I've been in this inkjet business for almost 30 years now. This is the BEST I've heard on printers!!! Jose, you have just successfully UNCLOGGED my brain!! Thanks!
Good message Jose. From your recommendation I have committed to printing from my Cannon Pro10 once every 60 hours or less. This has made me a better printer. I am getting my prints right the first time now (most of the time). It also makes me a better photographer because I now feel I need to go out and photograph at least once a week so I have something new to print. This has been a better investment than a new lens or camera.
Great advise! I used a couple of years to decide to buy the Canon Pro 1000 due to the fact I knew it would take commitment both money wise and actual printing. It also took some time to accept the printing costs. But when you do; its the best hobby! Holding a printed picture you are happy with, is next level!
Starting almost twenty years with an Epson 1290, it´s been a long and steep learning curve for me, and from my experience your advice to beginners is spot on. I think your videos are amazing.
This video was an eye-opener for me. I was considering getting one of the pro printers so I can print from home and negate the need for a lab. After seeing this video, I changed my mind. Yes labs are expensive, but so are pro printers! Thank you Jose
Having said that, I just received my prints from an international lab, and they were (slightly) damaged during transportation. Now that I am more aware of pros and cons of each option (lab and home), I might consider home printing again but only after more thorough research.
I just discovered you. Great video! I followed the path you described, exactly. Had no idea what I was getting into when I bought my Epson 7890 (24”) beast in 2014. Found out quickly about color management , inks, papers and canvases and heavy duty cleaning. Now, I use only the best and most expensive supplies. I was shocked to learn that I could spend $1200 for a full load of ink, that I didn’t need anyway. But luck fell my way and in six weeks earnings had covered the initial outlay of $1850. Now it will cost twice that to replace it. Today, I have over five years on that printer and it is still chugging along nicely, fingers crossed. I thought I was starting a photography business. Now, years later, I consider myself a professional printer and still an amateur photographer. But, printing pays the bills for my hobby. I will be following you on RUclips. Thanks.
Just starting with the same printer (8180 in my country). I US you have Color Precision pigment ink set available, as Jose have mentioned and even hosted this set's author on his channel. In Europe, one company from Austria provides very same prpduct + service. Six pigment inks plus ready-mwde ICC profiles for most of papers made by three most popular brands and for their brand papers. Farbwerke - worth to try unless you fill ypur Epson with mix of OEM hybrid inkset. Worth every panny/grosz/öre/eurocent spent.
Thanks, I'm the new owner of a Canon Pro-300 so this comes in handy. Several years ago I owned an Epson R2400, I absolutely hated that printer to the point where I switched to Dye Sub. This is my second time around with Ink-Jet printers, wish me luck !
Thanks for the feed back! The person who wrote the code to this program is also supposed to be working on a windows version. Don't give up on the cat just yet!
Thank you for this video. I just bought the 1000. Thankfully, I've been a hobby artist for 4 years and have over 100 paintings laying around that are quality to make prints, my online audience has expanded over the years too and I plan on going to local art stores shows to sell. I'm so happy with this printer and I can't wait to dive in to it!
Bought half-pro Epson 8550. I was ready for what you said before I found it, just by "thinking in advance". But not everybody is technical person, so your rare advice can be a real treasure. My case contains two factors. 1. I had no more time time and patience for "trial and error" with another and another labs. 2. I'm in camera club. There is no problem for me to have some job for my printer three times a week. And if I need longer journey, i have few people in my city, to whom I can give my printer to take care. Care not by nonproductive "clean heads" prints but to make pictures. Not only I can print like I need, but also provide perfectly consulted prints for others.
I also am in a camera club. That is why I am looking for a printer. I print a lot to get it right. If I had a printer here I could do a small print first to see if the photo is printing correct. I am tired of running to the lab and I don't have time to wait for photos.
How cool! What was your favorite beer? Do you think it is possible to print a photobook with the canon pro1000, or is it more just for fine art prints? All my best
Thanks a lot. I was thinking about buying another printer or buy a new print head. I will continue to have 'my' Printer' print my photos. It's a two hour drive to the Printer.
Hope you plan on only using OEM inks. Be aware there are no refillable carts with auto reset chips. Single use chips are available but cost about $10-12 each you add ink and well, it does not make much financial sense compared to OEM.
@@cheo1949 Thank you. Yes, I am going to use OEM inks. I will print every week on a 4x6 size sheet to help conserve ink and prevent clogging. I plan on saving the 8x10 and 13x19 prints for my "best" work that I feel warrants a bigger print. If you feel like another approach at saving ink costs would be more effective I would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you, and happy printing!
Thank you Jose. We're in Lockdown down in NZ I'm just about to buy the Canon Pro 1000, your information gives fruit for thought I've had this Canon Pro 9500 since about 2003. Used it for printing building drawings just use a drat to save the ink and of course photos. My understanding is it is night and day the quality in the difference of the printers. Advantage of the pro 1000 I would have is I can print A2 for the drawings plus the quantity for photos. So I need to print a 4x6 print every second day. In our lockdown Ive been making picture frames from demolition native timber(we're not allowed to cut Native Timber any more, which is great) also been using farm fence battens native and there is a rustic look to them. They really look cool You've given me fruit for thought that for sure Cheers
Solid Advice. Thank you. Your delivery is so good and honest. Based on your knowledge I will not be trying to print at home and will be having my high-end digital images printed out of house. Any advice on what service to use would be most welcome. I photograph in color and black & white. Have a great day and hello from Rochester NY.
This has been a good informative video for my consideration! I am looking to get into the print business, and looking for it as a business venture than a personal one. Talking to a few local photographers in my area, there is a definite demand for prints, on various media. I expect a printer to be printing daily
That's the idea. Every single day I read about printer owners who had not idea what they were getting into. I've had plenty of successes and plenty of regrets. Just trying to keep others from the same regrets I've had to deal with.
Very informative. I have a couple of multi function inkjets. They are generally used for text an copying black and white documents. When I do want to print images, I find I generally have to run the cleaning cycle 4 times to ensure all nozzles are clear and the printer is functioning optimally. Your video makes it clear I have to think carefully about how I would use and maintain a dedicated photo printer like a CANON ProGraf 1000.
Thank you Jose. Lots of food for thought. I live in the mountains, two hours from Panama City in Panama. There are labs in the city, quality hit or miss, but uggh, at 72 years old, uggh, the drive. We do have the local equivalent of UPS here, it may make it reasonable to use a printer in the city. If I order from the States, the consistently-high-quality prints would come right to my door, but with a two or three week delay and a lot of international shipping costs. I would like to start selling my prints. But at the moment I have zero customers! Although I am salivating over the Pro 2100, I'm thinking that home printing, with all the pampering, may have to wait until I have a larger client base. I may just have to figure out the logistics of using a "local" lab. Alternatively, since I want the "fun" of being married to my own printer, I guess I could plan on printing a couple prints per week to build up an inventory even though I don't have a customer. Even if I eventually sold one out of every couple/few that I printed, it might be worth it. So many variables. So many options. So many compromises. Yup, just like being married. But I wouldn't have it any other way. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for this great video. Saludos.
Thank you for taking the time to reaffirm this hard truth once and for all. I was just considering buying a new print head for my petrified Pro-100. Question... for those of us who want to make occasional prints in home and are simply unable to keep an ink jet happy, are you aware of any laser printers that do a respectable job? I am a "B&W only" photographer who would gladly sacrifice a little quality at this point in return for a printer that doesn't mind sitting idle for extended periods of time. I keep hearing about newer "image quality" laser units being better than expected on good paper, but it's tough to find working floor models anywhere to get a sample print made. Just wondering if you might have any insight? Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world, wishing you the best.
I have a Canon Pro9000 I bought about 5 years ago, and hadn't turned it on for about a year. I figured it wouldn't work and I'd finally have some extra shelf space when I tossed it. I didn't feel too bad as I didn't use it much and was planning on farming my printing out anyway. To my shock, it printed perfectly!
I just came across your video about maintenance. I am considering the new imagePROGRAF PRO-300 - so I will be sure to contact Canon before I purchase it. My main purpose is to make art quality prints of my watercolors paintings and I like the ability to print 13 x 19. I contacted the third party ink supplier I use for my little Canon Pixma, and they said they won't be carrying the ink cartridges for this model. SO - I already knew I'd be getting Canon ink. Thank you for your information -
Good advice. Do you think that the epson ecotanks are any good? Some use 4 colors only another one uses 6 colors. I know that they are inexpensive to use, but with 4 colors will they print quality photos? I don't need more that 8x10 prints.
