@@infernaldisdain8051 not that I doubt LPL, he has more than proven himself. However, can we really prove he bypassed the tamper switch? For all we know it wasn't even wired to alarm.
@@themorrigan1312 they're not hard to find, that small magnet he has is on Amazon for like $20. Idk how reliable Amazon is with powerful magnets but I just as easily found sites dedicated specifically for neodymium magnets, selling similar sized ones for no more that 40-50 bucks.
I suppose you could get a free magnet from an old hard drive and use it as well. Some of those magnets are pretty powerful. I've got one holding up a sledge hammer in my garage.
This... It's like if the end of the story of the Manhattan Project was that "On July 16, 1945, Robert Oppenheimer had toast for breakfast, and they all lived happily ever after..."
... I may have misunderstood him when he said that the alarm was for demonstration purposes. I assumed that he would demonstrate setting off the alarm instead of simply showing that one was connected.
PLEASE TRIGGER the siren once and do a reupload. We would LOVE to hear it ☺️ And Millions of others that follow would be disappointed to miss this important feature on your awesome video!
Some of these keypads actually DO have their tamper-alarm relay closer to the edge than the actual relay, OR a reed switch, just to detect any unauthorized external magnets. In case of stand alone systems however, its uncommon that they are wired to an actual alarm, BUT the tamper switch can be wired to a "disconnector", which is a box that is mounted on the secure side, that contains a bistable relay. This bistable relay has an reset button (or reset keyswitch), and once triggered, it will semi-permanently disconnect the normal relay's output from the actual lock or door strike, requiring someone to go in with a manual key, and push the reset button (or reset with an key) to restore normal functionality. This then prevents someone from tampering with the relay, because once the tamper switch triggers, even for a split second, it will trigger the disconnector and then it will be useless to tamper with the relay. A disconnector is a way to increase the security level of a stand alone system, to a security level that is very close to a split system for a very cheap cost, provided that the stand alone keypad you use, do have sufficent security for both tampering and external magnetic fields. This without resorting to any external monitoring company or guards or someone that can respond to the alarm, while still giving reactive security by removing the possibility to power the lock from the outside once tampering is detected. A disconnector box can also be built very cheaply using just a bistable relay and a button. Even more cheaply if you use a latched relay, but then it would require manual reset after each power loss. here is a manual to the SK6 disconnector box: docplayer.se/4774606-En-sv-sk6-security-unit-installation-manual-siemens-ab-security-products.html
It looked like a beeper/buzzer was on the circuit board. I assume it's to beep when pressing a button. Will the alarm also cause that to go into continuous beeping? I hope not, because then you couldn't have a silent alarm.
I mean, the ideal system would *only* have the code input device on the outside, with all the actual circuitry within the secure space. That this lock doesn't do this is really annoying, since it includes a "door open" box that presumably does go on the inside, so they could have put the relays in there and eliminated this form of attack entirely.
@@TheRealColBosch The reason is cost. Its considerable cheaper to have everything on the outside, otherwise you have to double the amount of electronics. Especially for low to medium security applications. This also gives the installer a choice if they want a less or more secure installation, or want more convience of not having to run wires eveywhere. Also codes isn't secure at all, they can easily be peeped or guessed in most cases. Especially if the color in the buttons that are for the code starts to disappear, so you now only need to figure out the order. So in these types of installations, there is three security levels available: 1 - Standalone installation - usually good for low-security applications, for example a staff entry in a shop, where anyone tampering with the lock would be very noticable, or where unauthorized access isn't a very big deal - for example a door to a stairwell in a apartment complex. 2 - Standalone installation with disconnector box - Usually good for medium-security applications, where you want the security benefits of a split installation, but not the full blown system with all whistles and bells. Usually entrances that require a little more security - for example a unguarded office entry on a office building. 3 - Split, full blown systems with centralized managment - This is used for high security, where the access is the sole way to get complete access, usually with automated disarming of a alarm system too.
In some of these, such as a very similar one I'm reviewing now for Amazon Vine, the 2nd relay isn't for anti tamper at all, it's simply a second relay that can be activated by up to 10 users, with the first by up to 1000. It does have a light sensor for anti tamper that would sound the buzzer, but no gyro or hall sensor that would have been better. I'm suggesting in the review that it's mounted with the right side against a wall or frame to protect the main relay.
