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Mars's atmosphere is same as vacum so it wouldnt be wrong to say it doesnt have it. All it has is visual u have red skies and dust storms but surface conditions are same as the moon which doesnt have an atmosphere
Meet Çubukcu Having an atmosphere, even a thin one, means that it is not a vacuum and has very different properties than one, so it would be wrong to say that mars does not have an atmosphere.
I very well know that moon has exosphere but almost every big object in space has it.And exosphere is about same as empty space thats why moon is inside earth's exosphere
@@birdy4life32 we are much less barbaric back then, we have become far more civilized. russia vs usa is a war no one wants to happen. but we know that it will never happen
Hydropower can be overpowered as I didn't see anyone bringing this up : If your generator coils and magnets are immersed in liquid methane, they could becaome almost superconductive and create huge ammounts of power
On Titan we can wear jump suits with removable weights that wrap around the neck waist wrists and ankles with magnetic clips. This will counteract the weaker gravity on Titan, Mars, as well as the Earth's moon. For the limited light and heat on Titan, we can have a ring of fusion powered satellites that orbit Titan (or even Mars for that matter) radiating light and heat down on the moon Titan (once fusion power is perfected).
Unfortunately, that wouldn't work very well. Every bone is slowly decayed under lower gravity. We might need rotating habitats. I do agree with the fusion satellites though. Putting one in the right distance in orbit can give it a day-night cycle.
Personally, I think Ceres is a better option than Mars since Mars offers nothing more than issues and problems. Titan though, could be very interesting as well. The abundance of energy sources also make it very viable.
sam569 it will be about a billion years before that’s even a factor so I don’t think we really need to worry about that yet. Long term, if we even last that long as a species, yes we should move away, but there is no need to do that for the next billion years or so.
The atmosphere of Mars is the layer of gases surrounding Mars. It is primarily composed of carbon dioxide (95%), molecular nitrogen (2.8%), and argon (2%).It also contains trace levels of water vapor, oxygen, carbon monoxide, hydrogen, and noble gases.
Yep, Titan is more habitable and earth-like than Mars. But in terms of proximity, we all know that Mars is nearer to Earth....let's say accessibility vs habitability.
Here are some fun possibilities on the moon of Titan. 1. Having large air ships floating in the atmosphere the size of ocean liners with hydrogen as a lifting gas because no oxygen is in the atmosphere. Thick atmosphere and low gravity will make these ships capable of carrying several times more than possible on Earth. 2. Low terminal velocity will mean that people can jump out of any aircraft at extremely high altitudes with only a wingsuit and no parachute but still be able to fly a long-distance and land without injury. In fact it's likely a person could jump out of an airplane on Titan with no parachute and land on their feet without breaking bones. 3. The presence of methane in the atmosphere means internal combustion engines might be able to be used carrying oxygen tanks instead of fuel tanks. 3. Aircraft on Titan could have a much larger lifting potential than on Earth, meaning that they could be absolutely huge, but still not need the same Wing size as on Earth. 4. Thick atmosphere and low gravity create the possibility of human-powered flight. Such as, pedal-powered personal airplanes, or Wings strapped to the arms, allowing someone to Fly Like a Bird. 4. An economy with nuclear-powered electricity, could be used to meltwater and split it into its component parts. This would allow hydrogen and oxygen Rockets to be launched off the surface, and hydrogen carrying aircraft and vehicles which burned the atmospheric methane in an engine.
I think Titan is a great candidate for human colonisation, I have a few ideas on how to warm the place up, but at the same time I would like us to colonize Pluto and Sharon but first we need to learn from the Moon and Mars before we go much much further away from Earth, just wish we could do things much faster to spread out into the Cosmos for humanity's safety in numbers.
Yes but it has to be thicker in order to be more providing on air and protection against solar radiation. We just need to find a way to thicken the Martian atmosphere and protect the atmosphere from solar winds.
@@i_ben-e-dict211b2 Mars' atmosphere is 0.6% as dense as earth's, so little you can mostly ignore it. But most moons usually only a few atoms per sq cm. Less than low earth orbit.
Thanks. I think that the problems associated with zero-G on the human body are quite separate from mere lower gravity conditions dirtside on a planet or moon. First, exercise would clearly be much more effective in low gravity than zero-G. You don't need to do highly involved, long term studies to know this. Second, dirtside on Titan (as an example), the suits we would have to wear outdoors could be specially tailored with extra weights, to get each person up to maybe 50 - 60% of their Earth weight, and indoors people could wear wrist & ankle weights and such. I don't think it would be a major problem. tavi.
True. But using regular fuel would be redundant compared to having more stronger space engines like ion drives etc that's more efficient, faster and last longer especially being powered by nuclear reactors. The hydrocarbons will be better used as plastics building material etc and fertilizer.
Titans Lakes are mostly methane okay get over it.. it's the type of water that we could purify really really hard to drink. Granted another moon in the area of Jupiter would have been a lot better seeing as to how they're just salt water. But I can see why Titan is a huge sell it would be endlessly useful when it comes to resources. Though the other Moon I'm thinking of has more salt water than all the oceans of Earth.
One day I had a dream about living in Titan. I assume it was Titan, it was dark and I was surrounded by a river, lakes, or sea made by gas in liquid form. There were people living like on earth but the life in Titan did not look to me extraordinarily good
There's going to be trade-offs when settling on other worlds. Mars has resources like water that we can use, there's also a day night cycle roughly the same length as Earth's, but there's kilotons of radiation and the atmospheric pressure is so low that spacesuits and pressurized habitats would be required. At around the 50km level, Venus has a survivable atmospheric pressure and minimal radiation to boot, but everything would have to be imported from elsewhere, this includes water, you can't make a settlement self sufficient if even the basics can't be made there. Luna has the proximity advantage, which means shipments would be quick and communication with Earth would come with minimal lag, but there's no atmosphere and the radiation is such that lunar colonists would probably have to live in underground bunkers, not to mention the low gravity may not be enough for health. Even an Earth-like exoplanet may not be as good as Earth, the gravity may be too strong, the atmospheric conditions may be wrong, etc.
