Artosis vs the GSL + ASL + KSL Champion Rain / StarCraft
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2020
- Rain is the strongest Protoss player in the World. After retiring from StarCraft 2 as the best Protoss there, he returned to StarCraft Broodwar where he rose to the top quickly. He won both ASL and KSL, and was the most consistent Protoss player of the past few years.
I was lucky enough to run in to him on the ladder recently. I decided to do what any Red Blooded American would do when getting the opportunity to play such a strong opponent: CHEESE.
I all-in'd Rain as hard as I've ever all-in'd anyone.
*please note that any trash talk in the video was for the enjoyment of my twitch viewers. Rain is an amazing player who has my full respect.
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That BM dark archon lmao
So cool that you actually faced off against Rain. That's awesome.
meanwhile, rain on the other side: goddamn these cheesing terrans never know how to play a long macro game, all they want to do is cheese to grab a quick victory, i mean, does anybody wants to be good at this game?
@@guindaste35 you just reminded me that what had happened during ASL s7
@@guindaste35 YE THEY KNOW ONLY HOW TO MAKE 2 FACTORY PUSH FUCKING DICKHEADS
Man, thought you had it until those drops started to Rain down in your base.
He's not called rain for no reason
ba-dunk-TSH xD
@@Daren_PNW hahahahahahahaha, I just laughed out loud at your comment for no reason lol
MAAAAN I thought you had it for a minute. Few turrets in closer to the CC maybe?? I liked the 2 fact on the fly vs the nexus first. The push was also S league quality for awhile. GG Artosis.
It's really amazing to see Rain react so calmly to the 2 fact cheese. He did have one of the best blind counters in the fast nexus, but his decision to give up his natural and just make speed shuttles with both a reaver and DT drop was amazing. He knew Artosis didn't have that strong of an economy and probably wouldn't have Academy/Comsat as well as turret protection (since those often overlap in function). It just shows you how top-tier Rain is as a player. Great game!
Patrick McHugh I think it’s under appreciated sometimes how top level players are both extremely creative and incredibly decisive in their decision making and execution. Not to put down Artosis at all but seeing how big the gaps between skill level is in first person really is something else.
@@Materialist39 Absolutely. When we, as fans of professional BW, watch other Korean professionals play each other over and over, it can be hard to appreciate how incredibly adaptive and smart pro players are. Even though Artosis is a VERY strong player, we see how Rain intelligently decides the best moves to demolish him, by utilizing gaps in his defense, even when contained in his own base. Skill gap indeed.
So if Artosis had stopped and made a ring of turrets in his base he would have won? He only made 1-2.
@@harizotoh7 I think he overmade turrets around the contain, assuming he could catch shuttles and prevent Rain from getting to his base. So if he had built some turrets in the mineral line, or got an earlier armory for goliath defense (substantially more expensive but better if the game goes long) I think if he had done those he would've had a stronger defensive position at which point it's 1 base to 1 base which favors the Terran I believe. I'm a Zerg player so my knowledge is only based on watching hundreds of TvP matches as a huge BW fan haha. Hopefully that helps answer your question!
the so called "contain" is one of the most stupid ideas to pull in the game, just look how many mineral were spent building turrets, bunkers and even depot close to rain's base, you could easily had another base, or advance the tech, or more army. or at least, if you are "containing" the opponent, get a base, don't just sit there waiting to be attacked
Loved the "Rain got lucky this time, boys"
classic arty
Push was super legit. Love you buddy. Get him next time.
0:02 Best moment.
it must be a real adrenaline rush to send your attack through the fog of war against the best! Even while watching your casts, its easy forget the feeling of playing
If only it was an adrenaling rush.
manner DA at 10:28 and his reaction
love that big smile at the beginning lol!!
Dude I was terrified this was going to end with you running up the ramp after taking out his nexus, followed by five minutes of sadTosis: "Why the hell would I charge up the ramp?"
It may not have been the ending you wanted, but it's cool to see some of the pro-level decision making you're developing. Great content.
great game wow, you did really well i am impressed, hi from canada quebec!
You have big balls to run all in toward Rain without hesitation. For such a courage (and great entertainment for us ) I will hit the like button 1 billion times even if you loose all of them.
I love how people who usually only plays for fun goes 100% serious mode when facing a pro player. Even if they stand less than 10% chance of winning the passion and commitment they have really shows.
Make no mistake, when arty plays it’s almost always serious mode
Duuude that was close!!
