These folks have a 8-10 part series, something like that, on a small RUclips channel called living web farms. They basically take you through their whole operation down in GA and talk about how they run their farm, their business, a lot about land in general, it’s incredibly informative and interesting.
10 corporations own America food. 6 corporations own the media in America. They give the illusion that they’re doing the right thing. I’ve know this since the 80s come on America what happened to our society?
Tech capacity is there to inform and include public in decisions. Especially after blockchain. That is why crisis arose. To make everyone busier. Governments also can’t predict a stable future. Politicians should exists to find the facts and offer solutions all transparently can be viewed by people.
What she’s describing specifically within the meat industry is also happening in the grocery industry. Kroger owns a baffling amount. For a time, if you had a Safeway, Albertsons, or Fred Meyer in your town…you were buying from the same people if you were shopping at any of them. There is allegedly an anti-trust lawsuit going on, but the likelihood of it amounting to anything meaningful is slim to none. It will just be window dressing. Look up the umbrella of companies Kroger owns and then the subsidiary brands within them. “The Illusion of choice” indeed. Good luck trying to boycott some of these companies if they ever do you wrong…they have spiderwebbed across the entire nation and even the world.
Kroger is one of the absolute worst corporations out there. They're one of the first stepping in line to sign contracts with big Pharma and the FDA to make sure you have carcinogens in what they want to call food. They abuse their employees like no other Corporation, worse than Amazon. I am so glad I don't work for that shitty slave driver anymore.
Not just groceries or farming. Also the same with the movie industry, media companies, health/beauty industry, and probably more I can't think of. But that's what you get with capitalism.
Thd US has the party that supports the Constitution - the party of freedom on the Right - and the party trying to tear it apart - the authoritarian control freaks on the Left. What good would more parties do? Here in Sweden, we saw the consequences of many political parties, and put them all in one of two coalitions. We still don't have a right-wing, but educated Swedes are working toward it.
They have done this to EVERY industry in America. This is the real reason why everything is so expensive and why we all feel as if we can barely keep up. These conglomerations work together to raise prices in order to take advantage of consumers and make more money than God himself. All while our government officials take their money to help them make this possible. A change is needed.
The only person responsible for your food is you, it's really simple all you need to do is buy you some land and grow your own food! Not complicated how to make a change! The complicated part is not starving before you learn how to grow something to eat! Come to think of it, you could graze in the right of ways of rural roads, there is plenty of green plants there to eat, there's rats, snakes, rabbits, etc. But you'd probably in thirty days, decide to just go to a grocery store and buy your food!
Joe is legitimately the only interviewer on the planet that will have on a pair of regenerative farmers that no one has ever herd of to talk about the farming industry and then the next day have a conversation with The Rock.
I've noticed in Australia that our two main grocery brands (Woolworths and coles) have been bringing out more products under their own brand names for substantially less than other brands products, while hiking the prices on other brands. I never buy them because it seems obvious that it will just give more power to the duopoly but most people probably just buy whatever is cheapest, very concerning for the future.
I was wondering why prices on certain products were jumping for no real reason. I've noticed also that they have little care to how healthy their products are for example Coles juice. Golden Circle went from around $3 to around $5 while Coles juice is under $3. I bought a couple chickens recently and I've begun growing my own vegetables. The neighbours love it because I have more food than I can eat now so I just share it around.
It gets seriously so depressing realizing we are being screwed over in every possible way. Like every time you turn around you’re being crapped on in every aspect of life.
@@kcwkembm agreed. these days life seems so much "worse than it was" but i think it was always bad, people were just more ignorant. these days we can see the lie, which is why it seems so awful
Just shop at a farmers market. This is largely on us the public. The companies are literally just giving us what we want, and what we want- cheap meat at large scales- is destroying both the planet and ourselves
I personally watched the family farms get wiped out one by one back in the 80s and ours was one of them. The days of the working family farms are gone and what's left is a corporate run food system.
Keep bringing these people on Joe you kick ass, another few amazing farmers i can reccomend would be Jean Martin Fortier from Quebec, he is an amazing educator and has done a few different local farm focused projects over the past 20+ years. And you should get Joel Salatin on again, especially during all the shit happening to farmers these days with state departments of agriculture cracking down on small scale operations.
When you start thinking of modern America as a corporation instead of a country then it all makes sense. Everything's for sale everything's about making money. We could change that maybe we got a chance.
Yes, Greed and Control are destroying us. Many of our founding fathers were the wealthy and prominent ppl of their time. Many gave their lives for the ppl......true heros. Could you imagine a politician or ceo doing this today lol..
Yes we have moved past a Capitalistic system into one with heavy handed regulations under the guise of "protecting the citizens", an Oligarchic system with Socialist programs as a stop gap.
The USA and America are 2 completely different things, one is a corporation the other was a country by the people and for the people. The latter died in 1876.
Crazy fact here : I'm French and I work almost a year on site for a big tech company in the US Arizona. They had like a cantine for their workers. As a French, like you mentionned (around 12:00) it was very disturbing for me to get a burger with fries at 3$ but If I wanted to eat healthy and get just a salad, it was around 15$. From an outside culture its crazy that you basicaly have no choice of eating in an unhealthy way. I understood why there is so much obesety in US because the junk food is so easy and cheap...
This is why we grow/raise our own food. Going on year 3 in February. Get the kids involved, find ways to put back more than you take and always remember “You may not sit in the shade of this Lemon tree but your Grandkids will.”
Yep I feed my dog the same pasture raised beef from a local butcher that I eat. Arm roast is $4.69/lb and all of the tendons and organs are $1.50/lb. I feed him 75% organs (mostly heart) and 25% Arm, which comes out to $2.30/lb. Put it in the crockpot with a little bit of water and thats it. Tendons as treats, no more chews from China. Started doing this after I fed him Tyson chicken from Wal-Mart and his hair fell out and he broke out in rashes 😬
Good on this man. Laying the ground work for something good. He needs to be honored and remembered. They need better healthier food not more cheap garbage that shouldn't even be classified as food.
