A "dropping" in the Netherlands usually takes place when it is dark, but certainly not in the middle of the night. People, young and old, are dropped off in small groups in a pocket-size wood with the help of a darkened car/bus somewhere but always within walking distance of home and from there they find their way back to the starting point as soon as possible. It's a lot of fun and not creepy at all. Afterward, there will be things as hot chocolate and of course there is always a serious check to see whether everyone has arrived again.
when i was on summer camp there even was an adult with every dropped group. they would just not help find the way, but there to make sure no kids would get lost or taken by creeps, and to organise support if someone got injured or sick.
When I was in my teens we were in Germany with a group of young men in a school holiday. We were dropped in the evening, but we were so busy to find our way back, that it took the whole night, in this totally unknown area. If one of us had had communication skills in German, it was of no use, because there was nobody around, just we.
i guess if you like food poisoning and really low nutritional value. as the average politician is full of sh*t and "gebakken lucht" they make less good food than "pink goo" burgers at mcdonalds. 🤣
Regarding protected dairy, supposedly the reason we don't have "pindaboter" (peanut butter) but pindakaas (peanut cheese) is that butter was also a food item that was a protected term. The word was also imported from Suriname, where the peanut product they had there was in large blocks that were cut like cheese into slices.
Peanut butter is butter nor cheese. its just peanuts ground into a paste, so we should just have named it pindapasta just like we name chocoladepasta. or smeerpinda. just like smeerkaas. We dutch love to overcomplicate things
Droppings were great! I always loved them. It's a good educational way to learn for children how to cooperate and learn that the outside world isn't a scarry place
Yesterday this article on the length of Dutch people was published in the AD newspaper: Two hundred years ago, the Dutch were on average one of the smallest peoples in Europe. We are now officially the tallest people in the world. Milk consumption plays a crucial role in this. "Particularly in the past hundred years, there have been many social developments that have promoted the height growth of Dutch people," says Gert Stulp, sociologist at the University of Groningen. "Food became of increasingly better quality and more was available for the entire population. We have also managed to contain many diseases through good healthcare. And being sick less means that there is more energy left for growth, so people grow taller.” But that also happened in other places in the world. Why have the Dutch become so tall? "Another factor that plays a role is the equal distribution of prosperity in a country. In the US, where there is more inequality than in the Netherlands, you also see that people grow shorter on average. In an unequal society, many people do not have access to healthy food due to poverty. That large, poor group then remains small because when they were children they simply did not receive enough nutrients to grow properly." When prosperity is distributed more equally, this process reverses, Stulp says: "The rich group then becomes slightly less rich, but they still have access to healthy food. The growth of their children does not decrease. But the poorer group becomes much richer, which means they all have more access to healthy food, and their children therefore grow a lot longer." A specific food product played a major role in this: milk. Stulp: "Milk contains a lot of proteins, which have a particularly strong effect on growth." It is not self-evident that we could consume this extra protein source at all. Unlike elsewhere in the world, many Europeans have a genetic adaptation for digesting milk. "Most people can only digest milk as a baby, as an adult they get stomach and intestinal cramps: they are then lactose intolerant. But Europeans have a gene that allows us to continue drinking milk our entire lives. So we therefore have milk as an extra source of protein in our diet for a longer period of time. The extra proteins make you taller. This is also seen in other groups of people who can drink milk for longer. Most Kenyans cannot digest milk when they grow up, but the Masai can and therefore are a lot taller than other tribes in Kenya. --- I posted this reaction after finishing my whole wheat cheese sandwich and a mug of icecold milk.
Someone may have said this already, but I scrolled down quite a bit and couldn't find anyone mentioning; The reason why it's called Oat Drink instead of Oat Milk is because of European regulation pushed by the agricultural lobby. They argued consumers would be confused, but in reality it's for their own gain as they feared a drop in sales. There was even a more strict motion by some French politician arguing for even stricter guidelines prohibiting the sale of plant based foods in 'from animals' packaging (like oat milk not being allowed to be sold in milk cartons), but that got squashed.
My favorite activity at the summer scout camps: dropping... "creeping" in the dark, finding your own way back, on your own as a 12 year old makes you feel very competent... don't think that's bad for children. Did me good ;-)
In my youth, when a dropping was organized, they put all the participants in a blinded cattle truck, just like pigs or cows and transferred them to the dropping zone. Mostly you get a paper with assigments and some clues about how to walk. It is also usual by a dropping that somewhere halfway there is post with pea soup with sausage.
The V.O.C. was not only the first company with free tradable stocks, it was also the first multinational. And the largest company that ever existed until today. Until the 19th century Indonesia wasn’t a colony of the Netherlands. It was controlled by the V.O.C.
A dropping is fun. I did this as a kid. And to be fair, walk in any direction for less than 20 minutes and you do find yourself back in civilasation (a road or trail). From there, follow till you find a sign, work out which direction you need to find home base. It's really easy here. Wouldn't try that in the US... that is way less populated.
@@ronaldderooij1774 Ja ik ben oud. Ze hadden zelfs een actie waarbij je moest scoren hoeveel melk je dronk en als het genoeg was, dan mocht je verkeersbrigadier worden. Weet je dat nog? Ik heb het nooit gehaald.
Johan de Witt is perhaps the greatest statesman of the Netherlands. I.e. he is, among other things, a founder of insurance mathematics. We honor him with a lot of statues throughout the country.
Ironically, his indirect murderer William III, is a direct contender for the title of "greatest statesman of the Netherlands'". He stopped Louis XIV conquering large parts of Europe.
No idea why people keep saying this about De Witt. He allowed the army to decay into nothing while we were surrounded by aggressive powers and in so doing he almost lost the entire country within a generation of it gaining its independence. Johan de Witt was *NOT* a great statesman. He was in it for revenge, his policies (including for seeking confrontation) were based totally on making money and nothing else. Johan de Witt was a crap statesman.
@@jpvdw70 wouldn't call him the greatest either ... he made a strategic mistake to mess with the House of Orange. he also underestimated France being a threat.
I did participate in several droppings. Both with school camp and with the (Boy) Scouts. Especially with Scouting it was a thing that was done very single time we went on a camp. Did several in winter as well which we called a "Poltocht" (a polar hike). I remember we were at Jamboree and some countries (not just the Dutch) tought nothing of it while other countries were shocked and "think of the children, they can't do that"
As others have said about droppings: In the Netherlands, you are never that far away from civilization. Probably the only other countries where you possibly could do droppings are Belgium and Luxemburg. In the US, you could walk for miles and not see anything human. Also: in the US, you have a lot more dangerous predators like cougars, bears and wolves.
Droppings in the Netherlands are quite safe. No forest is big enough to be lost for a few hours tops, mostly within 15 minutes you'll find a ANWB paddestoel, small direction pole, with directions and distances on it. Don't try this in the Rockies. ;)
In the vast majority of countries you cannot organize "dropping" with children, as we do in the Netherlands. But the Netherlands is so densely populated that you cannot walk a kilometer anywhere without encountering signposts. These children find it exciting, but they will come back automatically.
and no bears around, nowadays wolves but they probably avoid a group of people. We did not have those in my dropping days I wonder if they are allowed mobile phones these days.
