@@P4wnyhof No need for every unique to be S-tier. Tyrael's is a very good place for a unique tbh. Has insane value with and a nice, but not game breaking effect. My first crafted one was the Vow spear thing. That was also my 2. crafted one, ofcourse...
I think shroud is s tier, but some other ubers like heir of perdition for necro, or starless for sorc builds could be very valuable. I think it depends sometimes on the build and character. It’s very subjective sometimes.
SS can still roll higher crit chance & attack speed than ancestral rings. Further, DT rogue benefits from the core skills range via Scoundrels leathers. F tier seems excessive
I dropped a Tyrael and Grandfather in T3 as a earthquake barb and I did actually use them both for awhile but man they don't really take you much past pit 65.
I am doing bosses runs with my necro and I got 4 doombringer before I finally got one shroud of the false death. And no crafting one is not an option because BAC runes are so damn rare to find.
the exact same for me. 4 doombringers on first day of mythic farming and I gave up. Came back the next day and dropped a shroud of false death, thankfully. rng my ass
im running a hyper poison rogue build and andy's is king in it!!! i definitely wish it had a damage helper instead of life on hit like damage to poisoned enemies or something!
Hey, thanks for the video. Quick question about andariels. Since minions lucky hit now, shouldn't it produce some crazy build with fists of fate getting up to 90% lucky hit?
I got a 4 star perdition which i putted on my necromancer with tripple critical chance affixe bonus but i prefer my rogue so would it be better than the current unique used on an arrow rain rogue ? And would i need to change the affixe bonus even if i got supper lucky with the tripple bonus ? 😊
After 100 runs on the bosses as Sorc , I got 2 Mythics - Doombringer and The Sorc Staff (the most useless item that has ever been).... RNJesus hates me.
my first mythic this season was a doomy the only toon that i used it on was my dancing blade rogue... and well lol my barb for a bit.. my druid, sorc, and necro is ultimate this season... false death and shako hands down.. (again they dont need the mythics but its nice)
I use doombringer on my sorceress for the extra survivability. Yes you lose some damage but it's better than getting one shot and in general dying a lot on T4. The extra life and damage reduction are a noticeable difference. Other than that mythic uniques are not extremely rare and you will get some by doing tormented bosses even in T3. But as the video suggests mythic unique does not automatically mean good.
Playing doombringer with triple hit on ga life %. Does more damage than a 2 hander. Druid catacylsm. Ive tried swapping back to a ga 2 handed mace but doombringer is outperform8ng. Is it a doombringer with ga on life AND a triple masterwork on life the exception?
Maybe they need to start thinking about mythic aspects or tempers. Just feels like shroud, shako and perdition are the only ones actually useable this season. SS is okay too on barb, but the rest are so niche… and blizz is most definitely aware (drop rates seem low on the most popular ones).
I got Selig and Doombringer. Isnt Doombringer needed for Bone Spear? Regardless. I only have the runes right now for Shako. I do have a ton of boss mats and about 100 runs (not a joke) of Varhsan to do.
im new to d4. i started towards the end of s6. so my barb in s6 is eternal now (150s paragon). since then i havent come across even an ansestral lvl 1 legendary. i use to get one at least every other play. do eternal characters just not run intp good gear?
Sad we look at leaderboards for the season like I get it but if people were self taught on a spiritual journey all mythics are viable cause of the witch abilities but shroud is busted for sure its a hyper item.
@P4wnyhof you assume way too much blood wave is clunky and not fun. Everyone in my guild dropped BW and went back to BS as even if it is not as good as BW it's not clunky and it's more fun.
They should only have around 4 Mythics in the game and make them desirable with good effects and a big power boost. A lot of the mythics in the game are trash.
I would watch your videos more if you didn't have the crazy face in the thumbnails. But I get that maybe it's what you've got to do to promote it to new viewers.
I am with you....but if you aren't seeing these faces...idk what channels you are watching. It's all over and a terrible consequence of the algorithm and human psychology
@@P4wnyhofnah. It’ll always be known as Shako. Harlequin Crest is literally the base for Shako. I don’t know why they just didn’t call it Shako in D4… makes no sense. They got Grandfather D2 but if they did the same thing with Harlequin Crest then Grandfather should be called Colossus Sword.. which is the base sword for Grandfather.. very weird indeed.
Idk about mandatory. You can get your fury other ways but I have one with masterworked orange crit chance and it's pretty boss. For defense it's kinda nice paired with the passive that heals as you spend because it rewards you for extra spam.
You keep looking at shit only from the perspective of copying the most optimized build on the most meta class. For something like doombringer, if you're running a rogue or bard where you have 4 weapon slots, it could definitely be worth it up until final optimizations to give up one small offensive aspect for a huge amount of survivability from a weapon slot. I was using doombringer on my rogue for quite a bit until I got to turbo high pit tiers.
