How (And How NOT) To Resurface Discs With A JFJ Easy Pro
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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I do thousands of discs in my jfj. Gamecube games are like 50/50 and really temperamental. Id run that back through. Basically never use 1 or 2 minute settings unless a disc is really bad and even then id avoid it and opt to run it at 10 or 20 a few times and check the condition between each time.
I tried one more light run and then for the heck of it, tried what someone said and used the fine sandpaper for 10 seconds, rebuffed for 10 seconds, and then tried again. It wouldn't even read beyond the GameCube loading screen. Good news is though so far all the others I have done have gone 20 second buffs and look great and have worked with no issue. And have already sold! Thanks for watching!
Another thing you need to do is get a powerful LED flashlight and shine it behind the disc, through the label.
If you see any pinpoints of light, that is damage to the label side of the disc, and could mean the disc is irreparably damaged.
I know you were using the GameCube adapter plate but were you also using the gamecube pads? They are a different size than the standard pads (buffing or sanding) that come with the JFJ.
I've been using one of these for about 6 months and done thousands of discs. A few tips I would give is to buy a couple of very thin (1mm) rubber/silicone washers to sit on both sides of the discs. This stops any risks of middle scratches around the screw section. I also discovered after trying loads that most can be easily cleaned with the white liquid, blue was almost pointless unless it was really deep scratches. Those you need the sandpaper for but you risk marking them.
I'd also suggest spraying water every so often on the sponge as you go and only use it for 45 minutes at a time. Otherwise it gets too hot and the powder goes everywhere. The sponges can be expensive so I used their box to cut a matching circlular piece with a suitable hole in the middle, then stuck some sticky back double sided velcro on to stick it to the black base in the unit as this will give you a bit more of a lift and extra life out of the sponges.
I can’t understand if the disk will return perfect, without any swirls
Will this unit worked on 2 sided DVD's? Where I used to get my stuff resurfaced they said it was to difficult for them to do 2 sided discs so I would just pitch them and buy new ones.
Thanks for this very helpful vlog. I am trying to learn how to use the JFJ. I didnt realise that the blue solution was necessary to help remove the white solution! Makes a lot of sense. Thanks mate. (from Sydney Australia)
4:25 The Xbox 360 games are DVD based, so the data layer is sandwiched between two pieces of plastic (can't buff it off) more likely you friction burned the disc and it warped (I did that to a few discs when I first started with this machine)
Eliminate those pads and use auto detailer (reusable, cheaper) pads, one wool, one foam. Eliminate their creams. Use Meguiars 105 and 205. The disc will appear like new.
Can you elaborate? What pads should we buy? Do you have a brand or anything to look up
@@Pure4Pres Just buy a decent pad of any name brand. What matters is the material. Start with a wool (or microfiber) followed by a foam finishing pad. Go to "Pan The Organizer" a RUclips channel, and watch videos on paint correction.
Do you know where I can find better pads? I didn't find anything through Pan the organizer
I hate the machines' compounds as they tend to leave marks on the discs, and I use Meguiar's Ultimate Compound.
I get much better results using that.
I also never use the sandpaper at the recommended times, as it's too much. 2 rounds of 3 seconds it more than enough.
And I always spray some water on both disc and buffing pad before polishing, as well as on the disc before sanding it.
Gives WAY better results.
Thanks for the info. just purchased one yesterday
" i had the lugnut on too tight and or loose" Makes no sense. Also, what did you learn? What did you do wrong? You never explained
My exact thoughts. No new information es actually shared here. Big waste of time.
You’re absolutely right! Sometimes we mess up. Wether it be a bad buy or a botched repair. Things happen!! Great video! 👍🏻
When you say you have it on to tight are you just referring to not pushing the pads down all the way or is there something else I am missing?
Thank you so much for this video. I am waiting on my JFJ now and was really nervous about using it. My take away is “less is more” for sure.
Yeah I made a classic mistake when I wasn't sure how long to do it for. I should have done multiples of 20 seconds because you can always take more surface away, but ya can't put it back! Thanks for watching!
Nice video ; Appreciated
If I get a disc that doesn't work after resurfacing on the JFJ then I run it through again and 9 times of of 10 it works it's worth a go.
for how long the second time?
So you don't use the sanding disc for game cube discs? Just the polishing compounds pads? Thanks for the video
I rarely use the sanding discs because those are pretty much for when you can put a fingernail in a groove and feel it. Gamecube are extremely hit or miss for me so I prefer to go with the least harsh method. I actually just picked up some discs to use for a video that I have no idea what level of repair will work on them since they look pretty bad.
Sorry for all the posts. I'm pretty sure the gc eject button just needs to be take apart and cleaned
I'm thinking the specific area where there is the security "barcode" on the GC disc might distorted as you can play using the other disc to boot.