The fact that children in the Netherlands are more independent is because of the saver environment and because they get to know the area better while cycling with parents. In a car you see less, so you learn less about the environment.
I was a scout as a kid, participated in dropping, but I can tell you they wouldn't do this if the group doesn't have the intelectual means of finding their way
They would never leave the children unguarded either, there would always be someone in the group with enough experience to find their way back, and the group small enough to not lose anyone.
@@williamgeardener2509 Well, I wouldn't know about this new generation but I can't imagine scouting itself has gotten worse as to not teach the actual skills
There is 2 words one:: scouts , they are supposed tobdo stuff in a forest . And you are in a group of 4-5 children . And coaches are not thst faroff. It is still with tarmac roads ... Two : it is th Netherlands, so ypu won't get lost in a massive forest with pumas and bears like in Nrth America.
Droppings are great, but to be fair, If they are properly organized the kids won't just be dropped off in the woods without any regards for their safety. At least one of them will probably have a phone or a walkie-talkie for cases of emergency, which they can also use if at some point they wish to admit defeat and get help finding the home base. Also, a bunch of adults might be deployed around the area where the kids are dropped to prevent them from getting totally lost or from wandering into dangerous areas, or just to be nearby and able to jump in when the kids scream for help.
@@JohnBlutarski That might be true, or... they might just not have told you about it. They might have given it to one or two kids and told them to keep it secret unless it was actually needed.
We had a lot of droppings but we never had a cell phone or a walkie talkie or whatever! Nobody had a cell phone back in those days. But there were adults driving around to make sure we weren't completely lost sometimes.
It is not certain that Johan de Witt was partially eaten. There is a source that says that, but it is not confirmed by any other source, so could be 17th century propaganda. As for droppings, my son had a school dropping, I think he was 11 years old. So, not that young. And they were dropped in the polder, a few km out of town, indeed around midnight. He found it a very educational experience, especially as within his group there were constant disagreements about the best way back to school. So, as Dutchies are, they agreed to disagree and split up into several factions and all factions found their own way back to school. I mean, you need that stubborness if you fight the ocean for your life, and are surrounded by much bigger neighbouring countries. (England, France and Germany) and still survive. "Je maintiendrai" (I will persevere, in the coat of arms of the Netherlands).
I remember as a kid we were on school camp and we had a dropping we got totally lost and ended up in an area that was used by the militairy. At first I thought the soldier that came up to us was part of the dropping (they often use dressed up actors in a dropping for clues and monitoring) but yeah this was a legit soldier, lol. He did escort us back to civilisation though which was nice of him to do.
6:15 That's exactly why a dropping is so good. You learn tactics to navigate and survive. And The Netherlands is so small, It never took us long to get back to civilization.
It not like we suddenly surprise the little tyke's by dropping them in a wood and then go to bed, expecting them to show up somewhere in the next week clad in wolfs fur and a necklace of the ears of the enemies attacked them along the way (that's optional). The places are generally scouted beforehand, the brats know what's expected of them and you can bet there's enough adults around the place, not-quite-but-a-little-bit-worried that they didn't miscount them and that none of the little devil's try to play a prank and fall asleep in a ditch somewhere. We DO care about the little nuisances, though God knows why sometimes.
Ik heb als boy-scout heel wat droppings meegemaakt. In het donker, alleen en best bang af en toe, maar toch alleen maar goede herinneringen eraan. Maar melk heb ik altijd gehaat. Op de lagere school al toen je dat verplicht moest drinken bleh … toch ben ik groot en sterk geworden. 1,80 m, 77 jaar oud en fit. Dank je Eva, ik geniet van je grappige, gekke presentaties.
I had my first 'dropping' as a group leader and it was SO fun. I've laughed my ass off. Never experienced this as a child/teen so to see this from another pov was just so funny to me. They received a picture of their goal destination and were dropped in a small town/forest nearby, whilst 'police' (group leaders) were patrolling and if they were seen by police they had to hand in some 'money'. So, the whole town was floodwd with children jumping in people's gardens or in bushes. It was so funny and choatic.
droppings are fun, and yes, there is oversight from adults. but from a distace. but droppings are held with young teenagers. not kinds under 10 years old
Well I don't know about today, but .I got dropped age 10. Yes this was more then 30 years ago and adults were watching us from a distance. But we didn't know that, so it was quite an adventure.
4:20 just like pindakaas.. butter is protected aswell... and peanutbutter came from Surinam, where it was sliced of bars of penutpaste.. looked like slicing cheese, hence they named it peanut cheese, because it isn't dairy produce.
7:06 oh yeah, my mother worked in the HoReCa business when me and my sister were children. She sometime had to work till late or work the midday to evening shift. When we were really young she’d ask grandma, her best friend or the neighbors most of the times or get a babysitter. However, around when i was 12 and my sister was 13 she’d make sure dinner was in the fridge to microwave and either the neighbors or grandma and grandpa were at the very least on call if something were to happen. Then at around me being 14 and my sister being 15 she’d make sure that there were at least ingredients to make dinner at home. We’d often watched or helped mother in the kitchen so from the age of 12 i already knew how make a good sunny side up egg or omelette.
no the stock market was not invented for "financial gaming", it was a consequence of being a small country, not centralized ( the decision making and the financing of it did not dependent on a royal court decision) so from the very start of their world discovery and colonisation (just 1,7 million inhabitants in the 1600) they had to find associates to share the risk, and being just individuals, (not big religious, aritocratic or rich commercial groups as England, France and Spain could have) they were risking a lot, so they wanted to spread their money on different shippments with different destinations and timings... that's why the idea of a financial market arose : "just buy a part of it, not all"
My Dutch husband finds it weird that they don't do dropping in America. He thinks it's great for learning self sufficiency and says he had a blast doing it as a kid
When we were daydropped in the 80's we found twentyfive guilders. and a dog tied to a tree..so when we didn't arrive on time for dinner,they started a search ...they finally found us in the snackbar ...still with the dog which we brought to an.asylum the next day ..as you can imagine...for twelve year old boys and girls it was quite an adventure...
Today in Dutch news you hear a 3 year old child went missing! Then the police find her at the grocery store, because she sneaked out of the house and went shopping. 😄
A dropping is mostly done at ‘Scouting’ which are The Scouts in US. I was a Scout when I was young and the droppings are so cool!! There always was an adult with us but as far as I can remember the kids figured out where to go.
Dropping is fun and not dangerous. It's very controlled the kids think they are on themselves, but that's far from the truth. They are watched all the time. If something goes wrong help is not fat at any time. The kids have a great time not knowing. Don't get me started on Drop 🙂
Dutch forsts are mostly very safe . Only a few forsts have wild boar or wolves in them and you would not drop children in those forests. Plus all forest have massive amounts of paths in them. Wallk 500m in any direction (but choosing a direction is better) and you will find a path. You can probably tell north from the location of the Pole star so from any path it will be evident where you want to go You walk on the path and then you just walk out of the forest.
Oat drink is labeled as such due to regulatory requirements. Calling it 'oat milk' is considered misleading regulatory-wise because its production process is entirely different from that of mammalian milk. This labeling is unrelated to the Dutch people's love for cow's milk.
