Are The Lyrics To Hallelujah Even Accurate?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @CharlesCornellStudios
    @CharlesCornellStudios  2 года назад +157

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    • @aiden.m4a
      @aiden.m4a 2 года назад +3

      ok

    • @eezypredator3585
      @eezypredator3585 2 года назад +1

      Hi charles can you do a video on hyrule warriors AOC OST

    • @Qwervy
      @Qwervy 2 года назад +4

      7:20 you said 6 is major lol

    • @daniellynch3724
      @daniellynch3724 2 года назад +2

      @@Qwervy I was questioning my entire existence at that point

    • @Dylan-bl8dc
      @Dylan-bl8dc 2 года назад +1

      @@daniellynch3724 SAME 💀💀💀💀

  • @MatheusRobis
    @MatheusRobis 2 года назад +2060

    I was just thinking about the secret chord that David played and pleased the lord

    • @KanashimiMusic
      @KanashimiMusic 2 года назад +185

      Which is funny, because even though the lyrics are saying that the "secret chord" goes like this, he doesn't describe a single "secret chord" but a whole progression, lol

    • @TheAce736
      @TheAce736 2 года назад +164

      @@KanashimiMusic I always interpreted the secret chord was the one that released the tension with the word hallelujah. The progression was just providing context. It goes like this: buildup buildup, chord.

    • @therealmrfishpaste
      @therealmrfishpaste 2 года назад +234

      Gsus

    • @brandonandcharlene9527
      @brandonandcharlene9527 2 года назад +63

      As a teenager/young man, David used to play music on the Harp to King Saul as it often eased his tension. In this case "the lord" (lower case "l") was likely the king.

    • @KanashimiMusic
      @KanashimiMusic 2 года назад +10

      @@TheAce736 That's still not the single chord that's pleasing the lord, it's the entire progression that makes the chord so pleasing. To me, a "secret chord that pleases the lord" sounds like it should be a chord that should do so on its own, even with no context.

  • @sandmann521
    @sandmann521 2 года назад +625

    When you play this song on the guitar as Cohen likely would have composed it (which was probably the open-chord voicings but with a capo on 5), the Aminor is literally a lower overall voicing than the Gmajor that precedes it and the Fmajor that follows. I've always thought about it that way.

    • @daniellynch3724
      @daniellynch3724 2 года назад +24

      That is a really cool observation. Playing it with the capo makes me really want to hit that E7, but It definitely sounds Major in the song.

    • @erichd9460
      @erichd9460 2 года назад +5

      Was just thinking the same thing

    • @mwka
      @mwka 2 года назад +11

      Maybe. Perhaps both? A fair few of Cohen's songs on Various Positions were composed on a Casio keyboard, which I think he switched to from the guitar afterwards, for the most part.

    • @Karyu24
      @Karyu24 2 года назад +4

      Which is neither major, nor minor, but a secret third thing

    • @gmosc
      @gmosc 2 года назад +8

      Yes. And on bass (no capo) that motion from C down to A is a falling motion AND on piano. Jumping up to the A is less natural than going down. Personally, on bass, I go up to go the opposite direction than the other instruments to avoid a parallel motion and to hear my note better, especially on acoustic bass.

  • @JacobBloom
    @JacobBloom 2 года назад +644

    It goes like this
    The fourth, the third
    You change the chords, you must change the words
    The Lord's no longer pleased
    Oh hallelujah

    • @tfossgh
      @tfossgh 2 года назад +28

      Bealtiful

    • @nathanjasper512
      @nathanjasper512 2 года назад +140

      It goes like this the fourth the flat two
      you're out of Key God's mad at you,
      flat seven oh shit I don't know how to play Hallelujah.

    • @TROONTLEX
      @TROONTLEX 2 года назад +2

      And it goes like this
      the fourth, the fifth
      sh*t... that's a tritone, the lord is pissed
      you invoked the devil, you idiot
      Hallelujah

    • @kareemchehayeb5679
      @kareemchehayeb5679 2 года назад +6

      Bravo. 😂

    • @tristanrodriguez8254
      @tristanrodriguez8254 2 года назад +12

      @@nathanjasper512 this made me chuckle

  • @TheGerkuman
    @TheGerkuman 2 года назад +286

    What's interesting is that when I listen to the way it's often arranged, I think that the IV and V are played in Second Inversion when the words 'the fourth, the fifth' are sung, then on the minor fall the vi is also played in Second Inversion, but on 'the major lift' they play an F in root! So it really does lift... By one note!

    • @remcovanmook
      @remcovanmook 2 года назад +13

      Came to the comments to say exactly this.

    • @AndrewVanLare
      @AndrewVanLare 2 года назад +9

      This is what I was assuming they meant

    • @jacethompson4705
      @jacethompson4705 2 года назад +3

      Haha I said the same thing! I should have kept scrolling. You are so succinct as well.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 года назад +2

      And with I, IV, V, vi we have the famous four chords

  • @BD-yl5mh
    @BD-yl5mh 2 года назад +879

    It is weird that I am of that generation where Shrek genuinely was the first place I heard this song

    • @KyleRDent
      @KyleRDent 2 года назад +64

      I was actually alive for the original few recordings, and Shrek was still the first time I remember hearing it.

    • @eriktempelman2097
      @eriktempelman2097 2 года назад +20

      Well, I once had a guitar pupil who thought that "In the Hall of the Goblin King" was originally by Sepultura. Imagine his surprise when he heard Grieg's "Peer Gynt Suite" at my place on day, of which the Goblin piece is the concluding element.

