Excellent work holding the camera so steady. Thank you for sharing this. Really good to see both drivers are okay. The announcers mentioned that both drivers were best friends. Imagine the conversations they will have about that in the future. Reminiscing
Except the roll hoop pierced the wall (and was torn off). His helmet had impact marks on it and his collar bone was broken by his shoulder bouncing off the asphalt.
and he got really lucky even in the beginning because one can see that Daly's broken wheel got super close to his head (even hit it but luckily not that hard)
Crazy A force pushes you away from track and a hard surface ... A bloody concrete wall pushes you into on coming traffic. Its primitive racing for its time
Adrenaline is THE best drug. Crazy how the body can make you forget the pain and somewhat the fear you get afterwards when adrenaline drops again... I crashed a gokart once at the end of the straight at 95 km/h. Locked the rear brakes and it jerked to the left and got grip again and accelerated into the wall at 75, (no seatbelt remember) slammed my helmet into the stearing wheel and proceeded to drive around a couple of laps until I went back to the pits when the adrenaline from driving and crashing went down... Luckily it wasn't a head on crash as I still had some sideways momentum but was still a hard hit...
I once saw a driver who was way in the lead hit the pit wall and stop in the middle of the circuit. The pack came charging up behind and he managed to get out and get over the wall and was standing up against the garages in the pit lane. Doctor was there when suddenly he screamed and fell down. Apparently the adrenaline kicked in for him to get out of the car to safety yet when it ebbed away he had pain in his leg and found he had broken his femur
I was there too. I came in from Washington DC for the race and was so bummed out after Saturday night (I knew that the track could not dry just from looking at the weepers coming out of turn 4) I resigned myself that I was going to miss the race having a late morning fligh back home. Then at the airport with the boarding pass on me and waiting for the flight to board...again, really bummed out...I looked at the weather slightly improving and made the panicked decision at about 11:15 am to book the latest (and expensive) flight out of Dallas/Fort Worth on my phone app and run out of the terminal and flag down a taxi to take me to the speedway...I don't regret that for a second, believe me...and I'll be back on August 27th. ANYWAY...thanks for enduring my airport story.
They should not let him leave the car like that without assistance. They should keep him still, stabilize his neck and wait for an ambulance. I am not a doctor but it is what I see in many other serious crashes in motorsports
Nice that the driver in the interview put his hands up and said it was his fault and apologised for the incident. You wouldn't see a formula 1 driver do that they just blame each other.
Road America race was great. As for the cock pits, I heard F1 is going to have some type of halo over the cockpits next season. Look for Indy cars to do the same soon.
No, isolate the cockpit from the rest of the car and surround it with fireproof materials. Also have an emergency eject on the canopy to allow for quick escapes.
I was in the tunnel under the track when Francois crashed...I remember it sounded like the tearing of cardboard really loud,...I headed back towards the track out of the tunnel and Emmo was out of his car (gorgeous black and gold JPS car) and it seemed he was angry...I looked over at the guardrail and could see it was split open...but I thought that's not enough room for a F1 car to go through....I knew by now Francois had been involved in a terrible crash. I walked over and they had sheets hung around the remains of the car and Francois....people were picking up parts...a mirror...it made me sick because I knew this was bad. A doctor or whatever walked out and puked...shaking his head....I knew that Cevert had gone through that split in the guardrail like a space 2-3 ft....he was gone....really put s damper on the Grand Prix race. I walked back towards Emmo and he wanted no part of it....slammed his helmet into the cockpit and sped off...anger was all I could see...I wasn't about to try and talk to him...terrible day.....for Elf, for Watkins Glen....for Jackie Stewart....
It's been said before, and I'll say it again: That Dallara chassis is one hell of a lifesaver! Shame it wasn't there for Dan Wheldon - and tragically ironic that he test-drove it prior to his fatal crash at Vegas (in the previous generation car).
I think yes, but looking at Dans crash, that shit looked like even the Dallara chassis wouldn't be able to help. He fucking flew sideways towards the wall.😭
@@jeffreyvences5746 Actually... I'm not so sure. Although his career was ended as a result, Dario Franchitti survived an eerily similar crash on a STREET circuit (ie. No SAFER barrier, no predefined grooves, tighter lines, etc) that was powerful enough to throw some of the catch fencing dozens of feet into the air (1:01 of this video: ruclips.net/video/j37p0e6daF0/видео.html). Despite his serious injuries, he's here today because of the Dallara DW12. He speaks about it in this video: ruclips.net/video/j37p0e6daF0/видео.html Do I think Dan Wheldon would have been seriously hurt? Absolutely! Do I think he would have died? That... I'm not so sure.