The answer is buy local from local farmers and for Gods sake stop haggling the prices down. Yes everyone wants a deal, but as one of these homestead farmers, I am hanging up my operations cause costs have gotten too high and people asking for 30-50% off the price I offer, I just can't afford it anymore. So now I just raise it for myself and when old customers show up My prices are much higher cause its my own food they are buying and it now sells at a premium
Your prices are higher because it's your food people buy? Sounds like you're greedy and taking advantage. Not saying that you are ;but it sounds like it the way you wrote your comment.
@@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr How do you get greedy and taking advantage from what they described. People have every right to charge what the market allows, that is the nature of supply and demand.
@@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr My operating costs have gone up so maybe that is the communication disconnect, I raise Meat goats. When I started a 75# bag of grain was $18 now it is $32, a Bail of Hay was $8 now it is $18-$24 depending on the time of year. I use to sell my animals for about $150-$200 per head now I can only get $200-$250. My costs to raise livestock is well past a profitability point unless I scale up significantly which is not an option. The part about selling for a higher price at this point is more to do with that is what I am growing for myself, so if you are going to buy what I grew for my self I am going to charge end rates + that you would see at a market instead of wholesale because I am going to have to pay that same rate so it needs to be more or its just a flat trade and I'd rather eat my own product than one I did not have control over because what I produce has always tasted better than what I have been able to buy. Hope that is more clear.
The food doesn't get moldy because of the surface area it has, related to how thin it is. It's so that the patties can be cooked thoroughly very quickly. Well one of the other characteristics that it displays is that it loses moisture very quickly, compared to patties that we would make at home. Food doesn't rot or mold if it drys. If you sliced potatoes in a similar size to mcdonalds fries. Bought similar buns, made beef patties of similar thickness and diameter, similar weight. And left it on your counter. You would get the same results
I thought that there were only 3 companies that control the release and distribution of meat throughout the U.S....these are processing plants ( slaughter/ packing).. controlling how much gets slaughtered, when it gets slaughtered, when it's packed and when and how much is released to the consumer.
I had just learned about White Oak Pastures recently. Placed my first order a few weeks ago (the bone broth is phenomenal and the chicken thighs are fantastic). How shocked I was to see the man I had just learned about on Joe Rogan. Good for him! And good for Joe to have heroes like this on his channel
Will Harris has done amazing things for spreading the regenerative agriculture story. People need to get to know their local farmers and look at buying direct from a farm that produces meat and vegetables in a sustainable, regenerative, and healthy way. It’s really not much more expensive than buying stuff than fast food. It’s all about priorities, and choosing to put in a little extra work to make healthy meals for your families. I hear so many people complain about inflation while they are drinking a $12 cup of coffee. The future for better food is bright. A good time to start is now, the best time was yesterday. Just Say’n 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
Farmers should stick to farming, leave the writing to the writers. You don't see me harvesting your radishes and if you did you'd cringe at my amateurism.
@@makinnewcounts6676Urban idiots should learn how farms work before they vote on which slaughterhouse is more "urban" friendly before they become food themselves...
First off I could listen to Jenni speak for hours ❤ that goes for pretty much anybody who knows their business inside out and upside down.... I'm an Albertan.. I was under the impression that a lot of your imported beef came from Alberta. And a lot of our beef was imported from the US. USA! Everything is so convoluted I'm just lost the food system.
I was born in the 70s and at school we were taught that farming works in a rotation. I remeber the lesson it was a farmer with 4 fields, 2 fields with 2 different crops 1 field with a sort of cattle and 1 field fallow... and then every year rotate them. guess money/greed threw that way of farming to the wayside
You nailed the issue with your comments on fast food Joe. I spent a career working with farmers coast to coast at USDA. Fast food supports and promotes industrial ag. Another major issue is farmers are retiring in droves and less than half are being replaced. The ones left keep getting bigger and must industrialize to stay in business with larger equipment. In reference to manure ponds; most large operations are being managed with the oversight of state agencies that monitor manure applications closely. The manure is a very valuable resource. Unfortunately, many operations are under the radar screen of 1000 animal units and may not practice the best manure management. Know your farmer and know your food. Buy direct and local if you wish to know where your food comes from. Thank you for bringing light to this issue Joe.
I think that going after Factory Farming would be a political movement that would see a lot of bipartisan support in America. Not just vegans but most meat eaters would agree that animals raised in factories is sad and disgusting. Ending factory farming would definitely raise fast food and grocery store costs, but I think it'd be worth it to raise the standards for lives of animals before they become food
Excellent topic. Time to have Joel Saladin on to discuss renewable agriculture. He's written several books on how to renew our farmlands, provide a good life for the animals, the health of our land as well as all us who gratefully eat them.
@@johannesantila5738 it's true.. plant agriculture isn't perfect by any means. But with 80 billion farmed land animals mouths to be fed, the vast majority of plants grown such as soya, corn and wheat are fed to the animals we eat.
@@bertt_y It's much more complicated than that I can assure you. The point of "green revolution" was exactly the opposite. Animals and plant rotation on farms got substituted for chemical inputs, monocrops and combustion engine based machinery. Both fueled by dinosaur oil. And now we have a system that uses up to 20 calories of energy to produce 1 calorie of energy in food.
The problem was fixed when people lived on land and didn't rely on industrial farming and instead traded with neighbors. People chose city life and having to rely on others to get dirty
I grew up rural and hated it, lived in the city and now I hate that and want to live country again and all I want in the world is to work toward real food and clean water. I worked on factory farms as a kid and it is so sick and wrong.
@@genie3531 The famine here in austria was mostly war related but the way modern houses are built (and city regulations) prevents people from keeping livestock. Back then most houses where i grew up were built for functionality and had the main house, a small workshop and a livestock building accessible through a small courtyard. It didn't even take much land.
Respect to all the farmers. It's hard intensive work. If some of today's younger generation tried it, they might spend less time navel gazing and worrying about their pronouns.
Respect to them for sure. But I’m a millennial can you point me to where I can buy some land and become a farmer? Oh I need generational land and wealth to get started? Exactly. Don’t need to shit on a group to praise another
@@jopo7996 I thought the point was to not work on or own or support industrial farms, that’s all that’s around me bubba. If I want to start my own the industry is priced out unless your daddy and his daddy had some land. Boomers seem to be obsessed with pronouns just as much as the blue haired libs not sure why that lives rent free in your head
There is a choice guys! Buy from your local farmers....take food responsibility and don't patronize companies that don't raise food that doesn't align with your values!
