Great jobbing getting that one done! 3/4" mix is usually pretty dicey through 2.5' line. We used to have a nice 3/4 blend mix around here which was pretty reliable pumping through up to about 150' of 2.5' hose. I've found with those rockier mixes, sometimes getting it wetter can actually make it more prone to segregation and tougher to pump. Gotta get yourself one of them plastic tubs which Jeff at Muddy Feet uses. I grabbed a few from Tractor Supply Company and they're great for underneath of the hopper while pumping. Comes in super handy when you gotta bust off at the reducer and beat/drain out a plug. Another great video. Looking forward to many more 👌👌👌
@canadianconcretepumper1979 I am definitely excited to learn how to run it, though. I hope we get a few days of learning with the current owner. They run 3 trailers, it's him and his 2 sons who run them. He has a new rig on the way, so he is parting ways with one to help make that good payment on the new one coming in.
@@fronabargerconveyingpumping we’re typically $10-$20 per hour less than the 32M boom, but if you’re the only guy in your area with a line-pump, you could very well charge the same (not too many guys willing to drag hose these days).
@@ConcretePumpingService how well do the slick packs work for you ? We use cement the slick packs are only good for steel slick line they usually rock up in rubber 75to 100 ft it segregates the rocks .
I have a love/hate relationship with slick pak 2. When using them, I would always mix it in the hopper. Always a hit or miss if it is going to work. Would turn the volume up and let her buck, praying it would make it. After plugging up on my “pump back into the truck” video, I’ve started putting plastic bags on the clamps on downhill or level pumps and pump it slow. I have had great success doing it that way (this video and my wall hook video). Recently I’ve been putting it right into the elbow like bentonite. Sprinkle a little in there, squirt some water, sprinkle some more, more water, alternating until you can see water in the elbow. I only use slick pak 2 now on shotcrete so the crew doesn’t have to worry about contaminating the pool with bentonite. I’ve been using bentonite on my long pumps and have only plugged once since I’ve started using it.
Thanks brother! I'm really starting to get comfortable blowing out. The last few have been really good. Next shotcrete job, ill try to do my pinch off trick on the 2" hose! It was a 3/8" quartz mix. That's what I usually have them order except this ready mix company didn't have the mix design dialed in since I don't use them very often.
@@BenBNC stand 15-20ft back from the end of the hose, when you feel the plug go by, grab the hose and pinch it off. This stops a lot of the built up pressure behind the plug and significantly reduces the blow at the end. Its hard to do with the bigger hose as it doesn't kink near as easy. Next time I do it, ill make a short video so i can upload it right away.
I will keep that in mind for future mixes! I actually could of done this a couple days ago because I got a mix from a ready mix company I have never used and, once again, they had too much rock.
@@ConcretePumpingService just turn the volume down which will keep the material on the stone having the volume up high will just take the material off the stone and leave you with stone
You need to not choke down that fast. Stretch out your reducers will take a lot of back pressure off the pump. Also anytime you are going from worn to new hose ends or reducers it will have the tendency to try and plug
I will argue all day free bags are the best thing to use to blow out! Whether it’s a mortar mix bag or a plastic bag. I have some nerf balls but then I’d have to find them after and if I don’t, there goes 4 bucks!
It works so well! The slick pak 2 can be very runny mixing it in the hopper. If I have to prime with slick pak on either a down hill or even a flat surface, I will bag it. I used bags on my wall foundation video and primed that out in one shot.
Was this not a pumpable concrete mix design??...with too much rock per cubic yard?..not enough sand?? It's so annoying that what's supposed to be a simple pump job turns into a problem job.
My guess is too much rock! I’ve had my pump act like this before but not near this aggressive. When we were trying to figure out a mix through a different read mix company, I had a couple loads pump like this. Told them to dial down the rock and now i never have an issue.
@@ConcretePumpingService They should have quality concrete control guys that come up with mix designs for 2 1/2" and 3" and even 2" lines. 99% of the concrete suppliers do this in my city, Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Yes, I think too much rock per cubic yard. Our mix designs usually have a maximum of 750-800 kg of rock per cubic metre of concrete.
I’m the only line pump in the area that I know of and I’m guessing all the booms run 3” or bigger off the end if they need some extra length. So the mix design professors haven’t really needed to have a mix designed for anything smaller. It was a real struggle trying to get a mix designed for my 2 1/2” line right when we started.
