In Australia, in an area with many Palestinians, the Mayor has raised the Palestinian flag to acknowledge their suffering and provide a symbol for them to mourn. I’m horrified that UK, France are making any acknowledge of the Palestinian suffering illegal. In what kind of an effing world are we living
We have neighbourhoods with many Arabs and Palestinians. If you are gay, Jew or a non Arab you do not enter. They are a bunch of criminals and drug dealers
I'm British living in England and I've been acknowledging, (since 1983), the suffering Palestinian people have undergone for 75 years and the part both America and mostly Britain have played and are still playing in it. America and Britain for example veto any censure the UN wishes to place on Israel for their acts of war against humanity. I even talk to American Israeli supporters asking them why they support Israel after what Israel did to USS Liberty in 1967. none of them know about the USS Liberty incident, so I tell them about it and then ask them to research it. Without exception everyone renounces their support of Israel.
Sounds like pakman is pretty petty. And I trust aljazeera over blinken. They actually have reporters in palestine, not people reporting from tel aviv repeating IDF talking points
Trust Al Jazeera? If you do, you need to do more research on the topic. Trusting an Iranian backed news source is like Biden saying he doesn't trust numbers from terrorists. Which one shouldn't. And if one does, atleast be clear whenever you speak, what side you are on. I am almost 10 mins into this and have no idea which side they are on...🤔
What genocide? So silly. Why would isreal want civilians to leave? Why would they have warnings? The death toll would be in the hundred of thousands or millions if they wanted to genocide. You people are unhinged.
I didn’t understand Matt’s comment…until I was able to piece together information that Michael Brooks must have worked with David Pakman’s show at some point!
Ignoring it? They have actively cheerleaded this shit for decades. There is nothing the Israelis have said that the BBC wasn't ecstatic to broadcast about any ethnic group in any colonised country. Even in the past few years the BBC was so desperate to get some nationalism going after Brexit they were here filming in Ireland waiting for *US* to embark on a campaign of violence while avoiding any instance of Unionist/Loyalist rioting until they were forced to report on it by people putting up video online.
“The worst atrocities since world war 2” anyone remember when Israel sold weapons to the Hutus while they were committing genocide against the Tutsis? The western world has no historical memory.
I’m ashamed that I didn’t see Pakman as a propaganda source for Democrats rather than a progressive news source until his takes on Palestine. It did switch me to you guys which is a positive 😅
It’s not a crime to be deceived. Pakman will periodically make it more obvious what he’s really about, then go back to criticizing Republicans and making it difficult to see him for who he really is.
In 1989, I asked a liberal political candidate a question... *Are Palestinians human?* He tap-danced around for 30 seconds, and asked for more questions. In 1995, I asked a conservative candidate *Are Palestinian human?* He called them "mad dogs", and called for them to be "put down". I have never found a political candidate who could say "yes" to my question.
Got to love a Christian snowflake who thinks he is so unique that hamas whose stated goal is to wipe every 'non-beliver' off the face of earth would let them go unscathed...
Mainstream liberals are as bad as conservatives on Palestine. We should never forget that. By all means, vote for liberals if you live in a swing state, but never forget where they stand when it comes to Palestinians' basic human rights.
I never watched him much, but I respected David Pakman for being level headed and mostly left-leaning. I didn't agree with everything he said, but I felt he had an overall good message. Very disappointed to hear Binder's story, and more importantly, the takes David has on the Israel/Palestine situation.
@@vossmediaproDude, while your question is pointing towards a real problem, that does not excuse you on answering the question of "what is it you're being censored on?" There is criticism of Israel and it's lobby and antisemitism. If you're not antisemitic and can't criticise Israel freely, that's censorship. A response to blatant antisemitism is not criticism. It's valid.
It's so refreshing to see leftist content creators uniting on this issue. Yes, we have our disagreements, sometimes quite important ones, but there are times to come together, and this is one of them.
Lol did you just imply that Dan Parkman is a lefty? Speaking of disagreeing lolz. That boy is a LIB haha. Oct 7 was a real libbed out day for the libs it has to be said.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 No, I don't regard Pakman as a lefty. As my original comment indicates, I'm talking about those who are united in support of Palestine. Pakman obviously isn't part of that group.
This isn't even a right wing thing. I have met many many Israelis traveling through India, Nepal and South East Asia. They all come there after completing their service and spend months traveling. I have had long chats with them, and I dont think I have ever heard a young Israeli say the word "Palestinian" without following it with the word "Terrorist". It just rolls off their tongue. They are already dehumanised in their eyes.And I am talking about 15 years ago. Those peace-niks who are pro Palestine are mostly older and are very few. So now they just want blood.
Palestinians support terror 10to1 . They seek the liberation of Palestinian lands they mean all of It. Not just gaza and the west bank. They seek to push all the jews out. Which part of this is acceptable to you?
Emma makes a great point and I had the same idea; This situation isn't about which side you are on it's about making objectively the right decisions! Violence can only make things worse!
I want all of you on MR to know how much I appreciate your videos on the Hamas-Israel horror show and you're standing up for Palestinians. MR and the Humanist Report are some.of the few channels trying to give the whole picture of what's going on. The rest of the news, including many liberal ones, coverage breaks my heart and infuriates me.
I've watched David for years, but his straw-manning and indifference to the abject horror unfolding made my blood run cold. Glad MR talked about this. I can't watch David in good conscience anymore. Best of luck to him, I guess?
Packman had a horrible take on BLM as well some time ago that made me give up being a subscriber to his show. I think you guys are right, Packman has chosen to be a Center-Left Democrat. Plus, I think that he's having a "Rachel Maddow moment" and has sort of let the fame of his show go to his head. Wouldn't surprise me if he makes a harder Right turn to make that Right-wing money in the future ... he's already courting Right-wingers on his show now.
Packman is also pretty awful when talking about the Latin American Left. He is indistinguishable from your run of the mill upper class right winger from the region, not strange since he is Argentinian.
