corrections: yujin is 16, not 15! and the one haruto tied points with was zhanghao, not hanbin. so sorry for the errors, i had to record this late so i forgot some stuff 🥲
Ikr? I first noticed Haruto sounding like NCT Mark when he rapped in front of the judges. And also am I the only one who thinks Jay kinda gives Bruno Mars typa vocal?
I also agree with this. Jay's vocals has some kind of "flavor" i don't know a better way to describe but just feels really pleasant to me. As if he could sing anything and will still sound good.
@@AnaCristina-qg9zc I get what you’re saying. With this type of vocal tone, he can add new element to the K-pop scene. I just hope people would vote harder so he can debut.
@@avery4307 His vocal tone is my favorite. I like everything about his voice. I will vote for him til the end. I don't know if Jay is your pick, but if that's the case, you already know what to do. He needs all the support we can get now right? So please vote for him too.
Honestly I feel like gyuvin just hasn’t gotten to show himself on the show much at all cause people at the live voting confused him as the center two times. Like the way the stages are shown probably also have to do with something since the live experience is definitely gonna be different. Gyuvins reveal cover made a strong case for him since the beginning for me as well. In the end, popularity matters more in survival shows and the point of these survival shows is to make a group with enough star power to be able to push forward among all these trainees. I think all of the top 9s deserve their spots because they have obviously been able to mean something for people enough to get them devoted. I don’t think anyone should shame fans for being fans of certain trainees and the gyuvin hate is getting way out of hand considering he’s one of the sweetest people and actually talented and has the idol aura
Gyuvin hate gives me the feeling of wonyoung's hate . Like these two idols deserve good things but the haters are like looking for a point to hate them.
I don’t like gyuvin. I don’t find him attractive, I don’t find his abilities outstanding, I don’t even find him appealing or eye catching in the slightest, but that would never lead me to say that he doesn’t deserve his position. All fans need to realize that every trainee on boys planet WORKS HARD and deserves whatever positive results they get. There may be trainees who don’t get the appreciation they deserve, but there will never be a trainee who doesn’t deserve the appreciation that they get. Stop wasting time hating on other trainees and instead use that time to promote your favorite trainee.
He is so low in terms of my picks but i can’t deny that the hate train is childish and stupid. If he stood out to the live audience that much then obviously there is a reason for that
I feel like Switch is one of those songs you either love and find addicting or you just find too much/confusing/annoying, luckily I really love the song and it includes several of my top9 and all of them did so well; I really hope Park Hanbin actually has a chance to debut now, Mnet doesn’t seem to mind him (obviously not first priority but still someone who they see as an option, especially as a leader if HoeTaek doesn’t debut and I’m so happy that they don’t edit him weirdly/don’t show him at all)
imagine saying Say My Name is a basic song in the industry when kpop boy groups barely do cute concepts anymore... there's a reason why Say My Name charted the highest.
@@sofiag23199 Say my name charted that high because people were very excited for the performers, not the song. It's not a bad song, but it really is generic. Some of the others are too, I'm not trying to say SMN is the only one
I dont get why gyuvin gets all the votes, but also I guess he has a presence when he is on stage or something? I have been voting like crazy for Matthew. Like I feel so bad for him. Seeing his ranks drop makes me so mad at mnet. They stretched the drama over three episodes, making it look like he was being immature, and I have seen so many people hate on him. he has also been receiving hate since someone decided it would be funny to spread that the views on his fancam are fake. He's on the 9th spot now and I feel like he's going to drop off completely.
my ranking of the battles! (based on the song, performance and overall) 1. Over Me - Best song in my personal opinion, Jay carried with vocals, Jeonghyeons rap was too good 2. En Garde - Seunghwan and Hui vocals >>> 3. Supercharger - i dont know about you guys...but Haruto hard carried that one 4. Say My Name - performance was extremely cute and i loved Matthew! 5. Switch - ehhh not the best song but still overall great performance, whole team ate with that one (especially kamden) this is just my opinion
I think people should Stop saying this nonsense things that Gyuvin doesn't deserve his position. But you all don't know the pain and the efforts he tooks is so high than other trainees. Even one experienced choreographer in his reaction said that the Gyuvin done his part best cause with that long legs and big height it impossible to balance the body while dancing. But he carried out perfectly. This is known as struggle. Please for God sake stop this Hate Trend of Gyuvin. It's a request to all haters. Please stop it .
My personal rankings would be: 1. SuperCharger (Haruto SLAYED) 2. Over Me (Jay's voice was perfection) 3. En Garde (Gunwook and Hui carried) 4. Switch (Not a fan of the song) (NA KAMDEN should have won instead of Park Hanbin IMO) 5. Say My Name (I dislike this song SO MUCH) (Matthew CARRIED) The only reason Switch is higher then Say My Name even though I don't like either song is because I despise Say My Name. The members did good and all (Matthew slayed) I am just not a fan of cute concepts.
