I just purchased one of these yesterday in frost green brushed motor and it's really quite fast straight out of the box on 2S. I also have a black kyosho 1969 Chevy Camaro VE brushless on 2S and I found it a little hard to drive safely but my new brushed g14 l motor on 2S is soo soo nice and much easier to drive.and as I said really fast on 2S straight outta the box. Love your videos too , great location and great speed test run. And your camera work is awesome too. Plus I really like that beautiful blue Camaro and wanted one but its sold out in Melbourne Australia. Doesn't matter now though because when I saw how beautiful the frost green is I fell in love with it and got one for myself. Thanks too because I was curious what speed I would achieve with 2S in my car. Great video and thankyou Sir.💪
My guess a 2S 25mph and 3s 35mph. So after video I was very happy of GPS view. I would not make it faster for the fun of keeping control at such already a fast speed. Unless you’re going to modify for drag racing or to do drift with the model. I rather be in control of vehicle than run after it to put it back on wheels. Cheers
I almost jumped my kyosho fazer mk2 Charger into a river today. Not on purpose obviously. Best quality and most ive spent on rc car ever and worth it. All the adjustments/accessories included for using differing wheels and bodies is ingenious. Great thought put into its engineering/design!
I have the Chevelle body and was very curious about speed. In the parking lot I was running it in it seemed fast as lightning. Confined space I assume. It is also nice to know that it is 3s capable, I didn't see it in the paperwork. They are great bodies. Thank you Greg
Chris Figiel Yeah it isn’t in any paperwork or on the website. I happened to pull the ESC out to take a look at it and noticed 2S-3S printed on its label. 2S is probably best for general running and 3S for occasional fun runs.
Just a heads up for anybody that got one of these. I bought one a couple weeks ago, and love it! The 1969 Camaro Z/28 in LeMans Blue is my all time favorite muscle car, and Kyosho got all the details down perfectly. I run a 3s, so I monitor the motor heat closely. I did a little suspension adjusting with the shock positioning, to get a little '70s street machine "rake". I also put heavier oil in the shocks (55w) to eliminate some of the chassis bounce. The factory shock oil is very thin, probably 25w, and there is hardly any shock effect. Upon disassembling one, I discovered the circlip was completely off the piston rod. The rest were ok, but I thought I'd just share this with you guys. It's always a good idea to go over all the mechanicals on an RTR vehicle. One more thing, the tires wear very quickly on asphalt. Thanks Greg, for a great video!
I had one similar from RadioShack as a kid. It was navy blue with a deep yellow stripe going down the middle as wide as the hood line. Loved that car. Unfortunately, I only have the broken body left. It would be nice to get a clear body to recreate and add the drag slicks and wheels from the HPI cars.
Great vid! You seem to be getting a bit faster speeds on the 2s than other vids I've seen....what was the c rating on the battery you were using in this test? Thanks for the assist and the vid.....I'm sold!
im personally thinking to put off road wheels on mine，and i also notice the little plastic tube that sticks up on the inside of mine is breaking on me，do you have any suggestions for replacement？
GREAT RC CAR. JUST BOUGHT ONE. CAN YOU SHOW MORE DETAILS ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BATTERIES. EXAMPLE 2S AND 3S, DO YOU HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ON THE ESC? AND HOW MUCH mAH could I go up to? ALSO, ON THIS TYPE OF RC WHAT RATING OF C DO I NEED, 100C, 80C, 20C….
Where did you find info about the ESC being 3S compatible? I looked on both Kyosho and Kyosho America sites and didn’t find specifics. Also, isn’t 3S going to burn out that 550 brushed motor after a few packs? Or is that motor safe to run on 3S.
RCDriver_Online I was curious as I’m thinking about buying the Kyosho Mad Van, which is basically just a jacked up version the Camaro and the other Fazer Mk2 vehicles as best I c c an tell. You should review that one!
Adam Lievrouw That Mad Van does look like a blast. With any RC, monitor your temps once you start bumping up the power or swapping pinions. The Van is swinging bigger tires so you’ll want to monitor it a bit more closely.
Thank you for this video, when I bought this car and the hobby shop said not to use this stock with a 3s,.. I can't find any where in the manual or the official website saying it would run on a 3s .. Did you just use the 3s for a speed comparison or do you think it would be ok to run a 3s full time without burning out the ESC ? or wouldn't you recommend running a 3s full time?