Droppings were always so much fun! When we were at a scouts camp we always hoped they would wake us up in the middle of the night to "kidnap" us and do a droping. Our droppings were always in the middle of the night, but our "woods" are not the same as the woods in the US and because children go to school on their own from age 6 or 7 they know their way everywhere. Most droppings we were back in 1 or 2 hours.
In the park opposite my house, a few droppings occur each summer ( _more about this naming later_ ). The sounds emerging from that _fenced_ "forest" is clearly one of joy. Happy high-pitched chatter suddenly changed into a very much higher-pitched AAAHEEEEEEEE! when a creep with a profound base yells "BHOO". The next group you hear the said chatter changes to a tense chatter because "something was heard happen around here. I almost can count down to the following "BHOO". The houses around this park get a letter explaining upcoming droppings ( _it is called droppings in the Dutch letter, and I always envision something a bird elects_ ) with dates and times. The youngest get Hansel-Greteled just after sundown, and the oldest still before 0:00. We have a rather responsible scouting in our little town. Only the oldest children 12 to 15 drop in those tiny hours.
When I went to “Texelkamp” in the final grade of elementary school our class was split up in smaller groups and everyone was dropped somewhere on Texel at around 8pm (at different locations) to find our homebase somewhere in the woods where the teachers made a bonfire and had nice things to eat and drink and where we continued to activities together xD superfun memories 👍
What I used to play instead of dropping during school camps is 'levend stratego' (living stratego). You know, the board game but then in real life. Wait until the absolute dead of night, then go out with the whole class, divide the group into two teams red and blue. Hide the 'flag', which is usually a table cloth or dish cloth in the middle of the woods. And then you play. You just walk and if you come across someone of the other team who is higher in rank, you lose your position. You return to 'base' where you receive a new position. The first team who finds the flag of the other team wins. One difference with the board game though: there are walking bombs. They are invincible except for miners of course. You have to play it in the woods but once I played this on the beach, even though the beach is wide open it's still hard to see anything cause it is the middle of the night. So much fun.
I think a lot of the independence kids have is simply because the Netherlands is much smaller and connected than the US is. Most forests here for example are small enough that a preteen could walk from the center of it in any random direction and even if they took the longest path they'd still be quite able to walk out of it. Also because the forests are so small in my experience they generally have decently maintained paths throughout. I've never participated in organizing one as an adult, but it wouldn't surprise me if they also just have some observers watch the main paths in and out of the forest. Our towns are also smaller and have good bike infrastructure so it's both safe and time efficient for kids to bike or even walk to school on their own.
Often when we are on the road, I challenge my children to show us the way. I guide them in looking at the environment. Not only do I discuss what landmarks there are, but we also have conversations about who you can trust best and why, in case you do need help and your parents are not around. It’s free (gratis 😊) and like a favorite game to them, which only benefits to their self-confidence.
There is another ‘dairy’ product unavailble in The Netherlands: peanutbutter. You can eat as much as you want of it but you can’t buy it. The stuff is on the shelf labelled as pindakaas, peanutcheese if you translate. Boter, butter in english, is a protected word so pindaboter did not happen. You find the pindakaas next to the hazelnootpasta and the chocoladepasta. Google them. Don’t ask me why pindakaas happened and pindapasta did not. As write this I realise that I should be begging every english speakers forgiveness 😢
Droppings were not just a scout's activity. When I was a kid we had droppings when we were on a school camp or something. I've always liked droppings, roaming the land in the middel of the night, no idea where you were or where to go. Just great.
Dropping...as a scout with a compass and being driven for more than an hour in the dark, finding the spot to get hot chocolate at indeed about 3 o'clock in the morning finding your way back to base camp. Fond memories!
Dropping was definitely the highlight of my time in school. Everyone was looking forward to it for years. My school always did it in both grade 7 and 8, when kids are between 10-12 years old. Good thing to keep in mind for foreigners here is that we live in a small country with small “forrests” so in reality you are never really that far from civilization. Also there’s hardly any large wildlife here except for an occasional deer. So that makes it a lot less dangerous than what people from other countries might imagine.
Another bit of research they did on why the Dutch are tall is that tall people in the Netherlands had more kids than short ones. This trend started over 100 years ago. Read it on the BBC site somewhere. I think it's that and diet.
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In some aereas there was among farmers (and others) the custom, that when a boy gets 18 years, he was given 15$; he had to go abroad 2 years, was not allowed to have contact with police or friends/family. After that--if done good--he was send to competition a period, to learn the trade. After that he was allowed to take over company of his father. In Germany: the same.
Licorice Mentos!! Also my school did a dropping. Only we got dropped at a farm field. We got told that we just had to go in a certain direction. Ultimately we ended up in a completely opposite direction. After 3 hrs they came to search for us and brought us back to the camp site.
On #2 'milk': the most protected dairy product is actually butter. The one you use for your bread in most cases is plant based and called 'halvarine'. The one you use for cooking is also plant based in most cases and is called 'margarine'. The only 'butter' is 'roomboter'. Only products with roomboter may be named 'boter' (like: kruidenboter, or cookies and cakes ''gemaakt met echte/room boter' ('made with real butter'). Recently the new product by Blue Band 'room beter' was ruled to be misleading. But yes, in daily use, all these plant/soy based products are called 'boter' too.
We used to produce so much milk that we had a milk “lake” (and a butter “mountain”). To get rid of it they advertised that we should drink 3 glasses of mik a day. The advertising character was called Joris 3-pinter (as in 3 pints).
As for the 'dropping', note that there are no huge forests in the netherlands. Walk in a wood in any direction, and you will get to a numered road in 2 hours max. from that point you can easily find your way back to wherever.
1:25 Couldn't you have made that sound a little softer? 6:36 Congratulations on your Dutch citizenship! 12:04 Do you know the RUclips channel called Jovi's Home?
Ik ben al best lang één van de 10%! Dit was weer een hele leuke! Vooral die montage na het gegeven dat een ander maar een video moet maken over voors en tegens van internationale bedrijven in Nederland. 😂😂😂 En nu Johan de Witt googelen.... opgegeten?????
There is also the animal sound game, Children hide in the woods when its dark and make animal noises and other children have to find them by listening to the noises.
I think the word milk being protected is not only in the Netherlands but in many countries in Europe. Same goes for burger etc., there was a debate a while back about preventing veg products from being called like the animal version to not be "misleading to the consumers", if I remember correctly
About dropping: Holland is so small and dense. The ' woods' are so small and have so many walking paths and cycling paths with signs where to go that a 'dropping' is not as hard as you think...
I mean the dropping is pretty safe. For one we dont have forest thats stretch for hundres of kilometers. And the zone the kids are dropped off are also marked off with tape. Its really, reallly unlikely you’re going to get lost its more of a psychological thing than dropping kids somewhere and hoping they find their way back. Its very controlled and safe
I grew up in a Dutch community, immigrants from post-WW2, and they were proud if their cheapness; enjoyed it, bragged about and joked about it. My background is Swedish-Scot-ancesters-so cheapness was a real thing.
