As much as you are true, your word doesnt matter because they are just too invested, and by they I meant the viewers who takes everything up to their asses
True, but Ramee needs to be smarter about the way he goes about things. As long as he keeps on watching meta clips of ongoing situations he's going to get hate and be accused of meta gaming. Like what did he expect to happen when he literally put a camera pointing directly at the shower in room 503 immediately after watching a clip of the shower secret shower door? I'm not saying he deserves hate, but he's got to stop watching meta clips of ongoing situations if he wants the hate to stop.
Lol it’s the same thing with all Leaders for some reason. Shit happens when Lang is not around either. This is why a gang or group always needs a leader
People realize that HOA basically did what Garrett suggested for months with meth production right? This isn't new at all. I'm pretty sure Buddha did something similar with coke as well
@@TheRedrider27 I think you missed the fact that X already explained how to get into the tunnel during the meeting at Clean Manor so even if they turned off eyes for 10 seconds before going in, it would have been moot, but what do I know.
She seems to have this kind of issue all over, right? Even in amongus, and other games. She constantly seems to have these weird insert issues where she just... lowkey seems to just WANT to be condescending to others.
@@400lux7 and even then Hafu addressed it professionally, and even offered her help and it seemed like Wolf just wanted everyone to cater to her. She had an inferiority issue with everyone listening to hafu in HER OWN lobbies. Etc etc. She's got a pretty bad streak of egocentric issues...so her doing this isn't shocking, but it is kinda sad. She's way too grown to be adding fuel to the flames in this manner. Especially just for the drama. There's nothing productive coming from her input. At least not in this clip.
She's a classic example of a clout chaser. Sucks she has a dev wrapped around her finger (wiseguy) so she probably feels invincible against consequences.
@@TheDeathKiller007 nah she goes around saying buddha is weird while watching his clips and always shit talks Xqc. her chat are always calling cb meta gamers, it just seems that she has a cop mindset
Literally telling the devs to put in more work with their already shit compensation that they get just because the streamers on NoPixel can't wait a couple of days for someone else to progress in RP.
@Xzlemin Then by your logic, every heist needs to be entirely different for each particular gang. You think chat will only spoil and throw a fit of meta information that leads to the start of a heist? Even if CB/GG turned off their stream entirely and started streaming at the tunnel, they would eventually reveal meta relevant information in regards to new puzzles and how to figure them out, secret doors, tools/items you need for the heist, etc. The meta still continues after the start of the heist. So, it is fucking pointless because the first group to do it, will always be safe, and any other groups who do figure it out will always be suspect of it. There is LITERALLY no way to stop dumbass chat from accusing people of meta'ing.
@@phalangee When did I ever say that I want streamers to disconnect themselves to avoid meta? Just avoid the casino heist and do some other shit while the first group who found it will get the first crack at the heist. Not that hard. It won't stop dumbass chat from speculating, but it will be less of shitstorm.
Wolfabelle needs to learn to stop reacting to drama clips and fueling more hoppers, look at wiseguy he said at the start of the stream he wasn't gonna talk about the drama because it didn't involve him and hes a dev
@@antonioprice8081 I never said k didn’t hate on her just like I ain’t sayin I’m not hatin on you. The difference is she hopped on the hate train and twisted Garrett’s words on a situation she was not involved in at all lmaoooooo learn how to read kid
Dude one of the nicest and best roleplayers on the server is Garret and he deserves every benefit of the doubt and it is a huge shame Wolfeabelle did not respect him. Like yeah he did not state it well and Kebun did good at explaining what he meant which makes a lot of sense. Wolfabelle and others should stop talking about this on stream if they have nothing positive to state as it just spread the hate more even if she did not intend that. But as per usual the most toxic people in all of NoPixel are chats claiming meta about something they have no involvement in.
She makes a great point tho. What you're saying is other streamers shouldn't call out things they don't agree with? I love Kebun and the bois but you can tell his take is emotional and biased because it's his bois. Wolf's take is the prevailing one here, imo.
@@a.m.4049 Her take was about one of the nicest and most og roleplayers on the server yet what she stated about him was negative and was something she knew nothing about. A streamer can have their opinion but if it is not something positive OR you do not know the full story to talk about it then you should not bring it on stream as it just stirs up more hate. IDC what your opinion is on this whole thing, none of the streamers should be receiving so much hate even to the point of death threats. Takes like what Wolfabelle did only encourages that type of toxicity more, even if she did not intend it. That is what Kebun was mad about and rightfully so.
@@michaelgallacher4800 You can not agree with the idea but that does not make the idea bad. The purpose of hiding those 10 seconds is for the sake of the remaining roleplayers still figuring it out. Even Ray spoke out how he feels bad for anyone out of CB as it just takes one viewer to come in and say that room number and not only is the whole thing spoiled for them but they get accused of meta. And for someone you states they do not agree with the hate you seem to spread a lot of it saying their takes are idiotic and that Kebun was wrong to defend his boys who were literally getting death threats because of meta accusations. How about viewers stop worrying so much about shit they have no involvement in or is that too mature of a response.
@@michaelgallacher4800 no u extra chromosome 12 year old nobody said hide the heist content lol. They said hide the answer to the riddle and how to get into the heist. Then once you are in you show the content. K literally explained it lol. Tell me u didn’t watch the video and made stuff up without telling me you didn’t watch the video and made stuff up
It makes sense though its hard to avoid something that's right infront of you. Once you seen the hint no matter what you try to do that hint is always going to be in the back of your mind. Every possible solution you come up with naturally is going to be directed back to that hint. And once another gang has found the hint, let's be honest when the next gang start progressing and solving the riddle, Reddit and other gangs communities are going to label it as meta. No matter what route you to solve it the general consensus is going to be "you only solved it because you knew what to do, because you meta gamed and saw how the first gang did it. In this case CB" So once its solved its pretty hard to do anything about it its almost as if at that point you just drop everything and let the gang that solved the riddle just fully finish the heist. Cause there after there is absolutely no way you progress through it without being accused of meta, without getting any hate and backlash about the legitimacy of how you managed to solve it. Its honestly impossible.
As a streamer I can choose to bring out of char into the game but I choose not to and it helped keep my chat tame bc they understand I’m just playing a game and they are watching not per taking. I get tons of dms etc but once I load gta rp I keep ooc out of the game. What happens inside game I keep inside except for certain friends who understand yt streaming. So don’t be in ooc into game and solves 99% of the meta etc. I watch clips every sat that’s it bc I choose to not during the exact moment like streamers in np wl haha
@@nickbennett940 it doesn't. People couldn't engage with chat for days because people post hints and answers. You might just see it and that's just that. For example it's known x got the blowing of power and then going into the hotel from chat and it's known. You get atleast some info guaranteed because viewers cannot help themselves and mods cannot check every message, even Ray was talking about this because he got accusations of meta. People should just shut up about the meta accusations in these things where multiple gangs are trying something if it's not like Train saying in not so suddle way that he googled how the methlabs work in NP. It's getting so tiring to cry how this and that person meta'd Always when these big puzzle things are going on.
It's not even when other gang has solved something. People outside NP spend their time solving it (in groups propably even) and bombard with what they got/suggest/think it is. For example the riddle was out there for all to see and viewers know the added places and original map so they can do it aswell and just spam chat.
The hiding the screen for the 503 room or atleast the bathroom door is kinda a way where they hide it properly since it is almost impossible to guess it and it keeps the drama of someone metaing info out of the question. Cause that's what buddha did with the coke/phone number to get the coke delivery
Thank you holy fuck i thought i was insane that 10 20 seconds is a good idea so ppl didn't have to deal with death threats and shit the amount of ppl still saying shit take blows my mind i thought that when they did it live
@@lazygamer7176 she didnt figure anything out, she just said room 503 was weird because it was highlighted, which everyone did it wasnt only her, regardless talking about the hiding for metaguard, yes that could be an idea and it would be a good idea but you wouldnt have to hide it for 10 seconds, more like for 10 minutes, from the moment you step in the casino you would have to hide your screen because u dont even want to show a single bit of where this exact thing takes action, and i dont think most people wouldnt want that cuz they want the big reveal i guess.
Lol I like how wolfabelles take was that Garrett had a bad take. But she didn’t say her take at all and she waited for chat to react to it before she said anything. That was very weird
Correction her take was that he wanted RP over content. Which again she obviously didn’t understand what he was saying but still that take is dog shiite. No he just doesn’t want people to get hate for something they can’t avoid as in meta accusations
Garrett had a bad take, you cannot ask a streamer not to stream something just because others receive the meta by watching clips or reading chat. Wolfabelle was 100% correct on it.
@@roadrage9191 It's not really it's genuinely a good idea hide 10 20 seconds the entire fucking drama bullshit would be avoided and it shouldn't be a touchy subject why cuz ppl on wl or their streamer can't meta it there should be no reason why 10 20 seconds should ruin a heist fucking grow up yes sometimes viewers actions impact many streamers which will impact viewers VIEWING experience surprise pikachu face 👁️👄👁️ death threats in the RP world shouldn't be ignored there are crazy ppl and youll never know if it's fake till it's too late
@@cronicboi4208 You can also avoid the BS if CG, CB and HOA agreed that the first to find it get a couple of days to take advantage to get the unlocks and share the secret after those days. After that no spamming and blocking other crews but devide timeslots to hit it. Hiding content is not a good solution for CB and X, you punish them as Ramee cannot stop himself from watching clips.
