It's nice to see my cabs being used to such good effect - I made them as part of a scratch build project, so never got to see how they fitted with the Bachmann Desiros. It looks like it's quite a good fit, which is nice! Good work.
Thanks. And more to the point, thanks for creating this project. It never crossed my mind that I would want a model of this train until I started working in the area where these operated and started travelling on a daily basis between the my digs and place of work. Despite the window configuration being incorrect on the bodyside, I could see the similarity in the box-type body profile and thought it could work. I commissioned Electra Rail to produce bodyside vinyl's for the bodyside but during preparation I quite liked the choice of base red I used and finished the model off with commissioned (logos, numbers) and home made (yellow door surround) transfers.
Thanks. The original plan was to use pre-printed vinyl's to finish off the livery but the model started to look so well after its first coat of red paint that I decided to go all the way without the vinyl's. I still have these vinyl's and a different train may appear with them one day!
Thanks. When I started this project the set did have five carriages. However, the track on the layout wasn't completed and ultimately a siding in one of the bay platforms of a station I was building counldn't take a five car train. As such both my class 458/5 and 707 were trunkated to 4-car. The 458/5 was virtually complete but the 707 was at an early enough stage for the fifth car to be donated to anothe rproject. As for the toilet, the initial plan was for the livery to be applied using vinyls commissioned through Electra Rail. These would have had a blanked out window in the area where the toilet is. However, during preparation for the vinyls I found I was perfectly happy with the base colour I had sprayed the model with and just carried on painting. Maybe one day I will create the transfers to rectify this element (there will be two areas where this will be required). One of the reasons for producing this model was because I spent the last two years working away from home on a project in Brentford which involved a lot of rail travel and on a daily basis I was on 707s and 458/5s. As such I had to make one!
Thank-you. I'm glad he enjoys them. I haven't edited a video for a while but have plenty of rushes filmed so I must get on with editing and posting another video. The class 707 is one of the Seimens products which all have a boxy body profile. The base model is a Bachmann class 350 with the cab cut off and the pantograph removed. Yes, the window/door configuration is a little different but I'm using modellers licence for a train that wasn't available at the time. A new pair of cabs was 3D printed by Shapeways (not a cheap job). everything was put together and repainted. I was building this as a 5-car train as per the prototype but had to loose one car to make it fit in a particular siding on my layout. Moving to the question of how to get one, the only way currently is through the purchase of a kit made by CMAC models 9these now make the body with the correct window/door configuration) but these will need to be motorised, glazed and painted - not an easy job. If you want something that looks remotely like it there is an alternative option. Whilst working on the project I agreed a design with Electra Rail Graphics for a self adhesive vinyl in this livery which I decided not to use at the last minute. These are still available as a fictional South West Trains livery - Red Class 707 on their website - link in bracket ( electrarail.co.uk/class-350--450-emu---fictitious-liveries---oo-5065-p.asp ). These can be stuck onto the Bachmann class 350 and generally second hand class 350s are available. Electra Graphics have recently been taken over and checking their new website it is still available. I have no affiliate link to the business but I have had good products from them in the past so am happy to recommend them. I hope this is of use. Cheers. Paul
The layout is basically 4 circuits of varyinf sizes, one large terminus station (currently only track at present), one four platform station (under construction) and a 2 platform station (again strack only at present). there is also a small diesel depot, three road EMU sidings and shed, and container terminal. The largest circuit goes to a 2 1/2 circumference helix leading to a fiddle yard the size of the scenic level above. In future will see an additional level with town scene and steam railway. Since this footage was filmed the firstsignals werehard-wired in place and connected to an automated station announcement system and ballasting in this area has started. More work to do in this area in January!
This will be staying in SWT colours. Aside from it being a tricky livery to paint (and so I would not wish to paint over it), it was also the livery these trains carried when I travelled on them, albeit with the South Western Railway branding
@@SkipseyTrains Good choice! I think it’ll also represent a little piece of history by having it in its original livery. Are you planning to add a carriage? To make it 5 car like the real thing? Or is that a logistical nightmare? (I don’t know much about model making / but I admire the skill and workmanship which goes into the intricate details of the builds - you’ve done a great job)
@@AnthonyFurnival I had originally planned to make a 5-car version. Indeed i some of the early shots prior to full repainting this set did have a fifth car and I had already decorated the interior. However, the lines I wanted to run the set on had a couple of stations where I could not get platforms long enough for 5-car trains. I can cope with this on a through platform but one was a bay platform so it did not work. However, plans are in place for changes to the layout which may see the possibility of being able to extend this bay platform (at the expense of the triangle of track). So in short, never say never!
