Someone Just Created a Black Hole Analog Using Quantum Effects
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about the creation of an analogue black hole using Helium 4 isotopes and an interesting quantum effect
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0:00 Black hole experiment on Earth
0:40 What are analog black holes though?
1:25 Bose Einstein condensates
1:45 Sonic black holes
2:40 Strange effects these mimic black holes have
3:45 Problem with liquids in black hole replica
4:30 Helium isotopes to the rescue!
5:00 Super liquids
5:55 Weird quantum effects of these liquids
7:35 New study changes everything!
8:30 Weird effects observed
10:00 Is gravity emergent?
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Analog black holes always sound better than digital black holes.
Especially the acoustic variety
Yabbut - Only when you use quantum headphones. Too much ambient noise, otherwise.
😂 🤙
I agree
Analog Warmth
I had a childhood nightmare where I got sucked down the bathtub's drain. Turns out it was an analog black hole the whole time.
Analogue. Like analogous. Not analog like continuously variable information.
Did you watch that black hole movie from the 70's the night before?
I smoked Salvia Divinorum and got sucked into a drain in the yard where little gummy guys put me on a conveyor belt
@crono3339 Every time I use Salvia, it feels like an invisible pressure pushing up against me.
Mr. Rodgers did an episode about that.
"Hawking radiation" from an acoustic black hole? That's something I desperately want more information on.
Probably no correlation with real Black Holes.
What corresponds to the medium of wave motion, i.e. air:
"Aether".
Everything including TIME is a Spectrum meaning ONE... The only way to leave a spectrum is IN. This is why time dilates and why we have Gravity, Fusion and black holes.... A black hole is a spectrum within a spectrum
Everything dependent on Frequency.... No time matter light sound or movement of any kind without Frequency.
Everything Divided down to quarks in neutron/protons.
POWER comes from CROSSING creating Lorentz Forces.... They can be created in mind/body with exact principles as TECH.
The trinity is the Lorentz Force... Activated by the Tree of life 7 Chakra's....
. Why 7? Why is light spectrum between red and Blue? Blue diamonds to replace silicon glow red when heated... Blue diamonds have Nitrogen 7th element in blue diamonds and borophene nano scale field transistors...
The future is the past a closed loop or pool... The only way out is IN...
As mortals we are fission as Gods we are Fusion. This is why the Gods were all STARS
The legend of the Axolotl/Prometheus is no legend you can watch in real time
you should read about the audion particles..... (maybe invent the before)
Me toooo 😮😮😮
We need modern footage of superfluids.
Im so over that damn He-4 bag
Write that to smarter every day
@@theslavegamerSo was the HE4😅😅
I’ve got some super fluids
@@Farming-Technologyzing
Super liquid quantum fluids are the craziest thing to wrap my brain around
I hear the term "super liquid" and immediately think of my milky sperm.
I sort of get that but this Gravity bugs me still in its extreme forms.
For me it's anything so advanced it requires math to explain it, because analogs just don't cut it.
@nunyabisnass1141 I agree because earth's gravity will always be interfering with any of these analog experiments.
@@caseyalbright2762 it's more like I know only enough to know how flawed any analogue is when introducing the concept. Like hawking radiation. Particle/antiparticle pairs is fine if you first understand matter is inherently waves. But that doesn't mean I know what a wave is, because in this context I don't. I can't get past imagining a wave on a pond, which doesn't quite work as an analogue.
You know it´s a good video when 7 and a half minute is positioning and 3 and a half minute is the study findings. Very well done and quite interesting! Thank you Anton.
Yeah he is a very good storyteller, love the guy
Must have been difficult to find any decent footage to use to explain any of it as well…
and 12 minutes of lies too.
?? @@ElDrHouse2010
@@ElDrHouse2010 great, another science denier 😒🙄
I once got stuck in a sonic black hole. It was my sons 9th birthday part at a trampoline play centre. There were so many kids all running on cake and pastry. There was a vortex of sound that nothing could escape from. I don’t remember how I eventually got out of it, but I must have.
Bad news. You're actually still there, and all of this is just a hallucination.
Wake up! It's 2006!