Just picked up the gto, its quick, waiting on some lights and a soundbox, gonna be a scratch free going for a walk car, wish they would do a 69-70 roadrunner in dark green
Hi! I have this same camaro and I’m new to hopping up rc’s. Have a hobbywing xerun 5.5 combo coming soon. Waiting on aluminum drive shaft , metal cups & other stuff to strengthen & improve handling. Also bought the kyosho velvet coated 37t pinion, Is that a good fit ? don’t know where to find other gear upgrades & don’t know if they’re even necessary. The manual doesn’t help & I can’t find much online. Also, is the kyosho red metal motor mount a must?
I guessed 22 and 36, so batting .500! Greg, while this car looks FANTASTIC, it seems so weird to have a 4wd Camaro. Why do so many RC manufacturers do this when replicating 2wd sports/muscle cars? Seems to ruin the aspect of having a scaled down "realistic experience", no? Great vid, BTW! 👍🏻👍🏻
I want to see more speed testing on cars and do you know that the Camaro of this car has a shorter wheelbase than the Chevelle model of this car and I think the Chevelle has wider tires.
My brushless Team-Magic E4RS4, Orion racing motor and a motul touring body fetched 87km/h. Its amazing. Now I bought another body which is more streamlined. Maybe I can reach 90. 😎
With better chassis or a chassis plate would go brushless with 4s to see what speeds you could get but, you could damage that nice body is the only thing
What did you buy? I have the kyosho Hellcat and it has a 3s battery. Burnt everything up. I know nothing about cars or knew nothing but I do now. That G14L motor is weak and so was the esc. I can’t find any info on it. But I do want your Amazon info!
@@TheRoadLessChosen it was just the cheapest 3000kv brushless motor and esc combo i could find with prime shipping I think goolrc was the seller and the stock electronics can only handle 2s if you put 3s it will burn up immediately you also need to get the metal drive shaft replacement if you go brushless the stock plastic one bends and twists with a brushless motor part number for drive shaft for your car is FZ02L its like 8 bucks but you absolutely need it they have an FZ02 which is for short wheelbase like the camaro so make sure you get the one with the L at the end of the part number that stands for long wheelbase which is what you have
@@TheRoadLessChosen also should by a gyro for it it will make the car 1000 times easier to control their like 30 bucks can full throttle from dead stop in a straight line or hold a drift much easier
Win I got my 69 it did 22 mph with a lipo 2s 5000 30c. BUT then I went and got a brushless 3650/4t max volt 13 3900 max rpm 50000 motor 4 pole 12 slot high torque with speed controler and a new 68 pitch gear and a steel 37 pinyun gear. And my kyosho 69 camero is dead on every time at a max speed of 72 mph it's just to much fun ever one tips on the real scale but win I drop the hammer it blows every one's mind beleave me it's unreal how crazy it is
My man. I’m new to this and my son absolutely loves these cars. We got the kyosho dodge hellcat purple and blew the damn motor because I used a 3s on that shit motor. The G14L … is that a brushed motor? What should I do to get those types of high speeds. Lead the way and I’ll buy the stuff and make a video about it
Ah yes the most asked question in the entire hobby, how fast does it go. And really 30mph of scale speed is on the fast side as I doubt a 69 Chevy would manage to pull 300mph.
Scale speed doesn't work by doing the speed *the scale..... Lol It needs to be squared like the weight. If you have a 10th scale car that weights 3kg the real car doesn't weigh 30kg......
Well I guess I was talking about I’d like to do 300 miles an hour in a real 1969 Chevy Camaro, I get what your saying. The real way of breaking numbers down into true scale. Some people don’t know, maybe an idea but cheap skate sales folks think 1/12 scale is close enough to call it 1/10. It’s in the neighborhood so that’s fine right??? 😂
@@kravenkrawlhobby5438 how about this, it looks 10 times smaller than a real car because its 1/10 right?, lets say its doing 30mph and x10 that would be 300mph, the weight doesn't matter if it looks unrealistically fast and gets to its top speed in a few seconds, you cant see how much something weighs.
you could get that car really ripping with a hot setup but I would really hate to see that go sailing into the air at 65mph or faster and completely destroy that nice scale body but if it's for science than a 5700kv motor on 3s with a large pinion should get it past 70mph but stopping it in a controlled fashion will be the trick, it's all fun and games until you're in the street picking up the pieces of what's left of your pride.
