Megan Racing 2.25" Mid-Pipe (MIDPIPE-STC11) Install / Review (Scion tC2 / tC2.5)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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Installing a 2.25" mid-pipe from Megan Racing, a quick rev from behind the car, and my thoughts after driving around for a day along with the sound of my exhaust from inside the car with the windows down. After the review, I did bring the mid-pipe a shop, but none of the shops near me that were open when I wasn't at work had the proper equipment to weld stainless steel. I ended up removing and selling it. It actually sounds great with a stock manifold, but too loud and raspy with a header, even one with a high flow cat.
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ALL of you're problems are due to you're aftermarket headers... the drone sound and vibrating raspy sounds you are hearing are all coming from those aftermarket headers. DO NOT buy aftermarket headers for this car. The car actually comes with headers that work perfectly fine.
You mentioned getting a Vibrant resonator to fix this... that will absolutely work and fix the raspiness however, if you put you're OEM headers back in, it will go away. Based on what you told me in regards to what you prefer soundwise... you should consider the following:
OEM Headers --- Stock S-Pipe --- Megan Mid-Pipes --- Megan Axle back
The megan axle back exhaust is not loud or obnoxious and pairs nicely with the midpipes... i can tell you right now, no matter who says otherwise, that replacing headers or s-pipe does absolutely NOTHING for performance... even aftermarket headers still fit into the stock system so nothing is wider and there is no more airflow. Swapping out any piece of the Scion TC2 exhaust system to gain performance is as useless as a screen door on a submarine.
The reason i know so much about this is because i had a similar setup until I parked it in a garage where some idiot joy rided it over the bumps and literally broke and bent a piece of the s pipe which wound up bending the entire system slightly to where replacing just one piece caused everything else not to fit. So I basically bought everything all over. But i decided to put my oem headers and spipe back on to save money. Then i bought megan mids and axle back... ZERO rasp and for the most part, it sounds almost exactly like if you were to buy the car with JUST a TRD axle back... which is a lot better sounding than stock but not in any way loud enough to annoy anyone.
for those of you who want a louder sound... all you have to do is install the megan mid pipes and then pair it with an exhaust that has a slim muffler... the megan muffler is big and acts as a resonator so something like the borla is better... I can tell you now that the megan midpipes with the trd axle back sound excellent... but the trd is expensive. in any case, if you put back ur oem headers and spipe... you would not need to go to the muffler shop... and you would love the way it sounds...
i hope this helps at least one person... and rem, if you are buying any part of the exhaust for performance gains on a scion tc... it will have the same effect as a helicopter ejection seat. Do not replace ur headers unless you want ur car to drone, vibrate and sound raspy.
Oh, I know it's because of using the header in conjunction with a larger mid-pipe. I've been recommending doing either the header or the mid-pipe, but not both unless you want that awful noise. I'm actually quite happy with my header and stock mid-pipe setup, but I know others are happier with the setup you speak of. To each their own though.
JiT NyC you know how to make a Scion tC crackle n pop w/put a catless header
@@TheBasketball987 I get a little crackle and popping when I let off the gas with my Dezod Green header.
JiT NyC What do you think about an axelback and resonator delete? Do you think the Megan racing mid pipe is worth it over that?
Was literally about to say the same thing. No offence to Derrik although his car in this video sounds like shit. Really awful raspy, tinny sound.
Good luck, hopefully the shop can come up with something that works well for you. Had a CNT midpipe paired with the Borla axleback. The sound was definitely loud and wasn't something I minded too much but couldn't say the same for my little toddler who made it clear to me that it drove her nuts hence ended up taking it off :). Sticking with just the Borla and s-pipe for now.
I'm hoping a better resonator or even adding a high flow cat will fix the sound.
I got the same color car like yours an I love mine 2
Would this fit on my tc1? Any other options I can fit on my tc1 so I don't sound like a fart can?
Hey man, I have a TRD axle back, wondering if the mid pipe will be overly loud?? Everything else stock. Not looking for rasp.
As long as you still have the factory header, you should be fine.
Probably already mentioned, but I'm thinking of going with a CNT Axle Back ('13 TC) AND CNT mid-pipe, with stock header. Will this give it a throaty deep-ish sound, instead of a "raspy" or high pitch fart-can sound?
The other alternative is purchasing the CNT Axle Back alone, and keeping everything oem, but still trying to avoid the "raspy" sound.
