.com/@speedseduction
I applied his Speed seduction mostly online in dating and women start to behave and write and act differently after applying his NLP(neuro linguistic programming) based verbal patterns and process language instead of how it did it only with content and logic and no emotions