He also won OSL in sc2 as well.
From making ~20,000 fighting game videos that description is more or less how I would've described Rain verbatim (a la describing Daigo, Sonic Fox, Infiltration, or whoever).
I cheesed so hard and got so far... but in the end - it didnt even matterrrr :(
Dude just 2 missile turrets by your CC... that drop was hard to watch I was rooting for u man
Woah, I didn't expect to see a Starcraft vid in my feed! Nice.
Andrew Wrangell Music come check out some of the ASL casts bro, you won’t regret it! Search “ASL season 9 starcraft” or something. Cheers
Good effort bro! Held your own against Rain!
Damn I had no idea you're this a good player!
his face when he saw the dark archon ^^ comedy classic
Who would win?
A terran strike force pushing aggressively into the natural with tanks, bunkers, and vultures
Or......
An invisible boi and a robo slug
Oh man, this was almost perfect. You should feel great for having almost won fair and square against a Korean SCBW pro. Only a few foreigners have come close to it.
I remember one wise guy that once said (well he said it many times...)... when you are ahead... get more ahead. :D
Cheers Dan! ;-)
Great play...I'm thinking when you had the contain up with tanks and bunkers, why not proxy a barracks or ebay and float for highground vision? then slowly push in with tanks? That would also have given you a scout of the tech, could've expected the initial DTs
Pushing the front would also have required the protoss to keep something at home for defense, like the reaver.
KindOfMaroon almost never smart to try and push up the ramp with 2 fact
@@ML-mx3mm Tank range is huge, could poke buildings, stray units, and use floating building for scouting...
No that would of been a terrible decision, pushing up a ramp with 2 fact is almost certainly giving all your gains away. Best decision would have been to kill the nexus then go home and defend, but dan seemed intent on setting up a contain which ultimately worked against him
Fucking goddamnit it man! I could've shat my pants if I faced pro but you played like a true hero! I'm so proud of you Dan. Keep going!
8:06 to 8:36 this is the Artosis battleface I've come to know and love
"Oh shit"
This is gonna be a good one
rain was punching the air when he saw no turrets in the main mineral line lmao
lol is there a vod of this? I wanna watch from Rain's perspective.
I thought for sure you had this one. I was like, "is Artosis really going to do it? How could Rain possibly get out of this one?" Well, that DT and Reaver thing was genius. Just too much pressure unless you were really prepared for it.
11:53 Zeratul's Raiders
Man he had it in the bag. A extra turret here and there or an academy and this was a slam dunk.
All things considered Arty that was incredibly impressive. Well fucking played
A very Rainy day for Artosis.....
Thought you had it at about the 9:30 mark
I thought Rain had it at the 0:00 mark
Hey Artosis, do you usually 1 base eco? I've only seen a few of your plays... does Terran not need as much resources to build up its army? Just curious, thanks!
Rain in your main made a game full of pain.
GG
You still the man Artosis!
I just can't believe, You wasn't ready for a shuttle play (((
Lol 'oh shit' If someday I play with you I will say the same😂😂😂tks man! Good content.
Dang I thought you had this in the bag. Nice game though man
that "Oh Shit" at the start :D
gg dan! next time you get him for sure ;)
0:07 the moment where you thought of something like: "Maybe I could win and Tasteless would be jealous about that xD"
Bit confused, but is this THE IntoTheRain? Because if it is, my god man, what a treasure to play him...!
Lmfao that "oh shit" killed me.
I think the moment he lost was when he didnt press the advantage and sweep into Rain's base with that major force at Rain's natural, and he didnt immediately build multiple turrets at the angle of his mineral line when he spotted that extra shuttle at 8:50
nice, any way you can show the whole replay, so we can see what Rain was doing too?
Holy shit, I haven't found out whether it's really him yet or not.
that "OH SHIT" at the start :D
Just at the start "Oh Shit" is enough lol
I knew he was starting up in the bottom left when he blew past in the shuttle.
better luck to the next match
GGWP - needed those units from in front of his base and your nat up and running
I can feel your sadness.... it hurts, man.
Can someone explain that button mashing at the beginning when only SCV's are being made? Am I missing a trick?
Warming up thoes fingers.
If you play it's easier to keep ur hands going fast. If you start at 0 it's hard to hit 100. if you start at 100 you can easily maintain ur speed.
I think you mean when he swipes his fingers across a row of keys once, right in the beginning. I don't know why he's doing that, unfortunately. Probably nothing important.