And thanks, I enjoy your videos dude.
Items mentioned:
CNT Exhaust
www.ebay.com/itm/CNT-Racing-2-5-Axle-Back-Exhaust-System-w-Blue-Tip-for-Scion-TC-2011-15/282586332286
CNT Mid-pipe:
www.cntracing.com/products/cnt-racing-scion-tc-2011-2015-stainless-mid-pipe?variant=54146433068
Again, thanks for producing these videos for those that need a bit of understanding and guidance.
I believe you should be fine as long as you keep the stock manifold in place.
Thanks man. I think for now I'll purchase the CNT axle back, drive and listen to how it sounds, and then will decide on the mid-pipe from there.
after a long wait i managed to get mine on back order and installed about a month ago and i love it
Where did you buy yours?
@@anthonypasquale9970 I bought it off Vividracing but it took 6 1/2 months 😔😂
@@JayTc2 ever time I try to order it it just gives me an error lol 😂 I think I’m just gunna look for a used one
When I ordered mine they called and said it was out of stock so I got a refund and then I randomly got it in the mail after a week
Derrick,
What was your final set up?
I want a low baritone sound but, I can't take the loud noise during acceleration, especially in the city. I'm not trying to be a racer or a river!
I think I like the sound of the dual exhaust on the Series 10. I've only heard it from start up. Any advice?
My current setup is the Dezod Green header and Greddy RS Revolution Catback Exhaust. You can hear it at ruclips.net/video/aNw5E6gM1JQ/видео.html. If you don't want loud but want something that sounds good, start with the Borla exhast. Then either add a 2.25" midpipe (no larger for this setup) or a header, but not both or it will be loud.
i actually run almost the same set up, i had cnt header, cnt downpipe and midpipe and borla axle back and it sounds awful, and the reason because of the header so i took the header out after a day of installing it on and it sounds a lot better
I would rather have the header installed than the mid pipe I had to choose one over the other. I'm hoping I'll be able to keep both though.
Derrick
I still have the stock header with the Megan racing muffler, it doesn’t sound to loud , but I have been thinking to get the same Megan racing mid pipe that you have on yours,,, Do you think if I get the same midpipe that you have and leave the same stock header ,, it won’t be too loud ?
Thanks
If you keep the factory header, I don't think it'll be that much louder.
@@VampyreX13 thanks
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Hi Derrick, thanks for the great video. I learned a lot from it. I have a 2011 Scion tC (automatic), completely stock, and would like to make it sound better. I don't care much about performance, the goal here is nice, deep sound (not raspy and not obnoxiously loud either)
I definitely want the Megan mid pipe, but I don't know if I should go with Megan or Borla axle-back (TRD out of budget - well, unless you think it's REALLY worth it - I heard it's almost the same as Borla (?)).
Also, not sure if I should get an S-pipe, is it worth it, or will it be too loud? The only one I can find currently available is the CNT, though I'm also trying to find the Megan. Which one would be better? Is there any difference between the two?
Finally I think I should keep stock header.
I would greatly appreciate any input!
Keep your stock header and get a Borla. I loved mine when I had it. It's currently on the black tC you see in some of my videos. Wait until you get the midpipe and axel-back before thinking about an s-pipe.
@@VampyreX13 Thanks for your reply! I'll definitely start with the Borla axle back
Just ordered the midpipe, gonna be paired with cnt s pipe and borla axle back. Hopefully it sounds good lol
Should be fine I think. It's only when you add in a header that it gets a bit too loud.
Yea I ordered mine from vivid racing , has been awhile since i get an email so i called today,,and they called megan racing, i put my order in march 1st, they are delayed on production, said i will get it by MAY fml lol just gonna sit here and wait 😅
@@pavelt8594 hahaha the same exact thing happened to me so I just asked for my money back and bought the drift spec instead off ebay :(
@@915pablo6 yea man im like fuck it im allready 28 days in waiting for it might as well just wait for it, i like that its the same diameter of my borla 2.25". At least they told me im in the first batch of orders going out, they said when the stimulas hit they sold out of alot shit. A little bogus they took my money and didn't even say it was back order. I can't complain tho it is a 8 year old part i ordered, should be happy they still make it. Post a video of the new mid pipe when you get bro im totally interested to here what it sounds like 😎
@@pavelt8594 For real, and I was hoping the drift spec used the same midpipe as the one you bought but the fitment wouldn’t let me keep the borla so I’m just running the whole dift spec cat back. I’ll post a vid soon
So far magan produces rasp on all cars , very rear does it sound good , I wouldn't trust the others as well . If the shop has something that looks less glamorous but they say is guaranteed to do the job use that . Normally where I live they know what they're doing.