I think the social safety net is why a proportionally large number of people are willing to take the risk of working for themselves. Strong protection reduces risk, enabling more risktaking
Yes the dropping story is true, I participated in a few of them when I was young, exciting times! To be honest there always were some adults in the same woods to make sure nobody got completely lost….😅
De Witt wasn't the PM, he was only in charge of Holland. Yes Holland was the most powerfull province, but the House of Orange was still in charge of the Northern provinces
In Leiden they also eat the Mayor (van de Werff). But for a different reason. The city was attacked by the Spanish and they were starving the city. The mayor offered the people of the city his arm so they could eat it. Eventually they flooded the Spanish and won the battle. We still celebrate it every year on the 3th of October in Leiden. It is a big celebration!
Well, to be correct : Now you are a Dutchy... you have been assimilated.. (Congratulations, Ava !! ) BTW... those droppings are really fun.. you ought to try it. Actually they are safe for kids because the area where they are dropped is limited and adults are overseeing the event. The part of the Dutch being so tall is hardly related to drinking milk. Until the end of the 19th century epidemics of cholera and similar diseases were quit common and a regular occurrence due to the horrible sanetary circumstances in cities. That gradually changed at the end of the 19th century when sewers and a system of clean drinkingwater was introduced.
Congrats on getting the passport!! Concerning droppings, over here it is more than a game than a test. And it's not only about finding the way back but you aren't aloud to use roads and streets therefore there are guards at strategic point to 'catch' the groups using or crossing the roads. i loved them sooo much when I was young but it's a bit of a dying game since everyone has a mobile phone and can startup maps as soon as you are dropped...
About the 'Dropping' (that is the Dutch name) it always happens at night, a group of children is accompanied by an adult always. Sometimes children get lost and are found hours later. When I was a child I loved the activitie.
Well, I myself didn't participate in one, but it happens also by bright daylight that people are brought somewhere in a city or town they don't live in themselves and have to find their way to a certain address, building or landmark.
Little note: The dropping is a scouting thing, and not just something regular children do. In a lot of cases a dropping requires the skills you learned at scouting, like finding your way based on clues and stuff like a compass or a map. This is definitely not something that just happens for all children.
Droppings were/are certainly not only a scout thing. Droppings can be done as part of introduction periods on all kind of schools (middle school, highschool, university) including military schools (even the cavalry) to train walking on compass etc.
That dropping story reminded me of something a colleague told me. He has a nephew that visits his family a couple of times a year. He takes the train from Maastricht to a city near Leeuwarden. It is a distance of around 275 km and he travels it alone. I thought dang that is a pretty sensible kid, how old is he? He was 12!!! I smacked him on the head, what the heck bro! 😅 Apparently he and the parents of the kid didn't mind, so what do I know. (What surprised me most of this story is they are Vietnamese/Dutch, they tend to be a little more guarded usually?)
Ava, I’m working on my Aviation license to work in the Netherlands. I hope I can move here in a year. I hope I can get my citizenship and get it for my nephew and my sister
That practice of "dropping," where kids are taken out blindfolded to an unfamiliar location and left to find their own way home, was an occasional US Girl Scout/Boy Scout practice back in the 1960s and '70s, too, though that was also the era when people considered it safe for kids even as young as elementary school age to walk to school by themselves, to walk all over the place by themselves, for adults to hitchhike everywhere relatively safely, etc, a very different time. Nowadays in the US, kids can't even spontaneously meet and play together but have to have prearranged "play dates" with adult supervision for everything, and kids who are seen playing by themselves outside (admittedly a rare thing in the US these days), even in their own front yards, without adults visibly with them, can have the police called on them for child neglect, which sounds dystopian to me and would have been unimaginable to us back in the 60s and 70s.
The designation of non-dairy beverages as drinks is not specific to the Netherlands. It is an EU regulation that applies throughout the EU. The law was pushed through by the dairy industry, which was afraid of the increasing consumption of plant-based milk. They argued that consumers needed to be protected from errors and confusion. They had never had any problems with sun milk (sun screen).
The 3rd one, dropping in a forest, isn't only for scouts though. I've had camp with groups of children/adults and even at school, where we were sometimes dropped at night somewhere and we had to walk home. Lucky with adults with us. I hated it though because I hated walking. But the scenery however was awesome. And the "spookyness" was just hillarious. I do love it that we Dutch kids are so independent. Though sadly it's getting less nowadays.
Gefeliciteerd met je paspoort en Nederlands Burgerschap!
(Congratulations on the new passport and Dutch citizenship!
WOW... Congrats! ❤
A "dropping" in the Netherlands usually takes place when it is dark, but certainly not in the middle of the night.
People, young and old, are dropped off in small groups in a pocket-size wood with the help of a darkened car/bus somewhere but always within walking distance of home and from there they find their way back to the starting point as soon as possible.
It's a lot of fun and not creepy at all. Afterward, there will be things as hot chocolate and of course there is always a serious check to see whether everyone has arrived again.
Exactly my experience. Our sports club would organise this while at camp at the Veluwe.
Yeah, maybe she should have mentioned that our forests are really small. An American woulf not call them forests.
when i was on summer camp there even was an adult with every dropped group. they would just not help find the way, but there to make sure no kids would get lost or taken by creeps, and to organise support if someone got injured or sick.
When I was in my teens we were in Germany with a group of young men in a school holiday. We were dropped in the evening, but we were so busy to find our way back, that it took the whole night, in this totally unknown area. If one of us had had communication skills in German, it was of no use, because there was nobody around, just we.
I was never dropped till in the military at 20yo or so.
Since you're a vegetarian, I understand you find it strange to eat a politician. Completely normal in the Netherlands though.
Haha, thank you for the clarification!
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@@DutchAmericanoI believe “parlementariërs” is the term for people who’s diet solely consists of politicians…
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i guess if you like food poisoning and really low nutritional value. as the average politician is full of sh*t and "gebakken lucht" they make less good food than "pink goo" burgers at mcdonalds. 🤣
Regarding protected dairy, supposedly the reason we don't have "pindaboter" (peanut butter) but pindakaas (peanut cheese) is that butter was also a food item that was a protected term. The word was also imported from Suriname, where the peanut product they had there was in large blocks that were cut like cheese into slices.
wow! hoe interessant! Nooit geweten.
Peanut butter is butter nor cheese. its just peanuts ground into a paste, so we should just have named it pindapasta just like we name chocoladepasta. or smeerpinda. just like smeerkaas. We dutch love to overcomplicate things
Droppings were great! I always loved them. It's a good educational way to learn for children how to cooperate and learn that the outside world isn't a scarry place
Yesterday this article on the length of Dutch people was published in the AD newspaper:
Two hundred years ago, the Dutch were on average one of the smallest peoples in Europe. We are now officially the tallest people in the world. Milk consumption plays a crucial role in this.
"Particularly in the past hundred years, there have been many social developments that have promoted the height growth of Dutch people," says Gert Stulp, sociologist at the University of Groningen. "Food became of increasingly better quality and more was available for the entire population. We have also managed to contain many diseases through good healthcare. And being sick less means that there is more energy left for growth, so people grow taller.”
But that also happened in other places in the world. Why have the Dutch become so tall? "Another factor that plays a role is the equal distribution of prosperity in a country. In the US, where there is more inequality than in the Netherlands, you also see that people grow shorter on average. In an unequal society, many people do not have access to healthy food due to poverty. That large, poor group then remains small because when they were children they simply did not receive enough nutrients to grow properly."