That's correct @Smokey (I spent a couple of years travelling on them) but making that amendment is a little bit beyond me. I did consider linking the windows in pairs with a black band but thought better of it. After all, if memory serves me correct the centre cars are 2x large windows, pair of doors, 2x large windows, pair of doors, 2x large windows, so the doors would probably be located slightly more central too.
Hi Siyan. I found the cabs on Shapeways. However, they aren't cheap! Cab: www.shapeways.com/product/F77PFJQWH/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-cab-oo-gauge?optionId=90515415&li=marketplace Valance: www.shapeways.com/product/2UUZFCZSC/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-valance-couplin?optionId=63795322&li=shops
@@SRV777 I marked up the line whereI wanted to remove the cab with masking tape and carefully cut along the line with a razor saw. The lighting is enclosed within a black casing which has to be removed. The board to which the lighting is attached also needs trimming slightly. The back of the new cab also needs trimming a little. The paintwork was mainly by hand using SWT blue, orange and red and warning panel yellow from Phoenix Precision. This was mainly to the cab area and doors with the main bodywork sprayed halfords enamel red. Ther roof is phoenix Precision roof grey. The transfers were from Precision Labels. However, the numbering to the front cab was not very robust so these came from Railtec. When I started this project I did have a fifth carriage but the whole set didn't fit in certain bay platforms so this is the reason it is only four-car.
Yeah they are. When I started this project I had a fifth car available as well. Unfortunately, at the time of construction, the bay platform I had intended running them into could only fit 4-cars so the set was truncated to 4-cars. i may have to go back to a fifth car now that the layout has changed and it can take a 5-car train!
Hi. I have made some models and others are commissioned and made for me. the 707 is one I made because at the time I was travelling on them most weekdays. However, it took me ages to make so I'm not looking to repeat it (indeed I haven't carried out a project of this size for a few years now). The cabs were extremely expensive alone so 200 wouldn't get anywhere near the cost. To get a 707 now you would be better of with the CMAC resin print and getting a model railway pro to build a motorising it (I'm no professional i'm afraid). Cheers. Paul
Unfortunately I don't have either a 365 or 465. I do have some 466s but as this current layout build is fully DCC operated i need to find out how to convert them to DCC.
@@KRVTrains I have the following Electrostars: South Eastern white with light blue doors (375), Southern (377), Southern/NHS (377),Thameslink Blue (377 - similar to the South Eastern Blue), London Overground (378) and Gatwick Express Red (387). They are all DC but in the new year will be hard wired to work on the DCC layout and i'll put a film together. There are a few other videos of Electrostars on the channel but so far none on the current scenc level of the layout.
@@Plaxton_presidents You're right, the 458/5 and 707 do have five carriages and I did start making them on both sets. Unfortunately, the models were built before the scenic layer of the layout and they proved to be too long for a particular siding I wanted to use them in, hence they were reduced to 4 carriages. There is still an option to increase them to their correct lengths as I still have carriages to carry this out if necessary.
Cheers. Yes, the window/door configuration isn't right (there are less windows on the 707) but this is beyond my ability. It still maintains the boxy profile of the base model which I like.
The base model is a Bachmann class 350 whilst the cab ( www.shapeways.com/product/F77PFJQWH/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-cab-oo-gauge?optionId=90515415&li=marketplace ) and dummy coupling ( www.shapeways.com/product/2UUZFCZSC/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-valance-couplin?optionId=63795322&li=marketplace ) is 3D printed from Shapeways. When I started the project I was making it the full 5 carriages long but the set didn't fit in a couple of platforms I intended them to go into so chose to recuse the set to 4-car s.
Very true. When I started on this project I did have a five car rake. However, during construction of the layout it became apparant that it would not fit in the bay platform of one of the stations which was my3 plan for this set all along. As such, the fifth car was donated to a second class 444 conversion and ths set was truncated to a 4-car.
Hi. Yes I know. There is a bit of modellers licence at play here. The base model is a class 350 which has a similar body profile but slightly different window/door configuration. I was going to put a black blank window transfer ib this area at one point but haven't got round to it (there is a window which has an electronic cabinet partly over it which is blacked out). Also, this set did have a fifth carriage when the project started (just like my 458/5)but I found that a bay platform on my layout that I wanted it to serve (the one at the beginning of the video) couldn't take the full 5-car train length so it was truncated. Whilst carrying out this project I did have the benefit of travelling on these trains whilst going to and from work so whilst I had a source of first hand information it was also the reason I wanted to model this train too.
