I could have watched you a whole minute of this track and talk for hours on it, excellent analysis and tips! JW is an absolute master of the orchestration and melody.
These videos you and Christian have been putting out since BBCSO launched are just mind blowing. This kind of education would have cost a small fortune only a decade ago! Thanks for making these! I’m certainly guilty of sticking too rigidly to individual scales, going to have to give this a go!
Thank you so much. I think this the best you do to promote spitfire. For educated people like us who looking to learn about orchestration in professional way. Please do more I search so much online to find good courses never found. 👍
Wow, awesome video, thank you very much for all this insight and information. The presentation is flawless as always. Also, this is the first time I'm blown away by hearing that Library! Really amazing here!
Hi Paul, thank you very much! Your content is absolutely incredible, I've learned so much from your videos so far! Please do more of these videos. If you should offer an orchestration course in the future, I will buy it immediately.
Your videos are really good. I've got so many tips and tricks. Sometimes it's just subtle things, but it really matters to get the sound i want. Thanks! 👍👍
Amazing! I love watching videos like this so I hope you’ll do more. I’ve watched a bunch of your videos and I’m learning and applying them to pop music that I hope I dare to share with you and the rest of the world one day. Keep up the great work Paul. Huge fan!
Haven't even finished the episode yet, and I already can't wait for the next episode of this. An excellent first step for the promise of the BBCSO. Wish I didn't have to pick between an education or all the tools! The pricing is unbelievable for what you get with this, so I might just have a chance of both.
Fleece on, eh. It's gotten a lot colder this past week here, hasn't it? Got a thick wool sweater and dressing gown on. Whenever I hear the melodic minor scale I visualize Schwarzeneggar in The Running Man. No doubt the triangle tremolo thing has been used a fair bit, and it's a great tool. I immediately remembered it's also used in Basil Pouledouris' fantastic score for Conan the Barbarian (perhaps a Schwarzeneggar film theme video might make a fun video, haha.). The specific track is Orphans of Doom and it is the final cue in the movie, if I memory serves. I become more and more unhappy with some of my current sample libraries the more I hear these. Thanks for another video.
The fluid interplay between Major/Minor is common in Bach's music, if you play WTC for example you'll see that he commonly will move from the dominant key to the opposite back and forth, frequently as quickly as the first few bars. Other composers such as Mozart I think tended to stay closer to the home key with explicit modulations.
Thank you Paul! Intuitively I used cross rhythms, triplets over quarter notes in my recent piece as a competition entry in FB Composer challenges group. Wow! I think that triplets surely add dynamics
Brilliant video Paul - some really interesting and exciting considerations to try out in our own compositions, especially when scoring for brass (which I think a lot of us find quite difficult at times!) 👍🏻
You and Christian are going to put music colleges out of business if you carry on with this RUclips malarkey. Thank you for these videos they are immensely useful.
I don't know why it is....I always think my next library won't be a Spitfire...then I look for the things I want to write and the I always end up looking at Spitfire for feel and realism! By the way Paul as you are doing already a lot of educational stuff and Spitfire does a lot of cool things as well, make a online school for composing. Or even a real little school. :)
Insightful Paul! This is a great series! As a Logic user is there anyway of quantising irregular groupings found all over JW score such as a quintuplet or septuplet? Keep up the fab work! J
Great video - I'd suggest that the scale you talk about is better functionally seen as a F mixolydian b6 - because it's over the Fs in the lower brass, and that neatly makes the pickup a 'V I' resolution, the chords being F7b13 resolving to Bb. The b13 adds an additional layer of semitonal gravity to the major third in the Bb chord. But maybe I'm only looking it that way because I'm a jazzer!
That intro has to be the one of the most powerful intro's of all time. It's amazing how you get the library to sound like this cos I struggle with the mixing side but i'm not really an engineer lol It is great to see these tutorials so thanks for that. The library sound amazing :)
Excellent tutorial, Paul, but my wife asked if you could please make your voice a bit louder so that I don't deafen her when the music plays (I'm paraphrasing, her version was more sweary)
I almost feel like a thief for watching this for free. Is there anyway to lock the multi tongue to the host tempo? Amazing stuff, Paul (and Mr. Williams of course) Many thanks!
@@PaulThomsonMusic good to know. I'll figure out how to do that. I've always used just staccatos and have gotten decent results, but I'm sure the multi tongue would be much better in some situations
Very well made and informative, however quadruple tounging is not a thing. As a brass player, you have single tongue (da da da da), double tongue (da ga da ga), and triple tongue (da da ga or da ga da). Anything else is just a combination of those three.
@@MikeRolls I think it comes down to your level of music education and training man - maybe if you're struggling to get it from this video you should start with some more basic music theory stuff and then these vids will be easier to follow.
@@MikeRolls Well I have perfect pitch so to me I can just 'hear' it, but if you don't then you can tell from the scales that are talked about etc. One thing to learn to do is to recognise chord qualities (major, minor, dominant, diminished etc) by sound alone.