Pretty sure packman was the one RUclips rec'd to me, and after sitting through a whole show without much objection, the last ten minutes was an interview with a right-wing politician who was just spewing disinformation about trans people while the host nodded along with barely any pushback. It's so tiring not being able to watch any new creators without the heavy risk of them turning out to be in favor of discriminating against you 😮💨
I'm shocked that Sky News clip ended when it did, without any pushback on what that Israeli guy said. Is this where we're at now, conflating Palestinians and terrorists?
Yep, the same way we did with Muslims/Islam and terrorists/terrorism during the War on Terror and the Gulf Wars ... Hell, they do a similar thing with the way they treat Black people whenever they talk about poverty, crime, and drug use. These concepts have been so deeply ingrained in the news and exported all over the world in movies, music, and TV shows that I think it can never be completely changed or even stopped.
That bit about being in the post Iraq war time period is so true. I was 15 when we went to Iraq & I raged about it then, plenty of people - even kids like me - were very much against those wars & mad about the civilians being killed for crimes they didn’t commit. The difference isn’t that we didn’t care, the difference is that we were posting to our MySpaces & livejournals or just talking to each other. The Iraq war predates twitter by 6 years, ffs. The internet as we know it is much newer than people make it seem. If anything, I’m MORE rabidly against these wars in the Middle East as I’ve grown and learned more and more about conflict and foreign meddling in the region. Look at what we (the US) did to Iran! What we (the west) have done & continue to do to Palestinians. The absolute insanity to pretend like we only care now that it’s Israel doing the war crimes is off the charts.
Russia is the occupying force in Ukraine. Israel is the occupying force in Gaza. Hamas does not represent most Palestinian people just like Al Qaeda did not represent most Afghan people. Al Qaeda were not confined to a small space in Afghanistan (or Saudi Arabia). The fact that they travelled to the USA to do their 9/11 terrorism proves that.
Dunno. My grandfather was an RAF pilot in WW2, he flew bombers over Germany where cities were devastated and both militants and civilians died - it's awful, but he was recognised as a hero because the enemy were Nazis/Germans. i have thought about him a lot these days.
I'm sure you're aware however that many now believe that those strategic bombing campaigns on German cities were both morally indefensible and not even very effective in terms of helping win the war. I'm not questioning that the pilots were heros, not at all-only that some of the decisions taken by those in charge were wrong. It comes back to what Brandon mentions in this video-just because such actions (such as collective punishment) were committed in the past, that's not a great justification for doing it now. I should also point out that the contexts are extremely different. One significant difference I see is that there was little chance of Britain wiping Germans off the face of the earth, while it's possible Israel could do that with Palestinians.
James O'Brien asked what I believe is the most insightful question about the present situation in Gaza: "If HAMAS had infiltrated Israel and was hiding among Israeli civilians, would you support the same tactics being used by the Israel military?" His question brought all the back-slapping right-wing government supporters to silence.
Zionista David pakman reminds me of the good white people from the 1980s that had no problems with apartheid south Africa and considered Mandela to be a terrorist.
Or the "good White people" who lived on the East coast and only knew what was happening in Indian territories from the newspapers that often hid the truth of what the White settlers were doing ... like stealing Indian land, and water.
apartheid : a policy or system of segregation or discrimination on grounds of race. Israel is, by definition, an apartheid state. The West clearly has a blind spot when it comes to Israel/Palestine.
A few years ago I watched Pakman as I was getting into my political awakening and trying to find other channels besides TYT for a different perspective and I thought he was ok but as time went on I just saw him on the wrong side of certain issues imo. Endorsing NFTs was the nail in the coffin for me really. Like I appreciate the perspective on civil rights and being against fascism in the US but part of it feels so disingenuous and cold looking back
Yeah, he can't help himself. Remember the "there's no coup in Bolivia" nonsense? That was the point I knew for sure he was a grifter and dropped him right there, should have realized sooner. His progressivism plays just for the American audience and consist on giving Americans healthcare and that's about it. Outside of this he deeply dislikes any and all actual Left liberation movements in the Global South.
Nah, as bad as Pakman is, he has always worn his opinions on his sleeve and is clearly intelligent and well educated. Rubin is an uneducated and unintelligent grifter. That they have the same take on Israel is coincidental.
I've never been quite sure what, but something always put me off David and made me want to avoid his show, aside from him being more of a liberal than a leftist, but I also never watched him more than occasionally and dropped him entirely a couple of years ago.
Someone recently said to me that when a person (like Pakman) has a mix of good and bad positions, it's worth questioning how they arrived at the good positions, because sound reasoning wouldn't lead them to both good and bad positions, so the entire foundation of his ideology should be considered.
Having good and bad takes is like having/making good and bad decisions. It makes us human to be wrong sometimes, but we should always question bad takes and bad decisions that cynically contradict one's philosophy.
We could also replace Jews with Native Americans and the Holocaust with all of the countless killed during the American expansions westward into "Indian territories"
I was really disappointed by David and his takes on Israel. He's normally very nuanced. Today he had a sponsor with a scam bidding site and I unsubscribed.
This wasn’t in a vacuum. He’s very consistently an apologist for literally any and everything Israel does, and his takes on Latin America consistently serve as apologia for any and all dirty tactics, including violent ones, to suppress political leaders in the region that are marginally to his left.
Please don't generalize about boomers (I'm 62). There are plenty of us who stand with the Palestinians and recognize this genocide for what it is. In fact, I've lost a lot of empathy and compassion for the Jews. Because of their ability to treat people and demonize innocent civilians this way, I assume they learned and/or remember very little from the Holocaust. If they'd learned something they'd be the last people to commit such atrocities against others. I know the Israeli government is the culprit with geopolitical motivations but the citizens are complicit if they allow and support what is going on.
I’ll keep watching too but I have to say I’m finding g-e-no-c-ide to be my red line tho 😔 his complete lack of empathy over the situation has been truly striking
Thank you guys. I’ve been really disappointed with Pakman since this started. I don’t know how a true leftist an ignore what’s happening to Palestinians
Humans are tribal. Pakman is Jewish. I'm disappointed too, but I understand that it would be difficult for me to accept the undoing of the USA's genocidal ethnic cleansing of our natives. We aren't perfect. (Including me, which I will prove by never watching the PacBigot again.)