I was hoping to get a Canon pro printer and was comparing the 10 to the 100 a few months ago. That's how I found your channel. I decided to wait. I definitely want to get into home printing eventually and will actually probably get the Pro-1000. But I'm waiting until I can pair it with a desktop computer (an iMac preferably) that can be on all the time to run scheduled prints every 2 days to avoid purges, and I'll also be wanting to hook it up to a backup power system so in the event of a power surge or outage the printer will never ever ever lose power, yet another trigger for a purge. I'll also probably do Prismacolor refills, but that's another big decision since I would rather use archival-quality inks that last as long as possible. But then there is the domino effect you've spoken of regarding every time you change a cartridge the whole printer does a purge, so… Refilling two sets of carts to switch between may be unavoidable. Your channel truly is so valuable. I've learned so much. Apart from putting me off, it's made me want to wait until I can do it RIGHT.
Just so you know...we now know there is no way to disable or avoid the Auto maintenance cleaning cycles. They will occur as needed whether you print or not. Printing will not prevent them. In fact it is printing that creates the need for them. Residue is produced inside the print head during printing and that needs to be flushed out periodically as needed and detected by the printer. Do not use compatible carts on your Canon printer. If you must refill..only refill your original cartridges. Watch more of my CANON printer videos for all the info concerning that. I have video playlists for each printer.
My printer requires a cleaning cycle every time I turn it on to print a shipping label. I need a new set of inks about every 5 photos I print. Holy expensive printer. Such tiny ink tanks too. 3 complete sets of ink, and I might have a total of 30 prints out of it. Never noticed a clog though.
Thank you for this. I try to tell people this all of the time. I am a photographer. I do not have a home printer. Even for my test prints, I use MPIX. There is no good reason for me to own a home printer when a lab is so cheap. I have done the math and I cannot print at home for cheaper than using a lab. Way back when the Epson R series was new, I had a home printer. Not anymore. I wish people understood why this is really not a good option for someone that is not printing and selling multiple photos per day.
Precision Colors says in his review of the Pro 100 archival quality is "largely a non issue if the correct papers are chosen. Using swellable papers like HP Premium Plus or Ilford Galerie line puts this pretty close to the pigments. If 50 + years is not enough well then move onto pigment inks." Would it be suitable using PC inks and aforementioned papers for photo exhibitions?
Was looking at Pro-10 and Pro-100 but after all this, I saved a lot and got XP-15000....Wife can print photos for house and I can do my oversized prints for airbrush stencils and copies of my other artwork mediums...being able to test my 11x17 true to size prior to making a mistake will be amazing
I wish I were watching your videos on a 5 hour earlier, now I'm already acquired pro 1000 I visited the reflection between 300 and 1000 model, self-reflection that the ink cartridge size is bigger and probably more reasonable because the previous home printers have always become stuck and one of the colors has run out when I printed the bigger picture. I hope I came up with the right choice. The campaign price of 1000 euros attracted the choice.
Saw an Epson printer at an e-waste place, picked it up for $90. not a good investment, the print head was totally clogged and nothing I did could remedy it, and I wasn't going to pay upwards of $1500 for a new print head (it was the Epson Stylus Pro 9890). I salvaged all the motors and boards out of it and put the whole thing in the dumpster. This was 2 weeks ago. Last week we got a HP Z3200 44" from an ebay seller, local pickup, for $300. Needs a new carriage belt which should get here tomorrow. This should be a much better deal. The inks are cheaper, the heads are easily replaceable and not all colors in one unit either. Wish me luck :)
1. No problem if you have money. 2. This is for people who are serious about art and photography. Once you take your profession serious you'll realize this printer is no problem at all. If you want a printer for documents etc etc. Go get a toy printer.
Does anyone know if the Pro 200 from Canon also does cleaning cycles automatically? I mean, it´s a DYE printer, and it doesn´t have any maintenance-box inside?
Well it seems Inkjet Plumber doesn't work on Big Sur and the developer is no longer maintaining it... Any other options out there that does the same thing? I haven't printed in over a year as I had stopped shooting but now that I'm fully vaccinated, I feel like I can go back out and start shooting street and documentary images again. I'm currently using an Epson 1400 with the Cone Color Inks and eventually plan on setting up my second 1400 with their Peizography b/w inks - any recommendations on how to get something like this utility going? My hope is to print more frequently but for now I'm easing into it.
Qimage one has a tool called Unclog Tool. It creates a custom purge sheet using your printer's specific and then you schedule it to print as you wish. Check my video description for a promo code link and you get 10% off plus they are offering another 10% off discount.
I learned a lot by watching you channel. I used to develop B&W prints, I invested in all the equipment. loved it but digital took over. I am not sure I can invest in pro printer yet. I am waiting for the best deal to come out. I would like to refill the ink, It makes sense to refill the carts. So an auto cycle every 2 days, sounds like a lot. What can you do if you are away more than a couple of weeks.I would hate to ruin the print head.
Jose, I’m glad I found your channel, it has helped me already. I bought a Canon pro 10. I have quite a bit of family prints that I want to make, most of them smaller prints, 8x10, but mostly 4x6 or 5x7. What is your rough estimate of the cost of printing your own prints, compared to a online pro printer like MPIX. Using OEM paper and inks, do you think it’s 10% more expensive or 20% more expensive (or more) to print your own prints? I have printed some with the pro 10 and I am very happy as the skin tones are even better than what I’ve gotten from online pro labs. Thanks!!
There is a very good print cost comparison between printers at the RedRiver Paper Site. It will be much more expensive initially due to the cost of all the things you will need to really produce top quality prints. Printer, Inks, Monitor Calibrator, Equipment to produce custom paper printing profiles. But one you get set up and you are able to print consistently with great results, it will be much more reasonable. Instant gratification and the ability to instantly be able to reprint something after a slight adjustment trumps any savings you might get from an external lab.
Excellent video. My Pro1 still in box as I await a chunk of time to get it set up and learn to use it. I reckon some people could benefit from your relationship advice too :)
I havent found ive had to print as often as is stated here. Had a 3800 epson for years and now run an epson artisan 1430 and P 800. Printing once a month has caused no problems with any of these printers and theres been a few occasions where I havent printed for 2 months and still havent had clogging. Maybe its because they are located in a basement that is very cool all year round .? Could it be higher temperatures cause clogging when printers are left idle? I sold my old 3800 and tested it after 4 months being idle and it was fine.
Environment is very important. If you have a slightly above average levels of humidity your printer will basically hardly ever clog. But again I stress that using the printer often will keep it healthier than not using it often.
Hi, thanks for the video. Do you know where can i download the icc profiles for Canons PRO 1000 papers so i can import them to lightroom and capture one to soft proof with?
Do you mean the OEM paper profiles? They are installed along with the driver. You don't "Import" profiles to any editing Application. They already live in your hard drive and should be automatically accessed when to tell you printing module to control color.
@@cheo1949 Thanks for the reply. Yes, i am looking for those. I need to import them into Capture one so that i can "soft proof" within capture one. Where do i find them on my hard drive? Thank you.
Thanks for the video. Appreciate it . Its an eye opener. I hardly give my time to edit photos, forget about printing. Let shutterfly take care of my prints.
Hi Jose. I have been binge watching your videos as I wanted to learn more about ink jet printing. I have one of those all-in-one printers Epson XP530 which I use to print on their photo papers (A4 and 10x15 cm2) from time to time but nothing dedicated yet (been eyeing Canon Pro 100s). In any case, I would like to ask for your advice about a good solution on storing prints (as there is a limited space on my walls :)). I have seen A3 boxes by Canson which comes with 20 sheets of glassine. Is that the way to go? Whatäs your take on this? Sorry if you have covered this in one of your videos, but I can't seem to find any.
As always, you’re the one for printers! Thanks for your video. I do understand why my office printer is so long to be ready when I use it from times to times ;)
Hi thanks for the video about photo printing, I was thinking in get a printer and beginning my business printing for many photographers around my city but isn't a good idea with all the money I have to spend and the printers problems
Oh it's not as scary as Jose makes it out to be. Photo printing at home is _way_ superior to using a lab. It's cheaper. The quality can be very, very high. I've been using Epson photo inkjets for almost 20 years now. An entire bookshelf in my office is filled with albums of Epson prints going back that same span. No fades, not even those matted, framed and displayed on walls. My current printer is an Epson ET-8550. This is a six color printer using the Claria dye set, and capable of prints up to 13x19. Ink for this comes from Epson in big bottles and is dirt cheap. Full color prints are cheaper per page than B&W laser printer. I print normally to ultra gloss photo paper. Get this from Costco as Kirkland paper. It is the same as Epson Premium Ultra Gloss but is a much less expensive. As for plugged print heads it does happen. If a cleaning cycle doesn't clear it then more manual attention is necessary. The reality is that it's messy but isn't hard to do. Take a sheet of paper towel. Fold that into a 8 layer strip about an inch wide. Spray Windex on it and slip it under the print head assembly. Hold the two ends of the strip. Pull up a bit so the strip comes in contact with the print head. Pull back and forth just as if you're buffing your leather dress shoes. Lots of ink comes onto the strip. Repeat once more. Print a test page. It should be all good. For me, the heavy cleaning outlined above is necessary maybe twice a year.