@@roadrage9191 your literally saying 10 to 20 seconds is going to ruin the content you're delusional same way CB and CG do coke the fucking same way HOA did meth tf are you saying seeing 503 once in chat you already have a confirmation bias it avoids "Ramee" from being able to do it aswell since you mentioned him
I thought the scenes where X described how he solved the riddle and them walking through the shower door was insane. They earned those moments to be shown to their viewers because they did find it first.
Exactly who is she,how is she connected to any of this lmao. If she wants clout,do it in a better way. Exactly,kebun just praised x and everyone included with him but others who got nothing to do with it and she isn't doing it for the first time,she just hates cg even when they don't even know her.
At first I watched Rated's reaction and there was no real context behind it so I was confused why he was getting angry. Now watching this, it makes a lot more sense.
Same ones who hate this idea are the same ones who complained about cg meta on yt and reddit clips, complained in their streamers' chat and /or chat hopped to angry type.
It's not really it's genuinely a good idea hide 10 20 seconds the entire fucking drama bullshit would be avoided and it shouldn't be a touchy subject why cuz ppl on wl or their streamer can't meta it there should be no reason why 10 20 seconds should ruin a heist
She reacts to nopixel clips all the time. I love CG too and the streamers but they are in the wrong here. Kebun is mad because she's laughing about his bois.
Let’s be honest as viewers we all wanted to know what the hint was and how to do shit so then not hiding it was actually so much content cause when X revealed it everyone fucking lost it. So I still think Belle is correct in some way. Yeah it’s ideal to hide your screen or whatever but as content creators uk for sure chat wanted to see. So many subs were given when it was revealed
Pretty much and X Deserved to show it to everyone people have been shitting/trolling him making fun of him and praising everyone else. The Juicer was on streaming for 11 hours and then went for a 10 hour offline degen grinding and found it. 200K people saw this and he wanted to show to everyone HE DID IT! It is 100% understandable for him and No just dont watch clips or meta. simple as that.
It's not what she said pissed K off, it's how she said it. Anyways, Wolfabelle has a habit starting drama, pretty sure she kicked out off Hafu lobbies because of similar shit
@@muzzle_4717 the thing with Hafu lobby was that she didn’t feel like their friend and she wanted to. Other than that I don’t think I’ve seen her in drama
Garrett’s take really wasn’t that crazy. Hide your screen for 10 seconds, which is literally you just going through a door, and then you’re good. There’s no “hiding content” in that. It’s literally going through a fucking door. I think his take was just taken out of proportion or misinterpreted
Next heist. CG gets one thing to do. 1/2 then CB gets something else that leads to part 2/2 then both gangs come together to start a heist and it’ll be like that event at the docks. Without the cops of course tho.
That’s what I was hoping for for this heist. We know either way, one gang was going to get fucked over. It would be sick AF and piss chat off so much, if CB and CG worked together in a way to make RP out of the situation. For example, CB could offer a piece of info from the casino heist for exchange for money or something else. Normally CG finds things first, so CB could offer them casino info in exchange for info for anything else they may find in the future, like if CG figures out a future heist they have to tell CB, or something. This would keep toxicity down, and chat hoppers would not be able to say shit if they worked together OOC to come up with a way to RP this info. CB knows what it’s like to be accused of meta and shit when CG finds stuff first, and vice versa, and both gangs should want to keep the hate down to a minimum and like K said it’s hard to get info naturally with all the shit in chat and it’s hard to block it out of your brain, so if gangs would somehow make RP out new info would be sick.
Wolfabelle reacting and getting involved and talking on it has to be the most cringe thing ever. Like what did her contribution change at all. totally wasn’t needed
@@3self I mean when your faning the flames of a already toxic topic, generally you would keep out it. Instead she just got her entire community riled up to make fun of Garret and Rammee and other CG, GG, and CB due to her putting in her opinion.
Oh yeh and GC and CB have never given a take that led to toxicity before. This is some weird cringe from K. How much hate do you think he sent to WB with this personal OOC bs?
Exactly cause once everyone has seen that entrance. Its hard to avoid it. Even if other gangs find that entrance the right way by solving the riddle, the general consensus behind it is going to be, they solved it because of CB, cause they meta gamed. Its as if once the first gang has done the riddle the other gangs must just drop everything and let the first gang do the heist. Cause if we're being honest every gang that solves it, after the first gang has solved it is going to be accused of meta
@@OkayOJ. Some idiot literally suggested just this. That when one gang solves the riddle, every other gang should just drop it and avoid it for a week or so and do 'other things'. Like...yeah, cause that's not ALSO metagaming? "Ooops, someone else got the answer, so I guess we just gotta forget that project we've been working on and do something else for a week with no good reason at all..."
@@weeboftheleft5113 No stopping and letting the gang that got the hint to finish the heist is also meta cause how'd you know that they got the hint? Thats a dumbass take. Its honestly hard to say how they should go about doing it honestly.
Really dumb take from Wolfa. She's basically saying Dean,Koil and the rest of the admins have 0 Integrity and would hand the answer out. CG has worked equally as hard as CB and GG and they deserve their progress. So weird when people try to stir up shit over a Video Game. Excited af to see what that Vault holds.
Kebun blew up and lasted this long and still going for a reason, man really is built different. His perspective is mostly great. Not many people can stand weird people.
it makes no sense how people are complaining about someone helping them solve the riddle. Who cares if someone ended up helping because no one knew the answer. If someone has an idea and someone tries it and it works that is fine. Nothing wring with that,
He explains it like its so simple. How the fuck does he expect X to explain how he solved the heist, explaining the things you need for the heist, prepare for the heist, and execute the first part of the heist, in 10 fucking seconds.
Her characters make me question how she doesn't have a room in mental ward. And to all who say it's just a character... characters are created from our own individual mind and a reflection of what we often keep trapped in that very dangerous brains of ours.
No matter what they do they're going to be accused of Meta... yes they might not have went about the WHOLE thing the right way but they were basically screwed from the start.
Or CG could just not metagame... I get what they mean, that if it had not been revealed then there wouldn't be any accusations of metagaming, since there would be no clips of it. But the content was there and of few cg members decided to metagame, noone forced them to watch the clips and they didn't moderate their chat. And if they're going to cheat, they should at least make it less obvious...
Nothing is wrong with her opinion her tone is so fcking bad though it's almost like she condescending them. I would be pissed also just because of her tone
I think when there is drama on the server on of the big groups are involved...right and those people who are involved should give their takes and anyone not imvoled should just stay away from it all
Reacting to clips and giving their opinion is what every streamer does. and isn't he also reacting to her clip and in the same way spreading hate towards her? These comments are already acting toxic towards her so hes kinda a hypocrite in way.
I understand how what he did can be perceived as hypocritical however how can you promote a change in a community without making an example out of someone and by judging the evidence? Look at most legal systems laws don’t usually get created until the judges make an example out of someone. Now this is just coincidence that he has to react to a clip about someone take from reacting about a clip
@@49candoit the most famous person on no pixel is zerka you’ve worded it weirdly doe to support mr k ( Josh if u included sidemen is bigger than xqc so allow it tryna tell me I’m wrong )
You can't control viewers tho and streamers are even stream to get views. If you hide your screen your viewers would get mad too. Honestly nothing can satisfy these people. I think they should have closed their chat just like when people get impostor role in among us. But i still think that is impossible to do for long time. Idk man this is hard. Just wish some people won't make it worse
Yes you can control your viewers. You have no idea how hard the viewers represent the streamers, and how hard the streamers community is actually influenced by the streamer himself.
You can’t control viewers. But your words and behavior does in fact influence what your viewers might do. And someone like xqc who has 100k average viewers that’s thousands of hoppers.
