According to Joseph Morris channel, A ticktocker recognised this man in the green shirt as Charles McKinnon, who is supposed to be friends on face book to Johnnie Jacobs, fisherman.
In an interview, Johnnie said that after he erase his calls, he didn't know what time it was so he called "Charles". Charles said it was 1:27. This makes no sense because Mica was at the gas station at that time.
For someone with such a Soft Heart, Mica had a lot of inner strength to put up with the monster (in my opinion). It's all so infuriating. To tell his wife, "You disgust me," and to hurt her by bragging about the mission trips... the emotional abuse is crazy!
Soft heart? Infidelity. Divorced. Participated in never ending sins along with her evil husband. Abused and manipulated?!Yes. Innocent angel? No. She chose the dark side over light at the end. Just looking from an objective point of view. The truth is bitter too often.
@@idea1469 People's brains don't fully develop until they're 25. She shouldn't have been married at 18 and 22. She was a child. I can only imagine the grooming going on from the age of 14. Perps will do things like hug a little too long on a kid and then blame them for making the perp "excited," and then the emotional abuse goes on. Look at what he's doing now. It's systematic abuse.
@@idea1469 Obviously, you have never lived through abuse, nor do you know how hard it is to get help from law enforcement when their hands are tied due to laws that haven't passed. I live in South Carolina and I have lived through abuse so I am speaking from experience. So many people these days speak without walking in another's shoes. We all need to love and try to be more understanding of others misfortunes.
Makes total sense now . She was told by him or someone that if she met up with him to sign the divorce papers, she would be free . That's why she didn't go to work,his bar ,they know she called in ,he had all the bases covered. Evil doesn't even describe him
Brittany, great reporting on this! Why are his hands folded like that? Very suspicious body language. He does seem to be keeping a close eye on Mica. There is more video of the location where she was found and they even found 4 bags of cement close by (see CJ's Crime Concepts on YT). There is NO way Mica did this. #JusticeForMica!
I thought the same thing. But you never know, some folks have a stroke and carry their arm in the other. It sounds like he’s been identified though and that could be easily debunked/researched.
Three men seemed to be watching Mica buy the gun. Charles, khaki pants black hat guy, and red shirt with child guy. Why doesn’t someone look at connections between the three? Two cars followed her to gas station? White car and black truck? Why did fisherman take his boat, and Mica’s fanny pack, home and then drive back in his car to bring the fanny pack back? Why didn’t he wait for police since he knew the other people in the parking area had called 911? Need all of the RUclips sleuths to look at all of the evidence. Don’t pick and choose pieces as this leaves out too much info.
😆😅😂🤣 Prove she was "kidnapped"... Especially since the police interviewed multiple people who saw her arrive at the park alone, and walk the trail alone As well as multiple people who saw/heard no one else during and after the shooting either on the trail or leaving the parking lot
I can’t stand how a murdering narcissist talks!! Blame blame blame. Lie lie. Then oh let me tell you something good that you’ll miss out on unless you come back to me now!!
These guys were making sure that Mica made it to the destination. JP had his lawyer call Mica to convince her that he had papers drawn up for her to sign. She thought it was a 50/50 chance it was bull shit. So she bought a gun for her safety just in case her intuition was right. I think when she got to the lawyers house, not at the state park, she was attacked. The fisherman's role was to validate the timeline. He said he heard crying and a single gunshot. Thats what he was supposed to say. Sounds more believable when he brings all her belongings back with the $500 back in her wallet. He must be trust worthy since he brought back the money. Mica didn't call 911 from her phone, that's why the 911 operator asked what number was she calling from. Mica said that they had a lot of assets together and that's what JP was protecting by setting this plot in motion. Everyone had a position in this murder. The fisherman was someone the lawyer brought in, not JP. The fisherman is going to bring all the truth to the surface. He along with the lawyer and JP and the watchers will all go to jail for the murder of Mica! Her car was placed there and her body was placed where it was found. Who do you think blotched this almost perfectly executed crime? Not the lawyer, not JP, but the idiot fisherman! Case closed!
Projecting...? 😆😅😂🤣 She cheated on her first husband... Then she started screwing a guy whom she knew was married with a family... And after marrying him seemingly started cheating on him... An aspect tassitly admitted to in her emails, messaging, and video "testimonials" where he accuses her of it and she doesn't respond with "No", but instead by saying things like "Yes I have sinned and asked for your forgiveness".
