Thank you for the kind words! Always humbled. Great video! Very shiny and beautiful deck you got their too. 🔥 Have you considered trying out some cards from the Festival booster by chance? I'm thinking of trying a few. Flame Leaf Chaotic Dance, Hakusui&Remred And the Purple OT come to mind. I just got the cards, so I'll be experimenting 👀. Keep up the great work amigo!
Thank you as well! Will you also be doing one again? I'll be sure to watch it! We have also picked up cards from Festival Booster for other decks! Although without actually testing them, (along with Azure Sky White Scale, Aspronia&Sapphira) they seemed a bit too restricting. Needing to be called from hand other than during battle phase, really hurts their viability, I feel, seeing as how we're mostly calling things from deck and in battle. Also I'm not a huge fan of too many counterblasts in Musketeers since I mainly funnel into Cecilia and Saul. I'm certain that these cards and their "clones" will see more play in other decks though. I can already smell the cooking with these. How has the Crest been in testing for you? Would love to hear your thoughts!
@@casualzonecfv I agree the cards are limiting. They really nerfed premium abuse with them lol. It does help with going first. It's better for long game benefits. Your Force markers will scale and cards faceup in G Zone. But that's pretty much it. Going second it's still better to go onto Katrina as before. However, depending on who we ride with, can determine if we get an initial Force marker. I know others that still play the old way but with some new cards still like Sea Strike Enlargluv and Bracing Angel Ladder. Once I have time for it, I'll play test it more.
We have almost the exact build, except I am not running the Maiden of sweet berry , +1 Light Elemental Honoly + 1 Vineyard Elf +1 Valkyrie of Reclamation, Padmini (4 Padmini is very crucial to the deck beside Reverse Cecilia which you want in the deck, the rest of the G3s are all very important pieces to the deck); 1 Light Elemental Honoly does nothing for the deck you either run 2+ or none at all.. in matchups against accel decks, I love to go straight into Katrina or Ladislava and call both Honoly to the RG. (Honoly never bothers me because Reverse Cecilia can lock them)
That's awesome to hear! I still run Sweet Berry for the token generation which can be used for repopulating the board or highroll through plays and some disruption. I can totally see the merits of running x2 Honolies. As for V Padmini, x3 is honestly enough to find the Crest. Space is already tight enough that it's hard to include more where she eats up a lot of tech slots for cards like Kiara, Augusto, etc. I suppose it'll vary from people to people. I have players here who can draw into OG Cecilia 90% of the time, so they don't run Padmini lol. Clearly a skill issue on my part. How is the x1 Vineyard Elf for you?
@@casualzonecfv Vineyard Elf is very nice! Because the space are already very limited Augusto wasn't worth running so Vineyard Elf can do the same as Augusto (Recycling) but better (Recycles and Counter Charges) ! Neo Nectar's G Guardians are CRAZY GOOD! Robertina as stated for recycling and counter charging. Then you have Rain Breath Dragon which you can pull off some funny situations with Saul (top decking OT or Heal Trigger) and can catch your opponents off guard if you call Honoly from hand during the opponent's 4th attack. I would honestly run more Vineyard Elf if i can..
Thanks for your input! More G-Guardian access is always appreciated. I had a similar thought process with Enlargulv and he gets bonus points for being able to add cards like Angel Ladder back. Sadly, too many techs, too little space.
I'm also running x1 Vineyard Elf. With Vineyard Elf in your build I recommend trying out x1 Sacred Tree Dragon, Rainbow Cycle Dragon in the GZone. It's not flashy and is effectively a weaker Robertina. But it's very effective for preventing deck out and conserving you're 'good' GGuards.
Zone, I'm a budget player and I can only afford (for now) the premium deck set for Neo Nectar/Revenger/Jewel knight: if I add the cards of the main deck that you listed, without buying another 2 katrinas and all the other cards in the G zone that I can't afford, is the deck still an A or S tier? Or do you suggest me to move to Revenger/Jewel knight which I saw there were better to play immediately as premium deckset and there are less expensive than Neo Nectar? Also, if it is possible for you, could you please make a budget (and I hope also competitive) of this deck and of Revengers? I really like these two archtypes and I really want to play at least one of them competitevly with my friends ... Hope you can help me! Thanks a lot for your content!