When prosperity is distributed more equally, this process reverses, Stulp says: "The rich group then becomes slightly less rich, but they still have access to healthy food. The growth of their children does not decrease. But the poorer group becomes much richer, which means they all have more access to healthy food, and their children therefore grow a lot longer."
A specific food product played a major role in this: milk. Stulp: "Milk contains a lot of proteins, which have a particularly strong effect on growth." It is not self-evident that we could consume this extra protein source at all. Unlike elsewhere in the world, many Europeans have a genetic adaptation for digesting milk. "Most people can only digest milk as a baby, as an adult they get stomach and intestinal cramps: they are then lactose intolerant. But Europeans have a gene that allows us to continue drinking milk our entire lives. So we therefore have milk as an extra source of protein in our diet for a longer period of time. The extra proteins make you taller. This is also seen in other groups of people who can drink milk for longer. Most Kenyans cannot digest milk when they grow up, but the Masai can and therefore are a lot taller than other tribes in Kenya.
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I posted this reaction after finishing my whole wheat cheese sandwich and a mug of icecold milk.
Someone may have said this already, but I scrolled down quite a bit and couldn't find anyone mentioning;
The reason why it's called Oat Drink instead of Oat Milk is because of European regulation pushed by the agricultural lobby. They argued consumers would be confused, but in reality it's for their own gain as they feared a drop in sales.
There was even a more strict motion by some French politician arguing for even stricter guidelines prohibiting the sale of plant based foods in 'from animals' packaging (like oat milk not being allowed to be sold in milk cartons), but that got squashed.
My favorite activity at the summer scout camps: dropping... "creeping" in the dark, finding your own way back, on your own as a 12 year old makes you feel very competent... don't think that's bad for children. Did me good ;-)
And our forests aren't that big or dangerous, no bears or anything. Although we are getting wolves these days...
And for safety, some parents always followed the children at a discreet distance.
@@lbergen001 Nope, not in the school my son was on. Although they were not dropped in the woods, but just a few kilometers out of town in the polder.
And what she hasn't mentioned and this might be important: we were always 'dropped' in a group of 6 or more kids.
There is safety in numbers ;)
@@ronaldderooij1774 Because otherwise it wouldn't be a real dropping. The purpose of a dropping is to lose your child.
Note that "the woods" are much smaller in the Netherlands then the average woods in the US
In my youth, when a dropping was organized, they put all the participants in a blinded cattle truck, just like pigs or cows and transferred them to the dropping zone.
Mostly you get a paper with assigments and some clues about how to walk.
It is also usual by a dropping that somewhere halfway there is post with pea soup with sausage.
The V.O.C. was not only the first company with free tradable stocks, it was also the first multinational. And the largest company that ever existed until today. Until the 19th century Indonesia wasn’t a colony of the Netherlands. It was controlled by the V.O.C.
A dropping is fun. I did this as a kid. And to be fair, walk in any direction for less than 20 minutes and you do find yourself back in civilasation (a road or trail). From there, follow till you find a sign, work out which direction you need to find home base. It's really easy here. Wouldn't try that in the US... that is way less populated.
Not two glasses of milk a day but three -> Joris Driepinter!
och, moet 't?
Jij bent ongeveer 60 jaar of ouder.... (ik ook) drie glazen melk per dag, dat doet 't!
@@ronaldderooij1774 Ja ik ben oud. Ze hadden zelfs een actie waarbij je moest scoren hoeveel melk je dronk en als het genoeg was, dan mocht je verkeersbrigadier worden. Weet je dat nog? Ik heb het nooit gehaald.
@@jeroenbakker52oh jaa beslist, nou voel ik me oud. 🤣
Is schoolmelk nog een ding?
Johan de Witt is perhaps the greatest statesman of the Netherlands. I.e. he is, among other things, a founder of insurance mathematics. We honor him with a lot of statues throughout the country.
Als nazaat van Johan de Witt , ben ik het helemaal met je eens !
Ironically, his indirect murderer William III, is a direct contender for the title of "greatest statesman of the Netherlands'". He stopped Louis XIV conquering large parts of Europe.
No idea why people keep saying this about De Witt. He allowed the army to decay into nothing while we were surrounded by aggressive powers and in so doing he almost lost the entire country within a generation of it gaining its independence. Johan de Witt was *NOT* a great statesman. He was in it for revenge, his policies (including for seeking confrontation) were based totally on making money and nothing else. Johan de Witt was a crap statesman.
a lot? I only know two .. one of them overhere around the corner ...
@@jpvdw70 wouldn't call him the greatest either ... he made a strategic mistake to mess with the House of Orange. he also underestimated France being a threat.
I did participate in several droppings. Both with school camp and with the (Boy) Scouts. Especially with Scouting it was a thing that was done very single time we went on a camp. Did several in winter as well which we called a "Poltocht" (a polar hike). I remember we were at Jamboree and some countries (not just the Dutch) tought nothing of it while other countries were shocked and "think of the children, they can't do that"
As others have said about droppings: In the Netherlands, you are never that far away from civilization. Probably the only other countries where you possibly could do droppings are Belgium and Luxemburg. In the US, you could walk for miles and not see anything human. Also: in the US, you have a lot more dangerous predators like cougars, bears and wolves.
People with weapons and a short fuse too
'droppings' were definitely alsof a thing in Belgium (or at least Flanders and when I was a kid)
@@JanHouben Scouting is big in Belgium right? Droppings are always popular with scouts.
Ik maak me meer zorgen over de dealers en junks achter het winkelcentrum dan het parkje tussen onze wijk en de doorgaandeweg.
@@Treinbouwer precies. In het parkje heb je tenminste vriendelijke cruisende homo's die in het donker sociale controle uitoefenen. 😜
Droppings in the Netherlands are quite safe. No forest is big enough to be lost for a few hours tops, mostly within 15 minutes you'll find a ANWB paddestoel, small direction pole, with directions and distances on it. Don't try this in the Rockies. ;)
In the vast majority of countries you cannot organize "dropping" with children, as we do in the Netherlands. But the Netherlands is so densely populated that you cannot walk a kilometer anywhere without encountering signposts. These children find it exciting, but they will come back automatically.
Also less gun nuts here, which diminishes the risk
and no bears around, nowadays wolves but they probably avoid a group of people. We did not have those in my dropping days I wonder if they are allowed mobile phones these days.
No guns, no bears, quite safe.
Also, bars that stay open late will not serve beer to youngsters.
So no guns, no bears, no beers...
No Mountain lions, no lynx, no moose
Hey Ava, congrats on you guys pregnancy, missed that somehow. Besides that, welcome as a Dutch citizen proud to have you among us!
The fact that children in the Netherlands are more independent is because of the saver environment and because they get to know the area better while cycling with parents. In a car you see less, so you learn less about the environment.
I was a scout as a kid, participated in dropping, but I can tell you they wouldn't do this if the group doesn't have the intelectual means of finding their way
That's why it becomes a forgotten tradition. Today you wouldn't find enough kids with the necessary intellectual means to find their way back to base.