@@Platypus_Warrior A rottweiler needs very special training, to only accept food & water from 1 or 2 people, otherwise can be easily disabled/killed. This means no drinking from random water dishes, too. Very hard to have any dog trained that well.
@@Delta9SFBay11 Hey, careful who you call a cop in these trying times. If I get swarmed by rioters, I'll arrest and police brutality you! Yeah, I just used police brutality as a verb. What are ya gunna do abouts it, punk?!
GUTTED! I was expecting the magnet on the other end to trigger the alarm. I use a similar stand alone system on one of my garage doors. It has anti tamper connected to an alarm and a good chunky frame I built around it to stop this kind of attack.
Would have been cool to see a demonstration of hitting the wrong relay and triggering the alarm. Otherwise a very cool and informative video, once again! 😁
The alarm interface is just a dumb open loop and the magnet trick bypasses any control the keypad may normally have over its relay. Closing the loop in any way will trip the alarm. Relays or some other form of electrical isolation are commonly used in access control and alarm systems because they allow different parts of the system to operate on separate power supplies without worrying about compatibility and faults in one system bringing down everything else.
I swear to god, this channel is just about teaching you what locks are easy to bypass and how to do it. However it's all under the guise of reviewing and education. Keep up the good work. Love these videos despite having 0 knowledge on lockpicking.
As always I'm amazed at your brilliance. I've always been intimidated by electronic locks whenever I happen to run across one. But after seeing many of your videos whereby bypassing these with a magnet I'm confident that a majority of these are bypassed with a magnet. It is important however to know where the relay is to place the magnet. Anyway awesome video!
Easier with social engineering: Just say you are there with ketchup for the presidents steak - if you bring McD and wear a MAGA hat you'll be invited right in.
@@KiczzciK Just have your friends spread division and hate on Facebook while you make yourself the lead voice for a racist conspiracy theory, and they will welcome you in and give you the launch codes!
I feel like everyone who sees this channel beforehand thinks everyone who's subbed here are just a bunch of people tryna find out how to rob a bunch of places but it's really just a cool channel
Why didn’t you put the magnet on the other side, and set off the alarm? Why even wire it up to an alarm, or bother telling us you did if you aren’t going to set it off?
Why is there an electromechanical relay in the keypad where it could be easily tempered with from the outside? There has to be some electromagnet in the locking system itself so I don't see the point of putting another one in the keypad.
In this case, it's because this is a very well designed keypad which directly powers the electromagnet, and handles all authentication on the insecure side of the door. You'll note that the only conductors coming out of the power supply go straight into the keypad, and the locking mechanism is also wired straight to it. In a sane design, this wouldn't be possible, but this is what you get when you order a $40 access control system kit on Amazon.
Try with mine (Retekess K10EM-W, looks very similar): the alarm is set off via a luminosity sensor, not with a reed. And moreover: smart people don't connect the relay of the RFID reader to the opener. Smart people connect the wiegand lines (usually labelled D+ and D-), and the central unit will take care of users, authentication, opening etc. Leaving the control in the outside unit is always exploitable. Using the magnet in a situation where wiegand reader + central unit were properly deployed will result in absolutely nothing. Wiegand is pretty secure by today's standard, this setup was not.
I actually bought very cheap (10$) standalone, fully plastic keypad unit. It was enough for it's purpose, but what's suprising it had solid state control circuit. Which means, no relay.
I think he wanted to show us the alarm but simply forgot. I guess after so many videos it just felt natural for him to end it after he'd shown the exploit.
It's been suggested that human brains seek and rely on closure. Once you start something, it's difficult to just let it go early, and it can become a mental burden until then as some small part of your mental processing is kept up by it, sort of like a computer program kept running in the background taking up resources. So anyway yeah, waiting for that alarm to go off...
I'm really curious as to how strong the magnet needs to be. Will the magnet on the end of my Olight flashlight work? Or does one need to carry around that beast you have there?