While I admire the attempt here, this video is teaching from a very "classically" trained perspective. It would be nice in the future if you could provide visual examples via Screen Capture of the concepts you are describing. Your explanations reflect your background which alienates quite a few. I've certainly analyzed this piece to death and totally agree with some of the points you are making. However, some of your explanations were a bit confusing. In the future, could you share the musical examples audibly in a more naked environment and down tempo perhaps? I think this would translate to the lay-person who doesn't have the training to better understand the points you are making. It would have been awesome if you demonstrated what the brass would have sounded like without the quadruple tonguing, how the run would have sounded if it were a simple major scale, and how much energy that triangle really brings to that opening by muting it. Etc. Anyway, I look forward to more content and can't wait to see more about your studio build. Best, -C
Anyone get immediate shivers and excitement on that first note?
Nice. The secret weapon is...John Williams! LOL...
Pretty much :D
@@J-MLindeMusic Yep!
How did I never see this before!!!!! (almost 5 years late) So great you did this! Thanks so much!!!
Oh God please more like this. This was like a drop of water to someone dying of thirst.
Really interesting !! Brilliant !! Thank you so much !!
I could have watched you a whole minute of this track and talk for hours on it, excellent analysis and tips! JW is an absolute master of the orchestration and melody.
Lots more of this please Paul! Excellent work my young Padwan learner!!!!
These videos you and Christian have been putting out since BBCSO launched are just mind blowing. This kind of education would have cost a small fortune only a decade ago! Thanks for making these! I’m certainly guilty of sticking too rigidly to individual scales, going to have to give this a go!
Thank you so much. I think this the best you do to promote spitfire. For educated people like us who looking to learn about orchestration in professional way. Please do more I search so much online to find good courses never found. 👍
Very nice, Paul. Love it. You are a master teacher. Thank you for teaching us so much about music!!
The details on the video are just amazing! Great job Paul can't wait for more content
Really love and appreciate your insights on this Paul !
Good for you! That "other" mock-up was devastating and a good example of bad mock-ups vs good mock-ups. Correcting the ship.
This sounds amazing.
More awesome insight really well delivered... thank you so much
OMG. I don't think I have heard anything like this ever come out of a computer.
Great stuff Paul. This series is already proving really helpful.
Wow, awesome video, thank you very much for all this insight and information. The presentation is flawless as always.
Also, this is the first time I'm blown away by hearing that Library! Really amazing here!
Awesome insights! Thanks for sharing these findings Paul!
Thanks Yaman!
Gold as usual, loving the new contents of your channel Paul! Keep bringing this content to us, thank you!
Hi Paul, thank you very much! Your content is absolutely incredible, I've learned so much from your videos so far! Please do more of these videos. If you should offer an orchestration course in the future, I will buy it immediately.
Sounds amazing Paul thanks for sharing. Cant wait to get my hands on the symphony orchestra pack one day !
Very useful and requires some more viewings to extract the full information. Thank you Paul, more please.
Great video thanks Paul, wow would never have noticed the woods run as melodic minor
Your videos are really good. I've got so many tips and tricks. Sometimes it's just subtle things, but it really matters to get the sound i want. Thanks! 👍👍
Amazing! I love watching videos like this so I hope you’ll do more. I’ve watched a bunch of your videos and I’m learning and applying them to pop music that I hope I dare to share with you and the rest of the world one day. Keep up the great work Paul. Huge fan!
Haven't even finished the episode yet, and I already can't wait for the next episode of this. An excellent first step for the promise of the BBCSO. Wish I didn't have to pick between an education or all the tools! The pricing is unbelievable for what you get with this, so I might just have a chance of both.
Awesome job Paul, MORE! (Whenever you have the time, that is. :D)
Amazing video! Was very informative. Thank you!
Fleece on, eh. It's gotten a lot colder this past week here, hasn't it? Got a thick wool sweater and dressing gown on.
Whenever I hear the melodic minor scale I visualize Schwarzeneggar in The Running Man. No doubt the triangle tremolo thing has been used a fair bit, and it's a great tool. I immediately remembered it's also used in Basil Pouledouris' fantastic score for Conan the Barbarian (perhaps a Schwarzeneggar film theme video might make a fun video, haha.). The specific track is Orphans of Doom and it is the final cue in the movie, if I memory serves.
I become more and more unhappy with some of my current sample libraries the more I hear these. Thanks for another video.
#mindblown That triple tongue combo and the melodic minor scale run to that major opening chord. Fab video and thanks for the inspiration!
looking good with the glasses paul
The fluid interplay between Major/Minor is common in Bach's music, if you play WTC for example you'll see that he commonly will move from the dominant key to the opposite back and forth, frequently as quickly as the first few bars. Other composers such as Mozart I think tended to stay closer to the home key with explicit modulations.
Thank you Paul! Intuitively I used cross rhythms, triplets over quarter notes in my recent piece as a competition entry in FB Composer challenges group. Wow! I think that triplets surely add dynamics
Brilliant video Paul - some really interesting and exciting considerations to try out in our own compositions, especially when scoring for brass (which I think a lot of us find quite difficult at times!) 👍🏻
Wow, until I saw the score in front of you I thought that was transcribed by ear. I was shook for sec. Still impressed by how good it sounds though.