My guesses were 24mph on 2s and 37mph on 3s. Kinda random and specific at the same time numbers just popped into my head ig lol. Edit: I was almost right
Ipperu RC Well first, it’s an RC car. It’s a hobby, it’s about fun. So yep, it’s important to some people. And I’ve had more messages to know it’s speed than any other car in the past year. So that in itself warrants a quick speed test video and at 36mph for a brushed car out of the box, the video shows it’s quick to those interested.
To a lot of people yes speed is very important. Who wants a slow muscle road car? Of course I will follow that statement up with speed is relative so for him to post the speed it is a very important and wanted video.
I watched it, but it's a stock motor, never🤔 mixed 3s lipo on brushed motor, (DANGER)🥵 only go for brushless and converted upgrades, safety comes🧐 first, Nice very late review.
I kinda wondering how much heat that motor and esc is generating on 3s
36mph for a brushed setup, insane👍👍
I just purchased one of these yesterday in frost green brushed motor and it's really quite fast straight out of the box on 2S. I also have a black kyosho 1969 Chevy Camaro VE brushless on 2S and I found it a little hard to drive safely but my new brushed g14 l motor on 2S is soo soo nice and much easier to drive.and as I said really fast on 2S straight outta the box. Love your videos too , great location and great speed test run. And your camera work is awesome too. Plus I really like that beautiful blue Camaro and wanted one but its sold out in Melbourne Australia. Doesn't matter now though because when I saw how beautiful the frost green is I fell in love with it and got one for myself. Thanks too because I was curious what speed I would achieve with 2S in my car. Great video and thankyou Sir.💪
My guess a 2S 25mph and 3s 35mph. So after video I was very happy of GPS view. I would not make it faster for the fun of keeping control at such already a fast speed. Unless you’re going to modify for drag racing or to do drift with the model. I rather be in control of vehicle than run after it to put it back on wheels. Cheers
Good thing you drove that thing with two hands this time! What a screamer! 🤣🤘🤘 It is a very nice looking car.
jondilly1974 Agreed! 🤣
Now jump it onto an RC Yacht in Miami!
Wheelman714c Now there’s an idea.
I get that reference XD
Dude Dudeness me to.
My favorite scene in the whole franchise lol
I almost jumped my kyosho fazer mk2 Charger into a river today. Not on purpose obviously. Best quality and most ive spent on rc car ever and worth it. All the adjustments/accessories included for using differing wheels and bodies is ingenious. Great thought put into its engineering/design!
I have the Chevelle body and was very curious about speed. In the parking lot I was running it in it seemed fast as lightning. Confined space I assume.
It is also nice to know that it is 3s capable, I didn't see it in the paperwork. They are great bodies.
Thank you Greg
Chris Figiel Yeah it isn’t in any paperwork or on the website. I happened to pull the ESC out to take a look at it and noticed 2S-3S printed on its label. 2S is probably best for general running and 3S for occasional fun runs.
I've heard people say the motor/esc won't last on 3s.i have the charger and its a blast on 2s. It goes through tires like crazy though!
jackalo626 where can I find tires?
@@MOONRAKER1922 i did amazon amd looked for best ratings, they were less than $10 shipped prime
Just a heads up for anybody that got one of these. I bought one a couple weeks ago, and love it! The 1969 Camaro Z/28 in LeMans Blue is my all time favorite muscle car, and Kyosho got all the details down perfectly. I run a 3s, so I monitor the motor heat closely. I did a little suspension adjusting with the shock positioning, to get a little '70s street machine "rake". I also put heavier oil in the shocks (55w) to eliminate some of the chassis bounce. The factory shock oil is very thin, probably 25w, and there is hardly any shock effect. Upon disassembling one, I discovered the circlip was completely off the piston rod. The rest were ok, but I thought I'd just share this with you guys. It's always a good idea to go over all the mechanicals on an RTR vehicle. One more thing, the tires wear very quickly on asphalt. Thanks Greg, for a great video!
Thanks for sharing your experience with it!
is running a 3 s ok for the stock motor? for the long run it's ok?