I know we really appreciate our military but our farmers are SUPER IMPORTANT FOR LIFE so everytime you meet or see a farmer please thank them for their service
That’s a hard problem to solve. We’d need more young people becoming regenerative farmers and more people with discretionary income buying those products - which would be expensive in the early going. Then eventually with enough farmers and enough demand the price should stabilize at a reasonable level so almost everybody will be able to afford it. Good luck bitches 😅
It really is scary. The way animals are raised and processed in these industries are just not good at all. Any type of manure recycled back into the land will turn any type of soil into gold. The only reasoning behind why these industries don’t do it is because of money. Quick money. Also laziness. Let the animals roam and move them from paddock to paddock and farm the land they just crapped on and you’ll get some of the most healthy crops ever. If it works in a backyard setting, it will most definitely work in an industrial setting. Just in a massive scale. Things gotta be done….. Change…..🙏🏼
The issues with industrial farming are known, but it is not the least bit clear that more expensive artisan meat production is either scalable or affordable for many/most people. $9 to $10 per pound ground beef is very expensive.
As someone who went to Penn State for agriculture I hope to be part of the generation that helps fix this problem. I don't have anything to do with animals but when it comes to the plants and especially the mushrooms that we eat I hope that advertising the benefits of a food system that has waste from one sector contribute to raw materials for the next one. I honestly hate grocery stores for reasons that they're talking about and if my plan goes right I'll be spending less than $100 a month at grocery stores by 2026
Joe, you should checkout Dan Egan’s book about Phosphorus, the Devil’s Element. He describes at length the downfalls of recycling animal waste back into the agricultural industry. And how large amounts of the liquid waste that’s used as fertilizer washes away into local watersheds and creates harmful toxic freshwater. He’d be a great addition on your show!
I have worked on the daiey industry from a kin here in WI. I ran a CSA 8 years produce, chicken & pork on pasture. Agricultural can be changed Over Night if people stop shopping at Walmart Aldi.....got their shit meats and produce from other countries. Each time one family chose to buy direct off local farms, in 10 years local family farms will have exploded. Regenerative Ag is real and can sustain our county but it HAS to be done at the LOCAL level with state & fed help. 1. Feds need to STOP subsidies yo the Corp Shit farms. 2. They need to stop price foxing the industry.
People didn’t ask for cheaper food. These monopolies kill a lot of jobs as they get bigger in this land of mergers and acquisitions. The jobs that are left are unskilled labor that doesn’t pay enough. Even if you don’t lose your job, your pay doesn’t increase with the cost of living. You have to work more hours for less money if your downsized. Those who get to keep their jobs in mergers have to do the job of at least 2 people. In order to make up for the lack of time and funds you’re told to get fast food, pre-made food delivered to your house. Ironically the food isn’t cheaper or faster. We are conditioned to buy these foods and the circumstances make it harder to find healthy affordable food that can be made easily. Especially if you live in an area not deamed worthy to have fresh produce. There’s a reason why the zip code you’re born into dictates every aspect of your life. There’s a difference between choice and coercion. Knowing the difference between the 2 makes the difference between improving the situation, and victim blaming. Showcasing people who have community food growing programs help. Suggesting that people buy tube of meat from Costco, like Joe Rohan suggested at one point, just indicates how out of touch he is with the fact that poor people don’t have $60 membership fees to take out of their budget. Or live off a tube of $60 meat without having health issues like debilitating constipation developing with in a week. Joe Rogan is very smart, but seems to have a blind spot when it comes to the working poor who make up 80% of the North American population.
My first job after leaving school was labouring in a slaughter house called Parker Meats in Leicester, UK. We slaughtered 80/120 beef, 800/1200 mutton and between 1500/3000 porcine per day!! That was 1987 :/
@@generalwillwelsh7926correct, but you can’t just survive off bananas lol. A lb of hamburger is $7 and you need at least 2 lbs to make a meal for 4-6 people. Plus the bread or whatever else. Enough for 1-2 people may be cheap, but most families are 4 individuals and it also depends on location. But location doesn’t really matter when like they said, “illusion of choice.” It’s expensive to try starting to live 100% and it’s almost impossible because even the seeds you buy to grow in your garden are all owned by the same companies that produce the food and it’s all GMO.
Are we not depleting the hell out of our soil with (Ethanol) bio fuel crops, and impacting food prices negatively? Speaking of crops, I bought fresh oranges from Smiths/Kroegers, this week, perfectly firm and bright orange, all three were throw-up rotten inside. I've had similar luck this year with apples, except, they are not even close to mature inside, but bright red on the outside.
Honestly it's a scary headscratcher when you think about the food in this country. We're sending so much food to starving nations and now war-torn nations and an additional 3 million of ILLEGALS each year (more strain on the power grid) AFTER all these hurricanes, freezes, forest fires, floods, droughts and insane heat domes that Texas and Oklahoma barely survived. That endless rain and freeze a couple years back killed a lot of fruit trees..then we had this heat dome bullshit 2 years in a row and that did a lot of damage. It seems like eventually it'll catch up with us..we're growing half of our corn just to use in our vehicles now. California grows most of our fruit and veggies, everywhere else is corn, beef, cotton.. It's scary. I haven't had fruit on my few trees in a while due to this crazy weather. Lake Mead was down dangerously low and 3 states use that water. Vegas gets nearly all its water from the CO river and that thing was critically low. It was pretty close to an epic disaster recently. We need to stop sharing all our shit and focusing on preparing for hard times here on our own soil.
@@wheelmanstan This is true, and Ca isn't even smart enough to build massive water reservoirs, not to mention; Ca is Desert!!!! When the floods hit they'll be screaming too. They plan to go elect on vehicles ? 31 million EV's on a grid they already can't keep online. This country is going to the dogs.
What is an example of desensitization? Desensitization is the opposite; our amygdala learns that something is not dangerous, through experience. Take our spider example: if this guy continues to approach the spider, it teaches the amygdala that the spider is not as dangerous as he once thought.