I lost my respect toward wolfbelle, i liked her stream because it’s a chill stream but yesterday it was whole different stream. she self-inserted/fueling to the drama that she aren’t relatable. Maybe the 8k viewers really did change her.
sooner or later, they're all will find it out with meta or not (from Yuno), they just have to wait a week or two, so it doesn't feel that obvious, right, or at least wait until the heist is done. 😁
I do have to agree, the way Wolfabelle reacted to Garrett's take only added more toxicity and bullshit towards the CG hate-train. But, I also have to agree that Wolfabelle's take was pretty solid if we are looking at this from a streamer's POV. I think the reason why Garrett reacted the way he did was because of these horrible death threats that came his way, his girlfriend, and the boys. Garrett wasn't even streaming, nor was Autumn during this shitfest, and they got hate for no reason. All because there was a reddit clip of Autumn being suspect of Room 503 which Ramee used to defend his position. This is dogshit. So, in response, Garrett made a blunder with his take, and it's something that is clearly pointed out by LordKebun here that it wasn't what Garrett meant to say. Now, my only question here is, what was Garrett trying to say? And even if Garrett made it sound horrible and it wasn't his intention to make it sound like the way it did, it doesn't mean Wolfabelle's take is dogshit. The onus and weight is on the person giving the take, and Wolfabelle responded aptly to that said-take. Nothing wrong there. Lordkebun reaching here, and is probably blinded by his anger towards her which I understsand. She looked real smug during both of her two reactions to this casino drama. I would too be pissed off. In any case, the only way for meta not to be leaked is for the ENTIRE HEIST to be done off stream. Or... or... or... don't engage with meta or respond to it. Have your mods take care of it and swiftly ban people. Don't fucking address it. Ban particular words that are not allowed in chat: "casino", "X", "503", etc (again, up to your mods discretion on what they think is meta). Keep your hands off of anything that might lead to getting accused of meta, because Ramee and Randy CLEARLY knew when going into the heist what kind of shitstorm this was about to brew, in much the same way they knew how everything was going to go down when they breached GG's vault as well.
how exactly would the content would be ruined if they hid just the entry for the heist? X did look for it off stream, and regardless if he got the info on reddit or elsewhere, the point is that he confirmed the answer, right?. So now, unless DW gives the answer to everyone else or CB gives the other the answer, there is no way for other crew to progress without hate being throw at them, especially CG. And now the Cassino heist might as well be just the CB heist. Also meta is not only being sent to them via twitch chat but ALL their other socials.
brother, XQC figured it all out OFF STREAM, so how can you say that? if you are looking at a streamers pov surely he should have done it all on stream? how would hiding your screen for an extra 30 seconds hurt anyone after doing the entire thing with eyes closed anyway?
@@Didi_Online Content wasn't ruined, and nobody I said that. I don't think Wolfabelle said that either (need to look back at the vod). But, it won't be as "hype" anymore. X had even apologized to chat for not being able to stream it when he found it. In the end, even if they just "hid the entry" for the heist, it would have been pointless because he explained it verbally to CB during the meeting at Clean Manor. Litearlly after the meeting, chat was alreadly spoiling it to Ramee by saying: 503. 503. 503. 503.
@@mulesa101 that makes no sense. It wont be "hype" because you miss 10 sec? bs. if anything them blacking out then coming to in a completely new area with nobody knowing how would be even more hype not to mention it would prevent toxicity and allow each community to get hyped as their own streamers figure it out naturally. Its literally the best scenario for every community.
@@mulesa101 I dont think you understand. I dont blame X for not streaming the answer...Do I think that founding out live would be a better option than the one that ended up happening ???? (basically him explaining step by step) hell yes! It's even better content for him if you think about it. My point is that SINCE he did found out off stream, they might as well hide the answer, not the rest of the content that comes after they enter the wall, just the entry point.
Hiding the stream is not an option. So the devs (Dean) need to come up with some way to make the heists fair for everyone whether they do it first or last. If you make it a puzzle, once the puzzle is found out, the surprise is over. The next heist should be purely skill based. No meta unlock needed, just who can complete it
@@DakotaTheRota it's kinda dumb. If you hide your screen so that others don't meta, you might as well not stream gta at all. Cops have to pretend that they don't know who is under a mask all the time, so are we gonna have to buy voice changers and cover our screens when doing heists now? Lol
@@TheDailyEgg That point is stupid. They do it so others don't even get a chance to begin to meta. If you want to protect something you'll take the very minor inconvenience of blacking out your screen. Anyone who cares about them walking through a door is probably special. If they just black out them entering 503 and the door they stop any issues on arrival. There's no chance for people to call meta and they get to keep the unlock for themselves. Also. It's an RP server. There's a lot more to the server then a heist.
@@TheDailyEgg yeah man it is so dumb, thats why im really glad the puzzle was figured out on stream so we all got see how it was figured out, doing that shit off stream with nobody watching would of just been so cringe. fuckCG bro
i don’t think cg purposefully meta facebook chat just says things that is meta out of nowhere i saw a clip that said where x was even tho cg and x where good at that point
The reality is, that CG won't be able to do this heist anyway and CB will be the ones to do it. CG don't have good enough hackers to do it. Unless Dw will make it easier again, just like he did with VAR.
so much content walking threw a door lol... would be the same if they just hid screen from casino to just inside the door. don't need to walk down the cave or anything just the other side of the door... streamers could even use that to hype it up more "are you ready chat! you wanna see..."
So this boils down to the reason they can't avoid meta gaming is because of toxic people in twitch chat that can't not troll or spoil or say something thinking they're helping. Honestly not showing the solution would ruin the content for the people who found it... who are the ones who deserve to reveal it because they were the first to solve it.. but because of that it's inevitable that now every other streamer has atleast a clear lead on where to go.. and cg is honestly doing well to not metagame and act like they just got a tip
Imagine thinking the riddle to how to start the heist is the content of the heist and not the actual heist itself. And lol it’s more than just twitch chat buddy it’s Twitter dms and mentions as well as other platforms as well. What a stupid take lol oh my god that’s such good content it spelled out 503 that’s worth at least 300k viewers right there
Great advice from Kebun. If only he and his friends followed it as well. Telling people not to harass others as he is mocking another streamer lmao. Pretty sure Evee got death threats last week from his community.
Kebun has good takes but he is such a hypocrite when it comes to cg. Cg is never gonna be at fault in his eye. And streamers really shouldnt have to hide their content. Imagine having to lose content because cg couldnt help but meta. He is just ignoring the whole meta part. If he is gonna being up what the girl said bring up the meta accusations
I don't get why everything that comes against CG leads to a big drama, if someone like wolfabelle had something to say who are u to even stop her from saying it? like with wat happened with Penta and that Faze guy u gave ur take on it and no one asked u to do it. does that make u a " wiredo"?
He explained why he spoke. 1 she hopped on the hate train. 2. she did not understand what Garrett said. Her take was actually at reddit level "Hide the content" No hide 10 seconds that could meta guard.
@@dbcmate9968 ok but 1. he hopped on the hate train with penta drama. 2. he didnt understand wat or why penta did wat he do. so i dont see how is this differant.
@@chrisjo7318 Trying to explain to braindead cg viewers is a waste of time. CG are allowed to do something but when it's done to them they began to cry and complain.
Yeah, i went through the video thinking it was going to be way worse than what it was. In past clips I've seen about her she usually acts like that, so I don't believe she was overdramatizing for the situation, and what she said really wasn't all that bad. Was it her place? No, but it felt like K was just trying to deflect from the drama going on with his squad.
It's not that people can't control themselves, it's more of the way the heist was set up. If you flip the roles and CG found the answer first, then CB figure it out, people will still blame them of cheating regardless because that information is out there now. I agree with what someone else in this comment section said where Dean or whoever should give each gang unique hints, that way it kinda counteracts all this bullshit
@@iamBazzy But it is easy to avoid acting on it. NoPixel is most successful when everybody is interested in helping each other create great content and enjoy themselves. There has to be a happy medium between competition and collaboration. The point isn't to win. Everybody gets pissed at cops when they play for Ws, but is that not what CG was doing all day yesterday? They were blatantly meta gaming to try to force an unlock they didn't earn. What they should have done was immediately back off, give X his moment for solving the riddle, be happy for CB to get a shot at it, and wait for the meta unlock that they will be getting in the next few days. Instead, they acted like children. It's not hard to be humble. It's not hard to be happy for your coworkers.
@@bdbaseball17 CG: im happy someone finally figured out the casino. Chat/reddit/RUclips: Why are you not happy for your coworkers? Why you do dis? Why you do that? Give them a break. Everything CG did that day was because of a chain of events that started with someone twatting about the casino. CB has the right to do the heist. The PD has the right to intervene. And CG has the right to act like they want, taking advantage of the situation is also RP. Not everything will go how you or your streamer wants, and that's the magic of RP.
@@virnieto That’s ridiculous. Kevin handled it well, but everybody on CG yesterday was awful. Twat or not, there is no reason for them to be camping that specific hotel room. There is no reason for them to be placing cameras conveniently at the entry to the heist. Their egos got in the way and they couldn’t take not being first so they tried to force a meta unlock. Trying to suggest otherwise is just willful ignorance.
@@bdbaseball17 tell me when they "camped" it. After they put up cameras they went to do a S+ vin scratch. And after that they went to sleep. They literally didn't even act on anything but people lose their minds, why?
Just gonna say it all this happened bcz ramee wanted the unlock right then and there he just couldn't wait that's it if he would have waited at least 2 days it would have been a lot better
It's not like she's attacking Garrett though. She didn't agree with his take so fucking what 🤣 not the first time though, randy went in on her OOC for a scuff handcuff and started liking hate tweets directed at her.