Sounds like a Motorhead concert.....
:) I always felt that a sufficient concentration of kids starts to behave like a super liquid quantum fluid at a certain level of excitement...
wake up.
Ouch, was not planning on working out my brain today. Thanks for helping me lift big concepts, I appreciate the spot.
Just finished studying quantization of circulation in superfluid helium and gross pitaevskii equation and you come out with this! Wow!
im jealous af
Sorry to bother you with such a shady request but may I ask you to check out the Knot Physics site (they have published an attempt on theory of unification)? I'm not affiliated with them in any way and just like to find someone who could review it's claims.
Oh yeah, I got my turbo encabulator tuned up real nice like also.
@@Smokkedandslammed the one with a base-plate of prefabulated aluminite?
There are many things superfluids, especially particular kinds (multi-component ones and ones in universality classes like He-3A), have analogs for. The ground state of a superfluid is analogous to the vacuum, quasiparticles and/or topological defects (vortices) are analogous to matter, collective motion of the fluid to bosons. A lot of the Standard Model is basically just condensed matter theory, although I'm unclear which of these developed first or if they developed side-by-side. You can find symmetries much like those in the Standard Model in He-3A. There are analogs for Hawking radiation, the penrose effect, cosmological redshift, Hubble expansion, false vacuum decay. There are analogs for quarks, as fractionally-quantized vortices in vortex 'molecules' (which I'm studying).
great job anton as always thank for keeping us updated with new findings.
What I hear from this, is that our universe is a soup of some kind of quantum superfluid, and that the idea of gravity is actually a quantum force that somehow trickles down to our 3D physical space. Makes the gears spin a little bit.
Kind of cool to think that gravity is the RESULT of a complex system of factors/effects/properties instead of being a direct factor of our observations.
i like using the term jelly, dense, changes shape, has a lensing effect, and it folds into the direction you're moving to
I like to think of the effects of gravity as due to an evenly distributed effecting particle that exerts pressure on matter, evenly like a fluid does on its surroundings. When mass pulls on spacetime, it streches, causing a local density decrease on this effector, which acts to push matter down this density gradient. So the pull of gravity would in this case be a pushing force.
Could dark matter be a result of superfluid space-time condensing in the presence of regular matter?
At the end of the day the universe is really just a series of 11 or so fields which interact with each other in ways to create everything we know and see.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🙏😊
craziest video you've had in a while! Thanks for the updates
Great Video Anton. Extremely interesting
Thank you for the daily news Anton!
Your content output is amazing. You must have a great team working with you!♥️
I really enjoy your content Anton ❤
this is the first time any video has actually hurt my brain, i did not understand a single sentence. 10/10 content i think the goal was well achieved
Bro it's no big deal. It's just a quantum superfluid spun at a particular speed to make a vortex that behaves similarly to a black hole.
I dont really get it either lol. Sounds pretty cool though.
you must not watch much PBS Spacetime. i havnt understood anything they talk about for months now
Nie wydaje ci się, że to co piszesz, brzmi mniej więcej tak: "Nic nie rozumiem, więc to musi być genialne"?
It hurt my head but I just barely kept up.... I think
Give yourself more credit! Surely there's much you understood but it's simply that the vocab or concepts you didn't know about may have prevented you putting it all together.
All of us who are amateurs and haven't studied this academically started this way. Either you post a question on a specific big thing you missed so we can help, or use any intrigue and curiosity you have of the video or the topic to start going down Wikipedia rabbit holes to start learning about the what you didn't know!
As for videos, Anton is definitely more for the higher end audience. If you need more foundational stuff, "Dr. Becky" seems pretty good, and I recommend her videos to relevant friends.
Aa for the a takeaway of this video: you can imagine the "emptiness" of space means there's no friction, apart from stuff crashing into each other, so a bit unsurprisingly, a liquid that flows perfectly with almost no friction (called a superfluid, an example being very cold liquid helium) could represent the "flows" of matter around a black hole. Surprisingly, it seems to be REALLY closely representative. Unfortunately, though, a liquid with "no friction" isn't going to get "grabbed" by anything you stir it with, so it's been a challenge making vortexes with them.