Thing is you literally don't want it and rather would turn it into a spark for another mythic this season And yes a seasonal look encompasses the meta choices
@P4wnyhof eh I never sparked mine even when I was still hunting for shroud. Like i said it was really useful on the path to optimizing. Its definitely not a must have like Heir, Shako, or Shroud, but i think it's still worth keeping along with starless and tyriels for off builds,alts, or just as a good item until survival final optimization. This as opposed to Spear, melted heart, amd pretty much all the rest which i 100% agree are only good for a spark.
Idk I was using a grandfather to move from t3 to t4 but that was severely holding me back...once I switched to polearm I was killing way faster and that tells me that the GF was a trap all along. Still glad it dropped and I got to play with it for a bit
Thumbnail culture has gotten pretty rough. There's this old dude SamyCaps that covers arpgs that is doing the Gez Z thumbnail faces and it's just....well, I laughed.
My first 2 mythics that dropped were doombringers… luckily they provided the sparks for the crate that had a shroud of false death
😂 you got robbed - at least you got 2 sparks easy
Got a shroud yesterday on T2 from Lord Zir. Couldn't believe it.
Let's gooooo!!!!
@@P4wnyhofthank you very much, and Varshan was so kind to give me the Shako and a Grandfather today 😊
Imagine getting 5 Melted Hearts of Selig via the random mythic craft with 2 sparks.
Worst RNG in all D4 seasons so far ffs
2 for me out of my 4 sparks lol total of 3 seligs and doomB twice hahahaha
Sheesh I'm sry friend
@alexbarcan4705 my first 4 mythics were all doombringers. I share your pain
Was able to get 3 melted hearts and one of them got 3GA lmao
Whoever approved the two they added last season should be fired.
It actually wasn't bad for SB, but the RoK + overpower benefit from bugs rendered everything else unworthy of even trying
I wish they where good and could lead to an s-tier build!
I bet it was Adam Jackson.
Harder to find a 3ga ancestral than it is to find an uber
@@P4wnyhof No need for every unique to be S-tier. Tyrael's is a very good place for a unique tbh. Has insane value with and a nice, but not game breaking effect. My first crafted one was the Vow spear thing. That was also my 2. crafted one, ofcourse...
me and a friend have been doing boss summons, exactly the same amount of summons together. he has gotten 4 mythics. i have 0
I’ve had this same issue! 300 duriel runs my friend has gotten 11 mythic that were salvaged and 3 more kept. I have had 0 drop the entire time
I think shroud is s tier, but some other ubers like heir of perdition for necro, or starless for sorc builds could be very valuable. I think it depends sometimes on the build and character. It’s very subjective sometimes.
This is a Seasonal view sir and this season starless is simply not needed
SS can still roll higher crit chance & attack speed than ancestral rings. Further, DT rogue benefits from the core skills range via Scoundrels leathers. F tier seems excessive
Best speed farm builds use starless tho@@P4wnyhof
Grandfather doesn't even get a mention anymore :D
y es el primero que me cae, el grandfathee 😂😂😂
I dropped a Tyrael and Grandfather in T3 as a earthquake barb and I did actually use them both for awhile but man they don't really take you much past pit 65.
@@pokermitten9795I’m going pit 100 with grandfather
I am doing bosses runs with my necro and I got 4 doombringer before I finally got one shroud of the false death. And no crafting one is not an option because BAC runes are so damn rare to find.
the exact same for me. 4 doombringers on first day of mythic farming and I gave up. Came back the next day and dropped a shroud of false death, thankfully. rng my ass
Paragon 200 so far and haven’t found one BAC yet. Agree
@@ANDREWJACKSONTUBEhow u farm myths?
@@dionrobison8516 runecrafting. You should get some.. but indeed getting all of them is a long grind.
@@dionrobison8516 paragon 242, still no Bac
Andariel's Visage needs an additional damage multiplier (poison damage or damage to poisoned). It's actually a fun item.
Season 5, that helm made for a killer Barrage Rogue.
It was good til they nerfed it, meanwhile all other mythics are the same. Blizzard is just bad at balance altogether.
I got a Starless Skies very early as a lucky drop in witch tides and was happy until I realized none of the builds I was wanting to play use it.
Robbed :D!
If you are using a Blood Surge build to speedfarm, that Doombringer might be some use to you! :)
im running a hyper poison rogue build and andy's is king in it!!! i definitely wish it had a damage helper instead of life on hit like damage to poisoned enemies or something!
Hey, thanks for the video. Quick question about andariels. Since minions lucky hit now, shouldn't it produce some crazy build with fists of fate getting up to 90% lucky hit?
Your video offended my blood spear build which uses the doombringer and starless skies
Unfortunately the pants aren't working properly though
I would have included them if the build was working properly :X!