Let’s have more people like this on podcasts instead of comedians who tell the same 6 jokes and talk about the same thing every time their on. This shit actually matters.
there was a McD's cheeseburger thrown against a wall of a notorious college party slum lord house that had been there since the early 90's in Wayne, NE. I know this because I saw it as a kid visiting my brother, and then it was there when I went to college 15 years later. My nephew sent me a picture just a few weeks ago.......still going strong. People sign the wall to have there name next to the timeless McD's burger.
I remember reading a comment from a guy who took his son to his old school to show him a spot on the roof where he once tossed a cheese slice from a school sandwich..and the outline of the cheese is still there.
This is another issue that will vary greatly between USA and Canada as our opposition leader says the climate tax is making our local food so overpriced. Normally the cost of transportation from say Mexico or California for produce would make things grown here more accessible but no not now with the carbon tax and electricity costs because it's effin freezing in most provinces half the year so industrial farming and hydroponics will cost too much and even regular season they tax fertilizer and most farms use large tractors and machinery that needs electricity and gasoline too then there is the cost of animal feed too and employee wages and land taxes and water restrictions and diesel for transport trailers etc. So we can't get fresh food soon it's all going to be canned and foreign and still likely more pricey than it used to be too. That of course will impact our healthcare system eventually because diet is an important factor in disease prevention.
I’m a weed farmer in Humboldt County CA. I’m small time but survive because we do more than weed. You have to be diverse as possible and create closed loop systems which sustain themselves and provide a full spectrum of products or foods for family needs and extra income. Grow food, forage food, creat closed loop regenerative ag systems on your lands and communities.
I keep 6 laying hens and 30 meat chickens for 8 weeks twice a year. The eggs taste better and you would not believe the difference in the meat quality. I hadn't tasted chicken like this in 20 years. I will not be turned into a little soy fed greyling time traveler.
Having farmers on to discuss topics as important as this is one of the many reasons JRE is the best
couldn't agree more. precisely right!
Well, you know what they say, “you may need a doctor once a year, a banker once a month, but a farmer you need three times a day.”
Couldnt have said it better myself
Absolutely! Cheers.
Don't eat animals and animal products. That's the solution.
These folks have a 8-10 part series, something like that, on a small RUclips channel called living web farms. They basically take you through their whole operation down in GA and talk about how they run their farm, their business, a lot about land in general, it’s incredibly informative and interesting.
thank you for this.
Thank you
Thank you for sharing, i will definitely check out their channel!
Can I order beef from them in Tenn?
I'm a professional pot grower. But I grow everything. But once you understand organic farming it's all pretty easy tbh
10 corporations own America food. 6 corporations own the media in America. They give the illusion that they’re doing the right thing.
I’ve know this since the 80s come on America what happened to our society?
Buy from a local farmer if you want to pay double. I’m going to continue to enjoy cheap beef
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Social media?
Tech capacity is there to inform and include public in decisions. Especially after blockchain. That is why crisis arose. To make everyone busier. Governments also can’t predict a stable future. Politicians should exists to find the facts and offer solutions all transparently can be viewed by people.
@@ngf5077and enjoy the cancer that comes with it too.😂😂🤦🤦
What she’s describing specifically within the meat industry is also happening in the grocery industry. Kroger owns a baffling amount. For a time, if you had a Safeway, Albertsons, or Fred Meyer in your town…you were buying from the same people if you were shopping at any of them. There is allegedly an anti-trust lawsuit going on, but the likelihood of it amounting to anything meaningful is slim to none. It will just be window dressing. Look up the umbrella of companies Kroger owns and then the subsidiary brands within them. “The Illusion of choice” indeed. Good luck trying to boycott some of these companies if they ever do you wrong…they have spiderwebbed across the entire nation and even the world.
Kroger is one of the absolute worst corporations out there. They're one of the first stepping in line to sign contracts with big Pharma and the FDA to make sure you have carcinogens in what they want to call food. They abuse their employees like no other Corporation, worse than Amazon. I am so glad I don't work for that shitty slave driver anymore.
Most chicken is processed in same spot.
Also look at Smithfield Foods (and it’s subsidiaries)… then look at who bought Smithfield Foods in 2013.
In 1945 the entire world lost...
Not just groceries or farming. Also the same with the movie industry, media companies, health/beauty industry, and probably more I can't think of. But that's what you get with capitalism.
George Carlin said "Youve got 27 flavors of ice cream to choose from but only 2 political parties." The illusion of choice is real
@@brackstonhildebrand5074 Of course it’s a Carlin quote. That’s why it reads…… Carlin said…..
Carlin was an anti-White scumbag.
Thd US has the party that supports the Constitution - the party of freedom on the Right - and the party trying to tear it apart - the authoritarian control freaks on the Left. What good would more parties do?
Here in Sweden, we saw the consequences of many political parties, and put them all in one of two coalitions. We still don't have a right-wing, but educated Swedes are working toward it.
@@brackstonhildebrand5074yeah, that's what the comment starts with.
@puppymeat puppy meat . I think I scrolled halfway past this, sorry I ruined your day
To live near this family in Georgia is an honor. Will is the antithesis of Bill Gates. Two opposite bottom lines. One health, the other wealth.
What part of Georgia? I just moved here. Am curious, thanks.
Never mind. I just did my own research. I am just 60 miles away. 🤗
So well said
That’s awesome
Thankyou JRE for continuing to bring on great 'guests' and keeping topical conversations alive! Industrial farming ep is GOLD 👍👊
They have done this to EVERY industry in America. This is the real reason why everything is so expensive and why we all feel as if we can barely keep up. These conglomerations work together to raise prices in order to take advantage of consumers and make more money than God himself. All while our government officials take their money to help them make this possible. A change is needed.
And one tiny group of people are responsible for it all.
The only person responsible for your food is you, it's really simple all you need to do is buy you some land and grow your own food! Not complicated how to make a change! The complicated part is not starving before you learn how to grow something to eat!
Come to think of it, you could graze in the right of ways of rural roads, there is plenty of green plants there to eat, there's rats, snakes, rabbits, etc. But you'd probably in thirty days, decide to just go to a grocery store and buy your food!
@@melvinrexwinkle1510 wish I had the time but unfortunately I have to work for money although I'd love to live off the land
BTW, God doesn't need, and I don't believe, ever had any money!
@@reyray7184 no, everyone who eats is involved, it is a free country, we all have the right to eat what we choose, or to not eat!