Thank you for the explanation Jose. I am interested in purchasing a Pro 100 so that I can really learn and get down the print process. It will also be nice to be able to make some prints for home. Although my plan was to set up the printer with the original print cartridges and then buy the 32oz ICC Squezy Ultimate Refill Kit with Resetter, 8 Ready to Fill Canon Cartridges from precision colors. I figured it would help out in this learning process. I am curious how the quality in these inks are compared to the Canon ink. You mention that these inks will fade much faster then the canon inks. In that sense is it worth it to use these inks for this printer? I like saving money but would be bummed to see the prints I make fade super fast. Thank you for the amazing videos. I also requested to join your Facebook group.
Well you can not compare OEM canon dye ink to anything out there. Nothing can compete with CANON OEM inks. The weakest point of ANY dye 3rd party ink set is Longevity whether it is PC or anything else you can find. PC PRO-100 inks are 1/8 the cost of OEM so..... expect the same level or loss in longevity. However the color matching is quite good. If you home environment is prone to having high levels of OZONE your UNPROTECTED print will fade in a mater of a couple of Moths or weeks. IN MY HOME i DO NOT HAVE ANY FADING PROBLEMS. So the bottom line is if you want to print for fun then yes go ahead and get the refill kit and you should really learn to modify your original CLI-42 carts. OR... use only OEM inks. That's it. By the way the carts you get are NOT CLI-42 but modified and flushed CLI-8 carts relabeled. They are structurally identical but the chips are for the CANON PRO9000 You still need to transfer your OEM chips to the corresponding matching color cart. So the take home message is you can not have your cake and eat it too.
Jose Rodriguez thank you so much my friend. You have cleared the air and I imagine this is a common question you have answered a lot. I still might grab the printer and the 3rd party ink to really learn print making. It will give me more freedom to calibrate my monitor, soft proof and try to lock down all my settings. Now I need to debate weather I should bump up to the Pro 10 and of pigment inks would be better. Side by side are you more happy with Pigment ink? Also is it just as easy to convert for 3rd party ink? And with these printers if you are using a third party ink is it possible to switch back and forth from your OEM to 3rd party inks even before they have run out? For example if you want to make a quality long lasting print but are currently set up with 3rd party ink. My ultimate goal for my home printer is to get good at preparing for print so I can print in Labs and also for some personal prints. I wouldn’t mind selling some prints but it sounds like OEM ink is the only fair way to print for customers. I wouldn’t mind printing for myself with the 3rd party ink though. Thank you for all this amazing information. Feel free to respond whenever its Convenient for you! I’m going to spend the next couple days watching all your videos because they’re so informative. I find most of my questions answered by watching them.
Looking for advice: currently use a Canon PRo9000 and looking to upgrade. I like Canon. What would suggest as a next step up? Of curse, most sales peoples ay the 1000; I print photos quite a bit, but do not belong to a galley yet. Help.
Jose, did I understand you correctly that even prints made with Precision Colors inks using a Pro-100 will only last 1/10 as long as those made with Canon OEM inks due to fading?
Yes. Assuming the same paper and same environmental conditions? Yes. Except ALL, Every single 3rd party dye ink for the PRO-100 or any canon or epson dye ink print will suffer from 1/8 of 1/10 the longevity of OEM. So rather than 70-80 years you can get 7-8 years on the wall unprotected. NONE of my printed work has shown any discernible fading. Frame under glass and you will have Decades of fade free performance. But again, how could you possible play 1/8th of OEM costs and then expect to get similar performance??? Of course you won't.
Ah, so the key word and reason for the fade by using even Precision Colors inks is "unprotected." That's the real lesson: "Frame under glass" and you don't have to worry. Thanks for the clarification, Jose.
For example. Make two 13 x 19 and put one on the outside Bare taped to your front window and only on your wall in a glass frame and guess which one will fade quicker? We have to be more realistic with our expectations.
Thanks for the video, I have a question please: What is the ink quantity consumed in a photo compared to an ISO page occupying 5% of the sheet? Some people say a photo's ink quantity is equivalent to twenty ISO 5% page, is that true? Or does a photo consumes more than that? Thanks.
As a photographer Iv'e been printing for 25 years I use a Pro 200 for pro printing at least once a week maybe make a 6x4 just to keep it happy and it gives me no trouble but expect a yearly ink cost of at least three to five hundred maybe more, if that seems a lot you probaly can't afford it. I have several others and a Canon MG5750 for general office work and print half decent photos on it with third party inks, seriously.! but they will fade unless you put them in a box away from light. Printing does not have to be expensive there are plenty of used printers out there for not much money. Buy matched inks and papers from a trusted supplier and stick with it, don't mix and match or you will get into trouble. My next purchase will be the Canon Pro-1000 but at five hundred for a set of inks, they are expensive and I wouldn't dream of using third party inks on anything but a cheap A4 jobby I learned my lesson the hard way.
Thank you so much for all the good info. I was wondering if you could recommend a printer for me. I am a scrapbooker. I make photo albums of family memories and also do other album projects. It can be difficult to find the right type and enough 12” x 12” paper for my projects. Digital paper is becoming the way to go, so I thought I would invest in a printer so I can print the paper needed at home. After watching your videos I have learned a lot. I have been looking at the Epson P800. It may be too much of a machine for my needs?? Can you recommend a printer that will be a good match for me?? Thank you.
None of the photo prints we use can print on 12x12 unless you create a custom paper size. It is nt a standard Photo Size. A CANON Pro-10 or EPSON P600 or the new P700 will suit you perfectly.
Jose, can you tell the difference between 8 and 10 color prints? Is there a real difference between? I'm seriously consider buying PRO 200 which has 8 color system.
You are not going to see a vast difference. Realize that the dye p200 is designed for glossy and all shiny media. The pigment ink printer can print on all types of media specially matte fine art media and produce the deep blacks on it that a dye ink will not be able to achieve.
@@lev_anni correct. You need Pigment Matte Black to achieve deep blacks which dye black ink simply cannot provide. However if you are using Fine Art Baryta type papers then the pro200 will work beautifully. It just can't compete with the Pro300 but ONLY when it comes to MATTE media.
Hi Jose, you mentioned two ink manufacturers in the US Who are they? For an Epson 3880 what ink you recommend beside OEM? Is Cone ink OK? Thanks for the good advice
They do not sell to individuals. CONE has its inks made in the orient for them exclusively. They are probably the bests inks for EPSON Photo printers next to OEM! Image Specialists or IS and I believe STS ( I am not 100% of the name ) is the other one. But again, they only sell to retailers and not individuals. Rjettec sells OCP inks from Germany. CONE and PC are much better in the gloss and color matching department. Just my opinion.
I work in a lab, and sometimes customers tell me they're thinking about a home printer. I just pull up the epson ink cost calculator app (by epson, so add about a 3rd to prices to get the real ones), and show them how they'd be paying more in ink alone in some cases, compared to the prices we charge.
JOSE... I NEED YOURE HELP BRO!! I finally opened this PRO 1000. During the setup I made it to installing the printer head. I installed it and an error code popped on saying unplug the power cord and contact the service center. Error code: B204.
the best advice i've ever heard. am planning to buy a printer and watching all this youtube reviews whatis the best printer in the market. i wish you have an affiliate link that i can click on. Thanks for the video.
Hi Jose. Just a question regarding the ink supplied with the pro 1000. In the UK canon 100s and 10s comes with "start up ink carts" meaning they are not full 14 ml ink in them. Just enough to get you started. My question is this. Does the pro1000 come with "start up carts" or full 80ml carts. Many thanks.
Here in the USA it is the opposite. The PRO100 carts are actually filled a bit more than subsequent carts you buy later. PRO10 weigh the full weight of 33 grams. PRO1000 come with 80ml carts and weigh 117 grams which is FULL 80ml.