    • @TheFirstGroover
      @TheFirstGroover 2 года назад +2

      I heard it from Jeff Buckley

    • @poit57
      @poit57 2 года назад +2

      For me, this song will forever be associated with The OC. That's where I thought Charles was going before he referenced Shrek.
      The only song I associate with Shrek is All-Star, but then again, Mystery Men is the movie that first comes to mind when I hear All-Star.

    • @minephlip
      @minephlip 2 года назад +3

      i always thought this was one of those songs that's kinda been around since forever, and we just kinda modernized it. It has always been so omnipresent to me, i have a hard time comprehending that it actually only picked up steam after shrek

  • @alienfretboy
    @alienfretboy 2 года назад +1015

    The chord that David played that pleased the Lord was…..G sus.

    • @carsonfox6
      @carsonfox6 2 года назад +35

      I see what u did there. ✝️

    • @isiah180
      @isiah180 2 года назад +9

      That's so..... unsettling

    • @vivaleroca7511
      @vivaleroca7511 2 года назад +72

      Oh Judas played G sus alright.
      Played him like a damn fiddle.

    • @danielabraham4596
      @danielabraham4596 2 года назад +7

      @@vivaleroca7511 clever girl

    • @carsonfox6
      @carsonfox6 2 года назад +14

      @@vivaleroca7511 But Jesus knew he was going to betray Him.

  • @lancewood7468
    @lancewood7468 2 года назад +253

    7:23, I know many didn’t catch it but he was meaning to say the 6 is a minor, that is in the C major scale, the 1, 4 and 5 is always major, and the 2, 3 and 6 is always minor in a major scale regarding any key you are in. For those who don’t know what a diminished is, one definition of it is you can use that 7 dim chord as a passing chord to change keys if you don’t want to do a walk up or change instantly

    • @MusicalKinetics
      @MusicalKinetics 2 года назад +10

      Yeah. I was going to lay down this comment until I saw yours. Good catch

    • @McALLAN1983
      @McALLAN1983 2 года назад +11

      It's not the definition it's a way to use it it. Definitions by definition are only the intervals, the rest is common and sometimes uncommon interpretation.. sorry for nitpicking but it's best to really understand that even the functionality of the chords we use can be subjected to different and not necessarily wrong interpretation. This is especially important in the creative process.

    • @speed8496
      @speed8496 2 года назад

      Lol I was gonna say, my life’s a lie

    • @vl3005
      @vl3005 2 года назад +1

      I did, and I was looking for that comment instead of just blasting him all over again like many people would. lol

    • @MusicalKinetics
      @MusicalKinetics 2 года назад

      @@vl3005 Blast away. More comments help the video do better. Don't feel you are disturbing him at any point with your comments 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @MarkusKaarlonenMusic
    @MarkusKaarlonenMusic 2 года назад +119

    If we look beyond the chords, the melody also goes up in the word "lift" from C to D (or 1 to 2). The whole "the 4th, the 5th..." part always gives me the chills, because it kind of breaks the 4th wall: for a moment, the lyrics of a song become aware that they are, in fact, in a song, and even contain some music theory. Pretty cool!

  • @josephjimorris
    @josephjimorris 2 года назад +65

    Haven’t seen anyone comment on this yet, but the “minor fall” and “major lift” also connect thematically to the rest of the song and the story that is being told. So it’s actually great writing with layers of meaning embedded.

    • @DonyaLane
      @DonyaLane 2 года назад +1

      Great lyric analysis!

    • @hpatss4966
      @hpatss4966 2 года назад +4

      It’s also a slight reference to the crucifixion of Jesus, the minor fall of the death of Christ and then the major lift in the meaning of his sacrifice. It’s interesting how many ways you can interpret this song

    • @a2wingedeagle
      @a2wingedeagle 2 года назад +2

      I don't know about that considering Leonard Cohen was a jew

    • @llutac
      @llutac 2 года назад +5

      @@a2wingedeagle As was Jesus

    • @e.conboy4286
      @e.conboy4286 7 месяцев назад +1

      12:33 Be unique!

  • @MMKMoore1
    @MMKMoore1 Год назад +7

    A fascinating moment I remember from my days of choral singing was during Otto Olsson's Te Deum. The chorus splits into 8 parts for one section. It's very dark and full of tension (minor) until the altos hit a III, then the tension slowly releases through the end of that section. As performers, we absolutely felt it, and it was very moving. We could also tell the audience felt the same.

  • @RyanWaldroop
    @RyanWaldroop 2 года назад +64

    I've been subscribed to you and Adam Neely for a couple of years now and have always been pretty confused about the number system. I played piano a few years as a kid so understand notes but not chords. This finally explained them and especially diminished in a way I could actually understand. Thank you so much!

    • @estera4176
      @estera4176 2 года назад +8

      Similarly here. I started playing instruments as a kid (no formal training) and initially I memorised the main chords that work within key. But after a whole I found out intervals were and suddenly realised I would use the 4ths,5ths, 6th etc. most of the time.
      Music is really maths, sport and art combined.

  • @CamdenJProductions
    @CamdenJProductions 2 года назад +273

    At 7:23, I believe you intended to say that 6 is minor, not major

    • @makemathurfriendwithjini6562
      @makemathurfriendwithjini6562 2 года назад +9

      Ya I thought so too XD

    • @b0unce805
      @b0unce805 2 года назад +12

      Can confirm that 6 is indeed naturally minor😂 lil slip up it happens haha

    • @TheUnderscore_
      @TheUnderscore_ 2 года назад +1

      @@b0unce805 Thanks... for the confirmation...

    • @Picksqueal
      @Picksqueal 2 года назад +2

      @@TheUnderscore_ I don't know. I think we need some credentials here.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 года назад +2

      I know. I noticed this too.
      I want my money back.