@TheEDFLegacy I think it's way to speculative. Wheldon hit his head, essentially dying of blunt force trauma. Franchietti suffered a concussion and spinal fractures. The only similarities are really that they both went into the catch fence. But the resemblance stopped there. What could had saved Wheldon was head protection systems like the HALO/windscreen we see today.
It wasn’t just the hitting the wall head first, when they first hit Newgraden got hit by Daily’s right front and then he got hit by his own right front wheel.
I used to be a track marshal, and I've seen it before... The driver will keep insisting he's perfectly fine right up to the point he passes out, which is why there were 2-3 guys standing around Josef with a hand actually on him. AS one of my instructors said, "Them fancy epaulette things ain't there for decoration. Them's *handles*."
Walter's Heart, that’s pretty much how it works. Right after you stop moving you are absolutely running on adrenaline. Like the other guy said, when you start to slow down, that’s when everything really starts to hurt.
i was there saturday but never got started. if i was there sunday the crash would have litterly happened in front of me. my seats were right where the first impact was.
The Holmatro team was the best. I just dont see the same with the AMR crews. There doesn't seem to be the same number of personnel or the same level of extrication experience. Maybe its just me
Still hard to watch though, I don’t get why crashes are entering its nice I guess but it’s not entertaining if someone gets killed or is seriously hurt
Isn't there supposed to be an ambo on the scene before the driver is even out of the car? I remember that from ... like, the 1970s, when I was a little kid. Connor Daly should *not* have been allowed to stand next to his car and lose consciousness like that.
Did they not see that being upside down wasnt the problem is was that the tire hit him in the head and then his head hit the barrier. Definitely need a Halo.
ina stormydaze - the rear tires lost traction in the turn, spinning the back of the car out... the driver then attempted to recover by steering into the skid (turned the front wheels back to the right to correct the slide). The front tires had great traction, however, resulting in an ‘over correction’, which cut his car straight in front of the car to the right of him. Classic mistake. Watch the horrible example of Gordon Smiley at Indianapolis (BAD fatal) and hear Jackie Stewart’s explanation. ruclips.net/video/a2uOwAFzKi4/видео.html
Just one more reason that these cars are death traps at these speeds. Just to fast. And, I know people hate it, but with a F1 style Halo, his head does not come close to the wall.
Fresno Pete Games - the f1 halo has to withstand over 26,100 lbs vertically to pass safety requirements. I cannot say if a device like it would have saved Dan, but I can say with certainty that it couldn't have made things worse. I personally would like to see the proposed indycar windscreen have a Halo like upper roll bar and be run in all open wheel series. (no middle support in the driver's vision)
I think they cant come to indie car racing because of the ange the oval is at it makes it so that the halo blocks way too much of the view that it does in f1
Nah, the NHRA Safety Safari is the best safety crew out there. They would have been rolling up as the cars came to a stop. There, ready, when they stopped.
It was initially a Saturday night race got rained out then this was on a Sunday it started to pour again cleaning up this wreck so they came back and finished the remaining of the race 2 months later in August and Graham Rahal beat out Hinchcliffe in a photo finish amazing last 10 laps
Because it's far too expensive to custom build a vehicle just for this use. Plus, the doors are specially reinforced to stand up to a potential racecar impact, which can and has happened in the past.
It was filled the first day but it got postponed for 5 hours cause of rain and they moved it to the next day and then after that crash it rained. So they moved the race to August which was 2 months away. So basically give or take 250 people was there.
It depends of the crash I guess in this accident, it would protect the driver, but would be seriously damaged, because the halo is connected on the sides of the santantonio
EMS Can't roll until the scene is considered safe or secured. And then, they need to be told that they're safe to roll. Believe me, it's a seriously shitty experience to know that you could be helping, but due to the scene not being considered safe, you have to sit back and hope no one dies before you're allowed in.
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Excellent work holding the camera so steady. Thank you for sharing this. Really good to see both drivers are okay. The announcers mentioned that both drivers were best friends. Imagine the conversations they will have about that in the future. Reminiscing
That’s amazing that both drivers were able to walk away from this. What a horrific accident.
