I think this is an important issue. Many vocal coaches who haven't trained a lot of basses fail to recognize the distinction between a LOW voice and a DEEP voice. When they hear a singer like this, whose speaking voice is deep and lies near the bottom of his range, they immediately think BASSO PROFONDO. If, in addition, the singer hasn't learned to access head voice -- which can be especially trying for basses and baritones with deeper, darker voices -- then they may develop a self-concept of "low bass" based solely on the limitations of upper range. Pinning down the exact sub-type of bass voice isn't always easy, and a misdiagnosis can send one down the wrong path of training and frustrate the accumulation an appropriate repertoire.
@@shantanu.t Bass Baritone is what most singers are in quartet music. I don't have the full low richness of a Basso but as a Bass Baritone I'm closer to it than the whole Baritone range.
1:34 This is true; however, it also doesn't help that there are so many subcategories for Bass and Bartione when it all used to be called Bass and now Bass 1, Bass 2, and then 6-7 subcategories (etc) in both. And then we add lyric and dramatic on all of that, and it's very hard. I'm new to the fach system and have tried all the apps and have concluded that I'm a Dramatic Bass-Baritone. My Chest range is C2 to A4 ( Strong D2-G#4) headvoice is B4-F5. My breaks are at A3 and second is at E4. My tessitura is from D2- C4. When I record with the guys, I'm the only one that doesn't need a mic (Dramatic). Still learing and may learn that I'm a Bass 2, but since my high notes ring, definitely bartione land. Who knows -lol
@@INXS- bass baritone is still bass. It's just that the richness for lower notes like a profundo isn't as resonate. So a bass baritone is more bass than baritone. The cool thing is that they can duel in between both ranges if needed
I completely agree with Steve on this one. I would like to add that most vocal coaches that I have met tend to focus on and over work the top of a person's range, sometimes causing major strain and destroying the lower end of a singer's range. That is probably just my bad luck. Admittedly, it is probably one of the most difficult things to do ("pinning down"/determining the correct sub-type of bass voice), which is why we have so many basses nowadays that sound like the "Jake Brake" on a semi in their lower range and choked on the upper end. I can't remember the exact key that a voice teacher had me singing an old Caccini piece, but I had to drop it down to the b-flat to sing without straining my voice. That didn't happen until I had burned a LOT of bridges, pissed some people off, and ruined (at least for now) my chances at an education and career in music. She IS the professional and I the student, so it could have just been my own failings in doing so. Hopefully we can have more coaches that can bring more voices like Eric's.
The interesting thing is that he doesn't speak like a bass-baritone. He speaks like a dramatic high bass, at least the way I see it. I mean, you can't always tell what type of voice someone has just by the way they speak 🤷♂🤷♂
@@johndeeregreen4592James Earl’s voice is deeper than this, but I have always felt that James Earl Jones isn’t really a true bass either. Barry White, (who is often referred to as a bass baritone) sounds deeper than James Earl Jones. So I’m gonna say that if James Earl Jones was a singer he’d PROBABLY be a bass baritone. I can’t guarantee though. His speaking voice is definitely close to a bass voice though and is a very rare one.
@@bradycall1889The speech pattern and rhythm is, but the timbre I’d say no. Not just because it’s slightly higher either. JEJ’s voice just has a smoother sound to it, I really can’t describe it
im also the same, im 19 and have a chest range that is off a Bass (chest range being (Ab1)-B1-E4-(F#4) on a good day) but the tone and quality of a Lyric Bass-Baritone
It mostly happens when you look like 17, but when you say something everyone around is like freezed with a shocking gaze towards your direction. My voice ain't basso-profondo-deep, but deep enough to demand everyone's attention somehow.
Michael Narváez , My speaking voice went from being an extremely high tenor being categorized as a countertenor towards being a natural bass. There’s no baritone tonality to mine...is it even possible to go from being a high tenor down to being a low bass?