They would never leave the children unguarded either, there would always be someone in the group with enough experience to find their way back, and the group small enough to not lose anyone.
@@jeffafa3096 Well yeah someone with enough expience but a kid still
@@williamgeardener2509 Well, I wouldn't know about this new generation but I can't imagine scouting itself has gotten worse as to not teach the actual skills
There is 2 words one:: scouts , they are supposed tobdo stuff in a forest . And you are in a group of 4-5 children . And coaches are not thst faroff. It is still with tarmac roads ...
Two : it is th Netherlands, so ypu won't get lost in a massive forest with pumas and bears like in Nrth America.
Droppings are great, but to be fair, If they are properly organized the kids won't just be dropped off in the woods without any regards for their safety. At least one of them will probably have a phone or a walkie-talkie for cases of emergency, which they can also use if at some point they wish to admit defeat and get help finding the home base. Also, a bunch of adults might be deployed around the area where the kids are dropped to prevent them from getting totally lost or from wandering into dangerous areas, or just to be nearby and able to jump in when the kids scream for help.
I did droppings on camp at the end of the seventies without a walkie talkie or cell phone
@@JohnBlutarski That might be true, or... they might just not have told you about it. They might have given it to one or two kids and told them to keep it secret unless it was actually needed.
Hahah lol when we did a dropping there sure as hell weren't smartphones around. Don't remember too much about them honestly.
We had a lot of droppings but we never had a cell phone or a walkie talkie or whatever! Nobody had a cell phone back in those days. But there were adults driving around to make sure we weren't completely lost sometimes.
It is not certain that Johan de Witt was partially eaten. There is a source that says that, but it is not confirmed by any other source, so could be 17th century propaganda. As for droppings, my son had a school dropping, I think he was 11 years old. So, not that young. And they were dropped in the polder, a few km out of town, indeed around midnight. He found it a very educational experience, especially as within his group there were constant disagreements about the best way back to school. So, as Dutchies are, they agreed to disagree and split up into several factions and all factions found their own way back to school. I mean, you need that stubborness if you fight the ocean for your life, and are surrounded by much bigger neighbouring countries. (England, France and Germany) and still survive. "Je maintiendrai" (I will persevere, in the coat of arms of the Netherlands).
I remember as a kid we were on school camp and we had a dropping we got totally lost and ended up in an area that was used by the militairy. At first I thought the soldier that came up to us was part of the dropping (they often use dressed up actors in a dropping for clues and monitoring) but yeah this was a legit soldier, lol. He did escort us back to civilisation though which was nice of him to do.
Asking for directions is a primary survival skill. You're allowed to do that. 😉
6:15 That's exactly why a dropping is so good. You learn tactics to navigate and survive. And The Netherlands is so small, It never took us long to get back to civilization.
It not like we suddenly surprise the little tyke's by dropping them in a wood and then go to bed, expecting them to show up somewhere in the next week clad in wolfs fur and a necklace of the ears of the enemies attacked them along the way (that's optional).
The places are generally scouted beforehand, the brats know what's expected of them and you can bet there's enough adults around the place, not-quite-but-a-little-bit-worried that they didn't miscount them and that none of the little devil's try to play a prank and fall asleep in a ditch somewhere. We DO care about the little nuisances, though God knows why sometimes.
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Ik heb als boy-scout heel wat droppings meegemaakt. In het donker, alleen en best bang af en toe, maar toch alleen maar goede herinneringen eraan. Maar melk heb ik altijd gehaat. Op de lagere school al toen je dat verplicht moest drinken bleh … toch ben ik groot en sterk geworden. 1,80 m, 77 jaar oud en fit. Dank je Eva, ik geniet van je grappige, gekke presentaties.
I had my first 'dropping' as a group leader and it was SO fun. I've laughed my ass off. Never experienced this as a child/teen so to see this from another pov was just so funny to me. They received a picture of their goal destination and were dropped in a small town/forest nearby, whilst 'police' (group leaders) were patrolling and if they were seen by police they had to hand in some 'money'. So, the whole town was floodwd with children jumping in people's gardens or in bushes. It was so funny and choatic.
From dropping to drop. Well played!
droppings are fun, and yes, there is oversight from adults. but from a distace.
but droppings are held with young teenagers.
not kinds under 10 years old
Well I don't know about today, but .I got dropped age 10. Yes this was more then 30 years ago and adults were watching us from a distance. But we didn't know that, so it was quite an adventure.
Nowadays maybe...
My first dropping was around 9 years old.
My first dropping was when I was 9 years old. My cousin was with me and she was 8 at the time.
Congratulations! You look so happy, it seems like you are beaming with light!
4:20 just like pindakaas.. butter is protected aswell... and peanutbutter came from Surinam, where it was sliced of bars of penutpaste.. looked like slicing cheese, hence they named it peanut cheese, because it isn't dairy produce.
7:06 oh yeah, my mother worked in the HoReCa business when me and my sister were children. She sometime had to work till late or work the midday to evening shift.
When we were really young she’d ask grandma, her best friend or the neighbors most of the times or get a babysitter. However, around when i was 12 and my sister was 13 she’d make sure dinner was in the fridge to microwave and either the neighbors or grandma and grandpa were at the very least on call if something were to happen. Then at around me being 14 and my sister being 15 she’d make sure that there were at least ingredients to make dinner at home.
We’d often watched or helped mother in the kitchen so from the age of 12 i already knew how make a good sunny side up egg or omelette.
no the stock market was not invented for "financial gaming", it was a consequence of being a small country, not centralized ( the decision making and the financing of it did not dependent on a royal court decision) so from the very start of their world discovery and colonisation (just 1,7 million inhabitants in the 1600) they had to find associates to share the risk, and being just individuals, (not big religious, aritocratic or rich commercial groups as England, France and Spain could have) they were risking a lot, so they wanted to spread their money on different shippments with different destinations and timings... that's why the idea of a financial market arose : "just buy a part of it, not all"
In all those years you joining our country you should have notice that we are nuts haha nice video.
Haha, indeed, and now I permanently decided that I wanted in on the madness!
You are welcome Ava.@DutchAmericano
@@DutchAmericano Great people are allways welcome :)
My Dutch husband finds it weird that they don't do dropping in America. He thinks it's great for learning self sufficiency and says he had a blast doing it as a kid
It actually is a thing for some very wealthy people in the US. Usually it is done as part of a program like Outward Bound.
When we were daydropped in the 80's we found twentyfive guilders. and a dog tied to a tree..so when we didn't arrive on time for dinner,they started a search ...they finally found us in the snackbar ...still with the dog which we brought to an.asylum the next day ..as you can imagine...for twelve year old boys and girls it was quite an adventure...
And having spent Fl 25 on friet, frikandellen and bereklauwen......
Today in Dutch news you hear a 3 year old child went missing! Then the police find her at the grocery store, because she sneaked out of the house and went shopping. 😄
A dropping is mostly done at ‘Scouting’ which are The Scouts in US. I was a Scout when I was young and the droppings are so cool!! There always was an adult with us but as far as I can remember the kids figured out where to go.
