Battlefield 4 - AR160 Review: The New Long Range Assault Rifle?
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- Hey guys total we're going to take a look at the latest Assault Rifle addition to Battlefield 4.
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How Levelcap picks his weapons:
Damage
Fire rate
recoil
ammo capacity
Reload speed
Max/min damage
How I pick my weapons:
IT FIRE BULLET, BULLET MAKE HURT.
How I pick my weapons:
If it feels right to me then I'm gonna use it.
Yea! because it really depends on your play style. If you like to move around quickly a lot you would want fire rate. But if you are a team player who covers your squad, this gun is totally fine.
I kind of like this gun. It feels right.
Lol
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"PatchTheNetcode" Loving the name LevelCap hahahhaha
I don't know what level cap is talking about. I instantly labelled this as my try hard gun. I do extremely well with it. It's a great all around gun.
Maybe the Ar160 is a gun targeted to us consoleros, since medium firerate weapons are relatively popular around here
Thank you for justifying the weapon, but I'm PS4 player and I can control Famas with no problems... No Offence, but weapons recoil management Is a skill for good player, not because you're using a mouse or controller.
I agree...it's a lot tougher to counter recoil with an analog stick than it is to counter recoil with a mouse. Guns with a medium rate of fire make life so much easier haha
Well unless you have a controller that has completely shot analog sticks, then recoil control should not be that difficult on consoles. I will agree that recoil control is much easier with a mouse, but a controller does not hinder the weapon choice that much. I personally use the Famas as my preferred assault rifle, and I have no problem with a controller despite it's mule-kick recoil.
Not really, I mean that's basically what the SAR-21 is for. Slower RoF sure, but it's got the best muzzle velocity and the lowest recoil of all the AR's.
The SAR is and shall remain in all likelihood (at least for me) the go-to weapon for long range AR battles. The SCAR-H is great for anyone who can control the recoil (particularly since it's also much better than the SAR in close range if need be) but I much prefer the SAR.
It'd be nice if just once we could get a high RoF 7.62 AR but that's likely never happening.
Arkadij Ununpentium
So do I, but a lot of my buddies struggle with recoil control, especially back when we played ps3 without the carved in sticks.
I want the SCAR-L back, that was my everything gun and my baby.
You can unlock battlepacks for the gun, btw. Just have to access it in the game instead of battlelog.
Lvlcap, I have a suggestion. You should record a first reactions version of weapon reviews where you just use the gun, don't look at stats, and say how well it feels performance wise. Afterwards research the stats and begin reviewing the weapon accordingly. I feel you are too attached to stats of weapons and this could add a little more to your weapon reviews and mix things up! Love the vids as always.
Loadout:
Operation Hipfire
AS VAL
Ergo Grip
Green Laser or Tri Beam Laser
Kobra sight
G18
Laser
Suppressor
Regular Optics
Stinger Launcher
M2 Slams or Repair tool
M18 Smoke
Offensive perk for Extra speed and Ammo
Try to hipfire as much as you can, the PDW's have the best hipfire accuracy and with the AS VAL's built in suppressor you can be stealthy about it.
The Smoke grenades hide the doorway so you can jump out and spray all day!
The G18 is your trusty sidearm, and with the terrible stock optics you are forced to hipfire.
Have Fun!
In all honesty, I think they are going to change the recoil stats of this weapon. According to Symthic, it's recoil and spread values are identical to the Scar-h. I believe DICE just put these in as place-holders for this weapon until the gun is complete and ready for the Naval Strike DLC. They haven't even put in an empty reload animation so they are obviously not finished with the weapon xD Also, in comparison with the other 700 rof weapons I don't think DICE would give this gun substantially more recoil than them when they serve such similar roles on the battlefield.
I loved this gun I used it all the time and I mastered it. The load out I used was an hd-33 sight, laser light combo, ergo grip and mussel break, worked good with those .
i think lvlcap needs to redo all of his weapon reviews all the guns have changed some in very major ways like this one!!