The security cams might have caught the vehicles of those guys in the pawn shop. If those vehicles are also caught at the gas station and park then that would be quite the coincidence.
To me the black guy looks like he is checking out a pretty woman. The white guy in the white van is way more sus imo. Also, JP has the be one of the biggest passive/aggressive *&%*%&'s in history!
Charlie McKinnon is a friend of Johnnie Jacobs. He was identified by a co-worker. You can verify that they know each other on FB. I took screenshots in case they deactivate their accts.
@@TrishaLynnDYI Hopefully the FBI or someone sees enough to get these guys under the microscope cause this is unreal. One of these guys will talk if they are under enough pressure. RUclips won't let me say what I really think of this Pas-hole JB.
That man has been identified... His name is Charles... He is the very same Charles who is friends with the fisherman & the fisherman called him at 1:27pm... He was seen in Facebook photos with the fisherman.... The fisherman who found Mica his friend Charles who he called when he heard the shot... Was in the pawn shop following Mica as she bought the gun... Someone needs to inform the police
I have to say allegedly , about this comment , but the guy in the green t shirt that ur video was about is ‘allegedly’ friend of the ‘fisherman ‘ that found micas bag and heard her scream ?! The fisherman slips up in one of his interviews and sd he spoke to Charles straight after the alleged scream and shot . Joseph morris does a live on it yesterday I think it was and he goes through it all and he more or less proves the connection …..
Yea I looked into it all and found the guys. I sent it to JLR because he would know if that in fact is Johnnie’s face. I doubt if there’s more than one Johnnie Jacobs with Charles McKinnon as his fishing buddy. He’s very creepy to me. I thought he was guilty from his first word. Now his story keeps changing and he keeps talking!
I would assume that her husband is not on his medication for starters and it could be that he was given the wrong medication not diagnosed himself properly where to buy, he's looking at others as having what he has, what about his business partners tracking both of them?
There is two P.I.s watching her In that pawn shop, they switch off. Whether when driving or watching up close. They switch so as to not seem too suspicious. The whole time she's being followed by two obvious P.I.s I wanna see this car that second guy was driving, because he's waiting outside the door once mica walks out and that first guy was in a white delivery van. Bet you the second guy was in a dark truck.
A commenter made an awesome observation that may turn this case! The gun case Mica bought was black. The gun case in her car was grey( with the sandwich next). Come on FBI.
Brittney if you get a chance view freedom voice online that man in the green shirt is stalking mica he's watching her this thing is unraveling may truth come out soon justice for Mica
Joseph Morris channel posted a video about the man in the green shirt last night. He has allegedy been identified by someone on tiktok as Charles McKinnon and was the Charles that the fisherman called at 1:27 allegedly.
@@healthismywealth9668 what? That's odd. I was thinking about how easy it was to ID Charles. I think some of the tips are intentionally put out to apply pressure on suspects by FBI. The FBI have agents working on social media. I saw a comment about Joseph Morris channel after I put mine and scrolled down to see someone had left the same info. I didn't catch if it was you or not. But I saw it.
Okay you know the fisherman said that he saw three people in a boat and ask them did they hear that shot I believe that the three people was actually him and the two men that were in the pawn shop where Micah what was that I believe that the fishermen got scared that's why he brought back Micah belongings and the 2000 dollars that was it her purse I believe that was his part that he was getting paid for so therefore there was 2500 in her purse not just $500 he admits that he called his buddy Charles hey let that slip and Charles is the same guy that was in the pawn shop when Micah was there how do you believe all three men were involved
This man in the store is Charles McKinnon who is good friends with the fisherman. Not sure why nobody is talking about this. The fisherman also said he called “Charles” an hour before her death and said he heard a gunshot.
There is a different video with a different guy that was more creepy. He had a dark shirt with a red stripe across the shoulder and left in a white van. Have you seen that one? I think JLR investigates had that one one yesterday,
Just curious if investigators are looking into the so called PI who tracked her and punctured her tires. I believe puncturing tires is illegal. Im not sure about the tracking, but if the PI is real, it might be good to verify what he did and what he was told to do.
I got a queation if this is true? If JP says He knows who did it then she didn't do it to herself she was murdered I think it was more than one..ir was staged ..