@@ConcretePumpingService I believe it. Maybe you have to work with the concrete companies to have your own mix design so it's pumpable friendly for your smaller hoses.
I have a specific mix for 2 of the 3 big suppliers in town but this one is the 3rd. I was surprised to see 3/8”, I was told it was going to be 1/2”. This mix is an easy fix: reduced the rock. For companies outside my normal zone, I always say 5/8” or smaller rock and ask for less of it and to specify that it’s going through a 2 1/2” line pump.
We were thinking about carrying a water tank on the truck with about 100 gallons just in case. We're going to be true rookies with a trailer after boom pumping for 18 years and belting for 20. Im gonna need your number for advice.
I’ve been running my trailer pump for only a year and a half! Stick with a long bed if you’re gonna have a water tank. My truck does the job just fine but I wish I had a long bed.
Also get a decent 12v water pump. gravity feed can sometime work against you while using a pressure washer and the water pump allows you to hook a hose up to it as well to use a hand nozzle. I explain my truck setup in this video ruclips.net/video/faiM98d1GjY/видео.html
Great jobbing getting that one done! 3/4" mix is usually pretty dicey through 2.5' line. We used to have a nice 3/4 blend mix around here which was pretty reliable pumping through up to about 150' of 2.5' hose. I've found with those rockier mixes, sometimes getting it wetter can actually make it more prone to segregation and tougher to pump.
Gotta get yourself one of them plastic tubs which Jeff at Muddy Feet uses. I grabbed a few from Tractor Supply Company and they're great for underneath of the hopper while pumping. Comes in super handy when you gotta bust off at the reducer and beat/drain out a plug.
Another great video. Looking forward to many more 👌👌👌
We will be showing our new machine very soon on some upcoming videos. The TK-50, it's a 2016 we are buying from a good owner.
@@fronabargerconveyingpumping Exciting stuff!!!! Those little TK series pumps are $$$ printing machines!!!
@canadianconcretepumper1979 we're actually not sure how to price the trailer. Thinking about charging the same rate as we do on our 38 or 32m.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 I am definitely excited to learn how to run it, though. I hope we get a few days of learning with the current owner. They run 3 trailers, it's him and his 2 sons who run them. He has a new rig on the way, so he is parting ways with one to help make that good payment on the new one coming in.
@@fronabargerconveyingpumping we’re typically $10-$20 per hour less than the 32M boom, but if you’re the only guy in your area with a line-pump, you could very well charge the same (not too many guys willing to drag hose these days).
Great video!!
Off the back of the pump try 5to5 elbow then reduce down 5 to 4 x 37”. 4 to 3 x 36” to 21/2 farther the better on a shitty mix
U R spot on sir. Stretching that reduction will help the machine pump better & drop that pump pressure for sure. Less wear & tear on ur machine.
I posted this video in hopes someone had an answer to my prayers. Thank you 🙏
@@ConcretePumpingService I also carry 5 3”x 10 ft slick lines And I was giving you shit because the bags were from TARGET 😂
@@ConcretePumpingService how well do the slick packs work for you ? We use cement the slick packs are only good for steel slick line they usually rock up in rubber 75to 100 ft it segregates the rocks .
I have a love/hate relationship with slick pak 2.
When using them, I would always mix it in the hopper. Always a hit or miss if it is going to work. Would turn the volume up and let her buck, praying it would make it. After plugging up on my “pump back into the truck” video, I’ve started putting plastic bags on the clamps on downhill or level pumps and pump it slow. I have had great success doing it that way (this video and my wall hook video). Recently I’ve been putting it right into the elbow like bentonite. Sprinkle a little in there, squirt some water, sprinkle some more, more water, alternating until you can see water in the elbow. I only use slick pak 2 now on shotcrete so the crew doesn’t have to worry about contaminating the pool with bentonite. I’ve been using bentonite on my long pumps and have only plugged once since I’ve started using it.
We got big aggregate here in Texas. We got to use 3in minimum and we have that exact same issue. It’s a pain but you got it out put nice job.
I think I’m going to have to bite the bullet and buy some 3”. The crushed quartz we use around here is much to jagged to try and push through 2 1/2”.
You crushed it on the blowout. Good work man!! I would have been very nervous to put that in my pump.