@pepsolman: A close analog to earth 200 to 300 million years ago, however, alien microbes may pose serious problems. Even if life on another planet is based on RNA and DNA the genetic code would almost certainly be different and either the alien or our microbes would likely dominate.
@sam: As Covid 19 vividly exemplifies, it is easier to deal with hostile alien megafauna than microbes . You must have oxygen producing life to have a breathable atmosphere. If we attempt to colonise another planet which has life then we are going to disrupt it and change the course of evolution on that planet.
@sam569 I agree about Proxima Centauri B. The planet is likely tidally locked around a star that is subject to severe flares. As a species we need a purpose and conquering the galaxy would keep us busy for a long time.
So, let me see if I get this straight: Titan has no oxygen and its average temperature is -180C (-292F), yet it's somehow an excellent option for a planet we can live on? I was under the impression that just like me, other human beings also rely on oxygen to sustain life... "I’m just a big fan of oxygen. It’s my second favorite thing to inhale." (Bill Maher)
These are always so amusing! We can't even get to the moon and he's talking of colonizing Titan!! We won't be colonizing the moon or Mars because of the reduced gravity! There may be bases, but no real long term permanent self sustaining colonies.
Exactly everything would need constant resupply from earth. Too costly and inefficient. Now, if they could become partially self sufficient that could be possible. Just what I think here! Not educated!
The technology we have now is not enough to get us to titan or mars and live there but scientist are trying to develop new and better technology to get us there in the future just like when no one thought that we wont get to the moon but guess what we did. What im trying to say is we will get there in near future ( sorry for my bad english) if you dont believe me just look around and see how much the world changed in only 10 years
Surely we could wear tungsten weights built into our clothes to simulate earths gravity on these moons..But I've never heard anyone mention this..am I wrong?
Didn’t it take like 27 years for the probe to get close enough to take a picture of Titan, that means it would take just as king for people to get there, and then we need enough people to colonise Titan, build, homes and much more, unles we invent hyper speed travel, this would be too difficult
It would literally take hundreds of years just to begin terraforming it. It’s possible. If humanity and our technology exists long enough, it will happen. No reason we shouldn’t try to terraform Mars first.
hopefully they can get people living on titan like 2050 or sooner as backup in case something happens to earth,titan is better than mars to live on, good video.
Thing with the microgravity is; Surely some gravity is better than none? The Soviets theorised that a human cold live no longer than 14 days in space bc the lack of gravity's would destroy the cardio-vascular system. Now we know the body is more. Durage than that. Maybe the same for low gravity celestial bodies?
I think the idea is amazing but it will a long time before we have the technology to do it on a big scale. If we can do that though we should be able to live on any part of the Earth too comfortably in dome cities as well.
I would prefer to colonize Hyperion instead. We would dock the space ship to the moon and dig in. The artificial gravity of the spaceship would continue to work and we would be shielded from ionizing radiation. Hyperion contains all the material to build new habitates and expand the colony. But also mining of rocket fuel is simple and it requires mimimal impulse to start from Hyperion. The moon could become the hub for several colonies. Within
I don't think that there can be a ''new earth'' anywhere in the solar system. The best we can hope for, is to explore and EXPLOIT the resources of the planets and/or their satellites someday, so that we can solve energy problems and mineral shorteges on Earth. Tapping the planets, in other words.
Amusing: growing food at minus 170ºC with only 1/100th the sunlight. Watering the lettuce with water that is frozen to harder than steel and which at the low vapour pressure will all quickly sublimate, dehydrating the plants. How could you stand on the surface? For as you remain in any one spot for a few moments, the ground under your feet would start to boil away and it would be like staying on top of a fizzy waterspout, you'd lose your footing and start rolling along the surface driven by mini geysers of boiling gas as you body contacts the simmering surface. Building a habitat on the surface would destroy the surface under the habitat and destabilise the habitat as the out flow of heat energy would melt and sublimate/boil away the surface around the colony. The only way to build it would be to dig down into the mineral bedrock, past the surface rocks which are just water ice, and build far below the surface. Other than vast bounties of (basically useless to modern needs-costs in the millions of $/gallon to bring it to your local gas station) hydrocarbons, enough to make OPEC look like a summer lemonade stand, why ever would we want to go there? There is NOTHING there that we need. Anything we could do there we could do in geo-sync orbit around Earth with just a little asteroid mining/capture for supplies/habitats a lot more easily. Could we build a research colony on Titan that would be stable and not destroy the 'ecology'-yes. Could such a colony ever be self-sustaining or profitable? With an as yet unforeseeable enduring raison d'être, possibly. Is it likely that we will? Probably not.
Hi John!! First of all, thank you for the Curiosity that brought you here!! It is very well appreciated. To your questions, yes, Titan spins/rotates let's take a look to Titan's Rotation: "Titan takes 15 days and 22 hours to complete a full orbit of Saturn. Titan is also tidally locked in synchronous rotation with Saturn, meaning that, like Earth’s Moon, Titan always shows the same face to the planet as it orbits. Saturn takes about 29 Earth years to orbit the Sun (a Saturnian year), and Saturn’s axis of rotation is tilted like Earth’s, resulting in seasons." To know more you can check out here: solarsystem.nasa.gov/moons/saturn-moons/titan/in-depth/#orbit_and_rotation
Yiu are dreaming! There will be no long term colony on the moon or Mars! PEOPLE CAN NOT LIVE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME IN A MICRO GRAVITY OR NO GRAVITY ENVIRONMENT!!