4:38 plsss I'm obsessed with that part as well and I'm just really in love with kum junhyeons vocal color which is my main upopular opinion, his voice is actually my favorite out of all the contestants oop
I feel like people are grouping any negativity about Gyuvin as bullying and not considering some of the criticism. I will say the ‘dozen’ comments are rude and doesn’t make sense to me so I’ll ignore that cuz it’s not like he’s untalented . BUT majority of global viewers don’t understand why he is in top 9. And honestly since so many people are saying it we should look at it rationally cuz there has to be some truth to it. I don’t get why Gyuvin is in top 9 either. I haven’t found anything he does outstanding. Not kidding I even rewatched eps 2-3 to see if I was missing something with him and Yujin. Gyuvin is fine but it’s not like he excels in a particular role. I won’t lie, I’m annoyed he made it back to top 9 in the 3rd elimination because there are more talented contestants that dropped and quite frankly all I ever see knetz praise is his visual and how ‘cute’ he is. Even Somi did the same lol. Maybe Gyuvin stands out more live, idk cuz I haven’t been in the live audience so we only have the performances to judge. Even in En Garde him making 1st place over Gunwook, Seunghwan and Hui?! Cmon just felt like bias voting from live audience
FACTS. He is for sure talented, but i didnt even notice him until he was announced top 9 in the second elimination, and there are other better dancers and rappers than him. Like he is good, he works hard, but nothing stands out to me, and i also dont get why he ranked first twice in the live voting over matthew and jiwoong? And then gun wook / hui / seung hwan? Like how?
pls i agree with most of these so much!! the supercharger moments are SOOOO satisfying i keep replaying them esp the haruto center one... and i'm still mad about ep 9 ngl the editing was everywhere but showed us nothing WHY THE REWINDS?? WHY THE CUT OFF IN THE MIDDLE?? WHY SO MUCH SCREENTIME TO DUCKS?????
@@zequinhaslover63 to be fair i feel like any trainee wouldn’t choose to be sub vocal 6 during the finale (shanbin isn’t my one pick tho) but it’s did break my heart i felt bad for jay but shanbin j wanted to showcase as much talent as he possibly can bc it’s a finale and he probably feels pressure. it’s j a shake bc jay deserves a lot more than sub vocal 6 since he’s at risk but that’s my opinion
@@soraya131 I don't think Shanbin is at fault but like cmon now, he's first place for the entire show, no way he's dropping. What's the point of getting the killing part and main vocal? He also knows that Jay hasn't been in the top9 since the first elimination so he needs that part. That's the part that makes me mad. He could've chosen any other part but he chose someone in a pretty precarious position.
i agree with with pretty much everything, one thing thing i keep wondering about with survival shows is why so many trainees actually care about which part they get at this point in the show? Like i do understand why matthew was upset because of the way everything was handled but i think about halfway through the season most watchers have already chosen at least some picks and then you just need positive screentime which is out of your control (and i feel not too dependent on the actual part you have?)
Probably because the show is filmed so well in advance like we see the performance 2/3 weeks after they're filmed so too us it seems like it's too late but it might not be for them. Also performances are more fun when you have more parts and aren't hidden in the back ig. The pressure of survival shows and the helpness of knowing ppl already have picks and you aren't one is what could motivate you to work harder and want to appear more on screen because i mean you have to do something, this is your future on the line.
@@miishaa Yeah, you make some good points, i just sometimes think some of them could pick a little more strategically if you look at previous produce seasons since i feel like being desperate for parts gets edited badly often but i get that it's easy for me as a viewer to say that
I think that if people will be complaining of the minor getting older fans who are willing to pay money to see him than maybe he shouldnt debut and perform at high schoolsnor something 😂. I personally worry for his mental health in a cut throat industry. My picks are jeong and hui.
I have some things to say but I won't say all of them. 1. We missed out on Haruto. He was my third pick and I can't believe people stopped voting for him. He carried Supercharger on his back and this is what he gets? 2. Shanbin taking the main vocal part from Jay doesn't sit right with me. He knows how precarious of a position Jay is in and that he desperately needs a part. He could've moved anyone else, but why Jay? Idk it just really doesn't sit right with me and I don't like it. 3. Matthew suits the Jelly Pop killing part the most imo. 4. I sincerely hope that Jay gets more votes, he's my pick besides Matthew. Thankfully some of Jin from BTS's fans are voting for him so fingers crossed 🤞🏼 5. I feel like bepler will only get 4 g group members at most since a lot of them were eliminated, and us international fans need to focus our votes on g group since Koreans will vote for k group. 6. Haobin and mattbin annoy me. It's mostly because they use them for clout and they're always pushing friendships. Just let them be friends, we don't need to know every little thing they do. And atp, I'm not really here for friendships, I'm here for my picks. 7. Bepler's current lineup is really weak. The vocals are weak, the dance line is okay, and the rapping is pretty much non existent except Keita. Not another Kepler please.