@@railwaychannel66745 Never say never. I have a couple of projects in the queue at the moment which may see the light of day in the next twelve months.
This model is made up of a repainted Bachmann class 350 (although a class 450 would do) with a replacement cab glued in place. The cabs arer 3D printed from Shapeways but they are a bit pricey! www.shapeways.com/product/F77PFJQWH/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-cab-oo-gauge?optionId=90515415&li=marketplace
Fantastic models! Even better you did them yourself, well done!
Thank-you. Most appreciated.
It's nice to see my cabs being used to such good effect - I made them as part of a scratch build project, so never got to see how they fitted with the Bachmann Desiros. It looks like it's quite a good fit, which is nice! Good work.
Thanks. And more to the point, thanks for creating this project. It never crossed my mind that I would want a model of this train until I started working in the area where these operated and started travelling on a daily basis between the my digs and place of work. Despite the window configuration being incorrect on the bodyside, I could see the similarity in the box-type body profile and thought it could work. I commissioned Electra Rail to produce bodyside vinyl's for the bodyside but during preparation I quite liked the choice of base red I used and finished the model off with commissioned (logos, numbers) and home made (yellow door surround) transfers.
Very impressive paintwork!
Thank you! Cheers!
Before you explained how you built it I thought it was something you purchased online that it was that good! Well done
Thanks. The original plan was to use pre-printed vinyl's to finish off the livery but the model started to look so well after its first coat of red paint that I decided to go all the way without the vinyl's. I still have these vinyl's and a different train may appear with them one day!
Amazing! Lost for words. Excellent model 👌
Thank-you. I'm very pleased with it. It brings back memories of traversing the Hounslow loop on those very hard seats!
In the name of pendolinos that class 707 10/10 for me awesome skipsey
Thanks South West Productions. Most appreciated.
spot on!
Cheers
Nice video, but the 707 has a set of 5 carriages and has no toilet. But it looks like a nice model
Thanks. When I started this project the set did have five carriages. However, the track on the layout wasn't completed and ultimately a siding in one of the bay platforms of a station I was building counldn't take a five car train. As such both my class 458/5 and 707 were trunkated to 4-car. The 458/5 was virtually complete but the 707 was at an early enough stage for the fifth car to be donated to anothe rproject. As for the toilet, the initial plan was for the livery to be applied using vinyls commissioned through Electra Rail. These would have had a blanked out window in the area where the toilet is. However, during preparation for the vinyls I found I was perfectly happy with the base colour I had sprayed the model with and just carried on painting. Maybe one day I will create the transfers to rectify this element (there will be two areas where this will be required). One of the reasons for producing this model was because I spent the last two years working away from home on a project in Brentford which involved a lot of rail travel and on a daily basis I was on 707s and 458/5s. As such I had to make one!
My son watches your videos everyday ❤ he's asking how to get these trains 😂
Thank-you. I'm glad he enjoys them. I haven't edited a video for a while but have plenty of rushes filmed so I must get on with editing and posting another video. The class 707 is one of the Seimens products which all have a boxy body profile. The base model is a Bachmann class 350 with the cab cut off and the pantograph removed. Yes, the window/door configuration is a little different but I'm using modellers licence for a train that wasn't available at the time. A new pair of cabs was 3D printed by Shapeways (not a cheap job). everything was put together and repainted. I was building this as a 5-car train as per the prototype but had to loose one car to make it fit in a particular siding on my layout. Moving to the question of how to get one, the only way currently is through the purchase of a kit made by CMAC models 9these now make the body with the correct window/door configuration) but these will need to be motorised, glazed and painted - not an easy job. If you want something that looks remotely like it there is an alternative option. Whilst working on the project I agreed a design with Electra Rail Graphics for a self adhesive vinyl in this livery which I decided not to use at the last minute. These are still available as a fictional South West Trains livery - Red Class 707 on their website - link in bracket ( electrarail.co.uk/class-350--450-emu---fictitious-liveries---oo-5065-p.asp ). These can be stuck onto the Bachmann class 350 and generally second hand class 350s are available. Electra Graphics have recently been taken over and checking their new website it is still available. I have no affiliate link to the business but I have had good products from them in the past so am happy to recommend them. I hope this is of use. Cheers. Paul
@@SkipseyTrains thank you for such a detailed message. We read every word of it, highly appreciate your passion, and enthusiasm!