All three decksets require additional upgrading to be more competitive. If you can only pick one, I would always suggest picking your favorite and roll with it. All three are very viable with some degree of investment. I also don't know your exact budget, so I will base it mainly on what's available in the decksets. Budget Cecilia: 447WG This list will do just fine and is still strong. Even though it's missing some key cards, like the counterchargers, you can still make due with tighter resource management. There's a lot you can ignore in this video, so I included the more important cards to pick up. At a quick glance, they seem to be affordable enough. I do recommend picking up at least one more Katrina along with two copies of Cycloned as some of the main priorities, as they are ridiculously busted together. Budget Raging Form: 4SEE0 Raging Form is probably the most ready right out of the box because it already contains most of their key cards and potentially has the strongest ride-up of the three. Looking beyond the deckset, there's V Raging Form, which is used as a follow-up to Raging Rapt. You would then reduce the amount of Raging Falls to slot V Raging Form in and also add more techs to support their gameplan. However, V Raging Form and the other techs have skyrocketed in price, and I don't think it would be considered a budget build anymore, so I didn't include them in this list. If you would like to know more, just say the word, but $$$. I'd say to simply pick one that you like and just play. You'll figure out what it needs afterwards, and you'll gradually improve it over time. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
@@casualzonecfv Thank you so much for the big help Zone, I really appreciated it: coming back to the game wasn't that easy not only because of the money but also for the understanding of the mechanic of the decks. Btw, I didn't understand when you written " If you would like to know more, just say the word, but $$$". Also, I need to ask you if you'd rather suggest me other budget decks that are bettere than these two budget versions of Raging form and Cecilia, like idk Gear Chronicle with Steam Maidens (idk just saying) Btw, my budget is 100€. Hope it can help, thanks again!
Always happy to help. Also, welcome back to the game! A lot may seem complicated at first, but everything will start flowing once you actually start playing. I highly, highly recommend one of these decksets for a budget deck. These are actually the perfect way to get started and are as budget-friendly as they can get because they contain a lot of valuable cards like Harmonics, Sanctitude, etc. Nothing else can top that at the moment. All three decks are also exceptional and can be very competitive too. While they do require upgrading still, it should be well within your budget to upgrade it at least a little bit to allow the deck to play the way that it's intended. Since you mentioned that you were interested in Cecilia and Raging Form, I would suggest starting with either of the two. Regarding that comment, apologies if that was super vague! I meant that I can tell you more about upgrading the Raging Form deckset further, but it'll start costing a lot more as a few of the Revenger cards shot up a lot in value. It would no longer be the budget build that you are looking for.
@@casualzonecfv Thanks for the welcome back Zone and don't worry about the the super vague comment! About the Raging Form in fact, at first I was interested in since I like Shadow Paladins but since I saw that some raging form cards are shooting up in value and since I discovered, I might start with Musketeers. Also, may I ask you which cards in the g-zone I can use/buy to replace (temporarily) the 2nd and 3rd copy of Katrina? Since it costs a lot and I think I need to focus on the Main deck first and then on the G-zone in order to make the deck more consistence, maybe something like Ladislava or idk, other Link 4 bosses.
Musketeers is a great choice to start with! With your current budget, you can certainly make do and slowly upgrade it later. I agree, the main deck should be prioritized for now because you want to enable the Reverse loop more easily to really make an impact for this deck. I suggest maxing on Cecilia Reverse and picking up the 2-3 Usurp Dragons for it. As for the replacement for Katrina, Ladislava is a good alternative. You'll find that she's a bit more clunky and will hit less hard, but she does have pinpoint searching for utility. Also, she's for the Megacolony matchup to let us at least do _something_ against them. Then there's Midsummer Flower Princess, Lieta which is also a decent option as well. She can call cards from the deck with the same name as all cards in your soul, including the heart. You can pretty much play anything that can call Reverse from deck to get the deck going. But don't forget Cycloned too if it's doable for you. Even with just a single copy of Katrina, scaling tokens will make them hit harder than anything else in this deck.