This gun is amazing imo. They released a patch that fixes the empty reload, and it has quickly become my go-to weapon now.
I actually like to throw a heavy barrel on this gun with no underbarrel attachment (no grip simply cuz i dont like the way they hold grips in this game, and i really care about the gun's aesthetics). its fantastic at range for me cuz i seem to be really good with recoil control and didnt even know it lol. I was just doing it subconsciously :P
While the weapon battlepacks show as bronze battlepacks on Battlelog, the unlocked attachments will show when in game. They also do show when you open the battlepack from the menu in game.
My AR160 Setup:
AR160
Kobra Sight
No Accessory
Flash Hider
Stubby Grip
***** I dont even use a red dot most of the time, the iron sights are so insanely pointy and small that they are really accurate
Why don't people use the 2x magnifier. No downsides, and helps at longer range
Oscar Abdat I love rocking the 2X Magnifier w/ the Holo Sight on the M416.
Falcon-X that is what I do, except in use the hd33
+Falcon-X I would recomend this loadout since I reach 3457 kills with it:
Optics: HD-33
Barrel: Heavy Barrel
Accessory: Tri-Beam Laser(or any Laser Sight)
Under barrel: Potato Grip(or Stubby Grip)
Note: Tap fire on longer ranges and full auto on 50 to 0 meters
its weird that it shoots the same bullet like a m4 but works like a scar
I have unconditional love for the f2000, even if it sucks im still going to love it
F2000 is my favorite weapon in the game. It doesn't suck, it just takes higher than average reflexes to use it in an efficient manner. Pretty much was the only thing I used since I unlocked it. Only reason I'm not using it right now is because I'm getting the first service star on the unlockable NS weapons so I can feel them out well enough to "I like this" or "I dislike this" properly.
I unlocked this gun yesterday and I'm kinda in love with it... I like medium ROF guns for more control and precision. It entered my top 3 assault rifles to pick whenever I play that is #1 SCAR-H, #2 L85A2 and the #3 AR-160.
I really hope, that they include G36 variations and the SCAR-L in future patches.
The ARX, in reality, is definitely an impressively designed weapon- fully ambidextrous, tool-less modularity, etc. But I have to disagree on the appearance- the thing looks like a Tuna Fish with rail space.
"the thing looks like a Tuna Fish with rail space"
Well, it IS a "naval" based DLC..
XD
Monday Loadout: The Call of Duty: Ghosts ARX160 Class Setup
AR160
US Red Dot Sight
Laser Sight (Regular)
Stubby Grip (Due to its recoil)
Muzzle Break
Assault Perks
In CoD: Ghosts, the ARX160 is a weapon thatt has a built in laser sight, but not in BF4. It has similar traits in both games sharing faster than average fire rate and good hipfire. A muzzle break and a Grip (Stubby Grip) is one of the two attachment setups that people use. I hope it gets put on a Monday Loadout which I watch all the time. I am both a CoD and a BF fan who shares the same love for the two games just how you love the Battlefield series. Keep up the good work LevelCap.
Please don't make me look at any more 30 second long ads with Joseph Gordon levit in them
LevelCapGaming
not really sure,but i think people to unlock the battlepacks opens them in game,not on the battlelog,so just get in a random round,press esc,battlepacks and open your newly-acquired battlepacks,hat worked with the second assault battlepacks as well.
Hey LvlCap! :)
***** :)
You can access the battlepack with the battlelog, it doesn't show all the stuff unlock but you can equip them game!
LvlCap you can access the Battlepacks for the AR160 just fine, by opening them *ingame*. You can unlock and use all the attachments that way.
SG553 vs. ACW-R comparison please! They both seem so similar and I would like you to break them down to analyze the Symthic Stats
sg553, is better for range imo and acw-r is better for cqb. I kinda like the sg553 tho, high enough firerate and no recoil what so ever with iron sights.
hi. i made that thread on symthic forums. as of right now, the AR160 and SR2 can both be considered "placeholders", since they have copy+pasted stats from the SCAR-H and CBJ(but faster ROF) respectively. i fully expect that once the DLC actually drops, their stats will be changed to something else.