Joe is legitimately the only interviewer on the planet that will have on a pair of regenerative farmers that no one has ever herd of to talk about the farming industry and then the next day have a conversation with The Rock.
The name of the book is called "A Bold Return to Giving a Damn" by Will Harris
I've noticed in Australia that our two main grocery brands (Woolworths and coles) have been bringing out more products under their own brand names for substantially less than other brands products, while hiking the prices on other brands. I never buy them because it seems obvious that it will just give more power to the duopoly but most people probably just buy whatever is cheapest, very concerning for the future.
I was wondering why prices on certain products were jumping for no real reason. I've noticed also that they have little care to how healthy their products are for example Coles juice. Golden Circle went from around $3 to around $5 while Coles juice is under $3. I bought a couple chickens recently and I've begun growing my own vegetables. The neighbours love it because I have more food than I can eat now so I just share it around.
It gets seriously so depressing realizing we are being screwed over in every possible way. Like every time you turn around you’re being crapped on in every aspect of life.
It's the Truman show with an illusion of choice.
depressed (deep-rest) just dont give up ❤️
At least now we do realize it. We are not asleep anymore. We cant even try to fix it if we dont realize it.
@@kcwkembm agreed. these days life seems so much "worse than it was" but i think it was always bad, people were just more ignorant. these days we can see the lie, which is why it seems so awful
Just shop at a farmers market. This is largely on us the public. The companies are literally just giving us what we want, and what we want- cheap meat at large scales- is destroying both the planet and ourselves
I personally watched the family farms get wiped out one by one back in the 80s and ours was one of them. The days of the working family farms are gone and what's left is a corporate run food system.
Worth a mention is what else is contained in that pig waste. Genetically modified feed coupled with hormones and antibiotics.
...and now gene therapins
Don't forget about chemical castration - worth a call out on it's own.
Young Jamie getting put to work 😂😂
"That's what he does, he likes it". Joe still making Jamie his bitch 😂
I'm really glad Will came back on. His first episode was a great one, very interesting.
Looking forward to the whole show 👍
Keep bringing these people on Joe you kick ass, another few amazing farmers i can reccomend would be Jean Martin Fortier from Quebec, he is an amazing educator and has done a few different local farm focused projects over the past 20+ years. And you should get Joel Salatin on again, especially during all the shit happening to farmers these days with state departments of agriculture cracking down on small scale operations.
When you start thinking of modern America as a corporation instead of a country then it all makes sense. Everything's for sale everything's about making money. We could change that maybe we got a chance.
Yes, Greed and Control are destroying us. Many of our founding fathers were the wealthy and prominent ppl of their time. Many gave their lives for the ppl......true heros. Could you imagine a politician or ceo doing this today lol..
Yes we have moved past a Capitalistic system into one with heavy handed regulations under the guise of "protecting the citizens", an Oligarchic system with Socialist programs as a stop gap.
The USA and America are 2 completely different things, one is a corporation the other was a country by the people and for the people. The latter died in 1876.
Capitalism baby
The fact it’s harder to imagine a world with out capitalism than it is to imagine a post apocalyptic survival scenario is alarming
Crazy fact here : I'm French and I work almost a year on site for a big tech company in the US Arizona. They had like a cantine for their workers.
As a French, like you mentionned (around 12:00) it was very disturbing for me to get a burger with fries at 3$ but If I wanted to eat healthy and get just a salad, it was around 15$. From an outside culture its crazy that you basicaly have no choice of eating in an unhealthy way. I understood why there is so much obesety in US because the junk food is so easy and cheap...
This is why we grow/raise our own food. Going on year 3 in February. Get the kids involved, find ways to put back more than you take and always remember “You may not sit in the shade of this Lemon tree but your Grandkids will.”
Let me just rake my leaves to make room for a cow in my backyard
And always remember " only you can prevent Forest fire's"
Smokey "swag rizzlelicous" the bear
You raise and slaughter your own cattle?
@@tann_man no yet. Not yet. Pork, chicken and produce.
@@tann_man yeah people do that my grandparents from Italy used to
Yep I feed my dog the same pasture raised beef from a local butcher that I eat. Arm roast is $4.69/lb and all of the tendons and organs are $1.50/lb. I feed him 75% organs (mostly heart) and 25% Arm, which comes out to $2.30/lb. Put it in the crockpot with a little bit of water and thats it. Tendons as treats, no more chews from China. Started doing this after I fed him Tyson chicken from Wal-Mart and his hair fell out and he broke out in rashes 😬
Holy shit why is there so many fake comments in here
Right
Amazon amk69x moment of all time
Amazon's AMK69X whatever the hell that is. At least they're not recommending financial advisors for crypto investments lol
Wow I'm so glad Joe hosted this gentleman again. He was one of my favorite guests.
Good on this man. Laying the ground work for something good. He needs to be honored and remembered.
They need better healthier food not more cheap garbage that shouldn't even be classified as food.
I really liked this guy's first appearance on the jre! Can't wait to listen to this one in full
Where can i listen to full episodes if I may ask.
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Gabe Brown said " you might out yield me but I'll out profit you every time."
Jaime is the king of “pull that up”
The answer is buy local from local farmers and for Gods sake stop haggling the prices down. Yes everyone wants a deal, but as one of these homestead farmers, I am hanging up my operations cause costs have gotten too high and people asking for 30-50% off the price I offer, I just can't afford it anymore. So now I just raise it for myself and when old customers show up My prices are much higher cause its my own food they are buying and it now sells at a premium
I understand I but from a local butcher and prices have jumped so much and didn't understand but I get it
Your prices are higher because it's your food people buy? Sounds like you're greedy and taking advantage. Not saying that you are ;but it sounds like it the way you wrote your comment.
@@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr How do you get greedy and taking advantage from what they described. People have every right to charge what the market allows, that is the nature of supply and demand.
Quote: My prices are much higher cause its my own food they are buying and it now sells at a premium@@joeb.6831
@@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr My operating costs have gone up so maybe that is the communication disconnect,
I raise Meat goats. When I started a 75# bag of grain was $18 now it is $32, a Bail of Hay was $8 now it is $18-$24 depending on the time of year. I use to sell my animals for about $150-$200 per head now I can only get $200-$250. My costs to raise livestock is well past a profitability point unless I scale up significantly which is not an option.