Apologies if I misspoke! I meant when they drop multiple Honolies in a single turn. Even if they were to call only one Honoly, they'd still be swinging lower by trading in bigger numbers for more defense (assuming Katrina turn).
I agree. I was only trying to emphasize that Musketeers can continue to push even after calling a Honoly without hurting themselves. It's so perfect that they can lock it right after the 4th attack on the Katrina turn. The only thing that would hurt from a Honoly is not leaving a token to lock instead for more highroll plays, which really doesn't come up often anyways.
Space has actually gotten rather limited since we got Virginal Cecilia. In practical situations, I can see Inverno and even the 3rd Katrina not coming up so they have a chance to be cut. In which case, I'd fill it out with more utility and not the other Musketeers Strides as I don't want to dedicate too much space to Strides that are essentially just flip fodder. Antero is still useful should I decide not to flip him.
Ladder can also shut down or severely slow down certain control that turn and the turn after, which could be key, like Narukami, Shiranui, LJ or Kagero. While at all times not super needed against every control matchup, it definitely makes the Narukami match a lot bearable. Plus the extra 5k on every Cecilia reride is nice
Musketeers needs a full board to really go off making them quite fragile. Favila is sometimes just not enough, especially against decks that can disrupt multiple times in a turn. Angel Ladder is turn-wide. For now, I decided to play both to be safe until my local meta deviates from disruption heavy decks.
Agreed! Also with Granblue being one of the best and most popular decks right now, Cannoneer hurts a lot. Not to mention, a double Cannoneer play that will just shut down the entire turn.
Bracing Angel Ladder is a MUST for musketeer when the top 5 decks all have Battle Phase RG disruption, Favila only protect your first Reverse Cecilia from getting interruption (what if you top 5 and got another one, Bracing Angel Ladder ensures that you can keep the momentum going)
Thank you for the kind words! Always humbled. Great video! Very shiny and beautiful deck you got their too. 🔥
Have you considered trying out some cards from the Festival booster by chance?
I'm thinking of trying a few. Flame Leaf Chaotic Dance, Hakusui&Remred
And the Purple OT come to mind. I just got the cards, so I'll be experimenting 👀. Keep up the great work amigo!
Thank you as well! Will you also be doing one again? I'll be sure to watch it!
We have also picked up cards from Festival Booster for other decks! Although without actually testing them, (along with Azure Sky White Scale, Aspronia&Sapphira) they seemed a bit too restricting. Needing to be called from hand other than during battle phase, really hurts their viability, I feel, seeing as how we're mostly calling things from deck and in battle. Also I'm not a huge fan of too many counterblasts in Musketeers since I mainly funnel into Cecilia and Saul. I'm certain that these cards and their "clones" will see more play in other decks though. I can already smell the cooking with these.
How has the Crest been in testing for you? Would love to hear your thoughts!
@@casualzonecfv I agree the cards are limiting. They really nerfed premium abuse with them lol.
It does help with going first. It's better for long game benefits. Your Force markers will scale and cards faceup in G Zone. But that's pretty much it.
Going second it's still better to go onto Katrina as before. However, depending on who we ride with, can determine if we get an initial Force marker.
I know others that still play the old way but with some new cards still like Sea Strike Enlargluv and Bracing Angel Ladder.
Once I have time for it, I'll play test it more.
We have almost the exact build, except I am not running the Maiden of sweet berry , +1 Light Elemental Honoly + 1 Vineyard Elf +1 Valkyrie of Reclamation, Padmini (4 Padmini is very crucial to the deck beside Reverse Cecilia which you want in the deck, the rest of the G3s are all very important pieces to the deck); 1 Light Elemental Honoly does nothing for the deck you either run 2+ or none at all.. in matchups against accel decks, I love to go straight into Katrina or Ladislava and call both Honoly to the RG. (Honoly never bothers me because Reverse Cecilia can lock them)
That's awesome to hear! I still run Sweet Berry for the token generation which can be used for repopulating the board or highroll through plays and some disruption. I can totally see the merits of running x2 Honolies.