Bass is a very special voice (particulary when it comes to speaking). All the other voices are unintersting, very common and don't really grab your attention. That's what I've observed so far. By the way; not all baritones sound dark 'n' rich (think of the lyric ones) that are called 2nd tenors in the choir singing system. Even a dark one won't sound that as truly dark as a bass 'cuz the pitch isn't low. I'm wondering if there is a bass-baritone speaking voice though ?! Speaking of the male speech voices there are only 3 to mention: tenor (a high, light voice), baritone (a rich voice) and bass (a low, deep voice). I personally do not add bari. to the deep voice section.
you should listen some interviews of pavarotti. it feels good to hear him talk, even though he is a tenor, I think a good resonance what makes it satisfying to listen
@Timecondumer 93: Very true! Yes there is a bass baritone speaking voice, besides Eric in this video. In your search box, type in interview with bass baritone.
@@christianhenry4173 where can I hear it? I’m curious to see if it sounds like mine. Because I got classified as a bass baritone in high school and never looked back lol
@@johndeeregreen4592 Yeah I think it's the fact that his voice is very rich and has a dark timbre that makes some people think his voice is lower pitched than it really is. I admit that I myself would have been confused, too.
@@bradycall1889, exactly... he has a very velvety timbre, which makes him sound deeper than he is. Morgan Freeman fools people like this, too. Morgan's voice is deep, but also has a dark timber. In my opinion, bass-baritones with darker timbres have the best narrators and announcer voices.
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I think this is an important issue. Many vocal coaches who haven't trained a lot of basses fail to recognize the distinction between a LOW voice and a DEEP voice. When they hear a singer like this, whose speaking voice is deep and lies near the bottom of his range, they immediately think BASSO PROFONDO. If, in addition, the singer hasn't learned to access head voice -- which can be especially trying for basses and baritones with deeper, darker voices -- then they may develop a self-concept of "low bass" based solely on the limitations of upper range. Pinning down the exact sub-type of bass voice isn't always easy, and a misdiagnosis can send one down the wrong path of training and frustrate the accumulation an appropriate repertoire.
@@shantanu.t Bass Baritone is what most singers are in quartet music. I don't have the full low richness of a Basso but as a Bass Baritone I'm closer to it than the whole Baritone range.
@@christianhenry4173 So, how do you define the BB via range and tessitura?
1:34 This is true; however, it also doesn't help that there are so many subcategories for Bass and Bartione when it all used to be called Bass and now Bass 1, Bass 2, and then 6-7 subcategories (etc) in both. And then we add lyric and dramatic on all of that, and it's very hard. I'm new to the fach system and have tried all the apps and have concluded that I'm a Dramatic Bass-Baritone. My Chest range is C2 to A4 ( Strong D2-G#4) headvoice is B4-F5. My breaks are at A3 and second is at E4. My tessitura is from D2- C4. When I record with the guys, I'm the only one that doesn't need a mic (Dramatic). Still learing and may learn that I'm a Bass 2, but since my high notes ring, definitely bartione land. Who knows -lol
@@INXS- bass baritone is still bass. It's just that the richness for lower notes like a profundo isn't as resonate. So a bass baritone is more bass than baritone. The cool thing is that they can duel in between both ranges if needed
I completely agree with Steve on this one. I would like to add that most vocal coaches that I have met tend to focus on and over work the top of a person's range, sometimes causing major strain and destroying the lower end of a singer's range. That is probably just my bad luck. Admittedly, it is probably one of the most difficult things to do ("pinning down"/determining the correct sub-type of bass voice), which is why we have so many basses nowadays that sound like the "Jake Brake" on a semi in their lower range and choked on the upper end. I can't remember the exact key that a voice teacher had me singing an old Caccini piece, but I had to drop it down to the b-flat to sing without straining my voice. That didn't happen until I had burned a LOT of bridges, pissed some people off, and ruined (at least for now) my chances at an education and career in music. She IS the professional and I the student, so it could have just been my own failings in doing so. Hopefully we can have more coaches that can bring more voices like Eric's.
Chris Geisler It is NEVER too late. Just apply to another conservatory.
The interesting thing is that he doesn't speak like a bass-baritone. He speaks like a dramatic high bass, at least the way I see it. I mean, you can't always tell what type of voice someone has just by the way they speak 🤷♂🤷♂
You cant really tell fach by the way someone speaks 😂😂
@@VacantKey Correct
Masterclass of yours in Tristan et Iseult. Grateful to have heard your voice. Thank you.
Dude is just an all around awesome guy! Your voice range is amazing
Wow, what a voice!