  • @tomrobertson8300
    @tomrobertson8300 2 года назад +17

    One of my favourite examples of lyrics referencing harmony is in Cole Porter’s “Ev’ry Time We Say Goodbye”, where it says “there’s no love song finer, but how strange the change from major to minor” while the harmony follows suit. In Ella Fitzgerald’s version of the song it’s at roughly 1:25, and it makes me smile every time I hear it!

  • @bobthepickle3232
    @bobthepickle3232 2 года назад +21

    I think what's important about the phrase "the minor fall" is that a IV - V would almost always resolve to the I chord, from which the minor sixth is definitely a 'fall', almost as a let-down of expectations.

    • @wyattstevens8574
      @wyattstevens8574 5 месяцев назад

      At the same time, (I'll use the key of C like he does) some people have pointed out that it's often played as F/C, G/D, Am/E, and then F in root position, which *lifts* a note in Am/E!

  • @Jack-er1sc
    @Jack-er1sc 2 года назад +4

    If anyone's interested, usually chords 1,4,5,&6 (I, IV, V, vi) are the only ones used in a song (with exceptions)
    Chord 1 is also referred to as the Tonic, 4 as the Subdominant, 5 as the Dominant, and 6 as the Relative Minor :)

  • @bradleysparker
    @bradleysparker 2 года назад +3

    Not sure if you were intending on doing so, but you've created the most clear and succinct content on scale degrees/chord construction/the number system that I've ever found. And I'm not sure why folks cover this in such an opaque way, it's extremely simple when you just run through the building blocks! Lots of music theory instruction seems to go into great depth on individual concepts while completely ignoring how to tie it into the bigger picture, and you always do a great job of doing the latter. Thanks Charles!

  • @TheStudioDrummer
    @TheStudioDrummer 2 года назад +81

    Also, the minor “falls”, drops, recedes by lowering the 3rd a half step. But yeah, I think it’s just as likely he’s referring to the vibe of sinking in to the minor sadness…👌👊🏽 P.S. I humbly submit that the best version of this song belongs to Jeff Buckley. 🙂

    • @Atlas_Mohler
      @Atlas_Mohler 2 года назад

      Gotta love Jeff. Great singer and somehow better guitar player

    • @michaeltutty1540
      @michaeltutty1540 2 года назад

      Sorry to disagree, but PENTATONIX wins by a country mile. Leonard Cohen agreed about a month before he died. Wait until you hear Mitch Grassi as he breaks your heart with how he tunes the a Capella chords.

    • @EH23831
      @EH23831 Год назад +1

      I like k.d. Lang’s version 😊

  • @jamiekarlstevensmusic3361
    @jamiekarlstevensmusic3361 2 года назад +6

    The song "One Four Five" by the Cat Empire is literally about how that chord progression can be uplifting and brighten your mood. Ollie is also a beast on keys.

    • @eriktempelman2097
      @eriktempelman2097 2 года назад

      ... then you will enjoy the song "I bought a flat" by 10CC.

  • @whomee2
    @whomee2 2 года назад +4

    The full live performance of Jeff Buckley's cover is absolutely haunting and beautiful. So much emotion. RIP Jeff.

  • @ScissorinSamurai
    @ScissorinSamurai 2 года назад +15

    I figured the "minor" part was referring to the chord and the "fall" part was referring to the melody line sliding down when he sings it, and similar for the chord and melody sliding up on "major lift"

    • @mabrurhrivu4998
      @mabrurhrivu4998 2 года назад +1

      It doesn't fall though, just stays on the same note

    • @ScissorinSamurai
      @ScissorinSamurai 2 года назад +1

      @@mabrurhrivu4998 Yeah I guess you're right. I must have heard the slide on "fall" down in covers. The "major lift" does go up though!

  • @GeneralOdium
    @GeneralOdium 2 года назад

    The discussion on the minor fall really illustrates the sublime ability of Cohen as a poet, writer, and musician.

  • @setermd
    @setermd 2 года назад +48

    When he said “Shrek was in 2001” i felt it.

    • @dadgadify
      @dadgadify 2 года назад +3

      Well, time marches along in one direction

    • @dwsel
      @dwsel 2 года назад

      @@dadgadify Let's reverse the time arrow 😁

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 2 года назад +1

      I had a friend who got carded, clerk handed it back with barely a glance. When questioned, the clerk said that it was easy since the birthdate was before 2000.
      That made me feel old.

    • @AceyBleach
      @AceyBleach 2 года назад +1

      I remember after turning 21, handing a clerk my ID for the first time. He looked at me like, "why?" until he saw the date lol

  • @d8ford
    @d8ford 2 года назад

    "The Minor fall, the Major lift" could also be seen as referring to David's fall in sin, and his passionate pleading to God thru his music to for give him!

  • @matthewparker4177
    @matthewparker4177 2 года назад +113

    One artist I'd love to see you react to is Cody Fry, I particularly love his rendition of Eleanor Rigby and his original compositions- Caves/Underground. Many thanks from the UK.

    • @AdamSmith-jb2lf
      @AdamSmith-jb2lf 2 года назад +5

      Great shout! I'd watch that.

    • @caleblarsen5490
      @caleblarsen5490 2 года назад +3

      I second this motion so hard.

    • @BowenMa01
      @BowenMa01 2 года назад +3

      yes! orchestra in pop is so unique- but cool as well…

    • @tacobenny695
      @tacobenny695 2 года назад +3

      Bro the ballad for our marching show this year was composed by him 🤩

    • @andreastevens8262
      @andreastevens8262 2 года назад +1

      Yesss

  • @triedge6068
    @triedge6068 2 года назад +1

    Hey man, I've watched few of your vids, and the one that hooked me up in subscribing to your channel was the way you explained what "sus" is all about in layman's terms. I really like how you explain things both in technical and in a more humane approach by connecting it to human emotions. More power to your channel. Keep up the good work.