“Now that you aren’t taking meds” whenever he was ALWAYS pushing her to take them and even told his congregation she was off them to defame her. And saying “all the things you have done” but producing no evidence is a common manipulation tactic to get her to defend herself and engage. Then he offers up about Africa. He was really doing everything he could to overpower and convince her … besides BEING A GOOD HUSBAND TO HER!
I’m still going with her ring video footage, when she comes back with food. She looks at foot of door and looks startled, swallowed pretty hard. I’m gonna bet something was left there that wasn’t good. She then dresses for work but feels the urgency to purchase a gun. Hmmm.
@@hossieb4874 I’ve speculated. Was it a nasty note? A death threat? I would wonder if there’s any footage of when she was gone getting food of someone dropping something off. How about apartment directly across, do they have a ring camera.
Britney stay on this JP is just trying to distract Joseph Mortis is right that breaks your heart all the crying..pray for that precious family He did it
The guys name is Charles and the fisherman has him tagged on his Facebook post?! They are very close friends. Remember the fisherman saying he phoned, "Charles" then quickly tried to dismiss it. Remember the fisherman saying he deleted all of his call history on his phone?
Just as a show goes on stage, everyone has to be in position. Thats what the guy in the green shirt was doing. He was trailing Mika to give the cue when it was showtime! Think about everyone who has been identified as a character in a play and their roles. It's all common since.
I love how people keep acting as if she was a sweet little innocent angel This devout Christian CHOSE to destroy her first marriage by cheating This devout Christian CHOSE to have sex while not married And she did so with a man who she knew was married and had children She CHOSE to help break up a marriage She CHOSE to help destroy a family She CHOSE to help destroy the lives of 5 children She un-alived herself over all the shame she brought upon herself and the guilt it caused her
Didn't HE, the supposed man of God, do all of those things as well? Isn't he also 14 years older than she is? Victim blaming is an act of an evil heart. Helen Keller could tell this man is a Con.
@@TheJilly1337 "Didn't HE, the supposed man of God, do all of those things as well?" -Cite where I stated otherwise -You people are the ones IGNORING all of her choices "Isn't he also 14 years older than she is?" -How is that rellevant? -She CHOSE to be with him -And her family fully supported and even celebrated their marriage "Victim blaming" -Cite where I blamed anyone for anything... "is an act of an evil heart" -What do you call projection/lying...? -Something you just did... "Helen Keller could tell this man is a Con" -Yet she CHOSE him, and all of her family and friends fully supported it for years... Oops
According to Joseph Morris channel, A ticktocker recognised this man in the green shirt as Charles McKinnon, who is supposed to be friends on face book to Johnnie Jacobs, fisherman.
P.S. I hope someone will verify this and if true, report it to the FBI.
I seen that yesterday. Brittney is smart to notice that man.
I got more out of your comment than the above video. Thank you.
Connie, thank you. I believe the public can solve this if we continue to share information. Little bits of info keep dropping.
In an interview, Johnnie said that after he erase his calls, he didn't know what time it was so he called "Charles". Charles said it was 1:27. This makes no sense because Mica was at the gas station at that time.
For someone with such a Soft Heart, Mica had a lot of inner strength to put up with the monster (in my opinion). It's all so infuriating. To tell his wife, "You disgust me," and to hurt her by bragging about the mission trips... the emotional abuse is crazy!
Soft heart? Infidelity. Divorced. Participated in never ending sins along with her evil husband. Abused and manipulated?!Yes. Innocent angel? No. She chose the dark side over light at the end. Just looking from an objective point of view. The truth is bitter too often.
@@idea1469 People's brains don't fully develop until they're 25. She shouldn't have been married at 18 and 22. She was a child. I can only imagine the grooming going on from the age of 14. Perps will do things like hug a little too long on a kid and then blame them for making the perp "excited," and then the emotional abuse goes on. Look at what he's doing now. It's systematic abuse.
Obviously, you have never lived through abuse. Hopefully, you will continue in your innocent life. Bless your heart ❤️ @idea1469
Mica is a human with choices, a heart, soul and mind. She could have gotten help and she could have chosen good over evil.