That’s incredible!
Thank-you.
Wow that's awesome
Thanks.
That’s a great build!
Thankyou. I'm pleased with the way it turned out myself,
Nice build once again. Really looks great!
Thanks. That's most appreciated. I'm pleased with how well it is running too!
Great job, looks good.
Thanks.
Really nice
Thank-you/
good update keep posting updates up
Cheers ANFIELD ROAD IN THE LOFT
The class 707s are passing to Southeastern in Kent and Southeast London
Yeah. I saw the first pictures of two repainted sets earlier this week.
Looking goo, How much room is up there for the trains to run round?
Hi. I've not measured it but it ust be at least 6m long x 2m wide. I'll have to take some measurement in the new year!
The layout is basically 4 circuits of varyinf sizes, one large terminus station (currently only track at present), one four platform station (under construction) and a 2 platform station (again strack only at present). there is also a small diesel depot, three road EMU sidings and shed, and container terminal. The largest circuit goes to a 2 1/2 circumference helix leading to a fiddle yard the size of the scenic level above. In future will see an additional level with town scene and steam railway. Since this footage was filmed the firstsignals werehard-wired in place and connected to an automated station announcement system and ballasting in this area has started. More work to do in this area in January!
Nice video like deserved
Thanks Casper Trains
This amazing model looks like class 700
Looks good👍
Thanks Brecknock Valley
Umm my opinon is this this looks okay but camcorder are going to release a class 707 shell asometime
Yeah. It's the closest I could get to a 707 at the time I built it.
Imagine what Siemens would look at this.
hi
Nice! Will you be keeping it in SWT colours or will it be repainted now that the real things are going to Southeastern?
This will be staying in SWT colours. Aside from it being a tricky livery to paint (and so I would not wish to paint over it), it was also the livery these trains carried when I travelled on them, albeit with the South Western Railway branding
@@SkipseyTrains Good choice! I think it’ll also represent a little piece of history by having it in its original livery. Are you planning to add a carriage? To make it 5 car like the real thing? Or is that a logistical nightmare? (I don’t know much about model making / but I admire the skill and workmanship which goes into the intricate details of the builds - you’ve done a great job)
@@AnthonyFurnival I had originally planned to make a 5-car version. Indeed i some of the early shots prior to full repainting this set did have a fifth car and I had already decorated the interior. However, the lines I wanted to run the set on had a couple of stations where I could not get platforms long enough for 5-car trains. I can cope with this on a through platform but one was a bay platform so it did not work. However, plans are in place for changes to the layout which may see the possibility of being able to extend this bay platform (at the expense of the triangle of track). So in short, never say never!
@@SkipseyTrains sounds logistically complex - I have a lot of admiration for the skill shown by model makers.
Class 707 has 2 windows between the doors not 4
That's correct @Smokey (I spent a couple of years travelling on them) but making that amendment is a little bit beyond me. I did consider linking the windows in pairs with a black band but thought better of it. After all, if memory serves me correct the centre cars are 2x large windows, pair of doors, 2x large windows, pair of doors, 2x large windows, so the doors would probably be located slightly more central too.
Alr thanks
How did you print the front cab.
Hi Siyan. I found the cabs on Shapeways. However, they aren't cheap! Cab: www.shapeways.com/product/F77PFJQWH/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-cab-oo-gauge?optionId=90515415&li=marketplace Valance: www.shapeways.com/product/2UUZFCZSC/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-valance-couplin?optionId=63795322&li=shops
@@SkipseyTrains Cheers! Thanks for the reply. Good looking trains on your layout👍
@@SkipseyTrains how did you cut the 350 head off and how didn you paint and what clours did you use.
@@SRV777 I marked up the line whereI wanted to remove the cab with masking tape and carefully cut along the line with a razor saw. The lighting is enclosed within a black casing which has to be removed. The board to which the lighting is attached also needs trimming slightly. The back of the new cab also needs trimming a little. The paintwork was mainly by hand using SWT blue, orange and red and warning panel yellow from Phoenix Precision. This was mainly to the cab area and doors with the main bodywork sprayed halfords enamel red. Ther roof is phoenix Precision roof grey. The transfers were from Precision Labels. However, the numbering to the front cab was not very robust so these came from Railtec. When I started this project I did have a fifth carriage but the whole set didn't fit in certain bay platforms so this is the reason it is only four-car.
Very nice , but aren't they 5car units , ?