  • @oswalddebruin
    @oswalddebruin 2 года назад +17

    The only other song I know of the top of my head that describes its own harmony is Porcupine Tree's "Four chords that made a million". It has in fact 2 chords for the verse, it adds a 3rd chord for the 'chorus' and only gets a fourth chord in the bridge. I don't think the song would warrant a full episode, but you might want to have a listen to it.

    • @MrGnuifje
      @MrGnuifje 2 года назад +3

      Another one (sort of) is Natasha Bedingfield's "These words" referring to D-E- F which describes not the melody but the bassline - but obviously is also a play on "def" (as in definitely)

    • @odd4353
      @odd4353 2 года назад +2

      Mild High Club- Homage does something like this.
      “Someone wrote this song before,
      and I could tell you where it’s from,
      The 4,7,3,6,2,5,1 to put my mind at ease”
      It’s the Autumn Leaves Progression.

  • @LeviClay
    @LeviClay 2 года назад

    How’s this for an interpretation then?
    We acknowledge that he could be singing about the chords he’s playing, but in the wider context, he’s talking about a “secret chord”, what was that chord (not progression) that David played?
    It’s a dominant chord. How does a dominant 7 chord resolve?
    The MINOR 7th falls, and the MAJOR 3rd lifts - boom resolution.
    It goes like this, the IV the V…7

  • @afrokween8752
    @afrokween8752 2 года назад +108

    Since the song is in the key of C major, I kinda figured the 4th was referring to F major chord that's in it and the 5th is G major chord🙂And whatever key you're playing it in, it refers to that key's 4th and 5th degree. Same with the minor part (A minor or whatever the 6th degree would be depending on the key you're playing the song in)

    • @matthewthecooke
      @matthewthecooke 2 года назад +21

      that's what I thought as well. "minor fall" being a minor chord and "major lift" being a major chord

    • @TheUnderscore_
      @TheUnderscore_ 2 года назад +4

      @@matthewthecooke I did not connect these lyrics to the actual music until I saw the thumbnail to this video. I guess I've just been hearing it since so young that by the time I learnt music theory, those lyrics just seemed to... exist for me.

    • @afrokween8752
      @afrokween8752 2 года назад +6

      @@matthewthecooke I've always loved the fact that Cohen incorporated that in the song. Ironically, I was recently practicing a piano cover for "Hallelujah" but I got out of the habit of practicing (I'm such a slacker lol), but I think this video will help me get back in the swing of it

    • @blow-by-blow-trumpet
      @blow-by-blow-trumpet 2 года назад +6

      That's pretty much exactly what Charles is saying.

  • @BrandenMcNabb
    @BrandenMcNabb 2 года назад

    I don't know why I watch these videos. I find myself entertained even though you may as well be explaining Mandarin to a German shepherd for all the understanding I have

  • @gabrielmcilquham29
    @gabrielmcilquham29 2 года назад +124

    I would love to hear your analysis of the soundtrack to “Everything, Everywhere, All at Once” written by Son Lux. It has some really beautiful stuff in there!

    • @thibaultashkanshamloo
      @thibaultashkanshamloo 2 года назад +8

      didn’t think i'd see someone requesting son lux. a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one

    • @Roseforthethorns
      @Roseforthethorns 2 года назад +1

      Omg the music in that film is SO GOOD

    • @lilyofluck371
      @lilyofluck371 2 года назад +1

      I'm disappointed that not everyone is talking about that film. It really deserves a lot more love!

    • @bryangrunauer
      @bryangrunauer 2 года назад +4

      The soundtrack is by Son Lux?! Wow that would explain the eerie but beautiful quality I get from it, so cool

    • @hubguy
      @hubguy 2 года назад

      @@thibaultashkanshamloo Fellow Son Lux appreciators

  • @kristennowlin3642
    @kristennowlin3642 11 месяцев назад

    Favorite song. I love this line. The song refers to the Bible a lot; the first verse especially refers to David. David had a fall (he committed a whole line of sins for Bathsheba). But God restored him, lifted him, and David is known as one of humanity’s best kings, the father of the wisest man to have ever lived, and “a man after God’s own heart”. The line refers to the song but also this tragic yet hopeful story from the Bible

  • @palpytine
    @palpytine 2 года назад +4

    David Bennet Piano (on RUclips) has done a couple of brilliant videos on this. "Music That Sounds Like The Lyrics" and "30 More Songs That Use Word Painting"
    Closely related are the analyses that Saher Galt (also on RUclips) did for the theme tunes of Westworld and Ghostbusters showcasing quite *how* clever they really are.

  • @lordvetinari1331
    @lordvetinari1331 Год назад

    Leonard Cohen also had a lovely sense of humor and I'm sure the combination of the emotions falling and rising with the lyrics along with subverting the expectation of the casual ear amused him

  • @TheWhite2086
    @TheWhite2086 2 года назад +4

    "One Four Five" by The Cat Empire is an entire song about the 145 chords. It starts with a man going to a doctor seeking drugs and the doctor proclaiming that the patient needs a daily dose of "some one four five to make you high" because "these chords are written in your brain" and "these three harmonies breed positivity"

  • @CarlosHernandez-el4oc
    @CarlosHernandez-el4oc 2 года назад +1

    The melody on “major lift” also goes from C to D indicating the emotional lift even though the chord is back to F
    Technically the added D can make the chord a ii minor 65 chord as well, setting up a ii V I until a deceptive cadence back to the minor vi

  • @crazyfield
    @crazyfield 2 года назад +13

    7:22
    isn't 6 a minor chord (no pun intended) in a major scale?