@@idea1469 Obviously, you have never lived through abuse, nor do you know how hard it is to get help from law enforcement when their hands are tied due to laws that haven't passed. I live in South Carolina and I have lived through abuse so I am speaking from experience. So many people these days speak without walking in another's shoes. We all need to love and try to be more understanding of others misfortunes.
Soon JPM will be a first lady to someone behind bars .
If he only could take his spidy suit
Makes total sense now . She was told by him or someone that if she met up with him to sign the divorce papers, she would be free . That's why she didn't go to work,his bar ,they know she called in ,he had all the bases covered. Evil doesn't even describe him
Brittany, great reporting on this! Why are his hands folded like that? Very suspicious body language. He does seem to be keeping a close eye on Mica. There is more video of the location where she was found and they even found 4 bags of cement close by (see CJ's Crime Concepts on YT). There is NO way Mica did this. #JusticeForMica!
Tom,who was there with CJ, said he had been there before,and saw bat houses,made of concrete.
I thought the same thing. But you never know, some folks have a stroke and carry their arm in the other. It sounds like he’s been identified though and that could be easily debunked/researched.
The nightmare for JPM? What about Mica and Allison? Words cannot describe how evil and depraved JPM is.
Totally agree with you. Justice for Mica and her family. 🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼
Three men seemed to be watching Mica buy the gun. Charles, khaki pants black hat guy, and red shirt with child guy. Why doesn’t someone look at connections between the three? Two cars followed her to gas station? White car and black truck? Why did fisherman take his boat, and Mica’s fanny pack, home and then drive back in his car to bring the fanny pack back? Why didn’t he wait for police since he knew the other people in the parking area had called 911? Need all of the RUclips sleuths to look at all of the evidence. Don’t pick and choose pieces as this leaves out too much info.
Is JPM looking for a third First Lady who love’s money, power and control as much as he does.
His next wife will be Bubba that wears soap on a rope necklace.
It looks like they were trying to make 100% certain she made the purchase before they kidnapped her. Then he called dude.
😆😅😂🤣
Prove she was "kidnapped"...
Especially since the police interviewed multiple people who saw her arrive at the park alone, and walk the trail alone
As well as multiple people who saw/heard no one else during and after the shooting either on the trail or leaving the parking lot
I saw someone on Tik Tok say the same thing a few days ago!
I agree!!! Something is off in that pawn shop!!
I can’t stand how a murdering narcissist talks!! Blame blame blame. Lie lie. Then oh let me tell you something good that you’ll miss out on unless you come back to me now!!
These guys were making sure that Mica made it to the destination. JP had his lawyer call Mica to convince her that he had papers drawn up for her to sign. She thought it was a 50/50 chance it was bull shit. So she bought a gun for her safety just in case her intuition was right. I think when she got to the lawyers house, not at the state park, she was attacked. The fisherman's role was to validate the timeline. He said he heard crying and a single gunshot. Thats what he was supposed to say. Sounds more believable when he brings all her belongings back with the $500 back in her wallet. He must be trust worthy since he brought back the money. Mica didn't call 911 from her phone, that's why the 911 operator asked what number was she calling from. Mica said that they had a lot of assets together and that's what JP was protecting by setting this plot in motion. Everyone had a position in this murder. The fisherman was someone the lawyer brought in, not JP. The fisherman is going to bring all the truth to the surface. He along with the lawyer and JP and the watchers will all go to jail for the murder of Mica! Her car was placed there and her body was placed where it was found. Who do you think blotched this almost perfectly executed crime? Not the lawyer, not JP, but the idiot fisherman! Case closed!
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He was following her, just say it.
JP is obviously projecting
Projecting...? 😆😅😂🤣
She cheated on her first husband...
Then she started screwing a guy whom she knew was married with a family...
And after marrying him seemingly started cheating on him... An aspect tassitly admitted to in her emails, messaging, and video "testimonials" where he accuses her of it and she doesn't respond with "No", but instead by saying things like "Yes I have sinned and asked for your forgiveness".
And he, JP, was a virgin by the time he messed up with her? Not married?
The security cams might have caught the vehicles of those guys in the pawn shop. If those vehicles are also caught at the gas station and park then that would be quite the coincidence.
The vehicles that they were driving was not at the gas station.
It’s “bystanders” as in people standing by. It’s not “bystandards.”