Hi, thanks for your insight. If I want to print on a backlit paper? What other printer technolgy you can offer me in home budget like those inkjet printer, around 1000 usd? I heared latex printers or laser prints can work it. Do you have any specific model up to your mind?
I normally do not recommend actual printers because it's like me telling you what car to buy. As long as the MEDIA you are using is compatible with ink jet printing then any of the currently available Photo Printing models available from EPSON or CANON will work just fine.
@@cheo1949 I look after good operation cost. In you videos you tell the costs are high. So I was wondering if you can suggest some model that is good price prt page printed
I realised this when I was buying a cheap printer, the ink dries out and it also depends on the climate you keep the printer in . Not to hot not too cold . I work for a company who fix printers and it’s the same issue all the time , the users don’t know how to keep their machines running . That’ why businesses are using laser jets instead , it’s powder that that gets charged and melted on to the paper and that’s why you can keep them longer without running . But they are not made for photo printing …
I considered to buy a pro1000 but after watching a few of your videos i decided to dont buy one. Luckily i could afford one but that would be wasted money, i would use it far to rarely. Thank you Jose and greetings from Germany !
Thanks for the honest and great insight. Truly appreciate it.... May i ask you, how do these TONER based printers perform, in terms of clogging and maintenance, especially these high end color printers like Canon iR C3120. I have seen their color reproduction and print quality is pretty professional level.
i am leaning towards the PRO-100... but the cheaper Pixma 8792 --- seems like a good printer for half the price . Are there other PROS vs Cons to the cheaper Pixma? I had a Mark II 9000 .... was good photo printer for long while.. but, print head died...
@@cheo1949 I will hold out tilli can get a deal on the Pro-100.... seems like a better choice for me. I am an artist, print designer and amateur digital photographer. I had a Mark II 9000 was great.. but print head died.....
Hey sir, I have a question. When you mean “Cleaning cycles” what do you mean exactly?, it’s like you need to buy new ink to change it or what?. Sorry I’m amateur and I’m a little bit confused
It's a built in internal process the printer performs. If Nozzle check shows nozzles are blocked due to not using often you run the "CLEANING CYCLE" form the driver Maintenance Tab to clear them.
@@cheo1949 would you kindly happen to know anything about canvas printing, the best type and printer to use...best printer and cheaper but good quality as well... I'll appreciate
Any 13" and larger PIGMENT ink Printer CANON or EPSON will produce the best results. Most CANVAS is Matte so you need a printer that uses MATTE BLACK ink NOT DYE based inks.
This is very true in 2019. I got a Pro-10 for free from Canon. I haven't bother to set it up yet because of all the reasons you have mentioned. I can't even sell it for $100. A $600 printer sitting in a box LOL. I just have no time.
Thanks for your videos. How about using printer few times a year? For example one month of intensive printing and four month pause? Is it harmful for a printer? Is it possible to change ink to 3thrd party just for a cleaning time and use OEM’s again? Greetings from Poland.
I thought long and hard about the switch to precision colors for my pro 100. Over 90% of my printing ends up bound in books for my own viewing pleasure and sharing with friends. Fading is not a consideration and the cost is an extension of my photography hobby. Any prints I display get changed as new images come along to compete for wall space. Maybe the fascination with 100 year archival quality is over rated for home printing. So far my pro 100 seems remarkably tolerant to neglect, with 2 or 3 week printing holidays and no clogs. Its a wonderful machine.
Stop worrying about that! Of course inks that cost 1/8th of OEM will not last as long before physical fading is noticed. Albums will protect your prints for decades!!! I have about 20 prints I truly care about. They are darkroom silver prints!!! The digital ones can always be reprinted. Most will outlive me! Even without extra protection! And by the way I have several thousand prints! I am going to have to do another video on this subject and hopefully clear the air about this once and for all but I highly doubt it.
I hand clean my Epson R2400 with paper towels, swabs and alcool - running the cleaning cycles without this hand cleaning of the jets and other parts will only burn ink like crazy. I use the CIS kits for ink, huge savings. All-in-all it is an expensive process no matter what you do. If you use dyes instead of pigment, it is cheaper but less resistant to UV.
You shouldn't have to be doing so many nozzle cleanings on the R2400. If you just print at least two to three times a week you will avoid having to perform any other kind of a cleaning process. CIS units can also introduce ink delivery problems if not height adjusted perfectly.
Wow! I was considering making a sizable investment into a Cannon professional model printer 🖨 and of course before hand 🖐🏻 I watched many RUclips videos on the subject of different models and testimonials and LUCKILY came across your video on this very subject. Not only have you Sir saved me a sizable amount of money 💰 but many hours and Aggravation!!! Well, needless too say I decided against buying the Cannon but will instead purchase another Prime lens. I never even considered all the maintenance and after thought in owning such a high end product, thank you. I’m a photographer, that’s what I do! Printing is an afterthought. Being a photographer I’m away to various parts of the world 🌎 often and for extended periods of time, and since I have many expensive photography related items in my home I never would even consider too have a neighbor enter too run a maintenance on a printer 🖨 .... So! Bottom line - No Printer ( lots of💰 time & aggravation saved) add a Prime - Thank You 🙏🏻
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I have watched so many photographers talk about printing and none of them mentioned this stuff. Thank you so much Jose. Appreciate you.
That's why I do this. Thank you.
For real bro. I just shot downtown Manhattan last night and stumbled on his videos prior to swiping my card. Love this info.
This is true
I've been in this inkjet business for almost 30 years now. This is the BEST I've heard on printers!!! Jose, you have just successfully UNCLOGGED my brain!! Thanks!
Wow! Thank you sir.
Good message Jose. From your recommendation I have committed to printing from my Cannon Pro10 once every 60 hours or less. This has made me a better printer. I am getting my prints right the first time now (most of the time). It also makes me a better photographer because I now feel I need to go out and photograph at least once a week so I have something new to print. This has been a better investment than a new lens or camera.
There is a system to all of this. The only variables are really your images! The "System" should be reproducing your images as they are.
Great advise! I used a couple of years to decide to buy the Canon Pro 1000 due to the fact I knew it would take commitment both money wise and actual printing. It also took some time to accept the printing costs. But when you do; its the best hobby! Holding a printed picture you are happy with, is next level!
Starting almost twenty years with an Epson 1290, it´s been a long and steep learning curve for me, and from my experience your advice to beginners is spot on. I think your videos are amazing.
Thank you. I an Epson 1280 though.
@@cheo1949 I think they were the same, just different numbers in Europe and USA
Absolutely don’t need a second wife... Good job Jose, thanks for that honest video. We need more of these kind of videos on RUclips.
The Pro1000 is an expensive mistress!!
This video was an eye-opener for me. I was considering getting one of the pro printers so I can print from home and negate the need for a lab. After seeing this video, I changed my mind. Yes labs are expensive, but so are pro printers!
Thank you Jose
They are a huge commitment but...they give you instant results.
Having said that, I just received my prints from an international lab, and they were (slightly) damaged during transportation. Now that I am more aware of pros and cons of each option (lab and home), I might consider home printing again but only after more thorough research.
I just discovered you. Great video! I followed the path you described, exactly. Had no idea what I was getting into when I bought my Epson 7890 (24”) beast in 2014. Found out quickly about color management , inks, papers and canvases and heavy duty cleaning. Now, I use only the best and most expensive supplies. I was shocked to learn that I could spend $1200 for a full load of ink, that I didn’t need anyway. But luck fell my way and in six weeks earnings had covered the initial outlay of $1850. Now it will cost twice that to replace it. Today, I have over five years on that printer and it is still chugging along nicely, fingers crossed. I thought I was starting a photography business. Now, years later, I consider myself a professional printer and still an amateur photographer. But, printing pays the bills for my hobby. I will be following you on RUclips. Thanks.
Thanks. I switched to the Epson ET-8550 A3+ all in one printer. The ink cost is next to nothing. I can afford to print every day
I just purchased the same printer and I absolutely love it!
Just starting with the same printer (8180 in my country). I US you have Color Precision pigment ink set available, as Jose have mentioned and even hosted this set's author on his channel. In Europe, one company from Austria provides very same prpduct + service. Six pigment inks plus ready-mwde ICC profiles for most of papers made by three most popular brands and for their brand papers. Farbwerke - worth to try unless you fill ypur Epson with mix of OEM hybrid inkset. Worth every panny/grosz/öre/eurocent spent.
Your knowledge is deeply appreciated, I now understand where I went wrong earlier in this venture. Thank you so much Jose.
This guy is so... So enjoyable to watch and listen to.
He's so natural or something. I can't explain it.
Subscribed!
Thank you. Most say I am long winded and boring!