I wonder if any alarm company has tried selling alarms with at least 2 board configurations, randomly distributed so you need to open the box (triggering the anti-tamper switch) to know which configuration you have. That would take more money, of course, and if they were willing to take effort to increase security, they wouldn't have this sort of set-up. Another idea is to have the tamper-switch (or switches) positioned so that you couldn't easily trigger the open relay without simultaneously triggering the alarm. Since relays use electromagets anyway, there would be the risk of the open signal hitting the alarm or vice versa. Still, the powerful hostile magnet is probably a lot more potent than the tiny relays.
Lock picking lawyer the type of guy to pick your bike lock, deconstruct it, get an unreconstructed lock, reconstruct it, and lock your bike all in under 1 minute.
@LockPickingLawyer You should cover the loctote knife proof bag, I've really wanted one for a while but at that price tag because of your channel I don't trust that lock! It's a beautiful lock and bag and would make a WONDERFUL video.
Maybe when manufacturers make exciting new keypads with entirely new guts and logic, they should keep the outside, including the enclosure, display, and buttons, all the same. That way, if someone encounters one in the wild, they will not be able to figure out the specific model, so they can't use a simple internet search to find the exploits and traps. Of course, it's also just super dumb to put important relays _inside_ the keypad. Also, great idea not triggering the alarm in the video. That was a clever way to get a _lot_ of comments. Sneaky.
That is why my door systems do not use relays; Ethernet built-in connected to an isolated security network with LDAP, RADIUS, VXLANs and walled gardens.
On the bright side, there's no model numbers when you look at it, and the wiring would usually be hidden in the wall, so a burglar wouldn't have the means of determining this in advance, and would probably experiment and hopefully trigger the alarm.
Can we get a Good side-by-side comparison between a good electronic lock and one of these average systems. Maybe even set up a spectrum of bad vs good enough for the price/convenience vs truly secure.
I'm a security engineer and have seen this setup hundreds of times , mostly on electric gates . They are at the end of a drive and the installer NEVER runs a cable to intergrate with the house alarm or even a local buzzer.
in my experience using these standalone systems (i built props and did low voltage wiring for escape room games--i would not use these in a context where actual security was a consideration), at least 10% of them can be bypassed with a sharp tap on the keypad or whatever panel the keypad is mounted to. It seemed that the return mechanisms in the relays were so weak that gentle vibrations would cause the reeds inside to flutter and make contact, unlocking your lock
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i've never been so disappointed not to see an alarm be triggered
I know, right? I was really looking forward to magnet on the other side= alarm tripped.
LPL has apparently never heard of Chekhov's Gun.
Me too. I even turned down the volume on my phone not to wake the baby up upstairs.
Yeah I'm confused why he wired up an alarm to not even show us
🤣
Anyone else disappointed he didn’t set off the alarm?
I was, but I figured that Ms LPL could be taking a nap and since the ice cream bypass everyone knows she's not to be messed with
I'm sorely disappointed, just like Marvin the Martian when the earth shattering kaboom didn't happen.
@@redminotecheiraomem2549 pro tips.
Ya, I think that was an oversight not to show the alarm going off. Maybe he didn't want to extend this already long video? ;-P
Perhaps family was asleep
i thought the point of this video would be to show that trigering the wrong realy WOULD sound the alarm ?
I think the point is to show that even if it’s wired up, you can get in without triggering it.
He's already proven he can't read numbers correctly in a previous video. His dementia is getting worse.
@@crisprtalk6963 or he's drunk again😂
Nothing in the video as is shows the tamper switch is wired correctly.
Wish you would have demonstrated the tamper sensor going off when you hit the wrong relay, likely would have been annoying to hear the siren though
+q++
Aw, man. We all wanted to hear the little siren being tripped.
lol. Going through the effort of wiring a siren and then not demonstrating it.
He did demonstrate it. He demonstrated that he could get through without triggering it.
@@infernaldisdain8051 not that I doubt LPL, he has more than proven himself. However, can we really prove he bypassed the tamper switch? For all we know it wasn't even wired to alarm.
More cabling than a high end PC, less security than a zip-tie on a metal gate.