First two mythics for my barb this season, perdition and shroud, i was like "hmm guess im making rogue next"
Thanks for the list. Is damage reduction multiplicative? So, two 20% would be 36% less instead of 40%?
Its multiplicative with diminishing retuns - You get less and less for more and more :D
Crafted a shroud by trading for 6 bac runes... it's insane they are selling for over 600 mil per rune now...
Yes sir it is mental
I rly liked the idea that chest just was an deff slot
My first 2 mythic drops were both harlaquin then I got a shroud then a heir lol
Fuck at some point I got a ring of starless skies and doombringer and one other one I don't rember
My alt sorceress got a greater affix shroud from Varshawn in T1, I had no idea it was best gear. I feel lucky special!
I got a 4 star perdition which i putted on my necromancer with tripple critical chance affixe bonus but i prefer my rogue so would it be better than the current unique used on an arrow rain rogue ? And would i need to change the affixe bonus even if i got supper lucky with the tripple bonus ? 😊
I found a 4GA perdition last season for my necro I was hyped lol.
After 100 runs on the bosses as Sorc , I got 2 Mythics - Doombringer and The Sorc Staff (the most useless item that has ever been).... RNJesus hates me.
I gotta tyraels might early on and it was instant tier4 survivability.
Oh man just got a 4ga doombringer, i guess i'll swap to bone spear and pray for a patch
my first mythic this season was a doomy the only toon that i used it on was my dancing blade rogue... and well lol my barb for a bit.. my druid, sorc, and necro is ultimate this season... false death and shako hands down.. (again they dont need the mythics but its nice)
Last season I got 2 melted hearts, 3 of the crap battlestaff, 3 shrouds through crafting...all duplicates
I use doombringer on my sorceress for the extra survivability. Yes you lose some damage but it's better than getting one shot and in general dying a lot on T4. The extra life and damage reduction are a noticeable difference. Other than that mythic uniques are not extremely rare and you will get some by doing tormented bosses even in T3. But as the video suggests mythic unique does not automatically mean good.
Playing doombringer with triple hit on ga life %. Does more damage than a 2 hander. Druid catacylsm. Ive tried swapping back to a ga 2 handed mace but doombringer is outperform8ng. Is it a doombringer with ga on life AND a triple masterwork on life the exception?
For cataclysm is can actually work in case you got the masterwork and the tripple! (which is crazy because shroud just has to exist)
Posted a question on your season 7 minions build video
Maybe they need to start thinking about mythic aspects or tempers. Just feels like shroud, shako and perdition are the only ones actually useable this season. SS is okay too on barb, but the rest are so niche… and blizz is most definitely aware (drop rates seem low on the most popular ones).
You missed The Grandfather, very useful item for my Barb with 429 to all stats opens all bonuses in my paragon board.
For earthquake I got a massive dps boost when I switched to a single GA pole arm for my WW. I dropped GF in t3 and used it quite a bit.
noooo haha my first mythic the doombringer. I went over to the dude and just destroyed it. Hey it's got a nice transmog though haha.
Shroud of false death and Harlequins Crest dropped for me, yay
Thats good to know it actually can drop now! Last season it could only be crafted.
I got Selig and Doombringer. Isnt Doombringer needed for Bone Spear? Regardless. I only have the runes right now for Shako.
I do have a ton of boss mats and about 100 runs (not a joke) of Varhsan to do.
The Bone Spear build is bugged and works perfectly fine without - I recon it would work better with the mythic chest!
@@P4wnyhof doesn't Tuesdays patch fix Bone Spear?
Which Pit leaderboard is he using?
I got lucky and looted a 3GA crest.... only one it it didn't hit was the CDR :/
im new to d4. i started towards the end of s6. so my barb in s6 is eternal now (150s paragon). since then i havent come across even an ansestral lvl 1 legendary. i use to get one at least every other play. do eternal characters just not run intp good gear?
R u in the Torment difficulties?
@@subzero308 yep just started t3. little underpowered in it but i melt most things in t2
Hi, P4wny!! I'm a D3 player, but I had to stop by.
Every mythic should be as good as the shroud
How can there be a mythic tier list? They either enable or enhance a build or they don't. That has nothing to do with how good they are or not.
I don’t think they are very build enabling this season just absolute buffs
Sir the usefulness of these mythics change per season - since different builds will dominate and profit from different supports
I’ve had 3 mythics drop, 2x shroud, and shako
they need to make a 2H Mace/Hammer Unique c:
Sad we look at leaderboards for the season like I get it but if people were self taught on a spiritual journey all mythics are viable cause of the witch abilities but shroud is busted for sure its a hyper item.
Off topic, i know adam jackson is a lose for blizzard, but if he was doing class balance, he did not do the best job or am i wrong??