Yeah they are. When I started this project I had a fifth car available as well. Unfortunately, at the time of construction, the bay platform I had intended running them into could only fit 4-cars so the set was truncated to 4-cars. i may have to go back to a fifth car now that the layout has changed and it can take a 5-car train!
Noice vid
Thank-you
Awsome
Thanks
Do u make the models ur self and if I do can I buy thet 707 for 200
Hi. I have made some models and others are commissioned and made for me. the 707 is one I made because at the time I was travelling on them most weekdays. However, it took me ages to make so I'm not looking to repeat it (indeed I haven't carried out a project of this size for a few years now). The cabs were extremely expensive alone so 200 wouldn't get anywhere near the cost. To get a 707 now you would be better of with the CMAC resin print and getting a model railway pro to build a motorising it (I'm no professional i'm afraid). Cheers. Paul
In the next video can u do the class 465
I mean 365
Unfortunately I don't have either a 365 or 465. I do have some 466s but as this current layout build is fully DCC operated i need to find out how to convert them to DCC.
They maybe the class 375 in southeastern Blue colour
@@KRVTrains I have the following Electrostars: South Eastern white with light blue doors (375), Southern (377), Southern/NHS (377),Thameslink Blue (377 - similar to the South Eastern Blue), London Overground (378) and Gatwick Express Red (387). They are all DC but in the new year will be hard wired to work on the DCC layout and i'll put a film together. There are a few other videos of Electrostars on the channel but so far none on the current scenc level of the layout.
Ok
I’m pretty sure the 456 and 707 has 5 coaches
My mistake class 458
@@Plaxton_presidents You're right, the 458/5 and 707 do have five carriages and I did start making them on both sets. Unfortunately, the models were built before the scenic layer of the layout and they proved to be too long for a particular siding I wanted to use them in, hence they were reduced to 4 carriages. There is still an option to increase them to their correct lengths as I still have carriages to carry this out if necessary.
Alr thanks for the reply!
@@Plaxton_presidents No problem.
La rueda del ⚙️Destino 🤔⚙️
windows look abit off
but other than that its great
Cheers. Yes, the window/door configuration isn't right (there are less windows on the 707) but this is beyond my ability. It still maintains the boxy profile of the base model which I like.
@@SkipseyTrains go advanced with welding XD
Keep up the good work
@@itsdanguo0519 LOL. I'll look at welding after I master soldering!!!! Cheers
the sides looks more like a 450
Where can I find this
The base model is a Bachmann class 350 whilst the cab ( www.shapeways.com/product/F77PFJQWH/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-cab-oo-gauge?optionId=90515415&li=marketplace ) and dummy coupling ( www.shapeways.com/product/2UUZFCZSC/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-valance-couplin?optionId=63795322&li=marketplace ) is 3D printed from Shapeways. When I started the project I was making it the full 5 carriages long but the set didn't fit in a couple of platforms I intended them to go into so chose to recuse the set to 4-car s.
Do did a nice model but is a 4 car
Very true. When I started on this project I did have a five car rake. However, during construction of the layout it became apparant that it would not fit in the bay platform of one of the stations which was my3 plan for this set all along. As such, the fifth car was donated to a second class 444 conversion and ths set was truncated to a 4-car.
Ok
The class 707 doesn’t have a toilet and it’s supposed to have a 5 cars but still I like it
Hi. Yes I know. There is a bit of modellers licence at play here. The base model is a class 350 which has a similar body profile but slightly different window/door configuration. I was going to put a black blank window transfer ib this area at one point but haven't got round to it (there is a window which has an electronic cabinet partly over it which is blacked out). Also, this set did have a fifth carriage when the project started (just like my 458/5)but I found that a bay platform on my layout that I wanted it to serve (the one at the beginning of the video) couldn't take the full 5-car train length so it was truncated. Whilst carrying out this project I did have the benefit of travelling on these trains whilst going to and from work so whilst I had a source of first hand information it was also the reason I wanted to model this train too.
Also, you're right. You have to cross your legs if you need the toilet!!!!
one day you should do a class 195 or 331
@@railwaychannel66745 Never say never. I have a couple of projects in the queue at the moment which may see the light of day in the next twelve months.
HOW DO I GET THESEEEEEEE
This model is made up of a repainted Bachmann class 350 (although a class 450 would do) with a replacement cab glued in place. The cabs arer 3D printed from Shapeways but they are a bit pricey! www.shapeways.com/product/F77PFJQWH/class-700-electric-multiple-unit-cab-oo-gauge?optionId=90515415&li=marketplace