At least with this, you need to source a decently powerful magnet
@@themorrigan1312 yeah, the forks and redbull cans simply cant breach this badboy
@@themorrigan1312 they're not hard to find, that small magnet he has is on Amazon for like $20. Idk how reliable Amazon is with powerful magnets but I just as easily found sites dedicated specifically for neodymium magnets, selling similar sized ones for no more that 40-50 bucks.
@@SurotaOnishi if its coming from scamazon chances are quite high it came out from china.
I suppose you could get a free magnet from an old hard drive and use it as well. Some of those magnets are pretty powerful. I've got one holding up a sledge hammer in my garage.
conclusion : homework is useful.
NO
@@kaspariuks7466 it seems like you like nitrogen monoxide. Chemistry homework is useful too
No!
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I wish I had done more in school
LPL has heard of Chekov's Gun, surely.
This... It's like if the end of the story of the Manhattan Project was that "On July 16, 1945, Robert Oppenheimer had toast for breakfast, and they all lived happily ever after..."
That’s from the third season of the original Star Trek series, right?
Chuck Oneill thank you, that was my biggest laugh of the day!
I guess Chekov is shooting blanks today.
... I may have misunderstood him when he said that the alarm was for demonstration purposes. I assumed that he would demonstrate setting off the alarm instead of simply showing that one was connected.
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PLEASE TRIGGER the siren once and do a reupload.
We would LOVE to hear it ☺️ And Millions of others that follow would be disappointed to miss this important feature on your awesome video!
agree i thought LPL extra told us he wired it to a siren and would trigger it to show the "wrong" way
Pfft, he's unable to trigger alarms, it's just his unique quirk
Some of these keypads actually DO have their tamper-alarm relay closer to the edge than the actual relay, OR a reed switch, just to detect any unauthorized external magnets.
In case of stand alone systems however, its uncommon that they are wired to an actual alarm, BUT the tamper switch can be wired to a "disconnector", which is a box that is mounted on the secure side, that contains a bistable relay. This bistable relay has an reset button (or reset keyswitch), and once triggered, it will semi-permanently disconnect the normal relay's output from the actual lock or door strike, requiring someone to go in with a manual key, and push the reset button (or reset with an key) to restore normal functionality.
This then prevents someone from tampering with the relay, because once the tamper switch triggers, even for a split second, it will trigger the disconnector and then it will be useless to tamper with the relay.
A disconnector is a way to increase the security level of a stand alone system, to a security level that is very close to a split system for a very cheap cost, provided that the stand alone keypad you use, do have sufficent security for both tampering and external magnetic fields.
This without resorting to any external monitoring company or guards or someone that can respond to the alarm, while still giving reactive security by removing the possibility to power the lock from the outside once tampering is detected.
A disconnector box can also be built very cheaply using just a bistable relay and a button.
Even more cheaply if you use a latched relay, but then it would require manual reset after each power loss.
here is a manual to the SK6 disconnector box: docplayer.se/4774606-En-sv-sk6-security-unit-installation-manual-siemens-ab-security-products.html
It looked like a beeper/buzzer was on the circuit board. I assume it's to beep when pressing a button. Will the alarm also cause that to go into continuous beeping? I hope not, because then you couldn't have a silent alarm.
@@mjbirdClavdivs Depends on model, but in many cases it can be turned off with a configuration command or jumper.
I mean, the ideal system would *only* have the code input device on the outside, with all the actual circuitry within the secure space. That this lock doesn't do this is really annoying, since it includes a "door open" box that presumably does go on the inside, so they could have put the relays in there and eliminated this form of attack entirely.
@@TheRealColBosch The reason is cost. Its considerable cheaper to have everything on the outside, otherwise you have to double the amount of electronics. Especially for low to medium security applications.
This also gives the installer a choice if they want a less or more secure installation, or want more convience of not having to run wires eveywhere.
Also codes isn't secure at all, they can easily be peeped or guessed in most cases. Especially if the color in the buttons that are for the code starts to disappear, so you now only need to figure out the order.
So in these types of installations, there is three security levels available:
1 - Standalone installation - usually good for low-security applications, for example a staff entry in a shop, where anyone tampering with the lock would be very noticable, or where unauthorized access isn't a very big deal - for example a door to a stairwell in a apartment complex.