I actually liked the Iron sights
With the assignment name and requirements I was expecting a gun like the SCAR-H that you could use as either a high damage AR or as an accurate DMR. The recoil pattern, in my mind, agrees with the idea of an "Automatic DMR", if that makes any sense. It has a low first shot recoil multiplier as well as low side-to-side recoil so the only thing I would have to maintain is the muzzle climb. The damage model needs a slight buff(maybe a 30-32DMG maximum?) and they need to fix the attachment placements, but those are my only issues with it at this point.
Lets make all the new guns super good so that non premium users can't compete, AWESOME.
LevelCap spend half the video explaining how this gun will not beat about every assault rifle in the game. The only guns it actually competes with is CZ-805, Sar-21 in close to medium range, QBS-95-1 and AK-12. The rest Assault Rifles either beat it on long range like the Scar-H and the Sar-21 where as Famas, AEK and F2000 will beat it easily in close quarters.
So yeah, I don't know where the hell you think that Premium users are actually gaining from this gun being exclusive to non premium users.
not even close, there are plenty of vanilla guns that are better.
You can open battlepacks while in game, press esc and go into the battlepacks opion.
i like the iron sights.
Are you blind?
Col. John Casey
I suppose he's not if he uses sights.
It would be nice if there was another recoil chart on Symthic that factored in the rate of fire and first shot. LevelCap has mentioned before that slow fire rate guns with apparent high recoil numbers are more accurate than you think, but it would be good to have a good comparison. It would also be helpful to know how long after experiencing a kick it will take the center again.
Unlike most, I am glad to hear that it is crappy. I'm the type of player who likes to use the worst guns so I can handicap myself. Makes for a good challenge (and backs up my trash talk :P)
Me too. love using stuff like the cbj-ms, or because in console people are not as good in controling recoil FAMAS with a heavy barrel.
in bf3 i used the lsat ALOT and i achived 43 ss it was the best thing ever.
Just a quick note. you actually can unlock sights through battlepacks. you just have to open the packs while playing in game. press esc, and choose "battlepacks". voila, there ya go!
I personaly like the looks of the gun and i would use it if i had it,in my case i can adapt to any gun, as logn as it looks good to me.
you can open the battlepacks in-game. Just press esc and the click on battlepacks. This way you can open the packs
Level please no bullshit army loadouts this week, thanks
I like how you mentioned being passionate for a weapon as a reason to use it... cause honestly that does factor in. When I'm playing the game, sure I want a functional gun, but I also want to feel like a badass and love the aesthetics of what I'm carrying. For me, I love the look of bullpups, so I tend to use the AUG or the L85... only switching to something like the AEK or 416 if I'm really frustrated and want to trash some people.
SCAR-H is the best.
Ace 23 is better noob
AJ Delaney
Please stop this shit...
AJ Delaney If you use the ACE 23 then it's clear that you sir, are the noob...
AJ Delaney How can you even compare the Ace 23 to the SCAR-H. It's 5.56x45 vs 7.62x51. I bet you've never even fired a .308 in real life. It's rock n' roll.
MykTheOccultist hell yeah, thats america. A guy which looks like a cousin of a jonas brother is so manful and shoota with guns and compare it to games.
I do a lot of soldier loadouts. For example if I have the L85A2 then I'm doing a British soldier layout. The AR-160 is my Italian army grunt loadout. I love this gun. Many guns people say is trash I find myself doing quite well with. I like the underdog guns. Anyone can use the M416 or the ACE-23 or the AEK-971. Some guns just take a little time to master.
+Sawdisc Master all your options are DLC weapons lol asf
Just to let you know, the L85A2 is one of the best ARs in the game, it's definitely not an underdog gun. A lot of people think it's better than the 416
+Tre Rowe The L85 has less first shot recoil and less horizontal recoil. That's why a lot of people prefer it.