Been seeing a lot of these colonizing titan videos and articles. I notice they all sidestep one really big problem - it's - 149 degrees celsius or colder. You would freeze solid on titan. Your suit will be so hot you would just melt the ground under you and sink.
Could we heat up Titan by releasing co2 into the atmosphere like here on earth? Maybe by doing that, we could make it warmer and viable to walk around on with just a mask or helmet, as there'd be no harmful radiation? Maybe we could release enough oxygen to make it breathable too, as there is oxygen already in the Titan atmosphere.
It's actually not that much colder than living in the Arctic dangerous yeah but not totally uinhabitable. Just get some good winter clothes and a decent mask. You'd Survive the service just fine... just remember a good oxygen tank too or a decent rebreather.
At the beginning when he was like "for why it would work, and why we would want to go there" i was already like.. "I HEARD WE CAN FLY THERE SO LIKE HELL YEAH LETS GO"
Titan is a valuable option to Colonize but so is the Jovian moon ‘Clysto”. The Jovian moon Calyto has less harmful radiation problems it’s closer to Earth , it has mountains of Ice and seas of Butane. We could mine the ice melt it with butane and pressure Mr stuff with seas of Tholians (gyro carbons). We really need rovers exploring The larger 6 of the Jovian moons and Titan (a moon of Saturn).
did he actually say Mars doesn't have an atmosphere? Thats not true! It has a thin atmosphere and also, the reason there is a lot of radiation on Mars is the lack of an electromagnetic field.
It could transform into a living moon in 5 billion years time when sun becomes a red giant and radiate enough heat to raise the temperature on Titan surface to become Earth like.
What percentage of each element is the atmosphere comprised of? And what additional elements are in the atmosphere of Titan? Ammonium at any sort of level would most likely be deadly for any Earth bound being bar extremophiles. We would have to completely change the chemical make up of the atmosphere to make Titan livable. Not to mention the infeasability of this due to the low gravity of Titan. How does one make the atmosphere into lighter elements while keeping a heavy enough atmosphere to stay around the moon with less than 40% of the gravity of Earth? If we were to use the huge amounts of hydrocarbons to fuel industry in space or as a refuel station for outer solar system missions I could understand an outpost or five. But the amount of work Titan would need to be considered another Earth is energy best spent on a planet with gravity similar to our own.
We understand and share your concerns! There are challenging events for such a big change! About the atmosphere, here you go some facts & figures: Titan is unique in being the only moon with a thick atmosphere. Titan's atmosphere is mostly nitrogen (about 95 percent) and methane (about 5 percent), with small amounts of other carbon-rich compounds. High in Titan’s atmosphere, methane and nitrogen molecules are split apart by the Sun's ultraviolet light and by high-energy particles accelerated in Saturn's magnetic field. The pieces of these molecules recombine to form a variety of organic chemicals (substances that contain carbon and hydrogen), and often include nitrogen, oxygen and other elements important to life on Earth If you want to know more take a look here: solarsystem.nasa.gov/moons/saturn-moons/titan/in-depth/#atmosphere Thank you for watching!!
@@insanecuriosity2682 Thanks for the reply, but my third question still stands. If the particles are now lighter thanks to both the Sun and Saturns' energy and our need to change the composition of the atmosphere to make it breathable (your post almost makes me think you believe that the natural break down of the atmosphere would lead to life preserving atmosphere). Even if breathable to us, would the atmosphere not then be subject to being ripped off it slowly by Saturns huge gravity, magnetic field and radiation belts? In short, isn't the reason Titan can keep such a thick atmosphere in such an environment (such as being in orbit around a gas giant), because the chemical make up of the atmosphere is so dense and not solely because of gravity? And thus would changing its composition lead to a bleed off effect to Saturns' overwhelming mass/energy.
I can imagine people living in different planets and helping each other to find the end of the universe millions of years from now. 😀😃😄. That would be cool.
If we can do, then lets to it! I'm ready for a new start! I can imagine the jobs needed for this! Lust gotta figure what kind of money we be using earth or something new when we get to our new home?
Im just wondering what difference it makes. It is going to be at the very least, several decaids to do anything more than build a moon base, let alone reach another planet, land on it, and take a a few snapshots. Even if it were possible after several decaids, it would take several more decaids to make it functionally livable. If you are going to spend that kind of time, money and effort to get to a planet to live on, I think the effort and money might be better spent on improving the one we are already on. Dreams are nice, everyone should have some. As technology advances, maybe we can get closer to the dream, but eventually, reality needs kick in. Not one planet we know of supports human life. That by itself is going to be an extremely expensive, and time consuming effort to overcome. That assumes it can ever be done. Plausibility and possibility are two very different things.
I think the "Insane" part of Insane Curiosity is very apt. BTW: Why do you repeatedly state that Mars doesn't have an atmosphere? It might be very thin, but it's still there!
Bringing hydrocarbons from Titan to Earth would require a LOT of energy. Do the hydrocarbons have enough energy density to justify shipping appreciable amounts across the solar system?
Hi Aaron, thank you for watching! Regarding your question: "Reflectance spectroscopy is an important tool to acquire information on the composition of the surface of the investigated objects. The solar light reflected from the investigated surfaces carries information on the mineralogy of the observed soils and rocks on those bodies." If you want to know more about the process take a look here: www.mps.mpg.de/planetary-science/moon-surface#:~:text=Reflectance%20spectroscopy%20is%20an%20important,surface%20of%20the%20investigated%20objects.&text=more%5D-,Principle%20of%20planetary%20reflectance%20spectroscopy%3A%20Solar%20light%20is%20reflected%20from,instrument%20orbiting%20a%20planetary%20body.
Titan's lower atmosphere is primarily composed of nitrogen (94.2%), methane (5.65%), and hydrogen (0.099%). One breath and you're dead. Surface temperature is -178C and methane turns liquid at -149C so that one breath will freeze you solid as well.