So incredible he was able to survive this accident! You can literally watch his head just get slammed against the side of that wall. So scary to see.
Grow a brain pal. His head never impacted the wall. The brace on top of the cars is designed so that if they roll over their heads have room.
Except the roll hoop pierced the wall (and was torn off). His helmet had impact marks on it and his collar bone was broken by his shoulder bouncing off the asphalt.
NathanM4A1 rekt
and he got really lucky even in the beginning
because one can see that Daly's broken wheel got super close to his head (even hit it but luckily not that hard)
Isaac Villanada wish i could like this more than once
It is amazing that Joseph even survived!
4:09 the driver's head hits the top corner of the barrier. Good helmet.
The emergency truck has bull horns on top. Welcome to Texas.
Crazy
A force pushes you away from track and a hard surface ... A bloody concrete wall pushes you into on coming traffic. Its primitive racing for its time
Moose004 I wouldn’t want to be picked up by one of them after a wreck like that! That’s for sure.
@@kennethkilleen8758 "primitive" huh? Wow you are truly biased... i wonder what you watch???? Hmmmmmm lemme take a wild guess
The funny part about that is that safety truck isn't one the TMS safety truck. That is an indy truck
Its scary to see when adrenaline drops how its the only thing keeping you up and you just flop, glad hes ok.
I was injured so big once that my adrenaline lasted to the next day. Then it was pain city!!!
Adrenaline is THE best drug. Crazy how the body can make you forget the pain and somewhat the fear you get afterwards when adrenaline drops again... I crashed a gokart once at the end of the straight at 95 km/h. Locked the rear brakes and it jerked to the left and got grip again and accelerated into the wall at 75, (no seatbelt remember) slammed my helmet into the stearing wheel and proceeded to drive around a couple of laps until I went back to the pits when the adrenaline from driving and crashing went down... Luckily it wasn't a head on crash as I still had some sideways momentum but was still a hard hit...
I once saw a driver who was way in the lead hit the pit wall and stop in the middle of the circuit. The pack came charging up behind and he managed to get out and get over the wall and was standing up against the garages in the pit lane. Doctor was there when suddenly he screamed and fell down. Apparently the adrenaline kicked in for him to get out of the car to safety yet when it ebbed away he had pain in his leg and found he had broken his femur
Oh man that was bad. I'm sooo happy that Josef is racing at Road America. I was at this race.
I was there too. I came in from Washington DC for the race and was so bummed out after Saturday night (I knew that the track could not dry just from looking at the weepers coming out of turn 4) I resigned myself that I was going to miss the race having a late morning fligh back home. Then at the airport with the boarding pass on me and waiting for the flight to board...again, really bummed out...I looked at the weather slightly improving and made the panicked decision at about 11:15 am to book the latest (and expensive) flight out of Dallas/Fort Worth on my phone app and run out of the terminal and flag down a taxi to take me to the speedway...I don't regret that for a second, believe me...and I'll be back on August 27th. ANYWAY...thanks for enduring my airport story.
+pajasa62 I'll be there too. Hope Castroneves wins.
That was scary! Thanks for uploading.
I watched this live I was so scared for Josef especially when he collapsed outside the car onto the pavement he’s lucky to live through that
Wow. Hats off to the safety crew
They should not let him leave the car like that without assistance. They should keep him still, stabilize his neck and wait for an ambulance. I am not a doctor but it is what I see in many other serious crashes in motorsports
The safety measures in racing now is incredible, such a violent accident.
Nice that the driver in the interview put his hands up and said it was his fault and apologised for the incident. You wouldn't see a formula 1 driver do that they just blame each other.
I like Indycar but f1 is better
Everyone except for Sainz for sure
@@ReprogrammedToHate Also Vettel.
Jared Weston no
@@nunodasfonsecas And Leclerc
The designers of these tubs, good Frikin job.
If he survived this, he is immortal
What a wreck! How insane that he survived that! I've been thinking of printing an F1 car on my channel lately...
this crash makes me shake it always gives me chills.....literally................alot of thankful hearts after this........
oh my gosh, this scared me so bad, Josef is my favorite driver and i hate to see him get hurt like that. 💔
Love the Christmas tree lights on screen.