@@RichardLewisCaldwellBeing Jewish is not relevant here. Pakman is closing his eyes and listens to IDF and facist ideologes like Netanjahu, that's the issue.
When its 7000 innocents for 13 Hamas deaths the world can't not see it. If there is 50'000 hamas( which i woukd guess is a low figure) and it takes 7000 for 13, im not sure the math but it can't be ignored. The amount of people playing dumb and simping to Isreal is getting sickening. Pakman didnt even talk about 10/7 until the Tuesday or Wednesday after. And then when he did cover it he obviously had picked a team, he is jewish, so im not suprised. I do watch him, but i watch all sides, all views, it seems any intellectual adult agree's war is bad. Peace
That's a bad argument about why Pakman chose his side. There is no reason why Jews "should" choose the Israeli side. Plenty of Jewish people support the Palestinian people in their moment of need and suffering. I think anyone who backs what Israel is doing is either ignorant or despicable.
@razorednight so he is ignorant and despicable. I know there is a large movement of jews calling for ceasefire, but many are going to support Isreal. The censorship and propaganda is getting pretty bad, on both sides. It needs to stop, but it won't
10/7 was a Saturday. Pakman doesn't do shows on weekends. And by the time the individual clips get uploaded, they are far from breaking news even during the week. And he has not picked a side. His first video on these specific attacks was full of outrage at people in the US (myopic BLM, tankie DSA) and Australia explicitly cheering Hamas for having fought back by slaughtering Israeli civilians who "had it coming". All other videos of his about the conflict in the decades before and the weeks since have been condemning atrocities against civilians on both sides.
@twincast2005 have you heard him say ceasefire. Sometimes, not saying something speaks volumes. Maybe he has called for a ceasefire, i dont watch everything the man puts out. I feel he picked a side after the hospital attack. The day after it when IDF said " it wasn't us, we wont show proof, but trust us" He said must be the truth, Isreal said so. then the proof was suspect at best. 60 different medical facilities have been bombed and we dont hear anything about it. 2 different U.S newspapers came to 2 polar opposite conclusions using the same evidence, on the hospital bombing and it doesnt matter cause Palestinians getting killed doesn't count. Your upset with my Pakman take and totally glossed over 7000+ innocent people mostly children, who have been killed to get 13 hamas terrorists. That ok with you? And for the record the terrorist attack on 10/7 was disgusting and inhumane and the culprits need to be brought to justice. But this is just genocide, its bad if Russia does it ok if our buddies do it. Nothing new really. Now they have cut all internet along with no water, no power, no food, no where to go. You do you
War is peace. Slavery is freedom. Ignorance is strength 2 + 2 = 5 Genocide is real. Big Brother is blind leader Big Brother is deaf leader Big Brother is mute leader.
This has been going on for over 100 yrs. Britain forcefully started this and made dam sure it continued. Its a bit difficult to find YT evidence from that time, but plenty of writings and written history. Please, no more killings.
Just like Republicans did with the Game of Thrones and Thanos references they were using when it came to Trump. Jordan Peterson is doing the same thing with his obsession for using the Joker as his "spirit animus"
He''s not the only one and by no means the most egregious. I keep finding more and more normal sane and reliable centrist sources identifying any criticism as "Hamas fans" -- and staying away from them. fwiw "bombing into the stone age" is so Vietnam.
Lucikily im in Australia, and not in a city either. We dont see religeous anything, just land stealing. To achieve same indigenous peoples treated in this undesirable way til death, and their lands built on. Like here .
Guys, great work. I just wanted to ask your opinion about some chatter I heard . I live in the middleast and am heartbtoken by all the deaths in Gaza. The deaths in Israel are also an atrocity of course but in Gaza its a genocide. Anyways, I wanted to know if you heard anything about the ground invasion being supported by Delta force with the use of nerve gas into the tunnels. That would be the beginning of WW3. I am very worried.
@@DrinkingyoursaltytearsallahHow is killing innocent people “western morals”? I mean, it’s obviously American morals because they are notorious for killing innocent civilians, but the West isn’t only the US.
I actually saw alot of Packman's stuff. Its kinda sad that he is holding that line. Tyler Cohen also kinda been holding that same line. I imagine cuz they are jewish its harder for them to understand the other side of this unfortunately.
I used to have a feeling that pakman's refusal to acknowledge the 75 year oppression was mostly about his family relations + ignorance of palestinian history, which I think is understandable. but no excuse works after israel is carpet bombing civilians while calling them animals. even if he knew NOTHING about palestine before the hamas strike, no one can claim that innocence after seeing the continuing war crimes. if this didn't flip him, he must've known the truth all along and simply agreed with the genocide.
It's not fair to blame being Jewish as the reason why Pakman has this awful take on Gaza. There is no reason why Jews should support what Israel is doing right now. Pakman's bad take is entirely down to his personality, not his religion.
@@rileyfuckingrifle friend. I clearly dont know what packman is thinking, but for political commentators u know that among jewish people who are in politics/political commentary Sam is the exception not the rule. I wish i was different, its just where we are
I’m here from tonight’s episode of the Leftist Mafia (May 16, 2024), after finding out that the Majority Report has criticized David Pakman’s “coverage” of Gaza.
@@techsupport891 that it is discriminate. Learn how words work. What do you think warning sirens are used for? Or knock bombs? To get out civilians. If isreal wanted to genocide Palestinians. They could. What are you talking about.
I am sure you guys have seen a drop in the numbers, but I wanted to mention NONE of your videos that mention P@lestine, G@za, or Isr@el do NOT show up in the default feed. I honestly thought you guys weren't covering it, until i searched for your page, and I'm subscribed! :(
So since the IDF is mandatory to join for regular service and everyone between 18 and 40 is a reservist, doesnt that make essentially all Israelis (except those exempt) essentially current or former military personnel who have slaughtered their people? Its a bit different that Gaza where the vast majority of citizens have never picked up arms. Does that potentially change the way Palestinians view Israelies especially Jewish Israelies? They see them as combatants on leave not civilians.