The part about selling for a higher price at this point is more to do with that is what I am growing for myself, so if you are going to buy what I grew for my self I am going to charge end rates + that you would see at a market instead of wholesale because I am going to have to pay that same rate so it needs to be more or its just a flat trade and I'd rather eat my own product than one I did not have control over because what I produce has always tasted better than what I have been able to buy.
Hope that is more clear.
I did the same with a chicken nugget a year later no animals took it and it was still perfectly fine I quit eating fast food
Joel Salatin - Polyface Farm, Va has been doing regenerative farming for a long time in Virginia.
The food doesn't get moldy because of the surface area it has, related to how thin it is. It's so that the patties can be cooked thoroughly very quickly. Well one of the other characteristics that it displays is that it loses moisture very quickly, compared to patties that we would make at home. Food doesn't rot or mold if it drys. If you sliced potatoes in a similar size to mcdonalds fries. Bought similar buns, made beef patties of similar thickness and diameter, similar weight. And left it on your counter. You would get the same results
Joe needs to put these honest people in touch with a legal team or attorneys.
After watching 5 minutes of this video I had to watch. This is one of the most beautiful podcasts you’ve ever put out Joe!
2:58 I totally disagree with any government being involved! Government should ABSOLUTELY stay out of it!!
"You will eat ze bugs."- Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates too.
People already eat shrimp
I thought that there were only 3 companies that control the release and distribution of meat throughout the U.S....these are processing plants ( slaughter/ packing).. controlling how much gets slaughtered, when it gets slaughtered, when it's packed and when and how much is released to the consumer.
I had just learned about White Oak Pastures recently. Placed my first order a few weeks ago (the bone broth is phenomenal and the chicken thighs are fantastic). How shocked I was to see the man I had just learned about on Joe Rogan. Good for him! And good for Joe to have heroes like this on his channel
Will Harris has done amazing things for spreading the regenerative agriculture story. People need to get to know their local farmers and look at buying direct from a farm that produces meat and vegetables in a sustainable, regenerative, and healthy way. It’s really not much more expensive than buying stuff than fast food.
It’s all about priorities, and choosing to put in a little extra work to make healthy meals for your families.
I hear so many people complain about inflation while they are drinking a $12 cup of coffee.
The future for better food is bright. A good time to start is now, the best time was yesterday.
Just Say’n 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
antitrust lawsuits. there's no reason for so few corporations to control so much of the food supply.
She asked Jamie for so many pull ups, he now has bigger lats.
Mad respect for the real everyday farmers.
Videos like this are my favorite honestly
50 households to a beef rancher. 10 to a chicken rancher. Done
I absolutely loved the last podcast with Will, as a farmer, and I’m so glad he’s back
OHH PEOPLE ACCEPT ISLAM AND FEAR THE HELL FIRE
Farmers should stick to farming, leave the writing to the writers. You don't see me harvesting your radishes and if you did you'd cringe at my amateurism.
Joe having Will back is why he's so important
@@makinnewcounts6676Urban idiots should learn how farms work before they vote on which slaughterhouse is more "urban" friendly before they become food themselves...
@@makinnewcounts6676What writing of his are you so put off by?
My guy just shave it off
First off I could listen to Jenni speak for hours ❤ that goes for pretty much anybody who knows their business inside out and upside down.... I'm an Albertan.. I was under the impression that a lot of your imported beef came from Alberta. And a lot of our beef was imported from the US. USA! Everything is so convoluted I'm just lost the food system.
I was born in the 70s and at school we were taught that farming works in a rotation. I remeber the lesson it was a farmer with 4 fields, 2 fields with 2 different crops 1 field with a sort of cattle and 1 field fallow... and then every year rotate them. guess money/greed threw that way of farming to the wayside
You nailed the issue with your comments on fast food Joe. I spent a career working with farmers coast to coast at USDA. Fast food supports and promotes industrial ag. Another major issue is farmers are retiring in droves and less than half are being replaced. The ones left keep getting bigger and must industrialize to stay in business with larger equipment. In reference to manure ponds; most large operations are being managed with the oversight of state agencies that monitor manure applications closely. The manure is a very valuable resource. Unfortunately, many operations are under the radar screen of 1000 animal units and may not practice the best manure management. Know your farmer and know your food. Buy direct and local if you wish to know where your food comes from. Thank you for bringing light to this issue Joe.
I think that going after Factory Farming would be a political movement that would see a lot of bipartisan support in America. Not just vegans but most meat eaters would agree that animals raised in factories is sad and disgusting. Ending factory farming would definitely raise fast food and grocery store costs, but I think it'd be worth it to raise the standards for lives of animals before they become food
Problem is that masses who live pay check to pay check have other priorities
@@odysseusoodysseuso2784 yeah that's sadly true
This is stuff we need to hear
She was way too polite to Jamie.
Nahh I need to hear myself eating McDonalds
This is very eye opening I had a glimpse of the idea that we imported meat but didn't realize how big that was
Thanks for supporting your small local farmer
When a corporation is making record profits, and farmers are in record debt....something is broken
When he said he narrated it, immediate purchase! God Bless you Joe for not pissin’ in your britches to stay warm!
Excellent topic. Time to have Joel Saladin on to discuss renewable agriculture. He's written several books on how to renew our farmlands, provide a good life for the animals, the health of our land as well as all us who gratefully eat them.
I really appreciate farmers with morals
Farmers with morals.. Plant farmers?
@@bertt_yPlant farming = industrial farming with chemicals and machines.
@@johannesantila5738 it's true.. plant agriculture isn't perfect by any means. But with 80 billion farmed land animals mouths to be fed, the vast majority of plants grown such as soya, corn and wheat are fed to the animals we eat.
@@bertt_y It's much more complicated than that I can assure you. The point of "green revolution" was exactly the opposite. Animals and plant rotation on farms got substituted for chemical inputs, monocrops and combustion engine based machinery. Both fueled by dinosaur oil. And now we have a system that uses up to 20 calories of energy to produce 1 calorie of energy in food.