Hey Ken! Completely valid input, the atmosphere would definitely be challenging, as we said in the video would be possible only if right steps are taken! Thank you for watching, hope you keep being Curious with us! :)
It would be wonderful if we could colonize Titan somedayin the future, to live or travel to a destination like this moon so far away from our home-planet! Nervertheless, living there seems to be for many humans actually a little bit weird. Let's explore other destinations. The Space is very big and we humans should at least explore some areas of it.
Hi Thomas! Thank you for stopping by and letting us know what you are thinking! We definitely believe that our way of living would have to be redifined completely as you mention! We agree on you on being Space and Universe an amazing place to explore beyond and beyond! Happy to share with people as passionate as us! Hope to see you soon!
Titan is way too cold. Now, get an extremely advanced civilization to tow it in between mars and earth, and you’ll have that sweet spot for the sun to warm it up.
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Just imagine being on Titan and looking up to the night sky and seeing Saturn instead of our moon
Lul I bet the sun will be covered by Saturn half the year
That would be something
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How big in the sky would it be I wonder..
Could you even see the sky through the atmosphere?
Mars does have an atmosphere, just not a very dense one.
Yep.. And its slowly shrinking as mars is losing it into space with no protective ozone layers etc..
Mars's atmosphere is same as vacum so it wouldnt be wrong to say it doesnt have it.
All it has is visual u have red skies and dust storms but surface conditions are same as the moon which doesnt have an atmosphere
Meet Çubukcu Having an atmosphere, even a thin one, means that it is not a vacuum and has very different properties than one, so it would be wrong to say that mars does not have an atmosphere.
@@mertc8050 you'd be surprised to learn that our Moon also has an atmosphere
I very well know that moon has exosphere but almost every big object in space has it.And exosphere is about same as empty space thats why moon is inside earth's exosphere
Never thought about Titan as a colonization before, sounds do able and it would be cool to look up
at Saturn.
Titan would be a great candidate to terraform and maintain until ready when the sun turns into a red giant and the habitable zone changes.
the only problem is we won't be around by then beacuse humans will destroy each others with the nukes first ...I mean just look at human history
@@birdy4life32
we are much less barbaric back then, we have become far more civilized. russia vs usa is a war no one wants to happen. but we know that it will never happen
@@rexjs1124 you are talking right opposite
NASA: It's 200 degres belowe zero there.
The Norwegian: Don't forget my shorts.
I see Mars as a practice run to Titan.
It's like comparing a mushroom to an orange
@Isaiah _ yes
And moon is practice for the mars
And Mars was a practice for Earth
Titan is Starship's wet dream
Mars has an atmosphere with dust storms, seasons and everything. It is just thin for us to breath and the lower pressure is fatal without equipment.
All I know is that trying to colonize Titan will bring Thanos’s wraith upon us.
Maybe you should live in a world of reality instead of movie fiction!
I'll call san Goku to save us😄lol
@@nightlightabcd you must be fun at parties.
@@nightlightabcd stfu kid
@@nightlightabcd maybe you should try to have some fun
titan is my favourite moon it has clouds!!
My favorite moon is the moon
I like titan too
i like mercury its the suns moon
Ps4 Xbox one I like earth it’s sun‘s cooler moon
@@sparkxz8946 Yes
Hydropower can be overpowered as I didn't see anyone bringing this up :
If your generator coils and magnets are immersed in liquid methane, they could becaome almost superconductive and create huge ammounts of power
On Titan we can wear jump suits with removable weights that wrap around the neck waist wrists and ankles with magnetic clips. This will counteract the weaker gravity on Titan, Mars, as well as the Earth's moon. For the limited light and heat on Titan, we can have a ring of fusion powered satellites that orbit Titan (or even Mars for that matter) radiating light and heat down on the moon Titan (once fusion power is perfected).
Unfortunately, that wouldn't work very well. Every bone is slowly decayed under lower gravity. We might need rotating habitats.
I do agree with the fusion satellites though. Putting one in the right distance in orbit can give it a day-night cycle.
Personally, I think Ceres is a better option than Mars since Mars offers nothing more than issues and problems. Titan though, could be very interesting as well. The abundance of energy sources also make it very viable.
Titan is a candidate for colonization, probably after the Mars revolution.
Venus first 😁
The Hamilton Show tell me a way to even land on Venus. Without getting destroyed by the massive atmosphere
SparkXZ you don’t land on Venus you build cities in the skies.
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sam569 it will be about a billion years before that’s even a factor so I don’t think we really need to worry about that yet. Long term, if we even last that long as a species, yes we should move away, but there is no need to do that for the next billion years or so.
The atmosphere of Mars is the layer of gases surrounding Mars. It is primarily composed of carbon dioxide (95%), molecular nitrogen (2.8%), and argon (2%).It also contains trace levels of water vapor, oxygen, carbon monoxide, hydrogen, and noble gases.
Yep, Titan is more habitable and earth-like than Mars. But in terms of proximity, we all know that Mars is nearer to Earth....let's say accessibility vs habitability.
Here are some fun possibilities on the moon of Titan.
1. Having large air ships floating in the atmosphere the size of ocean liners with hydrogen as a lifting gas because no oxygen is in the atmosphere. Thick atmosphere and low gravity will make these ships capable of carrying several times more than possible on Earth.
2. Low terminal velocity will mean that people can jump out of any aircraft at extremely high altitudes with only a wingsuit and no parachute but still be able to fly a long-distance and land without injury. In fact it's likely a person could jump out of an airplane on Titan with no parachute and land on their feet without breaking bones.
3. The presence of methane in the atmosphere means internal combustion engines might be able to be used carrying oxygen tanks instead of fuel tanks.