Good in Randy's case think bigger picture it's not just about her fun it should be about everyone's fun It's genuinely a good idea hide 10 20 seconds the entire fucking drama bullshit would be avoided and it shouldn't be a touchy subject why cuz ppl on wl or their streamer can't meta it good that he did she isn't thinking about the whole picture a 10 20 seconds should not ruin the heist fun when ppl are receiving death threats streamers should do it even in It's not really it's genuinely a good idea hide 10 20 seconds the entire fucking drama bullshit would be avoided and it shouldn't be a touchy subject why cuz ppl on wl or their streamer can't meta it there should be no reason why 10 20 seconds should ruin a heist fucking grow up yes sometimes viewers actions impact many streamers which will impact viewers VIEWING experience surprise pikachu face 👁️👄👁️ death threats in the RP world shouldn't be ignored there are crazy ppl and youll never know if it's fake till it's too late case think bigger picture it's not just about her fun it should be about everyone's fun
Ok I get that this is not her place to be saying this stuff but I actually agree with her......The door part was one of the best parts of the heist .....I mean it literally is the reveal to something they have been looking for a month now....And I don't think CG would ever have hidden their screens if they were first
Yeah but it wasn't like it was dumbest take ever heard. Its an option Garrett was throwing out that was clearly hypothetical that could've saved some of the meta flowing around. That's why it just came out as just obnoxious the way she reacted to it like it was the dumbest thing in the world. Either way it don't really matter server is gonna move on.
Ikr but his takes are just him using common sense and it's sad how people don't even know that his takes are mostly comprised of him just using plain common sense and nothing else 😂
All I’m gonna say is chats are always gonna pick sides Reddit will always start shit and heck even us in the RUclips comments will have an opinion but you would think the no pixel community would always have each other’s backs ooc bc they all basically co workers so it was a little weird for her to go in like that basically bashing a co worker. An I watch wolfabelle from time to time her cop character is always entertaining and funny but she needs to do better ooc. Don’t feed into hate chat
nothing, just crashes her PD bike given to her just for the sake of it and thats it. she got a crim character called bianca who barely comes around and when she does during the early hours she hangs around the 2-3 mandem who come on the server early.
I mean. Harassment is always bad and nothing excuses it. That being said, about the rest of the take, hiding the entrance is silly, on the matter of a Streamer perspective, showing that you figured out and showing your audience THE entrance for the Heist, naturally sparks a lot of views. Second, Heists became a thing because Streamers and Audience made it so. The "progression" and the "race for first" became a HUGE thing and that's what most audience ended up caring about everytime with a new heist. People want to see the race, people want to see who gets in first. If you meta, well... People will think you're disingenuous about your 'victory'. It's cheating. People will hop on angry accusations against cheaters, it's how it works.
Streamers hide their screens for so many diff games to stop from things like stream sniping or in RP its been done a lot. Shit in 2.0 Mehdi, Curtis, and Shotz used to have to hide their screens for 5 mins every time they went to pick up weapons from their crafting spot. 20 secs of that is not the fucking end of the world. You tell your audience you are hiding the entrance but you get to see the heist......Simple....like your brain if you think hiding your screen for 20 secs causes any issues.
@@konqu3rthe1st80 Buddy. That was in 2.0, with people already experienced in GTA RP. Not people with 40-100k viewers that want to show off their results, and knowing that showing off the entrance, just grant that "Said Gang did first!" because of how 'competitive' the progression became. Different times, different scenarios. Doesn't work fully the same.
There is sooooo much more to figure out for this heist than just the hidden door. Honestly just leave the group that discovered it first alone for 1-2 days, other groups will get the meta unlock for the door one way or another and then they can still figure out all of the rest of the heist for themselves. K is right, "no rush, everyone chill the fuck out".
Why are people acting like you need to be involved in a situation to know how to meta or not whether they hide the screen or not why would it matter anyways? Are other streamers watching? How hard is it to use common sense that hey maybe I shouldn’t watch a streamer do what I’m trying to figure out
Bad take. Don't even comment. It just takes one viewer to say "Entrance is room 503" and you're fucked. If they hid the 10 seconds of them going into the room then nobody would've been accused of meta.
Back to the koil clip of saying he loves kevin for coming at people straight up and not doing behind there backs. Speak with your chest kebun.
How much more direct would you like him to be? Asking for a friend.
@@andrewkd9886 I think you missed his point...
@@andrewkd9886 are you dense? He’s complimenting kebun for speaking up about it by referring to the koil clip
Ohhh I misreading that :/
@@andrewkd9886 you're alright bro. Shits too serious out here in a video game.
Nobody should be receiving hate over a video game whether they meta’d or not.
Thankyou
As much as you are true, your word doesnt matter because they are just too invested, and by they I meant the viewers who takes everything up to their asses
@@arcanelv3366 and most of them r literally bunch of 12 years olds so no point in arguing with them
@@gxbot fax
True, but Ramee needs to be smarter about the way he goes about things. As long as he keeps on watching meta clips of ongoing situations he's going to get hate and be accused of meta gaming. Like what did he expect to happen when he literally put a camera pointing directly at the shower in room 503 immediately after watching a clip of the shower secret shower door? I'm not saying he deserves hate, but he's got to stop watching meta clips of ongoing situations if he wants the hate to stop.
its tru tho everything does happens when K is not around lol
Lol it’s the same thing with all Leaders for some reason. Shit happens when Lang is not around either. This is why a gang or group always needs a leader
We used to get wars on his day off 🤣
@@bhaskar3200 HOA as well, meta dump Monday lol
Same with mandem, tommy takes a day off and some crazy shit happens
@@mediumrare444 really that's how a majority of the wars with cg in 2.0 would start when Kevin wouldn't wake up Chang
People realize that HOA basically did what Garrett suggested for months with meth production right? This isn't new at all. I'm pretty sure Buddha did something similar with coke as well
They all hide the coke and HOA hid the meth for months. People who think 10 seconds of hiding a door is losing content is wild.
@@TheRedrider27 I think you missed the fact that X already explained how to get into the tunnel during the meeting at Clean Manor so even if they turned off eyes for 10 seconds before going in, it would have been moot, but what do I know.
@@mulesa101 but if they hide the secret door to a viewer its just an idea you dont know if X was lying about the entrance
The coke is because Koil told them too
@@jasonthrees356 He literally EXPLAINED it in clean manor. I don't know why you are fighting this.
Girl was shy and nice when she was new... Played cop, got some power and turned into a bully like the rest of them... Makes sense.
and she thinks she is a RP expert now.
She seems to have this kind of issue all over, right? Even in amongus, and other games. She constantly seems to have these weird insert issues where she just... lowkey seems to just WANT to be condescending to others.
yup cause she got stans
@@unbothered5240 Ah...i remember those among us drama in hafu lobbies...
@@400lux7 and even then Hafu addressed it professionally, and even offered her help and it seemed like Wolf just wanted everyone to cater to her. She had an inferiority issue with everyone listening to hafu in HER OWN lobbies. Etc etc.
She's got a pretty bad streak of egocentric issues...so her doing this isn't shocking, but it is kinda sad. She's way too grown to be adding fuel to the flames in this manner. Especially just for the drama. There's nothing productive coming from her input.
At least not in this clip.
no hate to her but she’s always been the type to hop on shit that doesn’t even involve her
We all know she's a CB fangirl from the start, so I'm not surprised tbh
Shes had such a hate boner for CG but mainly Rated. It's unbelievable her dogshit takes even matter
She's a classic example of a clout chaser. Sucks she has a dev wrapped around her finger (wiseguy) so she probably feels invincible against consequences.
@@TheDeathKiller007 nah she goes around saying buddha is weird while watching his clips and always shit talks Xqc. her chat are always calling cb meta gamers, it just seems that she has a cop mindset
@@vizionpsbo8105 even in other games lol no one likes to play with her
Lmaooo, Kebun calls these losers out. Koil even said that's why he respects Kebun.
100% agreed but shes got mad stans so it blew up sadge
You gotta understand some people in these comments legit don’t have friends irl so they don’t understand him sticking up for his boys
Some weird ass creatures in these comments man
Facts
Wolfabelle has a thing for involving herself in unnecessary drama. She was like kicked out of Hafu’s among us lobbies, which was like drama free
Next heist should have different riddles for each gang which lead to different start points
Literally telling the devs to put in more work with their already shit compensation that they get just because the streamers on NoPixel can't wait a couple of days for someone else to progress in RP.
@@mulesa101 Well it's not like they're pressed for time. Dean was already talking about changing heists anyway so shit like this ain't so bad.
@@phalangee thats why he said 5o have different hints for each gang, smoothbrain
@Xzlemin Then by your logic, every heist needs to be entirely different for each particular gang. You think chat will only spoil and throw a fit of meta information that leads to the start of a heist? Even if CB/GG turned off their stream entirely and started streaming at the tunnel, they would eventually reveal meta relevant information in regards to new puzzles and how to figure them out, secret doors, tools/items you need for the heist, etc. The meta still continues after the start of the heist. So, it is fucking pointless because the first group to do it, will always be safe, and any other groups who do figure it out will always be suspect of it. There is LITERALLY no way to stop dumbass chat from accusing people of meta'ing.
@@phalangee When did I ever say that I want streamers to disconnect themselves to avoid meta? Just avoid the casino heist and do some other shit while the first group who found it will get the first crack at the heist. Not that hard. It won't stop dumbass chat from speculating, but it will be less of shitstorm.