Dropping is fun and not dangerous. It's very controlled the kids think they are on themselves, but that's far from the truth. They are watched all the time. If something goes wrong help is not fat at any time. The kids have a great time not knowing. Don't get me started on Drop 🙂
Dutch forsts are mostly very safe . Only a few forsts have wild boar or wolves in them and you would not drop children in those forests.
Plus all forest have massive amounts of paths in them. Wallk 500m in any direction (but choosing a direction is better) and you will find a path.
You can probably tell north from the location of the Pole star so from any path it will be evident where you want to go
You walk on the path and then you just walk out of the forest.
Our woods are like 300 meters bij 475 meters big and the most dangerous animal is a tough competition between the wild duck and the rabbit.
Oat drink is labeled as such due to regulatory requirements. Calling it 'oat milk' is considered misleading regulatory-wise because its production process is entirely different from that of mammalian milk. This labeling is unrelated to the Dutch people's love for cow's milk.
Droppings were always so much fun! When we were at a scouts camp we always hoped they would wake us up in the middle of the night to "kidnap" us and do a droping. Our droppings were always in the middle of the night, but our "woods" are not the same as the woods in the US and because children go to school on their own from age 6 or 7 they know their way everywhere. Most droppings we were back in 1 or 2 hours.
Congratulations, Youre one of us Dutchies now. zo blij voor jou.
In the park opposite my house, a few droppings occur each summer ( _more about this naming later_ ). The sounds emerging from that _fenced_ "forest" is clearly one of joy. Happy high-pitched chatter suddenly changed into a very much higher-pitched AAAHEEEEEEEE! when a creep with a profound base yells "BHOO". The next group you hear the said chatter changes to a tense chatter because "something was heard happen around here. I almost can count down to the following "BHOO".
The houses around this park get a letter explaining upcoming droppings ( _it is called droppings in the Dutch letter, and I always envision something a bird elects_ ) with dates and times. The youngest get Hansel-Greteled just after sundown, and the oldest still before 0:00. We have a rather responsible scouting in our little town. Only the oldest children 12 to 15 drop in those tiny hours.
It's so interesting to hear that your English-speaking accent sounds more Dutch now
Droppings are GREAT ‼️
I remember begging for a dropping for us older kids at theatercamp. We loved it. It's honestly fun. You should try it once.
When I went to “Texelkamp” in the final grade of elementary school our class was split up in smaller groups and everyone was dropped somewhere on Texel at around 8pm (at different locations) to find our homebase somewhere in the woods where the teachers made a bonfire and had nice things to eat and drink and where we continued to activities together xD superfun memories 👍
What I used to play instead of dropping during school camps is 'levend stratego' (living stratego). You know, the board game but then in real life. Wait until the absolute dead of night, then go out with the whole class, divide the group into two teams red and blue. Hide the 'flag', which is usually a table cloth or dish cloth in the middle of the woods. And then you play. You just walk and if you come across someone of the other team who is higher in rank, you lose your position. You return to 'base' where you receive a new position. The first team who finds the flag of the other team wins. One difference with the board game though: there are walking bombs. They are invincible except for miners of course. You have to play it in the woods but once I played this on the beach, even though the beach is wide open it's still hard to see anything cause it is the middle of the night. So much fun.
I think a lot of the independence kids have is simply because the Netherlands is much smaller and connected than the US is. Most forests here for example are small enough that a preteen could walk from the center of it in any random direction and even if they took the longest path they'd still be quite able to walk out of it. Also because the forests are so small in my experience they generally have decently maintained paths throughout. I've never participated in organizing one as an adult, but it wouldn't surprise me if they also just have some observers watch the main paths in and out of the forest. Our towns are also smaller and have good bike infrastructure so it's both safe and time efficient for kids to bike or even walk to school on their own.
Even in secondary schools, teachers usually refer to the students as students, not as children.
Often when we are on the road, I challenge my children to show us the way. I guide them in looking at the environment. Not only do I discuss what landmarks there are, but we also have conversations about who you can trust best and why, in case you do need help and your parents are not around. It’s free (gratis 😊) and like a favorite game to them, which only benefits to their self-confidence.
I have the BEST memories of droppings. Such a thrill!!!
There is another ‘dairy’ product unavailble in The Netherlands: peanutbutter. You can eat as much as you want of it but you can’t buy it. The stuff is on the shelf labelled as pindakaas, peanutcheese if you translate. Boter, butter in english, is a protected word so pindaboter did not happen. You find the pindakaas next to the hazelnootpasta and the chocoladepasta. Google them. Don’t ask me why pindakaas happened and pindapasta did not. As write this I realise that I should be begging every english speakers forgiveness 😢
"Melk is goed voor elk"
Probably also helped with the height that we got able to cook and preserve food. We love our meats for a reason 😊
Droppings were not just a scout's activity. When I was a kid we had droppings when we were on a school camp or something. I've always liked droppings, roaming the land in the middel of the night, no idea where you were or where to go. Just great.
Gefeliciteerd met je paspoort!
Dropping...as a scout with a compass and being driven for more than an hour in the dark, finding the spot to get hot chocolate at indeed about 3 o'clock in the morning finding your way back to base camp. Fond memories!
Dropping was definitely the highlight of my time in school. Everyone was looking forward to it for years. My school always did it in both grade 7 and 8, when kids are between 10-12 years old.
Good thing to keep in mind for foreigners here is that we live in a small country with small “forrests” so in reality you are never really that far from civilization. Also there’s hardly any large wildlife here except for an occasional deer. So that makes it a lot less dangerous than what people from other countries might imagine.
Another bit of research they did on why the Dutch are tall is that tall people in the Netherlands had more kids than short ones. This trend started over 100 years ago. Read it on the BBC site somewhere. I think it's that and diet.
In some aereas there was among farmers (and others) the custom, that when a boy gets 18 years, he was given 15$; he had to go abroad 2 years, was not allowed to have contact with police or friends/family.
After that--if done good--he was send to competition a period, to learn the trade.
After that he was allowed to take over company of his father.
In Germany: the same.
Licorice Mentos!!
Also my school did a dropping. Only we got dropped at a farm field. We got told that we just had to go in a certain direction. Ultimately we ended up in a completely opposite direction. After 3 hrs they came to search for us and brought us back to the camp site.
On #2 'milk': the most protected dairy product is actually butter. The one you use for your bread in most cases is plant based and called 'halvarine'. The one you use for cooking is also plant based in most cases and is called 'margarine'. The only 'butter' is 'roomboter'. Only products with roomboter may be named 'boter' (like: kruidenboter, or cookies and cakes ''gemaakt met echte/room boter' ('made with real butter'). Recently the new product by Blue Band 'room beter' was ruled to be misleading. But yes, in daily use, all these plant/soy based products are called 'boter' too.
We used to produce so much milk that we had a milk “lake” (and a butter “mountain”). To get rid of it they advertised that we should drink 3 glasses of mik a day. The advertising character was called Joris 3-pinter (as in 3 pints).
I remember another advertising campaign, possibly in the '80s, "melk de witte motor", milk the white motor.
As for the 'dropping', note that there are no huge forests in the netherlands. Walk in a wood in any direction, and you will get to a numered road in 2 hours max. from that point you can easily find your way back to wherever.
1:25 Couldn't you have made that sound a little softer?