As for V Padmini, x3 is honestly enough to find the Crest. Space is already tight enough that it's hard to include more where she eats up a lot of tech slots for cards like Kiara, Augusto, etc. I suppose it'll vary from people to people. I have players here who can draw into OG Cecilia 90% of the time, so they don't run Padmini lol. Clearly a skill issue on my part.
How is the x1 Vineyard Elf for you?
@@casualzonecfv Vineyard Elf is very nice! Because the space are already very limited Augusto wasn't worth running so Vineyard Elf can do the same as Augusto (Recycling) but better (Recycles and Counter Charges) ! Neo Nectar's G Guardians are CRAZY GOOD! Robertina as stated for recycling and counter charging. Then you have Rain Breath Dragon which you can pull off some funny situations with Saul (top decking OT or Heal Trigger) and can catch your opponents off guard if you call Honoly from hand during the opponent's 4th attack. I would honestly run more Vineyard Elf if i can..
Thanks for your input! More G-Guardian access is always appreciated. I had a similar thought process with Enlargulv and he gets bonus points for being able to add cards like Angel Ladder back. Sadly, too many techs, too little space.
@@casualzonecfv yeah..i really want to make space for Kiara but man space are just too tight ..
I'm also running x1 Vineyard Elf. With Vineyard Elf in your build I recommend trying out x1 Sacred Tree Dragon, Rainbow Cycle Dragon in the GZone.
It's not flashy and is effectively a weaker Robertina. But it's very effective for preventing deck out and conserving you're 'good' GGuards.
Zone, I'm a budget player and I can only afford (for now) the premium deck set for Neo Nectar/Revenger/Jewel knight: if I add the cards of the main deck that you listed, without buying another 2 katrinas and all the other cards in the G zone that I can't afford, is the deck still an A or S tier? Or do you suggest me to move to Revenger/Jewel knight which I saw there were better to play immediately as premium deckset and there are less expensive than Neo Nectar?
Also, if it is possible for you, could you please make a budget (and I hope also competitive) of this deck and of Revengers? I really like these two archtypes and I really want to play at least one of them competitevly with my friends ... Hope you can help me! Thanks a lot for your content!
All three decksets require additional upgrading to be more competitive. If you can only pick one, I would always suggest picking your favorite and roll with it. All three are very viable with some degree of investment. I also don't know your exact budget, so I will base it mainly on what's available in the decksets.
Budget Cecilia: 447WG
This list will do just fine and is still strong. Even though it's missing some key cards, like the counterchargers, you can still make due with tighter resource management. There's a lot you can ignore in this video, so I included the more important cards to pick up. At a quick glance, they seem to be affordable enough. I do recommend picking up at least one more Katrina along with two copies of Cycloned as some of the main priorities, as they are ridiculously busted together.
Budget Raging Form: 4SEE0
Raging Form is probably the most ready right out of the box because it already contains most of their key cards and potentially has the strongest ride-up of the three. Looking beyond the deckset, there's V Raging Form, which is used as a follow-up to Raging Rapt. You would then reduce the amount of Raging Falls to slot V Raging Form in and also add more techs to support their gameplan. However, V Raging Form and the other techs have skyrocketed in price, and I don't think it would be considered a budget build anymore, so I didn't include them in this list. If you would like to know more, just say the word, but $$$.
I'd say to simply pick one that you like and just play. You'll figure out what it needs afterwards, and you'll gradually improve it over time. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
@@casualzonecfv Thank you so much for the big help Zone, I really appreciated it: coming back to the game wasn't that easy not only because of the money but also for the understanding of the mechanic of the decks.
Btw, I didn't understand when you written " If you would like to know more, just say the word, but $$$".
Also, I need to ask you if you'd rather suggest me other budget decks that are bettere than these two budget versions of Raging form and Cecilia, like idk Gear Chronicle with Steam Maidens (idk just saying)
Btw, my budget is 100€.
Hope it can help, thanks again!
Always happy to help. Also, welcome back to the game! A lot may seem complicated at first, but everything will start flowing once you actually start playing.