Can eney 1 help me I can not refund my tree points and I keep getting immortal mobs just keep resurrecting
i use the grandfather on blood wave necro because i want to and i like it.
dont @ me.
Hi, you forgot one 'The Grandfather'
i call the shroud “the john cena tshirt” because i cant see the person wearing it 🙃
The 2nd day on t3 I’ve got 2 ga shroud and 2ga harlequin. Lucky? - I don’t think so :)
EASY SIR - I still don't have one -.-
You say just disenchant and craft but with runes that’s impossible. Crafting mythics is so bad
Why is it impossible to you?
The Best Way to do it: Runes from Undercity
New Bone Spear uses Doom Bringer in all variations..
New bone spear is super bugged and everyone plays blood wave 👍
@P4wnyhof you assume way too much blood wave is clunky and not fun. Everyone in my guild dropped BW and went back to BS as even if it is not as good as BW it's not clunky and it's more fun.
Doombringer is good for cosmetic purposes lol.
They should only have around 4 Mythics in the game and make them desirable with good effects and a big power boost. A lot of the mythics in the game are trash.
Tier list w/o all tiers, gf is still in game also.
I would watch your videos more if you didn't have the crazy face in the thumbnails. But I get that maybe it's what you've got to do to promote it to new viewers.
I am with you....but if you aren't seeing these faces...idk what channels you are watching. It's all over and a terrible consequence of the algorithm and human psychology
First time I heard someone calling shako / harle a crest 😅
No offense but it is the name of the item :) And 80% of diablo players are not hardcore old timers - They don't know what a shako is
@@P4wnyhofnah. It’ll always be known as Shako. Harlequin Crest is literally the base for Shako. I don’t know why they just didn’t call it Shako in D4… makes no sense. They got Grandfather D2 but if they did the same thing with Harlequin Crest then Grandfather should be called Colossus Sword.. which is the base sword for Grandfather.. very weird indeed.
@laboom60 you are wrong. Shako is the base and Crest is the name. Wtf are you on dude
Not even dropped once😭
Doombringer and Tyriels might seem to drop more often then the others it's always the ones you get the most of and both are pretty trash
3 tyraels for me this season
This is not right in regards to ring of starless skies. It is almost mandatory for earthquake barb esp with whirlwind.
Idk about mandatory. You can get your fury other ways but I have one with masterworked orange crit chance and it's pretty boss.
For defense it's kinda nice paired with the passive that heals as you spend because it rewards you for extra spam.
You keep looking at shit only from the perspective of copying the most optimized build on the most meta class. For something like doombringer, if you're running a rogue or bard where you have 4 weapon slots, it could definitely be worth it up until final optimizations to give up one small offensive aspect for a huge amount of survivability from a weapon slot. I was using doombringer on my rogue for quite a bit until I got to turbo high pit tiers.
Thing is you literally don't want it and rather would turn it into a spark for another mythic this season
And yes a seasonal look encompasses the meta choices
@P4wnyhof eh I never sparked mine even when I was still hunting for shroud. Like i said it was really useful on the path to optimizing. Its definitely not a must have like Heir, Shako, or Shroud, but i think it's still worth keeping along with starless and tyriels for off builds,alts, or just as a good item until survival final optimization. This as opposed to Spear, melted heart, amd pretty much all the rest which i 100% agree are only good for a spark.
Idk I was using a grandfather to move from t3 to t4 but that was severely holding me back...once I switched to polearm I was killing way faster and that tells me that the GF was a trap all along.
Still glad it dropped and I got to play with it for a bit
im sorry to tell you this but your thumbnails are giving me cancer
Good luck with the treatment! Hope you got health insurance
@@P4wnyhoftranslation: "hope you're not American!" 😂
@@P4wnyhof In this economy?! no way dude
Thumbnail culture has gotten pretty rough. There's this old dude SamyCaps that covers arpgs that is doing the Gez Z thumbnail faces and it's just....well, I laughed.
I disagree with the pronouncing of tyreals might!
ITS HARD TO PRONOUNCE SIR!
@P4wnyhof it's like a tear when you cry. Tear-E-al
D4 F Tier confirmed
Let me fire up my one click poe 2 char and have some peak gaming. At least in d4 I have to use more than one button
Howdy🫡
Howdy Mig!
@@P4wnyhof I can’t tell if the other guy beat me but I’m gonna say my streak is still going bc I clicked the notification immediately lol
Morning and thank you for the content , 😊(edit writing half asleep on a Sunday morning 🤣
@@SonOfJustice ??
They need to start removing mythics, not adding more.
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Welcome keandresimon!
I actually dont give a fuck about this list because ive gotten 2 uber drops over 250 boss kills and they were BOTH the melted heart of ASS
Where is the part two of the endgame monk build🥲