+Tre Rowe It probably has the lowest first shot recoil out of all the ARs that fire at 750 RPM or more. That's really big
+Tre Rowe Yeah, it's reload isn't great but it's very manageable. It isn't like the famas or the F2000
the iron sights are the complete opposite of miserable
I know its way late but couldnt agree more. those iron sights on the ar160 make the aek and m416 sights look even worse than they already do. usually i get a weapon and the first 10 kills to unlock the rds are really fucking difficult i got the ar160 and didnt even put the rds on till i had the angled grip
Hey Levelcap I have already got 4 battlepacks for the AR160 you can open them ingame in the esc menu. In Battlelog as you may noticed you only get bronze battlepacks but they get weapon battlepacks when you open them ingame.
I really think we need another scar h damage model ar added to the game
yea definitely! the G3A3 from BF3 (or FN FAL) could be the perfect choice. but compared to the SCAR-H, it should have maybe less firerate, but lower recoil and more accuracy
acequat I wanna see an M14 or M14 variant for the assault kit.
Darude - Sandstorm
Thatswhat the Bulldog is
I use the Prisma 3.4x sight, angled grip, a muzzle break and only ever use it in SEMI AUTO.
Its my favourite set up in the game.
you seem to come up against really bad players in this gaming footage, Whenever I get into close quarters I get killed in one or two shots by someone with a type 88 or an AWS every time
These youtubers only show good footage they really arnt that good either that or it's scripted
Just a tip level, you can open the battlepacks you get for the DLC weapons in game.
when your looking at your player model holding the gun... you have to admit that it looks like a toy
"Some people get really excited over certain guns they have a passion for and will use them no matter what their in-game stats are." So true. For me in BF3, they were the SG553 carbine (which was kind of mediocre in BF3 but is now excellent in BF4) and the LSAT LMG (terrible in BF3 and now mediocre but usable in BF4)
*the exact opposite of the one in ghosts...*
He's right about the iron sights, they remind me of M3A1 grease gun/Mac 10 iron sights. All the same, this was a fun video.
SCAR-H is better than AR160
I think Scar H like a carbine version of DMR
SCAR-H was carbine in BF3
***** The SCAR-H or MK-17 is an Assault Rifle chambered in 7.62 mm. The "SCAR-H SV" is just a MK-17 with a longer barrel. The real sniper variant would be the MK-20.
4:30 wallguy in the killfeed. Epic RUclipsr
BR1G4DI3R is the embarresment of the dominican republic
poor fat ass!
most definately
i would agreee
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Its probably just me but i decided to switch over from the ace 23 to the ar160 and I've been doing incredible with it. Almost every game I play with it I'm at the top of the leaderboards. So really this gun just depends on your play style.
The iron sights are disgusting
the key to this amazing weapon is stability, you want to get its stability up, the recoil may be a problem but its worth to shoot from the chest so the kick takes it to the head. i do wish they made it more like the real life version
after reading these comments, safe to say the battlefield community is just as bad as the COD community.
this was supposed to go on the M320 3GL video but my browser decided to go back a few videos, completely at random.
Rather than getting the 3GL I wish they would just allow me to put slugs AND buckshot in my UTS so I could swap between long range and close quarters as the situation requires. I could even do the animation for it if they wanted me to, it's really simple.
There's a toggle switch just behind the tubes that would normally be set in the middle, but if you flip it to one side or the other it blocks that side so you can put slugs in one side and your 'shot in the other and swap depending on the distance to your target. If you already have a shell in the chamber you can just pump it out, same as you would a spent shell and just put it back in with the others of the same type.
The same thing should be possible with the M320 since it's single shot, the animation would be exactly the same as reloading, just with you extracting the unspent round and then loading in the new type
Try hard pants.
