Bot rotated he just didnt do anything with it. In my opinion he shouldve just started hitting red and kiting it towards draven so he could get axe reset. I don't know if the invade was getting called off because draven lost his axes or something, but he could easily gain it back hitting red.
I just don't get why Isma didn't instantly Q spell after the stun. His Q spell was up, it would have traded one AA with a secured Q2, which probably would have been enough. EDIT : that said, I don't get ppl flaming Isma on the pathing, do they actually realize his play was very good and he's not at fault here ?
@@Minecrafttroller-je1uz Nop, that's the point, the combo I said he should have done is not flashable (except the initial E ofc) because the whole point of that fast combo is that the stun duration is long enough to get Q1 and empowered AA at the same time as Q2. The only conditions are that the execution is fast enough, and that Vi has not more than 10% additional tenacity which was not the case from her runes. EDIT : he also had the possibility to cancel his empowered AA animation with the E and then do the combo I said with one basic AA instead, but I'm unsure if he had time to animate a passive AA before Vi is out of range. I would say yes considering he was clearly not at max E range.
At least he's doing different stuff than what we are used to in LEC and especially as a rookie I think this is respectable. If his team decided to follow him and lose 3 minions this game was over btw.
@@TockTVp What's worse is that after Jankos went to base, you can see that neither mid nor bot made an effort to help him, in the end the team made him look bad, like here in the comments...
@@absolutedomination5254 Oner is aggressive, didn't u watch his Poppy game against LNG? Didn't u watch his Lee Sin game against WBG? He is literally early invading their jungler
@@phensanji2501 Analyzing it I can see going around it loses ≈ 5-6 seconds, and Vi deals ≈ 600dmg in 5 seconds, so it would be really close, I guess maybe you barely don’t make it without the Flash. Still would like to see it actually played out to check… also curious to know what the cutoff is in terms of how fast at clearing the enemy champion is.
@@lemonhaze1506 We just back seaters. It's like a stadium fan telling players what to do. Maybe we are right, maybe we are wrong, but our opinion is worth as much as a cockroach
@@kevinnguyen8631 no , in this case , its not a maybe , ALL yordles can pass these 2 turrets , its a known fact for years , he should have practiced it
that play make me remember a game from last years where Canyon with nidalee perma invade Penaut. just in this case his team didn't rotate on time
Bot rotated he just didnt do anything with it. In my opinion he shouldve just started hitting red and kiting it towards draven so he could get axe reset. I don't know if the invade was getting called off because draven lost his axes or something, but he could easily gain it back hitting red.
that was my fav fnc roster
I just don't get why Isma didn't instantly Q spell after the stun. His Q spell was up, it would have traded one AA with a secured Q2, which probably would have been enough.
EDIT : that said, I don't get ppl flaming Isma on the pathing, do they actually realize his play was very good and he's not at fault here ?
yea as a poppy player its tilting to watch he had fb there
true,that was kill if he insta pressed q after stun connected.
jankos is always safe if he flashes @@dunlosi1438
100% wrong, Jankos just flashes immediately after the stun in that case instead of waiting 1 second
@@Minecrafttroller-je1uz Nop, that's the point, the combo I said he should have done is not flashable (except the initial E ofc) because the whole point of that fast combo is that the stun duration is long enough to get Q1 and empowered AA at the same time as Q2. The only conditions are that the execution is fast enough, and that Vi has not more than 10% additional tenacity which was not the case from her runes.
EDIT : he also had the possibility to cancel his empowered AA animation with the E and then do the combo I said with one basic AA instead, but I'm unsure if he had time to animate a passive AA before Vi is out of range. I would say yes considering he was clearly not at max E range.
Isma did well, it's his team that inted him not following him in the jungle, they needed to give away a few creeps
I miss when FNC was always doing some king of jung invade when Selfmade and Bwipo was their jung.
bro thinks he's canyon😂
At least he's doing different stuff than what we are used to in LEC and especially as a rookie I think this is respectable.
If his team decided to follow him and lose 3 minions this game was over btw.
@@TockTVp What's worse is that after Jankos went to base, you can see that neither mid nor bot made an effort to help him, in the end the team made him look bad, like here in the comments...
And you are still iron dame
Oner from wish
canyon* , oner is not that aggreesive
@@absolutedomination5254 Oner is aggressive, didn't u watch his Poppy game against LNG? Didn't u watch his Lee Sin game against WBG? He is literally early invading their jungler
@@lanzppppyeah he will early invade ,but he wont cross from one side to other throught turrets , thats canyon
@@lanzpppp That same game where Tarzan completes choked his ass off and died when he shouldn't? yeah
@@absolutedomination5254 You could even say that's Bwipo. We've seen it before
Exakick is nowhere near this play what the hell. This is game over for Jankos if he loses red buff
big fuck up from draven rell
Aaaaaaand, yep! It’s all over the screen!😅👊💦 DATTEBAYO, fellas!
Doesn’t even look like Poppy needs to Flash… it might’ve saved what, 3 seconds at most? Vi doesn’t deal 600+dmg to Gromp in 3 seconds.
looping around the baron pit is like 5-10 seconds up to the gromp, jankos is already done by then
@@phensanji2501
Analyzing it I can see going around it loses ≈ 5-6 seconds, and Vi deals ≈ 600dmg in 5 seconds, so it would be really close, I guess maybe you barely don’t make it without the Flash. Still would like to see it actually played out to check… also curious to know what the cutoff is in terms of how fast at clearing the enemy champion is.
poppy can straight run there without tower dmg if he practiced this at all
easier said than done my g. Why u hating from outside the club, you can't even get in xd
@@GabsBerges ISMA gets paid to practice lmao, it's such a simple thing
@@lemonhaze1506 We just back seaters. It's like a stadium fan telling players what to do. Maybe we are right, maybe we are wrong, but our opinion is worth as much as a cockroach
@@kevinnguyen8631 no , in this case , its not a maybe , ALL yordles can pass these 2 turrets , its a known fact for years , he should have practiced it
Everyone is better than pros these days. At least thats what they believe.
Oner from Ohio