Never clicked anything so fast.
You and Christian are going to put music colleges out of business if you carry on with this RUclips malarkey. Thank you for these videos they are immensely useful.
haha!! thanks for your support!
I don't know why it is....I always think my next library won't be a Spitfire...then I look for the things I want to write and the I always end up looking at Spitfire for feel and realism!
By the way Paul as you are doing already a lot of educational stuff and Spitfire does a lot of cool things as well, make a online school for composing. Or even a real little school. :)
Will you be making another voicing video for brass? That would be amazing. :)
Insightful Paul! This is a great series! As a Logic user is there anyway of quantising irregular groupings found all over JW score such as a quintuplet or septuplet? Keep up the fab work! J
Brilliant Paul :)
Jesus, @Paul Thomson!!!!
I almost had a heart attack when the music came on. What is going on with the -30db vocals vs -5 music?
Excelent!
Very usefulll
Thanks Tomas!
Great video - I'd suggest that the scale you talk about is better functionally seen as a F mixolydian b6 - because it's over the Fs in the lower brass, and that neatly makes the pickup a 'V I' resolution, the chords being F7b13 resolving to Bb. The b13 adds an additional layer of semitonal gravity to the major third in the Bb chord. But maybe I'm only looking it that way because I'm a jazzer!
Interesting. Many thanks:)
After hearing 0:50, my trumpet player self was like, where's the crispy stacattos???
Fantastic stuff Paul. Any chance of sharing just the midi file for this? So eager to dissect!
That would be lovely!
Yes, that would be amazing
Awesome as always, but where did you get that printed score from? @Paul Thomson
That intro has to be the one of the most powerful intro's of all time.
It's amazing how you get the library to sound like this cos I struggle with the mixing side but i'm not really an engineer lol
It is great to see these tutorials so thanks for that.
The library sound amazing :)
Could. You Mind to tell me of your iMacPro configure which is able to run this huge project? Thx.in advance!
What book is this? I’m trying to find one with a bunch of movie themes where it shows the whole orchestras notes
A „blur of excitement“ - I should use this term more often...🤪
Excellent tutorial, Paul, but my wife asked if you could please make your voice a bit louder so that I don't deafen her when the music plays (I'm paraphrasing, her version was more sweary)
I almost feel like a thief for watching this for free. Is there anyway to lock the multi tongue to the host tempo?
Amazing stuff, Paul (and Mr. Williams of course) Many thanks!
Hi Donovan - thanks!! And yes it can be locked and unlocked from host tempo
@@PaulThomsonMusic good to know. I'll figure out how to do that. I've always used just staccatos and have gotten decent results, but I'm sure the multi tongue would be much better in some situations
Thank you Paul, great insights.
Is it my imagination, or is the triangle (tremolo) to a "perfect 5th" above the violin tremolos?
Very well made and informative, however quadruple tounging is not a thing. As a brass player, you have single tongue (da da da da), double tongue (da ga da ga), and triple tongue (da da ga or da ga da). Anything else is just a combination of those three.
Don't the raised 6th & 7th make it a melodic minor in the key of Bb?
Is he not just augmenting V by adding the C#?
Now make a video about Korngold's theme for Kings Row 😎
Didn't John Williams also use an English symphony?.....rhetorical
Extended version where you go through each track and show the instrument/articulation/mics used please!
LORD OF THE RINGS next?
The Shitstorm Starter
But it’s also way better. 😎
@The Shitstorm Starter
Long live the Queen
So... what key is it??
It's in Bb
@@oweneastwood3445 Thanks. I still don't understand why that's supposed to be so obvious! How do you know?
@@MikeRolls I think it comes down to your level of music education and training man - maybe if you're struggling to get it from this video you should start with some more basic music theory stuff and then these vids will be easier to follow.
@@oweneastwood3445 Cheers for the reply, Owen. Yes I'm already working that, but just wondered if someone would explain why it's apparently so clear.
@@MikeRolls Well I have perfect pitch so to me I can just 'hear' it, but if you don't then you can tell from the scales that are talked about etc. One thing to learn to do is to recognise chord qualities (major, minor, dominant, diminished etc) by sound alone.
While I admire the attempt here, this video is teaching from a very "classically" trained perspective. It would be nice in the future if you could provide visual examples via Screen Capture of the concepts you are describing. Your explanations reflect your background which alienates quite a few. I've certainly analyzed this piece to death and totally agree with some of the points you are making. However, some of your explanations were a bit confusing. In the future, could you share the musical examples audibly in a more naked environment and down tempo perhaps? I think this would translate to the lay-person who doesn't have the training to better understand the points you are making.
It would have been awesome if you demonstrated what the brass would have sounded like without the quadruple tonguing, how the run would have sounded if it were a simple major scale, and how much energy that triangle really brings to that opening by muting it. Etc. Anyway, I look forward to more content and can't wait to see more about your studio build. Best, -C