3. Aircraft on Titan could have a much larger lifting potential than on Earth, meaning that they could be absolutely huge, but still not need the same Wing size as on Earth.
4. Thick atmosphere and low gravity create the possibility of human-powered flight. Such as, pedal-powered personal airplanes, or Wings strapped to the arms, allowing someone to Fly Like a Bird.
4. An economy with nuclear-powered electricity, could be used to meltwater and split it into its component parts. This would allow hydrogen and oxygen Rockets to be launched off the surface, and hydrogen carrying aircraft and vehicles which burned the atmospheric methane in an engine.
Air ships don't profit from the lower gravity.
I think Titan is a great candidate for human colonisation, I have a few ideas on how to warm the place up, but at the same time I would like us to colonize Pluto and Sharon but first we need to learn from the Moon and Mars before we go much much further away from Earth, just wish we could do things much faster to spread out into the Cosmos for humanity's safety in numbers.
And more importantly, so we could be alive to see them
Umm I thought it was already proven that Mars does have an atmosphere, it's just extremely thin?
And all the other moons constantly in the sky. I appreciate the way you think
Yes but it has to be thicker in order to be more providing on air and protection against solar radiation. We just need to find a way to thicken the Martian atmosphere and protect the atmosphere from solar winds.
@@i_ben-e-dict211b2 Mars' atmosphere is 0.6% as dense as earth's, so little you can mostly ignore it. But most moons usually only a few atoms per sq cm. Less than low earth orbit.
Thanks. I think that the problems associated with zero-G on the human body are quite separate from mere lower gravity conditions dirtside on a planet or moon. First, exercise would clearly be much more effective in low gravity than zero-G. You don't need to do highly involved, long term studies to know this. Second, dirtside on Titan (as an example), the suits we would have to wear outdoors could be specially tailored with extra weights, to get each person up to maybe 50 - 60% of their Earth weight, and indoors people could wear wrist & ankle weights and such. I don't think it would be a major problem. tavi.
So basically it's a fuel station.
A fuel station for another planet farther away in the solar system
True. But using regular fuel would be redundant compared to having more stronger space engines like ion drives etc that's more efficient, faster and last longer especially being powered by nuclear reactors. The hydrocarbons will be better used as plastics building material etc and fertilizer.
Need a rover like in Mars to study more on Titan.
“Titan has seas of hydrocarbons (oil)”
US: hold my burger
Titans Lakes are mostly methane okay get over it.. it's the type of water that we could purify really really hard to drink. Granted another moon in the area of Jupiter would have been a lot better seeing as to how they're just salt water. But I can see why Titan is a huge sell it would be endlessly useful when it comes to resources. Though the other Moon I'm thinking of has more salt water than all the oceans of Earth.
One day I had a dream about living in Titan. I assume it was Titan, it was dark and I was surrounded by a river, lakes, or sea made by gas in liquid form. There were people living like on earth but the life in Titan did not look to me extraordinarily good
It was habitable?
Methane lakes + oxygen + lighting strike = no more Titan
You have a lighter?
Not hot enough I don't think and the pressure will change the nature of 'explosions'
The city looks so pretty do you wanna burn it with me?
This channel is underrated!! Keep it up, very interesting!
thank you so much Jeperz
Let's see if we can make it to Mars first before thinking about Titan.
One is closer and one is more habitable/suitable. Which one should be first?
We can make it to Mars. It's just keeping the crew alive for the whole mission that's the problem.
I think starship will be capable for reaching both.. Funny part is starship uses methane as fuel which Titan has a lot ..
@@999bappi so titan is rich fuel for starship
@@999bappi You have to consider time tho. Its 7 months from earth to mars, earth to titan would be way longer, even mars to titan is very long
Nothing is a “perfect solution to colonize another planet” besides a duplicate of earth.
There's going to be trade-offs when settling on other worlds. Mars has resources like water that we can use, there's also a day night cycle roughly the same length as Earth's, but there's kilotons of radiation and the atmospheric pressure is so low that spacesuits and pressurized habitats would be required. At around the 50km level, Venus has a survivable atmospheric pressure and minimal radiation to boot, but everything would have to be imported from elsewhere, this includes water, you can't make a settlement self sufficient if even the basics can't be made there. Luna has the proximity advantage, which means shipments would be quick and communication with Earth would come with minimal lag, but there's no atmosphere and the radiation is such that lunar colonists would probably have to live in underground bunkers, not to mention the low gravity may not be enough for health.
Even an Earth-like exoplanet may not be as good as Earth, the gravity may be too strong, the atmospheric conditions may be wrong, etc.
@pepsolman: A close analog to earth 200 to 300 million years ago,
however, alien microbes may pose serious problems. Even if life on another planet is based on RNA and DNA the genetic code would almost certainly be different and either the alien or our microbes would likely dominate.
@sam: As Covid 19 vividly exemplifies, it is easier to deal with hostile alien megafauna than microbes . You must have oxygen producing life to have a breathable atmosphere. If we attempt to colonise another planet which has life then we are going to disrupt it and change the course of evolution on that planet.
@sam569 I agree about Proxima Centauri B. The planet is likely tidally locked around a star that is subject to severe flares.
As a species we need a purpose and conquering the galaxy would keep us busy for a long time.
@sam569 shorter than 100 years when comes to Titan. For the atmosphere thickness there is very abundant and a bit more thicker than Earth's.
I like Titan, I always had a spooky feeling about Mars.
That will be something to plan on.
So, let me see if I get this straight: Titan has no oxygen and its average temperature is -180C (-292F), yet it's somehow an excellent option for a planet we can live on? I was under the impression that just like me, other human beings also rely on oxygen to sustain life...
"I’m just a big fan of oxygen. It’s my second favorite thing to inhale." (Bill Maher)
The ground is made of water ice(H2O), and therefore oxygen to breathe.