When he said "Do you wanna use the SCAR-H" I instantly heard in my head "Do you wanna build a snowman?" I'm so sold on that movie...
Damn I'm early.
I don't know if they buffed this gun since the video but I finally started using it today, after unlocking it as soon as NS hit for premiums, and (on PS3 at least) it seems with angled grip and muzzle brake or no barrel mods this thing is a tap fire beast. Sure, the SCAR-H could be better cause of the better damage profile but this could work if you want a gun that is slightly better at cqc/hipfiring enemies too close.
The gun isn't that good.
5:45 until you talk to the situational guns makes this your best video yet LC. Great video man; please speak to situational guns like this in all your videos dealing with loadouts!
:D
Interestingly, the Arx160 from Beretta is in .22 lr. It's the Arx100 that is in 5.56. Not sure why they would screw the numbering up that badly.
try hard pants? were can i buy these XD
Gamemart $5.99
gz that expensive
It's worth it 100-0 gameplay with them on
LOL
Maybe it'll be a gadget in the next DLC
To open battle pack, you can pause in the game and you will find battlepack in the pause menu
AR160 = junk
Should have been the AN94.
***** go to bf3
Killerkumfy P-90 Recon of Death FTW!
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Are you serious? You do realize the AN-94 was in BF3 right?
I don't think judging a gun that hasn't even been officially released into the game is clever.
was no one else wondering how you unlock it thanks for telling us levelcap
You can't open Battlepacks for the new weapons via battlelog, but you CAN via ingame-menu though ;)
Hey LevelCap. You can open the battlepacks for the new weapons from inside the game. So you can still get all the other scopes, grips, etc for the new guns!
please make a "favorite weapons & attachments for each class" - video!
Dear Levelcap,
you can open DLC-Guns-Battlepacks ingame. Open the menu(ESC) and look in the Battlepackmenu...
I unlocked the ARX 160 yesterday, I love it so much. I'm getting me an airsoft version of the ARX :) The unlocking process (Spare Time Sniper) helped me drop/kill people a lot better.
+injustize you can play with it if you have premium and play on an unranked server.
Just noticed your ingame nickname hahahahaha you're a real hero.
you can open the battlepacks ingame, so you have all the scopes and stuff unlocked ^^
I would like to see the tar 21, g36mg, Barrett m95 ksg12 and HERA 1911. Would be cool additions to the game.
Actually the angled grip might be the best attachement for this gun especially for tap firing/long range. The .5x vertical recoil mulitplied by 1.6 is .8x first shot recoil. With the .33 recoil reduction (.264) then .8-.264 is .536, making it nearly dead even with its normal .5 recoil which imo is better than having simply low recoil, as the FSR might be different leading to awkward recoil management. Slap a muzzle break on here and the vert recoil goes down to .375, and the first shot recoil is now .6, then taking into acount the angled grip now the FSR is a little north of .4 compared with it direct competition(scarh, and aug) id say that this gun needs a lil buff, maybe drop the recoil down to .4 and a lower FSR woul really make it the long range bomber dice wants.
Considering how the dlc isnt out yet, the stats are copy pasted from scar-h for the most part, and that the long reload animation isnt there, ever thought that the gun isnt finished and its a bug that you can unlock it at the moment? It says in the asignment you need the DLC to unlock it so... not sure.
I noticed Dice has not added any dmr's in any map packs yet. I wonder if the m417 will be back in Dragons Teeth.
I Unlocked this last night and already I'm in love with it.
Beretta originally designed this to be like the scar h model it SHOULD not saying it IS the exactly the same it should be roughly around same statistics and also if you look at the arx160 or what ever you want to call it it has a similar body design to the scar and it does kind of function the same way...but I reckon they did copy and paste the same stuff
LevelCapGaming Maybe they should have made some guns faction specific:
- That way rifles could have different looks, but copypasted competitive viable stats.
- They could have 3 different versions, which share unlock progression and roles
- Not the best solution for uniqueness, but increases visual variety & immersiveness
You are able to get the battlepacks for the guns. I have everything for the AWS after the first day it was released.