That could've been fatal
No shit?
Musicrecords10 no shit
No shit
No shit
Shit.
The incredible safety improvements that put into these cars.Horrible crash.
"My bad". Justified or not, that's a good reaction.
He completely cheated death
Yes I
Nah not really
@@jracer7189 you understood what he said?
Yeas but romain grosjean its better🤣
looking at the angle of impact at around 8:00 it appears like it was the roll bar that pierced the safer barrier
And that’s why the halo, as used in F1, should seriously be implemented in every formula or indi series
Halo's can't be used on banking. A better solution is the aeroscreen
I agree. Sure they could used on banking. They are good at keeping tires off of a pilots helmet.
@@lindahaugh4711 just watch alonso's and Grosjean's crash
Road America race was great. As for the cock pits, I heard F1 is going to have some type of halo over the cockpits next season. Look for Indy cars to do the same soon.
Race Fan The halo is extremely dangerous when it comes to fire/fire when upside down. Keep them the same, without a halo. Wrecks happen.
IndyCar should have a full canopy like a fighter jet. That way nothing like what happened to Daly or Justin Wilson can happen again.
So they could die in a fire? Genius
No, isolate the cockpit from the rest of the car and surround it with fireproof materials. Also have an emergency eject on the canopy to allow for quick escapes.
I was in the tunnel under the track when Francois crashed...I remember it sounded like the tearing of cardboard really loud,...I headed back towards the track out of the tunnel and Emmo was out of his car (gorgeous black and gold JPS car) and it seemed he was angry...I looked over at the guardrail and could see it was split open...but I thought that's not enough room for a F1 car to go through....I knew by now Francois had been involved in a terrible crash. I walked over and they had sheets hung around the remains of the car and Francois....people were picking up parts...a mirror...it made me sick because I knew this was bad. A doctor or whatever walked out and puked...shaking his head....I knew that Cevert had gone through that split in the guardrail like a space 2-3 ft....he was gone....really put s damper on the Grand Prix race. I walked back towards Emmo and he wanted no part of it....slammed his helmet into the cockpit and sped off...anger was all I could see...I wasn't about to try and talk to him...terrible day.....for Elf, for Watkins Glen....for Jackie Stewart....
This still gives me chills 😔
It's been said before, and I'll say it again: That Dallara chassis is one hell of a lifesaver! Shame it wasn't there for Dan Wheldon - and tragically ironic that he test-drove it prior to his fatal crash at Vegas (in the previous generation car).
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I think yes, but looking at Dans crash, that shit looked like even the Dallara chassis wouldn't be able to help. He fucking flew sideways towards the wall.😭
@@jeffreyvences5746 Actually... I'm not so sure. Although his career was ended as a result, Dario Franchitti survived an eerily similar crash on a STREET circuit (ie. No SAFER barrier, no predefined grooves, tighter lines, etc) that was powerful enough to throw some of the catch fencing dozens of feet into the air (1:01 of this video: ruclips.net/video/j37p0e6daF0/видео.html). Despite his serious injuries, he's here today because of the Dallara DW12. He speaks about it in this video: ruclips.net/video/j37p0e6daF0/видео.html
Do I think Dan Wheldon would have been seriously hurt? Absolutely! Do I think he would have died? That... I'm not so sure.
@@TheEDFLegacy I get what you're saying but comparing street circuit speeds to a heavily banked oval like Vegas, should be a substantial difference.
@TheEDFLegacy I think it's way to speculative. Wheldon hit his head, essentially dying of blunt force trauma. Franchietti suffered a concussion and spinal fractures. The only similarities are really that they both went into the catch fence. But the resemblance stopped there.
What could had saved Wheldon was head protection systems like the HALO/windscreen we see today.
Indy vs modern F1... indy rulezzz ! I love this races
What a cool American fire engines 😍
I was there right at the exit of turn 4 in the infield
We used to sit in turn 3 in the infield for many, many years at the Milwaukee Mile. Saw many wrecks. But none nearly as serious as this one.
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He was waving
Crew arrives just 15 seconds after his car stopped. Amazing response time!
He's like your gonna have to carry me
It wasn’t just the hitting the wall head first, when they first hit Newgraden got hit by Daily’s right front and then he got hit by his own right front wheel.
FRANK Then that's three moments that could've killed him easily.