6:36 Congratulations on your Dutch citizenship!
12:04 Do you know the RUclips channel called Jovi's Home?
I've liked your videos for years, thank you
Dropping, is the best❤
Gefeliciteerd met je nederlander schap
Ik ben al best lang één van de 10%! Dit was weer een hele leuke! Vooral die montage na het gegeven dat een ander maar een video moet maken over voors en tegens van internationale bedrijven in Nederland. 😂😂😂 En nu Johan de Witt googelen.... opgegeten?????
There is also the animal sound game, Children hide in the woods when its dark and make animal noises and other children have to find them by listening to the noises.
Zoethout tea is the best! And dropping is not only for scouts but also a common activity for schoolkamp of zomerkamp
I think the word milk being protected is not only in the Netherlands but in many countries in Europe. Same goes for burger etc., there was a debate a while back about preventing veg products from being called like the animal version to not be "misleading to the consumers", if I remember correctly
About dropping: Holland is so small and dense. The ' woods' are so small and have so many walking paths and cycling paths with signs where to go that a 'dropping' is not as hard as you think...
I mean the dropping is pretty safe.
For one we dont have forest thats stretch for hundres of kilometers.
And the zone the kids are dropped off are also marked off with tape.
Its really, reallly unlikely you’re going to get lost its more of a psychological thing than dropping kids somewhere and hoping they find their way back. Its very controlled and safe
Hello there! I just met you on the streets of Utrecht! ❤ Really funny!
Now you have dutch citizenship im looking forward to your next video in Dutch ;-)
Good luck on your parenthood! Both of you.Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
I grew up in a Dutch community, immigrants from post-WW2, and they were proud if their cheapness; enjoyed it, bragged about and joked about it. My background is Swedish-Scot-ancesters-so cheapness was a real thing.
I think the social safety net is why a proportionally large number of people are willing to take the risk of working for themselves. Strong protection reduces risk, enabling more risktaking
Yes the dropping story is true, I participated in a few of them when I was young, exciting times!
To be honest there always were some adults in the same woods to make sure nobody got completely lost….😅
list of countries that ate their pm: the netherlands
list of countries that didn't eat their pm: every other country
😂😂😂
De Witt wasn't the PM, he was only in charge of Holland. Yes Holland was the most powerfull province, but the House of Orange was still in charge of the Northern provinces
In Leiden they also eat the Mayor (van de Werff). But for a different reason. The city was attacked by the Spanish and they were starving the city. The mayor offered the people of the city his arm so they could eat it. Eventually they flooded the Spanish and won the battle. We still celebrate it every year on the 3th of October in Leiden. It is a big celebration!
Being resilient is also one the main values Dutch kids is been taught. (Life is tough, you know)
Compared to milk. In the USA you have peanut butter. This is also protected. That's why we have peanut cheese (pindakaas) in the Netherlands.
Well, to be correct : Now you are a Dutchy... you have been assimilated.. (Congratulations, Ava !! )
BTW... those droppings are really fun.. you ought to try it. Actually they are safe for kids because the area where they are dropped is limited and adults are overseeing the event.
The part of the Dutch being so tall is hardly related to drinking milk. Until the end of the 19th century epidemics of cholera and similar diseases were quit common and a regular occurrence due to the horrible sanetary circumstances in cities. That gradually changed at the end of the 19th century when sewers and a system of clean drinkingwater was introduced.
Congrats on getting the passport!! Concerning droppings, over here it is more than a game than a test. And it's not only about finding the way back but you aren't aloud to use roads and streets therefore there are guards at strategic point to 'catch' the groups using or crossing the roads. i loved them sooo much when I was young but it's a bit of a dying game since everyone has a mobile phone and can startup maps as soon as you are dropped...
Droppings are so much fun, we do it also at school camp. I am over fifty and I did it at school camp when I was young.
About the 'Dropping' (that is the Dutch name) it always happens at night, a group of children is accompanied by an adult always. Sometimes children get lost and are found hours later. When I was a child I loved the activitie.
Well, I myself didn't participate in one, but it happens also by bright daylight that people are brought somewhere in a city or town they don't live in themselves and have to find their way to a certain address, building or landmark.
We were not accompanied by an adult, just a bunch of kids. Maybe groups of 8-10 kids.
#3 sure did that! It's quite easy really and fun too!
Little note: The dropping is a scouting thing, and not just something regular children do. In a lot of cases a dropping requires the skills you learned at scouting, like finding your way based on clues and stuff like a compass or a map.
This is definitely not something that just happens for all children.
Droppings were/are certainly not only a scout thing. Droppings can be done as part of introduction periods on all kind of schools (middle school, highschool, university) including military schools (even the cavalry) to train walking on compass etc.
Why do you react with a complete false statement. It's not a little note but a big lie.
That dropping story reminded me of something a colleague told me. He has a nephew that visits his family a couple of times a year. He takes the train from Maastricht to a city near Leeuwarden. It is a distance of around 275 km and he travels it alone. I thought dang that is a pretty sensible kid, how old is he? He was 12!!! I smacked him on the head, what the heck bro! 😅 Apparently he and the parents of the kid didn't mind, so what do I know. (What surprised me most of this story is they are Vietnamese/Dutch, they tend to be a little more guarded usually?)
Ava, I’m working on my Aviation license to work in the Netherlands. I hope I can move here in a year. I hope I can get my citizenship and get it for my nephew and my sister
That practice of "dropping," where kids are taken out blindfolded to an unfamiliar location and left to find their own way home, was an occasional US Girl Scout/Boy Scout practice back in the 1960s and '70s, too, though that was also the era when people considered it safe for kids even as young as elementary school age to walk to school by themselves, to walk all over the place by themselves, for adults to hitchhike everywhere relatively safely, etc, a very different time. Nowadays in the US, kids can't even spontaneously meet and play together but have to have prearranged "play dates" with adult supervision for everything, and kids who are seen playing by themselves outside (admittedly a rare thing in the US these days), even in their own front yards, without adults visibly with them, can have the police called on them for child neglect, which sounds dystopian to me and would have been unimaginable to us back in the 60s and 70s.
The designation of non-dairy beverages as drinks is not specific to the Netherlands. It is an EU regulation that applies throughout the EU. The law was pushed through by the dairy industry, which was afraid of the increasing consumption of plant-based milk. They argued that consumers needed to be protected from errors and confusion. They had never had any problems with sun milk (sun screen).
in all fairness, we didn't have problems with politicians for centuries after that
The length has most to do with natural selection. Tall people tend to look for tall partners, hence their offspring tend to be tall too
Klinkt logisch.
But then the whole world would be tall
About the dropping thing "the middle of the woods" is a lot less dramatic than it sounds if you are familiar with the size of Dutch forests.
Congratz on your paspoort :) Welcome to the Netherlands :)
The 3rd one, dropping in a forest, isn't only for scouts though. I've had camp with groups of children/adults and even at school, where we were sometimes dropped at night somewhere and we had to walk home. Lucky with adults with us. I hated it though because I hated walking. But the scenery however was awesome. And the "spookyness" was just hillarious.
I do love it that we Dutch kids are so independent. Though sadly it's getting less nowadays.
Dropping was my favourite activity at Scoutingkamp.