I’m not sure I agree with Brandon’s take that those that voted for Biden are complicit in this. Should the current system we have be damned for allowing this to go on? Absolutely. But choosing to vote for the lesser of two evils in a system where there are literally only those two choices does not make one complicit in it. The system is fucked. Not the people who voted for Biden in the general. Maybe those who voted for Biden in the primary
Wait, Binder a couple of days after brooks dies talks about how Brooks didn't really fit with Pakman and really is on Binder side, and he doesn't understand how insensitive that would come off? Lmao yeah right
yeahh like i said on another vid where packman was mentioned, i stopped watching him after he defended the bolivian coup, that was my last straw. ESPECIALLY since he comes from south america (argentina iirc) like cmon man
As a spokesperson for the Office of the Iranian Ayatollah, i am wondering if there's a way that i can sponsor this channel? Its goals are very closely aligned with mine
Pakman having videos on critical thinking is now even more ironic considering he seems to have stopped using it himself. Was a subscriber of his until it became clear he has no desire to understand trans people's struggles and is extremely biased when it comes to Israel and Palestine.
What is strange is i think covid is the reason we have to thabk for people paying attention more. Some people moved away from politics and the like but many dived right in. So people who had their eyes and ears closed in previous years are now open to hearing the news regardless.
I'm glad I didn't watch Pakman much: after I heard his brutal pro-South American coup take(s), I knew that I shouldn't trust him as a source of any information. Because who knows what other issues his family background compels him to have sociopathic opinions on, as well.
In Australia, in an area with many Palestinians, the Mayor has raised the Palestinian flag to acknowledge their suffering and provide a symbol for them to mourn.
I’m horrified that UK, France are making any acknowledge of the Palestinian suffering illegal. In what kind of an effing world are we living
Did he raise the Israeli flag after Oct 7th
@@elvangulley3210Spotted the IDF-Fool.
@@elvangulley3210
Nah, they don’t put up flags of terrorists.
We have neighbourhoods with many Arabs and Palestinians. If you are gay, Jew or a non Arab you do not enter. They are a bunch of criminals and drug dealers
I'm British living in England and I've been acknowledging, (since 1983), the suffering Palestinian people have undergone for 75 years and the part both America and mostly Britain have played and are still playing in it. America and Britain for example veto any censure the UN wishes to place on Israel for their acts of war against humanity. I even talk to American Israeli supporters asking them why they support Israel after what Israel did to USS Liberty in 1967. none of them know about the USS Liberty incident, so I tell them about it and then ask them to research it. Without exception everyone renounces their support of Israel.
I respect the hell out of you guys for the way you're covering this issue. It's impossible not to get choked up.
Sounds like pakman is pretty petty. And I trust aljazeera over blinken. They actually have reporters in palestine, not people reporting from tel aviv repeating IDF talking points
You trust a Muslim new channel to be fair how foolish
I used to really like Pakman. I'm sad to see these are his true colors.
@@JaceFinchamHe's always been like this when it comes to Israel. 😢
@@JaceFinchamPakman was always more Biden than Bernie
Trust Al Jazeera? If you do, you need to do more research on the topic. Trusting an Iranian backed news source is like Biden saying he doesn't trust numbers from terrorists. Which one shouldn't. And if one does, atleast be clear whenever you speak, what side you are on.
I am almost 10 mins into this and have no idea which side they are on...🤔
How can anyone side with genocide and think they're in the right?
Easy to do when you don't think the people being genocided as human
Isreal is in the right you must want Isreal to do nothing as hamas rapes kills and kidnaps their people
What genocide? So silly. Why would isreal want civilians to leave? Why would they have warnings? The death toll would be in the hundred of thousands or millions if they wanted to genocide. You people are unhinged.
It's just not.
@Im_Ain_Ani_Li_Mi_Li if it's not genocide, it's at least ethnic cleansing. But there a fine line between those things
If Pakman was offended by what Matt Binder said, then shouldn’t he be upset with himself for making it true?
Exactly
I didn’t understand Matt’s comment…until I was able to piece together information that Michael Brooks must have worked with David Pakman’s show at some point!
Wow, he said the quiet part out loud! As right wing Israelis have been saying all these years.
Yet Western media has largely been ignoring this.
Ignoring it? They have actively cheerleaded this shit for decades. There is nothing the Israelis have said that the BBC wasn't ecstatic to broadcast about any ethnic group in any colonised country. Even in the past few years the BBC was so desperate to get some nationalism going after Brexit they were here filming in Ireland waiting for *US* to embark on a campaign of violence while avoiding any instance of Unionist/Loyalist rioting until they were forced to report on it by people putting up video online.
Not surprising about Pakman. Can't say I've ever regretted dropping him years ago.
“The worst atrocities since world war 2” anyone remember when Israel sold weapons to the Hutus while they were committing genocide against the Tutsis? The western world has no historical memory.
They also supported apartheid South Africa!
So true ... history/the past only exists in old dusty books to so many these days.
I guess they will start banning history books next
Yup!!
I’m ashamed that I didn’t see Pakman as a propaganda source for Democrats rather than a progressive news source until his takes on Palestine. It did switch me to you guys which is a positive 😅
It’s not a crime to be deceived. Pakman will periodically make it more obvious what he’s really about, then go back to criticizing Republicans and making it difficult to see him for who he really is.
no way someone disagreed with you , on one point!
that is outrageous
@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnewsit's a pretty serious point, but it's clear you don't care about Palestinians
@@Ahov yeah, I like to surround myself with only people that think 100% like me otherwise I shame them
Well He's Argentinian...
The nzi capital of South America
In 1989, I asked a liberal political candidate a question...
*Are Palestinians human?*
He tap-danced around for 30 seconds, and asked for more questions.
In 1995, I asked a conservative candidate
*Are Palestinian human?*
He called them "mad dogs", and called for them to be "put down".