He’s caught! He better turn himself in and talk to
To me the black guy looks like he is checking out a pretty woman. The white guy in the white van is way more sus imo. Also, JP has the be one of the biggest passive/aggressive *&%*%&'s in history!
The black guy is friends with the fisherman that found micas stuff. It’s a set up.
Charlie McKinnon is a friend of Johnnie Jacobs. He was identified by a co-worker. You can verify that they know each other on FB. I took screenshots in case they deactivate their accts.
@@LemonThyme1933 but that wasn't the name that was said from the one I was watching
@@TrishaLynnDYI Hopefully the FBI or someone sees enough to get these guys under the microscope cause this is unreal. One of these guys will talk if they are under enough pressure. RUclips won't let me say what I really think of this Pas-hole JB.
@@Blueiztou It was Charles. This was shown on Joseph Morris. I verified it myself on FB.
“So please let’s meet soon and be divorced” Sounds like that’s how he lured her to the park.
He’s full of it! Non of those people from Africa even respect him now! he never even paid money to Mica raised! 💜🙏💜
That man has been identified...
His name is Charles...
He is the very same Charles who is friends with the fisherman & the fisherman called him at 1:27pm...
He was seen in Facebook photos with the fisherman....
The fisherman who found Mica his friend Charles who he called when he heard the shot...
Was in the pawn shop following Mica as she bought the gun...
Someone needs to inform the police
I have to say allegedly , about this comment , but the guy in the green t shirt that ur video was about is ‘allegedly’ friend of the ‘fisherman ‘ that found micas bag and heard her scream ?! The fisherman slips up in one of his interviews and sd he spoke to Charles straight after the alleged scream and shot . Joseph morris does a live on it yesterday I think it was and he goes through it all and he more or less proves the connection …..
Yea I looked into it all and found the guys. I sent it to JLR because he would know if that in fact is Johnnie’s face. I doubt if there’s more than one Johnnie Jacobs with Charles McKinnon as his fishing buddy. He’s very creepy to me. I thought he was guilty from his first word. Now his story keeps changing and he keeps talking!
And I doubt Johnnie was ever even out there fishing or found her items. He had them from the kidnapping
And I doubt Johnnie was ever even out there fishing or found her items. He had them from the kidnapping
I would assume that her husband is not on his medication for starters and it could be that he was given the wrong medication not diagnosed himself properly where to buy, he's looking at others as having what he has, what about his business partners tracking both of them?
I want to know what was on her phone that led her to that park! I m sure LE wiped that thing clean before it was turned over to her attorney!
nope the text is fake
he didnt want let her go he was to controlling in his lifeif he could not have her no one could
If he had someone following her and tracked her car, surely that someone could have stopped her before she shot "herself"
There is two P.I.s watching her In that pawn shop, they switch off. Whether when driving or watching up close. They switch so as to not seem too suspicious. The whole time she's being followed by two obvious P.I.s I wanna see this car that second guy was driving, because he's waiting outside the door once mica walks out and that first guy was in a white delivery van. Bet you the second guy was in a dark truck.
A commenter made an awesome observation that may turn this case!
The gun case Mica bought was black.
The gun case in her car was grey( with the sandwich next).
Come on FBI.
Brittney if you get a chance view freedom voice online that man in the green shirt is stalking mica he's watching her this thing is unraveling may truth come out soon justice for Mica
I think there's a couple ppl watching her.... That's so crazy... #Justice4Mica
It appears that he may be Charles. Mystery Project talks about it.
Joseph Morris channel posted a video about the man in the green shirt last night. He has allegedy been identified by someone on tiktok as Charles McKinnon and was the Charles that the fisherman called at 1:27 allegedly.
I commented on this this morning and my comments were deleted.. 😮😮
@@healthismywealth9668 what? That's odd. I was thinking about how easy it was to ID Charles. I think some of the tips are intentionally put out to apply pressure on suspects by FBI. The FBI have agents working on social media. I saw a comment about Joseph Morris channel after I put mine and scrolled down to see someone had left the same info. I didn't catch if it was you or not. But I saw it.
There were at least three people watching her right there
Okay you know the fisherman said that he saw three people in a boat and ask them did they hear that shot I believe that the three people was actually him and the two men that were in the pawn shop where Micah what was that I believe that the fishermen got scared that's why he brought back Micah belongings and the 2000 dollars that was it her purse I believe that was his part that he was getting paid for so therefore there was 2500 in her purse not just $500 he admits that he called his buddy Charles hey let that slip and Charles is the same guy that was in the pawn shop when Micah was there how do you believe all three men were involved
Wait is that the Charles pastor guy?