Wolfabelle needs to learn to stop reacting to drama clips and fueling more hoppers, look at wiseguy he said at the start of the stream he wasn't gonna talk about the drama because it didn't involve him and hes a dev
ramee should also learn that
@@kafalrabousa8254 huh? This drama literally directly involves CG cause they are getting hate bruh
@@kafalrabousa8254 aye bro isnt yo job scamming?
@@yungboi3416 didn’t k just call someone a weirdo ooc n insult her but their getting hate ? Okay mate
@@antonioprice8081 I never said k didn’t hate on her just like I ain’t sayin I’m not hatin on you. The difference is she hopped on the hate train and twisted Garrett’s words on a situation she was not involved in at all lmaoooooo learn how to read kid
Wolfe’s simps going hard on Reddit lol
I seen that too, I think some of the sub-reddit mods are her mods the way they go on.
Dude one of the nicest and best roleplayers on the server is Garret and he deserves every benefit of the doubt and it is a huge shame Wolfeabelle did not respect him. Like yeah he did not state it well and Kebun did good at explaining what he meant which makes a lot of sense. Wolfabelle and others should stop talking about this on stream if they have nothing positive to state as it just spread the hate more even if she did not intend that. But as per usual the most toxic people in all of NoPixel are chats claiming meta about something they have no involvement in.
She makes a great point tho. What you're saying is other streamers shouldn't call out things they don't agree with? I love Kebun and the bois but you can tell his take is emotional and biased because it's his bois. Wolf's take is the prevailing one here, imo.
@@a.m.4049 shes a cop main, who should stick in her lane.
@@a.m.4049 Her take was about one of the nicest and most og roleplayers on the server yet what she stated about him was negative and was something she knew nothing about. A streamer can have their opinion but if it is not something positive OR you do not know the full story to talk about it then you should not bring it on stream as it just stirs up more hate. IDC what your opinion is on this whole thing, none of the streamers should be receiving so much hate even to the point of death threats. Takes like what Wolfabelle did only encourages that type of toxicity more, even if she did not intend it. That is what Kebun was mad about and rightfully so.
@@michaelgallacher4800 You can not agree with the idea but that does not make the idea bad. The purpose of hiding those 10 seconds is for the sake of the remaining roleplayers still figuring it out. Even Ray spoke out how he feels bad for anyone out of CB as it just takes one viewer to come in and say that room number and not only is the whole thing spoiled for them but they get accused of meta.
And for someone you states they do not agree with the hate you seem to spread a lot of it saying their takes are idiotic and that Kebun was wrong to defend his boys who were literally getting death threats because of meta accusations. How about viewers stop worrying so much about shit they have no involvement in or is that too mature of a response.
@@michaelgallacher4800 no u extra chromosome 12 year old nobody said hide the heist content lol. They said hide the answer to the riddle and how to get into the heist. Then once you are in you show the content. K literally explained it lol. Tell me u didn’t watch the video and made stuff up without telling me you didn’t watch the video and made stuff up
It makes sense though its hard to avoid something that's right infront of you. Once you seen the hint no matter what you try to do that hint is always going to be in the back of your mind. Every possible solution you come up with naturally is going to be directed back to that hint.
And once another gang has found the hint, let's be honest when the next gang start progressing and solving the riddle, Reddit and other gangs communities are going to label it as meta. No matter what route you to solve it the general consensus is going to be "you only solved it because you knew what to do, because you meta gamed and saw how the first gang did it. In this case CB"
So once its solved its pretty hard to do anything about it its almost as if at that point you just drop everything and let the gang that solved the riddle just fully finish the heist. Cause there after there is absolutely no way you progress through it without being accused of meta, without getting any hate and backlash about the legitimacy of how you managed to solve it. Its honestly impossible.
Don't watch meta clips online. That may help in my opinion
As a streamer I can choose to bring out of char into the game but I choose not to and it helped keep my chat tame bc they understand I’m just playing a game and they are watching not per taking. I get tons of dms etc but once I load gta rp I keep ooc out of the game. What happens inside game I keep inside except for certain friends who understand yt streaming. So don’t be in ooc into game and solves 99% of the meta etc. I watch clips every sat that’s it bc I choose to not during the exact moment like streamers in np wl haha
@@nickbennett940 it doesn't. People couldn't engage with chat for days because people post hints and answers. You might just see it and that's just that. For example it's known x got the blowing of power and then going into the hotel from chat and it's known. You get atleast some info guaranteed because viewers cannot help themselves and mods cannot check every message, even Ray was talking about this because he got accusations of meta. People should just shut up about the meta accusations in these things where multiple gangs are trying something if it's not like Train saying in not so suddle way that he googled how the methlabs work in NP. It's getting so tiring to cry how this and that person meta'd Always when these big puzzle things are going on.
It's not even when other gang has solved something. People outside NP spend their time solving it (in groups propably even) and bombard with what they got/suggest/think it is. For example the riddle was out there for all to see and viewers know the added places and original map so they can do it aswell and just spam chat.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 clips not chat
The hiding the screen for the 503 room or atleast the bathroom door is kinda a way where they hide it properly since it is almost impossible to guess it and it keeps the drama of someone metaing info out of the question. Cause that's what buddha did with the coke/phone number to get the coke delivery
Thank you holy fuck i thought i was insane that 10 20 seconds is a good idea so ppl didn't have to deal with death threats and shit the amount of ppl still saying shit take blows my mind i thought that when they did it live
you do know a girl RPer figured it out ages ago, but boys be boys and not listen and DW had to give them extra hints to help the lamos lol
@@lazygamer7176 autumn?
@@lazygamer7176 she didnt figure anything out, she just said room 503 was weird because it was highlighted, which everyone did it wasnt only her, regardless talking about the hiding for metaguard, yes that could be an idea and it would be a good idea but you wouldnt have to hide it for 10 seconds, more like for 10 minutes, from the moment you step in the casino you would have to hide your screen because u dont even want to show a single bit of where this exact thing takes action, and i dont think most people wouldnt want that cuz they want the big reveal i guess.
Why ppl also hide screens for benches.
Lol I like how wolfabelles take was that Garrett had a bad take. But she didn’t say her take at all and she waited for chat to react to it before she said anything. That was very weird
Correction her take was that he wanted RP over content. Which again she obviously didn’t understand what he was saying but still that take is dog shiite. No he just doesn’t want people to get hate for something they can’t avoid as in meta accusations
Garrett had a bad take, you cannot ask a streamer not to stream something just because others receive the meta by watching clips or reading chat.
Wolfabelle was 100% correct on it.
@@roadrage9191 It's not really it's genuinely a good idea hide 10 20 seconds the entire fucking drama bullshit would be avoided and it shouldn't be a touchy subject why cuz ppl on wl or their streamer can't meta it there should be no reason why 10 20 seconds should ruin a heist fucking grow up yes sometimes viewers actions impact many streamers which will impact viewers VIEWING experience surprise pikachu face 👁️👄👁️ death threats in the RP world shouldn't be ignored there are crazy ppl and youll never know if it's fake till it's too late
@@cronicboi4208
You can also avoid the BS if CG, CB and HOA agreed that the first to find it get a couple of days to take advantage to get the unlocks and share the secret after those days.
After that no spamming and blocking other crews but devide timeslots to hit it.
Hiding content is not a good solution for CB and X, you punish them as Ramee cannot stop himself from watching clips.
@@roadrage9191 your literally saying 10 to 20 seconds is going to ruin the content you're delusional same way CB and CG do coke the fucking same way HOA did meth tf are you saying seeing 503 once in chat you already have a confirmation bias it avoids "Ramee" from being able to do it aswell since you mentioned him
I thought the scenes where X described how he solved the riddle and them walking through the shower door was insane. They earned those moments to be shown to their viewers because they did find it first.
Yup 100%. CG are banned from doing the casino heist for a reason.
Exactly who is she,how is she connected to any of this lmao. If she wants clout,do it in a better way.
Exactly,kebun just praised x and everyone included with him but others who got nothing to do with it and she isn't doing it for the first time,she just hates cg even when they don't even know her.
At first I watched Rated's reaction and there was no real context behind it so I was confused why he was getting angry. Now watching this, it makes a lot more sense.
Same ones who hate this idea are the same ones who complained about cg meta on yt and reddit clips, complained in their streamers' chat and /or chat hopped to angry type.
We love both CB and CG and all the content they bring for us bored at home. Literally who even is that girl.
agreed love both groups and that fact that she gives her take and not involved at all is just dumb but shes got stans so it bows up
Wolf being Ramee OMG
Garrett doesn't even say anything that wild its just such a touchy subject.
It's not really it's genuinely a good idea hide 10 20 seconds the entire fucking drama bullshit would be avoided and it shouldn't be a touchy subject why cuz ppl on wl or their streamer can't meta it there should be no reason why 10 20 seconds should ruin a heist
@@cronicboi4208 Garrett said it the wrong way. Even Kebun knows that. You don't tell your stream how others SHOULD do their own content.
