As compared to F16 block 52 there is no doubt J10C is a much better fighter but when you compare with F16 block 70 then may be both are similar in some parameters and in some features J10C will be better and in some F16 block 70 will be better But J10C as compared to Gripen E is definately much better but as compared to Rafale i will go with Rafale F3 still i think with very high quality of pak air force pilots and the price difference between J10C and Rafale J10C much better option for Pak from now on with J10C and JF17 block 3 pak should get at least 36 units of J20 from china in next 3 yrs
My few questions:- Whats about ws 10 (life cycle , mean time between overhaul). 2 - whats about acceleration of j10c 3- whats about sustain turn rate of j10c 4- if j10c is so advanced why not even single country has bout it. 5- not a single jet of chinese have faced any1. 6- pl 15 is just bulky 200kg missile it can only hit slow moving target at 200 km.
J10Cs are powered by WS-10Cs, which saw an improved life cycle of 1500hrs from 800hrs in 2018. With unconditional maintenance support from the chinese, this should more than suffice when PAF faces endian Rafales. 2 - Pakistan pilots in an interview (secondtononePAF) mentioned J10's thrust at 29000 lbs is wayyyyy stronger than existing F16s and more than IAF's twin-engined Su-30MK-I. 3 - Sustained turn rate depends on the overall aerodynamic profile. 4 - J10Cs are *NOT* approved for export to countries without good reasons for Opsec, Pakistan is a given as they're longtime allies. Other aircrafts approved for export includes JF-17 with Pakistani joint ownership and the upcoming 5th gen. twin-engine heavy J-31 (w/ naval variant). 5 - China has sent J10s to face Thailand's JAS-39 swedish Gripens multiple times in joint training exercises Falcon Strike (2015, 2017, 2019) with flying colours. This led to Thai airforce's decision to procure F-35s but US has been reluctant to sell them. 6 - PL-15 is used in air superiority fighters and far outranges US amraams.
This is a no comparison. For every Rafale, Pakistan can buy 2.5 to 3 x J10C . For every new f16, it can buy 2 x J10C. The best value for money among ANY light or medium weight fighter is the J10C. It's even cheaper than the not-yet-ready Tejas 1a samosa and far more capable!
We should never ever go with any US / NATO fighters. What good is an equipment if it comes with heavy conditions regarding its use and sanctions and we are answerable to them before and after its use and they can stop giving parts anytime they want? That's exactly we started JF17s in the first place.
Any Radar that detects a 5m^2 RCS target at 210 km ... will detect a 3m^2 RCS target at 185 km. Not 140 km as you mentioned in the video. Similarly, a 1m^2 RCS target will be detected at 140 km by such a radar. Not 100 km as you mentioned in the video. Target Detection Range = (RT/RS)^¼ X Stated Detection Range Where RT = Target RCS RS = Stated RCS So if RT = 3 and RS = 5 and Stated Range = 210 Then, Target Range = (3/5)^¼ X 210 = 185 Similarly, if RT = 1 and RS = 5 and Stated Range = 210 Then, Target Range = (1/5)^¼ X 210 = 140 Salam.
Cheaper isn't the right word, you should say more affordable. Cheap means bad in quality. Do you think j10c is a bad quality aircraft ? Specswise in comparison, one aircraft could be slightly better or inferior to eachother but they are never a bad aircraft.
No, Investment in human capital will make Pakistan strong. A major element in of the nationpower equation.A paradigm shift in national strategy is a compelling need
Pl 15 E is the export version of PL 15, range of PL 15E is 145 km which is much less than the PL 15, which missile Pakistan bought PL 15 or inferior PL 15E?
we should focus on developing a strategic policy framework that adds value to the entire nation’s stake holders without filing the pockets of one group..Mainly deploy resources to building human capital where we trailing far behind our neighbours. The adverse strategic drift has to be corrected with the fusion of new thinking, innovation, strategic empathy for our neighbours, commercial pacifism, collaboration Instead of discord.. Better to invest in IT and AI and women’s education than war toys that will become obsolete and add to already unsustainable overload - that requires elimination..
WS 10 B has thrust vectoring capability, Yes. They already demonstrated this with Chinese j10c in Chinese Zuhai air show, I don't know the exact date but it happened either in 2018 or 2019. Since China is giving This fighter jet to counter french Rafael so with some educated guess I am pretty sure they've equipped with this feature too.
F16 is a combat experienced & well tested plane while J10C has not seen any combat as yet. In terms of thrust to weight ratio F16 B/52 is ahead by a large margin. Besides, anything that looks impressive on papers is not necessarily good in action too. J10C is not bought by any other foreign country apart from.Pakistan while F16 is being used by minimum 2 dozens countries beside US. I don't think J10C is better than F16/52 except price tag. But its maintenance cost will be much higher due to short life of its engine WS10 & other accessories.