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If u ever ever clean Gamecube games and don't want to buy the accessories for the JFJ easy pro u could still refurbish them I did it with maybe 5 discs 2 sports titles for experimental research and later on with a copy of Paper Mario which I almost didn't do to me being scared but it clean it alright has some small scratches but it was an old disc a friend gave it to me and didn't to care of it it works before but I wanted to clean it
Warnings tho
If u gonna use soft used soft sandpaper for 10 seconds that's it
After that remove the disc and clean the machine cause ill leave a black stain on the disc trait it doesn't damage the disc
2 used the white paste and apply on the pat 10 seconds also it may reduce the use of the pat since it's using half of it and it may turn blackish
Same with the blue one might turn blackish it may not clean it perfectly might leave some smallish scratches but ill play the disc I haven't tried 20 secs if someone did let me know but I got 5 games looking brand new and some of them were pretty old
Luigi's mansion
Paper Mario
Mario Sunshine
Sports title
Yugioh the false bound kingdom
I recommend searching other videos like this one and get to know the machine better in other cases like ps2 games and Wii games if the searches are too deep or noticeable used the core sandpaper for 10 secs that's it and used the others for 10 secs that goes for Gamecube games to 10 secs that's it
how many DVDs can you make with one buffing ?
thanks
Hi hoping you would be able to help me after finishing a disc I can remove the scratches but it is leaving lines on the ring just next to where it buffs and these lines happen after using the sandpaper and the don’t play because of the lines the rest of the disc is fine though, any help highly appreciated as It’s really starting to annoy me and I can’t fix any discs
Hi, does this machine snap discs that are about to snap?
Do you see any swirl marks on the disks that you'd see on disks resurfaced on a hand crank machine?
What was on to tight? Was it the white nut that holds the disc?
Not the white nut, but the one that holds the plastic piece in place on the arm. I must have overtightened it and it didn't put the holder in the right spot. It's kind of a pain to swap those back and forth.
Amigo de que estan echas las almoadillas de pulido de la maquina jfj easy pro?
Mental note Jeremy McGrath is the first gamecube game I do.
How many games can you resurface per pad before you need to use a new one and do you know whats cheapest I can buy that machine
that eject button on the gamecube is very easy to fix 5 minutes a screwdriver Qtip and alcohol and solved
Hey so I just hook up my JFJ easy pro and when I plug it in it doesn’t turn on
What is the difference between a sanding pad and a buffing pad
The sanding pad is literally a kind of sandpaper that will wear off layers of the disc. The buffing pads do that as well but not nearly to the depth that the sandpaper will do. I have only tried using it once actually and that was on a disc that had just a huge number of deep scratches. Didn't help unfortunately. I have been thinking of buying a lot of really cheap games from a thrift store that are wrecked and see if I can figure out some good methods for fixing the really bad ones!
@@Cakeinacave so basically most of the time a buffing pad is perfect correct. Also with the buffing pad is the white side facing up or is the black side facing up in the machine
@@JohnnyU-sj5gb Its the white side! The blank side is the velcro side that sticks to the sander disc inside. You should get 2 white pads and 2 sanding pads in every kit. And yes, nearly all of my repaired discs have been run through the white buffing pad with the white "goo" and then another round with the blue "goo" that shines and smoothes the surface.
@@Cakeinacave can you clean the sander disc inside the machine with water. Will that affect how future buffing pads stick to the sander disc. Also I appreciate you answering these questions for me
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Everyone's experiences are different. What's great is that we have choices so when one doesn't work for us, there's something else available!
Link on where to order GameCube adapter?
Any recommendations for getting swirl marks constantly? I followed the directions but still get them
Use another compound.
How well does it work for regular DVD's & CD's?
I need to make an updated (and better video) for this but I have had personal DVDs that were skipping that I popped out of the DVD player, ran to the garage, resurfaced the disc, and popped it back in and it fixed the problem. So I have had really good success overall with that. I honestly do not recall if I have done any audio CDs with it as I haven't had much occasion for that.
I fixed two ps1 games, tried a third one that had issues, but the opening fmv was not skipping now it's skipping so I made it worse event hough the disc is more shiny than the two I was able to fix. Any idea what causes games to work worse after using the jfj easy pro?
I will give you my "experience based technical guess" on this, because I too have had discs that looked beyond playable at first yet they worked.....until I decided to clean them and suddenly they no longer functioned properly or at all. When you resurface a disc, you are grinding off a very fine layer of the material, even with the soft pads. And at some point, you can actually grind off enough of the surface to destroy the data. The side of the disc that is read is made up of tiny microscopic bumps so it's very possible if you sand down to far, or if the disc was produced in a cheaper manner, that even just one resurfacing of the disc could destroy enough of the surface to make the data hard or impossible for the unit to read it anymore. The shininess of the disc won't really have anything to do with the ability to play discs properly, and the shiner it gets, the more of the disc surface that is being removed obviously.
With a PS1 game (I'm assuming it's the black bottom style disc) I would go very slow with the resurfacing. Maybe even in 20 second bursts. Test it after each resurfacing and see. Of course, that could be hard to do just because if you have a situation where the disc worked before you resurfaced it, you might possibly be destroying data that won't be read until much later in the game being played. I find that resurfacing discs becomes a kind of art and balance between knowing when a few scratches really don't effect the game but sanding it down might make things worse. I seriously had a Gamecube game that looked like someone took it and rubbed in face down across sandpaper. But it played fine. I decided to resurface it to look better for resale, and the disc never read again.