I have never found a political candidate who could say "yes" to my question.
Because you only asked two of them
Palestinians are human.
Got to love a Christian snowflake who thinks he is so unique that hamas whose stated goal is to wipe every 'non-beliver' off the face of earth would let them go unscathed...
Mainstream liberals are as bad as conservatives on Palestine. We should never forget that. By all means, vote for liberals if you live in a swing state, but never forget where they stand when it comes to Palestinians' basic human rights.
@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews two examples of politicians' answers.
Nice try, typical fail.
PS: Learn grammatically correct English.
I never watched him much, but I respected David Pakman for being level headed and mostly left-leaning. I didn't agree with everything he said, but I felt he had an overall good message.
Very disappointed to hear Binder's story, and more importantly, the takes David has on the Israel/Palestine situation.
It's not surprising at all. He's always given me the ick.
@@goodbher9244 Glad that worked out this time, but I try to go off more than vibes lol
The old dirty laundry was disappointing to hear, but his "takes on the Israel/Palestine situation" are being appallingly misrepresented.
It’s appalling that students (like at Harvard and elsewhere) are being punished for having an opinion.
@@vossmediaprolol go on, tell us exactly what you said that got you 'censored'
@@vossmediapro nah I'd much rather hear it from you. Go on, tell us
@@vossmediaproDude, while your question is pointing towards a real problem, that does not excuse you on answering the question of "what is it you're being censored on?"
There is criticism of Israel and it's lobby and antisemitism.
If you're not antisemitic and can't criticise Israel freely, that's censorship. A response to blatant antisemitism is not criticism. It's valid.
Yeah, like questions about the 2020 election.
Unfortunately Harvard is an institution chalk full of Jeffery Epstein’s pals,.
Thank you guys standing up humanity. Thank you reporting the truth.
It's so refreshing to see leftist content creators uniting on this issue. Yes, we have our disagreements, sometimes quite important ones, but there are times to come together, and this is one of them.
Everyone who's capable of looking at facts is heartbroken for Palestinians, and standing with Palestine.
Lol did you just imply that Dan Parkman is a lefty? Speaking of disagreeing lolz. That boy is a LIB haha. Oct 7 was a real libbed out day for the libs it has to be said.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 No, I don't regard Pakman as a lefty. As my original comment indicates, I'm talking about those who are united in support of Palestine. Pakman obviously isn't part of that group.
If you stand with Israel, right now, while they're slaughtering Innocent children you're a monster.
@@MetatronLux-pk6jo Who are "we"?
This isn't even a right wing thing. I have met many many Israelis traveling through India, Nepal and South East Asia. They all come there after completing their service and spend months traveling. I have had long chats with them, and I dont think I have ever heard a young Israeli say the word "Palestinian" without following it with the word "Terrorist". It just rolls off their tongue. They are already dehumanised in their eyes.And I am talking about 15 years ago. Those peace-niks who are pro Palestine are mostly older and are very few. So now they just want blood.
Palestinians support terror 10to1 . They seek the liberation of Palestinian lands they mean all of It. Not just gaza and the west bank. They seek to push all the jews out. Which part of this is acceptable to you?
Emma makes a great point and I had the same idea; This situation isn't about which side you are on it's about making objectively the right decisions! Violence can only make things worse!
Uh huh unless you were the one kidnapped then you’d want violence if that was your only way out
@@L0kias1 well, it's a complicated situation. I feel that what they want is to be liberated and a nonviolent solution seems the most safe.
I want all of you on MR to know how much I appreciate your videos on the Hamas-Israel horror show and you're standing up for Palestinians. MR and the Humanist Report are some.of the few channels trying to give the whole picture of what's going on. The rest of the news, including many liberal ones, coverage breaks my heart and infuriates me.
1000%
Rational National, TYT, Secular Talk, Al Jazeera ...
@GottaWannaDance I added some of those,. Hadn't heard of the first one but will look it up! Thanks!
My respect to those that stand up for whats right in the face of hardship for doing so
I've watched David for years, but his straw-manning and indifference to the abject horror unfolding made my blood run cold. Glad MR talked about this. I can't watch David in good conscience anymore. Best of luck to him, I guess?
He also had a bad take on BLM in the past. That made me give up being a subscriber to his channel.
He has a lot of bad takes, he gave me the ick years ago.
Same with me. I can’t forgive him for ignoring the apartheid state of Israel
@@1MarkKellersame!
Pakman is a very Jewy Jew.
Packman had a horrible take on BLM as well some time ago that made me give up being a subscriber to his show. I think you guys are right, Packman has chosen to be a Center-Left Democrat.
Plus, I think that he's having a "Rachel Maddow moment" and has sort of let the fame of his show go to his head. Wouldn't surprise me if he makes a harder Right turn to make that Right-wing money in the future ... he's already courting Right-wingers on his show now.
Packman is also pretty awful when talking about the Latin American Left. He is indistinguishable from your run of the mill upper class right winger from the region, not strange since he is Argentinian.
Pretty sure packman was the one RUclips rec'd to me, and after sitting through a whole show without much objection, the last ten minutes was an interview with a right-wing politician who was just spewing disinformation about trans people while the host nodded along with barely any pushback. It's so tiring not being able to watch any new creators without the heavy risk of them turning out to be in favor of discriminating against you 😮💨
Left in America ... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ... as if that exists.
He does a video mocking Trump every single day lmao, totally "courting the right wing".
@@thehellyousaystill much farther left, than Europe lol.
That guy said these are the worst atrocities in the last century??! Is he serious?!
I'm shocked that Sky News clip ended when it did, without any pushback on what that Israeli guy said. Is this where we're at now, conflating Palestinians and terrorists?
Yep, the same way we did with Muslims/Islam and terrorists/terrorism during the War on Terror and the Gulf Wars ... Hell, they do a similar thing with the way they treat Black people whenever they talk about poverty, crime, and drug use.
These concepts have been so deeply ingrained in the news and exported all over the world in movies, music, and TV shows that I think it can never be completely changed or even stopped.