@@MicoMV that's actually a good point and i did not take that into consideration
Finally someone said it, she wants to be in the middle of everything.
She watched a clip, like every streamer does
@@raizas223 Her reaction was negative like every other cop viewer
She reacts to nopixel clips all the time. I love CG too and the streamers but they are in the wrong here. Kebun is mad because she's laughing about his bois.
Shes right btw,bcus CG was meta
@@KINGXSAMOAN and?
Let’s be honest as viewers we all wanted to know what the hint was and how to do shit so then not hiding it was actually so much content cause when X revealed it everyone fucking lost it. So I still think Belle is correct in some way. Yeah it’s ideal to hide your screen or whatever but as content creators uk for sure chat wanted to see. So many subs were given when it was revealed
Pretty much and X Deserved to show it to everyone people have been shitting/trolling him making fun of him and praising everyone else. The Juicer was on streaming for 11 hours and then went for a 10 hour offline degen grinding and found it. 200K people saw this and he wanted to show to everyone HE DID IT! It is 100% understandable for him and No just dont watch clips or meta. simple as that.
It's not what she said pissed K off, it's how she said it. Anyways, Wolfabelle has a habit starting drama, pretty sure she kicked out off Hafu lobbies because of similar shit
@@muzzle_4717 the thing with Hafu lobby was that she didn’t feel like their friend and she wanted to. Other than that I don’t think I’ve seen her in drama
@@sackuwu7025 nice way of saying "I got kicked out for starting drama".
Kebun always has good takes
Garrett’s take really wasn’t that crazy. Hide your screen for 10 seconds, which is literally you just going through a door, and then you’re good. There’s no “hiding content” in that. It’s literally going through a fucking door. I think his take was just taken out of proportion or misinterpreted
I guess K is trying to say clips like Wolfabelle only fuel that misinformation.
Best take so far
Next heist. CG gets one thing to do. 1/2 then CB gets something else that leads to part 2/2 then both gangs come together to start a heist and it’ll be like that event at the docks. Without the cops of course tho.
would be insane
That’s what I was hoping for for this heist. We know either way, one gang was going to get fucked over. It would be sick AF and piss chat off so much, if CB and CG worked together in a way to make RP out of the situation. For example, CB could offer a piece of info from the casino heist for exchange for money or something else. Normally CG finds things first, so CB could offer them casino info in exchange for info for anything else they may find in the future, like if CG figures out a future heist they have to tell CB, or something. This would keep toxicity down, and chat hoppers would not be able to say shit if they worked together OOC to come up with a way to RP this info. CB knows what it’s like to be accused of meta and shit when CG finds stuff first, and vice versa, and both gangs should want to keep the hate down to a minimum and like K said it’s hard to get info naturally with all the shit in chat and it’s hard to block it out of your brain, so if gangs would somehow make RP out new info would be sick.
Wolfabelle reacting and getting involved and talking on it has to be the most cringe thing ever. Like what did her contribution change at all. totally wasn’t needed
it’s called an opinion
I see nothing wrong with giving your input.
@@paradoxx4479 you realize there’s a difference between a streamer and a viewer giving an “opinion” right…
@@3self I mean when your faning the flames of a already toxic topic, generally you would keep out it. Instead she just got her entire community riled up to make fun of Garret and Rammee and other CG, GG, and CB due to her putting in her opinion.
Oh yeh and GC and CB have never given a take that led to toxicity before. This is some weird cringe from K. How much hate do you think he sent to WB with this personal OOC bs?
Blacking out for the
Exactly cause once everyone has seen that entrance. Its hard to avoid it. Even if other gangs find that entrance the right way by solving the riddle, the general consensus behind it is going to be, they solved it because of CB, cause they meta gamed.
Its as if once the first gang has done the riddle the other gangs must just drop everything and let the first gang do the heist.
Cause if we're being honest every gang that solves it, after the first gang has solved it is going to be accused of meta
@@OkayOJ. Some idiot literally suggested just this. That when one gang solves the riddle, every other gang should just drop it and avoid it for a week or so and do 'other things'. Like...yeah, cause that's not ALSO metagaming? "Ooops, someone else got the answer, so I guess we just gotta forget that project we've been working on and do something else for a week with no good reason at all..."
@@weeboftheleft5113 No stopping and letting the gang that got the hint to finish the heist is also meta cause how'd you know that they got the hint? Thats a dumbass take.
Its honestly hard to say how they should go about doing it honestly.
Really dumb take from Wolfa. She's basically saying Dean,Koil and the rest of the admins have 0 Integrity and would hand the answer out. CG has worked equally as hard as CB and GG and they deserve their progress. So weird when people try to stir up shit over a Video Game. Excited af to see what that Vault holds.
Wolfabelle has NO life and NO real friends outside of gaming
K has a point. This could have been an entire different thing if they hid the screens for 10 to 20 seconds
Lol requesting other people hide there content cause you can’t resist metagaming lmaooooooo
Why would a streamer grind a game hours and hours for their viewers just to hide it at the end? That's stupid.
Lmao because they are incapable of not metaing? That's the implication here
@@915tin requesting people to hide their screens is just weird honestly. Imagine doing hard work for your viewers then hiding it.
@@Ed-tj9ke exactly “yo I can’t help but look at these meta videos can you maybe metaguard so I don’t get the urge”
K mocking the girl was hilarious 😂
Yeah, mocking girls is soooooo cool
It actually is in this case. Whether she was a girl or a guy it’s a dumb take that deserves to be mocked.
@@MewDenise she started it, can't get mad if she's getting it back
@@MewDenise Aww you still a simp two years later?
Kebun blew up and lasted this long and still going for a reason, man really is built different. His perspective is mostly great. Not many people can stand weird people.
Damn why he gotta shade my favorite book club in the server 😭
Honestly I think Kebun has one of the best takes and understanding of RP and content as well as on other topics
it makes no sense how people are complaining about someone helping them solve the riddle. Who cares if someone ended up helping because no one knew the answer. If someone has an idea and someone tries it and it works that is fine. Nothing wring with that,
Same girl who asked about the GNE in front of everyone during a town hall meeting is weighing in on meta. SMH
LITERALLY 😂
K always spits facts. I couldn't even watch RP that day because of weirdos and gatekeepers ruining fun.
i dont get why give a take on something you know nothing bout when the other ppl are getting harassed
It's called clout chasing. Mimic reddit threads get approval by reddit idiots.
And now people are harassing her so...
He explains it like its so simple. How the fuck does he expect X to explain how he solved the heist, explaining the things you need for the heist, prepare for the heist, and execute the first part of the heist, in 10 fucking seconds.
Discord
Chill guys she's just roleplaying as self-insert character in real life
Her characters make me question how she doesn't have a room in mental ward. And to all who say it's just a character... characters are created from our own individual mind and a reflection of what we often keep trapped in that very dangerous brains of ours.
First gang to do the first part show have 2 day head start on the next part, to balance the unavoidable meta.
Should*
Wolfabelle is just getting extra views for causing more drama and watching clips. She is literally a reaction channel as her own content is meh.
I actually like her content, I love insects channel. I love the two caterpillars on top of her eyes.
@@1PercentMomFker aren't they slugs?
Say it with your chest Kebun!
No matter what they do they're going to be accused of Meta... yes they might not have went about the WHOLE thing the right way but they were basically screwed from the start.
Isn't she a cop streamer anyway?
Something wrong with that? You wanna get a gun, go out there and shot cops in the head in irl or something, kid?
Or CG could just not metagame...
I get what they mean, that if it had not been revealed then there wouldn't be any accusations of metagaming, since there would be no clips of it. But the content was there and of few cg members decided to metagame, noone forced them to watch the clips and they didn't moderate their chat. And if they're going to cheat, they should at least make it less obvious...
Nothing is wrong with her opinion her tone is so fcking bad though it's almost like she condescending them. I would be pissed also just because of her tone
How many times did the boys react to drama clips and give there take?
I think when there is drama on the server on of the big groups are involved...right and those people who are involved should give their takes and anyone not imvoled should just stay away from it all
@@salient5499 i agree. But the reality is that cg always give there opinions on other people drama and now his mad that she talk about this.
Reacting to clips and giving their opinion is what every streamer does. and isn't he also reacting to her clip and in the same way spreading hate towards her? These comments are already acting toxic towards her so hes kinda a hypocrite in way.
No he isnt.
I understand how what he did can be perceived as hypocritical however how can you promote a change in a community without making an example out of someone and by judging the evidence? Look at most legal systems laws don’t usually get created until the judges make an example out of someone. Now this is just coincidence that he has to react to a clip about someone take from reacting about a clip
He made her taste her own medicine. Nothing is wrong with that.
You will always be my favorite streamer bro. You just are one of the real ones like TrainWrecks. A real person and always speak facts man.
They just have to wait a week and Yuno will give them it
I mean she was the one who yelled out what about the GNE in court then never played the character again 😆 🤣
Wolfa Belly OMEGALUL
yeah i am cb viewer and he is completely right
Out of everyone in NoPixel, you could tell why hes the most famous "rper" along with buddha
He’s not doe
@@antonioprice8081 He is doe.
