B&W DM 601 S2 Bookshelf Speakers - Pawn Shop $180 ~ MSRP $470
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- B&W DM 601 S2 Bookshelf Speakers - Pawn Shop $180 ~ MSRP $470
Average Guy HiFi Rating - 41.5/50 = 83%
Demo - R.E.M.
Album - Out of Time
Song - Losing My Religion
Amazon link:
www.amazon.com...
Bowers & Wilkins DM 601 S2
Type: 2 way bass reflex
Frequency Response: 70 - 20,000 Hz +/- 3 dB
Power Handeling: 25 - 100 Watts
Impedance: 8 ohms
Sensitivity: 88 dB
Mid/Woofer: 6.5" Kevlar Woven
Tweeter: 1” Metal Dome
Dimensions (inches): 14" H x 8" W x 9.5" D
Weight: 13.5 lbs. Each
MSRP ~ $470 Pair (couldn’t find exact MSRP but with my research, $470 is close)
Where I Purchased - Pawn Shop
Listed Price - $180
Price Paid - $180
Condition (not included in score) - 90%
The cabinets are in good shape but they do have some minor wear.
Quality - 8.0
These are nice quality speakers. The cabinets are sturdy and don’t exude any nasty resonance when I knock on the either. The Kevlar cones are sturdy feeling and I like the fact these speakers use rubber surrounds.
If I had to try and find a quality fault, I guess it would be the binding posts and the lack of protection for the tweeters. Again, I needed to stretch to find and quality faults.
Like usual, B&W did a great job with these speakers, quality wise, especially considering the price point.
Sound - 8.5
These are just beautiful sounding speakers and I can definitely understand why there are so many fans out there.
At low volumes or near-field, these are going to be pretty darn hard to beat, with any speakers double their price. They have clear and clean sound and the mid bass is sublime.
If I had to say areas that these speakers are slightly lacking it’s the deep bass notes and they seem to strain more at higher volumes.
In normal sized rooms and at normal volume, these are killer sounding speakers.
MSRP Rating - 9.0
I had to base my ~ $470 MSRP off the original 601 and the 601 S3 speakers, since I couldn’t specifically fine the S2 MSRP.
Anywhere near this price, even in 1999 money, was a killer deal. These speakers are very well rounded performers and punch way above their weight class.
Again, I couldn’t find the exact MSRP for some reason so if anyone out there knows, I would love to hear from you so I can update my description:)
Aesthetics - 8
These are pretty basic looking speakers, especially with the grills on. With the grills off, I think they are a very attractive speaker. That yellow Kevlar just pops and very refreshing, since I’m usually surrounded by the Klipsch copper.
I also like the size of these speakers, which is pretty compact when compared to the other 6.5” bookshelf speakers I’ve owned in the past.
Price Paid Value - 8.0
Picking these up for $180 is a pretty sweet deal, especially considering I bought them at a pawn shop, where they have margins built into their prices. But I’ve definitely had better deals, like you all know if you are taking the time to read all these ramblings:)
Average Guy HiFi Rating - 41.5/50 = 83%
Final Thoughts -
These speakers are about 22 years old at this point but their style still holds and the sound really holds up.
The details and the soundstage are very large for their size. I would definitely recommend these speakers for people that aren’t expecting concert volumes or that need a ton of bass.
Perfect for normal volumes in most rooms but if you like tons of bass and listen loudly, there are probably better options.
Anywhere near this price, jump on them before someone else does!
Equipment Used -
CD Player - Oppo BDP-93
Preamp - Emotiva XDA-2
Amplifiers - Emotiva UPA-1 Qty. 2
Surge Protection- Panamax M5100-PM
Subscriber Count At The Time Of This Video - 5,354
I really like your videos! And to a completely new beginner like me, one thing I would really like to see is how do you wire them? And how are the speakers connected to a receiver/amp? I am sure people with some level of experiences would probably not even realize it’s a thing, but to me it does seem complicated…again thanks for the detailed information and true review :)
Tell you what really woke up my old 601s was a Yamaha CR-1000 receiver, the combination of the old school receiver and somewhat newer speakers was just unbelievable. The sound literally drew my teenage kids out of their rooms. The CR-1000 is 47 years old and I purchased the 601s in the mid 90's so say 26 years old but again the combination is just amazing. My kids are like it's just 2 speakers dad. Just found your channel, thanks for content will subscribe.