The problem was fixed when people lived on land and didn't rely on industrial farming and instead traded with neighbors. People chose city life and having to rely on others to get dirty
People would also migrate to the city during times of famine, both have benefits although I mostly agree with you
I grew up rural and hated it, lived in the city and now I hate that and want to live country again and all I want in the world is to work toward real food and clean water. I worked on factory farms as a kid and it is so sick and wrong.
@@genie3531 The famine here in austria was mostly war related but the way modern houses are built (and city regulations) prevents people from keeping livestock. Back then most houses where i grew up were built for functionality and had the main house, a small workshop and a livestock building accessible through a small courtyard. It didn't even take much land.
i thought it was the other way around, man ide fawkin H8 to live in the city@@genie3531
Would love a farm, if it was mine, not rented.
I really needed this. Thank you
I kept a bowl of doritoes for 15 years, they lost a bit of colour over time but still looked eadible.
Here for the “Jamie pull up that video” grizzly bear and DMT jokes
Then watch a cartoon. Respect DMT respect Joe and God damnit respect grizzlies this man Rogan has literally saved our world
@@makinnewcounts6676Jamie sucks at his search engine lacky job.
Respect the DMT
Respect to all the farmers. It's hard intensive work. If some of today's younger generation tried it, they might spend less time navel gazing and worrying about their pronouns.
Respect to them for sure. But I’m a millennial can you point me to where I can buy some land and become a farmer? Oh I need generational land and wealth to get started? Exactly. Don’t need to shit on a group to praise another
@@aakashk530 just like a millennial to think you should own the farm before you work on it. Sighhhh.
@@jopo7996 I thought the point was to not work on or own or support industrial farms, that’s all that’s around me bubba. If I want to start my own the industry is priced out unless your daddy and his daddy had some land. Boomers seem to be obsessed with pronouns just as much as the blue haired libs not sure why that lives rent free in your head
@@aakashk530 have you talked to any family farmers? What did they suggest? Get ready for an education.
"navel gazing" 😆
There is a choice guys! Buy from your local farmers....take food responsibility and don't patronize companies that don't raise food that doesn't align with your values!
Dude said I have a full head of hair 😂
Great to see this get covered on Joe Rogan podcast!
Thank you for bringing this to us all
This is what the vegetarians and vegans have been talking about for years. If we join together we can keep normal food and the healthy systems!
I know we really appreciate our military but our farmers are SUPER IMPORTANT FOR LIFE so everytime you meet or see a farmer please thank them for their service
That’s a hard problem to solve. We’d need more young people becoming regenerative farmers and more people with discretionary income buying those products - which would be expensive in the early going. Then eventually with enough farmers and enough demand the price should stabilize at a reasonable level so almost everybody will be able to afford it.
Good luck bitches 😅
It really is scary. The way animals are raised and processed in these industries are just not good at all. Any type of manure recycled back into the land will turn any type of soil into gold. The only reasoning behind why these industries don’t do it is because of money. Quick money. Also laziness. Let the animals roam and move them from paddock to paddock and farm the land they just crapped on and you’ll get some of the most healthy crops ever. If it works in a backyard setting, it will most definitely work in an industrial setting. Just in a massive scale. Things gotta be done…..
Change…..🙏🏼
Food is not cheap anymore...
Completely agree, limited options as most options honestly are processed and poisoning us. How are they not held accountable.
Farmers need to start controlling the food supply…control the food, control the government.
Just finished the audiobook...
Fantastic.
Everyone who sees the problems should give it a listen... and... Share it with those who don't!
What’s it called?
The issues with industrial farming are known, but it is not the least bit clear that more expensive artisan meat production is either scalable or affordable for many/most people. $9 to $10 per pound ground beef is very expensive.
This guy sounds like the perfect dramatic southern lawyer that is so great!!
As someone who went to Penn State for agriculture I hope to be part of the generation that helps fix this problem. I don't have anything to do with animals but when it comes to the plants and especially the mushrooms that we eat I hope that advertising the benefits of a food system that has waste from one sector contribute to raw materials for the next one. I honestly hate grocery stores for reasons that they're talking about and if my plan goes right I'll be spending less than $100 a month at grocery stores by 2026
100 🤣 what are we eating bugs?
Joe, you should checkout Dan Egan’s book about Phosphorus, the Devil’s Element. He describes at length the downfalls of recycling animal waste back into the agricultural industry. And how large amounts of the liquid waste that’s used as fertilizer washes away into local watersheds and creates harmful toxic freshwater. He’d be a great addition on your show!
WHOA! Rogan got *FOGHORN leghorn* 🐔
I have worked on the daiey industry from a kin here in WI. I ran a CSA 8 years produce, chicken & pork on pasture. Agricultural can be changed Over Night if people stop shopping at Walmart Aldi.....got their shit meats and produce from other countries. Each time one family chose to buy direct off local farms, in 10 years local family farms will have exploded. Regenerative Ag is real and can sustain our county but it HAS to be done at the LOCAL level with state & fed help. 1. Feds need to STOP subsidies yo the Corp Shit farms.
2. They need to stop price foxing the industry.
Can you imagine, being born and raised...
just to pull up things off the web LOL
Joe never disappoints us🎉
Get tucker carlson on the podcast
He disappoints me in bed
i concur. 1000% true!!
People didn’t ask for cheaper food. These monopolies kill a lot of jobs as they get bigger in this land of mergers and acquisitions. The jobs that are left are unskilled labor that doesn’t pay enough. Even if you don’t lose your job, your pay doesn’t increase with the cost of living. You have to work more hours for less money if your downsized. Those who get to keep their jobs in mergers have to do the job of at least 2 people.
In order to make up for the lack of time and funds you’re told to get fast food, pre-made food delivered to your house.
Ironically the food isn’t cheaper or faster.
We are conditioned to buy these foods and the circumstances make it harder to find healthy affordable food that can be made easily. Especially if you live in an area not deamed worthy to have fresh produce. There’s a reason why the zip code you’re born into dictates every aspect of your life.
There’s a difference between choice and coercion. Knowing the difference between the 2 makes the difference between improving the situation, and victim blaming.
Showcasing people who have community food growing programs help.
Suggesting that people buy tube of meat from Costco, like Joe Rohan suggested at one point, just indicates how out of touch he is with the fact that poor people don’t have $60 membership fees to take out of their budget. Or live off a tube of $60 meat without having health issues like debilitating constipation developing with in a week.