Sick tow truck drift @ 1:05
Yes
Props to that flagman at 4:25 for being so quick on the draw with that yellow.
Guys I'm fine just help out of the car. I'm not, nope, nope, I'm not.
Pretty much exactly what happened. All of sudden it hit him what just happened.
I used to be a track marshal, and I've seen it before... The driver will keep insisting he's perfectly fine right up to the point he passes out, which is why there were 2-3 guys standing around Josef with a hand actually on him. AS one of my instructors said, "Them fancy epaulette things ain't there for decoration. Them's *handles*."
Aka “doing a blundell”
The adrenaline is thick during a race and then even more during a big crash. When it starts to wear off, you start to feel everything!
Walter's Heart, that’s pretty much how it works. Right after you stop moving you are absolutely running on adrenaline. Like the other guy said, when you start to slow down, that’s when everything really starts to hurt.
i was there saturday but never got started. if i was there sunday the crash would have litterly happened in front of me. my seats were right where the first impact was.
The Holmatro team was the best. I just dont see the same with the AMR crews. There doesn't seem to be the same number of personnel or the same level of extrication experience. Maybe its just me
Bill Buehner It’s the same team, just different sponsor
That's one thing as an f1 car thats more thrilling in indy car... You have some INSANE and high speed crashes 😂
Still hard to watch though, I don’t get why crashes are entering its nice I guess but it’s not entertaining if someone gets killed or is seriously hurt
Isn't to laugh
with all the debris im glad none of the drivers or people in the stands got hit with it
Not like the stands are full anyway
Thank God they were able to survive this horrible crash.
The 50 people in the stands saw a miracle.
Holmatro is the best in the business
The Homaltro (Now AMR) Safety Team are the best in the business.
Isn't there supposed to be an ambo on the scene before the driver is even out of the car? I remember that from ... like, the 1970s, when I was a little kid. Connor Daly should *not* have been allowed to stand next to his car and lose consciousness like that.
What a hit!!! Good to know that they are ok!!
Years too late
One thing that I find really good is the speed and professional of the safety teams
You record tv!
R.I.P. little angel
Car went dead right, broken half shaft? Steering?
Are you just straight up recording a TV?
I think car closer to the outside lost traction or something and that caused this whole accident Glad that the drivers are ok tho
*Conor Daly, not Coner
Thankfully they had safer equipment in place.. hate to see the after math of this let's say a decade ago.
Scarry crash. Damn that was so close
Did they not see that being upside down wasnt the problem is was that the tire hit him in the head and then his head hit the barrier. Definitely need a Halo.
That's a tough hit.
That’s got to be the best ending to the potentially the worst case scenario
what reaction?
What exactly does "get loose" mean like?!? It looks to me like he cut across him / side-checked him to try cut him off?!? :D :D
ina stormydaze - the rear tires lost traction in the turn, spinning the back of the car out... the driver then attempted to recover by steering into the skid (turned the front wheels back to the right to correct the slide). The front tires had great traction, however, resulting in an ‘over correction’, which cut his car straight in front of the car to the right of him. Classic mistake. Watch the horrible example of Gordon Smiley at Indianapolis (BAD fatal) and hear Jackie Stewart’s explanation.
ruclips.net/video/a2uOwAFzKi4/видео.html
They were friends, that is.
1:56 'moving his pecker round'.........he's good
GTiR23 he said moving his neck around..
Wow! Look at the empty stands. Does anyone watch anymore?
the race was on a Monday and people were at work
Omg..... That was some final destination shit.
Just one more reason that these cars are death traps at these speeds. Just to fast. And, I know people hate it, but with a F1 style Halo, his head does not come close to the wall.
Not sure it would of that roll hope got smashed to pieces n that's meant to be a strong area of the car too.
Fresno Pete Games - the f1 halo has to withstand over 26,100 lbs vertically to pass safety requirements.
I cannot say if a device like it would have saved Dan, but I can say with certainty that it couldn't have made things worse.
I personally would like to see the proposed indycar windscreen have a Halo like upper roll bar and be run in all open wheel series. (no middle support in the driver's vision)
Zoomer30 the roll hoop was enough on this occasion. Problem with Wheldon is he went high into a fence post and got unlucky.