I agree with you on the second one, like main vocal + probably killing part is a bit too much, especially for someone who already has secured a place in the final group. Like I get he wants to stand out even more on the final round but bro calm down I already know you are talented let me see the other ones 😭 no hate tho his vocals are nice and he is a good center
@@Im_zowiexactly! It's pretty much guaranteed that he'll get the killing part over any other candidate since many people love him, so taking the main vocal part was a bit too much. I still love him tho and wish the best for both of them
the final groups of these shows never release the third mission songs as their version, so the possibility of them performing over me is there, but the possibility of them releasing over me as a final group version is extremely small also unpopular opinion: gyuvin is my favorite member of F4
Also Over me is only performed by some trainees and only Zhang Hao have high chance of debuting. However Enhypen did make an Enhypen version of Flicker from I-land.
@@jindisco6084 that’s exactly what i mean, they may perform the songs but they never actually release them as the final group version the songs they release are the ones from the final
i just thought about this but… since in the produce finals there were always the groups formed on the previous season, wouldn’t kep1er be at the bp final? i’m hoping so
My ranking for the songs the first listen was 1. En gaurde, say my name, over me, switch and super charger. But my ranking changed after the performance its not say my name, supercharger, over me, en guarde and switch. ALSO! I don’t know why the small impromtu musical reading had a LOT of benefits for something they hadn’t prepared for.
I think the meaning of Say my name chorus choreo is creating a big heart balloon or bubbles then they cut it so it will fly to reach the girls or all viewers heart. It's just my theory. Hahaha.
4:34 yasss most notably for me taerae's switch high note towards the end sounds haunting in a good way the way they edited it on the official audio he literally sounds like a mermaid on that part wtf😭
shuaibo ranked higher than woonggi because he stands out more due to his hair and overall stage presence. knetz who saw feel special live said shuaibo radiated idol vibes so they voted him.
i agree that matthew was in a tough situation but his reaction was over the top regardless because i understand the inital shock but at the end of the day he couldnt pull it off and he knew he couldnt so in the name of teamwork he shouldnt have dragged it out that far imo
He was upset for like a few hours because they changed his position the day of the evaluation and we saw in the ep he was in better spirits after the evaluation (afaik). Mnet just dragged out the drama for 4 weeks to make it seem like matthew wasn't a team player. I thought it was a simple observation that mnet was using matt and the popular team for some drama but like apparently some smooth brained ppl took it seriously and started a hate train. Anyways he wasn't the one who dragged it out, it was clearly mnet milking the situation.
The way I see it, I too thought his reaction was over the top at first but later wen he explained why he was that upset I understood him cus it was relatable I dont think its necessarily 'immature' of him anyone in that show can be like that in his shoes. It was just mnet dramatizing the whole thing bcs it was seok machu
@@miishaa i wouldnt say all that because while mnet definitely milked it they didnt fabricate it matthew was actually doing all that🤷♂️ yall can hide behind the evil edit excuse for only so long
@@darkboy2216 doing all of what? showing human emotions? being upset for not even half a day? like i wasn't gonna reply because this was a long time ago but this entire situation is so funny to me, people were acting like he punched hanbin in the face and spat on jiwoong when all he did was take some time [ literal hours] to calm his emotions lmao and yeah he cried, so what? all the trainees said the competition and filming aspect was stressful, maybe that was his tipping point who knows