I would like to see a sensored brushless setup. Nothing crazy.
That’s what I run in my tamiyas ❤
I had one similar from RadioShack as a kid. It was navy blue with a deep yellow stripe going down the middle as wide as the hood line. Loved that car. Unfortunately, I only have the broken body left. It would be nice to get a clear body to recreate and add the drag slicks and wheels from the HPI cars.
Great vid! You seem to be getting a bit faster speeds on the 2s than other vids I've seen....what was the c rating on the battery you were using in this test? Thanks for the assist and the vid.....I'm sold!
What monster truck is that over your right shoulder?? The one by itself??
ordered ,waiting for the mail
have fun & stay safe
Still waiting?
I have the 1970 Charger Kyosho. Brushless my first RC car and bought a 3cell lipo. Love it so fast for a starter car. Now I want the Camaeo body.
J Miles any issues with the motor getting hot on 3s ?
My motor blew. I have the kyosho Hellcat.
@@markrichards6410 you find any news results??
You know if that 3rd channel switch on the transmitter can be used as on and off switch for head lights?
What connector is the 3s lipo and brand?
Can the motor handle the 3S okay as well?
Did you have any drive shaft issues. Ive heard on 3S the drive shaft flex's and rubs the ESC wires
How far does the transmitter go?
using 3s,wouldn't that burn out the motor or esc?
so...stock motor and esc 3s good?
You mentioned a 2 and 3s lipo battery. Did you use Traxxas batteries or the ones it comes with and can I switch to Traxxas Batteries?
im personally thinking to put off road wheels on mine，and i also notice the little plastic tube that sticks up on the inside of mine is breaking on me，do you have any suggestions for replacement？
Did you find something suitable ? In rally style tread???
well it is way faster than I thought and now I want one
Big slicks and jack up rearend headers too
Is this the losi 69 camaro? Thanks
How long you think that 14 turn motor will last on a 3s?
Was it really hot after running on 3s?
GREAT RC CAR. JUST BOUGHT ONE. CAN YOU SHOW MORE DETAILS ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BATTERIES. EXAMPLE 2S AND 3S, DO YOU HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ON THE ESC? AND HOW MUCH mAH could I go up to? ALSO, ON THIS TYPE OF RC WHAT RATING OF C DO I NEED, 100C, 80C, 20C….
Where did you find info about the ESC being 3S compatible? I looked on both Kyosho and Kyosho America sites and didn’t find specifics. Also, isn’t 3S going to burn out that 550 brushed motor after a few packs? Or is that motor safe to run on 3S.
Adam Lievrouw The ESC has it printed on its label 2S-3S. Running on 3S could increase motor brush wear depending on how you run it.
RCDriver_Online I was curious as I’m thinking about buying the Kyosho Mad Van, which is basically just a jacked up version the Camaro and the other Fazer Mk2 vehicles as best I c c an tell. You should review that one!
Adam Lievrouw That Mad Van does look like a blast. With any RC, monitor your temps once you start bumping up the power or swapping pinions. The Van is swinging bigger tires so you’ll want to monitor it a bit more closely.
would using a 3 s mostly be ok for the motor? I have the chevelle body, but i think it's same platform and motor right?
Thank you for this video, when I bought this car and the hobby shop said not to use this stock with a 3s,.. I can't find any where in the manual or the official website saying it would run on a 3s .. Did you just use the 3s for a speed comparison or do you think it would be ok to run a 3s full time without burning out the ESC ? or wouldn't you recommend running a 3s full time?
What size battery option did you but with this?
nice test 👍
Can you do a video on the new e revo vxl
Can this race in VTA class?
Would a 4s be overkill? I bought the Kyosho Alpine GT4 version of this chassis.
Just picked up the gto, its quick, waiting on some lights and a soundbox, gonna be a scratch free going for a walk car, wish they would do a 69-70 roadrunner in dark green
I got mine to go 72 mph every time on 2s 5000 30c 7.4. It's cazy fun now and the spectators love watching it
Do you have a video of it
Videos or it didn't happen
Its imposible even to drive 72 kmh !!!
2 wheel drive or 4?