2 - Standalone installation with disconnector box - Usually good for medium-security applications, where you want the security benefits of a split installation, but not the full blown system with all whistles and bells. Usually entrances that require a little more security - for example a unguarded office entry on a office building.
3 - Split, full blown systems with centralized managment - This is used for high security, where the access is the sole way to get complete access, usually with automated disarming of a alarm system too.
In some of these, such as a very similar one I'm reviewing now for Amazon Vine, the 2nd relay isn't for anti tamper at all, it's simply a second relay that can be activated by up to 10 users, with the first by up to 1000. It does have a light sensor for anti tamper that would sound the buzzer, but no gyro or hall sensor that would have been better. I'm suggesting in the review that it's mounted with the right side against a wall or frame to protect the main relay.
Yikes, everyone burning you for not triggering the alarm...
I'll join them.
I thought he was going to show us the alarm going off since he took the time to wire it up. Disappointed
"I've wired this up to a small alarm for demonstration purposes, but im not actually going to demonstrate that....." SMH lol
Darkassassin 07 apparently LPL isn’t familiar with Chekhov’s Gun.
"doing your homework is easy"
I swear, at this point he is just teaching us how to break in to someone elses property unnoticed
Was that not the case?
And a great job!
More clients when they get caught
Love the channel but it's somehow controversial to say the least. So far, it seems like he doesn't know how to open a rottweiler yet
@@Platypus_Warrior A rottweiler needs very special training, to only accept food & water from 1 or 2 people, otherwise can be easily disabled/killed. This means no drinking from random water dishes, too. Very hard to have any dog trained that well.
Everyone in the comments got triggered when the alarm didn't 😂
That's a very nice way of phrasing that.
(Could be even better if there was a period to end the sentence before the emoji, though.)
Will you be ok?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Especially the punctuation cop...and Steven Gunderson (I'm assuming he's talking about theuncalledfor commenter)
@@Delta9SFBay11
Hey, careful who you call a cop in these trying times. If I get swarmed by rioters, I'll arrest and police brutality you!
Yeah, I just used police brutality as a verb. What are ya gunna do abouts it, punk?!
You install the siren and don't trigger it :(
Even my wife was disappointed not to hear the alarm go off. Come on man.
aww he didnt trigger the alarm, he even took the time to set it up. disappointed
0:55 “for teaching purposes I hooked it up to a little siren”. Proceeds to not teach us with the siren. 🤦🏼♂️
Why did you set up the alarm without triggering it ? :(
Uhh because it’s supposed to be unlocked without triggering it
Episode 19
"Someone is breaking into the house!"
"That's just the thief next door's son, doing his homework. I said it was ok."
😳
Plot Twist: it's actually a home invader
GUTTED! I was expecting the magnet on the other end to trigger the alarm.
I use a similar stand alone system on one of my garage doors. It has anti tamper connected to an alarm and a good chunky frame I built around it to stop this kind of attack.
@Casey Whitlow 2" wood.
I thought you were going to show us what happens when you put the magnet to the alarm relay
I'm not sure why he went to the trouble of wiring up the little siren when he didn't actually trip the wrong relay.
This isn't what they mean when they say, "always leave the audience wanting more." 😂
You didn't show the alarm going off!
Would have been cool to see a demonstration of hitting the wrong relay and triggering the alarm. Otherwise a very cool and informative video, once again! 😁
Would the alarm trip with the other relay hit by the magnet then?
Yes
The alarm interface is just a dumb open loop and the magnet trick bypasses any control the keypad may normally have over its relay. Closing the loop in any way will trip the alarm. Relays or some other form of electrical isolation are commonly used in access control and alarm systems because they allow different parts of the system to operate on separate power supplies without worrying about compatibility and faults in one system bringing down everything else.
@@teardowndan5364 thank you
@@teardowndan5364 Nerd
@@derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut We'll never know.
and you didn't show the alarm being tripped why?
If only solid state switches would exist, oh wait, transistors do exist.
You should have triggered the other relay for the tamper alarm, for teaching purposes.
THE CASINO HISET IS MAKING THEM GO CRAZY
I wanted to hear the alarm
Why thank you for being considerate of the possibility of setting off the alarm when trying to circumvent keypad entry systems as I so often do...