This is a Good one Anton, & thanks for the Reference too!.
Once again many many thanks Anton for all this mindblowing content !
Anton thank you for another fantastic video
A wonderful video from a wonderful person, thank you
A wonderful channel to have found. Awesome. Thank you dude!
Man you're the best science channel on RUclips! I learn so much from you!
Emergent gravity as a concept is fascinating, we need a PBS SPaceTime video on that
They did a video about how time causes gravity (shows as 3 years old in their catalog). Since i am apparently not allowed to post links directly, just put the following line after the "v=" in the address bar:
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@pbsspacetime
A version of emergent gravity just dropped yesterday! Lucky
@pancake_bones2289 yeah and they have one on Erik Verlinde's theory next week. Lucky indeed lol
Even though it's not the same thing, this is a really great approach to get a safe close-look and how they work and what effects they have! Experiments like this are always super cool.
I have more hope in these experiments than the LHC using zillion ammounts of energy to gamble.
Incredibly interesting and very well explained, as usual!
As far as space science goes your channel is my favorite my friend and thanks for keeping us posted as per usual 👍
Keep up the good work 👌
People in sound systems used to position speakers in a way that generates an exclusion zone for the sound, its has also something about the "phase" of the "wave" or something...
Wel we can polarize the light wave to making it not visible. Yet it still there. So it obvious that angles have to do with it... funny... angles...
But ye waves can cancel eachother out or reinforce eachother.
Maybe dark matter is just cancelation of space time waves... who knows XD
interference
@@qzamboni Yes. But still interesting we can capture sound tho trough some trickery ^^
But ye it not truly gone. Heat will come in return. Gotta love the kinetic energy always transforming. ;)
Amazing video! Super interesting. Thank you👏🏾
So complex, wow, thank you Anton 👏
blink twice if your being held hostage and forced to meet a strict upload quota..
He's a content beast. Don't know how he keeps up.
It's 20 min of repeating other people's hard work it really isn't that hard 😂😂
Romulan space drive? I'm in! :D
Alien Romulus 😂
Live long and prosper, my friend. 🖖😊
Thanks Anton for your very interesting science videos.
Great video in all aspects,thanks👍😊
This is very exciting. My favourite example so far of inching towards that old idea of a theory of everything.
That was disproved
Mother nature is not to hard to understand ' it's just that no one really wants to listen to her!
The closer you get to a theory of everything, the less there is to say.
it was disproved
This is my understanding of what makes a superfluid act the way it does. Normally condensed matter has constituent particles at various differing velocities and energy levels. In such a state the particles move around a lot and collide with each other often. This is though to be the basic reason for differences in different types of conductivity. The difference with a superfluid is that by cooling down the matter as much as possible, all the particles essentially begin moving at the same velocity, and more importantly, they all begin to take on the same energy state, the lowest possible energy state. From what I've been able to learn, this is the key to understanding whats really going on with these states of matter, and I suspect superconductivity is similar in nature. This explains why the matter must be cooled to very low temperatures. It's not so much about getting the matter to be very codl, it's about getting all the constituent particles to be in the same energy state.
It makes me wonder if maybe there's a super heated counterpart to these ultra cold states. Imagine getting some but of matter so hot that it literally can't become any more energetic. This would mean that like the supercooled matter all the particles would have the same energy level, which is the maximum. Therefore, when the particles collide they neither gain nor lose any energy because they cannot become anymore energetic. I suppose they could still lose energy to other parts of the environment, but really this is just a thought that I've had. If anyone actually knows more and they want to share, that would be cool.
I have no answer, but don't particles just break apart smaller and smaller at heat goes up? Like in the particle colliders?
I will say yes. There is superheated counted part. But the heat has no limit. The cold has. Thats why it always works better to cool things. Because of the limit. And you need a limit as 0 base line.
Problem with heat is that it is always related to the energy input. And more energy is more heat.
By cooling you basicly tell those particles... enjoy the snow and frost cause it will make you slower and require more energy to move.
And because of the cooling some particles will have more heat and energy left. And this will automaticly flow to the lesser energetic ones to make them all the same energy.
