I am the poster child of walking away and believing I lost my salvation. I can tell you I never lost it because God showed up Sept 25th 2011 and told me He loved me. It was a miserable bunch of years believing I could not be with God.
This passage came to me when I was frantic and in a very bad predicament. I was literally struck to my core as if I had lost my eternal salvation and it has stuck with me for years. I have suffered the consequences of my trash decisions and learned some hard lessons in the process, even losing my family. Although I have heard similar "interpretations", the thorough and gentle manner that you presented here has reassured me NOT to continually worry about this in my walk with Christ. My heart has condemned me for over half my life over this and I can rest in Jesus that my genuine repentance and faith in Him really IS enough. I was saved in a fire and brimstone sermon and I am just now, as an adult, understanding Gods true nature and the immense love and mercy He has for us. He is as good and even better than we ever imagined. What a friggin awesome God He is. He really is the best King a man could ever ask for. That fear has led me here and I am so ready to turn the corner and move on to better things in Christ Jesus. Thank you Father.
An example of this case is Ravi Zacharias. I find comfort in this passage because so many so call pastors and leaders are so corrupt. I wouldn’t want to see them in heaven. I understand if people are manipulated and didn’t know better but these people know God, study His words, teach His words, but purposely lead others to sin. They use God’s words to glorify themselves. Romans chapter 11 talks about branches being cut off or graphed in. This talks of God’s kindness and severity. This ties in with “Lord Lord didn’t I do this and that in your name?” And God with say, “Get away, I never knew you.” Don’t mess with God.
Though I appreciated the understanding of his intent in the letter of Hebrews, there are several verses that make it clear. Slaves don’t have a choice, and we are slaves of righteousness. And no man can separate us from the love of God. However, I was really uncomfortable when you told us to not focus on the fruits of others. 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 explicitly commands us to judge fellow Christians by their fruits. We are to go to our brothers and sisters and lovingly lead them to repentence.
Kevin Rider - In verse 4-5 'enlightened' about something is not the same as 'accepting' it, 'tasted' something to see if you like it or not is not the same as partaking of it - think kids at the supper table, 'shared' is not the same as having it for yourself - I don't believe this is speaking of those that have been saved but only enlightened, tasting, sharing of it - like the land that has drunk the rain with two outcomes to accepting the confirmed Truth of the Apostle's teaching that is confirmed in the nourishment of what it grows or rejection and a substitute of the Truth that is not nourishing or useful in what it grows but causes punctures and tears in those around that come close to it.
Romans 11 say, “So do not become proud, but fear.” Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. There are two fears. Fear of God leads to life. Spirit of fear is not of God, for God did not give us a spirit of fear but of power, love, and discipline. 2Timothy 1.7 The second fear is a disabling fear, not of God.
Probably a better way of putting it is if you're born again and turn away and make yourself filthy again, you can not get reborn again. Mind you this is an extreme case of actively rejecting Christ, not simply talking about backsliding and repenting etc. That's how I would naturally think about answering that question
Someone please respond to my comment❤ I struggle with OCD (not about being tidy), OCD is doing repetitive motions connected with thoughts, to give some sort of comfort driven my anxiety. It started when I was a little girl. Anyway, I won’t spend time going into it other than to say it is a form of superstition that then results in habits. My point is…I am a Christian yet have this guilt of this OCD that I battle with. 🙏🏽
humbly ask Jesus to heal your mind. He can heal & deliver - He has done Miracles for me. Also read: Isai 6^10; Jer 3^22; compare Jer 17^9 with Ezek 36^26.
Salvation is eternal, ie it goes for eternity. We still need to finish the race and keep the faith though, as Paul said. There are multitudes of scriptures that warn us against being sloppy with the faith. Not to say it is so easily lost, but it can be. If you're interested I can provide you with probably about 20 clear passages that state this. If you've got your mind made up and don't want to know, I won't bother. If you would like to put up some passages to explain your view and have me answer them, I can. But what this man has said is very healthy and sobering. Remember, God is in eternity. He knows who are His, He knows who will remain faithful to Him and who will leave, we don't have that insight, therefore to assume once saved always saved and go on to teach it as a human perspective I believe is in error and unwise
God cant force you to be with him so you yourself can deny the faith even after being saved but no one can take it from yourself only you can decidce that
Taste means a temporary thing. Jesus tasted death, and he did die, but it was temporary. For this guys use of the verse to be valid, jesus must still be dead.
I am the poster child of walking away and believing I lost my salvation. I can tell you I never lost it because God showed up Sept 25th 2011 and told me He loved me. It was a miserable bunch of years believing I could not be with God.
AWESOME! This is an amazing teaching. Thank you Pastor Gary 🙏🐑🦁
Man, how I wish that Pastor Gary was my pastor. He is probably the best Bible teacher in the country today.
This passage came to me when I was frantic and in a very bad predicament. I was literally struck to my core as if I had lost my eternal salvation and it has stuck with me for years. I have suffered the consequences of my trash decisions and learned some hard lessons in the process, even losing my family. Although I have heard similar "interpretations", the thorough and gentle manner that you presented here has reassured me NOT to continually worry about this in my walk with Christ. My heart has condemned me for over half my life over this and I can rest in Jesus that my genuine repentance and faith in Him really IS enough. I was saved in a fire and brimstone sermon and I am just now, as an adult, understanding Gods true nature and the immense love and mercy He has for us. He is as good and even better than we ever imagined. What a friggin awesome God He is. He really is the best King a man could ever ask for. That fear has led me here and I am so ready to turn the corner and move on to better things in Christ Jesus. Thank you Father.