I swear to god, this channel is just about teaching you what locks are easy to bypass and how to do it. However it's all under the guise of reviewing and education.
Keep up the good work. Love these videos despite having 0 knowledge on lockpicking.
As always I'm amazed at your brilliance. I've always been intimidated by electronic locks whenever I happen to run across one. But after seeing many of your videos whereby bypassing these with a magnet I'm confident that a majority of these are bypassed with a magnet. It is important however to know where the relay is to place the magnet. Anyway awesome video!
Why not show the alarm being triggered
Listen up, children. DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
Why bother with the magnet at all.
This man's magnetism is enough to open locks by itself.
Next video: Breaking into the White House
Easier with social engineering: Just say you are there with ketchup for the presidents steak - if you bring McD and wear a MAGA hat you'll be invited right in.
@@KiczzciK Just have your friends spread division and hate on Facebook while you make yourself the lead voice for a racist conspiracy theory, and they will welcome you in and give you the launch codes!
Show us what happens when you trigger the other relay!
SET THE ALARM OFF!!!! You have to finish these things for those of us that need closure!
If not a siren, a huge bright red light globe!
you didn't set the alarm off though!!!! What was the point of rigging the whole thing up?????????
I feel like everyone who sees this channel beforehand thinks everyone who's subbed here are just a bunch of people tryna find out how to rob a bunch of places but it's really just a cool channel
Why didn’t you put the magnet on the other side, and set off the alarm? Why even wire it up to an alarm, or bother telling us you did if you aren’t going to set it off?
He hooks it up to the alarm only to not trigger it. At least he triggered ME with this.
Notice how he chamfered the edges of the plywood base. He takes care.
Owns the same screwdriver set as the LPL, my life is now complete!
why rig up an alarm if you didnt set it off, its like doing a fishing video of all the fish you lost
Incredible this guy can open 99% locks in the market.....
LPL's cable management for one video:
my mess under the desk: 👀 👀 👀
Why is there an electromechanical relay in the keypad where it could be easily tempered with from the outside? There has to be some electromagnet in the locking system itself so I don't see the point of putting another one in the keypad.
In this case, it's because this is a very well designed keypad which directly powers the electromagnet, and handles all authentication on the insecure side of the door. You'll note that the only conductors coming out of the power supply go straight into the keypad, and the locking mechanism is also wired straight to it. In a sane design, this wouldn't be possible, but this is what you get when you order a $40 access control system kit on Amazon.
Oh, neat, I stumbled upon a fresh vid! Love your work, LPL.
wait no magnet test on other sign to show alarm works?
Try with mine (Retekess K10EM-W, looks very similar): the alarm is set off via a luminosity sensor, not with a reed.
And moreover: smart people don't connect the relay of the RFID reader to the opener. Smart people connect the wiegand lines (usually labelled D+ and D-), and the central unit will take care of users, authentication, opening etc.
Leaving the control in the outside unit is always exploitable.
Using the magnet in a situation where wiegand reader + central unit were properly deployed will result in absolutely nothing. Wiegand is pretty secure by today's standard, this setup was not.
You obviously understand the point from the initial video then
I finally get it... he’s teaching us how to pick locks to get us in legal trouble so he can defend us in court... genius marketing strategy
A fine example of why one should use transistors instead of relays.
I wonder if reed switches are still being used like the old closed loop systems?
I actually bought very cheap (10$) standalone, fully plastic keypad unit. It was enough for it's purpose, but what's suprising it had solid state control circuit. Which means, no relay.
You, sir, are a national treasure.
I think he wanted to show us the alarm but simply forgot. I guess after so many videos it just felt natural for him to end it after he'd shown the exploit.
Category: *Education*
What did you want it to be fucking gaming
Well it's the right one..?
LPL: _Do not be alarmed_
I love how much you never say LPL! And for another great vid.
I just love this content... It's like 'you are not safe behing any security system...'
It's been suggested that human brains seek and rely on closure. Once you start something, it's difficult to just let it go early, and it can become a mental burden until then as some small part of your mental processing is kept up by it, sort of like a computer program kept running in the background taking up resources.
So anyway yeah, waiting for that alarm to go off...