    • @kamasp2272
      @kamasp2272 2 года назад

      i was looking for someone to point that out!! haha 😂

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 года назад

      UNSUBSCRIBE

  • @crisr.8280
    @crisr.8280 2 года назад +1

    As a causal choir singer that hasn't learned to read notes, the lyrics somehow kinda made sense but this video was really enlightening. Thank you so much

  • @olly123451
    @olly123451 2 года назад +5

    I would love to see your analysis of some of Brian David-Gilbert’s work.
    Specifically, the beautiful piece of art known as RGSS, it uses wonderful harmony to deliver a very… unique style 😊

  • @zarinloosli5338
    @zarinloosli5338 2 года назад +2

    Months ago, I started subscribing to music theory creators because I wanted to expand my piecemeal understanding of music theory. I didn't even know what the number system was called, but I knew that Roman numerals kept showing up on my sheet music and I wasn't sure what they were.
    This explanation was incredibly helpful, thank you!

  • @hamasathecold7842
    @hamasathecold7842 2 года назад +11

    I am here, yet again, to request you react to Hans Zimmers best work, Prince of Egypt. Such a good soundtrack, such good writing, so much good.

    • @dwsel
      @dwsel 2 года назад +3

      I love it. Thumbs up 👍

    • @iPyromantic
      @iPyromantic 2 года назад +1

      That score is absolutely stunning and I may or may not have most of it committed to memory.

  • @jacethompson4705
    @jacethompson4705 2 года назад +1

    This song has always been a favorite of mine, in no small part to the conversational aspect of the lyrics and music throughout. I loved your explanation! I also thought it had more to say about what the music could do just as you instructed in this video it was David explaining to someone who "doesn't really care for music". Music goes like this, this fourth chord and fifth chord. Then you could go minor (the sixth) but then reestablishing the fourth but now in an inversion and how it could be resolved in a more major setting with the e of the six chord now going to the F in the fourth at the height or lifted. It also establishes the tone of the song, difficulties of life causing hallelujah instead of fall. As well, to go back to the "Secret Chord" talked about previously is revealed at "the baffled king COMPOSING hallelujah" as you stated with the ONLY chord in the entire scale that is out of the ordinary sharing nothing of the previously established chord structure with the V7/vi which I think was meant to illustrate the narrator of the story in God.

  • @knickymusic
    @knickymusic 2 года назад +17

    This song has almost become a folk song, people don't really know who wrote it and yet it's such a classic.

    • @angryscottishidiot
      @angryscottishidiot 2 года назад +3

      Leonard Cohen, as mentioned in the video, wrote it. People really do know.

    • @droid8472
      @droid8472 2 года назад

      People don't know who wrote the shrek version, it was Rufus wainwright

    • @BruceRichardsonMusic
      @BruceRichardsonMusic 2 года назад

      People also apparently have no idea what they lyrics are getting at, and somehow imagine it to be religious.

  • @birdiemcchicken1471
    @birdiemcchicken1471 2 года назад +1

    I learned more about playing music from this one video than I did from 2 years of Piano Lessons (Which I quit after still not being able to play anything what-so-ever)
    Everything you mentioned in this video was a brand-new concept to me. The only thing I learned in 2 years was which Ball-with-a-vertical-line goes with which key.

  • @PuppetThanksScott
    @PuppetThanksScott 2 года назад +4

    There is a video on RUclips called "when you only sing in F#" (uploaded by George Collier) in which the singer sings a dissonant F# on purpose while singing they like to do it because everyone else writes in a specific key. It's obviously a comedic song but I still feel like it's really interesting especially when talking about this topic! Just wanted to point it out ^^

    • @donalmaguire6099
      @donalmaguire6099 2 года назад +2

      it's a Tim Minchin song

    • @PuppetThanksScott
      @PuppetThanksScott 2 года назад +1

      @@donalmaguire6099 ah thanks!

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  • @Freakmaster480
    @Freakmaster480 2 года назад

    It still saddens me that Cohen died. I've loved his music for most of my life. My father introduced him to me when I too young to remember and I've always loved his work.

  • @MusicalKinetics
    @MusicalKinetics 2 года назад +2

    Really interesting video. I love how you explained the concepts and the thought process behind the lyrics. Keep on going 🔥🔥🔥

  • @mikegrear6149
    @mikegrear6149 2 года назад

    Another song that self references a harmonic shift is Smashmouth's Allstar. Near the end of the song the singer mentions that we "could use a little change". On the word change the band changes key. Pretty cool.

  • @Marklar3
    @Marklar3 2 года назад +7

    I just realized Shrek is responsible for everyone singing the B at the end of the phrase which isn't in the original.

    • @KanashimiMusic
      @KanashimiMusic 2 года назад

      Wait which B exactly?

    • @zonelessInsomniac
      @zonelessInsomniac 2 года назад +1

      ​@@KanashimiMusic There's a part of the "main theme" of the Shrek original score ("Fairytale" from the intro) where the melody has a repeating 3-5-6 phrase that at one point includes the 7 (D in Fairytale). The chorus of "Hallalujah" also has this 3-5-6 motif, but the melody never goes to the 7 (B in this case). As a result of them both having a similar melodic phrase and appearing prominently in an iconic movie, some people mistakenly get them sort of mixed up and garnish the chorus of Hallelujah with the bit from Fairytale.