Thanks, I'm the new owner of a Canon Pro-300 so this comes in handy. Several years ago I owned an Epson R2400, I absolutely hated that printer to the point where I switched to Dye Sub. This is my second time around with Ink-Jet printers, wish me luck !
I use ink jet plumber on my Mac based on Jose’s advice. No problems at all.
I have had NO success in training the cat to run print jobs.
Thanks for the feed back! The person who wrote the code to this program is also supposed to be working on a windows version. Don't give up on the cat just yet!
I got my cat to run print jobs but they were very paw quality.
@@markrigg6623 bahaahahahahahaaha
Everyone knows cats are stupid, the dog will do it with only a day's training.
I'm really glad I saw this video, as I was about to buy a photo quality printer. Saved by the bell, so to speak.
Great.
Thank you for this video. I just bought the 1000. Thankfully, I've been a hobby artist for 4 years and have over 100 paintings laying around that are quality to make prints, my online audience has expanded over the years too and I plan on going to local art stores shows to sell. I'm so happy with this printer and I can't wait to dive in to it!
What’s your IG ?
Bought half-pro Epson 8550. I was ready for what you said before I found it, just by "thinking in advance". But not everybody is technical person, so your rare advice can be a real treasure.
My case contains two factors. 1. I had no more time time and patience for "trial and error" with another and another labs. 2. I'm in camera club. There is no problem for me to have some job for my printer three times a week. And if I need longer journey, i have few people in my city, to whom I can give my printer to take care. Care not by nonproductive "clean heads" prints but to make pictures.
Not only I can print like I need, but also provide perfectly consulted prints for others.
I also am in a camera club. That is why I am looking for a printer. I print a lot to get it right. If I had a printer here I could do a small print first to see if the photo is printing correct. I am tired of running to the lab and I don't have time to wait for photos.
Dear Jose, we are watching this from Belgium and having a blast! Thank you for all your wisdom and experience, it’s incredibly helpful.
Thank you! I lived in Belgium from 1980-1983 when I was in the ARMY. Our son was born there. We lived near Mons.
How cool! What was your favorite beer? Do you think it is possible to print a photobook with the canon pro1000, or is it more just for fine art prints? All my best
I though Stella was a Belgian actress 😆 The PRO1000 definitely can.
Me too!
Thanks a lot. I was thinking about buying another printer or buy a new print head. I will continue to have 'my' Printer' print my photos. It's a two hour drive to the Printer.
I just ordered an epson XP 15000. I hope it works out ok. I can feel an obsession coming. I’ll be frequenting your channel. Subscribed.
Hope you plan on only using OEM inks.
Be aware there are no refillable carts with auto reset chips. Single use chips are available but cost about $10-12 each you add ink and well, it does not make much financial sense compared to OEM.
@@cheo1949 Thank you. Yes, I am going to use OEM inks. I will print every week on a 4x6 size sheet to help conserve ink and prevent clogging. I plan on saving the 8x10 and 13x19 prints for my "best" work that I feel warrants a bigger print. If you feel like another approach at saving ink costs would be more effective I would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you, and happy printing!
Thank you Jose.
We're in Lockdown down in NZ
I'm just about to buy the Canon Pro 1000, your information gives fruit for thought
I've had this Canon Pro 9500 since about 2003. Used it for printing building drawings just use a drat to save the ink and of course photos. My understanding is it is night and day the quality in the difference of the printers.
Advantage of the pro 1000 I would have is I can print A2 for the drawings plus the quantity for photos. So I need to print a 4x6 print every second day.
In our lockdown Ive been making picture frames from demolition native timber(we're not allowed to cut Native Timber any more, which is great) also been using farm fence battens native and there is a rustic look to them. They really look cool
You've given me fruit for thought that for sure
Cheers
Solid Advice. Thank you. Your delivery is so good and honest. Based on your knowledge I will not be trying to print at home and will be having my high-end digital images printed out of house. Any advice on what service to use would be most welcome. I photograph in color and black & white. Have a great day and hello from Rochester NY.
I had no idea you have to print very 2 days at least or your printer will clog ! Your video are very very helpful ! Thank you Jose !!!
The reality of Ink Jet Printing.
This has been a good informative video for my consideration! I am looking to get into the print business, and looking for it as a business venture than a personal one.
Talking to a few local photographers in my area, there is a definite demand for prints, on various media. I expect a printer to be printing daily
I've never had a clog in my epson 3800. Let it sit for 3 years once when i took a break from my hobby. Fired it up, ran a cleaning... Worked great.
I just knew there were a few caveats about printing from home. Thank you so much for putting this out!!!
Excellent topic! Thanks for the education that has made me plan my entry into printing instead of just leaping into it blind.
That's the idea. Every single day I read about printer owners who had not idea what they were getting into. I've had plenty of successes and plenty of regrets. Just trying to keep others from the same regrets I've had to deal with.
Wow. Thank you so much for this. I’m just gonna get a scanner for my 35mm film and rely on a lab for my very limited work for now
Very informative. I have a couple of multi function inkjets. They are generally used for text an copying black and white documents. When I do want to print images, I find I generally have to run the cleaning cycle 4 times to ensure all nozzles are clear and the printer is functioning optimally. Your video makes it clear I have to think carefully about how I would use and maintain a dedicated photo printer like a CANON ProGraf 1000.
Thank you Jose. Lots of food for thought. I live in the mountains, two hours from Panama City in Panama. There are labs in the city, quality hit or miss, but uggh, at 72 years old, uggh, the drive. We do have the local equivalent of UPS here, it may make it reasonable to use a printer in the city. If I order from the States, the consistently-high-quality prints would come right to my door, but with a two or three week delay and a lot of international shipping costs.
I would like to start selling my prints. But at the moment I have zero customers! Although I am salivating over the Pro 2100, I'm thinking that home printing, with all the pampering, may have to wait until I have a larger client base. I may just have to figure out the logistics of using a "local" lab.
Alternatively, since I want the "fun" of being married to my own printer, I guess I could plan on printing a couple prints per week to build up an inventory even though I don't have a customer. Even if I eventually sold one out of every couple/few that I printed, it might be worth it.
So many variables. So many options. So many compromises. Yup, just like being married. But I wouldn't have it any other way.
Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for this great video. Saludos.
I like the relationship analogy 😆
Thanks for making this video, Very important things in here to remember ✌️
Thank you for taking the time to reaffirm this hard truth once and for all. I was just considering buying a new print head for my petrified Pro-100. Question... for those of us who want to make occasional prints in home and are simply unable to keep an ink jet happy, are you aware of any laser printers that do a respectable job? I am a "B&W only" photographer who would gladly sacrifice a little quality at this point in return for a printer that doesn't mind sitting idle for extended periods of time. I keep hearing about newer "image quality" laser units being better than expected on good paper, but it's tough to find working floor models anywhere to get a sample print made. Just wondering if you might have any insight? Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world, wishing you the best.
Man...should have seen this video before I got my Pro 1...lol...j/k...I love it...at this point I feel like my photos aren't done until I print.
Maybe you should!d say ANY dedicated photo printer! They can be the thing since sliced bread OR a Money Pit if not used optimally.
Thank you for all the useful information. Appears I am not ready for all the commitments involved!
Smart move.
I have a Canon Pro9000 I bought about 5 years ago, and hadn't turned it on for about a year. I figured it wouldn't work and I'd finally have some extra shelf space when I tossed it. I didn't feel too bad as I didn't use it much and was planning on farming my printing out anyway. To my shock, it printed perfectly!
Backfire?
@@cheo1949 Liked your video, but unsure what this comment means.
I just came across your video about maintenance. I am considering the new imagePROGRAF PRO-300 - so I will be sure to contact Canon before I purchase it. My main purpose is to make art quality prints of my watercolors paintings and I like the ability to print 13 x 19. I contacted the third party ink supplier I use for my little Canon Pixma, and they said they won't be carrying the ink cartridges for this model. SO - I already knew I'd be getting Canon ink. Thank you for your information -
Watch last weeks Live Stream for a Full Live set up of that printer and some eye opening info. You might want to reconsider the PRO 300
@@cheo1949 I'll try to find that - I see there is one starting in a few minutes:)
I just invested in the canon pro 100 and I am so thankful for your message..
Enjoy that PRO100.
Good advice. Do you think that the epson ecotanks are any good? Some use 4 colors only another one uses 6 colors. I know that they are inexpensive to use, but with 4 colors will they print quality photos? I don't need more that 8x10 prints.