That bit about being in the post Iraq war time period is so true. I was 15 when we went to Iraq & I raged about it then, plenty of people - even kids like me - were very much against those wars & mad about the civilians being killed for crimes they didn’t commit. The difference isn’t that we didn’t care, the difference is that we were posting to our MySpaces & livejournals or just talking to each other. The Iraq war predates twitter by 6 years, ffs. The internet as we know it is much newer than people make it seem. If anything, I’m MORE rabidly against these wars in the Middle East as I’ve grown and learned more and more about conflict and foreign meddling in the region. Look at what we (the US) did to Iran! What we (the west) have done & continue to do to Palestinians. The absolute insanity to pretend like we only care now that it’s Israel doing the war crimes is off the charts.
Russia is the occupying force in Ukraine. Israel is the occupying force in Gaza. Hamas does not represent most Palestinian people just like Al Qaeda did not represent most Afghan people. Al Qaeda were not confined to a small space in Afghanistan (or Saudi Arabia). The fact that they travelled to the USA to do their 9/11 terrorism proves that.
Hamas was created by the Mosad just like Al Qaeda was created by the CIA. And pretty much for the same reason.
Also like Al Qada, Hamas was funded by the same people trying to eradicate then
Humans use "animal" as an insult.
Here in the forest, "hooman" is the insult.
I had to unsubscribe to d-pak. He was using right wing nonsense arguments and denying the genocide and the apartheid
l watch Aljazeera , Sky News , BBC and CNN in Sweden to try to understand some reason for the Gaza bombing 😥
Mehdi Hassan and Joy Reid on MSNBC are also a good source 👍
David Pakman was one of my faves. What a shame.
Been feeling like unsubscribing from DP for a while now, his take on this Isreal subject was that straw, eff that dude
Dunno. My grandfather was an RAF pilot in WW2, he flew bombers over Germany where cities were devastated and both militants and civilians died - it's awful, but he was recognised as a hero because the enemy were Nazis/Germans. i have thought about him a lot these days.
I'm sure you're aware however that many now believe that those strategic bombing campaigns on German cities were both morally indefensible and not even very effective in terms of helping win the war. I'm not questioning that the pilots were heros, not at all-only that some of the decisions taken by those in charge were wrong. It comes back to what Brandon mentions in this video-just because such actions (such as collective punishment) were committed in the past, that's not a great justification for doing it now.
I should also point out that the contexts are extremely different. One significant difference I see is that there was little chance of Britain wiping Germans off the face of the earth, while it's possible Israel could do that with Palestinians.
James O'Brien asked what I believe is the most insightful question about the present situation in Gaza: "If HAMAS had infiltrated Israel and was hiding among Israeli civilians, would you support the same tactics being used by the Israel military?" His question brought all the back-slapping right-wing government supporters to silence.
Zionista David pakman reminds me of the good white people from the 1980s that had no problems with apartheid south Africa and considered Mandela to be a terrorist.
Or the "good White people" who lived on the East coast and only knew what was happening in Indian territories from the newspapers that often hid the truth of what the White settlers were doing ... like stealing Indian land, and water.
He is very similar to them indeed
Accurate
beware the liberals
Completely!!💯💯💯
The hatred in the world makes my heart ache 😭😭😭. May truth and justice overcome all the evil in the world.
Thank you for calling david pakman out. People on the left need to be called out too if they showcase that their values are not consistent.
apartheid : a policy or system of segregation or discrimination on grounds of race.
Israel is, by definition, an apartheid state. The West clearly has a blind spot when it comes to Israel/Palestine.
Where is the video of the David Pakman arguement on patreon? I cant find it. Do i have to watch the long videos to find it?
Thank you guys for being honest, at least show other side of this criminal Israel, and show their atrocities every voice counts
They are innocent Palestine is criminal terrorists
this is the venting i need during these times, thanks for echoing my thoughts
A few years ago I watched Pakman as I was getting into my political awakening and trying to find other channels besides TYT for a different perspective and I thought he was ok but as time went on I just saw him on the wrong side of certain issues imo. Endorsing NFTs was the nail in the coffin for me really. Like I appreciate the perspective on civil rights and being against fascism in the US but part of it feels so disingenuous and cold looking back
Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein and many other scholars can join the list of people who understand the Israeli apartheid system.
Pakman can usually hide his gusano side a little better but whenever push comes to shove it really rears its ugly head, doesn't it?
libz lol. That dan parkman is nothing more.
Yeah, he can't help himself. Remember the "there's no coup in Bolivia" nonsense? That was the point I knew for sure he was a grifter and dropped him right there, should have realized sooner. His progressivism plays just for the American audience and consist on giving Americans healthcare and that's about it. Outside of this he deeply dislikes any and all actual Left liberation movements in the Global South.
I’m seriously hoping that the David Pakman we see now is really Dave Rubin with a mask from “Mission Impossible” disguised as Pak
Nah, as bad as Pakman is, he has always worn his opinions on his sleeve and is clearly intelligent and well educated. Rubin is an uneducated and unintelligent grifter. That they have the same take on Israel is coincidental.
I've never been quite sure what, but something always put me off David and made me want to avoid his show, aside from him being more of a liberal than a leftist, but I also never watched him more than occasionally and dropped him entirely a couple of years ago.
yeah I also always thought there was something off with pakman but couldn't figure out what.
For me it's when I learned yea s ago that he was from Argentina and Jewish??? Project paperclip looking azz
insincere and cares more about institutional recognition than real journalism
Someone recently said to me that when a person (like Pakman) has a mix of good and bad positions, it's worth questioning how they arrived at the good positions, because sound reasoning wouldn't lead them to both good and bad positions, so the entire foundation of his ideology should be considered.
Having good and bad takes is like having/making good and bad decisions. It makes us human to be wrong sometimes, but we should always question bad takes and bad decisions that cynically contradict one's philosophy.
Replace "Jews" with "Germans" and "Holocaust" with "Treaty of Versailles" and he was basically quoting Hitler or Goebbles.
