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Комментарии • 20

  • @Mohammad1Ahmad
    @Mohammad1Ahmad Год назад +2

    Thank you very much, a professional teacher who deserves all respect and appreciation

  • @XJWill1
    @XJWill1 Год назад +2

    I would like to know what you typed into Wolfram Alpha to get that set of solutions, because when I type :
    complex solutions z^(Log(z)/Log(10)) = (sqrt(z))^Log(z)
    or anything like that, it gives me a single solution, z = 1. Which, incidentally, agrees with my own computation, assuming everything is taken to be the principal branch (principal value) in the given equation. There are no complex solutions in the principal branch of the equation shown in the video. And since WA uses the principal branch, it should not have returned the solutions you showed.
    By the way, I have commented repeatedly that your misapplication of exponentiation identities that are valid for positive-real-numbers but you apply them to complex-valued numbers, will get you into trouble eventually. Your answer in this video is incorrect. And (z^w)^p does NOT equal z^(w*p) in general for complex numbers (or even for some negative real numbers).

    • @XJWill1
      @XJWill1 Год назад +2

      Here is a solution over the complex numbers, assuming the principal branch of every function in the equation given in the video. Spoiler: no non-real valued solutions exist
      Note that Log() is the principal branch of the complex-valued natural Logarithm function
      PV: z^(Log(z)/Log(10)) = (sqrt(z))^Log(z)
      exp(Log(z)*Log(z)/Log(10)) = exp(Log(sqrt(z))*Log(z))
      exp(Log(z)*Log(z)/Log(10)) = exp(1/2 * Log(z)*Log(z))
      Note that Log(z^x) = x*Log(z) for x real-valued and abs(x) < 1
      exp(Log(z)^2 * (1/2 - 1/Log(10))) = 1
      log( exp(Log(z)^2 * (1/2 - 1/Log(10))) ) = log(1)
      Log(z)^2 * (1/2 - 1/Log(10)) = i*k*2*pi any integer k
      Log(z)^2 = i*k*2*pi / (1/2 - 1/Log(10))
      Log(z) = (-1)^m * ( i*k*2*pi / (1/2 - 1/Log(10)) )^(1/2)
      Log(z) = (-1)^m * (i*k)^(1/2) * sqrt(2*pi / (1/2 - 1/Log(10)) )
      Note that (w*z)^p = w^p * z^p if w or z are positive real-valued
      Log(z) = (-1)^m * sqrt(abs(k)/2) * (1 + i * sgn(k)) * sqrt(2*pi / (1/2 - 1/Log(10)) )
      = (-1)^m * sqrt(abs(k)) * (1 + i * sgn(k)) * sqrt( pi / (1/2 - 1/Log(10)) )
      = (-1)^m * sqrt(abs(k)) * (1 + i * sgn(k)) * 6.9147...
      Note that -pi < Im( Log(z) )

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  Год назад

      www.wolframalpha.com/input?i2d=true&i=Power%5Bx%2Clogx%5D%3DPower%5B%5C%2840%29Sqrt%5Bx%5D%5C%2841%29%2Clnx%5D

    • @yoav613
      @yoav613 Год назад +1

      @@SyberMath no syber,what you wrote is x^(lnx)=x^(lnx/2) because in wolfram logx is lnx.if you want logx in wolfram you should write log10(x)

    • @XJWill1
      @XJWill1 Год назад +1

      @@SyberMath It even printed a warning telling you that "assuming log is the natural logarithm". You should really read the warnings that WA gives. They can be helpful.

  • @luker.6967
    @luker.6967 Год назад +1

    I can't seem to convince Wolfram Alpha to give me the complex solutions for log base 10. However it would give them for log base 2 and 3, which were an absolute mess.

    • @XJWill1
      @XJWill1 Год назад +2

      That is because there are no complex solutions for log base 10. The solutions shown in the video are not for the equation given in the video. I'm not sure how he messed that up.

  • @hichammouaddib7762
    @hichammouaddib7762 Год назад

    😁👍

  • @kianmath71
    @kianmath71 Год назад

    X = 1

  • @scottleung9587
    @scottleung9587 Год назад

    Interesting exploration of WA's answers!

  • @ftorum19
    @ftorum19 Год назад +1

    Equastion with complex numbers (sinx)^3+(cosx)^3=2

  • @trojanleo123
    @trojanleo123 Год назад

    x = 1

  • @michaelbaum6796
    @michaelbaum6796 Год назад

    Wow, this complex solution is very interesting 👍

    • @yoav613
      @yoav613 Год назад

      Very interesting,but not asolution to this problem.

    • @hydropage2855
      @hydropage2855 Год назад

      @@yoav613what are you talking about. It is a solution

  • @alextang4688
    @alextang4688 Год назад +1

    x^log(x)=(sqrt(x))^ln(x)
    Take ln both sides,
    ln(x^log(x))=ln((sqrt(x))^ln(x))
    log(x)*ln(x)=ln(x)*ln(x^(1/2))
    Therefore,
    ln(x)=0 or log(x)=ln(x^(1/2))
    case 1,
    ln(x)=0
    x=1 answer
    case 2,
    log(x)=ln(x^(1/2))
    2log(x)=ln(x)
    2log(x)=log(x)/log(e)
    Therefore log(x)=0
    x=1 answer
    So, the answer is x=1 only. 😋😋😋😋😋😋

  • @lazizbeknomozov7814
    @lazizbeknomozov7814 Год назад

    f(x+y)+f(x-y)=2f(x)cosy f(x)=? x,y€R plz help me

    • @antonyqueen6512
      @antonyqueen6512 Год назад

      You can check the result by using the formulas:
      cos(x+y)=cos(x).cos(y) - sin(x).sin(y)
      And
      sin(x+y)=sin(x).cos(y) + cos(x).sin(y)

  • @rakenzarnsworld2
    @rakenzarnsworld2 Год назад

    x = 1