J10 C behter he F16 se. Ye abhi PAF men shamil hwy hen zyda arsa nhi hwa. Hamry piolets ko abhi waqt lgy ga is pe mukamal maharat hasil kerny men . Or rhi batt jang men aircraft ke roll ki to aircraft se zyda piolet ke maharat important hoti he jesy JF17 Thunder ne Russia ke Mig 33 ko gira dya ager dekha jaey in dono aircraft men zameen asman ka ferq he. Wja kya thi piolet ki maharat.
Nope.. ALL J10Cs since last year come with Ws10b engine. China stopped using al31 long ago on all its fighters. Ws10 has been used on j11, j16 for a long time now and since last year for J10C and j20 (ws10c variant) also
@@sabresecuritydefenseconsul1308 idiot.. Since last year all, J10C uses exclusively ws10b. Of course there are still older j110a/b that will take time to replace engine.
Omni role can engage air to air and air to ground targets at the same time .multi role can do this one role at a time either air to air or air to ground .In multi role aircraft u have to change the mode and this take not much but few seconds ,but in aviation seconds matter .so omni role aircraft offer u this capability .
Paf badly need twin engine aircraft and f-18 block 4 is the best fit according to requirements and will turn the table in air superiority domain completely towards pakistan against india
@@savageassassin5976 I wud suggest Su34M may be in small numbers initially as in my opinion it's less in cost than Su35 n PAF doesn't require an Air Superiority Fighter with J10C,F16s n presumably JF 17block3s with PL15 n 10 missiles already in the inventory. Su34Ms shud be seen as a replacement for the aging Mirages that eventually have to be retired in a decade or so. Wat r ur views on this ?!!
Yaar air to air missile thik hai par koun achha hai ye bhi jaruri hai , kis missile ka no escape limit bhi to hota hai ,. Kya yaar majak karne ke liye video banate ho kya ?
Long Live Pakistan ❤️🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
J-10 is not equal to china's J-31, Pakistan should have also bought J-31.
As compared to F16 block 52 there is no doubt J10C is a much better fighter but when you compare with F16 block 70 then may be both are similar in some parameters and in some features J10C will be better and in some F16 block 70 will be better
But J10C as compared to Gripen E is definately much better but as compared to Rafale i will go with Rafale F3 still i think with very high quality of pak air force pilots and the price difference between J10C and Rafale J10C much better option for Pak from now on with J10C and JF17 block 3 pak should get at least 36 units of J20 from china in next 3 yrs
There is no better jet's radar than J10C in the whole South Asia area, there is also no better long range air-to-air missle than PL15E
Masha Allah,,Nice informative video again 👌
J10CP are the new fighting falcon for Pakistan Air Force..!!
No, its the J-10C is the Indus Dragon 🐉😎
Good analysis, info. and presentation.
My few questions:-
Whats about ws 10 (life cycle , mean time between overhaul).
2 - whats about acceleration of j10c
3- whats about sustain turn rate of j10c
4- if j10c is so advanced why not even single country has bout it.
5- not a single jet of chinese have faced any1.
6- pl 15 is just bulky 200kg missile it can only hit slow moving target at 200 km.
J10Cs are powered by WS-10Cs, which saw an improved life cycle of 1500hrs from 800hrs in 2018. With unconditional maintenance support from the chinese, this should more than suffice when PAF faces endian Rafales.
2 - Pakistan pilots in an interview (secondtononePAF) mentioned J10's thrust at 29000 lbs is wayyyyy stronger than existing F16s and more than IAF's twin-engined Su-30MK-I.
3 - Sustained turn rate depends on the overall aerodynamic profile.
4 - J10Cs are *NOT* approved for export to countries without good reasons for Opsec, Pakistan is a given as they're longtime allies. Other aircrafts approved for export includes JF-17 with Pakistani joint ownership and the upcoming 5th gen. twin-engine heavy J-31 (w/ naval variant).
5 - China has sent J10s to face Thailand's JAS-39 swedish Gripens multiple times in joint training exercises Falcon Strike (2015, 2017, 2019) with flying colours. This led to Thai airforce's decision to procure F-35s but US has been reluctant to sell them.
6 - PL-15 is used in air superiority fighters and far outranges US amraams.
@@nearchd504 He's just a jealous endian 🤣
Aah eendian, any sensible discussion is impossible.
This is a no comparison. For every Rafale, Pakistan can buy 2.5 to 3 x J10C . For every new f16, it can buy 2 x J10C. The best value for money among ANY light or medium weight fighter is the J10C. It's even cheaper than the not-yet-ready Tejas 1a samosa and far more capable!