@@antonioprice8081 just because he’s on Facebook don’t mean nothing, would avg the same as Buddha has right now
@@antonioprice8081 he is tho he is basically top 3 role players in nopixel with mr k and buddha being in first place cause both are equally as good
@@49candoit the most famous person on no pixel is zerka you’ve worded it weirdly doe to support mr k ( Josh if u included sidemen is bigger than xqc so allow it tryna tell me I’m wrong )
they shouldn’t have to hide their content……. it’s what they do…….
Wolfabelle is full of drama. No one cares about her anyway
You can't control viewers tho and streamers are even stream to get views. If you hide your screen your viewers would get mad too. Honestly nothing can satisfy these people. I think they should have closed their chat just like when people get impostor role in among us. But i still think that is impossible to do for long time. Idk man this is hard. Just wish some people won't make it worse
Yes you can control your viewers. You have no idea how hard the viewers represent the streamers, and how hard the streamers community is actually influenced by the streamer himself.
You can’t control viewers. But your words and behavior does in fact influence what your viewers might do. And someone like xqc who has 100k average viewers that’s thousands of hoppers.
I lost my respect toward wolfbelle, i liked her stream because it’s a chill stream but yesterday it was whole different stream. she self-inserted/fueling to the drama that she aren’t relatable.
Maybe the 8k viewers really did change her.
sooner or later, they're all will find it out with meta or not (from Yuno), they just have to wait a week or two, so it doesn't feel that obvious, right, or at least wait until the heist is done. 😁
Feel like she doesn't understand and isn't trying to. She isn't involved but now she knows the Metta guys cops be posted on the entry
She is a weirdo, she been lowkey hatin on CG since she was a cadet and powergamed on ramee. She is farming reacts for her youtube react channel.
People love hopping to the CG hate train cuz we the best 🤷🏽♂️
MF said “we” 🤣🤣🤣😂😂
@@essak2159 bro 🤣🤣🤣
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They want the clout 💀
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Popcorn time 😂
I do have to agree, the way Wolfabelle reacted to Garrett's take only added more toxicity and bullshit towards the CG hate-train. But, I also have to agree that Wolfabelle's take was pretty solid if we are looking at this from a streamer's POV.
I think the reason why Garrett reacted the way he did was because of these horrible death threats that came his way, his girlfriend, and the boys. Garrett wasn't even streaming, nor was Autumn during this shitfest, and they got hate for no reason. All because there was a reddit clip of Autumn being suspect of Room 503 which Ramee used to defend his position. This is dogshit.
So, in response, Garrett made a blunder with his take, and it's something that is clearly pointed out by LordKebun here that it wasn't what Garrett meant to say. Now, my only question here is, what was Garrett trying to say? And even if Garrett made it sound horrible and it wasn't his intention to make it sound like the way it did, it doesn't mean Wolfabelle's take is dogshit. The onus and weight is on the person giving the take, and Wolfabelle responded aptly to that said-take. Nothing wrong there. Lordkebun reaching here, and is probably blinded by his anger towards her which I understsand. She looked real smug during both of her two reactions to this casino drama. I would too be pissed off.
In any case, the only way for meta not to be leaked is for the ENTIRE HEIST to be done off stream. Or... or... or... don't engage with meta or respond to it. Have your mods take care of it and swiftly ban people. Don't fucking address it. Ban particular words that are not allowed in chat: "casino", "X", "503", etc (again, up to your mods discretion on what they think is meta). Keep your hands off of anything that might lead to getting accused of meta, because Ramee and Randy CLEARLY knew when going into the heist what kind of shitstorm this was about to brew, in much the same way they knew how everything was going to go down when they breached GG's vault as well.
how exactly would the content would be ruined if they hid just the entry for the heist? X did look for it off stream, and regardless if he got the info on reddit or elsewhere, the point is that he confirmed the answer, right?. So now, unless DW gives the answer to everyone else or CB gives the other the answer, there is no way for other crew to progress without hate being throw at them, especially CG. And now the Cassino heist might as well be just the CB heist.
Also meta is not only being sent to them via twitch chat but ALL their other socials.
brother, XQC figured it all out OFF STREAM, so how can you say that? if you are looking at a streamers pov surely he should have done it all on stream? how would hiding your screen for an extra 30 seconds hurt anyone after doing the entire thing with eyes closed anyway?
@@Didi_Online Content wasn't ruined, and nobody I said that. I don't think Wolfabelle said that either (need to look back at the vod). But, it won't be as "hype" anymore. X had even apologized to chat for not being able to stream it when he found it. In the end, even if they just "hid the entry" for the heist, it would have been pointless because he explained it verbally to CB during the meeting at Clean Manor. Litearlly after the meeting, chat was alreadly spoiling it to Ramee by saying: 503. 503. 503. 503.
@@mulesa101 that makes no sense. It wont be "hype" because you miss 10 sec? bs. if anything them blacking out then coming to in a completely new area with nobody knowing how would be even more hype not to mention it would prevent toxicity and allow each community to get hyped as their own streamers figure it out naturally. Its literally the best scenario for every community.
@@mulesa101 I dont think you understand. I dont blame X for not streaming the answer...Do I think that founding out live would be a better option than the one that ended up happening ???? (basically him explaining step by step) hell yes! It's even better content for him if you think about it. My point is that SINCE he did found out off stream, they might as well hide the answer, not the rest of the content that comes after they enter the wall, just the entry point.
What if there was up to 3-4 different entry points into the tunnel system. Different rooms or areas in the casino
Hiding the stream is not an option. So the devs (Dean) need to come up with some way to make the heists fair for everyone whether they do it first or last. If you make it a puzzle, once the puzzle is found out, the surprise is over. The next heist should be purely skill based. No meta unlock needed, just who can complete it
I mean it is, but it's not great for content. Like Mr. K and Lang always hide their screen when they do coke runs.
@@DakotaTheRota it's kinda dumb. If you hide your screen so that others don't meta, you might as well not stream gta at all. Cops have to pretend that they don't know who is under a mask all the time, so are we gonna have to buy voice changers and cover our screens when doing heists now? Lol
@@TheDailyEgg That point is stupid. They do it so others don't even get a chance to begin to meta. If you want to protect something you'll take the very minor inconvenience of blacking out your screen. Anyone who cares about them walking through a door is probably special. If they just black out them entering 503 and the door they stop any issues on arrival. There's no chance for people to call meta and they get to keep the unlock for themselves. Also. It's an RP server. There's a lot more to the server then a heist.
@@TheDailyEgg yeah man it is so dumb, thats why im really glad the puzzle was figured out on stream so we all got see how it was figured out, doing that shit off stream with nobody watching would of just been so cringe. fuckCG bro
@@TheDailyEgg You dont understand, how little it actually interfers with the stream.
i don’t think cg purposefully meta facebook chat just says things that is meta out of nowhere i saw a clip that said where x was even tho cg and x where good at that point
Cop main mentality is just different
K is a legend
The reality is, that CG won't be able to do this heist anyway and CB will be the ones to do it. CG don't have good enough hackers to do it. Unless Dw will make it easier again, just like he did with VAR.
Well I mean we all can't have add and forget to take our Ritalin to have our mind race at 1000 fps most often have other things to do in their lives.
Her opinion isn't based on rp her opinion is based on streamer pov why would a streamer stop the content
so much content walking threw a door lol... would be the same if they just hid screen from casino to just inside the door. don't need to walk down the cave or anything just the other side of the door... streamers could even use that to hype it up more "are you ready chat! you wanna see..."
Stopping "content" for 10 seconds could've stop this whole shit show and hundreds of death threats but i guess that content was totally worth it......
@@RR-ye9tf it was :)
@@RR-ye9tf maybe tell your streamer to stop acting weird
@@RR-ye9tf it is worth it x gets death threat more than cg and guess what he avoids them cause he doesn’t want the other side to look bad
So this boils down to the reason they can't avoid meta gaming is because of toxic people in twitch chat that can't not troll or spoil or say something thinking they're helping. Honestly not showing the solution would ruin the content for the people who found it... who are the ones who deserve to reveal it because they were the first to solve it.. but because of that it's inevitable that now every other streamer has atleast a clear lead on where to go.. and cg is honestly doing well to not metagame and act like they just got a tip
Imagine thinking the riddle to how to start the heist is the content of the heist and not the actual heist itself. And lol it’s more than just twitch chat buddy it’s Twitter dms and mentions as well as other platforms as well. What a stupid take lol oh my god that’s such good content it spelled out 503 that’s worth at least 300k viewers right there
Great advice from Kebun. If only he and his friends followed it as well. Telling people not to harass others as he is mocking another streamer lmao. Pretty sure Evee got death threats last week from his community.
Kebun has good takes but he is such a hypocrite when it comes to cg. Cg is never gonna be at fault in his eye. And streamers really shouldnt have to hide their content. Imagine having to lose content because cg couldnt help but meta. He is just ignoring the whole meta part. If he is gonna being up what the girl said bring up the meta accusations
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No clues should of been given ..thats first mistake
I don't get why everything that comes against CG leads to a big drama, if someone like wolfabelle had something to say who are u to even stop her from saying it? like with wat happened with Penta and that Faze guy u gave ur take on it and no one asked u to do it. does that make u a " wiredo"?