1. That was funny 2. Agreed 3. Robbed in daylight 4. Um what? 5. Shuibo ranks were rising rapidly before the episode aired of the situation he went up around 20 ranks. 6. He was shocking girlie lol 7. We love haruto 8.Meh 9. Well they kind of have to we hate to see it but its actually how it is being a trainee aint easy go look at interviews from debuted idols 10. Agreed 11.I Voted for him even tho I knew it was kind of in vain 12. for me Over me, Say my name, Switch, Engarde, Supercharger. 13. I dont like sun hanbin as main vocal (when hes in a group with better vocalist) its giving greedy....I like you sir but cmon let your buddies shine. Cha woonggi main rapper was def a wtf moment but seeing as haruto had killing part It was cool to see him pulling main rapper off. 14. Agreed 15. Agreed 16. LOL 17. Yujin did ok he kinda grew on my 18. I think people are overexagerating and being alittle dramatic. 19. SMH 20. Yoo seungeon felt like the center in say my name. 21.lol 22. agreed 23. awww 24. mnet soooo shady for that tried sabotaging keita and ricky. They did all that for GYUVIN and it caused alot of trainees pain to save one trainee absolute blasphemy. rip: woongi, seanghwan, zihao, seowon. 25. over me was better. Say my name was just a bunch of popular trainees who did ok. chemistry was off. 26. Again no hate to gyuvin but everything that is happening surrounding him is leaving a foul smell in the air its getting awkward 27. yes! 28. Agreed 29. LMAO 30. Matthew who is "Global" trainee who literally is korean randomly gets evil edited toward the end because he complained he wanted to sing in english.......yea ok. 31. I think the switch needed to happen due to two of them struggling now if it was one persom struggling they should have trusted him to get better but but yes hanbin should have been the one to do it not jiwoong. 32. WE LOVE HARUTO 33. Side eye 34. LoL 35. They should have just advertised as a korean kpop group because I dont think they will do well overseas based off mnet actions. 36. Sameeeeee 37. Woonggi is iconic. 38. We love haruto! 39.Lol 40. They all did well but if i had to pick last id pick jay. His vocals were theeee best but everyone was stable and if you look at everyones dance he looked very awkward sometimes so when I judge by vocals/dance combine he was last. 41. LMAO 42. agreed 43. yes! 44. They made it this far they should be confident 45. First time I thought kamden stood out 46. Supercharger intro slayed 47. King 48. Agreed which is why I think supercharger was better than say my name Im trying not to just make popularity when by default 49. I liked when ollie hit the screen you see seowon chawoong and seowon walking in the backgroud like "mean girls" then cha woongi just start slaying 50. slay 51. LMAO 52. PERIODDDDDDDD 53. Engarde lost me at the crazy angles of the camera I couldnt follow, editing out hiroto, and gyuvin wining I cant take that stage seriously 54. LMAO 55. You just said what I said above basically. Mcountdown he looked wayyyy better!! 56. I find it funny the two the drama surrounding Matthew/ Yoo suengeon did the best in my opinion. The drama took away from how much better they did from everyone tho. Thanks mnet. 57. I give up on gyuvin I liked him demostages and ep 2 but mnet made me cant deal. Now he makes me cringe
Matthew literally own all the G trainees screentime and what do you mean evil edit.It‘s what he deserve.He got too much screentime benefit like ep1-10 he has almost 1hour screentime.R y'all serious?He’s Msnake PD‘s pick no doubt just like Kim Dayeon in GP999
@@bibilibabilibo3081 how come he isn't evil edited😭he was literally being used by mnet for views He dropped in korean voting very much He's like 15th or 16th in korean votings This literally affected his rank If he had been mnet's favourite then they wouldn't have let the drama go on for legit 3 weeks!! It's a loooot
@@bibilibabilibo3081 you can't jay say anything lmao. Matthew was never in the wrong in the first place. Given the fact that he was in the same team as 4 K trainees he was portrayed negatively. And yes he was edited negatively because the entire thing mostly got sorted in a day or so but mnet dragged it for fvcking 3 eps causing ppl to drop him. Just don't say anything if you don't like him and I'm pretty sure you lack critical thinking..
corrections:
yujin is 16, not 15!
and the one haruto tied points with was zhanghao, not hanbin.
so sorry for the errors, i had to record this late so i forgot some stuff 🥲
Ikr? I first noticed Haruto sounding like NCT Mark when he rapped in front of the judges. And also am I the only one who thinks Jay kinda gives Bruno Mars typa vocal?
I also agree with this. Jay's vocals has some kind of "flavor" i don't know a better way to describe but just feels really pleasant to me. As if he could sing anything and will still sound good.
@@AnaCristina-qg9zc I get what you’re saying. With this type of vocal tone, he can add new element to the K-pop scene. I just hope people would vote harder so he can debut.
@@avery4307 His vocal tone is my favorite. I like everything about his voice. I will vote for him til the end. I don't know if Jay is your pick, but if that's the case, you already know what to do. He needs all the support we can get now right? So please vote for him too.
@@AnaCristina-qg9zc He is one of my voting lists but “Over me” convinced me to vote as my one pick. I’m voting for him everyday.
