Never ever... work for free. Especially not in the artistic field. Even if it brings you new contacts and you hope for new commissions. At the end it starts to backfire... Especially in the creative field you still have the problem that the work is not really appreciated. Or to be more precise: Everyone wants to have your work, but don't want to pay for it.
I understand your point of view and know that this is a tough topic. In my experience it's ok at the right time and particularly if you are a student looking for work experience. There are other times but i think i will save that for another Blog post :)
Instead of saying "I'm doing this work for free", it might be better to say "I'm doing you a favor". So in return you ask them to do a favor for you ( by getting you in contact with other people for work ).
I just started freelance work a few months ago, I was in construction for 10 years until the company sold out to a company who just wanted the contracts and not really the employees. Now I'm chasing my dream of doing graphic design and eventually to end by creating my own video game. But yeah it's no joke the freelance world is hard to get into. Trying to get clients on fiver etc is just a nightmare then sites like Upwork want to charge you for connects, charge a fee from your pay then charge you again just to give you your money it's insane. Days like today I'm half tempted to just call up a janitorial company and go scrub toliets for 10$/hr
Agree free work is OK right time right place and right customer. Can be considered an investment and bring more business in the long run. Discount can be seen differently. some customers can think you inflate prices to make a discount. I personally would prefer rounding down but only some cases. Or The pay for 5 and get one free tactic.
I think it is better to work for free for a particular group of client like charity based or non-profit organizations rather than work for ridiculously cheap as it tends to make people misunderstand and think that is your price. It is easy to explain why you worked something for free than explaining why a client need to pay more unlike all the previous clients.
Getting Dredd vibes from "You look ready."! If I may ask Grant, what do you do if people renege on paying you? I'm finding this a real problem - most of my clients are from message boards, and I'd say 30% go back on our agreement and won't pay for work even if they're happy with it and agreed to pay X amount. I've actually had 50 hour projects where this happens. I'm almost wondering if I should draw up contracts to prevent this happening. Great videos anyway, thank you.
I looked at these sites once, saw each post inundated with 30-40 replies from people charging £120 for a good week's work and producing very professional results. One simply can't compete!
@Darren Munsell hi i know this is a year after but please, do not consider Philippines, internet is so slow, healthcare is shit and foreigners usually get scammed. I'm from the Philippines so I know, better choose Thailand.
That's an interesting question. I would say it is all down to the hours it will take you. To work that out break the project down into it's separate parts and you can even price for those on your invoice. that will guide your hours and your pricing
"are you ready".
But I already crawled in bed..
😃
Never ever... work for free. Especially not in the artistic field. Even if it brings you new contacts and you hope for new commissions. At the end it starts to backfire...
Especially in the creative field you still have the problem that the work is not really appreciated. Or to be more precise: Everyone wants to have your work, but don't want to pay for it.
I understand your point of view and know that this is a tough topic. In my experience it's ok at the right time and particularly if you are a student looking for work experience. There are other times but i think i will save that for another Blog post :)
I always appreciate hearing you on the business side of art. Thanks Grant.
Thanks
Instead of saying "I'm doing this work for free", it might be better to say "I'm doing you a favor".
So in return you ask them to do a favor for you ( by getting you in contact with other people for work ).
I just started freelance work a few months ago, I was in construction for 10 years until the company sold out to a company who just wanted the contracts and not really the employees. Now I'm chasing my dream of doing graphic design and eventually to end by creating my own video game. But yeah it's no joke the freelance world is hard to get into. Trying to get clients on fiver etc is just a nightmare then sites like Upwork want to charge you for connects, charge a fee from your pay then charge you again just to give you your money it's insane. Days like today I'm half tempted to just call up a janitorial company and go scrub toliets for 10$/hr
Discount Tactics is a smart idea. Thanks
:)
you're awesome Grant, the only one that tells the whole truth.
Agree free work is OK right time right place and right customer. Can be considered an investment and bring more business in the long run. Discount can be seen differently. some customers can think you inflate prices to make a discount. I personally would prefer rounding down but only some cases. Or The pay for 5 and get one free tactic.
I think it is better to work for free for a particular group of client like charity based or non-profit organizations rather than work for ridiculously cheap as it tends to make people misunderstand and think that is your price. It is easy to explain why you worked something for free than explaining why a client need to pay more unlike all the previous clients.
Yes indeed. 😃
big follower of u , u r a generous man
Freelance job tip nr. 1 (From a freelancer) be content with the little at the begining, otherwise you might not even start working as a freelancer lol
Very true
Getting Dredd vibes from "You look ready."!
If I may ask Grant, what do you do if people renege on paying you? I'm finding this a real problem - most of my clients are from message boards, and I'd say 30% go back on our agreement and won't pay for work even if they're happy with it and agreed to pay X amount. I've actually had 50 hour projects where this happens.
I'm almost wondering if I should draw up contracts to prevent this happening.
Great videos anyway, thank you.
You have to withhold the work until payment is recieved it's the only way
Great timing on this one as I just got asked if I would be willing to sell some of my models i had shared pictures of.
excellent to hear well done
Thank you
Legit vlog like always. 👍 Keep going
Thanks :)
You are my 1st teacher in blender
Tell that wall I'm on my way! 😎
:)
I looked at these sites once, saw each post inundated with 30-40 replies from people charging £120 for a good week's work and producing very professional results. One simply can't compete!
Yes true. I think that's why we have to make ourselves unique in some way to stand out from this crowd. Not always easy :(
@Darren Munsell hi i know this is a year after but please, do not consider Philippines, internet is so slow, healthcare is shit and foreigners usually get scammed. I'm from the Philippines so I know, better choose Thailand.
You're amazing! Yaaay
Thanks
I know you've talked about this before, but how would you categorize a project into "small, medium or big"?
That's an interesting question. I would say it is all down to the hours it will take you. To work that out break the project down into it's separate parts and you can even price for those on your invoice. that will guide your hours and your pricing
nice intro
can we see that fiver link
Yesss
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Thumbs up!
:)
where's the link to the competition?
Check out discord server link,it's in description
on my website and on the discord :)
@@grabbitt thanks!
But now blender is becoming more powerful 👌🏻👌🏻
How much of commission would you offer to people who bring you client?
hmm tricky to say. It depends on the quality of the client I suppose. Not really sure on this one
Wiat, what is freelance work?
so being self employed as an artist and different companies or clients ask you to complete different projects. Like a plumber or electrician
@@grabbitt Ok. Thanks for the feedback
how should my CV look
That varies a lot