I was hoping to get a Canon pro printer and was comparing the 10 to the 100 a few months ago. That's how I found your channel. I decided to wait. I definitely want to get into home printing eventually and will actually probably get the Pro-1000. But I'm waiting until I can pair it with a desktop computer (an iMac preferably) that can be on all the time to run scheduled prints every 2 days to avoid purges, and I'll also be wanting to hook it up to a backup power system so in the event of a power surge or outage the printer will never ever ever lose power, yet another trigger for a purge. I'll also probably do Prismacolor refills, but that's another big decision since I would rather use archival-quality inks that last as long as possible. But then there is the domino effect you've spoken of regarding every time you change a cartridge the whole printer does a purge, so… Refilling two sets of carts to switch between may be unavoidable. Your channel truly is so valuable. I've learned so much. Apart from putting me off, it's made me want to wait until I can do it RIGHT.
Just so you know...we now know there is no way to disable or avoid the Auto maintenance cleaning cycles. They will occur as needed whether you print or not. Printing will not prevent them. In fact it is printing that creates the need for them. Residue is produced inside the print head during printing and that needs to be flushed out periodically as needed and detected by the printer.
Do not use compatible carts on your Canon printer. If you must refill..only refill your original cartridges. Watch more of my CANON printer videos for all the info concerning that. I have video playlists for each printer.
My printer requires a cleaning cycle every time I turn it on to print a shipping label. I need a new set of inks about every 5 photos I print. Holy expensive printer. Such tiny ink tanks too. 3 complete sets of ink, and I might have a total of 30 prints out of it. Never noticed a clog though.
Many thanks for the advice. Made my mind up for me. The lab will still be printing my work.
Often that is the best option
Thank you for this. I try to tell people this all of the time. I am a photographer. I do not have a home printer. Even for my test prints, I use MPIX. There is no good reason for me to own a home printer when a lab is so cheap. I have done the math and I cannot print at home for cheaper than using a lab. Way back when the Epson R series was new, I had a home printer. Not anymore. I wish people understood why this is really not a good option for someone that is not printing and selling multiple photos per day.
Precision Colors says in his review of the Pro 100 archival quality is "largely a non issue if the correct papers are chosen. Using swellable papers like HP Premium Plus or Ilford Galerie line puts this pretty close to the pigments. If 50 + years is not enough well then move onto pigment inks." Would it be suitable using PC inks and aforementioned papers for photo exhibitions?
Thank you for your insights and breaking down the real costs.
My pleasure!
Well... that's what i needed to hear but not what i wanted to hear. Thanks. Thumbs up!
You're great. Thanks for sharing your obvious experience with printing.
Thanks you for watching Jack! Take care!
Was looking at Pro-10 and Pro-100 but after all this, I saved a lot and got XP-15000....Wife can print photos for house and I can do my oversized prints for airbrush stencils and copies of my other artwork mediums...being able to test my 11x17 true to size prior to making a mistake will be amazing
Buenos días, usted piensa que es buena idea comprar una pixma pro 10 en 2021,.la encontré con un amigo por muy buen precio
Si. Definitivamente Conprala!!!!
I wish I were watching your videos on a 5 hour earlier, now I'm already acquired pro 1000 I visited the reflection between 300 and 1000 model, self-reflection that the ink cartridge size is bigger and probably more reasonable because the previous home printers have always become stuck and one of the colors has run out when I printed the bigger picture.
I hope I came up with the right choice. The campaign price of 1000 euros attracted the choice.
Saw an Epson printer at an e-waste place, picked it up for $90. not a good investment, the print head was totally clogged and nothing I did could remedy it, and I wasn't going to pay upwards of $1500 for a new print head (it was the Epson Stylus Pro 9890). I salvaged all the motors and boards out of it and put the whole thing in the dumpster. This was 2 weeks ago. Last week we got a HP Z3200 44" from an ebay seller, local pickup, for $300. Needs a new carriage belt which should get here tomorrow. This should be a much better deal. The inks are cheaper, the heads are easily replaceable and not all colors in one unit either. Wish me luck :)
1. No problem if you have money.
2. This is for people who are serious about art and photography.
Once you take your profession serious you'll realize this printer is no problem at all. If you want a printer for documents etc etc. Go get a toy printer.
I have to agree.
Does anyone know if the Pro 200 from Canon also does cleaning cycles automatically? I mean, it´s a DYE printer, and it doesn´t have any maintenance-box inside?
You sir are a hero. Thank you for providing the exact information I needed.
Well it seems Inkjet Plumber doesn't work on Big Sur and the developer is no longer maintaining it... Any other options out there that does the same thing? I haven't printed in over a year as I had stopped shooting but now that I'm fully vaccinated, I feel like I can go back out and start shooting street and documentary images again. I'm currently using an Epson 1400 with the Cone Color Inks and eventually plan on setting up my second 1400 with their Peizography b/w inks - any recommendations on how to get something like this utility going? My hope is to print more frequently but for now I'm easing into it.
Qimage one has a tool called Unclog Tool. It creates a custom purge sheet using your printer's specific and then you schedule it to print as you wish. Check my video description for a promo code link and you get 10% off plus they are offering another 10% off discount.
I learned a lot by watching you channel. I used to develop B&W prints, I invested in all the equipment. loved it but digital took over. I am not sure I can invest in pro printer yet. I am waiting for the best deal to come out. I would like to refill the ink, It makes sense to refill the carts. So an auto cycle every 2 days, sounds like a lot. What can you do if you are away more than a couple of weeks.I would hate to ruin the print head.
I use QIMAGE to print a purge image at whatever schedule I choose.
Thank you, was almost buying a pro 10 for a fourth of the price, that was the catch. Not so sure I want to do it anymore
Jose, I’m glad I found your channel, it has helped me already. I bought a Canon pro 10. I have quite a bit of family prints that I want to make, most of them smaller prints, 8x10, but mostly 4x6 or 5x7. What is your rough estimate of the cost of printing your own prints, compared to a online pro printer like MPIX. Using OEM paper and inks, do you think it’s 10% more expensive or 20% more expensive (or more) to print your own prints? I have printed some with the pro 10 and I am very happy as the skin tones are even better than what I’ve gotten from online pro labs. Thanks!!
There is a very good print cost comparison between printers at the RedRiver Paper Site.
It will be much more expensive initially due to the cost of all the things you will need to really produce top quality prints. Printer, Inks, Monitor Calibrator, Equipment to produce custom paper printing profiles. But one you get set up and you are able to print consistently with great results, it will be much more reasonable. Instant gratification and the ability to instantly be able to reprint something after a slight adjustment trumps any savings you might get from an external lab.
Excellent video. My Pro1 still in box as I await a chunk of time to get it set up and learn to use it. I reckon some people could benefit from your relationship advice too :)
Good luck setting it up!
Thanks for your very helpful and clear advice.
I havent found ive had to print as often as is stated here. Had a 3800 epson for years and now run an epson artisan 1430 and P 800. Printing once a month has caused no problems with any of these printers and theres been a few occasions where I havent printed for 2 months and still havent had clogging. Maybe its because they are located in a basement that is very cool all year round .? Could it be higher temperatures cause clogging when printers are left idle? I sold my old 3800 and tested it after 4 months being idle and it was fine.
Environment is very important. If you have a slightly above average levels of humidity your printer will basically hardly ever clog. But again I stress that using the printer often will keep it healthier than not using it often.
Hi, thanks for the video. Do you know where can i download the icc profiles for Canons PRO 1000 papers so i can import them to lightroom and capture one to soft proof with?
Do you mean the OEM paper profiles? They are installed along with the driver. You don't "Import" profiles to any editing Application. They already live in your hard drive and should be automatically accessed when to tell you printing module to control color.
@@cheo1949 where would I find them? I am on a Mac.
@@cheo1949 Thanks for the reply. Yes, i am looking for those. I need to import them into Capture one so that i can "soft proof" within capture one.
Where do i find them on my hard drive?
Thank you.
Thanks for the video. Appreciate it . Its an eye opener. I hardly give my time to edit photos, forget about printing. Let shutterfly take care of my prints.
Glad it helped make up your minds. I would not make it as a commission only printer seller.
Hi Jose. I have been binge watching your videos as I wanted to learn more about ink jet printing. I have one of those all-in-one printers Epson XP530 which I use to print on their photo papers (A4 and 10x15 cm2) from time to time but nothing dedicated yet (been eyeing Canon Pro 100s). In any case, I would like to ask for your advice about a good solution on storing prints (as there is a limited space on my walls :)). I have seen A3 boxes by Canson which comes with 20 sheets of glassine. Is that the way to go? Whatäs your take on this? Sorry if you have covered this in one of your videos, but I can't seem to find any.