Honestly I feel like gyuvin just hasn’t gotten to show himself on the show much at all cause people at the live voting confused him as the center two times. Like the way the stages are shown probably also have to do with something since the live experience is definitely gonna be different. Gyuvins reveal cover made a strong case for him since the beginning for me as well. In the end, popularity matters more in survival shows and the point of these survival shows is to make a group with enough star power to be able to push forward among all these trainees. I think all of the top 9s deserve their spots because they have obviously been able to mean something for people enough to get them devoted. I don’t think anyone should shame fans for being fans of certain trainees and the gyuvin hate is getting way out of hand considering he’s one of the sweetest people and actually talented and has the idol aura
I couldn't agree more like some people refuse to recognize it even when he's doing a great job and it's just sad :((
Gyuvin hate gives me the feeling of wonyoung's hate . Like these two idols deserve good things but the haters are like looking for a point to hate them.
if sohye could get into i.o.i anyone can
I don’t like gyuvin. I don’t find him attractive, I don’t find his abilities outstanding, I don’t even find him appealing or eye catching in the slightest, but that would never lead me to say that he doesn’t deserve his position. All fans need to realize that every trainee on boys planet WORKS HARD and deserves whatever positive results they get. There may be trainees who don’t get the appreciation they deserve, but there will never be a trainee who doesn’t deserve the appreciation that they get. Stop wasting time hating on other trainees and instead use that time to promote your favorite trainee.
He is so low in terms of my picks but i can’t deny that the hate train is childish and stupid. If he stood out to the live audience that much then obviously there is a reason for that
Haruto didn’t tie with shanbin, he tied with Zhang Hao for 852 points!
oh i am dumb. thank you for the heads up 😭
*my ranking of the stages this mission
I feel like Switch is one of those songs you either love and find addicting or you just find too much/confusing/annoying, luckily I really love the song and it includes several of my top9 and all of them did so well; I really hope Park Hanbin actually has a chance to debut now, Mnet doesn’t seem to mind him (obviously not first priority but still someone who they see as an option, especially as a leader if HoeTaek doesn’t debut and I’m so happy that they don’t edit him weirdly/don’t show him at all)
i love switch
imagine saying Say My Name is a basic song in the industry when kpop boy groups barely do cute concepts anymore... there's a reason why Say My Name charted the highest.
@@sofiag23199 Say my name charted that high because people were very excited for the performers, not the song. It's not a bad song, but it really is generic. Some of the others are too, I'm not trying to say SMN is the only one
@@sofiag23199 well sorry for offending u… but now i take it back + the song is so cute
I dont get why gyuvin gets all the votes, but also I guess he has a presence when he is on stage or something? I have been voting like crazy for Matthew. Like I feel so bad for him. Seeing his ranks drop makes me so mad at mnet. They stretched the drama over three episodes, making it look like he was being immature, and I have seen so many people hate on him. he has also been receiving hate since someone decided it would be funny to spread that the views on his fancam are fake. He's on the 9th spot now and I feel like he's going to drop off completely.
1:18 finally someone noticed it! even though he knew it he was still giving his best and cheerful as always
EXACTLYYY i was so touched by his attitute :,( hope we can see his debut some time in the future
@@0seunggf I also hope he can debut, he was my main pick so I'm really waiting for his debut 🤍
Overall I think they should make the debut group possibly of an 11 or even 12 member. The skill set of alot of these guys is insane.
my ranking of the battles! (based on the song, performance and overall)
1. Over Me - Best song in my personal opinion, Jay carried with vocals, Jeonghyeons rap was too good
2. En Garde - Seunghwan and Hui vocals >>>
3. Supercharger - i dont know about you guys...but Haruto hard carried that one
4. Say My Name - performance was extremely cute and i loved Matthew!
5. Switch - ehhh not the best song but still overall great performance, whole team ate with that one (especially kamden)
this is just my opinion
I think people should Stop saying this nonsense things that Gyuvin doesn't deserve his position. But you all don't know the pain and the efforts he tooks is so high than other trainees. Even one experienced choreographer in his reaction said that the Gyuvin done his part best cause with that long legs and big height it impossible to balance the body while dancing. But he carried out perfectly. This is known as struggle. Please for God sake stop this Hate Trend of Gyuvin. It's a request to all haters. Please stop it .
My personal rankings would be:
1. SuperCharger (Haruto SLAYED)
2. Over Me (Jay's voice was perfection)
3. En Garde (Gunwook and Hui carried)
4. Switch (Not a fan of the song) (NA KAMDEN should have won instead of Park Hanbin IMO)
5. Say My Name (I dislike this song SO MUCH) (Matthew CARRIED)
The only reason Switch is higher then Say My Name even though I don't like either song is because I despise Say My Name. The members did good and all (Matthew slayed) I am just not a fan of cute concepts.
4:38 plsss I'm obsessed with that part as well and I'm just really in love with kum junhyeons vocal color which is my main upopular opinion, his voice is actually my favorite out of all the contestants oop
i also really like his "something like my future ahh~" part!