@@Orion2525 no there isn't dumbby
We can make it into a watery planet by melting the ice and then we can make artificial land on it or build above sea cities!
@@Azamat421 ya it is!
@@Orion2525 Water (H2O) is NOT oxygen (O2). You can make oxygen out of water, but water isn't oxygen.
Starting an entire new grid. With today's technology. Would be very interesting to see. A whole grid, being green, from the start. 😊
I can see us terraforming them both (Mars and Titan) at the same time with Titan becoming habitable first. Thanks.
These are always so amusing! We can't even get to the moon and he's talking of colonizing Titan!! We won't be colonizing the moon or Mars because of the reduced gravity! There may be bases, but no real long term permanent self sustaining colonies.
You right, we have to test reduced gravity at our biology before we even go to Mars ( or Titan), and the easiest place to do that is on our moon.
Exactly everything would need constant resupply from earth. Too costly and inefficient. Now, if they could become partially self sufficient that could be possible. Just what I think here! Not educated!
The technology we have now is not enough to get us to titan or mars and live there but scientist are trying to develop new and better technology to get us there in the future just like when no one thought that we wont get to the moon but guess what we did. What im trying to say is we will get there in near future ( sorry for my bad english) if you dont believe me just look around and see how much the world changed in only 10 years
The Earth is just a perfect place to live in.
Surely we could wear tungsten weights built into our clothes to simulate earths gravity on these moons..But I've never heard anyone mention this..am I wrong?
would it still be terraforming on titan? or titanforming?
Totally love the idea of terraforming Titan! Best video!
Didn’t it take like 27 years for the probe to get close enough to take a picture of Titan, that means it would take just as king for people to get there, and then we need enough people to colonise Titan, build, homes and much more, unles we invent hyper speed travel, this would be too difficult
It would literally take hundreds of years just to begin terraforming it. It’s possible. If humanity and our technology exists long enough, it will happen. No reason we shouldn’t try to terraform Mars first.
hopefully they can get people living on titan like 2050 or sooner as backup in case something happens to earth,titan is better than mars to live on, good video.
ando Ew it is. How do you know
So living in bubbles. Is a great life. Way better than Earth. Lol
there's our moon either instead of Saturn's moon titan, both are better than mars as back up incase something like ww3 happens.
Titan being so distance from the sun will be as cold as hell
@@luismatthew5875 so is Mars with avg tempetures of -69 degrees Fahrenheit
That one guy in spongebob perfectly described what humans need "food, water, atmosphere"
Thing with the microgravity is;
Surely some gravity is better than none?
The Soviets theorised that a human cold live no longer than 14 days in space bc the lack of gravity's would destroy the cardio-vascular system.
Now we know the body is more. Durage than that.
Maybe the same for low gravity celestial bodies?
I think the idea is amazing but it will a long time before we have the technology to do it on a big scale. If we can do that though we should be able to live on any part of the Earth too comfortably in dome cities as well.
I would prefer to colonize Hyperion instead. We would dock the space ship to the moon and dig in.
The artificial gravity of the spaceship would continue to work and we would be shielded from ionizing radiation.
Hyperion contains all the material to build new habitates and expand the colony.
But also mining of rocket fuel is simple and it requires mimimal impulse to start from Hyperion. The moon could become the hub for several colonies.
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I don't think that there can be a ''new earth'' anywhere in the solar system. The best we can hope for, is to explore and EXPLOIT the resources of the planets and/or their satellites someday, so that we can solve energy problems and mineral shorteges on Earth. Tapping the planets, in other words.
Amusing: growing food at minus 170ºC with only 1/100th the sunlight. Watering the lettuce with water that is frozen to harder than steel and which at the low vapour pressure will all quickly sublimate, dehydrating the plants. How could you stand on the surface? For as you remain in any one spot for a few moments, the ground under your feet would start to boil away and it would be like staying on top of a fizzy waterspout, you'd lose your footing and start rolling along the surface driven by mini geysers of boiling gas as you body contacts the simmering surface. Building a habitat on the surface would destroy the surface under the habitat and destabilise the habitat as the out flow of heat energy would melt and sublimate/boil away the surface around the colony. The only way to build it would be to dig down into the mineral bedrock, past the surface rocks which are just water ice, and build far below the surface.
Other than vast bounties of (basically useless to modern needs-costs in the millions of $/gallon to bring it to your local gas station) hydrocarbons, enough to make OPEC look like a summer lemonade stand, why ever would we want to go there? There is NOTHING there that we need. Anything we could do there we could do in geo-sync orbit around Earth with just a little asteroid mining/capture for supplies/habitats a lot more easily.
Could we build a research colony on Titan that would be stable and not destroy the 'ecology'-yes. Could such a colony ever be self-sustaining or profitable? With an as yet unforeseeable enduring raison d'être, possibly. Is it likely that we will? Probably not.
The great lakes aren't just in the US check your map.
No one gives a shit
Frickin Chicken: no one gives a shit
Well, as a Canadian, 100% -NOT- an American, I give a shit.
So what if you could figure out a way to bring Titan closer to the Sun would that change things
we need big space ships to move it or many small space drones to shift it in the right direction .
What is the night and day situation? Does Titan spin? Presumably its on the darks side of Saturn for longish periods?
Hi John!!
First of all, thank you for the Curiosity that brought you here!! It is very well appreciated.
To your questions, yes, Titan spins/rotates
let's take a look to Titan's Rotation:
"Titan takes 15 days and 22 hours to complete a full orbit of Saturn. Titan is also tidally locked in synchronous rotation with Saturn, meaning that, like Earth’s Moon, Titan always shows the same face to the planet as it orbits.
Saturn takes about 29 Earth years to orbit the Sun (a Saturnian year), and Saturn’s axis of rotation is tilted like Earth’s, resulting in seasons."
