Thanks DJ RR and Moustouch TM for making this Video based on my question. So fast! Really appreciate it and impressed! Junlong An is my name. DJ RR pronounced it right when another video was made based on my another question about when PO was created. But this time I was called longlonglulu as shown in my RUclips, sad 😥...just kidding 😂... really helpful for understanding difference between PO and PM -- there is no difference in fact based on your video as long as the accountability is fulfilled in...love it! Will continue to follow this excellent channel and hope more people will learn from you like me.... Junlong An (next time hope it's pronounced right,which I can brag about it to my daughter...some famous people made this video for me...hear my name? 🤣 )
In some organization, they treat Product Manager as someone who manages Product Owners, they are responsible that their Product Owners are also aligned to the expectations from their product. Product Manager don’t do prioritization but works instead with business executive about the organizations strategy. Does this means, we cannot treat them as “real” Product Manager?
I've also see this structure and it's really semantics. What you've described could be deemed a Snr Product Owner who has 1 or more POs reporting to them. In another business, that person could be a PdM.
This is such a polarising topic but you both handled it well. I always think if you take a PO and drop them in a non-agile environment, what are they? A Product Manager 😜 Plus, most think POs are constantly writing and refining stories. They speak to customers, analyse data, work on strategy etc. Sounds like a role I know...
Nice Ryan and Todd, yes and... if I can add my take, Product Manager has accountabilites, I see it that these accountabilities are shared accross the "whole" scrum team, one team, all responsible for one product. Maybe I do not know what a Product Manager is :D
I have a question. How do you create product roadmaps with scrum? We're all about adapting, and long term plans have a huge chance of getting changed or delayed, i've suggested the POs that work with me to take a goal based approach to roadmap, focusing on what problems we need to solve in the product instead of what features we will deliver, but estimating when it will be delivered seems a bit more complicated for short term we can estimate based in velocity, for long term it gets harder since product backlog will change a lot in a year. I've heard about an approach called "now/next/later" (where you say your priorities in the roadmap instead of saying when it will be done) but we still suffer pressure to delivery dates.
Thanks for providing clarity to both the same and important role(s) in Scrum or Agile for that matter.
Great video, I'm studing Scrum and it helped me a lot.
Thanks DJ RR and Moustouch TM for making this Video based on my question. So fast! Really appreciate it and impressed! Junlong An is my name. DJ RR pronounced it right when another video was made based on my another question about when PO was created. But this time I was called longlonglulu as shown in my RUclips, sad 😥...just kidding 😂... really helpful for understanding difference between PO and PM -- there is no difference in fact based on your video as long as the accountability is fulfilled in...love it! Will continue to follow this excellent channel and hope more people will learn from you like me....
Junlong An (next time hope it's pronounced right,which I can brag about it to my daughter...some famous people made this video for me...hear my name? 🤣 )
In some organization, they treat Product Manager as someone who manages Product Owners, they are responsible that their Product Owners are also aligned to the expectations from their product. Product Manager don’t do prioritization but works instead with business executive about the organizations strategy. Does this means, we cannot treat them as “real” Product Manager?
I've also see this structure and it's really semantics. What you've described could be deemed a Snr Product Owner who has 1 or more POs reporting to them. In another business, that person could be a PdM.
This is such a polarising topic but you both handled it well. I always think if you take a PO and drop them in a non-agile environment, what are they? A Product Manager 😜 Plus, most think POs are constantly writing and refining stories. They speak to customers, analyse data, work on strategy etc. Sounds like a role I know...
Great episode! 👍🏼
Q. How does the Product Owner exhibits effective Product Ownership?
Nice Ryan and Todd, yes and... if I can add my take, Product Manager has accountabilites, I see it that these accountabilities are shared accross the "whole" scrum team, one team, all responsible for one product. Maybe I do not know what a Product Manager is :D
I have a question. How do you create product roadmaps with scrum? We're all about adapting, and long term plans have a huge chance of getting changed or delayed, i've suggested the POs that work with me to take a goal based approach to roadmap, focusing on what problems we need to solve in the product instead of what features we will deliver, but estimating when it will be delivered seems a bit more complicated for short term we can estimate based in velocity, for long term it gets harder since product backlog will change a lot in a year. I've heard about an approach called "now/next/later" (where you say your priorities in the roadmap instead of saying when it will be done) but we still suffer pressure to delivery dates.
Now I am more confused than before 😢
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