Hi! I have this same camaro and I’m new to hopping up rc’s. Have a hobbywing xerun 5.5 combo coming soon. Waiting on aluminum drive shaft , metal cups & other stuff to strengthen & improve handling. Also bought the kyosho velvet coated 37t pinion, Is that a good fit ? don’t know where to find other gear upgrades & don’t know if they’re even necessary. The manual doesn’t help & I can’t find much online. Also, is the kyosho red metal motor mount a must?
I'm looking to order this. What size 2s or 3s lipo do you recommend?
I guessed 22 and 36, so batting .500! Greg, while this car looks FANTASTIC, it seems so weird to have a 4wd Camaro. Why do so many RC manufacturers do this when replicating 2wd sports/muscle cars? Seems to ruin the aspect of having a scaled down "realistic experience", no? Great vid, BTW! 👍🏻👍🏻
I think back diff is locked so you can get the rear loose b4 the front let's go
I want to see more speed testing on cars and do you know that the Camaro of this car has a shorter wheelbase than the Chevelle model of this car and I think the Chevelle has wider tires.
Yes and yes, I have both.
When is the next trx4 sport build video? I love the series
Just got a part I’ve been waiting for. Working on it now. Should be posted within the next few days.
RCDriver_Online ok 👌
It needs a brushless system, Gregory.
Needs like a Castle set up then we'll be getting some ware
Anything brushless will make that thing get it.
My brushless Team-Magic E4RS4, Orion racing motor and a motul touring body fetched 87km/h. Its amazing. Now I bought another body which is more streamlined. Maybe I can reach 90. 😎
super cool looking rc! im late to the party but guessing 28
straight line speed is decent. Honestly the hard cornering looks like real fun.
Cool might have to get one.
With better chassis or a chassis plate would go brushless with 4s to see what speeds you could get but, you could damage that nice body is the only thing
Kyosho released a brushless version not too long ago.
That baby is sweet, it must have gyro huh cause she was rolling straight, I know your a good driver but roads are tuff at high speeds.
KRAVEN KRAWL HOBBY No Gyro. Stock right out of the box.
RCDriver_Online that’s really good for no gyro, been thinking about the Kyosho charger. All are very nice at a decent price....super affordable.👍
Nice 👍 video
Very well done 👍
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👈🏿🤩
I think you should do some body work, and change it into a 1969 Firebird. It would be very unique.
I bought a 45$ Amazon combo brushless esc and 3000kv I got 45 mph out of mine on 3s and drifts on all surfaces with ease now!
What did you buy? I have the kyosho Hellcat and it has a 3s battery. Burnt everything up. I know nothing about cars or knew nothing but I do now. That G14L motor is weak and so was the esc. I can’t find any info on it. But I do want your Amazon info!
@@TheRoadLessChosen it was just the cheapest 3000kv brushless motor and esc combo i could find with prime shipping I think goolrc was the seller and the stock electronics can only handle 2s if you put 3s it will burn up immediately you also need to get the metal drive shaft replacement if you go brushless the stock plastic one bends and twists with a brushless motor part number for drive shaft for your car is FZ02L its like 8 bucks but you absolutely need it they have an FZ02 which is for short wheelbase like the camaro so make sure you get the one with the L at the end of the part number that stands for long wheelbase which is what you have
@@TheRoadLessChosen also should by a gyro for it it will make the car 1000 times easier to control their like 30 bucks can full throttle from dead stop in a straight line or hold a drift much easier
@@jonny5101 ahhh shit. Done deal. I’m on that now!
@@jonny5101 what battery type? You’re saying don’t do the 3s even with the upgrade? I can’t find the gyro.
Win I got my 69 it did 22 mph with a lipo 2s 5000 30c. BUT then I went and got a brushless 3650/4t max volt 13 3900 max rpm 50000 motor 4 pole 12 slot high torque with speed controler and a new 68 pitch gear and a steel 37 pinyun gear. And my kyosho 69 camero is dead on every time at a max speed of 72 mph it's just to much fun ever one tips on the real scale but win I drop the hammer it blows every one's mind beleave me it's unreal how crazy it is
My man. I’m new to this and my son absolutely loves these cars. We got the kyosho dodge hellcat purple and blew the damn motor because I used a 3s on that shit motor. The G14L … is that a brushed motor? What should I do to get those types of high speeds. Lead the way and I’ll buy the stuff and make a video about it
Love them Chevys.
Me too lol.