Forgot to add I bought the metal stands with spikes on the bottom don't know if this changes anything or not.
I agree. I used to use a pioneer amp then just got the B&O beomaster 5000 and I've never heard the speakers sound so good. Very low bass and sparkling mids and highs. Was looking to upgrade the speakers but glad I upgraded the amp instead!
My favorite speaker company.On my wish list is the Bowes Wilkins 702 S2 towers.
I didn’t know you were a B&W fan, Nana! You have excellent taste:)
Great review! I've had these speakers since 1999 and I'm very happy with them.
Cheers from Brazil.
I have a pair of 602 s1 and I've always enjoyed them. Someone in my town was selling the series 3 version for $555 Canadian (399 USD) which I thought seemed high. Someone bought them.
I recently ordered a pair of Polk R200s that I got for a good price and I'm looking forward to an A/B showdown. Whatever loses get kicked out of the listening room and into the living room.
Quite a difference in sound to me! Glad to see you back!! Missed you!
Thank you, my friend!
Truth be told, I think that first year of ~ 50 videos kind of got to me a little. That and now that my friends are all popping out of COVID so I’ve been enjoying some lost time with them.
Thanks for the continued support, Les!
@@blazermdx No - thank you for all the time and hard work you put into your videos!!
I have a complete 5.1 set up. 4 x 601 s2 and the matching CC6 centre. I have owned these from new - purchased January 2001. I am in the UK so maybe pricing got inflated for export to the US, but I paid only 200 GBP per pair for the 601 s2, brand new!
They still sound so good am really nervous about upgrading. I tried the new B&W 607 s2 last year, but returned them within 7 days. Too bright and not enough bass. I may try the 607 or even the 707 in due course. Great review thank you 🙏
I just got a deal on a set of 601 and 602 S2 with matching center for $300 three days ago and this is the perfect video for what I wanted to know about my purchase!!!
Well done! This the type of response I was really hoping for, to help people with speakers that nobody is reviewing.
Congratulations on your new speakers!
Can I ask if You feel any difference between s1 and s2?
I m a music producer and I have mixed numerous electronic music tracks on these. They are so revealing and we'll balanced that they are better than 85% of budget price studio monitors out there today!
How cool! Yes, these speakers when powered properly, are very revealing.
You don’t happen to have any copyright free sound clips I could use, to use in my videos, do you?
Long shot, but I figured I’d ask. I’d obviously give credit to you or the artist in the description:)
I've owned these with the matching center & sub, 12inch 250W, since they were introduced and I still love them. I would say though, I replaced the sub with a 10inch and it was a match made in heaven!
I had them, great bookshelf speakers in the $200 used price range
You have had literally every speaker known to this planet. I don’t know how you do it
@@offbrandguy101-7 :) there is more to come
Looking forward to the new videos, my man!
And it’s true, you just might be one of the few people that have owned more speakers than me:)
I have these as rear surrounds in a 5.1 setup. Main speakers are the 604 S2 which, coupled with a B&W subwoofer, produce killer bass. Then again, I remember a Doja Cat song (an Atmos mix) which outputs the drums from the rear surrounds (kind of odd, but it works) and I was amazed at how much bass, clean and tight, these little 601 S2 produced. Love them, and they do shine on some other Atmos mixes using Apple Music.
These are excellent value for money either for Hi Fi or AV.
I’ve used them on stands for two channel and would say they are comparable to Kef Q-15s, if not better.
They also make for brilliant rears in a 5.1 setup with matching S2 603s and CC6 up front.
They do sound better with grilles off, but for god’s sake keep them on when not listening and if possible the door locked if there’s children about.
I can attest to the fact that teething infants will chew on those cones and pokey little fingers will simultaneously destroy those tweeter diaphragms in a matter of about one second otherwise☹️🤦🏻♂️
For me 601's sings perfectly - very natural vocals!