Samosa jab aayega tab aayega
J10C ❤❤
PAF should go with J 10 C, D and some F 16 block 72+
We should never ever go with any US / NATO fighters. What good is an equipment if it comes with heavy conditions regarding its use and sanctions and we are answerable to them before and after its use and they can stop giving parts anytime they want? That's exactly we started JF17s in the first place.
Bilkul same comparison ki video bnahein bhai j10cp or Indian Rafael ki plz
J-10C is the best jet
Any Radar that detects a 5m^2 RCS target at 210 km ... will detect a 3m^2 RCS target at 185 km. Not 140 km as you mentioned in the video. Similarly, a 1m^2 RCS target will be detected at 140 km by such a radar. Not 100 km as you mentioned in the video.
Target Detection Range = (RT/RS)^¼ X Stated Detection Range
Where
RT = Target RCS
RS = Stated RCS
So if RT = 3 and RS = 5 and Stated Range = 210
Then, Target Range = (3/5)^¼ X 210 = 185
Similarly, if RT = 1 and RS = 5 and Stated Range = 210
Then, Target Range = (1/5)^¼ X 210 = 140
Salam.
Knowledge achha hai
Check kab Karna he .... Fantastic tea (Chai) Rakh den?
Very good👍
block 70 sy bhi compare ki jie ga
J10 c is good.and it is cheaper
Cheaper isn't the right word, you should say more affordable. Cheap means bad in quality. Do you think j10c is a bad quality aircraft ? Specswise in comparison, one aircraft could be slightly better or inferior to eachother but they are never a bad aircraft.
Good work
F16 52+ vs JF17 B3
JF17B3 vs J10cp
No, Investment in human capital will make Pakistan strong. A major element in of the nationpower equation.A paradigm shift in national strategy is a compelling need
Make more videos on j10c
J 10c power of Pakistan. Very proved of j10
Bro nice information .. i have question humara iran ka sath relations kesa hain kya woh hume apna UAVs drones de sakta ha in future ..
Humy ni zrort un ky drone ki hamary pass already achi options moujood hai jese turkey and china
Does pakistan j10cp has thrust vectoring PLS ANSWER
And I think that the thrust/weight ratio of j10 is more than 1.10 the mentioned is of al31 engine
No. PAF acquired J-10C with WS-10B engines and they're not equipped with TVC nozzles.
Nope bro khali ek j10c tvc wala tha even china j10cs using regular engine not tvc
Bro plz don't sweat over thrust vectoring it is of limited operational use n is more of Air Show technology demonstrator marketing tool !!
Who knows pl15 is original 250km or export version 145km.
A comparison b/w F16 Blk 70 & J10CP should be considered. Thanks
Pakistan f16 block 52+ use Lockheed Martin advanced sniper pod which is the best in world right now
Which sniper pod will J10 C use???
Sniper pod is used for air to ground mission
Pl 15 E is the export version of PL 15, range of PL 15E is 145 km which is much less than the PL 15, which missile Pakistan bought PL 15 or inferior PL 15E?
we should focus on developing a strategic policy framework that adds value to the entire nation’s stake holders without filing the pockets of one group..Mainly deploy resources to building human capital where we trailing far behind our neighbours. The adverse strategic drift has to be corrected with the fusion of new thinking, innovation, strategic empathy for our neighbours, commercial pacifism, collaboration Instead of discord..
Better to invest in IT and AI and women’s education than war toys that will become obsolete and add to already unsustainable overload - that requires elimination..
sir new news jf 17 block 3
J10 is much better also dual engine version will be more deadly
J 10 c is best
Compare J-10c with F-16 block 70
F 16 block 70 j 10 c se Bahut hi advance Hai
@@sukhdevsingh4796I don't trust you
Price wise konsa pak ko suit zyada krta hy?
Pilots k experience k hisab hay PAF ab bhi f16 say boht Kuch karsakti hay Jo j10 say nahe to abhi k liay f16 ki wahi importance hay Jo pahlay thi
Bhai asi he same video j20 or Rafael ki bnahein blz
Both are different generation aircraft so no need of comparison
Sorry bro j10 khayna tha j20 ka deya
Your brother from Egypt Unfortunately, I did not understand the Pakistani language. Please clarify which of the two planes is stronger
Sir, PakAF k J10 Ka WS-10B engine Kia Thrust Vectoring Engine hae kia? Plz clarify this point?
WS 10 B has thrust vectoring capability, Yes. They already demonstrated this with Chinese j10c in Chinese Zuhai air show, I don't know the exact date but it happened either in 2018 or 2019. Since China is giving This fighter jet to counter french Rafael so with some educated guess I am pretty sure they've equipped with this feature too.