  • @DoctorOctoroc
    @DoctorOctoroc 2 года назад

    Me and a good friend of mine years ago had an hours long conversation about this song one night. We never came to any definitive conclusions at the timer but looking back with many more years as a musician under my belt, I can think of two ways to view the 'minor fall' and 'major lift' within the context of the music being played. I'm sure someone else in the comments touched on there but here is my take immediately after watching the video:
    1-1) The 'minor fall' refers to the fact that the note that makes that '5th' a major chord is 'falling' (from B to A, which is the first step down within the Cmaj scale), and becomes the root of next chord, which is Am.
    1-2) The 'major lift' refers to the root of the previous chord (Am) being used as the third in the next chord in order to define it as a major chord - that chord being Fmaj where A is its third and therefore makes it a major chord.
    2-1) The 'minor fall' refers to the first minor chord below the root chord (C major) within the scale, which would be Am.
    2-2) The 'major lift' refers to the first major chord above the root chord (C major) within the scale, which is Fmaj, as both D and E create minor chords.
    It's confounded for sure, but it still makes sense on some level - between these two interpretations, the emotions invoked, the story being told, etc. Great song.
    But Jeff Buckley did it best...

  • @StarQueenEstrella
    @StarQueenEstrella 2 года назад +8

    In the chorus of Fall Out Boy’s “Dance, Dance” there’s a lyric about dancing in halftime. But the song is actually felt in double-time. There is, however, a breakdown after the second chorus where the song is felt in halftime (even though there’s no backbeat in the breakdown).

  • @dwightkid1
    @dwightkid1 2 года назад

    Awesome video! I love your content. As a saxophonist, I naturally had to scroll through the comments to see if anyone talked about the chords you mentioned for saxophone in relation to piano, or "concert pitch." If we were talking about a G# on an Eb saxophone (alto, bari, etc.), the concert pitch or chord would be B. If we were talking about a Bb saxophone (soprano, tenor, etc.), a G# would be a concert F#. I'm not sure if you already knew this, but I couldn't pass up a chance to mention it. Anyway, keep making great content! We all enjoy it!

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  • @GreenJay
    @GreenJay 2 года назад +3

    A video explaining the basics of transposing for instruments would be great! One of the things I'm having trouble getting into.

    • @truefilm6991
      @truefilm6991 2 года назад

      Do you mean transposing instruments, such as the saxophones, the Bb trumpet or French horns? Or do you mean transposing in general? If the latter, your very first step is learning all 12 sounding (15 written) major scales, their key signatures and the respective triads (the I chord). The piano as your reference would be a great instrument.

    • @GreenJay
      @GreenJay 2 года назад +1

      @@truefilm6991 more so the former like he mentioned in the video, but I'm still glad I started with the piano for the very reason you just mentioned. Understanding that instrument is like a gateway drug into music theory lol

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth 2 года назад

      Quick and dirty. You feed the player of such an instrument a C on his sheet music, and he produces the pitch of his instrument. There's a such thing as multiple layers of transposition, so this can get convoluted if you overthink it. Don't overthink it. That's the player's job. The composer's job is just to feed the player something they can read. An instrument in a key that is one step lower than another will need to read a note that is one step higher to match.
      So if the piano music has 1 flat (F), Horn in F has empty signature (C), Eb Alto has 2 sharps (C+1=D), and Bb whatever has 1 sharp (F+1=G). This only applies to wind instruments reading treble clef (in most countries). For French Horn, you feed them music as if their instrument is in F, regardless of whether it is or not. Unfortunately, I can't really explain this any better in piano terms. My background for knowing this is as a brass player, and I've learned some rudimentary transposition tricks. I have no idea how to explain the relative octaves for you.

    • @truefilm6991
      @truefilm6991 2 года назад

      @@Markworth That's it roughly. Just: Bb instruments (say Bb trumpet, soprano clarinet, soprano sax, etc.) have an added two sharps, not one. I have always the instrument ranges open, so I know exactly what I am writing. You should be aware of difficult leaps, possible dynamic range, if an instrument thins out as you go higher (say: oboe) or if it becomes stronger (C flute, or Bb trumpet from a certain point on where it tends to isolate from the section), etc. etc. Notation software helps a lot, but it's always better when you study and really know what you are doing.

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth 2 года назад

      @@truefilm6991 Yes. 1 flat + 2 sharps = 1 sharp.

  • @m_tth_w9647
    @m_tth_w9647 2 года назад +1

    Pov : You're watching this video with little to no music background yet something still forces you to finish the whole video wishing you knew 70% of what he's talking about.

    • @m_tth_w9647
      @m_tth_w9647 2 года назад

      Probably just the good music

  • @murilocostarosa
    @murilocostarosa 2 года назад +3

    I love to see Leonard Cohen getting the recognition he deserves

  • @zafyrgoalum
    @zafyrgoalum 2 года назад

    I am loving learning the intricacies of music from Charles. I love this song and always thought that these lyrics meant more than just the music theory.
    It's relationships. (YMMV)
    The fourth, the fifth: major, happy chords. How's a relationship start? on an upbeat as it starts, and then more up as it grows.
    The minor fall, the major lift: frequently (again, your mileage may vary) there is a bump or something. That minor fall. "Is this really something I want to keep pursuing?" It can be anything, but it's something important to the person questioning.
    The major lift: "Yes. yes it is" That moment when you say that this IS something special that you want to keep with.
    Just my thoughts on the matter.

  • @ancientbricks
    @ancientbricks 2 года назад +4

    Thinking about the Major Lift, not only is it an emotional lift from minor chord to major chord, but when it goes from that Am to F, the only note that changes is that the E note LIFTS to an F note!

  • @meeshgardner83
    @meeshgardner83 Год назад

    Absolutely awesome explanation of those chords and the numbering. I'm self-taught and never understood the numbers! So cool!