We could also replace Jews with Native Americans and the Holocaust with all of the countless killed during the American expansions westward into "Indian territories"
I was really disappointed by David and his takes on Israel. He's normally very nuanced. Today he had a sponsor with a scam bidding site and I unsubscribed.
This wasn’t in a vacuum. He’s very consistently an apologist for literally any and everything Israel does, and his takes on Latin America consistently serve as apologia for any and all dirty tactics, including violent ones, to suppress political leaders in the region that are marginally to his left.
Please don't generalize about boomers (I'm 62). There are plenty of us who stand with the Palestinians and recognize this genocide for what it is. In fact, I've lost a lot of empathy and compassion for the Jews. Because of their ability to treat people and demonize innocent civilians this way, I assume they learned and/or remember very little from the Holocaust. If they'd learned something they'd be the last people to commit such atrocities against others. I know the Israeli government is the culprit with geopolitical motivations but the citizens are complicit if they allow and support what is going on.
Some of Pakmans views on this subject have been very disappointing
Great stuff MR crew!!
I think Pakman is pretty good on most issues. Theres no one source that matches 100% of my views. Ill keep watching both Pakman and Majority Report.
Yeah he's just doing a little oopsie being pro-genocide. No big deal. Gonna keep watching him push apartheid propaganda, as a treat 🙄
Me too
I’ll keep watching too but I have to say I’m finding g-e-no-c-ide to be my red line tho 😔 his complete lack of empathy over the situation has been truly striking
Hearing that story does change paint David in a different light for me. I can see how that may have hurt David's feelings but I agree with Matt 100%.
Thank you guys. I’ve been really disappointed with Pakman since this started. I don’t know how a true leftist an ignore what’s happening to Palestinians
Humans are tribal. Pakman is Jewish. I'm disappointed too, but I understand that it would be difficult for me to accept the undoing of the USA's genocidal ethnic cleansing of our natives. We aren't perfect. (Including me, which I will prove by never watching the PacBigot again.)
@@RichardLewisCaldwellBeing Jewish is not relevant here.
Pakman is closing his eyes and listens to IDF and facist ideologes like Netanjahu, that's the issue.
When its 7000 innocents for 13 Hamas deaths the world can't not see it. If there is 50'000 hamas( which i woukd guess is a low figure) and it takes 7000 for 13, im not sure the math but it can't be ignored. The amount of people playing dumb and simping to Isreal is getting sickening. Pakman didnt even talk about 10/7 until the Tuesday or Wednesday after. And then when he did cover it he obviously had picked a team, he is jewish, so im not suprised. I do watch him, but i watch all sides, all views, it seems any intellectual adult agree's war is bad. Peace
That's a bad argument about why Pakman chose his side. There is no reason why Jews "should" choose the Israeli side. Plenty of Jewish people support the Palestinian people in their moment of need and suffering. I think anyone who backs what Israel is doing is either ignorant or despicable.
@razorednight so he is ignorant and despicable. I know there is a large movement of jews calling for ceasefire, but many are going to support Isreal. The censorship and propaganda is getting pretty bad, on both sides. It needs to stop, but it won't
10/7 was a Saturday. Pakman doesn't do shows on weekends. And by the time the individual clips get uploaded, they are far from breaking news even during the week.
And he has not picked a side. His first video on these specific attacks was full of outrage at people in the US (myopic BLM, tankie DSA) and Australia explicitly cheering Hamas for having fought back by slaughtering Israeli civilians who "had it coming". All other videos of his about the conflict in the decades before and the weeks since have been condemning atrocities against civilians on both sides.
@twincast2005 have you heard him say ceasefire. Sometimes, not saying something speaks volumes. Maybe he has called for a ceasefire, i dont watch everything the man puts out. I feel he picked a side after the hospital attack. The day after it when IDF said " it wasn't us, we wont show proof, but trust us" He said must be the truth, Isreal said so. then the proof was suspect at best. 60 different medical facilities have been bombed and we dont hear anything about it. 2 different U.S newspapers came to 2 polar opposite conclusions using the same evidence, on the hospital bombing and it doesnt matter cause Palestinians getting killed doesn't count. Your upset with my Pakman take and totally glossed over 7000+ innocent people mostly children, who have been killed to get 13 hamas terrorists. That ok with you? And for the record the terrorist attack on 10/7 was disgusting and inhumane and the culprits need to be brought to justice. But this is just genocide, its bad if Russia does it ok if our buddies do it. Nothing new really. Now they have cut all internet along with no water, no power, no food, no where to go. You do you
Gillerman's mode of speech smacks of Hitler
This show constantly challenges me to think better.
War is peace.
Slavery is freedom.
Ignorance is strength
2 + 2 = 5
Genocide is real.
Big Brother is blind leader
Big Brother is deaf leader
Big Brother is mute leader.
Dogs and cats
Living together
Mass hysteria!
This has been going on for over 100 yrs. Britain forcefully started this and made dam sure it continued.
Its a bit difficult to find YT evidence from that time, but plenty of writings and written history.
Please, no more killings.
Pakmans channel is the biggest MSNBC host application ever constructed
lol Israel completely misunderstood the Saw films. That’s a special kind of stupid.
Just like Republicans did with the Game of Thrones and Thanos references they were using when it came to Trump. Jordan Peterson is doing the same thing with his obsession for using the Joker as his "spirit animus"
He''s not the only one and by no means the most egregious. I keep finding more and more normal sane and reliable centrist sources identifying any criticism as "Hamas fans" -- and staying away from them.
fwiw "bombing into the stone age" is so Vietnam.
God, that Dan Gillerman guy literally looks like one of the adults form the game “Little Monsters.”
Thanks!
Lucikily im in Australia, and not in a city either. We dont see religeous anything, just land stealing. To achieve same indigenous peoples treated in this undesirable way til death, and their lands built on. Like here .
Love you guys.
Guys, great work. I just wanted to ask your opinion about some chatter I heard . I live in the middleast and am heartbtoken by all the deaths in Gaza. The deaths in Israel are also an atrocity of course but in Gaza its a genocide.