Arjun dass ,raghuvaran both indian actors are also bass baritones
My whole life I thought I was bass and then I thought I was a baritone but it turn’s out im actually both
Também sou bass barítono.
What is that song that plays from 00:00 to 00:12?
Der atlas- Schubert. Great piece! Had good memories performing it in the beginning of undergrad.
@@musicstudent116: Thanks Music Student! 😁🙏🏾
His speaking voice sounds James Earl Jones
James Earl Jones' voice is considerably deeper. JEJ is a true bass with an extremely deep voice.
@andy, yeh.. take it from someone with an even deeper voice, who also teaches vocal and speaking technique. Now, GTFOH, pup.
@@johndeeregreen4592 I agree. The speaking voice of Eric Owens sounds similar in some ways to JEJ, but not quite as low pitched.
@@johndeeregreen4592James Earl’s voice is deeper than this, but I have always felt that James Earl Jones isn’t really a true bass either. Barry White, (who is often referred to as a bass baritone) sounds deeper than James Earl Jones. So I’m gonna say that if James Earl Jones was a singer he’d PROBABLY be a bass baritone. I can’t guarantee though. His speaking voice is definitely close to a bass voice though and is a very rare one.
@@bradycall1889The speech pattern and rhythm is, but the timbre I’d say no. Not just because it’s slightly higher either. JEJ’s voice just has a smoother sound to it, I really can’t describe it
Girls are like “😳🤤” when they here his voice
People say many times how deep and low my voice is for my age (19) but GOD it isn't nearly as deep as this I'm sure as hell haha
Please don’t take Our Lord’s Name in vain. Peace!
same fella. I'm also 19. F#1-B4 my vocal range. it's completely genetical.
im also the same, im 19 and have a chest range that is off a Bass (chest range being (Ab1)-B1-E4-(F#4) on a good day) but the tone and quality of a Lyric Bass-Baritone
It mostly happens when you look like 17, but when you say something everyone around is like freezed with a shocking gaze towards your direction. My voice ain't basso-profondo-deep, but deep enough to demand everyone's attention somehow.
i have a similar situation
Michael Narváez , My speaking voice went from being an extremely high tenor being categorized as a countertenor towards being a natural bass. There’s no baritone tonality to mine...is it even possible to go from being a high tenor down to being a low bass?
Yep I guess so, it's something to do with puberty..?
Sounds like Johnny's voice a little
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Bass is a very special voice (particulary when it comes to speaking). All the other voices are unintersting, very common and don't really grab your attention. That's what I've observed so far.
By the way; not all baritones sound dark 'n' rich (think of the lyric ones) that are called 2nd tenors in the choir singing system. Even a dark one won't sound that as truly dark as a bass 'cuz the pitch isn't low. I'm wondering if there is a bass-baritone speaking voice though ?!
Speaking of the male speech voices there are only 3 to mention: tenor (a high, light voice), baritone (a rich voice) and bass (a low, deep voice). I personally do not add bari. to the deep voice section.
you should listen some interviews of pavarotti. it feels good to hear him talk, even though he is a tenor, I think a good resonance what makes it satisfying to listen
Bass baritone fall between C2 or G2 in pitch I have a video of my voice if your wandering.
@Timecondumer 93: Very true! Yes there is a bass baritone speaking voice, besides Eric in this video. In your search box, type in interview with bass baritone.
@@christianhenry4173 where can I hear it? I’m curious to see if it sounds like mine. Because I got classified as a bass baritone in high school and never looked back lol
@@RegentofArrako it's on my channel I can sing G1s occasionally with Ease in the mornings now.
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This man sounds like he inhaled sulfur hexaflouride.
Nah, that's not even super deep... you should hear a basso profondo speak sometime... I am a basso profondo.
@@johndeeregreen4592 Yeah I think it's the fact that his voice is very rich and has a dark timbre that makes some people think his voice is lower pitched than it really is. I admit that I myself would have been confused, too.
@@bradycall1889, exactly... he has a very velvety timbre, which makes him sound deeper than he is. Morgan Freeman fools people like this, too. Morgan's voice is deep, but also has a dark timber. In my opinion, bass-baritones with darker timbres have the best narrators and announcer voices.
Nothing Baritone about that voice.
I agree, he sounds like a bass to me. Bass-baritone is, technically speaking, an umbrella term for high basses and low baritones.