I'd assume no one asks you to breath but you still do it, people are free to talk shit and people are free to rebut it
He explained why he spoke. 1 she hopped on the hate train. 2. she did not understand what Garrett said.
Her take was actually at reddit level "Hide the content" No hide 10 seconds that could meta guard.
@@dbcmate9968 ok but 1. he hopped on the hate train with penta drama. 2. he didnt understand wat or why penta did wat he do. so i dont see how is this differant.
@@chrisjo7318 Trying to explain to braindead cg viewers is a waste of time. CG are allowed to do something but when it's done to them they began to cry and complain.
Yeah, i went through the video thinking it was going to be way worse than what it was. In past clips I've seen about her she usually acts like that, so I don't believe she was overdramatizing for the situation, and what she said really wasn't all that bad. Was it her place? No, but it felt like K was just trying to deflect from the drama going on with his squad.
respect mr kebun so much
Maybe doing only emotes mode for the time that there is something like this going on to avoid the meta idk
If I was the server owner I would just remove the heist since people can't control themselves.
That's exactly why your not the server owner.
It's not that people can't control themselves, it's more of the way the heist was set up. If you flip the roles and CG found the answer first, then CB figure it out, people will still blame them of cheating regardless because that information is out there now. I agree with what someone else in this comment section said where Dean or whoever should give each gang unique hints, that way it kinda counteracts all this bullshit
Cg lmfao
Worst thing about nopixel are the viewers. Just shut up and watch.
I joined her stream the other day and she was basically saying CG ruin cop RP when they go on duty. She weird
She is one of those that takes the position seriously and wants to climb the ranks, the female version of Snow.
Its not hiding the content..just like coke runs
Yeah ramee said just so us but you forget he searched for 20 days
Kebun acting the way he did after she made a face kinda tells it all. Its not their responsibility to stop yall from meta
@@iamBazzy But it is easy to avoid acting on it. NoPixel is most successful when everybody is interested in helping each other create great content and enjoy themselves. There has to be a happy medium between competition and collaboration. The point isn't to win. Everybody gets pissed at cops when they play for Ws, but is that not what CG was doing all day yesterday? They were blatantly meta gaming to try to force an unlock they didn't earn. What they should have done was immediately back off, give X his moment for solving the riddle, be happy for CB to get a shot at it, and wait for the meta unlock that they will be getting in the next few days. Instead, they acted like children. It's not hard to be humble. It's not hard to be happy for your coworkers.
@@bdbaseball17 CG: im happy someone finally figured out the casino.
Chat/reddit/RUclips: Why are you not happy for your coworkers? Why you do dis? Why you do that?
Give them a break. Everything CG did that day was because of a chain of events that started with someone twatting about the casino. CB has the right to do the heist. The PD has the right to intervene. And CG has the right to act like they want, taking advantage of the situation is also RP. Not everything will go how you or your streamer wants, and that's the magic of RP.
@@virnieto That’s ridiculous. Kevin handled it well, but everybody on CG yesterday was awful. Twat or not, there is no reason for them to be camping that specific hotel room. There is no reason for them to be placing cameras conveniently at the entry to the heist. Their egos got in the way and they couldn’t take not being first so they tried to force a meta unlock. Trying to suggest otherwise is just willful ignorance.
@@bdbaseball17 tell me when they "camped" it. After they put up cameras they went to do a S+ vin scratch. And after that they went to sleep. They literally didn't even act on anything but people lose their minds, why?
@@bdbaseball17 you sound so bitter. Please just try to relax and distance yourself from this. Cuz rn you sound *invested af*
Just gonna say it all this happened bcz ramee wanted the unlock right then and there he just couldn't wait that's it if he would have waited at least 2 days it would have been a lot better
I agreed with what K said that no bodyshouldgive hate to other...but he also did the same thing......hoped on to the hate train and flamed her.
Lol what hate train? Please show me the hate train that was there on wolfabelle before he said something? Lol not the same thing bruh
It's not like she's attacking Garrett though. She didn't agree with his take so fucking what 🤣 not the first time though, randy went in on her OOC for a scuff handcuff and started liking hate tweets directed at her.
Good in Randy's case think bigger picture it's not just about her fun it should be about everyone's fun It's genuinely a good idea hide 10 20 seconds the entire fucking drama bullshit would be avoided and it shouldn't be a touchy subject why cuz ppl on wl or their streamer can't meta it good that he did she isn't thinking about the whole picture a 10 20 seconds should not ruin the heist fun when ppl are receiving death threats streamers should do it even in It's not really it's genuinely a good idea hide 10 20 seconds the entire fucking drama bullshit would be avoided and it shouldn't be a touchy subject why cuz ppl on wl or their streamer can't meta it there should be no reason why 10 20 seconds should ruin a heist fucking grow up yes sometimes viewers actions impact many streamers which will impact viewers VIEWING experience surprise pikachu face 👁️👄👁️ death threats in the RP world shouldn't be ignored there are crazy ppl and youll never know if it's fake till it's too late case think bigger picture it's not just about her fun it should be about everyone's fun
Ok I get that this is not her place to be saying this stuff but I actually agree with her......The door part was one of the best parts of the heist .....I mean it literally is the reveal to something they have been looking for a month now....And I don't think CG would ever have hidden their screens if they were first
Yeah but it wasn't like it was dumbest take ever heard. Its an option Garrett was throwing out that was clearly hypothetical that could've saved some of the meta flowing around. That's why it just came out as just obnoxious the way she reacted to it like it was the dumbest thing in the world. Either way it don't really matter server is gonna move on.
take = weird bro Kebun is on one today
Ikr but his takes are just him using common sense and it's sad how people don't even know that his takes are mostly comprised of him just using plain common sense and nothing else 😂
no joke but they will have like months to complete this Casino Heist , its worse than the VAR so good luck to everyone
All I’m gonna say is chats are always gonna pick sides Reddit will always start shit and heck even us in the RUclips comments will have an opinion but you would think the no pixel community would always have each other’s backs ooc bc they all basically co workers so it was a little weird for her to go in like that basically bashing a co worker. An I watch wolfabelle from time to time her cop character is always entertaining and funny but she needs to do better ooc. Don’t feed into hate chat
Meta AKA TWITCH CHAT, disable twitch chat, problem solved.
Is she in a gang besides PD? what is she involved for at all?!
nothing, just crashes her PD bike given to her just for the sake of it and thats it. she got a crim character called bianca who barely comes around and when she does during the early hours she hangs around the 2-3 mandem who come on the server early.
@@aashmandulloo Both of her characters have no storyline besides "I came from the UK for a better life" no backstory whatsoever.
Its like she doesnt notice all the people involved usually have chats that are FULL and people like to spoil stuff for the luls
The amount of cb/gg fans in comment and the shit talk and gate keeping is in another f level.
Mr K and Mr Lang both have whole bunch of shit to look forward to on their days off , i swear
I mean. Harassment is always bad and nothing excuses it. That being said, about the rest of the take, hiding the entrance is silly, on the matter of a Streamer perspective, showing that you figured out and showing your audience THE entrance for the Heist, naturally sparks a lot of views. Second, Heists became a thing because Streamers and Audience made it so. The "progression" and the "race for first" became a HUGE thing and that's what most audience ended up caring about everytime with a new heist. People want to see the race, people want to see who gets in first. If you meta, well... People will think you're disingenuous about your 'victory'. It's cheating. People will hop on angry accusations against cheaters, it's how it works.
Streamers hide their screens for so many diff games to stop from things like stream sniping or in RP its been done a lot. Shit in 2.0 Mehdi, Curtis, and Shotz used to have to hide their screens for 5 mins every time they went to pick up weapons from their crafting spot. 20 secs of that is not the fucking end of the world. You tell your audience you are hiding the entrance but you get to see the heist......Simple....like your brain if you think hiding your screen for 20 secs causes any issues.
@@konqu3rthe1st80 Buddy. That was in 2.0, with people already experienced in GTA RP. Not people with 40-100k viewers that want to show off their results, and knowing that showing off the entrance, just grant that "Said Gang did first!" because of how 'competitive' the progression became. Different times, different scenarios. Doesn't work fully the same.
There is sooooo much more to figure out for this heist than just the hidden door. Honestly just leave the group that discovered it first alone for 1-2 days, other groups will get the meta unlock for the door one way or another and then they can still figure out all of the rest of the heist for themselves. K is right, "no rush, everyone chill the fuck out".
Why are people acting like you need to be involved in a situation to know how to meta or not whether they hide the screen or not why would it matter anyways? Are other streamers watching? How hard is it to use common sense that hey maybe I shouldn’t watch a streamer do what I’m trying to figure out
Bad take. Don't even comment. It just takes one viewer to say "Entrance is room 503" and you're fucked. If they hid the 10 seconds of them going into the room then nobody would've been accused of meta.