I feel like people are grouping any negativity about Gyuvin as bullying and not considering some of the criticism. I will say the ‘dozen’ comments are rude and doesn’t make sense to me so I’ll ignore that cuz it’s not like he’s untalented .
BUT majority of global viewers don’t understand why he is in top 9. And honestly since so many people are saying it we should look at it rationally cuz there has to be some truth to it.
I don’t get why Gyuvin is in top 9 either. I haven’t found anything he does outstanding. Not kidding I even rewatched eps 2-3 to see if I was missing something with him and Yujin.
Gyuvin is fine but it’s not like he excels in a particular role. I won’t lie, I’m annoyed he made it back to top 9 in the 3rd elimination because there are more talented contestants that dropped and quite frankly all I ever see knetz praise is his visual and how ‘cute’ he is. Even Somi did the same lol.
Maybe Gyuvin stands out more live, idk cuz I haven’t been in the live audience so we only have the performances to judge. Even in En Garde him making 1st place over Gunwook, Seunghwan and Hui?! Cmon just felt like bias voting from live audience
yeah..
FACTS. He is for sure talented, but i didnt even notice him until he was announced top 9 in the second elimination, and there are other better dancers and rappers than him. Like he is good, he works hard, but nothing stands out to me, and i also dont get why he ranked first twice in the live voting over matthew and jiwoong? And then gun wook / hui / seung hwan? Like how?
pls i agree with most of these so much!! the supercharger moments are SOOOO satisfying i keep replaying them esp the haruto center one... and i'm still mad about ep 9 ngl the editing was everywhere but showed us nothing WHY THE REWINDS?? WHY THE CUT OFF IN THE MIDDLE?? WHY SO MUCH SCREENTIME TO DUCKS?????
not the ducks 💀
Lmfao ducks 😭
I feel like the mentors should be able to pick 2 extra members for the final line up as a suprise
girl i don't understand the scissors dance in SMN as well??!!??
haruto's role model is mark so thats why they sound similar!
i was wondering ur thoughts on ep 11 since it caused lots of chaos😭
in fact i JUST watched it and i have a lot to say-
@@yujinade pls make a video about it😭
i was so mad about shanbin being greedy and not letting Jay shine
@@zequinhaslover63 to be fair i feel like any trainee wouldn’t choose to be sub vocal 6 during the finale (shanbin isn’t my one pick tho) but it’s did break my heart i felt bad for jay but shanbin j wanted to showcase as much talent as he possibly can bc it’s a finale and he probably feels pressure. it’s j a shake bc jay deserves a lot more than sub vocal 6 since he’s at risk but that’s my opinion
@@zequinhaslover63 shanbin isn’t exactly at fault but i feel so so bad for jay
@@soraya131 I don't think Shanbin is at fault but like cmon now, he's first place for the entire show, no way he's dropping. What's the point of getting the killing part and main vocal? He also knows that Jay hasn't been in the top9 since the first elimination so he needs that part. That's the part that makes me mad. He could've chosen any other part but he chose someone in a pretty precarious position.
Omg finally!!!!! From the first episode after glitch mode performance I said it that Haruto sounds like mark!!!
i agree with with pretty much everything, one thing thing i keep wondering about with survival shows is why so many trainees actually care about which part they get at this point in the show? Like i do understand why matthew was upset because of the way everything was handled but i think about halfway through the season most watchers have already chosen at least some picks and then you just need positive screentime which is out of your control (and i feel not too dependent on the actual part you have?)
Probably because the show is filmed so well in advance like we see the performance 2/3 weeks after they're filmed so too us it seems like it's too late but it might not be for them. Also performances are more fun when you have more parts and aren't hidden in the back ig. The pressure of survival shows and the helpness of knowing ppl already have picks and you aren't one is what could motivate you to work harder and want to appear more on screen because i mean you have to do something, this is your future on the line.
@@miishaa Yeah, you make some good points, i just sometimes think some of them could pick a little more strategically if you look at previous produce seasons since i feel like being desperate for parts gets edited badly often but i get that it's easy for me as a viewer to say that
I think that if people will be complaining of the minor getting older fans who are willing to pay money to see him than maybe he shouldnt debut and perform at high schoolsnor something 😂. I personally worry for his mental health in a cut throat industry. My picks are jeong and hui.
I have some things to say but I won't say all of them.
1. We missed out on Haruto. He was my third pick and I can't believe people stopped voting for him. He carried Supercharger on his back and this is what he gets?
2. Shanbin taking the main vocal part from Jay doesn't sit right with me. He knows how precarious of a position Jay is in and that he desperately needs a part. He could've moved anyone else, but why Jay? Idk it just really doesn't sit right with me and I don't like it.