Not only are the particles of a superfluid in the same energy state, they're in the same overall state. The ground state is generally unique. This is what matters. They all have the same wavefunction, all behave exactly the same way.
Exactly. The super fluid exists for the same reason electron orbitals exist. There are simply lowest possible energy states, and when you reach those states, it simply cannot go further. The crazy thing about a superfluid is how many atoms you get all the way down to a simultaneous ground state.
@@qzamboni Yes because you get close to the 0. 0 is not nothing in the universe. It is balance. Thats my theory.
Why I say this? Well in 3D forces are different than in maths. 2 objects approaching eachother have a surplus of energy relative to eachother. If this motion energy and every other property and surrounding is exactly the same the motion energy they had will be 0 after they hit eachother.
-1 vs +1 or +1 vs -1 (order doesnt matter) explains it to. In the middle there is the 0. So even when we observe nothing it might as wel exist from something.
It's like a scale. Where you cannot see the scale itself. You would only be able to see it once it's tipping one side or the other. Or in our case maybe just one side. Cause we are within that side. Not outside to watch both sides.
When standing on the opposite side of the coin you cannot see coin at all. That half is obscured. I think this is a nice analogy.
Love your vids man🎉
You’re awesome Anton. Juicy stuff!
Sounds like something straight out of a Sci-Fi Novel, Warp Drive?
*_Adamski Scoutship!_*
No
ISS should try that experiment. If the effect is so interesting on a "disturbing" gravitational pull from the earth, then imagine how it would be on the space station.
Gravitational pull onboard ISS is just a bit lower than on the Earth itself. ISS is only about 400 km further from the planet.
@@FrikInCasualModeYou are completely correct. On the other hand, does fluid, fire and even humans behave as if there were no gravity.
If the experiment doesn't account for the existence of a singularity, or the very strong spin of a black hole, or the extreme curvature of spacetime, the results of the experiment are pretty meaningless.
@@Lund.J I am not sure if it's meaningless, it may be absolutely imperfect, but if it can bring you 1% nearer any type of understanding, vs only 0.5%, then may it be worth it.
Definitely going to try to stay up to date with this. I hope it leads to some interesting things
Terrific video. Thank you.
Tbh, im kinda sad they didnt show a video of their analog black hole.
Well they showed a picture
there’s also a ‘sonic’ black hole experiment
Thanks so much Anton!
Anton, you are a gem. Thanks so much and never stop.
Trying to get a resonance cascade up in hurr...lets not invite the combine in now
Oh shid son, its now happenin
Whenever I see a cool looking science article in a feed, I always have to stop myself. If it's actually a big deal, then a RUclipsr like you will post about it. I'm glad I got to learn about this experiment in the proper context!
Great episode 🎉
Thats crazy, imagine this thing powering a starship engines one day
You can do this in a bathtub as well. Fill a bath, have a halogen overhead light (to get shadows), pull the plug. A coin sized shadow will appear on the bottom of the tub. - this is of course the shadow of the small whirlpool at the top of the bath. Cool to play with as you send small soap bubbles towards it.
I just commented on the same thing before I read yours and have done the same thing but with a ring or hexagon pattern of LEDs at a closer distance and have many pictures of it that could be art worthy. You should try it. Each light looks like a separate ring. At least one or two feet from vortex or beginning concave lensing. Closer or further changes the size. Edit. Oh' no soap bubbles!
Oh' yeah, forgot to mention that it looks like a magnet on a ferrolens!
Thx for the video!
As always, something new and interesting with Anton.
So what I got from this video is that black holes are not object. It is a gravitation vortex. Which would explain why we can’t see them. I wonder if they can reproduce this experiment with mercury as it has more density than 3He.
Yes black holes are just massive entities of gravitational mass condensed i to a singularity, or so the equations tell us.
@@AncientAli3n777 The equations don't tell us that, actually. The equations don't work up to a point, beyond that point is what we call a singularity.
Rather, a heat vortex, macrocosmic in size.
There are no "solid", "liquid" or "gaseous" states within the event horizon, only "fire" or (thermal-) energy.
A black hole bends light and heat (etheric states of matter) into vortex shapes.