F16 is a combat experienced & well tested plane while J10C has not seen any combat as yet. In terms of thrust to weight ratio F16 B/52 is ahead by a large margin. Besides, anything that looks impressive on papers is not necessarily good in action too. J10C is not bought by any other foreign country apart from.Pakistan while F16 is being used by minimum 2 dozens countries beside US. I don't think J10C is better than F16/52 except price tag. But its maintenance cost will be much higher due to short life of its engine WS10 & other accessories.
HMD konsa he J10 C me ?
F 16 is best and it is battle tested
Pakistan zindbade 🇵🇰
Again spelling dekh
J10 C behter he F16 se. Ye abhi PAF men shamil hwy hen zyda arsa nhi hwa. Hamry piolets ko abhi waqt lgy ga is pe mukamal maharat hasil kerny men .
Or rhi batt jang men aircraft ke roll ki to aircraft se zyda piolet ke maharat important hoti he jesy JF17 Thunder ne Russia ke Mig 33 ko gira dya ager dekha jaey in dono aircraft men zameen asman ka ferq he. Wja kya thi piolet ki maharat.
AAP Manu Jana Manu J 10 C Se F-16 bast hi Rahega Hai Or be Bohot Saari Baaten Hoti Hai in per Faisla nahin kiya ja sakta
F16 k avionics better hai aur engine is much more reliable.
Matlab ki j10c ,f 16 block 52 se todha hi achha hai , to ye Rafel ko kaise takkar dega , pakistan ne j 10 c kis liye kharida hai ab ye batao
Tu apna Dekh NAGPURI KHATMAL
JPAF J-10 are equipped with Russian Salyut AL-31FN NOT WS-10, PAF has placed an initial order of 26 will increase as needed
Nope.. ALL J10Cs since last year come with Ws10b engine. China stopped using al31 long ago on all its fighters. Ws10 has been used on j11, j16 for a long time now and since last year for J10C and j20 (ws10c variant) also
@@n.c9653 Wrong kaka, dead wrong!
@@sabresecuritydefenseconsul1308 update yourself instead of talking like it's 5 years ago.
@@n.c9653 Now this from a fact, you have hearsay not us, here how come there are 25 Russian engineers from UEC Saturn based at Minhas????
@@sabresecuritydefenseconsul1308 idiot.. Since last year all, J10C uses exclusively ws10b. Of course there are still older j110a/b that will take time to replace engine.
اگر یہ گراؤنڈ اور ائیر سپیریئریٹی دونوں رول میں ورک کرتا ہے تو پھر اسے اومنی رول فائٹر کیوں کہا جاتا ہے؟
Omni role can engage air to air and air to ground targets at the same time .multi role can do this one role at a time either air to air or air to ground .In multi role aircraft u have to change the mode and this take not much but few seconds ,but in aviation seconds matter .so omni role aircraft offer u this capability .
Paf badly need twin engine aircraft and f-18 block 4 is the best fit according to requirements and will turn the table in air superiority domain completely towards pakistan against india
Loll bhai america hmy block 52 ky f16s he dy dy bari baat hai and fa 18 is made for carrier operations
Nope, PAF should get the Chinese J-16. Its the best Flanker in the world.
@@muhammadwaleed2673 sadly we can’t get its not for export market russia has the rights of the flanker
@@savageassassin5976 I wud suggest Su34M may be in small numbers initially as in my opinion it's less in cost than Su35 n PAF doesn't require an Air Superiority Fighter with J10C,F16s n presumably JF 17block3s with PL15 n 10 missiles already in the inventory.
Su34Ms shud be seen as a replacement for the aging Mirages that eventually have to be retired in a decade or so. Wat r ur views on this ?!!
Soon j31 / j35 twin engined medium weight stealth fighter
kisi din f16 or j10c ki friendly dog fight ky baray ma btain
J10 is better than f16
Yes Its Propaganda f16 is better
Yaar air to air missile thik hai par koun achha hai ye bhi jaruri hai , kis missile ka no escape limit bhi to hota hai ,. Kya yaar majak karne ke liye video banate ho kya ?
dog fight nowadays it's all about BVR
J10 will kill f16
Why pakistan is still searching for old f16 if j10 that good.
To replace old f7 aircrafts.
pkaistan zindabad 🥰
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can we not upgrade our f16 to aesa radars !
Pakistan has not got any indigenous aesa radar.
@@max2008abhi surely we can buy them from china
@@kortrijk056 western avionics are incompatible with chinese and Russian radars
Totly worst compared 😂😂