3. Matthew suits the Jelly Pop killing part the most imo.
4. I sincerely hope that Jay gets more votes, he's my pick besides Matthew. Thankfully some of Jin from BTS's fans are voting for him so fingers crossed 🤞🏼
5. I feel like bepler will only get 4 g group members at most since a lot of them were eliminated, and us international fans need to focus our votes on g group since Koreans will vote for k group.
6. Haobin and mattbin annoy me. It's mostly because they use them for clout and they're always pushing friendships. Just let them be friends, we don't need to know every little thing they do. And atp, I'm not really here for friendships, I'm here for my picks.
7. Bepler's current lineup is really weak. The vocals are weak, the dance line is okay, and the rapping is pretty much non existent except Keita. Not another Kepler please.
i'm so mad about haruto fr :(
I agree with you on the second one, like main vocal + probably killing part is a bit too much, especially for someone who already has secured a place in the final group. Like I get he wants to stand out even more on the final round but bro calm down I already know you are talented let me see the other ones 😭
no hate tho his vocals are nice and he is a good center
@@Im_zowiexactly! It's pretty much guaranteed that he'll get the killing part over any other candidate since many people love him, so taking the main vocal part was a bit too much. I still love him tho and wish the best for both of them
I agree with all your points !
I think Haruto said that NCT Mark is his role model on his bio
3:33 I always thought that motion referred to their name tags, cause name tags are usually on that side. a cute way to describe ‘say my name’ haha
the final groups of these shows never release the third mission songs as their version, so the possibility of them performing over me is there, but the possibility of them releasing over me as a final group version is extremely small
also unpopular opinion: gyuvin is my favorite member of F4
Also Over me is only performed by some trainees and only Zhang Hao have high chance of debuting. However Enhypen did make an Enhypen version of Flicker from I-land.
@@vixxexo6855 i meant groups that came from produce + girls planet 999 (which is basically produce season 5)
but x1 performed move and izone rumor after they debuted?
@@jindisco6084 that’s exactly what i mean, they may perform the songs but they never actually release them as the final group version
the songs they release are the ones from the final
@@miam_k ah ok i get what you mean then, i never really understand why though since i always like the mission songs better than the final ones
i just thought about this but…
since in the produce finals there were always the groups formed on the previous season, wouldn’t kep1er be at the bp final? i’m hoping so
My ranking for the songs the first listen was 1. En gaurde, say my name, over me, switch and super charger. But my ranking changed after the performance its not say my name, supercharger, over me, en guarde and switch. ALSO! I don’t know why the small impromtu musical reading had a LOT of benefits for something they hadn’t prepared for.
I think the meaning of Say my name chorus choreo is creating a big heart balloon or bubbles then they cut it so it will fly to reach the girls or all viewers heart. It's just my theory. Hahaha.
4:34 yasss most notably for me taerae's switch high note towards the end sounds haunting in a good way the way they edited it on the official audio he literally sounds like a mermaid on that part wtf😭
lmao siren taerae 😭
7:34, did you mean Zhang Hao?
yes TT
shuaibo ranked higher than woonggi because he stands out more due to his hair and overall stage presence. knetz who saw feel special live said shuaibo radiated idol vibes so they voted him.
nice video!! what's the song for your outro?
thanks!! it's an yujin's cover of event horizon by younha :)
i agree that matthew was in a tough situation but his reaction was over the top regardless because i understand the inital shock but at the end of the day he couldnt pull it off and he knew he couldnt so in the name of teamwork he shouldnt have dragged it out that far imo
He was upset for like a few hours because they changed his position the day of the evaluation and we saw in the ep he was in better spirits after the evaluation (afaik). Mnet just dragged out the drama for 4 weeks to make it seem like matthew wasn't a team player. I thought it was a simple observation that mnet was using matt and the popular team for some drama but like apparently some smooth brained ppl took it seriously and started a hate train. Anyways he wasn't the one who dragged it out, it was clearly mnet milking the situation.