To know more you can check out here:
solarsystem.nasa.gov/moons/saturn-moons/titan/in-depth/#orbit_and_rotation
@@insanecuriosity2682 Thank you very much.
I think we should scrap Mars and colonize the asteroid belt after building a colony on our moon.
Yiu are dreaming! There will be no long term colony on the moon or Mars! PEOPLE CAN NOT LIVE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME IN A MICRO GRAVITY OR NO GRAVITY ENVIRONMENT!!
@@nightlightabcd good thing mars doesn't have a microgravity
Too far away.. too dam cold!! although we would have a beautiful view of Saturn and its rings.
Actually no, we wouldn't. Titans clouds are too thick to see through.
Before crewed missions to the outer solar system become a thing, we'll have to develop faster propulsion technology.
Been seeing a lot of these colonizing titan videos and articles. I notice they all sidestep one really big problem - it's - 149 degrees celsius or colder. You would freeze solid on titan. Your suit will be so hot you would just melt the ground under you and sink.
while Mars can get fairly comfortable along its equator during the summer the average temperatures are still like a harsh Alaskan winter.
I think we’d have to implement “space mirror” technology.
@@undertow2142 there isn't nearly enough sunlight at that distance.
We will need insulation like aerogel or foamed rock. The surface is made of dust and ice, it can't be too bad.
What's the point of teraforming Titan if it gets almost no light, how would plants grow which is the basis of TF'ing.
In our generations lifetime, the possibility exists that we could see Titans
Is Titan protected by Saturn's Magnetic Field? I mean as in when it's in between the Sun and Saturn of course is why it contains a thick atmosphere.
95% of the time
Wow wrong again, there is no oxygen in Titan's atmosphere
You do realize that he was talking about making an atmosphere and the oxygen right?
Or do you choose to ignore words so you can sound smart
@@wyattguilliams9472 F you
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@Master Of puppets wow you are dumb beyond belief
OK this might be a stupid question, but if titan is full of methane, how come it doesn’t blow up.
My concern is not what planet, but who will be sent and who will be left behind? Hmm.
Now many choices for human's living
2:31 -Yes, Mars has an atmosphere. It's that Mars doesn't have much of an atmosphere
Could we heat up Titan by releasing co2 into the atmosphere like here on earth? Maybe by doing that, we could make it warmer and viable to walk around on with just a mask or helmet, as there'd be no harmful radiation? Maybe we could release enough oxygen to make it breathable too, as there is oxygen already in the Titan atmosphere.
It's actually not that much colder than living in the Arctic dangerous yeah but not totally uinhabitable. Just get some good winter clothes and a decent mask. You'd Survive the service just fine... just remember a good oxygen tank too or a decent rebreather.
@@christyshultz6443 Titan is much colder than any documented temperature on earth. CO2 won't be enough, we will need something like SF6.
Great vid! Couple of notes:
Mars has an atmosphere but very less denser
Titan doesn’t have Oxygen
It does have water in the form of ice, a source of oxygen.
@@ericgolightly8450 yea true, ig u could mine ice and separate it into hydrogen for fuel and oxygen for consumption
Hopefully I'll be able to visit the Titan colony in my lifetime.
Or live in a well insulated aquatic home on one of the moons in Jupiter's system.
4:30 that is misleading, the Hydrocarbons are not an energy source.
At the beginning when he was like "for why it would work, and why we would want to go there" i was already like.. "I HEARD WE CAN FLY THERE SO LIKE HELL YEAH LETS GO"
Im okay with the special suits or gear cause like.. id feel like darth vader or any other damaged sith lord.
If you don't mind then can you tell me the name of your background music.
No problem at all, glad you enjoyed it!
Here you go:
Classical Orchestral Epic Music - Conexus
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@@insanecuriosity2682 thanks a lot.
Any chance of Terraforming the United States and making it less inhospitable? Or is the technology still not advanced enough? :)
There's no place like home 🌎💙
Didnt thanos said titan was beautiful with his types of species so u would find bones there
Titan is a valuable option to Colonize but so is the Jovian moon ‘Clysto”. The Jovian moon Calyto has less harmful radiation problems it’s closer to Earth , it has mountains of Ice and seas of Butane. We could mine the ice melt it with butane and pressure Mr stuff with seas of Tholians (gyro carbons). We really need rovers exploring The larger 6 of the Jovian moons and Titan (a moon of Saturn).
But how can we live a planet without Suns presence i mean semi tropical or tropical weather
did he actually say Mars doesn't have an atmosphere?
Thats not true! It has a thin atmosphere and also, the reason there is a lot of radiation on Mars is the lack of an electromagnetic field.
It could transform into a living moon in 5 billion years time when sun becomes a red giant and radiate enough heat to raise the temperature on Titan surface to become Earth like.
Do you even know what a red giant is?
How about we collide Titan with Mars and then we have what we want 😂.
What percentage of each element is the atmosphere comprised of? And what additional elements are in the atmosphere of Titan? Ammonium at any sort of level would most likely be deadly for any Earth bound being bar extremophiles. We would have to completely change the chemical make up of the atmosphere to make Titan livable. Not to mention the infeasability of this due to the low gravity of Titan. How does one make the atmosphere into lighter elements while keeping a heavy enough atmosphere to stay around the moon with less than 40% of the gravity of Earth?
If we were to use the huge amounts of hydrocarbons to fuel industry in space or as a refuel station for outer solar system missions I could understand an outpost or five. But the amount of work Titan would need to be considered another Earth is energy best spent on a planet with gravity similar to our own.
We understand and share your concerns! There are challenging events for such a big change!
About the atmosphere, here you go some facts & figures:
Titan is unique in being the only moon with a thick atmosphere.