Sometimes custom is the way to go. If you have one built, I hightly recommend using Vibrant Ultra Quiet resonator(s) as part of your build per ruclips.net/video/GTwQuq8ER-Q/видео.html.
@@VampyreX13 doing a step up on the pipe can also add a lil meat to your setup eg 2" into a 2.5 or 3" all the way out with a resonator somewhere in there can make any car sound good
You also don't want to go to large as you can affect exhaust velocity if it's not properly sized for your engine. I find it's best to try to maintain a consistent diameter for optimal flow. I currently run 2.5" header back.
@@VampyreX13 I understand that, might just be special to my car as I have vtec but I use 2inch to a resonator into 2" till the rear lcas (lower control arms) where it goes up to 2.5 I plan to put a foot of 3" to add a bit more boom when I'm running high in the rpms ...Still on stock header and intake box , I sould note that it sounds good enough that I get everything on my ass when I take a lil sprint on the highway to and from work , I'm talking from other hondas to r35s and more.
Get rid of the Borla muffler and get Meghan Racing. I hha ve an 06 TC with Meghan Racing S-Pipe back and it sound throaty no raspy.
Any idea where I can find the midpipe today?
I would go on Megan Racing's website and get their number and call them directly. That's what I did when I was trying to find it.
Finally getting my megan racing midpipe in tomorrow it'll be paired with flowmaster force ii axleback and dezod red header #becauseracecar
Post up a video once you get it installed.
Only difference between your setup and mine is I have flowmaster axleback and dezod red header I have agency power downpipe also
Hello,
I don’t know if you’ll see this but I have a 2012 Scion tC and what I have right now on is just the Borla axle back. It’s sounds nice and all but it’s pretty quite. What would you recommend me to add to get more growl for my car and less rasp. Everything on the car is stock excluding the Borla axle back with no rasp.
Since the Dezod Green header is no longer made, you're only real route for more sound with no rasp is to upgrade the midpipe and / or s-pipe.
Derrick I was wonder how much were you quoted for at the shop? Im also looking for a Megan racing midpipes (2.25) looks like they not producing anymore. Last resort is a custom midpipes.
Edit, Looks like you sold this set up and got a greddy full catback which is 2.5 piping i believe? did you lose torque on the lower end?
Just a little, but then I got a tuned ECU from snp_reflash and that helped out a lot.
I’m kinda late on this but I just got the Megan racing mid pipe and paired it with the borla rear exhaust. When the car is on idle it sounds nice but when Under acceleration the car it starts sounding like a weed wacker which is horrible. Did I install the mid pipe wrong? Because I am not hearing that nice throaty noise people are talking about.
I was not impressed by this mid-pipe at all. The metal seemed thin if I recall. It resonated a lot giving a tinny metallic noise. Coupled it a header, it was very loud.
Quick question what about the speed sensor
I'm not sure what you're asking? The speed sensor plays no role in replacing the exhaust piping.
I’ve trying to get this part for my tc 2014 but I can find it. Will you be able to sent me link for that part or website. Please
Derrick I know this video is a little old now and i'm not sure if you'll see this comment but i was wondering if you had the stock muffler on the car from the axle back prior to installing the mid pipe or if you had an axle back exhaust on before previously installing the mid pipe. Thank you.
I already had an axel back exhaust, header, and s-pipe prior to installing the mid pipe.
I wonder how loud it would be without the aftermarket header.....
From some of the comments I've read, putting the stock manifold back in quiets the exhaust up a lot. The header in conjunction with the mid pipe is why it's so loud. The s- pipe probably doesn't help with that either.
It wouldn't be louder, but it would do away with the wet fart raspy sound...
The header and s pipe, for the scion tc at least, have no contribution to sound or even performance... I'm sure some people would disagree but that's prob cause they just wanna justify their purchase just like i did. Luckily for me, as told in my reply, some guy in garage broke my exhaust... My setup was...