That type of storage box would be as ideal as one could get. I don't even go that far and just place an m in my empty paper boxes.
As always, you’re the one for printers! Thanks for your video. I do understand why my office printer is so long to be ready when I use it from times to times ;)
Unfortunately they need daily use to keep them happy!
Very wise and very helpful. Thank you.
Hi thanks for the video about photo printing, I was thinking in get a printer and beginning my business printing for many photographers around my city but isn't a good idea with all the money I have to spend and the printers problems
Oh it's not as scary as Jose makes it out to be. Photo printing at home is _way_ superior to using a lab. It's cheaper. The quality can be very, very high. I've been using Epson photo inkjets for almost 20 years now. An entire bookshelf in my office is filled with albums of Epson prints going back that same span. No fades, not even those matted, framed and displayed on walls.
My current printer is an Epson ET-8550. This is a six color printer using the Claria dye set, and capable of prints up to 13x19. Ink for this comes from Epson in big bottles and is dirt cheap. Full color prints are cheaper per page than B&W laser printer.
I print normally to ultra gloss photo paper. Get this from Costco as Kirkland paper. It is the same as Epson Premium Ultra Gloss but is a much less expensive.
As for plugged print heads it does happen. If a cleaning cycle doesn't clear it then more manual attention is necessary. The reality is that it's messy but isn't hard to do. Take a sheet of paper towel. Fold that into a 8 layer strip about an inch wide. Spray Windex on it and slip it under the print head assembly.
Hold the two ends of the strip. Pull up a bit so the strip comes in contact with the print head. Pull back and forth just as if you're buffing your leather dress shoes. Lots of ink comes onto the strip. Repeat once more. Print a test page. It should be all good.
For me, the heavy cleaning outlined above is necessary maybe twice a year.
Thank you for the explanation Jose. I am interested in purchasing a Pro 100 so that I can really learn and get down the print process. It will also be nice to be able to make some prints for home. Although my plan was to set up the printer with the original print cartridges and then buy the 32oz ICC Squezy Ultimate Refill Kit
with Resetter, 8 Ready to Fill Canon Cartridges from precision colors. I figured it would help out in this learning process. I am curious how the quality in these inks are compared to the Canon ink. You mention that these inks will fade much faster then the canon inks. In that sense is it worth it to use these inks for this printer? I like saving money but would be bummed to see the prints I make fade super fast. Thank you for the amazing videos. I also requested to join your Facebook group.
Well you can not compare OEM canon dye ink to anything out there. Nothing can compete with CANON OEM inks.
The weakest point of ANY dye 3rd party ink set is Longevity whether it is PC or anything else you can find.
PC PRO-100 inks are 1/8 the cost of OEM so..... expect the same level or loss in longevity. However the color matching is quite good.
If you home environment is prone to having high levels of OZONE your UNPROTECTED print will fade in a mater of a couple of Moths or weeks. IN MY HOME i DO NOT HAVE ANY FADING PROBLEMS. So the bottom line is if you want to print for fun then yes go ahead and get the refill kit and you should really learn to modify your original CLI-42 carts.
OR... use only OEM inks. That's it.
By the way the carts you get are NOT CLI-42 but modified and flushed CLI-8 carts relabeled. They are structurally identical but the chips are for the CANON PRO9000 You still need to transfer your OEM chips to the corresponding matching color cart. So the take home message is you can not have your cake and eat it too.
Jose Rodriguez thank you so much my friend. You have cleared the air and I imagine this is a common question you have answered a lot. I still might grab the printer and the 3rd party ink to really learn print making. It will give me more freedom to calibrate my monitor, soft proof and try to lock down all my settings. Now I need to debate weather I should bump up to the Pro 10 and of pigment inks would be better. Side by side are you more happy with Pigment ink? Also is it just as easy to convert for 3rd party ink? And with these printers if you are using a third party ink is it possible to switch back and forth from your OEM to 3rd party inks even before they have run out? For example if you want to make a quality long lasting print but are currently set up with 3rd party ink. My ultimate goal for my home printer is to get good at preparing for print so I can print in Labs and also for some personal prints. I wouldn’t mind selling some prints but it sounds like OEM ink is the only fair way to print for customers. I wouldn’t mind printing for myself with the 3rd party ink though. Thank you for all this amazing information. Feel free to respond whenever its Convenient for you! I’m going to spend the next couple days watching all your videos because they’re so informative. I find most of my questions answered by watching them.
Looking for advice: currently use a Canon PRo9000 and looking to upgrade. I like Canon. What would suggest as a next step up? Of curse, most sales peoples ay the 1000; I print photos quite a bit, but do not belong to a galley yet. Help.
PRO-300 is excellent I hear as well as the new PRO200.
Jose, did I understand you correctly that even prints made with Precision Colors inks using a Pro-100 will only last 1/10 as long as those made with Canon OEM inks due to fading?
Yes. Assuming the same paper and same environmental conditions? Yes. Except ALL, Every single 3rd party dye ink for the PRO-100 or any canon or epson dye ink print will suffer from 1/8 of 1/10 the longevity of OEM. So rather than 70-80 years you can get 7-8 years on the wall unprotected. NONE of my printed work has shown any discernible fading. Frame under glass and you will have Decades of fade free performance. But again, how could you possible play 1/8th of OEM costs and then expect to get similar performance??? Of course you won't.
Ah, so the key word and reason for the fade by using even Precision Colors inks is "unprotected." That's the real lesson: "Frame under glass" and you don't have to worry. Thanks for the clarification, Jose.
For example. Make two 13 x 19 and put one on the outside Bare taped to your front window and only on your wall in a glass frame and guess which one will fade quicker? We have to be more realistic with our expectations.
Thanks for the video, I have a question please: What is the ink quantity consumed in a photo compared to an ISO page occupying 5% of the sheet? Some people say a photo's ink quantity is equivalent to twenty ISO 5% page, is that true? Or does a photo consumes more than that? Thanks.
I am afraid I don't know what an ISO page is.
As a photographer Iv'e been printing for 25 years I use a Pro 200 for pro printing at least once a week maybe make a 6x4 just to keep it happy and it gives me no trouble but expect a yearly ink cost of at least three to five hundred maybe more, if that seems a lot you probaly can't afford it. I have several others and a Canon MG5750 for general office work and print half decent photos on it with third party inks, seriously.! but they will fade unless you put them in a box away from light. Printing does not have to be expensive there are plenty of used printers out there for not much money. Buy matched inks and papers from a trusted supplier and stick with it, don't mix and match or you will get into trouble.
My next purchase will be the Canon Pro-1000 but at five hundred for a set of inks, they are expensive and I wouldn't dream of using third party inks on anything but a cheap A4 jobby I learned my lesson the hard way.
Thank you so much for all the good info. I was wondering if you could recommend a printer for me. I am a scrapbooker. I make photo albums of family memories and also do other album projects. It can be difficult to find the right type and enough 12” x 12” paper for my projects. Digital paper is becoming the way to go, so I thought I would invest in a printer so I can print the paper needed at home. After watching your videos I have learned a
lot. I have been looking at the Epson P800. It may be too much of a machine for my needs??
Can you recommend a printer that will be a good match for me?? Thank you.
None of the photo prints we use can print on 12x12 unless you create a custom paper size. It is nt a standard Photo Size. A CANON Pro-10 or EPSON P600 or the new P700 will suit you perfectly.
Jose, can you tell the difference between 8 and 10 color prints? Is there a real difference between? I'm seriously consider buying PRO 200 which has 8 color system.
You are not going to see a vast difference. Realize that the dye p200 is designed for glossy and all shiny media. The pigment ink printer can print on all types of media specially matte fine art media and produce the deep blacks on it that a dye ink will not be able to achieve.
@@cheo1949 So p200 can't print on matte finished paper? or print quality will not be same as p300?
@@lev_anni correct. You need Pigment Matte Black to achieve deep blacks which dye black ink simply cannot provide. However if you are using Fine Art Baryta type papers then the pro200 will work beautifully. It just can't compete with the Pro300 but ONLY when it comes to MATTE media.
@@cheo1949 Got it! Thanks a lot Jose!!
Hi Jose, you mentioned two ink manufacturers in the US Who are they? For an Epson 3880 what ink you recommend beside OEM? Is Cone ink OK? Thanks for the good advice
They do not sell to individuals. CONE has its inks made in the orient for them exclusively. They are probably the bests inks for EPSON Photo printers next to OEM! Image Specialists or IS and I believe STS ( I am not 100% of the name ) is the other one. But again, they only sell to retailers and not individuals. Rjettec sells OCP inks from Germany. CONE and PC are much better in the gloss and color matching department. Just my opinion.