Spamming
@@JackyVSO that's actually him holding Ctrl and then sliding his finger across all the number keys so that all his hotkeys start off as bound to the command center. He will obviously rebind many of these to other functions as the game progresses but any "unbound" keys will remain as quick keys you can double tap to get your camera back to your main base, regardless of your hand position at the time
Still, strong showing. Dang he got out haha
What could he have done differently? Push more into the protoss base while he had the upper hand?
Wow this Rain guy is pretty good! He should totally go pro
Wait Broodwar is the standard SC again? Was sc2 ruined or was there some kind of updates to make broodwar better?
How does he not build any turrets near his CC and mineral line??? Had like 10 other turrets but not where it was needed the most
At the start why do you click rapidly like does it make the progress fast
Those brave frontline SCV's.
i thought even in sc2 its the norm to put your first turrets near scv for detection
It is terrific...
Still very good play brother
His mindset is incredible. I was thinking why he wasnt attacking. I think that on the brute force he would lose. You put him in his two bases. But the drops changed everything. Thats the beauty of bw. Everithing has a counter. Awesome!
Instead of trying to zone rain in would it have been realistic to try to siege and push the main? Or was it smarter to do what Artosis did and just contain and leave Rain on one base
Tai Chen nah, attempting to push up the ramp in this type of scenario is almost always suicide particularly against a player like Rain. The 2fact pretty much accomplished what it needed to. Slightly better defensive posture at home and Arty would’ve been in a very strong position.
Rain won with 3 units lmao. Epic
I also may have faced off against TY, I'm not sure if it was actually him or not seeing as it was on the american server, but he did smash as I was only in platinum league (he set it up in custom) but he did use a stratergy that seems like he would use
Cool game
Hey, can u start streaming on dlive?
He made a dark Archon hahaha damn
i dont undertand... why the constant clicking / selection while waiting for the scv ? is there some science behind it ?
You keep your APM (actions per minute) up so that when you actually need higher EAPM (effective APM), you're already there. You keep yourself warm and ready, so to speak.
@@FullMetalRedfield ithanks. I guess thats why i was never a good player ;)
@@Gunnl Dont worry, I was and am neither :D But that thing was a mystery for me aswell
"Oh shit" LOL
Why didn't Artosis bring his army home to stop that double shuttle drop at the end? If his units had started walking the moment the shuttles arrived he might have been able to hold.
Because if Artosis ever lets Rain to his natural, this game is lost. This was an all-in attack, Rain had a much better economy even on one base.
HydroGlobus no he doesn’t if artosis takes his natural while pushing - 2 fact is not an all in even though it’s a cheese
Sadest face in starcraft. Jk, my fav caster! Love these vids.
Man that was a fucking nailbiter
You would have been fine but he went DTs AND Reavers and it was just way too much to deal with.
Really hope you upload the replay just so we can see Rain's play
Artosis built like 10 turrets, but he didn't build one in his mineral line until the DT had already dropped.
Artosis making sure to make twice as many apm clicks ealry game when facing off against pros
..."oh shit"
So is he sure this is the one and only?
“Oh Shit.” 😂😂😂
Dang you almost had it
Lurker and mutas and zergling will be fitted hahah
When will there be SC2 on GSL again?
Nobody cares about your fake rts game.
@@ChiefDoggingfood You cared enough to reply moron.
what a throw
Just curious you were at the advantage all game. Why not continue pushing him. All that waiting gave him time to counter.
jdn408 pushing up the ramp would have been a horrible mistake. Do you play at all? As a spectator it seems like an obvious next move, but when you actually play the game you quickly recognize that trying to push up a ramp in a situation like that is almost always suicide. The 2 fact accomplished it needed to; slightly better defense at home and he would have been in an exceptionally strong position.
good game i thought you had it but you saw enter with the vultures you let it breathe
I dont think compulsivly press a control make production faster
Much improved since the last i saw you on your stream months and months ago. Remember the gol's they shoot up as well.
Sc 1 tank is scary... But the sneaky drop of protoss made it successful
Artosis played well! Not what I would have expected. Fun watch!
Where is double commander with attack
El Lluvias!!!
cool to see you lasted a whole 12:41
I was worried Rain quit BW for good. Does this mean he still plays SC in his downtime
does he play other games?
@@mmachine101 He mostly plays some Korean game called V4 and sometimes League of Legends
@@jrpgweeb but he's not going pro in any of them i guess?