New headers, bigger spipe, Megan mids with vibrant resonator, and trd axle back.. The vibrant resonator was installed cause the headers made my car sound like a ricer.
I put oem headers and spipe back... Then installed Megan mids again and then bought some cheap axle back exhaust on eBay for 90bux... My car sounds great and it growls like it's a bad ass but i know its a freaking toy... Its all good. The only piece that matters for sound is the axle back.. If u want performance, trade it in for something else lol...
@@jitnyc So I currently have stock headers, stock midpipes and a trd axle back. Do you think the Megan midpipes would create a better sound?
does it throw a CEL when installed?
No. The CEL is thrown when you replace the header since that's where the primary cat is.
@@VampyreX13 thanks again bro, she’s coming together nicely🙏🏼
Hey Derrick, I have an issue removing my axle back because the bolts between the axle back and the mid pipe are rusted, do you have any idea how to remove them easily? I have a 2014 tC
Soak with PB blast for a couple hours and keep applying it every 20 or 30 minutes, then try again with a breaker bar. If that fails, blowtorch the bolts.
I like the sound, but it hangs a little lower than the stock pipe and it hits damn near every speedbump. I'm sure this wouldn't normally be a problem if you're on stock suspension
You could always get polyurethane exhaust hangers. That will help prevent it from sagging. I had to do that on a friend's car because the piping hung so low.
@@VampyreX13 Eh, about to sell him anyway. So, on a totally unrelated topic, wanna by a second-gen TC?
@@EvilJ069 I already have three cars and barely any driveway space. LOL.
Whats up dawg!! So im buying a megan mid pipe 2.25" for my 2013 Scion TC , i have a Borla 2.25" Axle Back and stock headers and stock S pipe. You think it will be raspy or Drone cruising around town? Its an Automatic. Thanks! Love your videos 😎
You should be fine. It's the lack of cat from installing a header that causes the rasp.
Thanks for the ridiculous fast response time hahaha Legendary!!
Quick Question: did you use a CEL eliminator when installing your S-pipe? Will a CEL always come one when changing the S-pipe?
No, there is no reason a CEL should come on if you are only changing the s-pipe. You only need a CEL eliminator if you are changing the header with one that doesn't have a cat on it, which are all headers except the Dezod Green.
If I had that I would cut off the Rez and weld a by pass pipe
Derrick did your kit come with washers for the bolts and nuts
No washers.
there is a cat in the midpipe next to the resonator correct? if i take it off and replace it with those pipes will it still pass smog or cause a check engine light?
Fq842 Chick, as long as they do the emissions check by only connecting to your OBDII port, you will pass. The cat on the midpipe is the secondary cat and removing it will not trigger the check engine light.
Does removing the secondary cat cause a check engine light?
No. Just the primary one in the manifold.
Does this midpipe erase one of the catalytic converters? And would this pass emissions?
It will remove the secondary catalytic converter. As long as you don't remove the primary cat by installing a catless header, you should pass emissions via the ODBII scanner.
How much louder does it really make it because I have the borla axle back and that's it and it isn't loud at all so I wanted to buy the mid pipe to add some sound
It made it pretty loud, but I also have a header and s pipe. I still have it, but I'm selling it since it was too loud for in combination with all my parts.
Derrick Aquino u still selling it ?
Where did you get the front license plate mount and for how much???
Amadeo Trujillo, you can get a kit for $35 from acarguysgarage.com/product-category/relocation-rods/ . I only have the rod from them as I got the plate from a wrecked tC.
Would the Megan midpipe work with trd exhaust?
Yes.
should I use this with the stock headers and muffler ? I was thinking because I don't need it too loud
At least with the stock header. You could probably put an axle back on this and it won't be too bad.
@@VampyreX13 I'll try with just mid-pipe Muna. I got the AEM electric intake well shall see how it all goes.
@@davidbeauvais1364 It's always good to add each piece one at a time so you can see how it affects the car. I hope it sounds the way you want it to.
I need the two spring loaded bolts helllp
Like amzn.to/45knV2o for bolting to the factory header?
@@VampyreX13 no the one we’re the Midpipe starts
@@VampyreX13we’re a pipe meets secondary cat first part of Megan racing Midpipe
@@maxxiidabeast1080 so you'll want something like amzn.to/47lmySN plus some stainless steel nuts for the end.