Anyways, I wanted to know if you heard anything about the ground invasion being supported by Delta force with the use of nerve gas into the tunnels.
That would be the beginning of WW3. I am very worried.
@@DrinkingyoursaltytearsallahHow is killing innocent people “western morals”? I mean, it’s obviously American morals because they are notorious for killing innocent civilians, but the West isn’t only the US.
I actually saw alot of Packman's stuff. Its kinda sad that he is holding that line. Tyler Cohen also kinda been holding that same line. I imagine cuz they are jewish its harder for them to understand the other side of this unfortunately.
So much for them being the one people who have risen above tribalism and are the moral center of the universe.
I used to have a feeling that pakman's refusal to acknowledge the 75 year oppression was mostly about his family relations + ignorance of palestinian history, which I think is understandable. but no excuse works after israel is carpet bombing civilians while calling them animals. even if he knew NOTHING about palestine before the hamas strike, no one can claim that innocence after seeing the continuing war crimes. if this didn't flip him, he must've known the truth all along and simply agreed with the genocide.
It's not fair to blame being Jewish as the reason why Pakman has this awful take on Gaza. There is no reason why Jews should support what Israel is doing right now. Pakman's bad take is entirely down to his personality, not his religion.
Uhhh, Sam's Jewish too.
@@rileyfuckingrifle friend. I clearly dont know what packman is thinking, but for political commentators u know that among jewish people who are in politics/political commentary Sam is the exception not the rule. I wish i was different, its just where we are
Can anybody explain me what this issue about David Packman is about?
And Brooks?
Pakman should be much much further down the list of people to beef with than you think
Pakman should respond to this. I do like David, but wow he seems scummy for what he did.
Why dont you say what exactly he did?
More petty than scummy, to be honest.
23:00 SO ACCURATE. man i fucking love you guys
I’m here from tonight’s episode of the Leftist Mafia (May 16, 2024), after finding out that the Majority Report has criticized David Pakman’s “coverage” of Gaza.
Can someone please tell me, how do you rescue hostages with tanks?
David Pakman s output has been garbage lately
In mainstream news and government
I see you around here often buddy so I’d like to ask you one question; when will you denounce Hamas?
@@wilcee238 Will you denounce Israeli war crimes?
@@wilcee238When everyone denounces the occupation
@heyrakorzlar I forgot sarcasm doesn’t translate over the internet
@wgrazier279 the day everyone denounces the occupation, is the day Sarah Huckabee Sanders quits politics to become a model.
Outstanding
The crazy thing is calling it a genocide. How silly.
What would you call the indiscriminate killing of an entire group of people?🤔
@@techsupport891 that it is discriminate. Learn how words work. What do you think warning sirens are used for? Or knock bombs? To get out civilians. If isreal wanted to genocide Palestinians. They could. What are you talking about.
This guy kinda reminds me of Prince, his expressions.
You younger generations will be the drastic change the world needs.
i used to think that but things have been back sliding...
i mean....and look at how the hippies ended up
@doggodoggo3000 Hippies lost their way, and their fight, because capitalism is probably the most addictive drug known to man.
I am sure you guys have seen a drop in the numbers, but I wanted to mention NONE of your videos that mention P@lestine, G@za, or Isr@el do NOT show up in the default feed. I honestly thought you guys weren't covering it, until i searched for your page, and I'm subscribed! :(
So since the IDF is mandatory to join for regular service and everyone between 18 and 40 is a reservist, doesnt that make essentially all Israelis (except those exempt) essentially current or former military personnel who have slaughtered their people?
Its a bit different that Gaza where the vast majority of citizens have never picked up arms. Does that potentially change the way Palestinians view Israelies especially Jewish Israelies? They see them as combatants on leave not civilians.
I’m not sure I agree with Brandon’s take that those that voted for Biden are complicit in this. Should the current system we have be damned for allowing this to go on? Absolutely. But choosing to vote for the lesser of two evils in a system where there are literally only those two choices does not make one complicit in it. The system is fucked. Not the people who voted for Biden in the general. Maybe those who voted for Biden in the primary
Agreed
You know they won’t put barnaby on. He will absolutely destroy every single talking point they have
God I miss Michael… packman has rubbed me the wrong way… it’s an echo chamber over there
Wait, Binder a couple of days after brooks dies talks about how Brooks didn't really fit with Pakman and really is on Binder side, and he doesn't understand how insensitive that would come off? Lmao yeah right
THE GIRLS ARE FIGHTING 🍿🍿🍿
Matt Binder!
Ohhhh, juicy David Pakman beef!
Damn. Cancel that Pakman membership... whoopsiEeee!! Hey at least the dumb Pakman feud during Covid got me onto yall, a daily watch
Not interested in petty complaints, let’s talk about the stuff the matters
(5:22) Except for glow sticks and LED lights.🤔
I wish I said yes when you asked me out Emma....My bad
I never liked Pakman. I tried watching a few times and got weird vibes from him.
yeahh like i said on another vid where packman was mentioned, i stopped watching him after he defended the bolivian coup, that was my last straw. ESPECIALLY since he comes from south america (argentina iirc) like cmon man
The BROADEST brush, Brandon!
As a spokesperson for the Office of the Iranian Ayatollah, i am wondering if there's a way that i can sponsor this channel? Its goals are very closely aligned with mine
Dehumanization Of Palestinians In Western Corporate Media And Government Continues. There, fixed it.
Pakman having videos on critical thinking is now even more ironic considering he seems to have stopped using it himself. Was a subscriber of his until it became clear he has no desire to understand trans people's struggles and is extremely biased when it comes to Israel and Palestine.
What is strange is i think covid is the reason we have to thabk for people paying attention more. Some people moved away from politics and the like but many dived right in. So people who had their eyes and ears closed in previous years are now open to hearing the news regardless.
I'm glad I didn't watch Pakman much: after I heard his brutal pro-South American coup take(s), I knew that I shouldn't trust him as a source of any information. Because who knows what other issues his family background compels him to have sociopathic opinions on, as well.
Conservatives are allowing that on both sides???