Joe Rogan is very smart, but seems to have a blind spot when it comes to the working poor who make up 80% of the North American population.
My first job after leaving school was labouring in a slaughter house called Parker Meats in Leicester, UK.
We slaughtered 80/120 beef, 800/1200 mutton and between 1500/3000 porcine per day!!
That was 1987 :/
the world has so many problems that has come to light in the last 5 years. I truly worry for the safety of the world.
A Big Mac meal now is about $18. Which isn’t so cheap anymore. So now it’s expensive and unhealthy lol.
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It’s ~$9 in northern VA which isn’t a cheap area. $18 maybe at the airport lol
Yet a banana is .69 cents. Food is not that expensive people just make bad choices.
@@generalwillwelsh7926correct, but you can’t just survive off bananas lol. A lb of hamburger is $7 and you need at least 2 lbs to make a meal for 4-6 people. Plus the bread or whatever else. Enough for 1-2 people may be cheap, but most families are 4 individuals and it also depends on location. But location doesn’t really matter when like they said, “illusion of choice.” It’s expensive to try starting to live 100% and it’s almost impossible because even the seeds you buy to grow in your garden are all owned by the same companies that produce the food and it’s all GMO.
A big Mac meal is $9 in central Florida. An $18 price must be in a very high cost of living area like New York perhaps.
I need more of this
Thank you for bringing this valuable content!
Are we not depleting the hell out of our soil
with (Ethanol) bio fuel crops, and impacting food prices
negatively? Speaking of crops, I bought fresh oranges from
Smiths/Kroegers, this week, perfectly firm and bright orange,
all three were throw-up rotten inside. I've had similar luck
this year with apples, except, they are not even close
to mature inside, but bright red on the outside.
Honestly it's a scary headscratcher when you think about the food in this country. We're sending so much food to starving nations and now war-torn nations and an additional 3 million of ILLEGALS each year (more strain on the power grid) AFTER all these hurricanes, freezes, forest fires, floods, droughts and insane heat domes that Texas and Oklahoma barely survived. That endless rain and freeze a couple years back killed a lot of fruit trees..then we had this heat dome bullshit 2 years in a row and that did a lot of damage. It seems like eventually it'll catch up with us..we're growing half of our corn just to use in our vehicles now. California grows most of our fruit and veggies, everywhere else is corn, beef, cotton.. It's scary. I haven't had fruit on my few trees in a while due to this crazy weather. Lake Mead was down dangerously low and 3 states use that water. Vegas gets nearly all its water from the CO river and that thing was critically low. It was pretty close to an epic disaster recently. We need to stop sharing all our shit and focusing on preparing for hard times here on our own soil.
@@wheelmanstan This is true, and
Ca isn't even smart enough to
build massive water reservoirs,
not to mention; Ca is Desert!!!!
When the floods hit they'll be
screaming too. They plan to
go elect on vehicles ? 31 million
EV's on a grid they already can't
keep online. This country is
going to the dogs.
Best way to fight industrial farms is to either raise your own or to buy locally from a farmer, and to not eat fast food.
Those are probably the only two words that shouldn't be in the same breath together... Factory farm 😵💫
What is an example of desensitization?
Desensitization is the opposite; our amygdala learns that something is not dangerous, through experience. Take our spider example: if this guy continues to approach the spider, it teaches the amygdala that the spider is not as dangerous as he once thought.
Let’s have more people like this on podcasts instead of comedians who tell the same 6 jokes and talk about the same thing every time their on. This shit actually matters.
It's hard to find content after a while. Those episodes are just filler episodes so he stays consistent.
there was a McD's cheeseburger thrown against a wall of a notorious college party slum lord house that had been there since the early 90's in Wayne, NE. I know this because I saw it as a kid visiting my brother, and then it was there when I went to college 15 years later. My nephew sent me a picture just a few weeks ago.......still going strong. People sign the wall to have there name next to the timeless McD's burger.
I remember reading a comment from a guy who took his son to his old school to show him a spot on the roof where he once tossed a cheese slice from a school sandwich..and the outline of the cheese is still there.
Lmao that’s actually wild if true
Cooked food is preserved... It's why we cook food... This is a stupid conflation.
@@Clobercow1cooking food is not a form a preservation, as it will rot within 24 hours if left out
@@Clobercow1ok, are you going to eat some fish that you cooked and placed in your fridge a few months ago?
This is another issue that will vary greatly between USA and Canada as our opposition leader says the climate tax is making our local food so overpriced. Normally the cost of transportation from say Mexico or California for produce would make things grown here more accessible but no not now with the carbon tax and electricity costs because it's effin freezing in most provinces half the year so industrial farming and hydroponics will cost too much and even regular season they tax fertilizer and most farms use large tractors and machinery that needs electricity and gasoline too then there is the cost of animal feed too and employee wages and land taxes and water restrictions and diesel for transport trailers etc. So we can't get fresh food soon it's all going to be canned and foreign and still likely more pricey than it used to be too. That of course will impact our healthcare system eventually because diet is an important factor in disease prevention.
Gabe Brown, Greg Judy, David The Good, Billy Bond & Joel Salatin. If you don’t know em you better learn em fast!!!!
I’m a weed farmer in Humboldt County CA. I’m small time but survive because we do more than weed. You have to be diverse as possible and create closed loop systems which sustain themselves and provide a full spectrum of products or foods for family needs and extra income. Grow food, forage food, creat closed loop regenerative ag systems on your lands and communities.
I keep 6 laying hens and 30 meat chickens for 8 weeks twice a year. The eggs taste better and you would not believe the difference in the meat quality. I hadn't tasted chicken like this in 20 years. I will not be turned into a little soy fed greyling time traveler.
Thank you for this episode!
Listening to the audible book. His voice is GOLD!!
Great episode. Joe treats the regular folk with grace and respect.
wtf u say. have respect for farmers.@JocKarlen
Farmers are not regular. They provide "regulars" with food. They are an extreme minority.
@@badlaamaurukehu all people are regular. Humanity is not tiered off you sociopath. Stop simping and resume to normal duties.
humans are humans don't be a maroon. @@badlaamaurukehu