Titan's atmosphere is mostly nitrogen (about 95 percent) and methane (about 5 percent), with small amounts of other carbon-rich compounds. High in Titan’s atmosphere, methane and nitrogen molecules are split apart by the Sun's ultraviolet light and by high-energy particles accelerated in Saturn's magnetic field. The pieces of these molecules recombine to form a variety of organic chemicals (substances that contain carbon and hydrogen), and often include nitrogen, oxygen and other elements important to life on Earth
If you want to know more take a look here:
solarsystem.nasa.gov/moons/saturn-moons/titan/in-depth/#atmosphere
Thank you for watching!!
@@insanecuriosity2682 Thanks for the reply, but my third question still stands. If the particles are now lighter thanks to both the Sun and Saturns' energy and our need to change the composition of the atmosphere to make it breathable (your post almost makes me think you believe that the natural break down of the atmosphere would lead to life preserving atmosphere). Even if breathable to us, would the atmosphere not then be subject to being ripped off it slowly by Saturns huge gravity, magnetic field and radiation belts?
In short, isn't the reason Titan can keep such a thick atmosphere in such an environment (such as being in orbit around a gas giant), because the chemical make up of the atmosphere is so dense and not solely because of gravity? And thus would changing its composition lead to a bleed off effect to Saturns' overwhelming mass/energy.
Downside aside from the distance; Titanis way too cold.As a result a spacesuit would be needed not for pressure but heat.
I can imagine people living in different planets and helping each other to find the end of the universe millions of years from now. 😀😃😄. That would be cool.
Definitely cool!! Happy to have optimistic and Curious people like you around here! Thank you for watching :)
So if I understood right it could be easier to survive on Titan then on Mars, because of the atmosphere.
Beautiful information Thanks
If we can do, then lets to it! I'm ready for a new start! I can imagine the jobs needed for this! Lust gotta figure what kind of money we be using earth or something new when we get to our new home?
To cold,too much radiation,no oxygen.,no way for terraforming.
Almost no radiation because of the thick atmosphere, loads of ocean the form of water.
You are wrong on those counts.
Does titan emit the same frequency as earth
If we got to Mars, what makes you think we would stop there?
Re fueling stop.???
The other problem beside low sun light is if we warm it it would be a water world
And atmosphere will fly away!
Im just wondering what difference it makes. It is going to be at the very least, several decaids to do anything more than build a moon base, let alone reach another planet, land on it, and take a a few snapshots. Even if it were possible after several decaids, it would take several more decaids to make it functionally livable. If you are going to spend that kind of time, money and effort to get to a planet to live on, I think the effort and money might be better spent on improving the one we are already on. Dreams are nice, everyone should have some. As technology advances, maybe we can get closer to the dream, but eventually, reality needs kick in. Not one planet we know of supports human life. That by itself is going to be an extremely expensive, and time consuming effort to overcome. That assumes it can ever be done. Plausibility and possibility are two very different things.
Pretty Moon.. and Earth 🌍
Isn't the Universe amazing!? Thank you for watching, see you soon! ;)
I wonder how astronauts poop. If there is no gravity in the space station, then their poop must be floating.
I think the "Insane" part of Insane Curiosity is very apt. BTW: Why do you repeatedly state that Mars doesn't have an atmosphere? It might be very thin, but it's still there!
Titan is beautiful
Bringing hydrocarbons from Titan to Earth would require a LOT of energy. Do the hydrocarbons have enough energy density to justify shipping appreciable amounts across the solar system?
No.
my question is how did our scientist proposed the elements on Titan of we havent set foot on that moon in the first place🤔🤔🤔
Hi Aaron, thank you for watching!
Regarding your question:
"Reflectance spectroscopy is an important tool to acquire information on the composition of the surface of the investigated objects. The solar light reflected from the investigated surfaces carries information on the mineralogy of the observed soils and rocks on those bodies."
If you want to know more about the process take a look here:
www.mps.mpg.de/planetary-science/moon-surface#:~:text=Reflectance%20spectroscopy%20is%20an%20important,surface%20of%20the%20investigated%20objects.&text=more%5D-,Principle%20of%20planetary%20reflectance%20spectroscopy%3A%20Solar%20light%20is%20reflected%20from,instrument%20orbiting%20a%20planetary%20body.
I kinda liked that Netflix movie Titan about trying to engineer a person to exist on titan. It’s not great but lotsa cool shit in it
You know what’s easier than colonising or terraforming a dead moon? Making the planet we have stay liveable...
Easier said than done... How to dealing with population increase each years?! Massacre them?!
Titan is incredible but bring your winter coat
Wait.. wouldnt that mean that life is possibly on titan??
Yeap, it's possible you can find extraterrestrial bacteria there
@@redharrison894 hah knew it :3
Titan's lower atmosphere is primarily composed of nitrogen (94.2%), methane (5.65%), and hydrogen (0.099%).
One breath and you're dead.
Surface temperature is -178C and methane turns liquid at -149C so that one breath will freeze you solid as well.
Hey Ken! Completely valid input, the atmosphere would definitely be challenging, as we said in the video would be possible only if right steps are taken! Thank you for watching, hope you keep being Curious with us! :)
It would be wonderful if we could colonize Titan somedayin the future, to live or travel to a destination like this moon so far away from our home-planet! Nervertheless, living there seems to be for many humans actually a little bit weird. Let's explore other destinations. The Space is very big and we humans should at least explore some areas of it.
Hi Thomas!
Thank you for stopping by and letting us know what you are thinking!
We definitely believe that our way of living would have to be redifined completely as you mention! We agree on you on being Space and Universe an amazing place to explore beyond and beyond!
Happy to share with people as passionate as us!
Hope to see you soon!
imagine looking at the sky on titan and seeing saturn and it’s rings
Titan is way too cold. Now, get an extremely advanced civilization to tow it in between mars and earth, and you’ll have that sweet spot for the sun to warm it up.