Pretty good deal considering inflation. I also agree the whole "8 ohm compatible" speaker thing needs to be stopped when they are 4 ohms or worse for the Klipsch R41m since that speakers minimum impedance is like 2 ohms.
I’m hoping that these manufacturers start getting more realistic with their stats. Especially these new receivers, advertising 125 Watts x 9, when they realistically only put out 125 Watts x2. If they even put out that:/
Thanks again for the support, my friend!
@@blazermdx completely agree about the AVRs. No problem!
I own a pair of DM 600 S3’s and 602 S1’s
Just ordered a used pair of 601 s2’s
Felt like completing the set 😆
Trust me, I’m also the type that needs or wants to complete my sets with matching speakers.
Congrats on the incoming speakers!
I've got a pair - the main left/right for a multichannel SACD set-up. They still sound great to me. About $600 new as I recall.
I am pretty sure they were $1000 for the set. They cost more then the Paradigms, or Mirage, which were about $600-$800 for the set.
Interesting. I used to have the larger 602s before I moved to the B&W in-wall units. I sold the 602s for $650 for the pair off eBay. I have a pair of Signature 7's & CWM7.5's as well as six of the slightly older CCM65s for my ATMOS system running off a Yamaha 3060. My HT room is 15' x 19' with 10-foot tall ceilings and with the proper subs, the 602's did an awesome job prior to the in-walls
Welcome back!
Thank you! Needed a little break, after that long year:)
Do you ever go to thrift stores to ever find any deals? One time I went to a church rummage sale and got two JBL northridge n38 towers, a 7.1 Yamaha receiver, and a 8 inch Boston acoustics down firing sub, all for $100
My brother visits the local thrift stores so I told him what to look for, when it comes to speakers.
I actually picked up some nice Definitive Technology speakers on the cheap, about 5 years ago. I’ve read about some absolutely killer deals at thrift stores and rummage sales.
Good work with those JBL’s!
In my area many of those 2nd hand shops have figured out how to search a name on the internet.
Which means you get less amazing deals, or you see some really wishful overpriced items these days.
I don't care what people say! True - you don't get the actual sound you are hearing - but you CAN hear the difference between speakers!!
Good! I’m with you, you can hear subtle difference on some frequencies. That’s really why I put the sound test parts of the videos back to back, so you can hopefully distinguish the differences.
Hearing them in person is the ideal way to judge speakers but that isn’t always possible.
Thank you very much for stopping by and thank you for the input!
@@blazermdx A lot of times it's more than subtle! I could hear a big difference in this video! Sometimes though you can't even hear a difference.
Speakers vary so much that you can easily hear it through RUclips on even a phone speaker in many cases
I used a pair of them 20 years ago in a 5.1 system as rear channels......the only thing they can do....being used as surround speaker
Klipsch usually states '8 ohm compatible' rather than 8 ohm like other manufacturers might.
That’s a good point. A little ambiguous but still better than some of the manufacturers.
Impedance is a important metric so hopefully these speaker companies start being a little more accurate with the specs.
Thanks again for the continued support!
Klipsch or B&M book shelf speaker?
Still have my ones and they were £400, 20 years ago. I also have the 601 S2's which were £200 at the same time.
Nice video help me alot
Thanks for your review regards from Lisbon Portugal
6:52
8:12
I've been seeing these pop up in various areas. The thing that concerns me is the foam surrounds on the woofers. We all know time is the enemy. Or are these some kind of rubber?
question. I understand these are great sounding speakers. but i can buy Elac Debut 6.2 for slightly more money brand new than these sell for used in my area. What do you guys think of the Elacs vs these speakers ? a lot of years have passed since these were made, a lot of technology has advanced . comments appreciated .
I have the b&w dm 602 s3
Nice! The S3’s are supposed to be more refund than the S2.
Great choice!
Going to pick up some 604 s3 but two bass drivers need new surrounds so hopefully i can fix them
Did you end up grabbing them? They make rubber surround kits so hopefully you have them all sorted by now.
Cheers, my friend!
Can I compare them with a vintage Kenwood KA 1500 integrated amplifier?