  • @asapvarg
    @asapvarg 2 года назад +5

    Was hoping you'd mention a common feature in some arrangements where they insert a major III chord (Emaj) prior to the minor fall. I've wondered for a while why this works and feels more appropriate than the diatonic minor III chord

    • @janjamiyt
      @janjamiyt 2 года назад +2

      The reason it works is that it's a secondary dominant: basically, the E major chord is borrowed from the key of A minor, creating a V-i cadence; it's sort of like a miniature key change
      it also creates a nice motion betweeen G and A, because the E chord adds a G# in between

  • @TheAussieGunBunny
    @TheAussieGunBunny 2 года назад

    So I have always considered myself to be an intuitive musician, I have always played by ear and have always struggled with music theory.. I think you have just in the space of 16 minutes taught me more about the numbers system and actually made it make sense to me than all of my music teachers combined ever did!!! so Tankyou for that!!

    • @km4hr
      @km4hr 2 года назад +1

      Maybe the teachers provided the infrastructure and this video flipped the switch. For example, say you built a new home. The power company provided the electricity and an electrician did the wiring. You didn't understand what any of that was for or how it works but when someone walked in and flipped on a light switch suddenly you understood the purpose of all the prior things that led up to that aha! moment. The impact of the video may have been more meaningful because of your prior struggles. If that the case then your teachers efforts were not wasted.

  • @juanmanueloria
    @juanmanueloria 2 года назад +3

    Café Tacvba's song Esa Noche also nods to music theory in its lyrics. When Rubén sings "fue como ir de menor a mayor" which in one context (inside the lyric narrative) means "it was like going from less to more", it also translates in songwriting context as "going from minor to major" and it actually does modulate in that exact passage to a bridge in a major tonality inside of a minor song. I've always found that pretty cool. You should check it out, it happens at 1:16 ruclips.net/video/rQ1kk1NAqlI/видео.html

  • @juicybuttercup5393
    @juicybuttercup5393 2 года назад

    my friend actually helped teach me the basics of musical theory and used this song as a reference and I thought it was so cool that you also happened to teach this part of the song a day before she did

  • @geoffreywood5808
    @geoffreywood5808 2 года назад +7

    The “secret chord that pleased the lord” is the major chord that relieves the tension that you build with the 4th (pleasing to the ear, relaxing),then the 5th (also pleasant to the ear), then you go to the minor 3rd(by flatting the 3rd note in the chord, you create tension). Then the “secret chord” is breaking the tension by resolving back to the root chord, or major. Music is a language, and it tells the story. For a story to be interesting, it must have conflict and resolve.
    Example: Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water. After they got it, they came back down the hill and took it home to their mother. ……BORING!
    Much more interesting if Jack falls and hurts himself, and Jill also trips and falls, and they both tumble down the hill.

  • @draymanil
    @draymanil 2 года назад +1

    God I love musical theory. I learned the “Nashville system” as I was taught to call it by a former Nashville studio musician. It has been by far the handiest thing I’ve ever learned. It has allowed me to jump to other instruments with relative ease. Currently I’m unable to play anything due to some issues with my hand dexterity which is quite depressing.

  • @katrinarose2210
    @katrinarose2210 2 года назад +6

    As a saxophonist I just have to say, if the alto is playing G#, the piano is playing B natural
    But this just proves the point that you shouldnt be required to have to transcribe on the spot when numbers and roman numerals exist to describe theory.
    It's like learning machine language in programming. Some people know C+, C#, java, python, etc, but all of those languages when compiled mean the same thing to a computer. Similarly, saxophone, tuba, piano, didgeridoo, etc, it all makes the same sounds to whomever is listening or conducting yk?
    Anyway thanks for coming to my Ted talk

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  • @CoreyFullest
    @CoreyFullest Год назад

    A satisfying chord progression. Great job, David!

  • @Roeming
    @Roeming 2 года назад +3

    7:22 six should be minor

  • @SteveBrockMedia
    @SteveBrockMedia 2 года назад

    Might depend on voicing. On guitar, I might put that major lift (in C) on Bar 8. Plus, how I play is C | F G Am | F/A | (which could be that major lift). Just a thought. Thanks for everything!

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  • @dalleth
    @dalleth 2 года назад +11

    My favorite part of Hallelujah, is when it's sung at religious services. While it's certainly talking about a religious experience, likely not what the congregation had in mind that morning.

    • @AdamPFarnsworth
      @AdamPFarnsworth 2 года назад +5

      That's why I hate this song lol. People *do not* get it

  • @joppedippr
    @joppedippr 2 года назад

    'Scoring the end of the world' by Motionless in White featuring Mick Gordon has a line where they say "change their key" and as they say that they change key. Thought of this while watching the video. Awesome video Charles!

  • @CrabCake0
    @CrabCake0 2 года назад +4

    Attempt 20: *Please* listen to the Hollow Knight ost! Imagine classical composers wrote a video game ost, please!

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 года назад

      Nobody cares.

    • @rush4130
      @rush4130 2 года назад

      @@andybaldman well, this comment certainly didn't age well....

  • @zookeeperdan5401
    @zookeeperdan5401 2 года назад

    Hearing this I immediately thought of Fountains of Wayne Hotline by Robbie Fulks. Lots of musical theory.
    "And chordally, let's see, a 1, a 5, a 4, with and without a sub-dominant 7, a 2, 2 minor, and briefly a 9th compound over the tonic"
    This kind of makes sense now. Thanks!

  • @EinDontNo
    @EinDontNo 2 года назад +5

    Day 2 of asking to listen to Dark souls OST

  • @fez-._.-zik
    @fez-._.-zik 2 года назад

    The vi is also the relative (minor) i of the major key. So going to the vi gives the feeling of bVI->bVII->i which gives a sense of falling resolution before the "major lift" brings a more uplifting tonal resolution.