Thanks brother! I'm really starting to get comfortable blowing out. The last few have been really good.
Next shotcrete job, ill try to do my pinch off trick on the 2" hose!
It was a 3/8" quartz mix. That's what I usually have them order except this ready mix company didn't have the mix design dialed in since I don't use them very often.
@@ConcretePumpingServicewhat’s the pinch off trick?
@@BenBNC stand 15-20ft back from the end of the hose, when you feel the plug go by, grab the hose and pinch it off. This stops a lot of the built up pressure behind the plug and significantly reduces the blow at the end. Its hard to do with the bigger hose as it doesn't kink near as easy.
Next time I do it, ill make a short video so i can upload it right away.
You need to not try to force the concrete through take the volume down which will keep the sand and cement on the stone
I will keep that in mind for future mixes! I actually could of done this a couple days ago because I got a mix from a ready mix company I have never used and, once again, they had too much rock.
@@ConcretePumpingService just turn the volume down which will keep the material on the stone having the volume up high will just take the material off the stone and leave you with stone
You need to not choke down that fast. Stretch out your reducers will take a lot of back pressure off the pump. Also anytime you are going from worn to new hose ends or reducers it will have the tendency to try and plug
Also good spot for target bags 😂good job getting it done
I will argue all day free bags are the best thing to use to blow out! Whether it’s a mortar mix bag or a plastic bag. I have some nerf balls but then I’d have to find them after and if I don’t, there goes 4 bucks!
Why did you use the bags?? So the primer didn’t run straight down hill and not prime the whole hose??
Exactly why I use the bags!
Explain the bag trick. Does it keep the priming slurry from running all the way down before the concrete? Is that a trick you only use on declines?
You are spot on! I use it on declines and sometimes on level ground to ensure a successful prime out.
Do you not like sponges?
Turn the volume down
How does the bag work?
The bag stops the primer from running ahead of the concrete! Poke a hole to allowed the air to go through so it doesn’t rupture.
@@ConcretePumpingService That's an Awesome idea, especially on down slopes. Thank you Im going to use that idea.
It works so well! The slick pak 2 can be very runny mixing it in the hopper. If I have to prime with slick pak on either a down hill or even a flat surface, I will bag it. I used bags on my wall foundation video and primed that out in one shot.
Was this not a pumpable concrete mix design??...with too much rock per cubic yard?..not enough sand?? It's so annoying that what's supposed to be a simple pump job turns into a problem job.
My guess is too much rock! I’ve had my pump act like this before but not near this aggressive. When we were trying to figure out a mix through a different read mix company, I had a couple loads pump like this. Told them to dial down the rock and now i never have an issue.
@@ConcretePumpingService They should have quality concrete control guys that come up with mix designs for 2 1/2" and 3" and even 2" lines. 99% of the concrete suppliers do this in my city, Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
Yes, I think too much rock per cubic yard. Our mix designs usually have a maximum of 750-800 kg of rock per cubic metre of concrete.
I’m the only line pump in the area that I know of and I’m guessing all the booms run 3” or bigger off the end if they need some extra length. So the mix design professors haven’t really needed to have a mix designed for anything smaller. It was a real struggle trying to get a mix designed for my 2 1/2” line right when we started.
@@ConcretePumpingService I believe it. Maybe you have to work with the concrete companies to have your own mix design so it's pumpable friendly for your smaller hoses.
I have a specific mix for 2 of the 3 big suppliers in town but this one is the 3rd. I was surprised to see 3/8”, I was told it was going to be 1/2”. This mix is an easy fix: reduced the rock.
For companies outside my normal zone, I always say 5/8” or smaller rock and ask for less of it and to specify that it’s going through a 2 1/2” line pump.
We were thinking about carrying a water tank on the truck with about 100 gallons just in case. We're going to be true rookies with a trailer after boom pumping for 18 years and belting for 20. Im gonna need your number for advice.
I’ve been running my trailer pump for only a year and a half! Stick with a long bed if you’re gonna have a water tank. My truck does the job just fine but I wish I had a long bed.
Also get a decent 12v water pump. gravity feed can sometime work against you while using a pressure washer and the water pump allows you to hook a hose up to it as well to use a hand nozzle. I explain my truck setup in this video ruclips.net/video/faiM98d1GjY/видео.html