These aren't for me mate, but it got me thinking. What speaker or maker would you describe as "smooth as butter", just a nice "silky smooth" sound? Just looking for your opinion. Thanks
Hey man! Hmm, that’s a bit of a tricky question, as we all have different ideas of smooth.
With that said, I would say Aperion Audio has very smooth sounding speakers, same with the Martin Logan Motion series, with the ribbon tweeters.
Thanks for stopping by, my friend!
Elac?
How would these pair with a Marantz 2218? Would you recommend something else?
hi i have those but now two of them have blown twitter is there any company that ship to other countries because I'm in South Africa
Have you ever heard/reviewed ESS Amt-1 speakers. Loved them, wife didn't like size, so sold 25 year old speakers at garage sale for $60. See they sell for $1200 used. UGH! Big mistake.
Subbed!!!!!
hi....does it make sence to connect an Eq to my reciver i play alot of music....
Hopefully you start uploading again hope everything is okay 👊🏼
Make some more videos please! Lol hope all is well friend!
Sir Plz suggests between 200-250 dollars bookshelf speaker for stereo amplifier (Old ) In new I will paid maximum 300 dollers plz reply I am waiting(I like balance and punchy bass )
Thanks for the video 🙂, how is the DM 602 S3 ? I have found a seller asking 500$ for them , isn't him dreaming?
They are good speakers but $500 would be quite expensive, in my 2nd hand market. I think he’s dreaming but it really comes down to who’s in the market, when the ad is listed.
To give you an idea, there’s a mint pair of Polk LSIM 703s in my area for $450. I’d take the Polks all day and everyday over these B&W. Again, B&W speakers are quite good, that’s just too much for me to pay.
@@blazermdx I have found in 2nd marketplace Triangle Borea bro3 and Elac dbr 62 in mint condition, but I decided to pass on them. I guess I prefer to buy new unless I find a good deal in 2nd market in my close area. I auditioned to Dynaudio Emit20 in store , I was impressed.
Hello, Do you have speakers and sub for sale? Thank you very much
Why do so many like yourself compare with the R600m, they are hardly a reference speaker and there are so many more that sound superior at and around the same price. Just curious.
Because they are Readily available, it has Reference in the name I guess
Buenas tardes amigo soy de Colombia y quiero saber cuanto puedo vender mis parlantes BYW es esa misma referencia del video mil gracias pues quiero venderlos porque no me funcionan con mi míni componete aiwa pues necesitan una planta Rotel y no la tengo aquí en Colombia no ahí esa plata y no tengo dinero para comprala 😅
Just bought some 601 s1s, what amp would you put with them for indie/rock/metal ?
Congrats! You mean like an integrated amp, receiver or amplifier? If you are strictly talking about a 2 channel setup, I’d keep my eyes peeled for a used integrated amp from NAD, Arcam, Cambridge etc.
@@blazermdx yeah integrated amp. Don't know whether to buy an old audiolab, arcam or NAD or a new marantz/denon??
I want to connect my nice TV/Monitor to it, so PC gaming, RUclips, Netflix and music.
Something that compliments the speakers, prefer a warm full sound, not too harsh.
Yeah last weekend sucked lol
Way too hot for this slightly portly guy, with pale skin. Haha
Cheers, my friend!
@@blazermdx I second that, keep up the good videos.
Channels often get copyright strikes for playing real music like this...be careful
My whole dam channel is getting struck down:/ The good news is that I never monetized it. Haha
Let me know if you have any good ideas on copyright free music though. I’d like to start making a little money, vs losing it at some point.
@@blazermdx do a RUclips search on “royalty free music” I’d have to assume there are videos posted no?
@@CadetBoneSpurs I found a site that has some free music that's a little better than Audiolibrary, though currently they are limited in genres. Forgot what it's called now. Would need to go onto my PC
Had them hated them
They were decent for the money I paid for them but I definitely preferred my 600M and my new R3’s
B&W has some great speakers and some very loyal fans but I haven’t owned any of their speakers that I truly loved. I love the looks of some of their higher end speakers though😍
Wish one are better the klipsch or the B&W
B and w😍