The way I see it, I too thought his reaction was over the top at first but later wen he explained why he was that upset I understood him cus it was relatable I dont think its necessarily 'immature' of him anyone in that show can be like that in his shoes. It was just mnet dramatizing the whole thing bcs it was seok machu
He didn't drag it out, mnet did
@@miishaa i wouldnt say all that because while mnet definitely milked it they didnt fabricate it matthew was actually doing all that🤷♂️ yall can hide behind the evil edit excuse for only so long
@@darkboy2216 doing all of what? showing human emotions? being upset for not even half a day? like i wasn't gonna reply because this was a long time ago but this entire situation is so funny to me, people were acting like he punched hanbin in the face and spat on jiwoong when all he did was take some time [ literal hours] to calm his emotions lmao and yeah he cried, so what? all the trainees said the competition and filming aspect was stressful, maybe that was his tipping point who knows
1. That was funny
2. Agreed
3. Robbed in daylight
4. Um what?
5. Shuibo ranks were rising rapidly before the episode aired of the situation he went up around 20 ranks.
6. He was shocking girlie lol
7. We love haruto
8.Meh
9. Well they kind of have to we hate to see it but its actually how it is being a trainee aint easy go look at interviews from debuted idols
10. Agreed
11.I Voted for him even tho I knew it was kind of in vain
12. for me Over me, Say my name, Switch, Engarde, Supercharger.
13. I dont like sun hanbin as main vocal (when hes in a group with better vocalist) its giving greedy....I like you sir but cmon let your buddies shine. Cha woonggi main rapper was def a wtf moment but seeing as haruto had killing part It was cool to see him pulling main rapper off.
14. Agreed
15. Agreed
16. LOL
17. Yujin did ok he kinda grew on my
18. I think people are overexagerating and being alittle dramatic.
19. SMH
20. Yoo seungeon felt like the center in say my name.
21.lol
22. agreed
23. awww
24. mnet soooo shady for that tried sabotaging keita and ricky. They did all that for GYUVIN and it caused alot of trainees pain to save one trainee absolute blasphemy. rip: woongi, seanghwan, zihao, seowon.
25. over me was better. Say my name was just a bunch of popular trainees who did ok. chemistry was off.
26. Again no hate to gyuvin but everything that is happening surrounding him is leaving a foul smell in the air its getting awkward
27. yes!
28. Agreed
29. LMAO
30. Matthew who is "Global" trainee who literally is korean randomly gets evil edited toward the end because he complained he wanted to sing in english.......yea ok.
31. I think the switch needed to happen due to two of them struggling now if it was one persom struggling they should have trusted him to get better but but yes hanbin should have been the one to do it not jiwoong.
32. WE LOVE HARUTO
33. Side eye
34. LoL
35. They should have just advertised as a korean kpop group because I dont think they will do well overseas based off mnet actions.
36. Sameeeeee
37. Woonggi is iconic.
38. We love haruto!
39.Lol
40. They all did well but if i had to pick last id pick jay. His vocals were theeee best but everyone was stable and if you look at everyones dance he looked very awkward sometimes so when I judge by vocals/dance combine he was last.
41. LMAO
42. agreed
43. yes!
44. They made it this far they should be confident
45. First time I thought kamden stood out
46. Supercharger intro slayed
47. King
48. Agreed which is why I think supercharger was better than say my name Im trying not to just make popularity when by default
49. I liked when ollie hit the screen you see seowon chawoong and seowon walking in the backgroud like "mean girls" then cha woongi just start slaying
50. slay
51. LMAO
52. PERIODDDDDDDD
53. Engarde lost me at the crazy angles of the camera I couldnt follow, editing out hiroto, and gyuvin wining I cant take that stage seriously
54. LMAO
55. You just said what I said above basically. Mcountdown he looked wayyyy better!!
56. I find it funny the two the drama surrounding Matthew/ Yoo suengeon did the best in my opinion. The drama took away from how much better they did from everyone tho. Thanks mnet.
57. I give up on gyuvin I liked him demostages and ep 2 but mnet made me cant deal. Now he makes me cringe
Matthew literally own all the G trainees screentime and what do you mean evil edit.It‘s what he deserve.He got too much screentime benefit like ep1-10 he has almost 1hour screentime.R y'all serious?He’s Msnake PD‘s pick no doubt just like Kim Dayeon in GP999
Yaaas we love HARUTO💜💜
@@bibilibabilibo3081 how come he isn't evil edited😭he was literally being used by mnet for views
He dropped in korean voting very much
He's like 15th or 16th in korean votings
This literally affected his rank
If he had been mnet's favourite then they wouldn't have let the drama go on for legit 3 weeks!! It's a loooot
@@janhvi_giri06 When you have these amount of screentime then you should know your place don‘t you
@@bibilibabilibo3081 you can't jay say anything lmao. Matthew was never in the wrong in the first place. Given the fact that he was in the same team as 4 K trainees he was portrayed negatively. And yes he was edited negatively because the entire thing mostly got sorted in a day or so but mnet dragged it for fvcking 3 eps causing ppl to drop him. Just don't say anything if you don't like him and I'm pretty sure you lack critical thinking..
"he tied with thee sung hanbin"
not zhang hao who got 852?😅😂
thee zhanghao!!