@@VampyreX13 yes I’m pretty sure that’s almost the same thing as I sent just taken apart I already bought it hopefully it fits
This should work fine with my borla axle back s type exhaust? I have a 15 scion tc
Yes. If you have a header, it might be too loud, but if you have a stock manifold, it should be fine.
@@VampyreX13 now will this megan racing midpipe make me throw a check engine code?
@@EquilibriumGTI no. That only happens when you change your exhaust manifold. There are no sensors past the midpipe.
I need the rear gasket
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Thank you
@@VampyreX13it’s still has exhaust leak 😭
@maxxiidabeast1080 if you have a gap that's causing an exhaust leak even with a new gasket, then you need to figure out why the two pipes aren't mating up flush and fix that. If you can't get that fixed, then the other option is to use a 2.25" Remflex gasket ( amzn.to/4aKraUf). I have a video showing how I installed a 2.5" one on my exhaust at ruclips.net/video/iHqeVdxplQs/видео.html.
Where did you end up ordering from? I still cant find any megan midpipes for my 2015.
Jayson Smith the link is at the bottom of the video description. The 2011-2016 tCs all use the same performance parts.
thats awesome! thank you! how long did it take for you to get it?
Jayson Smith a little more than a week after I confirmed they had them in stock.
I did that with my srs
I also still have the stock header as well though
Once you install a header, it will get real loud.
Nice man
do you think that the Megan mid pipe it’s going to sound good with the stock Scion tC axle back?
I think it should fine.
@@VampyreX13 would it be loud?
@@yooitskevin_3181 if you still have the factory header and muffler, then no it shouldn't be very loud.
@@VampyreX13 does it come with the bolts and clamps? The things u need in order to install it??
@@yooitskevin_3181 yes. It has all the bolts and gaskets.
I just purchased this modpipe for my 2013 tc with TRD exhaust. If I add a megan racing s pipe and short ram intake. Keeping stock exhaust manifold i shouldn't get any rasp correct?
Correct. Rasp occurs once you get rid of the cat in the stock header.
Where did you buy it from? I try looking for it on several sites but nothing
Call Megan directly and inquire on the production status. Everywhere that sells it will have it drop shipped directly from Megan.
@@dankjoe0072 I bought it from vividracing but had to wait like 3 months
@@JexuanyGuerrero I just bought it from vividracing like a few weeks ago but they cancelled on me due to not having any in stock ._. idk how you got it but won't sell it to me. Hopefully calling Megan would help me get it
Hey Derrick, how long did it take THMotors to send you thr Mid pipe?
I got it in around a week if I recall. They had it drop shipped directly from Megan Motorsports.
Derrick Aquino Thanks for replying back. Here's the thing they are expecting to wait a month from now to get the mid pipe. After I waited a week like they promised it will ship. I was really excited for it to come in to.
Kenta Dubs/Plays I've been really happy with THMotorsports customer service and prices. If there's a delay with getting the mid-pipe it's resting on Megan Motorsports' shoulders.
Derrick Aquino yeah your right I've should have kept that in mind. Hey thanks for the replies it means alot coming from my favorite content creator for the tc2.5. Keep up the hard work. Looking forward to your next upgrade.
Hey bro quick question, my car is
Completely stock and I wanted to either buy a borla exhaust or keep the exhaust stock and just get this mid pipe which do you think would be better? I want it to sound a bit more louder and clean
I had a header and the Borla exhaust in this video and I was really unhappy with mid-pipe, but most likely it was because of the combination with the header. I've read other people liked how this mid-pipe sounded with the stock manifold and an axel back exhaust, but that is subjective. You can hear my old Borla exhaust with the stock mid-pipe and manifold at the end of my video at ruclips.net/video/ii9Uhje3iVo/видео.html.
Derrick Aquino thanks for the reply! I think i am going with the borla exhaust
When you installed your Dezod header, how many lbs did you torque down all the bolts to at the engine side and exhaust side?
StrikeBlaze, 26 ft/lbs at the head starting with the bottom middle, then upper left, upper right, bottom left, and finally bottom right nut. I don't remember how much at that s-pipe flange. I think maybe 29 ft/lbs.
Derrick Aquino
Sweet thank you! I was looking through a lot of guides and saw many different answers. I am about to install Dezod's Red headers. Im just waiting on the CEL eliminator and the custom donut gasket that they have.
StrikeBlaze, you're very welcome.