The counselor🤔🤷🏾
Is her husband a freemason ?
If not, he's still most likely on good terms with some of them.
@@LemonThyme1933 unfortunately I don't think even the F.B.I. will investigate freemasons ,
Mica alive was a hit job!
This man in the store is Charles McKinnon who is good friends with the fisherman. Not sure why nobody is talking about this. The fisherman also said he called “Charles” an hour before her death and said he heard a gunshot.
Tuff topic ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
There is a different video with a different guy that was more creepy. He had a dark shirt with a red stripe across the shoulder and left in a white van. Have you seen that one? I think JLR investigates had that one one yesterday,
Another youtuber thought he was sus as well because he wasn’t looking at anything and kept looking at the same things repeatedly.
Just curious if investigators are looking into the so called PI who tracked her and punctured her tires. I believe puncturing tires is illegal. Im not sure about the tracking, but if the PI is real, it might be good to verify what he did and what he was told to do.
I got a queation if this is true? If JP says He knows who did it then she didn't do it to herself she was murdered I think it was more than one..ir was staged ..
“Now that you aren’t taking meds” whenever he was ALWAYS pushing her to take them and even told his congregation she was off them to defame her. And saying “all the things you have done” but producing no evidence is a common manipulation tactic to get her to defend herself and engage. Then he offers up about Africa. He was really doing everything he could to overpower and convince her … besides BEING A GOOD HUSBAND TO HER!
Narcissists are like Chameleons they change and are one step ahead!
I’m still going with her ring video footage, when she comes back with food. She looks at foot of door and looks startled, swallowed pretty hard. I’m gonna bet something was left there that wasn’t good. She then dresses for work but feels the urgency to purchase a gun. Hmmm.
Yes, what was at that door?
@@hossieb4874 I’ve speculated. Was it a nasty note? A death threat? I would wonder if there’s any footage of when she was gone getting food of someone dropping something off. How about apartment directly across, do they have a ring camera.
Britney stay on this JP is just trying to distract Joseph Mortis is right that breaks your heart all the crying..pray for that precious family He did it
What's the deal with the cell phone side by side with the car? who's phone is that supposed to be?
Green shirt and fisherman build is hmmmm
The guys name is Charles and the fisherman has him tagged on his Facebook post?! They are very close friends. Remember the fisherman saying he phoned, "Charles" then quickly tried to dismiss it. Remember the fisherman saying he deleted all of his call history on his phone?
Just as a show goes on stage, everyone has to be in position. Thats what the guy in the green shirt was doing. He was trailing Mika to give the cue when it was showtime! Think about everyone who has been identified as a character in a play and their roles. It's all common since.
Wow
I love how people keep acting as if she was a sweet little innocent angel
This devout Christian CHOSE to destroy her first marriage by cheating
This devout Christian CHOSE to have sex while not married
And she did so with a man who she knew was married and had children
She CHOSE to help break up a marriage
She CHOSE to help destroy a family
She CHOSE to help destroy the lives of 5 children
She un-alived herself over all the shame she brought upon herself and the guilt it caused her
So she deserved to die over this? You must be one of JPs screw buddies
Didn't HE, the supposed man of God, do all of those things as well? Isn't he also 14 years older than she is? Victim blaming is an act of an evil heart. Helen Keller could tell this man is a Con.
@@TheJilly1337
"Didn't HE, the supposed man of God, do all of those things as well?"
-Cite where I stated otherwise
-You people are the ones IGNORING all of her choices
"Isn't he also 14 years older than she is?"
-How is that rellevant?
-She CHOSE to be with him
-And her family fully supported and even celebrated their marriage
"Victim blaming"
-Cite where I blamed anyone for anything...
"is an act of an evil heart"
-What do you call projection/lying...?
-Something you just did...
"Helen Keller could tell this man is a Con"
-Yet she CHOSE him, and all of her family and friends fully supported it for years... Oops
@@TheJilly1337 Don't bother engaging with the trolls, they just want attention
She was also groomed by JP from the time she was like 14 years old