@@Cakeinacave Thanks for your reply. I will take your tips into account because I think they work for the PS1 these are the black discs but I don't think they are made with cheaper plastic I read online they are more sturdy than PS2 discs for example because of a coating. I tried 6 games of which 4 I was able to save. But 2 of those ran worse after buffing and polishing. One Game I had to buff more and suddenly it worked the other I did the same thing but wouldn't work then I contacted customer support because I was considering returning the machine because 3 of 6 games ruined that's not why I paid so much money for this. Then just for the heck of it I used the soft sanding paper on that disc for 10 sec, 20 buffing and 20 polishing and you never guess the game was working. I test all ps1 games by ripping them to a computer if that works 100% the disc and data on it should be fine. You can also do this for PS2 and in your case because you mention the Gamecube you can apparently do this with a modded Wii system but how that works I don't know. All I can say you are right it's an art and it takes a lot of trail and error I will try some more games tomorrow before I decide to send back the JFJ or not. I bought the machine not to resell but to restore my game collection and if a game in my collection doesn't work, it kinda hurts even though it's just a piece of plastic replacing them can be expensive.
you ever had a gamecube disk that wouldn't read after resurface ?
Yes, Gamecube games are my worst experience with this to be honest. I have taken to just doing the 20 second repair (and sometimes JUST the 20 second buffing option ONLY) because I've lost more than 1 Gamecube game. It was crazy because they were scratched to hell and back and played fine. But one single resurfacing cycle and they stopped working. So I have adopted the less is more approach and do them in very small amounts.
Positively Hustling I had a copy of twilight princess that was heavily scratched and didn’t work before and I did one minutes of compound 2 and then one minute of compound 1 and it doesn’t even read it’s crazy my windwaker is scratched and it runs fine.
Ps1 games you can backup with imgburn so you know if the disc will work all the way through. You can also do this for ps2. But i assume not with gamecube games.
@@BENVAFabri maybe a softmodded wii and use that to rip the game to see if it reads?
For super rare gc games maybe start with a light polish with the number 1 and work up to number if you need to. You can always go heavier but not lighter. Idk I don't have one of those but this is how I approach automotive paint.
How effective is this on Wii and PS3 games?
It's no less effective than on any other. I think I've done over 100 discs so far and at least half were Wii games. I have not had any complaints from any customers who have bought ones that I have resurfaced.
@@Cakeinacave Thank you :) My last concern is the cost of restocking supplies as a Canadian customer. The shipping fees seem pretty high and there does not seem to be a Canadian alternative.
@@p0ck3tp3ar That one I wish I had an answer too. It already seems expensive to me for a refill kit here in the states, so I can only imagine what tax and shipping is over there. You SHOULD be able to get a good number of discs cleaned from one refill kit, I would imagine easily 100 if you are doing it correctly. Hopefully the sales on those will more than make it work the time and cost.
@@Cakeinacave Even if the fees are high I imagine it would be worth it, some of these games are worth $20+. I was thinking about using the machine on working discs that look ugly, good idea or bad? Lastly, if you have time, do you use any kind of spray or cleaner on game cases? I was thinking about using goo gone or index just to make them have a fresher feel.
@@p0ck3tp3ar My suggestion is get a few games that are worthless and practice on them. I have had discs that look fine that I decided to do just the most basic buffing on and they stopped working. Or I had discs that looked like someone had placed them face down on the ground and scratched them all up, yet they played fine. When I refinished them, they didn't work at all. I'm not saying thats a common thing but just expect that sometimes you are going to have results that make no sense. Honestly if the game case is dirty, just wipe it down lightly with a cleaning wipe. If you have sticker residue then Goo Gone is fine, just make sure you take the cover inserts and manual out first or I promise that stuff will find it's way onto the paper and ruin them!
Hi hoping you would be able to help me after finishing a disc I can remove the scratches but it is leaving lines on the ring just next to where it buffs and these lines happen after using the sandpaper and the don’t play because of the lines the rest of the disc is fine though, any help highly appreciated as It’s really starting to annoy me and I can’t fix any discs
Just off the top of my head it sounds like maybe the spring that holds the arm holding CD is either loosened, or too tight, or possibly you may have to replace the buffing pad if it worn or crusty at the edges. It sounds like the edge of the pad is somehow creating the swirls that you are seeing, either from age or from the pressure the CD is being pressed into the pad with.
I had a similar issue when I switched the disc to the one made specifically for holding Nintendo GameCube games. When I swapped it back out for the standard size, I remember I didn't tighten the nut enough and it kind of gave me some funky results. So that's along the lines of what I'm thinking. Obviously if you're using a new pad or the unit is relatively new This probably isn't the issue but let's start with that info and see if it helps?