  • @EH23831
    @EH23831 Год назад

    Charles, I just love your enthusiasm… never fails to give me a lift 😊
    Thank you so much 🙏♥️

  • @BrianMagnan
    @BrianMagnan 2 года назад

    I’m glad he acknowledged Cale’s version. Because it’s the version that was in Shrek and I feel it gets the least recognition when compared to the original or Buckley’s version. Because of an issue with his record label Cales version was in the movie but a sound-a-like was used for the actual soundtrack that you would be able to stream today.

  • @jakobeliasson5972
    @jakobeliasson5972 2 года назад

    Jeff B's gotta be the definitive one. I'll never forget that scene in the Westwing when the bodyguard dies.

  • @samuelcaskie
    @samuelcaskie 2 года назад

    In Ancient Greece, where music was first becoming popular, 'high' notes and 'low' notes were actually the opposite way round (because our 'low' notes would have had taller/longer pipes), so the fall and lift might have had opposite meanings.

  • @rocketplane
    @rocketplane 2 года назад

    7:03 Charles: "That brings us back---" Me: "To Do! Do do do... doe, a deer......"

  • @victorkonon
    @victorkonon 2 года назад +1

    I often sing the lyrics for "the minor fall" one 3d down (B-C-C-A) instead of staying on the note. then it all makes sense. the chord can also have a root on the 3d making it a minor fall to 'vi64' chord. then a major lift into IV chord is a step up.

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  • @beatfromjetsetradio8239
    @beatfromjetsetradio8239 2 года назад +1

    This is an argument I’ve had with way too many people.
    Now I finally have somebody else to point to who agrees with me _and_ has credentials.

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  • @daviddemar8749
    @daviddemar8749 2 года назад

    This was terrific! Just about every time I have heard this song i ( a hobbyist guitarist) have wondered about what Cohen's description would sound like. Thank you ror answering my question in a totally understandable and enjoyable way!

  • @Gaming_Groove
    @Gaming_Groove 2 года назад

    In addition, on "Major Lift", while the root is dropping to F in the bass line, the E on the right hand is "lifting" to F. Always thought that was a neat touch.

  • @zee_hobbyyt
    @zee_hobbyyt 2 года назад +1

    I was actually wondering this a few days ago. Now I know! Excellent video as usual

  • @mikew6840
    @mikew6840 2 года назад

    Yes, I’d love a vid on transposing instruments. Baffles my little brain why it evolved like that!

  • @thomaswdyoung
    @thomaswdyoung 2 года назад

    The song that springs to my mind is The Music Theory Song (Intervals Roasting) - parody lyrics to The Christmas Song that provide a running analysis of the tune.

  • @DJKLProductions
    @DJKLProductions 3 месяца назад

    Of course you have noticed that ‘fall’ and ‘lift’ refer to the quality of minor and major, but that is also clear in the original lyrics, where it is not ‘fall’ and ‘lift’, but ‘falls’ and ‘lifts’, that is, the corresponding verbs. By using the verbs, Cohen describes the feelings that minor and major chords (can) express.

  • @winkingdragon463
    @winkingdragon463 2 года назад +1

    Watching you dissect music just.....
    😊 Joy

  • @1001Bastiano
    @1001Bastiano 2 года назад

    I'm somebody that has always struggled to understand chords and chord progression, and I learned more from this video alone than I ever did in middleschool learning music lmao

  • @liljojo3101
    @liljojo3101 2 года назад

    This was SUCH a good explanation of the number system!!!

  • @pon1
    @pon1 2 года назад

    For me it made sense because in the minor fall he uses a lower voice and the major lift he lifts his voice, so he is making the uplifting note more clear that way.

  • @samsolitaryroll
    @samsolitaryroll 2 года назад

    The numbering system is even more useful in a situation where you always have different person singing and playing with you everytime you perform, like in church's service. Different worship leaders will sing in different base note even though it's the same song, especially man and woman. That is why the entire musician have to adjust with them and the numbering system really helped in this case.

  • @CoachCole71
    @CoachCole71 2 года назад +2

    At 11:29 when you are explaining the minor to major lift, All I hear is the avengers theme again 😂

    • @MrWigg1es22
      @MrWigg1es22 2 года назад +1

      Okay, so I'm not going crazy.

  • @haunterpotts
    @haunterpotts 2 года назад +1

    The E7 chord a little before the chorus is soooo nice

  • @AdamLaMore
    @AdamLaMore 2 года назад

    I'd also point out in the minor fall that vi is the relative minor of I - so we are using the same key signature as our expected resolution but the "fallen" version.

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  • @abydosianchulac2
    @abydosianchulac2 2 года назад

    I always heard the lyrics re: "minor fall" as describing the bass line I instinctively hear, where the 4 and 5 are followed by a fall to 3, which would establish the vi chord in second inversion, followed by a lift/upward movement to 4 for the root of the IV chord. I think my ear hears this so that the 6, the highest note in this bass movement, is delayed until the point of highest drama in the verse, the "hallelujah." That word always begins on the highest note of the melody, and then even as the melody falls the bass moves upwards to finish the word with the highest note of its own line. (So that full line in my head goes 1 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 5# - 6.) The lyrics would, in my mind, be a relatively reasonable description for that movement.

  • @juzuko
    @juzuko 2 года назад

    You're an amazing teacher, Charles!!

  • @michaeldelaney7271
    @michaeldelaney7271 Год назад

    The song was wonderfully used in "The West Wing" episode "Posse Comitatus" during the third season.

  • @travisbrewer5391
    @travisbrewer5391 Год назад

    The reference is in the Psalms allegedly composed by King David: Psalm 6:1 “For the leader; with stringed instruments; upon the 8th” for one example.

  • @BradleyBrown
    @BradleyBrown 2 года назад

    That was really interesting! I had an inclination that the lyrics had to do with the chord progression, but didn't truly know what they meant until you explained it so very well. Until now, I just took it for granted.