Heh, this looks exactly like the cheap kit I was looking for securing my shed. Should've guessed they have obvious design faults :)
I'm really curious as to how strong the magnet needs to be. Will the magnet on the end of my Olight flashlight work? Or does one need to carry around that beast you have there?
FYI its a neodymium magnet which is very strong compare to other common magnets
I wonder sometimes how many robbers are watching these videos
So he hooks up an alarm but doesn't prove what he says by showing us. 🤦🏻♂️
Did anyone already mention that the carefully connected alarm wasn't triggered? :D
I wonder if any alarm company has tried selling alarms with at least 2 board configurations, randomly distributed so you need to open the box (triggering the anti-tamper switch) to know which configuration you have. That would take more money, of course, and if they were willing to take effort to increase security, they wouldn't have this sort of set-up.
Another idea is to have the tamper-switch (or switches) positioned so that you couldn't easily trigger the open relay without simultaneously triggering the alarm. Since relays use electromagets anyway, there would be the risk of the open signal hitting the alarm or vice versa. Still, the powerful hostile magnet is probably a lot more potent than the tiny relays.
Lock picking lawyer the type of guy to pick your bike lock, deconstruct it, get an unreconstructed lock, reconstruct it, and lock your bike all in under 1 minute.
@LockPickingLawyer You should cover the loctote knife proof bag, I've really wanted one for a while but at that price tag because of your channel I don't trust that lock! It's a beautiful lock and bag and would make a WONDERFUL video.
Maybe when manufacturers make exciting new keypads with entirely new guts and logic, they should keep the outside, including the enclosure, display, and buttons, all the same. That way, if someone encounters one in the wild, they will not be able to figure out the specific model, so they can't use a simple internet search to find the exploits and traps.
Of course, it's also just super dumb to put important relays _inside_ the keypad.
Also, great idea not triggering the alarm in the video. That was a clever way to get a _lot_ of comments. Sneaky.
literally every comment: wanted to see him trip the alarm
Police ofcr: "Now let me get this straight, you weren't really breaking in, you were simply doing your homework?"
I am glad the alarm didn’t go off. I like to relax while watching your videos and the alarm would have scared me haha
That is why my door systems do not use relays; Ethernet built-in connected to an isolated security network with LDAP, RADIUS, VXLANs and walled gardens.
This is gradually turning in to a School for Scoundrels !
I think it would be useful to place both relays next to each other, avoiding the chance of closing them separately.
You did not trigger the alarm *SadFace*
I installed equipment like this for several years. Never once wired a tamper switch. Most customers were too cheap.
For just a moment, I thought that _HFeng_ was short for _Harbor Freight Engineering._
How are we supposed to believe that the other relay would disable the lock if it wasn't tested here?
On the bright side, there's no model numbers when you look at it, and the wiring would usually be hidden in the wall, so a burglar wouldn't have the means of determining this in advance, and would probably experiment and hopefully trigger the alarm.
Conclusion: the key to this lock is actually a magnet.
The cadence of this guy's voice is crazy
I cannot believe we didnt get to see the result of triggering the wrong relay!!
Why did you go to all the trouble of wiring in an alarm for teaching purposes if you weren't going to demonstrate the alarm?
Can we get a Good side-by-side comparison between a good electronic lock and one of these average systems. Maybe even set up a spectrum of bad vs good enough for the price/convenience vs truly secure.
I'm a security engineer and have seen this setup hundreds of times , mostly on electric gates . They are at the end of a drive and the installer NEVER runs a cable to intergrate with the house alarm or even a local buzzer.
“Can be a problem...” Sounds like a good thing to me
Why did they put the tamper relay on the other side? Placing it between the side of the case and the real relay would make more sense.
Saw in the thumbnail that the yellow cable from the switch went to the keypad. Why? Why? Why?
in my experience using these standalone systems (i built props and did low voltage wiring for escape room games--i would not use these in a context where actual security was a consideration), at least 10% of them can be bypassed with a sharp tap on the keypad or whatever panel the keypad is mounted to. It seemed that the return mechanisms in the relays were so weak that gentle vibrations would cause the reeds inside to flutter and make contact, unlocking your lock
What a tease. The next video will probably just be LPL picking a lock, saying “okay it’s done”, and not showing it open