@@Lund.Jthere could totally be stable state matter inside the event horizon of a black hole
Oh boy...
IM READY!!
Nice one! The personel abilities of the element Helium
7:00 the number of black holes varies like on a vibrating plate.
Welcome to cymatics
Look deeply into quantum mechanics and you'll find it's just cymatics with complex numbers.
I appreciate your video titles not being click bait like "black hole made in a lab"!
Thank you so much for enlightening me. I was always fascinated by black holes since childhood. Now with these studies and findings we are getting closer to the answer or concept that is in my mind also, that this whole universe is a big concious realm. We in this 3D world can only comprehend with limited resources, but once we get to know the real nature of these and we succeed in those, at that point in time, we may have to change our view of everything that was known to us...
This makes me think of eru iluvatar, creating the universe with the music of creation in The Silmarillion.
Great vid! 🙂
Music of the Ainur ❤
Warp Engines Too lest we forget
Of course gravity is emergent, same with space, like shadows are they're qualities!
Everything has appeared to be emergent, true . . .
Another cool video. Thank you.
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
So they may have been correct 100's of years ago with the concept of the aether...
Well now that would just be astoundingly ironic.
This is only surprising if you subscribe to science's orthodoxy
Musk's jocular theory of fate/karma springs to mind...
@@tonyduncan9852Is that like Bidenomics?
@@Noone-mo4dr why would it be expected by any stretch? Have you seen something the rest of us haven't?
@@ericalbers4867 I would recommend you look into the research of Henri poincare and Hendrik Lorentz. It's important to know where the theory of relativity evolved from to understand the ideas that were being extrapolated on.
The scientist that first started using the term 'quantum' to describe impossible scientific behavior deserves an award for most influential scientist of all time.
Does that mean a "Quantum Scientist" exhibits impossible scientific behaviour...great for partys
You can't measure the achievement of a quantum scientist without watching them collapse.
Second is the marketing genius who convinced everyone that AI was _anything_ that had some form of an algorithm at all.
I wonder who that was? Don’t think it was Einstein but probably some contemporary. Your term of “impossible scientific behavior” is interesting as Einstein had a tendency to say that “things are relative” and …
Pretty sure it was Planck. I don't know if he used that word but he definitely introduced the concept of quanta, at least mathematically.
This was an intense one. Wow!
What if the answer to the fermi paradox is that intelligent life eventually creates a blackhole that wipes them out.
How intelligent was it really then? 😅
I was just thinking that! That it was the great filter and a 5 second video of a lab technician yelling for his buddy to see something, shifting through wildly different planetary species 15 times as the sentence is "said", would be a funny sort of short for Anton to make.. Salute 🍻
Bit out of pocket but imagine some bizarre advanced civilization that has truly reached their end state. In line with the holographic principle, the civilization realized they could exist almost indefinitely by transferring their entire civilizations information/consciousness inside of a supermassive black hole.
If the information paradox is indeed not true, perhaps hyper advanced civilizations exist outside the bounds of "true" reality, their consciousnesses preserved by the black hole until the end of the known universe, existing as cosmic entities of pure information. Pretty outlandish though as since we have no solid idea as to what happens past a black holes event horizon, it's hard to say if conscious "living" systems could exist at all in that state or if whatever information is fed to the black hole is even usable/retrievable.
That's not the answer. If they were at the point of being able to manufacture a black hole, they would be long past the point of easy extinction, if any.
I mean, self destruction wouldve been far more likely at nuclear bombs or AI. But I guess that is ONE way to think about it. Although, black holes really are just...gravitational objects. Its very easy to understand their mathematical limits, and real world abilities, even if we dont know what they "are."
Romulan warp drive used a forced quantum singularity in their engine core
Don’t forget Event Horizon, similar thing.
An Adamski Scoutship (possibly factual) uses a ring of them surrounding its pressure vessel with two smaller rings above and below it to render its (possibly living) contents free from the forces generated. It can move in any direction, and adopt any attitude while doing so.
This is crazy how close it is a real physical blackhole. Only a more powerful particle accelerator than the one at CERN could make something to this effect. Intriguing...
Love you dude!
Awesome... Someone created a miniature cosmic omnivore. What could go wrong?