I know a halo could’ve saved Justin Wilson. That tire would’ve hit the halo and saved his head rather than killing him I believe
I think they cant come to indie car racing because of the ange the oval is at it makes it so that the halo blocks way too much of the view that it does in f1
Here after Grosjean's lucky escape
What was his injuries after this anyone know?
All i can see is broken shoulder.
@@Leafs1 e ganhou uma corrida um mês depois no oval de Iowa. Roger Penske disse que essa coragem de Newgarden o fez contrata-lo
Took almost 5 minutes for the ambulance to get out there. Trucks there right away but ambulance took a long time
Ambulance is for transport only really there's medics on the trucks so that doesn't really matter too much.
tried a Gordon Smiley, but Newgarden was in the way
That's fucked up buddy
OK, does anyone else find it strange that the wheels do not appear to be spinning before the crash? Approx 4:03 to 4:05 of the video. Weird.
I’m surprised there isn’t a halo on the cars
Ambulance arrived after 5 minutes,it's incredible this delay.
Best safety team in business? Seriously, took an eternity to bring out the stretcher out
Guess they saving fuel on the ambulance..why is it not on screen
God is there from the botom of my heart and of course the protection of the car very Ugly acicdent all thy best for you from Carlos Portugal
Its not everyday u gotta see bulls horn on top of the rescue vehicles instead of the flashing strob lights..
Thanks to the halo no one got seriously hurt. 😁
But, there was no halo.... There never was, this is Indycar, not F1....
oh wait, was this a joke?
Where the hell was the ambulance all that time?
Doesn't matter the ambulance is only really needed for transport he didn't look ready for transport until after it got there anyway
I can't believe the safety crew did what they did.
I was there!!!
Nah, the NHRA Safety Safari is the best safety crew out there. They would have been rolling up as the cars came to a stop. There, ready, when they stopped.
Holy shit in the thumbnail it looked like a bike on first sight bc its so damaged
why is there barely anyone in the grandstands watching ? years ago the stands would be full of people
I want to say that this race was postponed to Monday due to rain which is why the crowds are so few.
It was initially a Saturday night race got rained out then this was on a Sunday it started to pour again cleaning up this wreck so they came back and finished the remaining of the race 2 months later in August and Graham Rahal beat out Hinchcliffe in a photo finish amazing last 10 laps
@@jasoncampbell7765 *Sunday
Coner?
why do they have doors on the safety vehicles? seems like the safety cars should pull up to the crash and people just get out to help the driver(s)
Because it's far too expensive to custom build a vehicle just for this use. Plus, the doors are specially reinforced to stand up to a potential racecar impact, which can and has happened in the past.
Maybe next year they can give away tickets or pay people to come to see this race.There's nobody there.
It was filled the first day but it got postponed for 5 hours cause of rain and they moved it to the next day and then after that crash it rained. So they moved the race to August which was 2 months away. So basically give or take 250 people was there.
Poor guy probably became three inches shorter after that crash
This is why they added the halo in f1
They added the halo in F1 because Jules Bianchi tried driving underneath a tractor in Japan.
That first second is hilarious.
Looks like they were getting an early start on social distancing. The crowd must have consisted of nothing more than a couple hundred people.
If Halo were in Indy, would it be a protection or could it become a weapon in this collision since neither the Santantonio did not survive?
It depends of the crash
I guess in this accident, it would protect the driver, but would be seriously damaged, because the halo is connected on the sides of the santantonio
guess the old racing myth is true that green cars are bad luck
Did anyone notice that it took a week for the ambulance to show up.😬
EMS Can't roll until the scene is considered safe or secured. And then, they need to be told that they're safe to roll. Believe me, it's a seriously shitty experience to know that you could be helping, but due to the scene not being considered safe, you have to sit back and hope no one dies before you're allowed in.
Why don’t they pull the plug on this series, how far Indy car has fallen.
Pull the plug on nascrap
The first thing i would do i fucking cry and kiss the ground and the barrier cuz that saved him
I thought he was dead when I first saw this.
Dmanracing 07 many people probably did think the same thing
Carai jegão!!! Like ;)
His name is Conor Daly. Not Coner... "Racefan"
It’s always the innocent driver that cops all the damage and the culprit walks away. Grrrrrrr
And did you not see how the culprit takes full responsibility after the crash in this case?
USMCLP and could you not see I was talking generally, corse you couldn’t.
Stephen Howlett Yeah okay.