Lvlcap make a review for the magnum 44 because he got updated
Considering the SCAR-H is my fav AR in this game I should LOVE this gun and somebody else said it is taking the AN-94's place as the long range assault rifle. Welp, I'm in love.
OMG and high recoil but low first shot recoil this is amazing burst fire like BAD COMPANY 2 BABY!!!
GraphiteBlimp Burst fire? O.o
GraphiteBlimp AN-94 was my favorite weapown on BC2 and BF3. Do you think I'm gonna like the AR160?
Well idk if this gun has burst as a feature but manually bursting works well. I haven't ever used the AR160 yet but I'll go for it this weekend once I get mid terms done and can play.
I believe LevelCap has said something like this before but i feel that DICE sometimes adds guns that aren't necessary and because there are so many guns being added not all of them can serve a purpose.
So far from what I see, this gun behaves similarly to the CZ 805 but with slightly higher recoil. While that's not 'bad' news, being that I really enjoy using the CZ 805, it's not great news either. That .5 vertical recoil gives a lot of other weapons in it's category a distinct advantage. I think it would be much better balanced if they gave it a .4 vertical recoil, or maybe even a .3 upward pull, a .2 rightward pull, and a .1 leftward pull. That would give the gun a moderately low vertical recoil with a slight pull to the right, which could be corrected by putting on a compensator. Those stats would definitely make it more balanced.
Actually, I think a .32 upward pull, .35 rightward pull, and .21 leftward pull would be the perfect recoil pattern for this gun. DICE should really consider putting in those stats.
Ralfufigus I agree.
*****
With the stats I gave in my second comment, it would not have a bouncy side-to-side recoil, as I do detest that kind of recoil myself. Instead, it would have a slow-but-steady climb slightly pulling to the right. Of course, there would be a tiny amount of horizontal sway, but not enough to really affect gameplay. I feel that would be a good compromise for PC and console players, as you just have to pull down and to the left with both the mouse and analog sticks.
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But I do agree that the spread increase should be tweaked. It seems this weapon is supposed to be tailored to outperform other assault rifles in long range engagements. A rifle chambered in 5.56 should have considerably less spread than how it is portrayed. Someone below pointed out that the weapon stats for the AR160 could just be placeholders used until the rest of the animations are created. It is very likely that this gun's stats will change with the official release of Naval Strike.
Yeah, I hope that the stats are currently placeholders until the full DLC comes out.
ARX is my favorite gun in bf4 I smack kiss who use the AEK or Famas all most every time. And what you forgot about us the bullet spread and velocity of the gun it's best in its class for the bullets hitting your target. It's very competitive in CQ or TDM even Rush. Its decent in Dom but as you know all most every one uses the AEK in Dom..so
Interview the PDWR. ( Personal Defense Weapon Rifle ) It is the best smg in the game. It has great hip fire accuracy. You would kick ass with it
I hope they give this weapon a buff so that it destroys at medium-Long range for an AR. I freaking love this weapon and really hope they make it top notch.
this is currently what i'm using for Assault class.
but i still have to use medium range scopes for it.
I love that lvlcap does his homework Thanks:)
Funny about that Asgi is getting the gun in about 1.5 weeks from today
I have 2,000+ kills with this thing and it sucks. I always use this when I'm not trying hard, which is not a lot, mainly because it looks badass and I have the airsoft ARX-160. Ever since I got it I new it was bad. I just had a weird passion for it as LevelCap covered in the video.
ya can't get naval strike guns on PS4. it shows them in assignments and when you select your weapons in game but you can't unlock them until you get naval strike
Load out
Support
LMG SNIPER Silent
Type 88
Any 4x scope
Laser sight
Any silencer I think that's how you spell it if not sy
Erog grip
Somke or flash
Claymore
Ammo box
Play like agerasive sniper but at the same time like a run and gun lmg