My ex wife creates black holes daily on the fly, everything goes to her and nothing escapes her.
spacetime being sticky to something is an interesting idea to play with, some exotic matter could have variable inertia thats not related to mass.
"we dont expect space time to stick to anything"
Idk, it sticks to mass pretty well
It may well be the othe way around.
This guy's about to solve world wars and famine and poverty with one easy and simple trick - cant have a crisis if there's no planet to crisis on
Dude this video was awesome. Mind blown once again.
Have you ever struggled fitting in? I’ve been struggling hard lately. Any helpful tips of not getting heated about how things go in the normal world?
I would say I don’t fit in to this day. But I just don’t bother wasting my energy on all of the things I can’t control - which is nearly everything! I’ve learned to adapt and enjoy the moments in life, attracted a beautiful woman, and followed what I’m most passionate about and enjoy, which lead to my physics career.
@@bjornragnarsson8692 much appreciated bro. Been going thru some hard times. If you don’t mind me asking, was getting a career in physics difficult outside of the learned material? Like how did you deal with the expenses? My passions are all side projects to my normal full time job which adds to the depression. And since I’m not around a campus I have nobody IRL to talk about science with.
Thank you sir! 😎👍
Very interesting. In the last number of years, progress seems to have slowed, but any small bit of information they find might eventually lead to a better understanding of our universe.
Very interesting!❤
Analog black holes sounds like an absolutely fascinating scientific field to study.
It's important to remember the possibility of runaway experiments with this topic. Physical data experiments made to replicate natural phenomenon might give us more than we initially anticipated.
The mind blowing implications this research has! On a side note, this ep's visuals are epically cool. ❤
Viscosity is not a measure of how 'sticky' something is, but rather how resistant it is to flow, or movement. Traditionally believed to be most relevant in describing fluids. Water is less viscous since it flows easily, but molasses is highly viscous.
FINALLY, a connection between quantum and gravity 'forces'. This isn't the first time I've found bigger physics embedded inside a different subject. Please get more on this Anton. Someone has GOT to want to study the implications of this experiment. Unified Field Theory anyone?
thank you Anton
Im so sorry but at first I wasn't wanting to subscribe to anymore RUclips. But I've been absolutely fascinated by what you have put up that I've given in and, well, now I'm subscribed and sneaking in more and more viewing. Oh I should say thank you, so, yeah, thanks alot. 😜
Incredible stuff
Thanks Anton
Very fascinating
Thanks Anton.
Would you explain why the black hole animation has the stars move as they do at 9:35? The ring of stars closest to the edge of the black disk appear to not move relative to the disc, but as the radius increases, up to the area just before the red patch of stars, those rings rotate counter-clockwise around the disc faster and faster, until at its fastest, then as the radius increases to the red field of stars these rotate clockwise, but a bit slower, until at higher radius we see the normal field of stars not rotating.
It's a point in space that can't further compress, causing the singularity seen in black holes because the pressures at the core cause matter to act as if it's at 0 Kelvin. That causes the time issues seen. The more slowly matter acts, the more quantum effects are noticed.
Certainly seems like it. Although don’t forget the rotation. Because for a Kerr black hole (every astrophysical black hole we’ve been able to directly and indirectly detect), there are two horizons and a ringularity that nothing propagates within, or at least the modes representing quantum fields disappear as the paper on this test also came to the conclusion of.
Taking a sip of my super liquid, It's amazing that they manage to make an analog then discovering similar effects. Next up, finding a way to discover if time behaves different in those ripples.
Lets drop time from the space. Makes more sense. Just keep time along with it to document but not in the equation.
Also if matter and energy behave different than time will show difference to. Time is only visible cause of matter and energy. So if this web of influence from matter and energy changes. Time does to.
So we better drop it as something important. It only usefull for observation and documentation in relation to our timeframe. Time does nothing with matter and energy. Also does nothing with space.
There is literally no reason in my mind to add time in an equation when you have matter and energy in there already. Cause they define the time.
Fascinating !
"and as always, bye bye" is so real.
Excellent!
Another day in college with Anton, a wonderful teacher. Thank you!