I have been searching for a comprehensive explanation on this passage for years. Appreciate the sermon Pastor G!
Loved this teaching, very much in line with a Calvary Chapel teaching I heard by Pastor Paul Leboutillier this morning. Very encouraging ….Thank you!
Doing exactly the same as you. Watched Ontario this morning 😊
Pastor Gary,you dont need to be my fruit /food inspector But I need you to be my teacher.
This Explanation Hit Home For Sure
May The God Bless You Brother In The Lord
Praise the Lord Jesus amen
Gary Hamrick great exposition.
Thank you Gary
It's difficult for me to share when I'm not even certain about my salvation. Please pray for me.
This is a great interpretation of some very difficult verses. Really enjoyed it 🙏
I’m in the same way. Not knowing if I’m saved :(
Thank you so so so much!!!!
Love this study
Brilliant: 34.47 - 35.55
Praise God and TQ Pastor Gary.
Well taught. Good stuff
Powerful and Enlightening 💞💞💞
An example of this case is Ravi Zacharias. I find comfort in this passage because so many so call pastors and leaders are so corrupt. I wouldn’t want to see them in heaven. I understand if people are manipulated and didn’t know better but these people know God, study His words, teach His words, but purposely lead others to sin. They use God’s words to glorify themselves. Romans chapter 11 talks about branches being cut off or graphed in. This talks of God’s kindness and severity. This ties in with “Lord Lord didn’t I do this and that in your name?” And God with say, “Get away, I never knew you.” Don’t mess with God.
Good job!
Amen and amen 🙏
Though I appreciated the understanding of his intent in the letter of Hebrews, there are several verses that make it clear. Slaves don’t have a choice, and we are slaves of righteousness. And no man can separate us from the love of God.
However, I was really uncomfortable when you told us to not focus on the fruits of others. 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 explicitly commands us to judge fellow Christians by their fruits. We are to go to our brothers and sisters and lovingly lead them to repentence.
Something abt the phrase, 'losing salvation.' "He who finds life will LOSE it," said Jesus.
But what about someone who is an apostate & then come back to faith?
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Being enlightened is different from really KNOWING, that is the difference between being saved or not.
Kevin Rider - In verse 4-5 'enlightened' about something is not the same as 'accepting' it, 'tasted' something to see if you like it or not is not the same as partaking of it - think kids at the supper table, 'shared' is not the same as having it for yourself - I don't believe this is speaking of those that have been saved but only enlightened, tasting, sharing of it - like the land that has drunk the rain with two outcomes to accepting the confirmed Truth of the Apostle's teaching that is confirmed in the nourishment of what it grows or rejection and a substitute of the Truth that is not nourishing or useful in what it grows but causes punctures and tears in those around that come close to it.
I am so fearful of hebrew4:64
Romans 11 say, “So do not become proud, but fear.” Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. There are two fears. Fear of God leads to life. Spirit of fear is not of God, for God did not give us a spirit of fear but of power, love, and discipline. 2Timothy 1.7 The second fear is a disabling fear, not of God.
My question is, if you're born again, can you become not born again?
Probably a better way of putting it is if you're born again and turn away and make yourself filthy again, you can not get reborn again. Mind you this is an extreme case of actively rejecting Christ, not simply talking about backsliding and repenting etc. That's how I would naturally think about answering that question
can a person who is born commit suicide?
Someone please respond to my comment❤ I struggle with OCD (not about being tidy), OCD is doing repetitive motions connected with thoughts, to give some sort of comfort driven my anxiety. It started when I was a little girl. Anyway, I won’t spend time going into it other than to say it is a form of superstition that then results in habits. My point is…I am a Christian yet have this guilt of this OCD that I battle with. 🙏🏽
God bless you ! Please find a pastor who you can speak with over the phone or in person. Pastors are very nice people and would love to help you 😥❤️✝️
humbly ask Jesus to heal your mind. He can heal & deliver - He has done Miracles for me.
Also read: Isai 6^10; Jer 3^22; compare Jer 17^9 with Ezek 36^26.
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Im afraid of hebrews6:46
You are denying what Christ has told us time and time and time again. Salvation is eternal.
And Jesus will never forsake us. Even if we left faith.
Salvation is eternal, ie it goes for eternity. We still need to finish the race and keep the faith though, as Paul said. There are multitudes of scriptures that warn us against being sloppy with the faith. Not to say it is so easily lost, but it can be.
If you're interested I can provide you with probably about 20 clear passages that state this. If you've got your mind made up and don't want to know, I won't bother. If you would like to put up some passages to explain your view and have me answer them, I can. But what this man has said is very healthy and sobering.
Remember, God is in eternity. He knows who are His, He knows who will remain faithful to Him and who will leave, we don't have that insight, therefore to assume once saved always saved and go on to teach it as a human perspective I believe is in error and unwise
God cant force you to be with him so you yourself can deny the faith even after being saved but no one can take it from yourself only you can decidce that
Taste means a temporary thing. Jesus tasted death, and he did die, but it was temporary. For this guys use of the verse to be valid, jesus must still be dead.