Thanks Jose. Is it anybody who sells good carts for 3880 empty or loaded?
You mean refillable? Many resellers do. No one I know sells them prefilled.
thank you. i was thinking of getting one but now i will look for a good lab
Often it is the best option!
I work in a lab, and sometimes customers tell me they're thinking about a home printer. I just pull up the epson ink cost calculator app (by epson, so add about a 3rd to prices to get the real ones), and show them how they'd be paying more in ink alone in some cases, compared to the prices we charge.
One of the most expensive liquids around today.
JOSE... I NEED YOURE HELP BRO!! I finally opened this PRO 1000. During the setup I made it to installing the printer head. I installed it and an error code popped on saying unplug the power cord and contact the service center. Error code: B204.
Keep reinstalling it until it begins to do the ink recharge. If nothing works you need to call CANON and hope this is a new until with warranty.
Thank you for sharing this truth.
the best advice i've ever heard. am planning to buy a printer and watching all this youtube reviews whatis the best printer in the market. i wish you have an affiliate link that i can click on. Thanks for the video.
I live in Japan and pay 34 usd per one A3 (giclee), and thats lowest I could find, thats why I consider buying pro 1000
You will be printing A3 for about $3 plus media!
@@cheo1949 thanks for taking time and answering. And by the way, great channel, looking forward for more videos!
Thanks!
Hi Jose. Just a question regarding the ink supplied with the pro 1000. In the UK canon 100s and 10s comes with "start up ink carts" meaning they are not full 14 ml ink in them. Just enough to get you started. My question is this. Does the pro1000 come with "start up carts" or full 80ml carts. Many thanks.
Here in the USA it is the opposite.
The PRO100 carts are actually filled a bit more than subsequent carts you buy later. PRO10 weigh the full weight of 33 grams. PRO1000 come with 80ml carts and weigh 117 grams which is FULL 80ml.
@@cheo1949 thank you so much for help.
Hi, thanks for your insight. If I want to print on a backlit paper? What other printer technolgy you can offer me in home budget like those inkjet printer, around 1000 usd? I heared latex printers or laser prints can work it. Do you have any specific model up to your mind?
I normally do not recommend actual printers because it's like me telling you what car to buy.
As long as the MEDIA you are using is compatible with ink jet printing then any of the currently available Photo Printing models available from EPSON or CANON will work just fine.
@@cheo1949 I look after good operation cost. In you videos you tell the costs are high. So I was wondering if you can suggest some model that is good price prt page printed
home printing is okay as long as we use canon G500/G600 printers :D
I realised this when I was buying a cheap printer, the ink dries out and it also depends on the climate you keep the printer in . Not to hot not too cold . I work for a company who fix printers and it’s the same issue all the time , the users don’t know how to keep their machines running . That’ why businesses are using laser jets instead , it’s powder that that gets charged and melted on to the paper and that’s why you can keep them longer without running . But they are not made for photo printing …
*Words of wisdom.* Thanks Jose.
Thank you!
I considered to buy a pro1000 but after watching a few of your videos i decided to dont buy one.
Luckily i could afford one but that would be wasted money, i would use it far to rarely.
Thank you Jose and greetings from Germany !
Good decision. Definitely not one for the causal user.
Thanks for the honest and great insight. Truly appreciate it.... May i ask you, how do these TONER based printers perform, in terms of clogging and maintenance, especially these high end color printers like Canon iR C3120. I have seen their color reproduction and print quality is pretty professional level.
Are those LASER printer? I'm sorry but I am clueless when it comes to units like that model.
i am leaning towards the PRO-100... but the cheaper Pixma 8792 --- seems like a good printer for half the price .
Are there other PROS vs Cons to the cheaper Pixma? I had a Mark II 9000 .... was good photo printer for long while.. but, print head died...
The pro100 is mechanically much better built. Mine will he 7 years in use this august.
@@cheo1949 I will hold out tilli can get a deal on the Pro-100.... seems like a better choice for me. I am an artist, print designer and amateur digital photographer. I had a Mark II 9000 was great.. but print head died.....
You can't go wrong with PRO100.
Ive been looking at buying a photography printer, great info thank you
Glad it was helpful!
@@cheo1949 I think I have narrowed it down to the Canon image Prograf Pro 1000, so many to chose from
Hey sir, I have a question. When you mean “Cleaning cycles” what do you mean exactly?, it’s like you need to buy new ink to change it or what?. Sorry I’m amateur and I’m a little bit confused
It's a built in internal process the printer performs. If Nozzle check shows nozzles are blocked due to not using often you run the "CLEANING CYCLE" form the driver Maintenance Tab to clear them.
@@cheo1949 thank you sir
Thank you so much Jose. Bless up!!
You are welcome.
@@cheo1949 would you kindly happen to know anything about canvas printing, the best type and printer to use...best printer and cheaper but good quality as well... I'll appreciate
Any 13" and larger PIGMENT ink Printer CANON or EPSON will produce the best results. Most CANVAS is Matte so you need a printer that uses MATTE BLACK ink NOT DYE based inks.
This is very true in 2019. I got a Pro-10 for free from Canon. I haven't bother to set it up yet because of all the reasons you have mentioned. I can't even sell it for $100. A $600 printer sitting in a box LOL. I just have no time.
The rubber rollers will eventually deteriorate. So try to come up with something to do with it.
@@cheo1949 oh wow. It's been with me for almost 2 years. I imagined it would be okay if it was still sealed in the box.
@@cheo1949 if that would the case. I might as well use it. LOL
Yes. Set it up. Check out my Basic Printing PLAYLIST. And my PRO10 Playlists .
I'm glad I clicked, thank you for these notes
Welcome!
Thanks for your videos. How about using printer few times a year? For example one month of intensive printing and four month pause?
Is it harmful for a printer? Is it possible to change ink to 3thrd party just for a cleaning time and use OEM’s again?
Greetings from Poland.
I thought long and hard about the switch to precision colors for my pro 100. Over 90% of my printing ends up bound in books for my own viewing pleasure and sharing with friends. Fading is not a consideration and the cost is an extension of my photography hobby. Any prints I display get changed as new images come along to compete for wall space. Maybe the fascination with 100 year archival quality is over rated for home printing. So far my pro 100 seems remarkably tolerant to neglect, with 2 or 3 week printing holidays and no clogs. Its a wonderful machine.
Stop worrying about that! Of course inks that cost 1/8th of OEM will not last as long before physical fading is noticed. Albums will protect your prints for decades!!! I have about 20 prints I truly care about. They are darkroom silver prints!!! The digital ones can always be reprinted. Most will outlive me! Even without extra protection! And by the way I have several thousand prints! I am going to have to do another video on this subject and hopefully clear the air about this once and for all but I highly doubt it.
I hand clean my Epson R2400 with paper towels, swabs and alcool - running the cleaning cycles without this hand cleaning of the jets and other parts will only burn ink like crazy. I use the CIS kits for ink, huge savings. All-in-all it is an expensive process no matter what you do. If you use dyes instead of pigment, it is cheaper but less resistant to UV.
You shouldn't have to be doing so many nozzle cleanings on the R2400. If you just print at least two to three times a week you will avoid having to perform any other kind of a cleaning process. CIS units can also introduce ink delivery problems if not height adjusted perfectly.
Is Canon pixma pro 100s good for every now or then printing?
Sure but no printer is really good for now and then printing. You will waste more ink on cleaning cycles than you actual use to produce prints.
Thank you for the honesty. Saved your website as now I know where to buy ink for my epson 7600
Thanks
Wow! I was considering making a sizable investment into a Cannon professional model printer 🖨 and of course before hand 🖐🏻 I watched many RUclips videos on the subject of different models and testimonials and LUCKILY came across your video on this very subject. Not only have you Sir saved me a sizable amount of money 💰 but many hours and Aggravation!!! Well, needless too say I decided against buying the Cannon but will instead purchase another Prime lens. I never even considered all the maintenance and after thought in owning such a high end product, thank you. I’m a photographer, that’s what I do! Printing is an afterthought. Being a photographer I’m away to various parts of the world 🌎 often and for extended periods of time, and since I have many expensive photography related items in my home I never would even consider too have a neighbor enter too run a maintenance on a printer 🖨 .... So! Bottom line - No Printer ( lots of💰 time & aggravation saved) add a Prime - Thank You 🙏🏻
Thanks Jose much appreciated
I love watching him. Too funny!! 🤣🤣