I highly, highly recommend one of these decksets for a budget deck. These are actually the perfect way to get started and are as budget-friendly as they can get because they contain a lot of valuable cards like Harmonics, Sanctitude, etc. Nothing else can top that at the moment. All three decks are also exceptional and can be very competitive too. While they do require upgrading still, it should be well within your budget to upgrade it at least a little bit to allow the deck to play the way that it's intended. Since you mentioned that you were interested in Cecilia and Raging Form, I would suggest starting with either of the two.
Regarding that comment, apologies if that was super vague! I meant that I can tell you more about upgrading the Raging Form deckset further, but it'll start costing a lot more as a few of the Revenger cards shot up a lot in value. It would no longer be the budget build that you are looking for.
@@casualzonecfv Thanks for the welcome back Zone and don't worry about the the super vague comment! About the Raging Form in fact, at first I was interested in since I like Shadow Paladins but since I saw that some raging form cards are shooting up in value and since I discovered, I might start with Musketeers.
Also, may I ask you which cards in the g-zone I can use/buy to replace (temporarily) the 2nd and 3rd copy of Katrina? Since it costs a lot and I think I need to focus on the Main deck first and then on the G-zone in order to make the deck more consistence, maybe something like Ladislava or idk, other Link 4 bosses.
Musketeers is a great choice to start with! With your current budget, you can certainly make do and slowly upgrade it later.
I agree, the main deck should be prioritized for now because you want to enable the Reverse loop more easily to really make an impact for this deck. I suggest maxing on Cecilia Reverse and picking up the 2-3 Usurp Dragons for it.
As for the replacement for Katrina, Ladislava is a good alternative. You'll find that she's a bit more clunky and will hit less hard, but she does have pinpoint searching for utility. Also, she's for the Megacolony matchup to let us at least do _something_ against them. Then there's Midsummer Flower Princess, Lieta which is also a decent option as well. She can call cards from the deck with the same name as all cards in your soul, including the heart. You can pretty much play anything that can call Reverse from deck to get the deck going.
But don't forget Cycloned too if it's doable for you. Even with just a single copy of Katrina, scaling tokens will make them hit harder than anything else in this deck.
4:27 normal token spam builds don’t take off turns when you call a Honoly. You can comfortably use your CB on your own Honoly.
Apologies if I misspoke! I meant when they drop multiple Honolies in a single turn. Even if they were to call only one Honoly, they'd still be swinging lower by trading in bigger numbers for more defense (assuming Katrina turn).
@@casualzonecfv true, but that’s true with a lot of Katrina turns. The deck usually calls SOMETHING defensive if it’s not trying to win.
I agree. I was only trying to emphasize that Musketeers can continue to push even after calling a Honoly without hurting themselves. It's so perfect that they can lock it right after the 4th attack on the Katrina turn. The only thing that would hurt from a Honoly is not leaving a token to lock instead for more highroll plays, which really doesn't come up often anyways.
5:38 why flip Antero instead of running the other Musketeer stride? You have the slots for it.
Space has actually gotten rather limited since we got Virginal Cecilia. In practical situations, I can see Inverno and even the 3rd Katrina not coming up so they have a chance to be cut. In which case, I'd fill it out with more utility and not the other Musketeers Strides as I don't want to dedicate too much space to Strides that are essentially just flip fodder. Antero is still useful should I decide not to flip him.
Why do you need Bracing Angel Ladder if you have Favila?
Ladder can also shut down or severely slow down certain control that turn and the turn after, which could be key, like Narukami, Shiranui, LJ or Kagero. While at all times not super needed against every control matchup, it definitely makes the Narukami match a lot bearable.
Plus the extra 5k on every Cecilia reride is nice
Musketeers needs a full board to really go off making them quite fragile. Favila is sometimes just not enough, especially against decks that can disrupt multiple times in a turn. Angel Ladder is turn-wide. For now, I decided to play both to be safe until my local meta deviates from disruption heavy decks.
Agreed! Also with Granblue being one of the best and most popular decks right now, Cannoneer hurts a lot. Not to mention, a double Cannoneer play that will just shut down the entire turn.
Bracing Angel Ladder is a MUST for musketeer when the top 5 decks all have Battle Phase RG disruption, Favila only protect your first Reverse Cecilia from getting interruption (what if you top 5 and got another one, Bracing Angel Ladder ensures that you can keep the momentum going)