Drags slicks and brushless!
John Cenna?
27 2cell. 30 3cell?
Arrma Infraction electronics. Yes, please!!😮
It's almost always a 50% gain when going from 2S to 3S, which makes sense. :)
Mark G *Almost* 😀
My rustler 4x4 vxl does 60 km/h on 2s, and 90 on 3s, so that is 33% gain, which makes even more sense. 30 km/h per cell.
Throw in a brushless system that's even too the 3500kv in the traxxas 4tec 2.0 vxl see what it will do
Ah yes the most asked question in the entire hobby, how fast does it go. And really 30mph of scale speed is on the fast side as I doubt a 69 Chevy would manage to pull 300mph.
BlueDually4x4 I sure would try brother
Scale speed doesn't work by doing the speed *the scale..... Lol
It needs to be squared like the weight. If you have a 10th scale car that weights 3kg the real car doesn't weigh 30kg......
Well I guess I was talking about I’d like to do 300 miles an hour in a real 1969 Chevy Camaro, I get what your saying. The real way of breaking numbers down into true scale. Some people don’t know, maybe an idea but cheap skate sales folks think 1/12 scale is close enough to call it 1/10. It’s in the neighborhood so that’s fine right??? 😂
@@kravenkrawlhobby5438 how about this, it looks 10 times smaller than a real car because its 1/10 right?, lets say its doing 30mph and x10 that would be 300mph, the weight doesn't matter if it looks unrealistically fast and gets to its top speed in a few seconds, you cant see how much something weighs.
I just brout the buick it didnt come wiht a battery what battery do i need
where can i get the battery ?
you could get that car really ripping with a hot setup but I would really hate to see that go sailing into the air at 65mph or faster and completely destroy that nice scale body but if it's for science than a 5700kv motor on 3s with a large pinion should get it past 70mph but stopping it in a controlled fashion will be the trick, it's all fun and games until you're in the street picking up the pieces of what's left of your pride.
72 mph is how fast I got mine to go
I would install a a 4s system in it senseless of course
Maybe a 12t brushed motor upgrade so it's slightly better than stock 3s lipo maybe 40+mph just a thought for you mate 🇬🇧👍
It looks cool but I definitely wouldn't use the word "fast" to describe it 😂
guessing 21 on 2s and 25on 3s
I want a Hugger Orange one.
25 on 2s and 36 on 3s if running 32/68.
35 2s 43 3s y hope 👍
Great body
I would like to see the nitro version ,ass I am a nitro guy.
There is a nitro version, check out the Kyosho website
2s is probably about 28mph and 3s is probably about 35
My guesses were 24mph on 2s and 37mph on 3s. Kinda random and specific at the same time numbers just popped into my head ig lol. Edit: I was almost right
Keep the same.
Is it really important? Speed...? Car is really beautiful and if it's brushed you know that is not fast...
Ipperu RC Well first, it’s an RC car. It’s a hobby, it’s about fun. So yep, it’s important to some people. And I’ve had more messages to know it’s speed than any other car in the past year. So that in itself warrants a quick speed test video and at 36mph for a brushed car out of the box, the video shows it’s quick to those interested.
To a lot of people yes speed is very important. Who wants a slow muscle road car? Of course I will follow that statement up with speed is relative so for him to post the speed it is a very important and wanted video.
I think at least 25 on 2a and 40 on 3s
On 2S 35mph and on 3s. Mayby 48 mph.
25mphand35mphand do more speed runs.
I watched it, but it's a stock motor, never🤔 mixed 3s lipo on brushed motor, (DANGER)🥵 only go for brushless and converted upgrades, safety comes🧐 first, Nice very late review.
O men Gear is to low 😁👍
Make it 6s or 8s
The chassis looks alot like a tt02...hmmmmm
Keith Lloren And a AE TC-4 and a Redcat Lightening and...
25mph on 2s. 37mph on 3s
Damn I was actually quite close!
Man I was way off
2s 17mph
Nitro nitro nitro..forget that..
I reckon 25mph - 30mph
15
28-31 mph is my guess
I think the 2 cell will go 23 and the 3 cell will go 33
20mph
the new one can go with a nihm 36 mph
I bet with one cell it would run 12 mph
2S: 27 mph and 3S: 36mph....
28 on 2s 35 on 3s